#Anti Mako

[atla-confessions]

wlw ships like Korrasami to hate on mako?

There are in-text reasons people hate Mako considering how he treated Korra and Asami. Being a canon cheater and leading people on are already character traits that make a character very controversial very quickly. From what I remember, the growing distaste for how Mako treated both the girls predated korrasami's explosion in popularity.

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[shadelorde]

you hate mako because of the forced love triangle bullshit. I hate mako because he’s a cop. we are not the same

[daughter-of-water]

its funny that you get mad about kataang ( a ship that is actually supported by the show andcharacters) while trying to defend korrasami a last minute retcon that requires making korra ooc because you have that level ofirrational hatred for mako and over reaction to him daring to have flaws emotionally immature teenager ( makos flaws were always acknowledged as such since b1) mako didnt need to be punished by ending the show single (asami got hurt and that sucked for her but its irrelevent )

ROFL, you know nothing about this blog, Mako apologist if you think I've ever defended the Korrasami ending as legitimate. I know it is hard for you to believe but thinking that Mako and Makorra are horrendously written and send the wrong message because regardless of your assertions, Mako's character flaws were not even tackled with the gravity the deserved until the final season and one cannot help but believe only done so because of rightful fanbase outcry, DOES NOT MEAN I am a Korrasami shipper. If it is irrational to have a hatred for lying and people who disregard the feelings of others for the sake of their own comfort then I am guilty as charged and glad to be so. But while we are on the subject of irrationality, you are literally getting your underpants in a twist over the fact that someone dares not to love your precious Mako or thinks his shitty behavior warrants a redemption arc where he grows as a person, apologizes to the people he wronged, and goes forward into a new relationship with someone new where he does not do that kind of shit anymore. Why are you so afraid of character development, man?

[shadelorde]

God I forgot about that interaction

“It’s hard being the avatar”

“Try being the avatar’s boyfriend”

like WHY IS THAT WRITTEN AS CUTE AND FUNNY? ID BE SO UPSET IF MY PARTNER SAID THAT TO ME.

And the way the writers play her off as a “hysterical woman” at all, but ESPECIALLY in a time where the world is about to END and her people are being forcefully evangelized. By her own fucking uncle. Not to mention that aforementioned boyfriend is saying constant snarky shit, taking on a condescending attitude with her, and ratting her out to the fucking cops.

I hate Mako.

Just a reminder that when Korra got back into town after being gone for 3 years Asami yelled at Korra for being gone when she knew damn well what she was going through during that time. Instead of being supportive and understanding, Asami made it out to be all about herself. Mako never did that. What did Mako do when he found out why she was gone for three years? “I’m here for you; what do you need?” 

[hecat-draw]

i think one of the stupidiest take i've ever seen on zutara is that makorra is the zutara ship and that it showcase why they wouldn't have worked . Like, they aren't anything alike .

[wlwmk]

Can I get your honest opinion on this? As a newbie lok viewer I was pretty disgusted by what Asami did with Mako in book 2. He helps her company, and instead of helping a friend who's dealing with a bad breakup, she uses it as an opportunity. After your friend goes off to fight in a war, you immediately invite yourself to her ex's apartment and start touching/pursuing him? And then she left him in jail. What she did was trashy and she had the audacity to act like a victim. She didn't care that she might've sabotaged their entire krew dynamics.

Did you think it was in character for Mako to respond?

