#B-SF-17 Bomber

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I got to meet a living legend!!!

Rev. Matthew Fong (right), 102, a WWII United States Army Air Corp veteran with his son Jerome Fong, 65, at home in San Francisco on Thursday, May 23, 2024. Matthew was stationed in England and a Boeing B-17 bomber belly gunner flying 35 missions over Germany. After the war, he went to UC Berkeley and Yale Divinity School receiving a doctorate of ministry in 1956. He became senior minister at Chinese Congregational Church in Chinatown, San Francisco until his retirement in 1987. (Craig Lee/The San Francisco Examiner)

[roguedameron]

Resistance B-SF-17 Bomber // Artist: Thomas Raube / Euderion @ DeviantArt

[stuffedeggplants]

Yet another WWII reference in Star Wars

A “B/SF-17 heavy bomber” with “Fortress” in the name? Looks pretty familiar.

I see you, Star Wars. I see you.

[falldownthemountain]

B/SF-17 heavy bomber

[providence-park]

The MG-100 StarFortress SF-17, also known as the B/SF-17 heavy bomber, was a model of heavy bomber manufactured by Slayn & Korpil for use by the New Republic during the late stages of the Galactic Civil War. Following the Galactic Concordance and New Republic disarmament, the ship was primarily used in civilian applications. Several ships were used by the Resistance during its war with the First Order around 34 ABY, earning it the name Resistance Bomber.

[dalekofchaos]

Total offense. The Evacuation of D’Qar and the destruction of the Dreadnought would’ve gone more smoothly and the vast majority of The Resistance Fleet, including Cobalt Squadron, including Paige Tico would STILL be alive if they just used Y-Wings, A-Wings and B-Wings instead of the useless ass Resistance Bombers we got. But because Rian Johnson wanted Poe to be demonized throughout the film and wanted The Resistance to be in ruins by the end of the movie, we just had to have those useless ships.

The bombers chosen for the Evacuation of D’Qar are a goddamn liability. MG-100 StarFortress SF-17 or The Resistance Heavy Bombers is just bad. It makes no sense. The Resistance has updated X-Wings, so why wouldn’t they have  Y-Wings, B-Wings, and A-Wings? They are more effective and less of a liability.  It only took ONE of those abysmally conceived bombers to destroy the dreadnought, and I’m pretty sure it started blowing up after only one or two bombs. 

Y-Wings would have been way more effective than those new ships, which basically all just flew around until they were shot down one after the other and accomplished nothing. Like, only one of them even achieved what they set out to do… Pitiful. Y-Wings are fighter/bombers, they would have destroyed the Dreadnought with no casualties whatsoever. 

Y-Wings upgraded with new proton bombs would’ve got the job done, but that would’ve been overkill. They are the ships that beat the Malevolence and cut through the Ryloth blockade like butter, after all. 

They pack a punch with proper support, and they can at least outrun the explosives they drop. 

Before anyone tells me the Y-Wings,  are outdated technology hasn’t radically advanced in Star Wars for thousands of years. The Y-Wing is relatively young compared to most other ship designs. The A-Wing is conceptually older, being a derivative of the old Aethersprite Jedi Starfighter that was in use before the Clone Wars, just like how the X-Wing is a derivative of the ARC-170 and Z-95 Headhunter, and the B-Wing was probably inspired by the V-19 Torrent, and everyone knows the Star Destroyers haven’t changed at all for probably thousands of years. There’s no reason why it couldn’t have just been refined and improved upon like every other starship in the universe has been. Hell a fan even came up with a concept for Resistance Y-Wings. Just shows you Fans put more thought into the Resistance than Rian Johnson and Lucasfilm.

If we go with the assumption that they were outdated and ineffective, then there were far better replacements than some slow bombers made of paper. For example, B-Wings, which were supposed to be their replacement in Return of the Jedi and were brand new at the time, and K-Wings, which were a replacement for both of them in Legends, both would’ve been very viable options. A B-Wing was made during the Galactic Civil War for the sole purpose of destroying Imperial capital ships. It was updated before the events of Star Wars: The Force Awakens as it is revealed in the official Star Wars: The Last Jedi visual dictionary that B-wing Mark 2 cockpits were used on the Resistance transports that brought Leia’s camp to Crait. Seeing that they are fairly new and have received upgrades, the B-wings would have been a better choice for the heroes to use in taking on the First Order. 

