#Anti morrigan

[kataraavatara]

i saw a post about mor rocking up to hewn city in a scandalous outfit to flex on everyone there that she isn’t a victim of a forced marriage and gets to wear what she wants and is the top dog of the Night Court. It reminded me of something and i couldn’t put my finger on it. and then i realized.

[spacerockfloater]

The way people switched on Tamlin the moment Rhys was introduced is diabolical.

“Tamlin never really loved Feyre, it was all a trick from the start”: It is stated that Tamlin was disgusted by the idea of forcing someone to fall in love with him and considered it slavery, but ended up being so in love with her that he ultimately lets her go and choses her freedom and safety over that of his own people. Rhys confirms that Tamlin loved Feyre too much. And he loved her truly. Not because he had to. Tamlin treated Feyre with dignity when she was engaged to him. He introduced her as his lady, to be respected and cherished by all. And she really was loved by his people, too. Rhysand uses her as his lap dog to scare Hewn City and parades her as his whore.

“Tamlin never did anything for Feyre, he just used her”: He improved her and her family’s life in every aspect and offered her everything he had.

“Tamlin had sex with someone else in Calanmai”: Out of duty and responsibility because he didn’t want to force Feyre, who still wasn’t sure about her feelings, into it. All of the High Lords perform the Calanmai. Lucien says so. How convenient that this is never brought up with Rhysand. He surely does perform it as well. All the theories in here, “Lucien doesn’t know what he’s talking about/ This is a SC ritual only/ He probably just passes the duty on to someone else” are just a way for people to villainise Tam and glorify Rhys again. All of them inaccurate. The Calanmai is canonically performed by every High Lord. There’s no evidence that proves otherwise. As the son of one High Lord and the ambassador of another, Lucien would know. He is 500 years old. It’s just more convenient for SJM to never bring this up again because it raises the question of “Who was Rhysand fucking all these years?” and it makes her favourite character look bad. And once he is engaged to her, Tamlin flat out refuses to do it. Let’s be real for a second.

“Tamlin didn’t help Feyre under the mountain”: He literally could not. He was bound by a curse. He was forced to be Amarantha’s consort and a consort cannot oppose you. His powers were bound. Alis warns Feyre that Tamlin will not be able to help her. Stop acting as if he didn’t want to help her. He decapitated Amarantha the moment he got his autonomy back. Claiming that there’s no proof that Tamlin was under the influence of a spell when he literally didn’t break the curse and Amarantha’s magic didn’t allow him to use his powers is crazy. And even if he tried, he could never provide actual help. We see this when he begs Amarantha for Feyre’s life. Him showing he cares about her would only make Amarantha more jealous and vicious towards Feyre.

“Tamlin made out with Feyre instead of helping her”: He couldn’t help her run away. No one could do that. She would never make it, Amarantha would find her. In fact, Tamlin specifically could not help her in any way. He could only assure her he still wants and loves her. And she wanted that just as much. Rhys abused her physically, mentally, verbally, drugged her and much worse. And he enjoyed all of it. If he didn’t want to raise suspicions, he wouldn’t have placed a bet in her favour. Rhys is a sadist, SJM just decided to mellow him down in the next book so that we’d all like him over Tamlin.

“Tamlin ignored Feyre’s wishes and only wanted her to be his bride, he didn’t let her be High Lady”: Both Tamlin and Feyre were bad communicators going though trauma and Tam had a whole court to care for. Tamlin was unaware of how Feyre felt because she barely spoke up once. Rhys knew because he literally lived inside her head and had all the time in the world to focus his attention on her since his court suffered zero consequences during Amarantha’s reign. And Tamlin simply told her the truth: there’s no such thing as High Lady. Even her current title is given to her by Rhys, the magic of Prythian has not actually chosen her to be High Lady. The title and its power are decorative. And she said she didn’t want that anyway.

