#Artificial Insemination in Cattle
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umangharyana · 1 month ago
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दोगुना दूध देंगी गाय और भैंस, नई नस्लें तैयार कर रहे वैज्ञानिक
Milk Production: आने वाले समय में भारतीय किसान और डेयरी उद्योग को बड़ी खुशखबरी मिलने वाली है। केंद्रीय गोवंश अनुसंधान संस्थान (Central Institute for Research on Cattle) के वैज्ञानिकों ने गाय और भैंस की ऐसी नस्लें तैयार करने की दिशा में काम शुरू कर दिया है, जो मौजूदा नस्लों की तुलना में दोगुना अधिक दूध (Milk) उत्पादन कर सकेंगी। यह जानकारी संस्थान के निदेशक डॉ. एके मोहंती ने एनिमल फिजियोलॉजिस्ट ऑफ…
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townpostin · 6 months ago
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Cattle Breeding Breakthrough in East Singhbhum
Sex-Sorted Semen Technique Yields 85% Female Calves East Singhbhum’s Animal Husbandry Department reports remarkable success in its breed improvement program, boosting dairy prospects for local farmers. JAMSHEDPUR – The Animal Husbandry Department’s innovative breed improvement initiative using sex-sorted semen has resulted in over 85% female calf births in East Singhbhum. East Singhbhum’s dairy…
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hoofpeet · 8 months ago
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Lady and her calf, Derby, circa 1998 🐄
Went down a rabbithole reading about Enderby Island cattle earlier so..... This is currently the rarest breed in the world flat out- with only ~27 existing as of 2019 (Supposedly, since it's a little hard to find any info on these guys)
Enderby island cattle existed in the mid 90's as an isolated herd living on Enderby island, off the coast of NZ. They were culled down from a herd of about 50 (to conserve native flora) until Lady was the only one left from the original herd-- after which she was transported to mainland New Zealand and artificially inseminated to produce Derby.
After this a handful of enderby cattle were cloned to bring the population up to ~27, with ongoing conservation efforts. The most recent reference I can find to an extant population is from an NZ Journal of Ecology article published in 2022 so. Make of that what you will 👍
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bovineblogger · 10 months ago
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thank u for saying the cows don't put the same value on reproduction as humans!!!! I'm a survivor and my vegan friends always compare breeding of cattle to SA and it's like uhhhhhhhhhhhhh i don't quite think that's whats happening
ur welcome !!!<33 im happy i could help you feel a little relief
but yea its super super tempting to project human psychology onto the animals around us but the fact of the matter is we have very different brains!
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cows and other livestock dont ascribe meaning to reproduction like we do, they are hard wired to want to reproduce when theyre on heat and thats it! theyll stand still for artificial insemination, and then its done and theyre fine!
i completely understand worrying about this stuff, especially if you dont really know heaps about farming and things like that, but i pinky promise its safe and easy for the cattle! cows in the wild will have about a calf per year, and cows in captivity do the same. no one is forcing them to do anything, and again, it is not stressful to the cow! everyone is ok <3
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handbellanon · 11 months ago
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And in conservation cases like whales, it also drastically increases the gene pool available to prevent genetic bottlenecks that could cause population collapse later
Glad you’re back!
I am not too familiar with cetacean reproduction, why did Seaworld use AI for their orcas? I am pretty sure that captive orcas would breed the “old fashioned way”, I understand zoos use AI when the animals are having fertility issues, cannot be introduced, etc.
Hey! You’re correct that orcas are more than happy to breed naturally. In fact, most of SeaWorld orcas were indeed conceived through what we in the animal husbandry world call “live cover” (aka, good old-fashioned copulation). 
While it has many uses, in SeaWorld’s case, artificial insemination was mainly used to reduce the need to transport animals for breeding purposes. Back in the old days, if you wanted to breed a male in Florida to a female in California,  you would have to ship one of them to the other, with all the expense, logistics, and stress that involves. With AI, only the semen needs to be shipped. While AI has its own challenges (you have to monitor the female’s follicular development and progesterone levels very closely to ensure she is inseminated at the correct time to achieve conception, appropriately prepare the semen for shipment, and train both animals for the procedures), it allowed animals at different parks to be bred without all the stress and social ramifications of a move.
In short, if the animals already live together and are both fertile, it’s much easier to let them breed via live cover. But if they’re several states away, AI was the way to go.
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mindblowingscience · 1 year ago
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When Canadian dairy farmer Ben Loewith's calves are born next spring, they will be among the first in the world to be bred with a specific environmental goal: burping less methane. In June, Loewith, a third-generation farmer in Lynden, Ont., started artificially inseminating 107 cows and heifers with the first-to-market bull semen with a low-methane genetic trait. "Selectively breeding for lower emissions, as long as we're not sacrificing other traits, seems like an easy win," Loewith said. The arrival of commercially available genetics to produce dairy cattle that emit less methane could help reduce one of the biggest sources of the potent greenhouse gas, scientists and cattle industry experts say.