They also wouldn’t have broken the “small, fast, and maneuverable” tenet of the Rebel/Resistance design philosophy. 

Anyway, the Resistance still didn’t need any specialized bomber. All the Resistance needed to do was replicate what they did to Starkiller Base in the last movie. 

The dreadnought’s “point-defense” turrets aren’t fast enough to target one X-Wing (lol, what a stupid movie), so there’s no reason why a squadron of X-Wings can’t just bombard the weak spot with enough proton torpedoes until the dreadnought gives up. It’d probably just take one or two, as well. Instead, we got a glass cannon sent to destroy another glass cannon, with no trace of escorting ships or other noticeable strategy beyond “FIRE EVERYTHING!!!”     

[revscarecrow]

The MG-100 StarFortress SF-17 also known as the B/SF-17 heavy bomber, or simply as the Resistance Bomber, was a type of heavy bomber manufactured by Slayn & Korpil for use by the New Republic during the late stages of the Galactic Civil War. Following the Galactic Concordance and New Republic disarmament, the ship was primarily used in civilian applications. Several ships were used by the Resistance during its war with the First Order around 34 ABY.

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[ournameisfun]

The MG-100 StarFortress SF-17 also known as the B/SF-17 heavy bomber, or simply as the Resistance Bomber, was a type of heavy bomber manufactured by Slayn & Korpil for use by the New Republic during the late stages of the Galactic Civil War. Following the Galactic Concordance and New Republic disarmament, the ship was primarily used in civilian applications. Several ships were used by the Resistance during its war with the First Order around 34 ABY.

Yes of course, thank you

[particlemilk-unlockable-gender]

And I’m absolutely not against new and different star wars, I’m extremely annoyed by how much the new movies are THE SAME as the originals. TIE Fighters are nostalgic in The Mandalorian and Rogue One but they are Suuuuper boring in the sequels. I wanted New Star Wars, but what I got was like. Largely the same and the stuff that was new was like... weird and not star wars-y, like porgs. Speaking of which! green milk walruses? LOVE THEM. the island keeper guys? LOVE EM. the new super wide star destroyer? Thats alright that’s cool standard bad guy ship stuff “the BIGGEST ONE EVER” Okay i gotcha. 

Big dreadnaught with planet bombardment weapons. hmmm... star destroyers already have that.

And that’s most of what it has for weapons. That seems like. a downgrade from a star destroyer

And it has an obvious weak spot. is it a prototype?

And it is possible for one pilot in one xwing to destroy ALL of its point defense. why is it being fielded???

AND we deploy it on the front of our fleet, in front of the star destroyers that are definitely there to protect it! ?????

and then the SF-17 Starfortress. that’s what the heavy bombers are called that seem to have replaced Y-Wings and B-Wings despite seeming definitively worse? but that name is so annoying to me because

why are you referencing a real life bomber though??? that’s so fucking bizarre??? b-17, sf-17, flying fortress, star fortress,,,? like it’s fine, I get it it’s fine but like??? and it looks like a B17 missing a wing turned sideways too. it’s just a very weird choice that doesn’t feel like star wars. Star wars has always felt like george lucas is telling you about shit that actually REALLY did happen billions of years ago and it like ACTUALLY HAPPENED, and the referencing real life escapes that, but that’s fine it’s whatever. 

I also don’t understand how we could have gotten SO little about how the new republic fell. like, basically nothing, just the new republic getting blasted to dust and now it’s the start of new hope again. I already saw A New Hope!!!!! lots of times! I don’t like disney. I don’t really like JJ either. I don’t really like the sequels either. I like poe and I like kylo and I like kylos interactions with people. I’m not the kind of person who likes villains either, I usually root for the good guys but the resistance is so preposterously written I just asjkld;jascl;kd

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Slayn and Korpil B/SF-17 Bomber by Shoguneagle

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Throw Away That History Book: Star Wars Is Proof Battleships are Truly RIP