This was a pivotal moment for him b/c I don't think he'll be able to carry a relationship with any woman as long as his friend is a willing side chick. That's a huge issue she created for him

(Asami being "vulnerable" is no excuse"

THIS!

and you only mentioned the bad she did to korra, while she quite literally jumped on mako, non-consensually kissed him and pursuing him while he was emotionally vulnerable due to the break up and she knew. but she just acted selfishly because she wanted some comfort, not caring about either mako or korra, and had the audacity to act like a victim and be mad at mako for not staying with her as soon korra came back and not telling korra the truth (something mako get often blamed for by the fandom, while his move was genuinely smart given the context) while she could also tell herself what happened.

all of this are straight up facts but still.. the fandom seems to love interpret asami as the ultimate victim of the romance- and as someone who participated against this discourse for years, i observed fans seems to overprotect her bc they're either projecting themselves onto her. and also colorism bc why they're blaming korra about her acts in b1 while she was at least clear about her feelings for mako and wasn't friend with asami yet so she owned nothing towards her- while contextually asami did way worse in b2, they were all friends for a year, she saw them being together for over 6 months but has no problem to pursue him as soon she learned for the break up? this stink. like she's not the fair skinned teeny whiny princess people think she is lmao

but somehow she still seen as a victim, with all the responsibility wrongfully thrown at mako, like he still has some responsibility but the constant denying of the girls responsibility in the triangle love during the show is unfair bc they were genuinely all responsible.

also i could talk on how mako is a perfect example of male victim in fictional media who aren't knowledged both in the writing and by the watchers.

[fruitydemogorgon]

HOW TO TREAT YOUR GIRLFRIEND WITH POWERS NO BORAX NO GLUE:

(with cleo and lewis from h20 just add water)

with borax and glue:

result:

[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

More Toxic Ships That Ruined A Show

I just had to add more ships that have become infamous throughout the fandom.

[wilcze-kudly]

Was Mako really willing to end his friendship with Korra, to be with Asami? Was he gonna make Bolin, break off his friendship with Korra, because he believed that she’s too jealous?

Honestly, no. I don't think he would cut her off completely.

I know it's very easy to criticise Mako for how he handled the love triangle, but it was a very complicated situation and Mako was just a young man who grew up with very little proper social interactions.

I think Mako, in his own way, just wanted everyone in the group to be happy. He liked Asami, and even if she wasn't his true love, since when is being an 18 year old and wanting to go out with a pretty girl unheard of?

Korra very clearly liked him though, and he also had feelings of his own that he didn't know how to deal with.

What you must remember is that Mako grew up in a very difficult environment, where displeasing someone could mean literal death. Naturally, he'd stray from conflict and trying to figure out his feelings would bring such conflict.

Also, he was incredibly grateful towards Asami for all her support of him and his brother. She was also the safer option. Asami is less combative than Korra and Mako got along with her easier, so if he looked at his choices through a purely dispassionate lense (something he'd be used to after his time on the streets) it would make sense to stay with Asami.

Korra's very direct attempts at pursuing him might've also made him nervous, due his previously mentioned aversion to conflict.

I do think he liked her a lot, and cared for their friendship. I don't think he'd try to cut off their relationship, unless Korra continued to (as he perceived it) put pressure on him.

In short, Mako was trying to keep the peace. He didn't do it well, because he's bad at socialising and he was under a whole lot of pressure, but he was trying.

[asura22zoro]

In Mako's defense, I don't think we should blame the whole love triangle fiasco solely on him

www . reddit . com/r/legendofkorra/comments/j42qua/in_makos_defense_i_dont_think_we_should_blame_the/

A lot of things came into play for that triangle to happen but it just so happens that Mako's need to NOT disappoint anyone (but ending up disappointing everyone) is a huge factor.

Let me just point out that whenever Mako initiated a kiss to either Korra or Asami, it was never while he's "officially" dating the other. If anything, it was often the girls who would kiss him first while knowing he's dating the other, which they both know that it is their fault too.

In Book 1, he just simply confessed his feelings for Korra while also pointing out the fact that he couldn't act on those feelings because he's dating Asami (whom he also has feeling for but possibly not to the same degree as with Korra). But Korra kisses him anyway.

In Book 2, Asami kissed him first at her warehouse when the guy is simply cheering her up and saying he believes in her even when she doesn't believe in herself. At the time, he just broke up with Korra. Sure, it was pretty recent and he's trying to not dwell too much into that by busying himself with police work but can you blame the guy for giving up trying to put up with Korra's spitfire?

