#Asumu Ushiromiya

[mr-foods]

my one and only

[jichanxo]

redraw of an umineko piece from 2019 (original under the cut)

this one was drawn/lined traditionally, then coloured digitally. the redraw is all digital.

[variouspolltournaments]

[evangelifloss]

Not sure if this has been brought up but Kyrie Ushiromiya is a HUGE simp. That girl really looked at one of the most slimy, misogynistic man in the series and went "I'm going to dedicate my life to being his wife" and then she DID after waiting for his first wife to cark it.

Like that is Ultimate Simpery right there

But also, Kyrie what the fuck, you could've chosen literally any other guy and got on with your life

[mettamaxie]

every day i wake up and i’m rudolf nation’s strongest soldier

[ushiromiyacestcentral]

Tried my best to make Piece’s witch outfit resemble Asumu’s outfit from the manga.

[wouldlesbianismsaveher]

Asumu Ushiromiya from Umineko When They Cry

Propaganda under the cut due to spoilers.

Propaganda: Spoilers for Last Note of the Golden Witch

Imagine having a chance to come back from the dead and see your family again and instead of spending time wth your son or husband, you spend your time replacing his new wife and talking up how much better you are than her. Also IMO drowning her in the vortex that is your hair is kinda yonic imagery. But like. Just. go after the woman you actually care about PLEASE.

Additional: i think asumu and kyrie should have played psychosexual mind games with each other forever instead of wasting time with rudolf, who is clearly not the person with the most real estate in their heart

[lizardrosen]

update: this is becoming more of a collection of scenes and character studies from all across his life, but i'm slowly arranging it into a coherent narrative. i just think he's neat, and also a total bastard.

there's still a big gap of time missing in this collection, so i think i want to write something about how he relates to battler and ange in different ways, and how they remind him of their mothers, and then this will be a nicely balanced story.

oops, my rudolf feelings have once more emerged from the depths and i'm writing a fairly long Episode 7 fic :)

[goldenlandfiascos]

some dumb jotted down stuff for Smitten (With a Kitten) ((aka sugar mommy au)), and one young nappi for wmebsd maybe

[nyaagolor]

Got thinking about my last post again and fuck it. Headcanons about what would happen if you gave the Ushiromiyas internet access:

Krauss: Has fallen for no fewer than 11 NFT scams and brags about how he has a blue check on twitter

Natsuhi: In the trenches of tradwife facebook groups and is constantly getting into the most foul discourse you've ever seen

Jessica: Tiktok famous for "grwm in my parent's mansion" videos much to the chagrin of literally everyone else

Eva: Runs an online Gwenyth Paltrow style girlpower mlm that is very explicitly scamming people. Her husband is aware and in full support (of both her feminine entrepreneurial spirit and also scamming people)

Hideyoshi: I don't think he would be all that tech savvy but what I do know is that this man would listen to so many history podcasts and audiobooks it's actually unbelievable

George: Considering his speech in Chapter 6 there is zero doubt in my mind he's a reformed(?) 4chan incel (or so he claims) but he still has questionable opinions about only fans type stuff which he will lecture Shannon about A Lot

Rudolf: Genuinely do not even want to think about the content of this man's hard drive

Kyrie: Hater game absolutely unparalleled, she was playing enough mind games on Asumu that it was debatable whether or not the authorities should have gotten involved

Battler: In a hypothetical world where they had internet access I think he would be able to escape conservatism just long enough to realize he's bisexual so when Ronove shows up for the first time you can hear the muffled grindr notification from Battler's pocket

Rosa: She would be on tinder for at least half the plot

Maria: Maria get iPad. She doesn't watch cocomelon though it's just those like 2009 videos about satanic conspiracy theories and hexing your relatives that you find on the depths of youtube

Bonus!

Erika: Redditor

[dysfunctional-family-fight]

Semifinals

The Asanos (Assassination Classroom) VS the Ushiromiya family (Umineko When They Cry)

The Asanos

Members: Gakuhou Asano (father) and Gakushuu Asano (son)

Propaganda:

CW: physical abuse

"Crazy dad whose misguided goal is just to make his son strong (but whose definition of real strength leaves much to be desired), and son who does see the error in his dad's ways but is brainwashed enough to imagine that his "filial duty" under the circumstances is to "take control". No one knows for sure if a mom exists, but she clearly doesn't want to have much to do with these lunatics." "The dad doesn't even consider his son family, just a "student" as he is a principal. Utterly unhumane conditions is where he trains his son in. And worst of all, they compete on who will control the other, leash included. The first time the son even considers calling him father is when he literally abuses him physically."

