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I've seen a few people talk about how much smoother things would have gone for the cast if they had A Mature Conversation about things, but like. they're teenagers. Not only that, they're all gifted kid teenagers who also have Issues (except Hajime who only has the Issues). How capable do you think they are of going 'alright now boys we need to talk about your misogyny' or somesuch
#I think a part of what COULD be the tragedy of it all is on fact that they're teenagers with even less#-of a standard for what's normal than regular teenagers.#16 year old kids seeing another 16 year old kid who clearly has a history of abuse but they're like#Damn that sucks... Uh... Should I tell a teacher or#Oh right wait killing game island. Welp.#Them as adults post game looking back like god DAMN if I could go back in time and respond better#But yknow no time like the present#The fact that people like heard a single word out of Mikans mouth and did not think to intervene says sth-#-about the school they went to methinks.#Anyway. This has been a Me Talking#Ps not saying teenagers aren't capable of being good people#But being in that situation on top of all their backstory baggage I can't blame them for putting certain things on the backburner#WAIT ALSO ALSO. Have YOU ever tried to talk to a mean teenager. Jesus christ#They do not take reason trying to argue just makes them stronger.
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I just wanna say bc I KNOW you're somewhere on tumblr, to the teenage girl who attended Take Your Kid To Work Day at an office building in Ontario, Canada circa 2013 and had a conversation with a middle aged woman in which you showed her your Black Veil Brides fanart and fanfics and ship content and told her about different fanfic tropes including a/b/o verse bc she happened to know who Panic! at The Disco and Fallout Boy were and thus you felt the need to show her your bandblr ship art, that was my fucking mother and I had to clarify all that to her including looking my mother in the eye and trying to explain a/b/o verse without sounding like a lunatic.
It's been 10 years and I still regularly sent evil energies in your direction. Since you'd be probably two years younger than me and thus legally an adult now, please know if this post reaches you it's on sight.
#she cornered me in the car and asked what shipping was and i almost had a fucking heart attack#imagine being like 16 years old and habing to explain knotting to your mother#random emo music girl I'm glad you had fun talking about your Band Guys to my mother#bc i also attended take your kid to work day at that office and i know how boring it was#but christ alive why did you have to fuck me like that?#anyways i hope this post reaches you so at the very least you know i think about you at least once a week#this has been weighing on me for ten years#im almost tempted to blaze this post
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hmmm.... thoughts about composer!reader, whose pieces are always created for and featured in mr reca's films/projects.
people aren't sure when it first started, but in the release of one of his prior films was an ost. of course, it's not unusual to have music in such projects, but that one had felt... different, somehow — in the way its composition struck the chords of many, with billions across the cosmos instantly scouring for who made that piece.
it, of course, didn't take all that long when your name was featured in the credits. however there was barely any information aside from your name and credentials. (seriously, how could there not even be a single photo?!) no one knew what you looked like for quite a long time, only ever recognising your name and your music; even despite the numerous interviews, mr reca had never disclosed anything about you other than your talents. it came to a point where everyone believed they would never see your appearance.
well, until all hell broke loose during the annual intergalactic film awards, that is.
everyone already knew the drill — if mr reca had directed a film that year, it would undoubtedly win the adapted/original screenplay, cinematography, directing, production design, sound, music (original score and song), and film of the year awards, which also led to you winning both the music awards. usually, the composers would be the ones to collect said awards. however, the masses have become used to mr reca being the one to collect them on your behalf with thank you's also on your behalf.
that's how it's been ever since you made your mark in the universe, and so it really is understandable the uproar created by those in and out of attendance when the one who went collect the two awards wasn't the esteemed director, but a completely unfamiliar person; you.
you are definitely younger than they originally thought, having believed it must have been someone of a senior status of sorts to have consistently created such masterpieces. all eyes are trained on you as you step on stage and into the limelight for the first time, the light enhancing your features and formal attire when approaching the mic with a small flashcard in hand. your mouth opens, and the audience leans in with baited breaths as they await your first words.
...only for nothing to come out.
everyone watches a little dumbfounded as you try to talk once more but, aside from gaping like a fish, your efforts remain futile. it doesn't take long for you to clamp your mouth and eyes shut, even raising the awards in front of you in an attempt to shield your face from the crowd.
you... you were just really shy. or maybe a little...socially awkward, perhaps...? if this was the reason you never showed yourself, then they're beginning to understand why...
it passes in a blur — quite literally in that of brown. one moment you are alone on the stage, the next you have the presence of the renown director standing slightly in front of you, as though acting as a shield from the many prying eyes.