Then of course, we know what came after when Korra and Mako saw each other again and Korra's memory was wiped.

Now, notice how Asami pretty much didn't try to make a move on him again after that? Even after he and Korra broke up the second time (for good)?

I think Asami pretty much realized that Mako's too not into disappointing anyone and too emotionally awkward to pursue a relationship with again. Because not only would it be awkward but going from one girl to a other twice could ruin their dynamic as a team as well as her friendship with Korra, both of which she cherish.

So, yeah, both girls ended their romantic relationships with him. (Or in Asami's case, the possibility of it.)

And this sets up to what I like most about their relationship with each other after, especially in Book 3.

Now in Book 3 starts between three of them with Korra and Asami witnessing how Mako treats their interactions like a land mine, like any moment some hard feelings might come up, and how much he wants to avoid that from happening.

Hence why he declined Korra's offer to have him live in Air Temple Island and both ladies' help with the investigation.

What Mako doesn't realize is that there's zero to no hard feelings between the two because they pretty much had an idea that both of them made a move on him while he was dating either one of them.

Asami for sure knows that Korra kissed Mako in Book 1 and Korra probably had an idea that something happened between Asami and Mako while she was away and felt embarrassed that she kissed Mako right in front of her and everyone who knew about their break up. Probably why she laughed when Asami admitted that she DID kiss him.

Because both women knew they had feelings for Mako and that the dude also reciprocates those feelings and thought "Yeah, that was awkward but maybe we can bond over that fact instead of being at each other's throats because we're also at fault and if there's a female version of bros before hoes, Mako is that emotionally awkward hoe and we won't let his people-pleasing ways get between our vibe."

( or I would put

So they both poke fun at Mako's awkwardness to loosen him up. None of that "you hurt her and you hurt me, and now you're gonna pay for it" revenge plot. I guess Mako picked up on that during their airbending performance because he wasn't uncomfortable around those two since. And I guess Mako finding out that they got away safely from the Earth Queen's airship and out of the dessert reassured him their team dynamic is still intact.

The Korra-Mako-Asami love triangle is not exactly what I would call toxic.

Fucked up? Yes. Messy? Yes. Toxic? No.

Maybe it would be toxic if, say, Mako actively pursued both women while he was in a relationship with either of them without any inhibitions or conscience to stop him from acting out his feelings for both. Like, literally cheating on them.

Instead the canon love triangle is just a clusterfrick of three developing young adults emotionally stunted by dead parent/s, becoming a parent, parental issues, and basically being sheltered for more than a decade in the middle on an icy nowhere with limited contact to the outside world.

reddit comments

Ngl I chuckled at "Mako is that emotionally awkward hoe" lmao.

After reading some of the comments... people still don't get it. The point isn't that Mako is innocent, he is far from it. But so many people just pretend like the girls didn't have an active part in the drama, especially Korra. ALL three are to blame, even if we say not equally, then Asami is still the one carrying the least of it.

If the writers had given more spotlight to Mako or at least equally as much as they did to Bolin, it would've been more apparent but I think Mako's core flaw was that he was often very indecisive in anything that wasn't bending related (he was acknowledged as talented af by Amon), or keeping his brother's ass alive. We see him mostly going with the flow, which is a problem.

But in the end he without a hesitation decides that he is willing to sacrifice himself to bring Kuvira down by overloading the spirit bomb.

As for his stick in the butt. It's for a reason. He watched his parents get killed by a firebender (missed opportunity to make him conflicted about his talents as a firebender imo). He and his brother were oprhaned and became homeless and he sacrificed a lot to keep Bolin alive. They joined a gang and I would assume that he carried most weight there, since he wanted Bolin to retain more of his innocence than he did. Their life, for Mako, didn't start turning upwards until they got to leave the triads and move into the probending scene. He shielded Bolin from a LOT in those years more than likely, just to allow him to remain his cheerful self.