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theprissythumbelina · 11 months ago
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So you want to write about horses.
(Part 3! Enjoy this post? Want to know more? Check out So You Want To Write About Horses Part 1 and So You Want To Write About Horses: Medieval Edition)
Maybe your character is a jockey, or a rancher, or a stablehand, or the ever popular cowboy in the wild west. Maybe they have a whole team and an Olympic dream. But what do people even do with horses? I can help.
First, some vital terms
The equipment that a horse wears is referred to as Tack. Tack can be minimal or incredibly complex. The part that goes on the horse's head when riding is the bridle, and the part that goes on the back for the person to sit on is the saddle.
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^ Got that? Good, there will be a test at the end.
Now, What do people even do with horses?
To know the jobs around horses, you should know that the equestrian world is divided into very distinct and separate realms, and the further you delve into these realms, the more specific and specialized the horses, equipment, and terms become. Broadly, there is "pleasure" horses and "working" horses. Working horses are relied upon for physical labor to support their humans. Pleasure horses fall into more of a hobby for their humans.
There is also the Western riding style and the English riding style. The Western style descends from the Spanish saddle, and is used throughout the world, but most commonly in the Americas, where it is closely tied to herding cattle. The English style is a bit harder to clearly pin down the original influences, but has history in military uses throughout the European continent, and currently exists internationally. The English style is the style used at the Olympic games and in jumping competitions, whereas Western is not.
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^ this is an example of a Western Style working horse. Western describes the style of equipment as well as the riding style. This horse is dressed for herding cattle, with a large comfortable saddle and simple rope bridle.
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^ This is also a working horse, this time in the English riding style. Notice the saddle is much smaller, without a large 'horn' at the front of the saddle, and the bridle on the horse's head is much more complex. This horse is a Police horse.
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^ and there are many combinations, variations, or lack ofs that exist. Some people have trained their horses to not need any tack, and need only the tiniest movements of their rider's body. Don't ask me how, I am not one of them.
Finally, Professions involving horses.
For ease of understanding, I will break this into segments that involve all horses, English horses, Western horses, and then the even more specific horses like racehorses, ect.
This edition will deal with professions involving All Horses.
Equine Veterinarians
Veterinarians that work with horses in rural areas are usually more generally large animal veterinarians, while equine vets, often attached to an equine hospital or clinic, have specific and in-depth knowledge of equine medicine, rather than equine and bovine medicine. Both large animal vets and equine vets administer vaccines, diagnostic tests, and certificates of health, as well as diagnosing and prescribing treatments of injuries and sicknesses. Vets also aid in breeding horses, caring for pregnant mares, birthing foals, and handling semen collection or injection for artificial insemination.
One of the most common reasons for a vet call is for the treatment of colic, any horse owner's nightmare. Horses have a massive system of intestines, and any change to a horse's diet, stress, or exercise, as well as many other causes, can lead to a backup of food or feces in the digestive system. Minor cases can resolve with pain treatment, but in severe cases surgery is required, and horses can die very quickly from what is essentially an extremely dangerous stomach ache. It is one of the most common causes of death for horses.
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^ In very severe cases, parts of the intestine tie themselves into knots, lose blood flow, and die within the horse. I know many horses that have died from colic, and some that have survived.
Farriers
Farriers are pedicure specialists for horses. The hoof of a horse is simply a very large and thick fingernail, and a farrier is an expert in trimming, shaping, and even repairing that massive fingernail, as well as tacking on metal shoes to the bottom of a horse's foot. Farriers are also sometimes blacksmiths, and will create their own shoes, while others use premade shoes and nails.
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^ (1)A farrier tacking on a shoe to a horse's hoof. (2) Shaping hooves with a rasp. Farrier treatments cause no pain to the horse when done correctly, and the specialized knowledge of which is why many farriers are expensive. Horses will need this redone every 4-8 weeks, depending on the horse and the environment. Even more than the vet, a good farrier is vital to the health and use of a horse, while a bad farrier can ruin a horse in less than the swing of a hammer.
(Side note: This is not a shoe, and no person putting that on a horse should be considered a farrier. I don't take many strong stances in informational posts, but this is one.)
Saddlers
These expert leather workers fit and shape the tack to the shape of the horse and the shape of the rider. Many serious riders have custom fitted tack, where a base saddle or bridle has been reworked after purchase to perfectly fit the riding pair in question. (I have one, it was expensive, and it continues to be worth it). Historically, tack has always been made with leather, which allows for stretch and molding of the tack, as well as decades of longevity, and still today, only the cheapest of tack is made with plastics. Saddlers often specialize in English or Western style tack, and many old brands are still known today for certain fits.
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^ An expert Colorado saddler at work.