The experience of the war emphatically vindicated the Navy’s approach. U.S. naval aviation devastated Japanese shipping, destroying numerous capital ships through torpedo and dive-bombing attacks, while Army Air Force heavy bombers inflicted very little damage in direct attacks against enemy surface ships. Army bombers made their primary contribution through the dropping of mines (which disrupted Axis coastal shipping) and through antisubmarine duties, both of which proved exceptionally effective, but were not generally expected to be decisive in prewar airpower thinking.The first twenty minutes of Star Wars: The Last Jedi might have warmed the heart of Billy Mitchell’s Force ghost. The opening scenes effectively replayed the American interwar debates between advocates of air and naval power, with fighters and bombers attacking huge capital ships. These debates revolved around two big questions that drove procurement and the development of doctrine: how effective are aircraft against capital ships, and what kind of aircraft are most effective?(This first appeared in 2017.)The SceneThe opening moments of The Last Jedi depict a capital-ship-led attack against a Resistance base. Resistance X-Wing fighters manage to destroy the point defenses of the largest First Order capital ship, a Mandator-class dreadnought, enabling a force of B/SF-17 bombers to attack the dreadnought with gravity bombs. Although First Order interceptors manage to destroyer most of the bomber force, one ship gets through, delivering an attack that destroys the warship. The overall impact of the strike is mixed: the First Order loses one of its more powerful ships, but it apparently has other warships on hand. The Resistance loses its bomber fleet, which is the only weapon it has to deter First Order capital ships. On balance, the leaders of the Resistance seem to feel that losing the bomber fleet wasn’t worth it.Recommended: 1.2 Million Casualties: If North Korea Attacked Los Angeles with a Nuclear WeaponRecommended: Uzi: The Israeli Machine Gun That Conquered the WorldRecommended: The M4: The Gun U.S. Army Loves to Go to War WithThe scene stands in some contrast to the last act of Star Wars: Episode IV—A New Hope, where a group of X-Wing fighters and Y-Wing fighter-bombers manage to deliver a precision attack that destroys the Imperial Death Star. Indeed, the fighters in the Battle of Yavin demonstrate greater survivability than the fighter-bombers. Nevertheless, the lessons seem reasonably clear; small craft can destroy capital ships if used in appropriate numbers and at appropriate times.The DebateDuring the interwar period, advocates of air and sea power endlessly debated the effectiveness of air attacks against capital ships. The U.S. Army’s Gen. William “Billy” Mitchell helped kick off the debate by orchestrating a demonstration of the decisive effect of air power in July 1921. U.S. Army Air Service level bombers repeatedly attacked the former German battleship Ostfriesland, recently acquired as war reparations, until the ship sank. Mitchell counted the demonstration as vindication for the power of bombers; critics noted that Ostfriesland was in extremely poor condition, that it had no crew for damage control, that it could not maneuver, and that it had no antiaircraft weapons to deter the attacks. Nevertheless, Mitchell argued emphatically that the advent of bombers had made most surface ships, including aircraft carriers, obsolete.Another debate involved the type of aircraft necessary to defeat ships. Aviators in the U.S. Army, including Mitchell and his acolytes, generally argued that the missions of bombing cities and bombing battleship required essentially the same type of aircraft; heavy bombers capable of delivering precision, high-altitude attacks at long range from their bases. Indeed, the initial tenders for the legendary B-17 Flying Fortress emphasized coastal-defense capability. American naval aviators, by contrast, argued in favor of dive and torpedo bombers: fighter-sized planes that could launch from aircraft carriers, then avoid enemy defenses to deliver attacks against critical points on enemy vessels. These debates inevitably bled into other important debates, most notably the importance of having an independent air force, and the relative value of aircraft carriers and battleships.The experience of the war emphatically vindicated the Navy’s approach. U.S. naval aviation devastated Japanese shipping, destroying numerous capital ships through torpedo and dive-bombing attacks, while Army Air Force heavy bombers inflicted very little damage in direct attacks against enemy surface ships. Army bombers made their primary contribution through the dropping of mines (which disrupted Axis coastal shipping) and through antisubmarine duties, both of which proved exceptionally effective, but were not generally expected to be decisive in prewar airpower thinking.Who Wins?The Last Jedi seems to settle on Billy Mitchell’s side; the bomber gets through and destroys the Dreadnought, even if the cost of victory is dear. To be fair, the Star Wars universe is not entirely consistent or coherent regarding the relationship between small fighter and bomber craft and the capital ships that can launch them, making it difficult to assess the balance between light and heavy fighter-bombers.In the real world, technological progress has made many of these arguments irrelevant. The gap between fighters and bombers has closed, and both can deliver the ordnance necessary to destroy surface ships. Surface vessels themselves, with the possible exception of aircraft carriers, are no longer expected to absorb significant battle damage. And carrier aircraft now pack much the same punch as their land-based brethren.But as George Lucas himself has acknowledged, Star Wars has its heart in World War II (Lucas once suggested that Red Tails, a chronicle of the exploits of the Tuskegee airmen, was the true sequel to Return of the Jedi). It is not surprising that the debates that animated military thinking in World War II, from bombers to fighters to battleships, should also appear in the military milieu that Star Wars is built upon.Robert Farley, a frequent contributor to TNI, is author of The Battleship Book. He serves as a Senior Lecturer at the Patterson School of Diplomacy and International Commerce at the University of Kentucky. His work includes military doctrine, national security, and maritime affairs. He blogs at Lawyers, Guns and Money and Information Dissemination and The Diplomat.Image: YouTube Screenshot.