“Tamlin locks Feyre up and uses his magic to harm her”: He locks her in his humongous palace to keep her safe, after she just came back from the dead and his worst enemy is kidnapping her every month, while he runs off to protect his borders. Rhysand locks Feyre in a fucking bubble. Tamlin loses control of his magic. He doesn’t want to harm her. That’s not abuse. Abuse is intentional. Feyre and Rhysand lock Lucien and Nesta up. They lock the people of the Hewn City up in a cave. Feyre loses control of her magic and harms Lucien’s mother. Double standards I guess.

“Tamlin is a bad and conservative ruler”: Tamlin is such a beloved ruler that his sentries literally begged to die for him. Feyre had to fuck with their minds to finally turn them against him. They were his friends. He was so progressive that the lords fled his court once he became their ruler because he wouldn’t put up with their bullshit like his father did. He loved all of his people. He is against slavery. The Tithe was just tax collection. Rhysand practically rules over just one city, while ignoring Hewn City and Illyria. He treats 2/3 of his realm like shit and everyone except the residents of Velaris hates him. He collects tax, too, but we conveniently never see this. He ranks the members of his inner circle (my 1st, my 2nd etc.) and reminds them every moment that they are his slaves first and anything else second, while Tamlin treats them equally and even gives Lucien an official title by naming him Ambassador.

“Tamlin conspired with Hybern”: He was a double agent and his short lived alliance, two weeks all in all, not only didn’t harm a single soul, but ultimately saved all of Prythian as he was the only one who brought valuable information to that meeting. He dragged Beron to battle. Rhysand’s alliance with Amarantha harmed thousands and only helped save one city, Velaris.

“Tamlin is responsible for turning Nesta and Elain into Fae”: No, that was Ianthe, who got the info from Feyre. Tamlin was fooled by her, just as Feyre obviously was, or she wouldn’t have trusted her. Tamlin was disgusted by that act.

“Tamlin is less powerful than Rhysand”: Rhysand himself says that a battle between them would turn mountains to dust. Tamlin killed Rhysand’s dad, the previous High Lord of the Night Court, in one blow. He is just as powerful as Rhysand. SJM again just wants us to believe otherwise. And he is smarter, too. He was the only one not to trust Amarantha. And he was a good spy for Prythian against Hybern.

All of these takes are cold as fuck. SJM was testing the waters with ACOTAR and she made sure the main love interest, Tamlin, was insanely likeable, so that the book could be a satisfactory standalone story in case she couldn’t land a trilogy deal. She didn’t know it would be such a big hit. But once she realised she could turn this into a franchise, she had to figure out a new story to tell. She may claim otherwise, but there’s just too many plothotes to convince me. And in order to make her new main love interest seem like the best choice, she had to character assassinate the old one. There was no other way. ACOTAR Rhys was too much of an evil monster to be loved by the majority of the audience. But Tamlin was introduced to us as such a heroic and passionate man that is literally impossible to turn him into someone despised by all. Feyre’s relationship with Rhysand reads too much like cheating on Tamlin. That’s why anyone with basic analytical skills is able to realise the flaws of the narration.

[lady-selenee]

Why are so many people hating on Jurian? What did he do that was so bad?

He killed a woman who owned slaves? Given that Rhysand and the inner circle also fought in that war, I'd say they've done the same. AND THAT WOMAN OWNED (AND PROBABLY KILLED AND TORTURED) HUMANS.

He tortured her? Guess what? Azriel's job is to torture people, and most of the readers don't hate him.

He pretended to work with Hybern? Didn't Rhysand pretend to be loyal to Amarantha?

Jurian fought (and died) to free humans from slavery. He probably has statues built around the mortal kingdoms! So why so many people don't also hate the inner circle for doing the same things, but only Jurian?