Trainers
Horses do not naturally trust humans, even after thousands of years of domestication, nor do they automatically know how to be ridden. Trainers are experts not only in their discipline, but also experts in horse behavior, communication (with humans and horses), basic first aid, common sense, and the rarest of all, the elusive 'horse sense'. Horse sense give a trainer the understanding of a horse's personality, and allows them to form a bond that not only teaches the horse to trust them, but to trust all humans. A trainer's job is to discover the horse's potential abilities, as well as the horse's fears, dislikes, and any pain or mis-training that could impede a horse's progress. Across the world, there are many style of training, many jobs that horses must be taught to preform, and a lot of misunderstandings. A good trainer can save the lives of horses and humans alike, a bad trainer can ruin both. The first steps of training a horse can be referred to as 'starting', 'breaking', 'training', 'backing', and many more.
Grooms
Grooms are the beauty professionals of the horse world, as well as the people getting everything done behind the scenes at high level barns or shows. In some places, grooms bring the horse in from the field or stall to be brushed, put the tack on the horse, warm the horse up, and then hand the horse over to the rider. In other places, grooms are a luxury as much as a butler for your horse. Grooms may also be responsible for managing the stables and tacking areas, keeping those areas clean through sweeping or removing mess, and potentially feeding, moving horses from pasture to stable, or whatever else needs to be done at a large stable. In other situations, the more grunt work will fall to part-time stablehands, while the grooms focus on working with the horses and riders.
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^ Racehorse Groom Stephanie Searle grooms a racehorse.
Floaters/Equine Dentists
Horses are unique animals, with unique digestive systems, as has already been discussed, and with unique teeth. Due to horses' diets involving primarily hays, grasses, or grains, the teeth of a horse receive a great deal of wear from the tough nature of these foods. The wear patterns are so well documented that they have for thousands of years been used to tell the age of a horse with a great deal of accuracy.
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Floaters are equine teeth experts, and receive their name from the practice of 'floating', or grinding sharp areas of horses' teeth down to prevent these sharp points from slicing into the horse's cheeks or stopping a horse from properly chewing.
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^ Floating a horse's teeth. Also not painful, but like many people, horses tend to prefer being sedated for the dentist.
Professional Transport
In the modern age, as well as to a certain extent, the past, horses are constantly being moved, shown, sold, and shipped. Professional horse transport exists in the form of semi-trucks, ships, and planes, as well as trains. The transport of horses, usually very expensive and valuable horses, requires a team of professionals including veterinarians to ensure the horses' safety in transition.
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^ Horses ready to go on a plane. Personally, a terrifying sight.
Alternative Treatments
Just like human medicine, horse medicine has a proliferation of supplements, alternative treatments, folk magic, and home treatments. Professional equine nutritionists work with feed companies as well as feed supplement companies (think herbal food additives as well as fish oil, ect.) to create supplement brands that claim to calm or energize horses, ease pain, prevent colic, or treat any number of issues. Horses may receive any number of visits from such varied services as equine massage therapists, equine physical therapists, equine chiropractors, equine spirit mediums, animal communicators, and so on. The scientific basis for these professionals ranges from well supported to lacking support, but such services remain popular regardless.
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^ No matter what the profession with horses ends up being, just about everyone starts here: mucking out the stalls.
This post will end here, but keep an eye for the extended cut with the English and Western specific professions!
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bonefall · 2 years ago
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Hypothetically, what would warriors think of Bulls? Would they be included in 'kleka'?
Cattle are BIZARRE to Clan cats, and they didn't have a word for them until very recently. The Sundrown Patrol was so confused, they didn't know whether to call them Kleka (deer) or Wragyr (Boar)
They aren't fast, which is the defining trait of deer. Even the largest stag is a leggy creature. They also don't run; they're curious, like a boar is. They also have huge noses, and keep their snouts to the ground... and a tufted tail, like a boar.
And they have tusks where their antlers should be, if they have them at all. A sheep-kleka has a shell antler, a strange, curled thing... but these beasts have curved, ivory things, very clearly tusks to Clan cats. They're even tiny, like teeth outside of a mouth. What IS this thing?
They would start to call them Muoo, over time.
But that brings us to Bulls, specifically, and this is going to be odd. Most of the cattle in this region are Frisians/Holsteins, a dairy breed, and bulls are very rare to just encounter. Many farmers don't even keep a bull (because they're so dangerous), using artificial insemination or bringing one in when the cows need to be bred.
So Clan cats probably wouldn't come up with a word, or caution, for bull cattle. They would just suddenly notice a freakishly large Muoo, and if they had to deal with him, probably come up with a name for that individual bull specifically.
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chocobochaserstories · 16 days ago
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Darker Omegaverse Themes: Breeding Facilities
A darker and more perverse look into an idea within the omegaverse I wanted to explore and world build on. I heavily based this on my own livestock experience, especially dairy cattle.
TW: Dehumanization, forced breeding, sexual/breeding slavery, lack of free will in the omega/alphas, omega/alpha trafficking, and just… be warned and wary if you’re more sensitive.
True omegas don’t exist in the “wild” society anymore. They’re kept in breeding facilities and raised for product.