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The experience of the war emphatically vindicated the Navy’s approach. U.S. naval aviation devastated Japanese shipping, destroying numerous capital ships through torpedo and dive-bombing attacks, while Army Air Force heavy bombers inflicted very little damage in direct attacks against enemy surface ships. Army bombers made their primary contribution through the dropping of mines (which disrupted Axis coastal shipping) and through antisubmarine duties, both of which proved exceptionally effective, but were not generally expected to be decisive in prewar airpower thinking.The first twenty minutes of Star Wars: The Last Jedi might have warmed the heart of Billy Mitchell’s Force ghost. The opening scenes effectively replayed the American interwar debates between advocates of air and naval power, with fighters and bombers attacking huge capital ships. These debates revolved around two big questions that drove procurement and the development of doctrine: how effective are aircraft against capital ships, and what kind of aircraft are most effective?(This first appeared in 2017.)The SceneThe opening moments of The Last Jedi depict a capital-ship-led attack against a Resistance base. Resistance X-Wing fighters manage to destroy the point defenses of the largest First Order capital ship, a Mandator-class dreadnought, enabling a force of B/SF-17 bombers to attack the dreadnought with gravity bombs. Although First Order interceptors manage to destroyer most of the bomber force, one ship gets through, delivering an attack that destroys the warship. The overall impact of the strike is mixed: the First Order loses one of its more powerful ships, but it apparently has other warships on hand. The Resistance loses its bomber fleet, which is the only weapon it has to deter First Order capital ships. On balance, the leaders of the Resistance seem to feel that losing the bomber fleet wasn’t worth it.Recommended: 1.2 Million Casualties: If North Korea Attacked Los Angeles with a Nuclear WeaponRecommended: Uzi: The Israeli Machine Gun That Conquered the WorldRecommended: The M4: The Gun U.S. Army Loves to Go to War WithThe scene stands in some contrast to the last act of Star Wars: Episode IV—A New Hope, where a group of X-Wing fighters and Y-Wing fighter-bombers manage to deliver a precision attack that destroys the Imperial Death Star. Indeed, the fighters in the Battle of Yavin demonstrate greater survivability than the fighter-bombers. Nevertheless, the lessons seem reasonably clear; small craft can destroy capital ships if used in appropriate numbers and at appropriate times.The DebateDuring the interwar period, advocates of air and sea power endlessly debated the effectiveness of air attacks against capital ships. The U.S. Army’s Gen. William “Billy” Mitchell helped kick off the debate by orchestrating a demonstration of the decisive effect of air power in July 1921. U.S. Army Air Service level bombers repeatedly attacked the former German battleship Ostfriesland, recently acquired as war reparations, until the ship sank. Mitchell counted the demonstration as vindication for the power of bombers; critics noted that Ostfriesland was in extremely poor condition, that it had no crew for damage control, that it could not maneuver, and that it had no antiaircraft weapons to deter the attacks. Nevertheless, Mitchell argued emphatically that the advent of bombers had made most surface ships, including aircraft carriers, obsolete.Another debate involved the type of aircraft necessary to defeat ships. Aviators in the U.S. Army, including Mitchell and his acolytes, generally argued that the missions of bombing cities and bombing battleship required essentially the same type of aircraft; heavy bombers capable of delivering precision, high-altitude attacks at long range from their bases. Indeed, the initial tenders for the legendary B-17 Flying Fortress emphasized coastal-defense capability. American naval aviators, by contrast, argued in favor of dive and torpedo bombers: fighter-sized planes that could launch from aircraft carriers, then avoid enemy defenses to deliver attacks against critical points on enemy vessels. These debates inevitably bled into other important debates, most notably the importance of having an independent air force, and the relative value of aircraft carriers and battleships.The experience of the war emphatically vindicated the Navy’s approach. U.S. naval aviation devastated Japanese shipping, destroying numerous capital ships through torpedo and dive-bombing attacks, while Army Air Force heavy bombers inflicted very little damage in direct attacks against enemy surface ships. Army bombers made their primary contribution through the dropping of mines (which disrupted Axis coastal shipping) and through antisubmarine duties, both of which proved exceptionally effective, but were not generally expected to be decisive in prewar airpower thinking.Who Wins?The Last Jedi seems to settle on Billy Mitchell’s side; the bomber gets through and destroys the Dreadnought, even if the cost of victory is dear. To be fair, the Star Wars universe is not entirely consistent or coherent regarding the relationship between small fighter and bomber craft and the capital ships that can launch them, making it difficult to assess the balance between light and heavy fighter-bombers.In the real world, technological progress has made many of these arguments irrelevant. The gap between fighters and bombers has closed, and both can deliver the ordnance necessary to destroy surface ships. Surface vessels themselves, with the possible exception of aircraft carriers, are no longer expected to absorb significant battle damage. And carrier aircraft now pack much the same punch as their land-based brethren.But as George Lucas himself has acknowledged, Star Wars has its heart in World War II (Lucas once suggested that Red Tails, a chronicle of the exploits of the Tuskegee airmen, was the true sequel to Return of the Jedi). It is not surprising that the debates that animated military thinking in World War II, from bombers to fighters to battleships, should also appear in the military milieu that Star Wars is built upon.Robert Farley, a frequent contributor to TNI, is author of The Battleship Book. He serves as a Senior Lecturer at the Patterson School of Diplomacy and International Commerce at the University of Kentucky. His work includes military doctrine, national security, and maritime affairs. He blogs at Lawyers, Guns and Money and Information Dissemination and The Diplomat.Image: YouTube Screenshot.