The Ushiromiya family

Members: Kinzo, Krauss, Eva, Rudolf, Rosa, Jessica, George, Battler, Ange, Maria, Natsuhi, Hideyoshi, Asumu, Kyrie

Propaganda:

"PEAK weird family drama. Fighting over the inheritance leads to multiple people dying in gruesome ways" "The whole plot of the game is that they all are so dysfunctional it would make sense for any of them to commit murder" "This family is dysfunctional and abusive on every levels. The parents are fighting for the inheritance, because the elder embezzled money. The grandfather, Kinzo, hides in his room and never shows up. Not unusual, he neglected his family his whole life. Seems that he preferred a mysterious mistress than his family. When he talked to his children, it was to scold them for being incompetents. The atmosphere is oppressive. The children of Kinzo were bully. Krauss bullied Eva, who bullied Rosa. Concerning the next generation: Battler is in conflict with his father because he cheated on his mother. Natsuhi is putting pressure on Jessica for her to become the heir of the family, and is losing contact with her daughter. Eva has deciced what the life of Georges is becoming, and that he will not marry a servant. As for the relationship between Rosa and Maria, this is just the best mother-daughter love-hate relationship ever. And everything ends in blood, for ever and ever." More propaganda here

[batbeato]

My partner keeps telling me to go on Tumblr whenever I launch one of my 20-10000 minute ramble-rants about Umineko at them so here I am AGAIN

Something that a lot of people love about Umineko (and I do too!) is how much Umineko centers its female characters: Umineko focuses a lot on the rich inner lives and emotions of these women, all of whom have been negatively impacted by ideals of submissive feminism and the needs of the patriarchy.

In general, in Umineko, there's this phenomenon that I don't often see elsewhere, where male characters' emotions and feelings are treated as less important, less interesting, etc. than female characters' are. This is interesting to me, and I think it makes sense - in many spaces and works, female characters are treated as caricatures - they are tragic dead mothers, loving wives, sexy girlbosses who secretly have a soft spot for the protagonist, etc. It's only par for the course that in a work where female characters are so celebrated and explored, it is male characters who suffer the fate of being reduced to more base qualities and have their feelings and emotions brushed off or waved over.

Umineko takes the concept of the absent dead wife, mother, lover and turns them into these complex, unknown ghosts who haunt the story: Kinzo's wife, Bice, Kuwatrice, Asumu. These are all female characters central to various plot points and aspects of the story, including thematic ones, but these women are very rarely, if at all, given space to truly express their inner thoughts. This is in contrast to the Ushiromiya women (Eva, Kyrie, Rosa, Natsuhi) who are so often able to express their innermost thoughts in these long, emotional sequences. Umineko doesn't allow space for these women to be caricatures, but instead seems to make space for them to be characters we simply don't have enough information on.

I think Asumu is the best example of this: she is a character with very little actual voice in the main story. Rudolf theorizes that she knew about Battler's true parentage and raised him with love regardless, but also worries that her death was due to his lies and infidelity. Her cause of death is never revealed. Kyrie talks about Asumu as a smart woman who played dumb and innocent to steal Rudolf from her, and there is the distinct concept that if Asumu hadn't died of Cause X, Kyrie would have killed her soon after. Battler sees Asumu as an uncomplicated, loving mother. And then, when Ryukishi released Last Note, we saw this different side of Asumu - an arrogant, jealous woman who took pride in her skill at puzzles and believed that she could have saved everyone, but also still a loving mother who loves her son, and even accepts her son's half-sister, Ange, in the end. Never a caricature, always cast in shadow, but with depths beneath.

But back to what I mentioned before - male characters being treated as those flanderized, flatter caricatures, with their feelings brushed off. It's very interesting to me, because it's not even just a case of male characters simply not having the screentime - they do. Battler and Kinzo get the most of it, but George also receives plenty of discussion as well.

Battler and George, however, are the male characters who I see the most flanderization of. Battler is a pathetic crying malewife twink bottom. George is a child predator who grooms Shannon.

George is a man who was raised by a hovering, overprotective mother with ridiculous expectations of him. She made him study every day and tried to instill values befitting of the power and status she hoped he would someday have into him. However, he saw how Battler, who was meant to be 'inferior' to him, getting along better with girls - even the one he liked - and grew jealous. His relationship with Shannon began because of this, but it also helped him to understand his own flaws, and he tried to change himself. Coming from a place of privilege, this is a difficult task. He also truly loved Shannon, even though he sometimes had a patronizing view of her due to his own instilled biases, and was even willing to go against his family for her. He isn't a perfect person, but he was attempting to change and grow.

Battler is a man with a deep empathy for others and is overly emotional at times - a trait I think is unfairly made fun of, given how men showing emotion is often portrayed as unmasculine, feminine, and shameful. He has a strong sense of right and wrong, and though clumsy and foolish at times, does his best to help others. He was raised by his grandparents for 6 years, so he is somewhat divorced from the privilege he now once again holds as a member of the Ushiromiya family, and makes mistakes because of that. He makes a lot of sexual jokes, but it's implied that this is due to being socially awkward after reuniting with the family he hasn't seen in six years. It's very difficult for him to truly despise someone, but once his trust is broken, even if he still loves them, it can be very hard to earn that trust back.