The ratio of born pups is roughly 25% Alpha and Omega to 75% Beta. That’s 12.5% of each. 
As pups don’t present until 11-12, they’re kept in a nursery until then. Here, they receive care and basic education, but the level varies by secondary gender. 
Betas and Alphas are educated longer, with Betas being educated with the intention of going into higher education or working the “farm” when they come of age. 
Alphas and Omegas are kept as breeding stock. An omega will have their first breeding season around 18, and are expected to bear one litter per year. 
The first breeding occurs the year an omega is to turn eighteen in January, and their dry season (non productive) is from October to December. During this time, they are allowed to recover to be bred again the following January.
Pups are taken after about twenty four hours, to allow the pups to nurse on their mother’s colostrum (first milk that contains important antibodies that are specific to the mother).
Adult omegas produce milk and pups predominantly, however some facilities also sell omega slick as a “miracle elixir”. This is why pups are taken after the first twenty four hours. 
Pups are reared in the nursery by betas, though some facilities use a dry omega or two. Dry omegas are omegas who are older and no longer producing.
Omegas are generally kept in solo stalls, but are turned out regularly to be with other omegas as they are social in nature and cluster. In the summer and spring, they’re allowed grass, and the winter and autumn they’re kept inside and out of the snow to avoid illness.
Omegas are identified primarily by ear tag or tattoos. Some facilities mark them by ear notches, however this is not a universal system and can cause confusion if an omega is sold.
Omegas are periodically evaluated and those who are not producing adequately (poor quality pups, multiple repeated stillbirths, multiple preterm labors, birth complications due to structurally concerns [ie narrow pelvis, prolapsed uterus, etc]) may be culled from the herd. They may be euthanized, or to save profits, many farms will sell them.
Omega auctions generally consist of dry omegas, low/poor producers, and recently presented pups. Dry omegas are generally sold as servants, nursemaids, or nannies. Young alphas are sold at these auctions as studs.
Alphas are kept separate from the omegas for most of the year, and are not kept as long as omegas. Omegas are kept their entire breeding life while alphas rotate between farms to allow breeding back of the pups. Occasionally, if a sire is very good, the alpha may be kept.
Not all omegas are auctioned. Some, especially if they have good bloodlines, will be kept as future dams on the farm.
Betas that stay on the farm are farmhands, reproductive technicians, or otherwise assist on site.
Many facilities now use artificial insemination as opposed to live cover due to liability and efficiency. It’s faster and poses less risk of injury or STD. In addition, it allows for samples to be inspected to choose the best parents for each litter and to catch any mutations or undesirable traits before breeding.
Some farms only keep one or two alphas on site just to calm omegas down the old fashioned way, but they’re generally sterilized to prevent unwanted litters. However, with the availability of alpha hormones on the market, this practice is rarer.
An average omega litter is roughly 2-3 pups, and omegas are given fertility injections starting AT presentation to increase conception rates and litter sizes. 
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fullscoreshenanigans · 2 years ago
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Norman ratri fuckery or maybe Norman in lambda scenario if im understanding this right!
For an AU with greater canon divergence, I like tinkering with the idea of Peter being more hands on in interacting with Norman to better contrast with Emma and Ray getting Lucas and Yuugo for father figures.
22194 has been a child of interest since he scored a perfect 300 on his first test at age four. Potentially even earlier than that, if, like Ray, the demons kept track of his pedigree and his mother was also a full scorer. Regardless of exactly when it started, he continues to capture the attention of researchers and the demon nobility alike, so by the time Legravalima gives approval for him to be sent to Lambda so she can avoid handing him over to the demon god, Peter was already aware of his general existence.
He's thrown for a loop when he meets him in person though. The only potential photographs he would have of Norman would be from when he was an infant at headquarters. His incredibly light/white hair on its own wouldn't have been enough to give him much pause, but now that his features have had more time to develop, Peter's a bit startled at the Ratri ones he can pick out.
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(@bon-nii's comparison of James and Norman from chapters 173, 152, 126, and 154)
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(Chapter 74)
There's a bit of vanity in him saying he's too young to be Norman's father (never mind he was eighteen when Norman was born), but combined with the boy's looks, the phrase sits at the back of his mind, nudging him until he can't ignore his curiosity any longer. He looks into the genealogy records at Grace Field headquarters until he can't find any recording of a sperm donor, which isn't more than a few generations back. Odd, given that Grace Field is the top premium farm, but sometimes such documentation snuck through the cracks, and it wasn't unheard of for the occasional scientist to consort with the Sister candidates prior to the refinement of artificial insemination.
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It's one of Norman's blood samples that confirms someone from the family—either from the main one or the branch Andrew's from—fathered a daughter with a Sister, and that daughter went on to have a daughter who then bore a son.
