#Ao Bing zhuan
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lotus-duckies · 2 years ago
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cries because shen gong bao shaming ao bing's way of eating
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GIRL
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startsukasa · 3 months ago
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chat has anyone here read aobing zhuan
please
im hyperfixated so bad it’s actually painful
I need someone to talk to about this I have so many thoughts
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mayito-bel · 2 months ago
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I really like this Ao Bing
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m0dernchr0n1cles · 3 months ago
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Yinglong & Ao Bing
from Ao Bing Zhuan
Credit to @oubing_bot, read full manga here
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Did anyone else get Ursa vibes from Yinglong?
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yellowelectroslime · 3 months ago
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does anyone know a manga reading platform where you can read all 58 chapters of Ao Bing Zhuan (a manhwa based off of the movie ne zha 2019)
it doesn't have to be translated
someone please help me.... ('T᷄⌑T᷅)
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im-a-ramblr · 1 month ago
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Can someone whose read Ao Bing Zhuan, or has access to it get me pictures of Ao Jia, Ao Yi, and their mom? I want references to try and come up with that Ao Bing's horns might look when he's older/ascended.
If there are any good shots of Ao Bing's horns that you think are different/more detailed than the movie shows feel free to send them my way as well
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vink-spade15 · 1 year ago
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Ayy where's the Aobing zhuan fandom? They cant be dead yet
Anyways here's my fav character Jin wen and i like even tho she's a villain.
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yunsound · 2 months ago
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Some drama from Ne Zha 2 and Ao Bing Zhuan (Tale of Ao Bing)
For those of us that watched Ne Zha 2 or Ne Zha 1, I'm sure Ao Bing was one of our favourite characters: he's polite, cute and strong. In 2021, after the success of Ne Zha 1, they released a side webcomic about Ao Bing titled Ao Bing Zhuan (or the Tale of Ao Bing) focusing on Ao Bing's backstory.
It didn't get very much attention: in fact, it kind of flopped, even with the huge amount of Ne Zha 1 fans. This can be attributed to a number of reasons.
The hype for Ne Zha 1 sort of died down during and post-Covid.
Ao Bing Zhuan wasn't advertised very well
Other reasons that I don't know
However, with the huge success of Ne Zha 2 in China, Ao Bing Zhuan started getting a LOT of attention recently. I'll summarise some key stuff from Ao Bing Zhuan without spoiling too much of it. It is a paid webcomic, by the way.
Confirmed canon (in movieverse/mythology):
Ao Bing has two older brothers (canonical in both the movies and the myth, since he's the third prince of the East China Sea). His father, Ao Guang (canon) hid his egg for a thousand years so he wouldn't be killed by the Heavenly Court. Since Ao Bing was born after the dragons were imprisoned under the sea, he doesn't have the chains on him, and can move freely, unlike every other dragon.
Not confirmed canon (ABZ original):
Ao Bing Zhuan gives the backstory of his family. His two older brothers and mother are not canonically confirmed in the movieverse, but ABZ gives them identities.
His mother, in ABZ, is 应龙, or Ying Long. In the myths, Ying Long is the only dragon with wings (even though all Chinese dragons cal fly) and is a dragon deity. Ying Long is male in classic Chinese mythology, and is a supremely powerful rain deity whose descendants/distant relatives are the dragon tribe we know in most myths. In ABZ, Ying Long is female, and was imprisoned for reasons I won't spoil after giving birth to her children with Ao Guang.
Ao Bing's older brothers in ABZ are called Ao Jia and Ao Yi after the Chinese phrase 甲乙丙丁 Jia Yi Bing Ding, which isn't an idiom, just a way of describing order (Jia is first, Yi is second, Bing is third, Ding is fourth). So Ao Jia is like Big Ao, Ao Yi is like Second Ao, etc etc.
ABZ was hugely popular for almost a month after Ne Zha 2 dropped. Now here's where the drama begins.