"apologies," he begins, his usual smile on display, "but my dearest composer has been suffering with a sore throat these past few days. on their behalf, we thank you all kindly for your support in our work."
and then he swiftly leaves with you tucked under and shielded by his coat, murmuring unreadable words to you as you both disappear backstage and leave everyone in a state of frenzy; to both those inside the ceremonial hall, and to those watching live elsewhere.
(it was only discovered after the awards ceremony concluded what the director had said to you, with the uploader being dubbed as a holy saint for their contributions to society. while the visual aspects of the video itself were not the clearest, barely anyone had it within themselves to complain when the audio was clear as crystal:
"and here i thought you were going to be brave and face your stage fright after all that pep-talk you gave yourself on the way here."
"i'm sorry... i really thought i could do it this time..."
"now, now, i'm merely teasing. you made a big step just making an appearance here today. i know how much courage this took for you, and i'm proud of you for facing it."
"really...?"
"but of course. i'm always proud of you, [name]. there is not a moment where i haven't been.")
(it also was not long until the cosmos was taken by storm when various pictures snapped during the awards ceremony spread. the millions of candids featuring you were one of the most liked and shared, with the top spot joined by the sequence of pictures taken of mr reca's soft expression when watching you onstage, into his realisation of your predicament, into him running onstage and shielding you from the cameras when making your way backstage.)
(...the drastic influx of fan accounts dedicated to both you alone and to you and reca should really be a studied phenomenon.)
#sophie talks : concepts <3#also reader plays the paino for reca when coming up with original scores and songs while he merely gazes with sickeningly soft and#lovestricken eyes while adding his own thoughts to the composition and sometimes playing alongside you and i think thats very very sweet#but um... this was supposed to be a one or two paragraph brainrot 🧍♀️and now its a fic 🧍♀️ why does this always happen 🧍♀️#man... smth has happened to me since mr reca became real... the brain has been rewired.... ohjg#okay but anyWAY composer!reader x mr reca would be such a cute concept and i have many many thoughts on their bg and dynamic ;w;#mr reca x reader#honkai star rail x reader#hsr x reader#mr reca x you#honkai star rail x you#hsr x you
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save me bonnie isat… bonnie isat… save me…
woah what!!! isat fanart with color??? preposterous. greyscaled versions under the cut!! (and also the last doodle without the crusty old drawing next to it!! incase you want to use it for anything)
anyways. uh. scampers away like a little rat
#marshdoodles#isat#in stars and time#haha so maybe if i schedule this to post after i fall asleep the Anxiété in my brain won’t blow me up#<- guy who is about to explode#first time posting art on tumblr woooo#and it only took. a year and a half#and a month of telling people that i’ll definitely post art soon#but anyways hi to anyone who recognizes me from isatcord!!#i’ve been in fandom before but i’ve never had the courage to actually. engage?? with people??#but talking to people in the server has been really nice??? you guys are so friendly??#so um#thanks for the warm reception!!! and the patience!! god i’ve kept yall waiting#hopefully by the time i wake up i’ll be less nervous
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Jaiden: How did you guys even find out that, um... Chayanne's admin plays Cucurucho? [Reading chat] Ohhh, accidentally played the soundboard as Chayanne? That's hilarious actually. I wanna see the clip of Phil reacting to that.
Jaiden: I love– I love the way that Phil laughs, it's just such a hearty, genuine laugh. The few times that I've made him laugh, I've felt really good about myself! [Embarrassed laugh] Because he makes me feel much funnier than I am, you know?
Jaiden talks about silly QSMP moments and laughter. 💜
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Jaiden: How did you guys even find out that, um... Chayanne's admin plays Cucurucho? Did they just tell- tell Phil? Did- were they just hangin' out? [Reading chat] "The same username"? Ohhh. [Reading chat] "It was a mistake"? ...Wait, what was the mistake? What do you mean "it was an accident"?