Pulling this bit from an earlier post:
…I still have trouble wrapping my head around the idea of Peter knowingly and willingly [putting a Ratri child in the farm system] on the basis of viewing them as an extension of the clan rather than as individuals, so it’s almost like it’s a worse reflection on him not being able to restore the honor of this wayward branch of it by “salvaging” the traitor’s children and raising them “correctly.” He places such great value in being a Ratri and displays such disdain when speaking of the cattle children as food, it’s hard to see him sullying the line in any way by condemning a member to the fate of the latter as opposed to just outright killing them, even if said member was an infant. That’s still Ratri blood—his blood—that would be going into the farm system, and he would never let anyone as lowly as food have any sort of claim to such a noble and prestigious status. […] However, I’m more inclined to entertain the idea of another family member taking advantage of their position as a Ratri to have a dalliance with a Sister candidate, as @officersnickers brings up in this post. It’s not something Peter would ever approve of, but what’s done is done, and importantly there was no explicit denouncement of the clan in this act, which I feel he would take personal offense to. There’s nothing he can do to save these children—the one-drop rule thoroughly entrenched in his mind, and their blood is thoroughly tainted—but maybe their Ratri lineage will win out and they’ll be able to rise above their pitiful status, so he does keep tabs on both as he approves of them being sent on their separate ways in the system.
This is where one has to make the concession that Peter cares more about having an heir and/or believing a child's Ratri heritage trumps their fate of being born into the farm system. Shirai never confirms if he has a partner, but regardless, no mention is made of biological children of his own or if he knows of any potential ones on the way.
And maybe that's getting to him as the thirty-sixth head of the Ratri clan who's going to turn thirty next year, along with this boy looking so much like James. He knew his brother had no children, and despite his traitorous ways knew he'd never father one with a Sister for a variety of reasons. Yet here is this distant relative whose genes were still so prominent even after being diluted with multiple generations of cattle blood (him being vain enough to include Norman's intelligence as being another gift of Ratri inheritance). He decides to take it as a sign and as a duty to reclaim and "salvage" this wayward line of the clan.
Norman knows something's off when he doesn't receive all of the drugs he normally does for the day. Everything else proceeds as routine until dinner, when he's escorted not by scientists or demons, but men dressed in suits to an area of Lambda he's never been to before. They arrive in a lavishly decorated room with Peter seated at a relatively small but well-furnished dinner table. Norman's never seen so much food meant for one person, but as Peter invites him to have a seat, he realizes it's meant for two people.
There's some small talk regarding the spread, Peter's recommendations and whether Norman's favorite dish is there. By sheer coincidence there is some chickpeas and meat stew present, and while Norman is still wary of the entire situation, he doesn't refuse the bowl placed in front of him by the butler. It's the most delicious thing he's ever tasted. Peter makes sure to clarify one of his personal chefs made it.
This segues into a brief discussion about the daily tests Norman's been taking at Lambda. He confirms they're harder than the tests at Grace Field, but he enjoys the challenge, the tiniest bit of smug pride seeping in in the event Peter had any ego tied up in his being bested by one of these tests. The proud tone in the response throws him off before his brain registers the words "as to be expected of a Ratri." Peter then apologizes at the small but still noticeable change in his expression, lamenting how he probably should have started out with that to ease any of Norman's worries.
He goes on to explain how he discovered this, interpreting Norman's silence as positive before moving on to provide a brief overview of how the Ratri clan came to be the mediators between two worlds and then explaining how his life will change now that he'll be staying in the Ratri visitors' quarters for the remainder of his time at Lambda. The process to remove his tattoo and brand will begin the following day, and he'll be weened off the remaining drugs he's been given.
Norman knows it's beyond his consideration, but he still can't believe the gall of this man.
As for what [being a Ratri] would mean to Norman, he’s never indicated any sense of loss related to not knowing members of his immediate birth family or fretting over his origins, but for him to be related to the clan that’s perpetuated this system of abuse over a millennia and with how his rigid sense of morality lent itself to the idea of exterminating every single demon, if he was in a particularly negative thought spiral, it might eat at him on some bad days.
Where Peter expected rapturous or reverential awe at being a long-lost member of the clan, he felt sick. He never knew his birth mother or other forebearers, but imagining everything those women had to endure after seeing what it turned Isabella into, all being said so casually without a hint of guilt over the horrors his clan perpetuated like he's discussing the pedigree of a thoroughbred animal instead of a human being, it's nauseating.
And his neck tattoo…the Lambda brand he wouldn't give a second thought to losing, but the tattoo has this paradoxical sense of kinship attached to it that I briefly go over in this post regarding the children still keeping their tattoos years after being in the human world. Even with it being a horrible symbol of their dehumanization under this system, it's been a familiar sight to him since his earliest memories. It's one of the physical markers of his connection with Emma, Ray, and the rest of his family, and this man will be flippantly erasing that. How easy it is for him having never bore the grief that comes with it.