[hugevanserrass]

reread the solstice scene from acofas and was surprised at how pleasant nesta was the entire time. from the way people talk about it, and from Cassian's reaction after she leaves, you'd think she was hissing and insulting everyone in the room. but no.

nesta wishes feyre happy birthday, she thanks elain for her gifts, and sits quietly, allowing them to continue with their presents. meanwhile mor gives cassian silk boxers that match the lingerie set he got her. nesta even kisses elain on the head before she leaves. she is 100% polite.

the next chapter is Cassian's pov and it starts with "he'd had enough. enough of the coldness, the sharpness. enough of the sword-straight spine and razor-sharp stare that had only honed itself these months"

BRO SHE WAS JUST SITTING THERE

[hrizantemy]

I’m sorry, but Rhysand saying “neither side was innocent” during the conversation with the mortal queens in ACOMAF, when the subject of fae enslaving humans was brought up, is one of the most egregious lines in the series — and it’s rarely discussed with the weight it deserves.

Let’s unpack that: he is speaking to a group of human women, representing the very group of people who were enslaved by fae for centuries, and when they bring up this long history of subjugation, torture, rape, and death, his response is to essentially say, “Well, both sides were bad.”

That is victim-blaming. That is revisionist history. That is colonialist rhetoric.

It’s no different than saying, “Well, the enslaved people fought back sometimes, so it wasn’t just the slavers who were wrong.” Rhysand, who wants to be painted as this morally enlightened, progressive High Lord, essentially minimizes the suffering of an entire species—the one his mate used to be a part of, no less—because acknowledging that the fae were uniquely cruel would be an inconvenient truth. He doesn’t show remorse. He doesn’t even offer an ounce of compassion.

Instead, he offers the oldest excuse in the book of abusers and empires: “It was mutual.”

No, it wasn’t. The fae were the enslavers. The humans were enslaved. Power imbalance matters. Scale and systems matter. And for Rhysand — who was alive during that time — to not only fail to acknowledge it, but dismiss it outright, is a massive moral failing.

What makes it worse is how it lines up with everything we’ve come to understand about how he views humans. Rhysand might love Feyre, but he doesn’t love humans. He doesn’t mourn their culture, their history, or what was taken from them. In fact, he only seems to acknowledge humans when it’s politically convenient (like trying to leverage Feyre’s mortal roots or the war). Otherwise, they’re an afterthought at best, disposable at worst.

And the fandom just…lets him get away with it.

There is no growth. No nuance. Just a man who calls himself “feminist” and “progressive” while upholding the very structures that oppressed entire peoples — and gaslighting them about it.

So yeah, “neither side was innocent”? I’m sorry, but what the actual fuck.

[roxan1930]

Kinda tempted to writ a what-if fic where in Silver Flames, when Nesta is given the "choice" to either get locked up in the HoW or being send to the human lands with the expectation to die there, she actually chooses the human lands, saying death would be better than surrounded by obnoxious hypocritical narcisists.

Feyre and Cassian would right away try to backtrack and just want to forced her to the HoW, only for Rhysand to be, "done" and just winnow her to the border and leave.

Back at the NC Feyre and Cassian would be pissed but Rhys just tells them he'll have eyes (not Azriel(he doesn't and hopes she'll just die and plans to pretend the pragnancy made him forget, even while also lying to Feyre about that)) on Nesta, along with some more manipulation and gaslighting till they just give in.

Nesta meanwhile tries to avoid being seen, but soon get's discovered and has to run from a mob, only to get saved by Lucien and Jurian.

They take her back to their manor where she's just in time to see Vassa transform from bird to woman.

She explains what happened and the BoE is disgusted with Feysand and their groupies and offer Nesta to stay with them and she accepts.

Slowly she gets better as she's treated by respect by the BoE and becomes friends with every member in some way (meeting sassy Lucien, mocking spoiled human lordling sons and daughters they grew up surrounded by with Vassa and talking about SMUT books, training with Jurian on her OWN CHOICE after watching him a few times and being offered to join, and all of them just being sarcastic and teasing each other.

They'd also discuss and ask her opinion on political matters( since, like many say, she was right away more suited and courtier than warrior)

When The IC finds out, first Cassian tries to get her back, only to be denied by Nesta and when he doesn't listen to her, get's send away by BoE.