Jaiden: Ohhh, accidentally played the soundboard [Laughs] as Chayanne? That's hilarious actually. [Laughs] What di- what did he say, was he just like, "Ha ha ha"? [Laughs]
[Old clip of Bad, Fit, and the Eggs] Bad: –have one of the things I'm looking for. Chayanne: [Cucurucho voice] HA HA HA Bad: What was that? Fit: You heard that too, right? Chayanne: [Cucurucho voice] NO Bad: ...What the fudge was that. Fit: Wait–
Jaiden: [Reading chat] "He said 'no'" [Laughs] That's so funny. [Laughs] I wanna see the clip of Phil reacting to that. I love– I love the way that Phil laughs, it's just such a hearty, genuine laugh.
[Clip of Phil laughing]
Jaiden: The few times that I've made him laugh, I've felt really good about myself! [Embarrassed laugh] Because he makes me feel much funnier than I am, you know?
[Old clip of Phil and Jaiden] Jaiden: Oh, that's awesome! And then it– [She gets snagged by the machine] Jaiden: Oh– Ahh! Phil: Be careful! Jaiden: AAAAAᵃᵃᵃᵃᵃᵃ — [Her screams fade as she's dragged away] Phil: [Laughs] There she goes! [Hits his desk and laughs]
[Another old clip plays] Jaiden: [Singing along to "It's Been So Long" from FNAF] It's been so long, since I've last seen my– Phil: What is happening? [Laughs, then laughs more seeing Jaiden's mask] PFTTT– [Laughs] Jaiden: [Laughing] Phil: Jesus Christ–
Jaiden: It's just like, such a good laugh! I wish I had a– a like, more-hearty laugh. You know? You know what I'm talking about? My laugh is kinda like... Uh, you know how you guys compare Foolish's laugh to like, the... window cleaner? Like a– [Squeaky window-cleaning sound]
[Short clip of Foolish covering his face with one hand and making the squeaky laugh he's known for, slapping the arm of his chair as he keeps laughing]
Jaiden: I can't do it– [Laughs] It doesn't sound like that. I think mine is like... Because like, I do like, "Hee hee hee!" and I also like, breathe in, like– [Squeaky sound] You know? So I think– My laugh kinda just sounds like... Like, after you spray the window, and you're like, cleaning it. Like, wiping it down with a cloth. You know? That's what my laugh sounds like. I wish it was more of like a, "Ha ha ha."
[Short clip of Cucurucho saying "HA HA HA"]
Jaiden: But, I mean, I'm not complaining. I don't think– I don't think "laugh anxiety" is something that I wanna– is not a path I would really wanna go down. [Quiet laugh] It's like- sometimes, you just gotta pick your battles. [Laughs]
Jaiden: [Reading chat] "You have a good laugh" Thank you. [Quiet laugh]
#Jaiden Animations#QSMP#Philza#Foolish Gamers#Cucurucho#QSMP Admins#(Sorta)#Phil#Jaiden#Foolish#September 5 2023#Timestamp: 13m 15s#Is this clip a little quiet? I can't tell if my clips are too quiet or if it's a me problem#Anyway – I've been thinking about this clip for AGES and finally stumbled across the timestamp the other day#Jaiden's got a nice laugh but I don't know how I'd describe it either#Anyways re: her comments; Phil does have a very hearty laugh. It's very warm and does make you smile#And since we're talking about laughs –#Quackity's another person whose laugh is very contagious#Pac's makes me smile too but I'll admit that's because I'm extremely biased#I'm rambling here but#If I were to very summarize those three's laughs (with my very biased opinion as a long-time viewer of 2 of them) I'd say:#Phil's laugh is very warm and friendly - and like Jaiden said - genuine#Quackity's laugh is very bubbly (for lack of a better word) It has so much energy you can't help but crack a smile too#Pac's laugh when he's embarrassed is very cute and it makes me smile
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redstone supervisor
#redraw of some old art#ethubs how i missed u#also experimenting w light bdubs redesigns#and im coming to the realization that im just making both their hair more. anime.#idk i just think bdubs w a lowkey emo spiky haircut eats#omg anyone who left nice tags in my last post and remembered me ILYSM#i never really talked here just posted my art and only yapped in the tags#if anyone is wondering where i disappeared..... esports#LOL#to twt cuz tumblr has like no action on that front#im still in it! if u care abt vct my art acc there is murkyburakh#the offseason has been dry lately so etho called to me#and bdubs#actually i started catching up on his episodes first#cuz building cool#i havent watched wild life or finished secret life idk if i will cuz ngl i just liked the series more when it was simple boogeyman stuff#or maybe i'm just hung up on last life and nothing will top it for me who knows#i'm still an incurable tags yapper i guess#anyways happy new year everynyan!!#ethubs#ethoslab#bdubs#hermitshipping#my art
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double ?? upload ???? yeaaaahh i've gotten FASTERRrr for whatever that's worth so complementary blyla because guess what i miss them too (nobody was surprised by that)