...I don't think the fandom needs to focus more on the male characters, per say. No one should be told they need to focus more on X than Y because enjoying X is more ethical, progressive, fair, etc. etc. But I would like to see people at least acknowledging the complexity of the male characters in Umineko more. The malewife Battler jokes are funny, I admit, but I'm tired of the child predator George jokes. Can we please leave people who ship Shannon and George alone? At this point, I'm beginning to worry about if they're alright... seeing a lot of hate for something they love can't be pleasant.

It's a general trend I see - liking a male character means you need to prioritize female characters more. Liking a het ship means you need to make it gay, or appreciate gay ships more. If a bisexual character dates someone of the opposite sex, this is bi erasure or erasing queer representation. But it's alright to like male characters, het ships, bisexual characters in het relationships, and so on. What isn't alright are the biases that are keeping queer media from receiving as much publicity, as much funding. What isn't alright are the biases that give male characters much more complex writing than female characters in many pieces of media. We as consumers can examine these things in the production and text of the works we enjoy, but I think there is too much focus on this ethical consumption of media.

...And that's how we end up making child predator George jokes - to reconcile the existence of a flawed, nuanced male character (who can and should be criticized of course) with the fact that Umineko is such a woman-central media. Umineko needs to be one of the 'good ones', the 'ethical ones'. So the male characters must be reduced to jokes, to one-liners. It is an overcorrection on a fandom level to reconcile with a society level issue, one that can harm fans of those characters and introduce toxicity to a place that should be about sharing love for a small universe we all enjoy.

(Whoops. This is why my partner told me to go on tumblr, huh?)

[queenoffishingandcookies]

I’m kind of curious as to when Kinzo’s wife passed away.

So (based on information from Legend, which I think is the most often she’s mentioned? Don’t own the visual novel myself so I depend on LPArchives and YouTube) -

Timeline-wise:

- When Battler looks at Beatrice’s portrait in Legend, he mentions (that at a glance) he almost thought it was his late grandmother, before getting a better look at her foreign features.

- Battler left the Ushiromiya Family somepoint between the family conference in October 1979 possibly(?), and whenever Asumu died in 1980, prior to the next conference.

- It’s stated he hasn’t seen the rest of his cousins or aunts or uncles since then, so it’s not likely that she died in the six/seven years that have passed.

- If his grandmother had died in the previous six/seven years, there’s no doubt he would have been expected to go to the funeral. Where the rest of the family would also be, if only for appearances sake.

- So, we can (reasonably?) assume at that she died before 1979/1980, before Battler left.

- We can also assume she died some point after 1973/1974. My reason for thinking this is that both Jessica and Battler have memories of their grandmother.

- I believe Jessica mentions her grandmother at some point in Legend, during the Besieged chapter.

- She mentions that her grandmother was always thinking Kinzo was cheating, and she (Jessica) assumed it was the imaginary witch.

- which I read as Jessica having actually met her grandmother, because I can’t see Natsuhi discussing the matter of infidelity, considering her extreme consideration in upholding family pride, with her.

(Can also be read as Jessica overhearing the matter long after she passed though, so arguably less grounding information to make an inference on).

- generally, younger kids below the age of five or six don’t really remember deceased relatives at all. So, for Batter and Jessica to remember their grandmother, they’d have to be a little older than that.

- both Battler and Jessica were born 1968, and would have been six/turned seven by 1975, which I think is a reasonably age at the youngest to remember someone?

- One fine Example of a young child remembering, however faintly, her deceased loved ones: Ange.

- so the range of time Kinzo’s wife could have died extends from 1975 to (early) 1979, or at the very least several months before the 1979 conference.

- Meaning Jessica and Battler would be anywhere from six at the earliest to eleven at the latest as their birthdays fall in the mid-later part of the year.

I wish we had more information on their grandmother.

[timeskip]

What the fuck is wrong with you (positive???? It's certainly entertaining, but holy fuck is seeing all women as competition for men a flawed worldview) LMAOO

What I don't understand is why she keeps saying 18 years this, 18 years that. Asumu died 6 years prior, so Rudolph and Asumu's marriage should've only lasted 12 years...?

Also, "miracle" and "master" make me think of Beatrice. HM. INTERESTING. Is Beatrice connected to think the same way she's connected to the baby's death Natsuhi wished for??? Or is Kyrie coming up with her own POV that just happens to match as a red herring... I'd be shocked if it was a red herring actually. Lol.

Also the George part of this fight was REALLY good. I don't have much to say about it but the way he faced off against Eva and found his own path, revealing that even tho he sees her as a good mother who wanted the best for him, she was also smothering him because she was putting her expectations onto him. Really really good. I love Eva sm she's so fucked up. All the Ushiromiya adult women are <3

[ushiromiyacestcentral]

Now I want to see Asumu Ushiromiya & Asahi Ushiromiya ( Rosa’s husband & Maria’s father) the neglected and often overlooked ushiromiya family members, I imagine them sitting together talking about the people they love ( Rudolf & Battler for Asumu & Rosa & Maria for Asahi)