Back in 2019, before ABZ ever released, fans of Ne Zha 1 began shipping Ao Guang and the Heavenly Emperor (Haotian Emperor). For an explanation on who Haotian Emperor is, please see my post linked here. In 2019, to keep in mind, neither Ao Guang nor the Haotian Emperor's human forms were revealed, and the Haotian Emperor was only mentioned in passing when Ao Guang laments the past glories of his dragon clan.
This was never a hugely popular ship as much as Oubing (Ne Zha x Ao Bing) was, and everyone shipping it acknowledged that it was half a crack ship and half just a brainchild made up of only headcanons (sort of like the Marauders ships in Harry Potter). Its dynamic, though, is hugely popular in Asian BL media: powerful seme who's a jerk to the uke, the uke says fuck you and leaves, then the seme regrets it- 追妻火葬场 (wife-chasing fiery disaster)
The general dynamic of 地笼 (Dilong, Ao Guang x Haotian Emperor's ship name) was that when Ao Guang was young, he met the Haotian Emperor, and the two began a romantic and sexual relationship. Ao Guang, being young, fell in love with the Emperor and spent a lot of time and energy exorcising demons for him.
However, for varying reasons, the Emperor betrayed him and cast him down into the underwater prison. Ao Guang thus resents him, and the Emperor, after seeing how much he's suffered, feels bad.
Dilong is an old ship as far as the Ne Zha fandom is concerned: it existed well before ABZ, and since ABZ wasn't popular, there was never any conflict between ABZ fans who shipped Ying Long and Ao Guang vs Dilong fans.
Ever since Ne Zha 2 went big, however, ABZ became big as well, and Dilong fans and Guangying (Ao Bing x Ying Long) fans began to fight each other. Guangying fans began attacking Dilong fans for ignoring canon and making up a ship that wasn't even implied, and Dilong fans attacked Guangying fans for being nosy.
This sort of battle went on for about two weeks. About three days ago, Dilong fans began finding out some things about ABZ that didn't look so great for ABZ.
First off, is ABZ even canon? It was always regarded as canon for its fans. The official movie's account endorsed it, and it was labeled as "Official Fanwork", which is a bit of an oxymoron. The author themself replied to a question asking if Jiaozi the director of Ne Zha 1 and 2 gave them the script by saying "Jiaozi's team gave me the general idea and I do the drawing", leading people to believe ABZ was canon.
Most Dilong fans are very spiteful towards ABZ because Guangying fans tend to do something called keyao (which means to specifically attack a ship in the comments of a video or work endorsing it, or to mention a ship when it's not mentioned in a video or work. It's seen as very bad fandom etiquette in China and Asia).
Recently, since there's been ship wars, Dilong fans found several things about ABZ that are a little sus.
ABZ's author is an Ao Guang yume.
What's a yume? A Japanese term for "Dream" which in fandom refers to a person who ships themself with a character. Usually being a yume is very widely accepted in Chinese fandoms, but to be a yume for a character and then also produce official content is not accepted seeing as it's disrespectful to other fans. This is different for fanwork, as yume fanwork is accepted.
2. ABZ contains very little Ao Bing content.
About half of ABZ's chapters do not include Ao Bing, and instead focus on Ao Bing's two older brothers. The author has expressed that they initially wanted the work to be titled The Tale of the Dragon's Sons, which is more fitting, but thought that name was too chuunibyou, so they changed it to The Tale of Ao Bing, or Ao Bing Zhuan (ABZ). Even ABZ fans have expressed discontent with the lack of Ao Bing content in ABZ, which is meant to be centered around Ao Bing.
3. ABZ's plot conflicts with the plot of the Ne Zha movies
One of the plot points in ABZ is that Ao Bing's weapons, the two round hammers that look like lollipops, were weapons Ying Long left to him. However, in the Ne Zha movies, the weapons break multiple times and are reformed by Ao Bing, and the official account's character synopsis state that Ao Bing created the weapons himself. Additionally, in ABZ, Ao Bing's older brother Ao Yi is able to enter and exit the prison underwater, even though it was explicitly stated in Ne Zha 1 and 2 that not a single dragon can leave (except for Ao Bing, who has never had the chains on him).