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One of my local players decided to take on “Video Gamer”, the list that was created as part of the Squad Building Series I wrote. He had read over the articles and decided to take a swing at a counter. So he went a slightly different route to get to his list which is fine. He started with a specific ship Dutch Vander. Though he messed it up slightly, lets take a look and see what happened here.

So this was his list:

B/SF-17 Bomber, Crimson Squadron Pilot – 25

Accuracy Corrector – 3

Targeting Synchronizer – 3

Crossfire Formation – 2

Total: 33

Y-Wing, Dutch Vander – 23

Chopper – 1

Extra Munitions – 2

Bomb Loadout – 0

Twin Laser Turret (TLT) – 6

Guidance Chips – 0

Ion Bombs – 2

Total: 34

T-70, Red Squadron Veteran – 26

R2 Astromech – 1

Pattern Analyzer (PA) – 2

Push the Limit (PTL) – 3

Integrated Astromech – 0

Total: 32

Analysis:

The list is at 99 points. Question is can you find the error(s) in the list itself? Take a few moments to really look at the list an analyze it carefully. You can see what he’s wanting to do by capitalizing on Target Locks and creating a small amount of action efficiency for his squad.

  Here lets point out the flaw(s) in the list I’ll highlight them in Red and some questionable options in Purple:

B/SF-17 Bomber, Crimson Squadron Pilot – 25

Accuracy Corrector – 3

Targeting Synchronizer – 3

Crossfire Formation – 2

Total: 33

Y-Wing, Dutch Vander – 23

Chopper – 1

Extra Munitions – 2

Bomb Loadout – 0

Twin Laser Turret (TLT) – 6

Guidance Chips – 0

Seismic Charge – 2

Total: 34

T-70, Red Squadron Veteran – 26

R2 Astromech – 1

Pattern Analyzer (PA) – 2

Push the Limit (PTL) – 3

Integrated Astromech – 0

Total: 32

My thoughts:

Dutch wants to use his action to target lock, or needs some way to get Target locks without using his action. If Dutch wants to regenerate his shields he has to give up his action to use Chopper. With no other way to get Target Locks Dutch’s skill is wasted here along with all the upgrades.