This is already long but a tangentially related conversation to this eventually comes up with Peter asking about Emma and Ray. On the surface it's to connect with Norman and learn more about his life at Grace Field, but the ulterior motive is to see if there's any information he can glean about these kids to find and capture them quicker. Norman will give it to him for having the tact not to slip and refer to them by their numbers like he's sure he wants to do, but he's still incensed at their names in his mouth. There's also the chance that Peter might reveal a crumb of information himself about their status (because Norman can't see why he would be asking unless he had something to gain from it, so that has to mean their escape was a success and they were all alive. The alternative would kill him), so he entertains the conversation. He tries not to give any tells, but when he talks about them his thumb might have grazed the spot where his number used to be before covering it up with a cough.
Norman's never taken in by Peter's seemingly genial demeanor, but it's odd how personal and almost…amiable the man can be with him. Still, the love he's offering is contingent on Norman's continued assistance at Lambda (Peter sees it as their shared duty to solve the conundrum of faster high quality meat production) and at least the appearance of respect toward the clan. It's not unconditional like Lucas' and Yuugo's.
The clearest hint of this might be Peter mentioning how much Norman resembles James one night at dinner, building his brother up with the same admiration he displays in chapter 173 before lamenting his fall from grace, stressing the sacrifice he had to make by murdering him but still ultimately going through with it because the clan and balance between two worlds takes precedence above all else.
Alternatively, another scenario that's easier to work into canon is the Ratri clan realizing Norman's lineage when the cattle children arrive in the human world, also prompted by the databases at Grace Field sparking further investigation with a DNA test. Once it's confirmed, they keep pestering Norman about leaning into this kinship and actively working for them, along with having his family and friends seemingly on good terms with the clan for some PR optics. Norman finds the idea insulting and revolting, but he can't ignore the benefits that would come with it.
Like some other fans, I greatly dislike Norman becoming a CEO during the final major timeskip, as well as Lambda sickness being conveniently treated with no chronic aftereffects and absolutely no issues with them integrating into human world and being welcomed with open arms by everyone. I understand Shirai wanted to wrap up the series on his own terms after years of dealing with the strain that is weekly manga publishing, and he needed an explanation for how the kids could easily fund their expeditions to search for Emma, but oof, do I hate it lol. All of these remain a concern for the cattle children here, and while the Ratri clan wouldn't outright abandon them if he refused, Norman wouldn't put it past them to drag their feet on certain matters. Their finances and prestige shield them from any misguided resentment some people may hold for them. Their connections are a boon for securing future educations and careers. And god would it expedite the search for Emma.
I like to imagine a late night benefit-cost analysis between Norman, Ray, Don, and Gilda taking place at some point after they've settled in enough. The other three reaffirm that if Norman felt it was going to kill his soul to work for the Ratris, his friends and family would stand by his refusal, but they would be remiss not to acknowledge the pragmatism in further solidifying the relationship (particularly poignant coming from Ray, though not completely analogous situations). The conversation drifts off for a bit before Norman, looking exhausted across the table they're seated at with his hands on his knees, states, "I want her back with us."
Working with the clan would be odd in so many ways with how they would laud his status as a cattle child and how he was taking the lead on amending relations between the Ratri and the cattle children while never wanting to fully interrogate what that meant. There's a hierarchy with Norman at the top and the mass production farm children at the bottom in many of their minds. At one point in private after a publicity event someone says offhand, "you can cover that up now, you know," referring to his ID. Even in the winter he tries to make a point not to wear scarves or turtlenecks when he knows he's going to be around them.
I hate the idea of there being one good and upstanding Ratri member that befriends him just because it's too convenient, and if we're being real Norman would never let down his walls enough and let them into his personal world after everything he's been through, but I do like the thought of him maybe getting along with a few scattered members, probably younger, who recognize the terrible fate that befell the children from another world and are genuinely amiable with him without beholding him to form a meaningful friendship with them. A small attempt at a personal level of atonement that he can recognize and appreciate while still maintaining that mental distance. I also think he'd appreciate the very youngest children of the family who could give him insight into what the adults might really think of him and his friends with their uncensored commentary lol.
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jwcc-confessions · 11 months ago
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I’m worried about how they’re going to handle animal rights and issues, specifically farm animals, in Chaos Theory, but more in a “what is the audience going to take away from this?” sort of way.
I know the show is mainly about dinosaurs/prehistoric animals but so far we’ve had;
- Sammy, a character who’s main thing is her family’s beef ranch and how much she loves cattle, specifically her pet cow, Bessie.
- Herbivorous dinosaurs that are repeatedly compared to cattle by multiple people, and no one argues against it, everyone agrees that they’re like cattle.
- Vegan alternatives shown as environmentally conscious choices and a parallel to factory farms through dinosaur breeding farms in Dominion.
- And now there’s a new character, Sydney, who is said to be an environmentalist so I’m assuming she’s going to be vegan, or at least vegetarian.
Camp Cretaceous had a lot of issues with putting dinosaurs on a pedestal while ignoring other animals, specifically cattle but that’s because Sammy would keep bringing them up.