Ao Yi also tells Ao Bing that he's going to attempt to separate the Lingzhu (Spiritual Pearl) from his body because he's afraid the pressure will be too much for him, which is impossible in canon.
In the movies, Ao Bing has been isolated his whole life- he's only ever interacted with his father Ao Guang, his master Shen Gongbao, and his aunt and uncles. However, in ABZ, he constantly fought with the abyssal monsters, and even tried to make friends with one of them (and was taught a lesson as to why that's a bad idea).
In Ne Zha 1, Shen Gongbao explicitly says Ao Bing's dragon horns can't be covered up, but in ABZ, a random person can cast a spell on him to cover up the horns.
3. ABZ's characters are very OOC
Ao Yi, Ao Jia and Ying Long have not been mentioned in other official works, but in Ne Zha 1 and 2 it has been established that Ao Bing and Ao Guang have a very good relationship with each other and care about each other very much. However, in ABZ, Ao Guang explicitly tells Ao Bing to his face that he is very disappointed in him, and is generally very strict and uncaring towards him.
Additionally, Ao Bing is very strong in the Ne Zha movies (he's canonically a little stronger than Ne Zha since Ne Zha wears a seal to suppress his powers), but in ABZ he's pretty weak, even though Shen Gongbao, Ao Guang and even Master Wuliang praise him as a prodigy from birth.
4. Ying Long is a badly-written character
Ying Long in mythology is a male supreme deity the likes of which Ao Guang and Ao Bing cannot be compared to. This is not the main gripe against the ABZ Ying Long: it's that she's portrayed as a caring mother, but after she gave birth to her children she abandoned them.
5. Ying Long is the author's self-insert OC
This one actually surprised me since all the previous complaints seemed kind of dumb. Prior to the release of ABZ, the author posted an art of their female dragon self-insert OC. They mentioned that "you can think of her as me, and you can think of me as her." This OC has the exact same face, hair and clothing as the ABZ Ying Long. TBH, Ying Long and the OC look literally the exact same. A self-insert OC being the love interest of the author's yume partner is obviously not a good look for any webcomic that claims to be the official spinoff of such a widely-beloved movie series.
The author of ABZ used to be a production assistant on Ne Zha 1, but quit for unknown reasons.
6. The biggest thing: the author plagiarised Dilong art despite creating the Guangying ship
The author's Weibo account was found and they sent many hateful comments under Dilong posts saying how disgusted they were by the ship. Dilong was very commonly attacked back then, but the author also commented that they even bought a Dilong doujinshi even though they hate Dilong because they thought Ao Guang and Ao Bing were drawn attractively.
Back in 2019, there was a viral genderbend Dilong art (remember, this was back when Ao Guang's human form was unknown) that depicted Ao Guang in a specific pose and with specific colouring. This is the exact same coloring, pose and clothing that Ying Long wears.
Additionally, since the Heavenly Emperor (Haotian)'s appearance is unknown, there was another viral Dilong art that depicted him as having teal hair and horns. This is the exact coloring and design of the character Ao Yi in ABZ.
A third viral Dilong art (from before Ao Bing's brother's names were confirmed to be Ao Jia and Ao Yi in ABZ) depicted a family of five with the Emperor, Ao Guang, Ao Bing, and two older brothers also called Ao Jia and Ao Yi. Since Jia Yi Bing Ding is a phrase, this isn't an exact confirmation of plagiarism, but the designs of Ao Jia and Ao Yi are probably 95% similar to the designs in the Dilong fanart.