Take a look at all the questionable stuff. With or without Chopper, is Dutch trying to get in to use those Bombs? Does he need them? No, he has a Twin Laser Turret, he wants nothing to do with getting too close. So spending 4 points where they are not needed is not helping the cause. Lets get those points doing something that will benefit us.

The Bomber, has been turned into a poor mans Command ship. It doesn’t have the ability to use crew to help with action economy, it’s not laying down massive damage or even bombs to control the point of attack. It’s acting like a bit of a blocker roll and saying if you’re shooting at my target you can borrow my lock if you need it. That is a lot of points (33) to spend on a ship not contributing a whole lot.

Then there is the reliance on Accuracy Corrector. Don’t get me wrong consistent damage is not bad. However, without other things to make it meaningful (such as an AutoBlaster Cannon/Turret) it may not do enough and certainly not fast enough to improve things if you get behind the damage race. Taking a proper command ship/or reallocating those points is likely a smarter play.

Other Players Thoughts:

Here is what Magnus Grendel from the Fantasy Flight Gaming forums has to say. “If Dutch is the main guy using both his target lock and the ‘free’ target lock on the bomber, his synergy is great but he’s primarily just helping himself via a second ship, and you’re essentially duplicating the effect of marksmanship (1 full mod on both shots in exchange for your action).

If Dutch gets wasted in the first volley, the bomber still chucks out 2 hits a turn, the X-wing still gets focus and target lock, and the bomber still gets crossfire formation and can focus to protect itself without impacting its damage output.

The accuracy corrector bomber is one I’d like to mess around with myself – I think Targeting Synchroniser is the right choice, because whilst 2 hits is nice, it’s nothing terrifying, so your main job is a nigh-immovable block of hit points passing target locks to your friends. A problem is that if you’re target locking, you’re not focusing, and if you have synchroniser, you don’t have advanced optics – so crossfire formation isn’t actually that useful.

Dutch does overcome this, but as noted, he’s then eating two target locks per turn, and you’re essentially just using him to duplicate an effect that could be achieved with R2-D6 and Predator on a Gray Squadron Pilot generic, without caring if the bomber gets shot down.

The other point of non-synergy is Chopper – Chopper requires an action, and if you’re using your action to regenerate shields with chopper, then Dutch isn’t target locking. Chopper is a great card for someone like Horton, who doesn’t need his action to provide effective fire.”

Revamping without destroying:

So lets rebuild a bit and see what happens. I’ll keep Dutch per the original creator’s idea as the Hero ship. So 23 Points, and a nifty pilot trait: After acquiring a target lock, choose another friendly ship at range 1-2. The chosen ship may immediately acquire a target lock.  Free actions for a friend, always a nice thing to get.

The T-70 X-wing is solid. I might also look at some T-65’s just to be all Rebels. However, I won’t discount the T-70 as a viable option for sure. They are some of the more stout ships the Resistance/Rebels have currently. So another 21-24 points depending on what I need to fill in with.

So currently we have a Bomber and an Escort. Esege Tuketu, could be an option in the K-wing but that’s another 28 points. Lets keep looking a moment and see what we get. From the K-wing to the HWK. This is a truer command ship and both do similar things if I use Kyle Katarn. Kyle also has Access to the Moldy Crow Title. He can hold onto any and all Focus Tokens as long as he doesn’t spend them. Hmm and Kyle is another Turret Carrier. So lets run with this.

Build the Hero:

Dutch ideally wants something that is going to allow him to make use of his target lock with some meaning and perhaps compensate for a very weak dial. He also wants an Astromech that will either make the Y-wing better or at the very least give Dutch a chance for more target Locks. So options could be : Flight-Assist Astromech, R2, R5-K6, Targeting Astromech, and R7-T1. I’m going to go Ion Cannon and R5-K6. The Ion Cannon for some control allowing Dutch to get behind a target and continue to target lock if needed without worry of retaliation. I’ll add vectored thrusters as well to help Dutch deal with Range control if he needs to. The BTL – A4 title is entirely optional.