Like, I noticed this throughout all the seasons, but in Seasons 4 and 5 it’s more obvious. In the last two seasons they really avoided calling the dinosaurs animals. Because they can’t say that hurting animals, especially for money, is wrong without opening up *that* dialogue about hurting animals for meat and byproducts, as well as implying that the Gutierrez ranch is doing something that is morally questionable, if not flat out wrong.
Because as much as they could say and show that the animals are treated well on the ranch, it’d be dishonest to push that something realistic. Because real life beef farms, no matter how small or how family owned, still adhere to practices like weaning claves when they’re too young (the natural weaning age is 9-11 months), fasting, which is basically starving, animals for 12+ hours to lessen the chance of issues with the digestive track, artificial insemination, and conscious and unmedicated dehorning, ear-tagging, tail-docking, and castration.
And I get that it’s a show for kids, so they can’t go too far into veganism and animal rights without risking backlash from parents, but they weren’t even neutral about it. They full on endorse it with Sammy. She’s a massive animal lover with a pet cow, a big heart, and a love for meat. That’s all we get. No nuance, no conflict, no nothing, to the point where it genuinely felt like some of the funding for the show came from somewhere in the meat industry over some of the things Sammy has said and done.
All in all, the show purposefully compares dinosaurs to cattle multiple times, but when it comes to who is worthy of being rescued and living out their lives in peace, it’s the dinosaurs. It’s the ones’ whose abuse towards is completely fictional that we’re supposed to sympathize with.
Maybe Chaos Theory will be better about it and dive into those issues, since it’s supposed to be more mature than Camp Cretaceous, but considering season 5 had the kids eat ice cream right after using the bond between a mother and her child to convince Daniel not to hurt the dinosaurs I don’t have high hopes for it.
These are some really great points and topics I'd love to see explored in CT. But honestly given what we got in the last few seasons of CC, I just feel like the writing isn't strong enough. They don't care or aren't capable of writing that kind of nuance :(
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evita-shelby · 10 months ago
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the math i have to make to make panem and its ridiculously small populations for places that need more people to function is giving me a headache. and this is just for a hunger games peaky blinders au only like 6 people will read lol
as someone from a cattle ranching family i wanna have a talk with suzanne collins to see how a place with less people than my county manage to feed a country when in 2023 the us had 1 million people working in the just the beef industry. and also the district that provides the livestock has like the remains of central and northern mexico, west central and half of north texas, east new mexico. by default it should be at least a million or two since meat plants are notorious for accidents and obviously you need to work in agriculture to provide feed for the animals, and have vets for them since they have artificial insemination for their cows and also the fact that it is also presumably surrounded by ocean they sustain themselves with fishing. by default d10 should be amongst the richest of the districts since it can literally sustain itself even if it holds the remains of the sonoran desert.
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mosswolf · 10 months ago
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im listening to gathering moss by robin wall kimmerer right now and she talks about a conversation that she had with her neighbour, a cattle farmer. the neighbour was like oh the AI man is coming today! and she was like ?? artificial intelligence?? and the neighbour was like 🤨 artificial. insemination...
that's even funnier today than it would have been in 2003 when this was written i think. and i am going to think about it every time i see a post about AI
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marcelwrites · 2 years ago
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This is the first day I’ve been able to just sit down and write for over a week. We fail to recognise the importance of this liminal space between the heavy and the soft, the push and pull, of modern life. I constantly put myself in positions of overexertion, stress, and hard work. The quiet kills me slowly, twisting the knife deeper in my side. I punish myself with lengthy workouts, sometimes twice a day, because the quiet is a killer. I need to feel my body shake with effort to sleep. I brought up ‘modern life’ before because I acknowledge the danger inherent in living the contemporary day-to-day, it’s concession by a thousand paper cuts, the wasting disease lifestyle modern man revels in. Couchlock yourself after a particularly rough day at the office, drink yourself to oblivion after some customer complaints at the hair salon. It’s all the same. It’s one thin paper cut after another and eventually you’ve got sepsis. The law of the land is compliance. Comply or die. No thanks, you’re going to have to grow a fucking spine, put the captive bolt to my head, and do it yourself, coward. Send me to the slaughterhouse like you do with all the innocent cattle that you breed to imprison, rape, and murder. Our single most heinous industry. Are we any different at the end of the day? Exchange the artificial insemination and slaughter for doom scrolling on TikTok and retweeting celebrity gossip and you’re almost all of the way there. Let’s not get too stuck on the wanton abuse and dominion of the animal kingdom though. Let’s dial it back to fighting back against the sedentary, against the embrace of atrophy, and the cultivation of bedsores. Let’s embody the genetic growth between the great distance from our furthest ancestor and ourselves, the link between past and present. How we stand as a testament to everyone that’s come before us. The culmination of thousands of years of struggle and toil, blood and soil, and of utter human endurance. We exist to fight back against the preachers of ego death and self-destruction. It isn’t easy, hard work never is, but it’s the right thing to do. Our salvation won’t be handed to us wrapped in silk by soft hands, it’ll be clawed and prayed from the hands of a dead man, rigor mortis having set in hours ago, blood pooling beneath the body in darkening, sticky clots. I will fight for it until my heart explodes with aortic fury and my body gives out. It’s encoded in my DNA, to fight, to fuck, and to live the life of a conqueror. The tribal savagery tattooed deeply in my soul. I wouldn't have it any other way.