In essence, Ao Bing Zhuan (ABZ) is like, 75% "cancelled" or whatever. I'm not going to lie, I never felt a desire to read it since I really dislike the artstyle and I'm not a fan of Ying Long's characterization. I agree with most of the complaints about the story and the art: it's never acceptable in fandom to criticise fan artists over the so-called "quality" of their work, but if you're going to claim your webcomic is canon material, then at least make the art good. It's very obvious the art is done in a half-assed manner, and the storyline is... IDK, it's not good.
I'd never heard of Dilong before the ABZ drama- I'm a little confused as to how that ship ever happened, but whatever. This drama is mostly inconsequential and stupid fan wars, but I'm not gonna lie, ABZ is probably one of the worst-executed spinoff webcomics I've ever seen in any fandom ever. ABZ also isn't even confirmed to be canon despite what the author and fans say- it's not on the list of Ne Zha spinoff canon works (there's another spinoff comic that IS listed as official) and it was labeled "Official Fanwork".
Just another example of how crazy shippers can get, I guess. I kind of feel bad for Dilong shippers, even though half the "allegations" against ABZ seem dumb. TBH, I don't think most of this is worth "cancelling" a webcomic over, I just don't think people should think of ABZ as canon (it probably isn't) and I wouldn't recommend paying to read it if you're looking for Ao Bing backstory.
It's probably considered the same as Harry Potter and the Cursed Child. Ignorable. Lmao. Whereas Dilong is like the Marauders ships: almost 100% headcanons, but beloved.
There is an OFFICIAL (this one is 100% official, it's on the Ne Zha website) spinoff comic that includes some of Ao Bing's childhood years. 三界往事 Sanjie Wangshi (Stories in Three Realms) is 100% canon, the official accounts are selling it, it's a picture book and includes a letter from Jiaozi in it. It has extra art and scenes.
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nezhapreferences · 9 days ago
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Have you read the Ao Bing comic? It tells his backstory, about how he got his weapons, how he grew up in the sea when he was young. It also shows his two brothers. Also if you did, do you write headcanons for ao Bing's brothers, or any other characters in the comic?
https://mangadex.org/title/51e4cd4b-a1a1-464b-b12c-76ed02d9b483/aobing-zhuan
Thanks for putting me onnn!! Just got to chapter 8, but I'll add them once i finish the comic AND the requests :D
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the-monkey-ruler · 2 years ago
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You know, it would make sense if an adaption made Wūzhīqí the mystic long-armed gibbon. They’re both apes for one and super strong for the other. They’d probably be Yuán Wūzhīqí.
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YES! Omg that would be amazing to give Long Arms Gibbon some BACKSTORY, especially tied with another powerful (put also unknown) Wuzhiqi THAT WAS TRAPPED BY YU THE GREAT, Wukong's staff's previous owner!!! SO MANY TIES!
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I would love more Spiritual Primate material but I have seen Wuzhiqi in only a SINGLE piece of media that funny enough is connected to the Hero is Back (2015) universe!
In the Nezha (2019) movie there was a prequel comic that follows Ao Bing on his childhood adventure to see what happened to his two older brothers and his mother!
Spoilers but his Mother was the one keeping Wuzhiqi at bay.
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The poor man is trapped the whole time BUT HE DOES GET TO TALK! Love how they still got his facial expressions despite him being stuck there.
Monkeys always have beef with Dragons. The Eastern Dragon in particular XD
But I can't agree more that I think that would be such a clever tie in for an adaptation!
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dragonsandphoenix · 1 month ago
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hi, saw ur question under someone's post asking if ao bing zhuan is official! when it was announced it was labeled as "official fanwork" which is a bit of an oxymoron. basically director jiaozi's team gave the author the rights to write a fanfiction/make a fancomic and make money off of it. technically, it is not canon in movieverse, but it has been approved by the official people.
oh that sounds really complicated, i wonder how these things work. but thanks for the info!
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m0dernchr0n1cles · 2 months ago
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Ao Yi being the only source of unconditional love and acceptance that Ao Bing had is both heartwarming and sad.