#star wars#clone wars#star wars the clone wars#blyla#artists on tumblr#listen i just have a thing for jedi + clones it seems and we cannot forget dartain the ogs (i will draw that tonight + tomorrow not now)#tcw made aayla so cool bro i love her#can you tell i've been on a mellon_soup kick !! i love her references so much bro#one day i will draw foxiyo. that day may be tomorrow i don't know#prequel-era ships are elite sorry everything else is Lame except for han/leia rebelcaptain and kanera (reylo's fine ig)#tcw is also the only thing that salvages anidala for me however! this is not an anidala post i am getting so off-topic whoa#i am unmedicated.#anyway yayyyy double upload#by the way in my head the accelerated aging thing just straight-up doesn't exist#cuz it's one of the dumbest things star wars has ever done i think it just doesn't make sense#anyway ^^)b#listen i'm not ALWAYS gonna go the cheap route and do the gradient thing instead of color i just don't wannaaaa. too much work#“jedi can't have attachments!!!!” and you can't have fun apparently#besides attachment and .-+ love +-. are different things and the jedi USED to know that before they contracted stupid disease#aayla secura#commander bly#would've drawn bly's armor cause it's cool but friiiick dude i already did it for rex and I AIN'T DOIN' IT AGAIN#(will do it again for darman because i'm a masochist)#hey. he's a commando it's different#at least i finally get to throw my etain headcanons into the ring#why am i talking about other ships on a blyla post. whatever#i'll color something eventually. sketching is just significantly easier and more fun#actually scratch that heck y'all i'll do what i wanna do#(affectionate dw)#my art
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♫ I do what I want/Crying in the bleachers and I said it was fun/I don't need anything from anyone ♫
(ID in Alt) you guys ever think about your own posts and get upset?? Anyway Damian Wayne I love you I'm so sorry your life is like that
#dc comics#dc#damian wayne#dc robin#batman and robin#alfred pennyworth#dick grayson#bruce wayne#lyrics are ofc from American Teenager by ethel cain#the lyrics are a bit too specific to specifically be a damian song and the verses talk about like. christian church and substance abuse#but thag chorus???? ohhhh baby#its also stephcore btw. to me at least#ANYWAY this took. forever and i did while feeling sick/off in the run up to my period so frankly it's a miracle it got finished at all#but yknow for now im fairly happy w this one. played around w the colours and challenged myself to really put my all into the linework#there's some details here n there that r wrong (failsafes design is. all kinds of wonky) but like. who give a shit#anyway my brain and hands are on vacation for the next few days <3#btw the blood on damians hands is a reference to the upcoming B&R cover (for 11 or 12 i think?) where damians-#-beating the living daylights out of bane. B&R has mostly been chill n slow so far but these issues...ohhh i am SEATED#uhh anyway yeah <3#OH WAIT#mine#< haha. art tag i always forget
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Eddie, sharing way too much with his Tiktok following: One time when the band was recording an album in Australia, I was having sex in the kitchen of my rental and-
Eddie: Balls d- no, don’t wanna say that. In the middle of it, my boyfriend-at-the-time says, ‘what do you think these countertops are made out of?’
Eddie:
Eddie: Anyways, that’ll humble ya.
#Mike: The fact that you sensored yourself a little bit tells me that you could’ve not posted this at all#Eddie’s fault. Can’t do stuff like that with a guy obsessed with kitchens#anyways best kitchen Steve’s ever been in was Eddie and Wayne’s back in Forest Hills#Steve said stop saying my name when you talk about dumb shit we used to do#and Eddie said ‘bet’ and now has his fans wondering if he and Steve have ever broken up before or if he’s admitting to cheating#eddie munson tiktok saga#eddie munson
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so much happened in this whole episode but i’m still on fig infiltrating ruben’s dream, making it look like the place where his friend was murdered, and then disguising herself as kipperlilly & repeatedly saying different variants of “somebody needs to take the fall for this, and it’s not going to be me. it’s going to be you.” while adaine as the elven oracle shows up next to her. can you imagine waking up from that, the idea of a horrible truth being pinned on you by your friend to save her own skin while the personification of fate and destiny stands there, almost as a promise that this is GOING to happen to you. we don’t even know if this kid is guilty. my god.