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bovineblogger · 1 year ago
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so. How do people inseminate cows with the obtained semen?
I’d look it up… but I’m worried about seeing gross/NSFW images so I’d rather just ask for a description.
Mom and dad were watching Yellowstone and there was a scene where they were getting semen from a stallion and we had a discussion about it and I asked dad how do they inseminate an animal and he didn’t know so. I thought I should ask you. The process is likely pretty similar between cows and horses.
ok basically uhhh
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u got a shoulder length plastic glove on one arm. giant semen syringe in the other.
basically the long glove arm goes in da anus and feels around to guide the ai gun thru the cervix where u deposit the semen! there are a lot of steps im skipping over but thats the gist of it lol
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AI is a lot safer and cheaper than natural breeding, which requires owning a bull or renting one and can injure the cow! so thank u AI
ALSO!! just an ammendum cuz i know some ppl get worried..
i genuinely cannot state just how much cattle do not care. cow brains do not work the same as human brains, they do not ascribe the same importance to reproductive stuff that we do. artificial insemination does not bother them. its safer and easier than natural breeding, and i cannot stress enough, it does not stress them out. they are ok!! i love you.
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reikunrei · 2 years ago
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there is honestly sooo much evidence that Brenner used Henry to "breed" Eleven and all of the other kids at Hawkins Lab:
we never learn anything about who El’s biological father is. it's never even posed as a really tangible question. all we know about Terry's pregnancy was that it was a surprise, and they were all worried about it since she was in the middle of doing these supposed "drug experiments" at the lab, which was also used as a cover for taking away El, blaming a "miscarriage."
if Terry was under the influence, she likely would not have ever been aware that she had been artificially inseminated.
Henry is of the right age for Brenner to have collected sperm samples from him. quick math with some science thrown in: El was 8 in 1979 and Henry was 32 (per the fandom wiki). therefore, when El was conceived, Henry would have been 23/24. we don't know the ages of the other kids at the lab, but there don't seem to be many who are older than Eleven. some of the kids who assaulted her looked like they could have been 15-18 (though this also depends on how much we're aging down the actors like the main cast lol). regardless, even if we ballpark one of the older kids being 18, Henry would have been 13/14 at the time of conception. people who produce semen can start developing sperm as soon as puberty begins, which can start as early as 11 years old. as icky as it feels, i would not put it past Brenner to take samples from Henry the instant he was viable.
the fact that there are age gaps between all of the kids is evidence that Brenner didn't want to raise any red flags about the pregnancies in his test subjects. it seems like anywhere from 1-4 kids at the lab could be around the same age, so Brenner would have played it safe by inseminating just a few women at a time to not raise any alarms.
Brenner admitted that Henry was difficult to control, so that would lead him to try and get "fresh" minds that he could mold from infancy so the kids wouldn't try to fight against him and would do exactly what he asked. he needed to be sure they'd have powers to begin with, though, so of course he tried taking from the only source he had.
this is less evidence, but just something the scene after Henry helps El and he gets physically punished for it reminds me of. him being tasered reminds me of livestock being physically reprimanded into behaving a certain way (ie. taser = cattle prod). and, hey, if you want good cattle, you breed your best bull.
and now, less quantifiable stuff to point at, but more evidence by way of the storytelling of the series... i talked about it in depth in this post where i discussed my personal thoughts and hopes for how they elaborate on the relationship between El and Henry, but to sum it up:
throughout the entire show, but especially in s4, there's been the discussion of "good vs evil" or "monsters vs superheroes" and how things are not so black and white, as Brenner put it. even Henry says that, no, Brenner was not a monster, he was just a mediocre man who was searching for purpose vicariously through his experiments.
this, i feel, is obviously leading to an understanding on Eleven's end that she has both done monstrous things and is still a good person at heart. she strives to be good, she pushes against being the "monster," but she will have to admit that, sometimes, she behaves in monstrous ways. however, that does not make her a "monster."
this could very easily jump into her being blood-related to Henry, worrying that it makes her more of a monster, before realizing that evil is not genetic. like, it's not that far of a stretch to place this narrative over blood relations while the kids at Hawkins Lab already all view themselves as "siblings" due to their upbringing.
on the opposite side of the coin, this feeds into the discussion that Henry is not a pure-blooded monster. not only will Eleven have to realize that she is capable of being a monster, but Henry is capable of not being a monster. he is, just like Brenner, simply a man who happened to find himself in fantastic circumstances.
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