SPOILERS for Ao Bing Zhuan
TW: mentions of child abuse, character death
Ao Yi lost his older brother, and their last conversation was Ao Yi practically disowning Ao Jia. He had a fight with Ao Jia, getting mutilated as a result.
I don’t think he ever got to properly grieve Ao Jia or his mother, which would explain why he feels so dead inside.
Still, despite their disagreements, he clearly still loved Ao Jia and his model for being a good caretaker is following his big brother’s example. He’s masking hard for the sake of what’s left of his family.
Then comes Ao Bing.
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[I talked a bit about Ao Bing’s abuse here]
Ao Bing is getting conditional “love” (more like distant transactional approval) from Ao Guang and Shen Gongbao, who punish him for daring to have his own opinions.
You can’t tell me dropping a child in the cave with a bunch of demons with a magically-induced “kill or be killed” test isn’t child abuse.
And some wonderful dose of emotional abuse by Ao Guang.
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As a result, Ao Yi is emotionally parentified. He has to be the caretaker to his baby brother, while supporting his father’s mad entanglement in Heavenly politics, which got Ao Jia killed in the first place.
What’s sad is that Ao Yi (who planned to steal the Spirit Pearl from Ao Bing) is the only one has his little brother’s genuine interests at heart. He’s the only one who rightly points out the flaw of Ao Guang and Shen Gongbao’s plan, and how it endangers Ao Bing.
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visterical · 3 years ago
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athena keeps telling me not to finish picking this up and rereading/finishing it but I don't care ao guang is eternal
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pelokio · 4 years ago
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Time to get serious
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m0dernchr0n1cles · 2 months ago
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Ao Guang being a "Good Dad" V
Ao Guang: "The Dragon Clans will need a capable leader, a strong ruler."
[Ao Guang smiles slightly]
Ao Guang: "Perhaps, he could be my son."
Ao Bing: (awed) "You'd give me a throne?"
[Ao Guang places a hand on Ao Bing's shoulder, pulling him closer]
Ao Guang: "I will give you the world, child, if you prove you can take it."
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yellowelectroslime · 9 months ago
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🍮⋆.ೃ࿔*:・Fandom list⋆.ೃ࿔*:・🍮
My current fav characters (in no particular order)
-Argenti (Honkai Star Rail)
-Sampo (Honkai Star Rail)
-Welt Yang (Honkai Star Rail)
-Sunday (Honkai Star Rail)
-Thoma (Genshin Impact)
-Yoimiya (Genshin Impact)
-Capitano (Genshin Impact)
-Nicole Demera (Zenless Zone Zero)
-Von Lycaon (Zenless Zone zero)
-Alexandrina Sebastiane (Zenless Zone Zero)
-Billy Kid (Zenless Zone Zero)
-Ne zha (Ne Zha 2019 and 2025)
-Ao Bing (Ne zha 2019 and 2025)
-Alexis Ness (Blue Lock)
-Michael Kaiser (Blue Lock)
-Natsuki Seba (Sakamoto days)
🍮 Anime/Manga 🍮
Bleach
Blue lock
Chainsaw man
Demon slayer
Dungeon Meshi
Gokurakugai
Haikyuu!!
Jujutsu Kaisen
Kengan Ashura/Omega
Sakamoto days
Sk8
Toilet bound hanako-kun
Tokyo Revengers
Windbreaker
Wonder egg priority
🍮 Video games 🍮
Baldur's Gate 3
Danganronpa V3
Genshin Impact
Homicipher
Honkai Star Rail
Valorant (maybe)
Zenless Zone Zero
🍮 Manhua/Donghua (basically just chinese manga/anime) 🍮
Ao Bing Zhuan
Fog Hill of Five Elements
Lan Xi Zhen
Luo Xiao Hei
Ne Zha 2019 and 2025
🍮 Studio Ghibli movies 🍮
Howl’s Moving Castle
My neighbor Totoro
Kiki’s delivery service
Spirited away
Ponyo
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