#fantasy high#dimension 20#fhjy#fhjy spoilers#fantasy high junior year#fig faeth#ruben hopclap#lucy frostblade#the rat grinders#adaine abernant#kipperlilly copperkettle#watching fig terrorize him like girl!!! we don’t even know if he’s guilty!!!!#this might just be for me but i do not think 5 teenagers willingly brutally killed their friend idk#like there just has to be some other element to it and i am very scared to find out what that was#what if they were put in a position where they felt there was/there was no other choice… like oh my god#my comedy brain is having fun but my ‘this is a teenager’ brain is in such deep distress all the time this season#the rat grinders i trust brennan to not make u cartoonishly evil so i am holding u as gently as i can in my confused shaky hands#also with the devil’s nectar i’ve been wondering why they all seem so well-adjusted & now i’m curious if they’ve been intentionally-#changing their memories in a way so that either the trauma is lesser or they think they aren’t guilty. idk#but it seems like from how gertie was talking she was making it more recently so the well adjustedness from early jy doesn’t quite add up#they could have another source maybe??? idk i’m just low stakes 4 a.m. spitballing here#there’s also the strong possibility that they’re aware of what happened but they weren’t the ones who killed lucy. idk who knows#the way you could probably devil’s nectar yourself into believing it wasn’t your fault someone died… CRAZY IMPLICATIONS!!! CRAZY IDEA!!!#anyways the bad kids & the rat grinders don’t ever have to like each other but i do wonder if at least some of those kids deserve a chance
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something something white sheep luo binghe
#svsss#scum villain's self saving system#scumbag villain#luo binghe#or uhhh ig#luo bingge#scum villain#mxtx#fanart#digital art#my art#svsss fanart#chirin no suzu#ringing bell#this has prolly been done before but look at him...chirin lookin ass#something something cycles of abuse idk#anyway svsss enjoyers do not follow me cause i literally never talk/draw about it lol
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Clover is stupid. heart emoji
#undertale yellow#uty#clover uty#lucky clover au#flowey#flowey ut#the cowboy hat draws#Yeah this was inspired by the post talking about how the justice soul has skill issues. Yeah it took me that long to draw#Been going through a bad art funk. Tried experimenting with brushes and shading styles here#Don't love how these turned out but hey art is done!#Gonna try and get back in the saddle I wanna start posting Deltarune Yellow things LOL#Anyways Clover is so dumb (affectionate)#I like to think they pick up on Starlo's show off tendencies and try to impress people with random skills they don't have
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sometimes, Mydei fucks you slow, and deep, and sensual—a reminder that there is no promised tomorrow, because while his body remains immortal, yours does not... and for that, he leaves the brute shows of strength and spirit on the battlefield. Here in the sanctum of the bedroom, he finds idolatry on your body and salvation in your lips; ravishing every inch of skin, until he finds a home at your hips and in your cunt, as he folds your form in half. Curling your knees to your head, as he sinks himself inside you, every inch accompanied by whispered praises, every thrust—long and languid—accompanied by the promise of a new Kremnoan heir.
#spreading my 'mydei has a gentle heart' agenda because#i've been digging into his lore and talking to npcs‚ and i think he is quite compassionate even if he does not outwardly show it#he is a softie....TO MEEEEE#<- so yah consider this a disclaimer Lol now get this freak away from me before i fall in love#anyways...needed a breather from writing the phainon fic so have this thirst instead haha#mydei x reader#mydei smut#..⊹࣪˖ ꒰ thirsts ꒱
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When the youngest sibling becomes the oldest :)
Q&A (as asked by my sister and me to myself)
Q: Why is Time wearing his kokiri clothes while everyone else is just in smaller versions of their regular outfits?
A: Time came prepared for a situation exactly like this. shrunken or not child him is not wearing that armor (i didnt want to draw it)
Q: Why is Wind lecturing Legend?