He keeps coming around but keeps getting send away and Azriel starts spying and constantly reports moments where Nesta's happy and Cassian feels jealous of Lucien and Jurian, Feyre of Vassa for being sister-like with Nesta, and Elain of Vassa and also Nesta for being close to her mate.

Maybe have Eris coming over more often too and flirt with Nesta who flirts back, making Cassian worse.

At some point, Cassian get's told by Lucien he's a worthless matee who doesn't care about Nesta and will always easily put the IC over her, and Nesta confirms that while she likes (or liked?) him, he's not what she needs until he actually changes

She also, since she doesn't need to rely on the NC for protection, tears into Feyre for her I-always-did-everything-while-my-sisters-did-nothing attitude, mentioning all kinds of things she did that Feyre ignored and how she's become a selfish obnoxious hypocrite that flaunts money and laughs at those less fortunate.

Also at Elain for always sitting on her ass and being useless and trying to act like the victim after always having Nesta take care of her and protect her, yet turning her back on her as soon as she needed Elain to take care of her for once. Maybe also tear into her for being a bitch to Lucien and saying he deserves better than her.

In the end ereryone does get better but I don't know how yet.

[extremely-judgemental]

Feyre: What's going on with Azriel, Cassian, and Mor? Rhysand: We don't meddle 🙂

Feyre: Can we break up Lucien and Elain? Cauldron could be wrong. Rhysand: We don't meddle 🙂

Feyre: But Azriel and Elain would be so good for aesthetics! Rhysand: We don't meddle 🙂

Feyre: Lucien is Helion's son! Rhysand: We don't meddle 🙂

Nesta: *lives alone, drinks, fucks around* Feyre: Maybe we should leave her alone. Rhysand: EVERYBODY LINE UP. Here's your token.

[wingsdippedingold]

Almost all of the main romances in ACOTAR being interracial in some way is insane.

Almost all of them are brown man x white woman. Most of them are Illyrian, besides Lucien, and even then, he’s a technically a brown man.

Obviously half of the important characters are Illyrians, BUT when they’re the only Illyrians it becomes an issue. We have ONE important ambiguous brown woman. Not to mention SJM’s treatment of black people.

SJM’s fetishization of the “exotic” and “primal” brown person is plastered throughout the books, I’m surprised so many people try to deny it. It is very obvious her and many other romantasy authors only care about POC for their sex value.

Even with Emorie; Emerie is a woman, but she still suffers from the masculinization of Illyrians, something constantly done to black and brown women. Her dating Mor, a white woman who looks down on Emerie’s race, IS problematic even if it is a lesbian relationship.

[litnerdwrites]

There's no indication that anybody from Velaris is, or has the ability to become, a soldier for the night court. The only soldiers we see are darkbriners and Illyrians. Velaris has also been warded two times over to keep it hidden (even though nobody knew it existed anyway). There's also no indication that either Illyria or THC have access to the library in Velaris, or have any similar resourced (even though they are the only places that provide the NC soldiers, and, by the IC's own admission, rife with misogyny and abuse towards woman and children).

The ones who suffered under Amarantha's reign were Illyria and the Hewn City. Exclusively. The ones who fight to protect the Night Court are Illyria and The Hewn City. Exclusively. The ones who were orphaned and widowed by war (up until Velaris was attacked in ACOMAF for the FIRST TIME IN 5000 YEARS (which we can assume was when it was built)) was Illyria and The Hewn City. Exclusively.

Velaris has no slums. The Illyrians live in tents.

Velaris was by no means poor, its people mostly cared for, the buildings and streets well kept. My sister, it seemed, had managed to find the only thing relatively close to a slum. (ACOFAS Chapter 4)

And yet my sister managed to find the seediest, most miserable taverns in Velaris (ACOFAS Chapter 12)

Rhysand talked to the 'governors of the Palaces' and getting them to refuse service to the people from the Court of Nightmares.