Dutch Vander –  Y-wing : 23

Ion Cannon Turret – 5

R5-K6 -2

Vectored Thrusters. -2

So a Respectable 32 Points so far. Lets keep going.

Wingman – Please

Kyle Katarn, gets the Moldy Crow for sure. Lets grab a Recon Specialist, which gives me two focus tokens when I take a Focus Action. Another Ion Turret, more so because additional control elements and possibly shutting down a large base ship with 2 Ions if needed. Pulse Rayed Shields. If I’m in need of regenerating my shield. 34 Points though so far, lets hold off on an EPT and see what if anything is left.

Kyle Katarn – HWK-290 – 21

Ion Cannon Turret – 5

Moldy Crow – 3

Recon Specialist – 3

Pulsed Ray Shield – 2

The X-wing. The basic T-65 X-wings would ideally see us grabbing Luke or Wedge or Wes. The issue is building in the action economy they want and need is going to push us over the points. Lets look at T-70’s. The original build isn’t bad honestly. At 32 points I could see us giving Kyle an Elite Pilot Talent that could be interesting. However, some of the other pilots really have built in action economy if we use them correctly. So I’m going to upgrade to Snap Wexley. He Gets a free boost if he does a 2, 3, or 4 speed maneuver, free actions are beautiful! Lets add a Flight Assist Astromech, for a combo of free actions with Boost and barrel Roll if he’s off target. Advanced Optics is also really good for action efficiency and as the other threat he may need to fight on his own.

So here is Snap Wexley so far.

Snap Wexley T-70 X-wing – 28

Advanced Optics

Flight Assist Astromech

Round out the List

So I have 3 points left after all is said and done here. I can do a number of different things now. Integrated Astromech is nice on a T-70, though avoiding damage all together is nicer. Auto-Thrusters here since I have the points is sensible. That leaves me with one point. Plenty of options for 0 and 1 point EPT’s. Giving Kyle trick shot isn’t a bad idea on the Ion Cannon Turret through obstructions. Going to give Snap Adrenaline Rush. being able to Talon Roll or K-turn without the stress. Having an open dial to continue with next round is huge. Additionally it allows his boost to happen and then additionally a Target lock or Focus if his Advanced Optics is empty somehow.

So final List:

  Dutch Vander –  Y-wing : 23

Ion Cannon Turret – 5

R5-K6 -2

Vectored Thrusters. -2

Kyle Katarn – HWK-290 – 21

Ion Cannon Turret – 5

Moldy Crow – 3

Recon Specialist – 3

Pulsed Ray Shield – 2

Trick Shot – 0

Snap Wexley T-70 X-wing – 28

Advanced Optics – 2

Flight Assist Astromech – 1

Auto Thrusters – 2

Adrenaline Rush – 1

Total 100 points.

Dutch and Kyle want to stay within range 1-2 of each other as much as allowable without being overly Predictable. Dutch hands Kyle Target Locks. Kyle hands Dutch Focus tokens so both get double mods. Snap should be pretty self sufficient as a flanker with so much built in action economy. Stress isn’t a big issue as K6 just acquires a new lock if Dutch spends his. Kyle should have a stack of Focus and only spends what he needs as Dutch or Snap shouldn’t be using a ton if they don’t need to as well.

For Movement order, you should be fine as long as Kyle moves before Dutch. Kyle activates at the start of the Combat Phase so Dutch can use his Thrusters if he is a bit too far from Kyle and needs a Focus and to stay near a target.

Other Options:

Dutch can do a FAA with the BTL-A4 title and fights a bit more like an X-wing honestly. With a double Tap from his Cannon and Primary Weapon he has a higher damage ceiling. This also could mean dropping down to Synced Turret with BTL-A4 and pairs nicely with Y-wings in general. You then Free up a point or two for something somewhere else. Perhaps if Kyle also goes with Synced turret for damage out put you can load up a bomb or upgrade Kyle’s EPT.

Targeting Help? or Dutch Needs Help? One of my local players decided to take on “Video Gamer”, the list that was created as part of the Squad Building Series I wrote.

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Anyone else hoping that the new Resistance B/SF-17 Heavy Bomber isn't the new B-wing?