A: He tried to grab a fire rod
Q: Why are they all children except for Wind?
A: I thought it would be funny. Maybe a wizzrobe did it. Maybe blue stalfos from oracle of ages showed up. Maybe there was an incident with Purah's de-aging rune. Who knows I'm just the artist here
#linked universe#lu fanart#lu sky#lu wild#lu hyrule#lu wind#lu twilight#lu legend#lu time#lu warriors#lu four#lu chain#soo many characters to tag..#my art#almost forgot that. that tags important.#anyways tags done now i can talk. this is one of the most ambitious things i have drawn in a while#had a lot of fun drawing this! children are fun to draw. they r all very silly.#fun fact i sketched this out on new years i think. around then. middle of the night. very vague sketch its very funny to look at#i havent worked with this much color in forever...ive been doing pen sketches for so long#and then mostly monochromatic pencil for months for school before that...its so hard color is so hard.#anyways i like sky in the background. baby four is my favorite part though and is has been through this whole thing#i do also like baby twilight. speaking of which if the wip i posted ends up with more notes than this i am going to be upset.#anyways up also . shout out to winds hand the one thats up it took me one million years. but it looks good#directors note warriors was supposed to have a hand visible in a fist but i gave up on that. baby hands are easy though its just blobs#in the vague shape of a hand.#id in alt text#if anythings wrong with the designs um i only looked at reference a little.
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post battle, one last short rest
#calliope petrichor#solum bufo#calder kilde#naddpod#ba2mia#ba2umia#posts by me dot com#i was rlly . not ... satisfied w this piece but i know its probably .. fine so im shoving it out there#but . hehe . aa ....#im a lil busy but . wanted to do at least one last little send off art for duck team bcus uh.#well tag ramble but . this campaign has meant a lot to me and i am... really really sad to see it go#im glad we got the ending we did and overall this campaign has absolutely been my favourites start to finish#but still. gonna miss it a lot.#it was really fun making art w all a yall and talking abt duck team together :-]#hehe . im being sappy over here but u know what its YOUR FAULT reading the tags is OPTIONAL . WHATEVER LOSER . *skateboards away*#thanks to everyone whos responded so positively n enthusiastically to the silly lil drawings ive made ^_^ .!!!!! <3 u#its been a great year >:] to get really fucking hyperfixated in this bitch. anyway. yeehaw . omnomnom. happy hoglidays#anyway um. HASHTAG 2025 GRINCH DUCKTEAM ONE SHOT CMON CMON LETS GOOO PLEEASE.
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i have one video i've been wanting to make about a certain splatoon lore topic so badly for some years now and i wanna do it soon. but every time i think about it i can feel myself going insane. there's so much i need to say. how do i structure this in a way that makes sense. does it even make sense at all. to me? god help me
#rassicas speaks#spoilers: yep its the water thing.#stares haggardly at mirror with my hands white knuckle gripping on the sides of the bathroom sink. splashes water in my face#i feel like ive cracked open a fucking conspiracy. ITS ALL CONNECTED ITS ALL FUCKING CONNECTEDDDDD I FEEL INSANE#stares at my corkboard with strings. punches wall#the water weakness is not as stupid and disjointed as everyone thinks and i have to prove it.#the disconnect between the west and JP in terms of acceptance of the water weakness lore is fucking insane#there's a video from a edutainment quiz youtuber in JP. not a splatuber mind you. that talks about osmosis and how it connects to inklings#the canon explanation mind you. this video has a million views!!!#a million fucking views!! its a video for casuals!! everyone knows inklings canonically die in water and the reason is related to osmosis!!#meanwhile if you bring up the concept of inklings dying in water on the western side with hopes to theorize according to canon lore#and i will. present the dev interview that outright confirms the reason is related to osmosis.#u know what happens. um actually they only die in fresh water! um no they dont die in water they just cant swim! DO U KNOW HOW INSANE I FEE#jp side has been speculating on how the osmosis thing actually works on inkling biology for years#and the english side cant even get over the hurdle that the water weakness is like. real undeniable canon#like i get that info is less accessible here. as i will prove. in my video eventually.#but holy fuck it makes me crazyyyyy when i actually do present stuff and ppl cover their ears anyway. this has happened a lot.
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