“Starting with meeting with the governors of the Palaces and getting them to agree never to serve, shelter, or entertain Keir or anyone from the Court of Nightmares.” (ACOWAR Chapter 27)

“They have been sending out the word to every business owner in the city,” Rhys went on, “every restaurant and shop and venue. So Keir and his ilk may come here … But they will not find it a welcoming place. Or one where they can even procure lodgings.” (ACOWAR Chapter 27)

Velaris is built and protected on the blood of others. One of the only issues that they faced were a lack spices, and probably other imports, due to stopping trade for fifty years.

“It’s just … so lovely to have such spices available again—now that … that things are better.” (ACOMAF Chapter 29)

After it was all over, and Amarantha was dead, they could have reached out to other courts, offered aid and helped rebuild. Or, at minimum, they could've offered Illyria and The Hewn City, aid. They could've helped them recover. But they didn't.

Velaris protected by the blood and sacrifices of Illyria and the Hewn City. What exactly have the IC, or the people of Velaris done in exchange? Deny them service and lodging? Did nobody contest this? At all? Did nobody, in this entire city (a place that's supposed to be the only 'good' in the Nc) ever protest? Or even ask about the conditions in either Illyria or the HC?

I know that there was something similar happening in the winter court, with Viviane protecting a small city near the border, but in that case, Viviane had to stay there to keep whatever magic shielded it strong, whereas in Velaris, the city was already a secret, and shielded, so I'm still not following why he had to shield it again. Also, the city she protected took in any outsiders that made it there, and the wards on Velaris, actively encouraged people away from the city.

And in the aftermaths, there is no reason to think that Viviane, or the people of that city didn't extend their help in rebuilding The Winter Court to others who had not been as lucky. Whereas we know for a fact that neither the IC or the people/governors of Velaris didn't extend help. Instead, they agreed to help segregate the HC residents even more.

So the argument that 'Velaris is the only good place, because the The Court of Nightmares is made of monsters and Illyrians refuse to change' is bs. At this point, the only change either should make is letting the IC, and Velaris fend for themselves during the next war. There is no reason for them to lose their loved ones and spill their own blood for the people of a city that will refuse them service and lodging just because of where they're from, at the encouragement and behest of their shared monarch.

Remind me again, how and why that stupid bat should be high king? He can't even govern his own territory.

[litteraslegit]

No. of people who have claimed that Rhysand is the most powerful High Lord in Prythian:

Rhysand

Inner circle

Feyre after falling for his self-centered ass.

And no one else :)

[aphroditeofcnidus]

For books supposedly feminist the acotar series have many problematic elements.The worst and most obvious one is of course Rhysand drugging and assaulting Feyre UTM for her own "good" ,but it's not the only one.There is Cassian,who grabs Nesta's arm, because he can't help himself after seeing her in tight pants.He can't keep himself from touching a woman , because of what she was wearing.The oldest apology for rapists.Cassian stalks Nesta after the solstice party and there is no fault in this,in fact Nesta is the bitch in that situation.Both Feyre and Nesta have important information about their bodies withheld(Feyre about her pregnancy,Nesta about what her body can do).Mor is supposedly a feminist character,but is in fact a pick me girl,who doesn't hesitate to tell a traumatized woman that she would throw her to a place, where women are abused.That's because she's jealous that Cassian no longer pays attention to her,because of her and she can't use him to keep Azriel away.She has let other women, including those related to her continue to be abused at the CON and she does nothing, because she's the only dreamer to be born there.Feminism is not just about women doing traditionally male jobs,like becoming warriors.Women don't even need to do that,they can be very feminine and very strong.Nesta would be strong, whether she wore feminine dresses or Illyrian leathers.However there's nothing feminist in pairing strong female characters with male protagonists who don't respect their bodily autonomy.

[aurenturley]

The weird thing is that Nesta's trauma responses are identical to Feyre's. Feyre stops eating, drinks constantly, closes herself off, has meaningless sex with Tamlin, and so on. Similarly, Rhys, Azriel, and Mor all engaged in excessive drinking and a stream of meaningless casual sex for centuries.

Heck, Mor still does both and they all drink like fish. All of them, including Feyre and Elain, say nasty shit sometimes lashing out (weirdly, Elain lashes out at Nesta when Nesta was endlessly patient with Elain during Elain's breakdown).

Even Amen deals with her trauma similarly to Nesta, by being incredibly harsh (often worse than Nesta) and self-isolating.

Yet, Nesta is the only one that gets punished for trying to cope with her trauma.

[lady-selenee]

The High Lords' meeting proved that Sjm doesn't know how to write politics. What do you mean a ruler, his wife and his family / advisors (Rhysand, Feyre, the inner circle) insult other rulers, attack the wife of a High Lord, and nobody cares about it. The attack on LoA should have been a declaration of war. Like, even after the greater threat (Hybern) was taken care of, Night and Autumn should have been at war. Or, at least, there should have been consequences.

Take an example from history. Roman senators assassinated Julius Caesar. What happened? Those loyal to Caesar started a civil war against the assassins. Those senators were forced to flee Rome, some took their own lives after being defeated, and those who were still alive after a couple of years were granted amnesty after a peace treaty.

But what are the consequences of what the Night Court did at the meeting? It seems that there are none, especially as all the High Lords resuscitated Rhys at the end of the war. Where is the logic in that?

[theegemini92]

Feyre is not a girls girl

This is why I am praying to God Tamlins mate is exactly her opposite. She would know that being female is more powerful than being male or in their circle or picking up a sword.

[hrizantemy]

It’s genuinely amusing how Tamlin is painted as the ultimate villain in the narrative, yet before the chaos with Feyre, his entire court was ready to lay down their lives for him. Meanwhile, it’s almost comical that two-thirds of Rhysand’s court, the very individuals he relies on for military support, harbor such animosity toward him that they actively want to see him dead.

[roxan1930]

The whole "Court of Dreams" is nothing but a joke

Rhysand, the IC and later Feyre just LOVE pretending like they're such amazing freedom fighters who build paradise and it's SO gross!

But guess what? You're not even a real court, you just got ONE city where people tolerate you with the rest of your court despising your damn slutty existance!

And what "dreams"?! You have a city that's been the same for YEARS! and a outside that city you don't give a shit about what happens!

The supposed "Court of Nightmares" and "Barbarian Illarya" are so bad cause they're actively working on making those they don't like more miserable instead of ACTUALLY working on making it better for those who need help! The female Illyrians STILL get their wings clipped because the ban isn't enforced and in the Hewn City you act like Mor has always been and will always the ONLY fea miserable there and everyone else is automatically evil! And I refuse to believe there aren't any other cities or towns outside of Velaris, the Hewn City and Illarya but that the IC literally forgot existed since they aren't really causing trouble, but "don't belong in Velaris"!

And again in Velaris, it's not even THAT great a place! Just because you're ignoring it doesn't mean people there on't have problems. Nesta's literally living in slums for at least a year and they only care cause they find it embarrassing that Feyre's sister is living there, not that there are even slums at all, and as soon as they decide they want Nesta gone there, they wreck a whole building and it's never mentioned that the other's living there or around got help finding new homes! I wouldn't even be surprised if a large portion of Velaris hates the IC too for their obnoxious, pompous elitist attitude with flaunting their money around but not using it to help the poor!

And let's be honest, the people of Velaris are completely ignorant to the rest of the world! They were all shielded during Amarantha's for 50 years and lived their lives all comfy and at hearing others suddered, all have an attitude of "oh. that's too bad for them, i guess." cause most of them literally don't know anything about what happened and don't understand anything about the world.

As much as Feysand they their groupies like to act like they're SO succesfull, even the ONE place they care about it still in many ways a mess!

I really want someone to just point all of this out to their faces, preferbably in front of th other High Lords too who then actually pay attention and point out their flaws as leaders since the other HL's (except Beron) at least care about and try to manage their whole courts without antagonizing the rest