So basically, Mako sacrificed his own innocence so Bolin could have his. Him being less animated, more no nonsense and more serious, makes sense because he HAD TO BE to keep themselves alive.

( I edited a few parts that I disagreed with out

so people wouldn't assume I agreed with those takes

my thoughts in regards to the makorra and k/s stuff

to be frank the b2 breakup was due to their mutual flaws not incompatibility neither of them were ready for a relationship with anyone. it was asami and korra who were incompatible with each other ( their needs and conflict styles ) while makorra overcame those mutual flaws

by book 4 and the way the book 2 breakup happened pointed to them getting back together once they overcame their mutual flaws ( and the narrative of b4 pointed to them getting back together ( for mako had gotten the love interest spot again and shown that he overcame his flaws ( they both did and shown they could argue healthily

I never really thought of korra and asami as becoming friends until b3 ( before you go but asami said she liked korra you dont need to be friends with someone to like them as a person ( I don't mean like like of course ) to be honest korrasami was a last minute retcon

they barely interacted and you cant use the censorship excuse that wouldn't justify the lack of interactions and how mako got the love interest spot

and shown that both of them overcame the mutual flaws that led to the b2 breakup and were able to argue healthily ( the issue wasn't the arguing the issue was that neither of them were able to handle it well neither of them were ready for a relationship with anyone

but by b4 the narrative pointed to the show either ending with a hint to them eventually getting back together or straight up getting back together or

I have always felt that a part of korrasamis popularity is people with the irrational hate for mako supporting it to spite and punish mako for the love triangle mess which is nonsensical

(I just have to say this that mako overcame his flaws and shown he was able to support Korra while asami didn't show that for Korra ( heck asami in remembrances wasn't able todo that tenzin needed tocome in

[jetaangxx]

Jetaang could pull a Korrasami in some AU but you're not ready for that conversation yet..

[atla-confessions]

Mako was so fucking annoying

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[hotgirlkorra]

Why do people who hate Makorra ship Wuko?

[daughter-of-water]

I have to be honest you claimed that mako was portrayed as inthe right in b1/b2 he wasnt mako not being specifically punished for his mistakes in b1 and b2 and having something good happen to him afterwards isnt the same as being treated as in the right   the notion that mako needed to be specifically punished for his mistake is bs . a character making a mistake not being specifically punished for that mistake and having something good happen to him afterwards isnt being rewarded for that flaw or being treated as in the right. mako was treated as in the wrong .

Thanks to the fact tumblr has shown me the email you are using to submit the slew of posts you’ve been bombarding me, I now know you are one singular Mako stan. Look, as I’ve stated numerous times before, I haven’t watched or cared about Legend of Korra in years nor do I really care about your precious cinnamon roll. At this point, the only reason I even bother with you at all is because you keep attacking ships I do care about, comparing your poorly written character with characters with actual depth and continuously telling me what he did in terms of romance is not bad and that I ought not feel that this scumbag is being rewarded for his shitty behavior when said scumbag does not suffer the natural consequences of it. I don’t care if you think I am unfairly vilifying Saint Mako nor WILL I EVER change my mind about him. Actually your constant flood of submissions has only served to make me more resolved in my hatred towards your favorite character. If you are sane which I suspect you are not, you will cease submitting this bullshit to me in my inbox and accept you have failed and will always fail to convince me in the righteousness of Mako let alone in his likability.   

[phoenixlivesinlimbo]

woah so effectively I've got a Phoenix Yaps Plan ready to go, hopefully starting tomorrow (Friday, 8th November). I'll be taking one character at a time and creating Venn diagrams for comparisons between them and the rest of the cast.

I'll start with Mako, because he is the Protagonist™, but once I've done all of his sheets, I'll be doing them alphabetically, so Aloisius will be next.

I'm expecting just getting through Mako's comparisons to take a while, but it will be fun, and I'll try to post as often as I can. The diagrams will be transcribed by myself naturally, because not only do I want to make these accessible for people who need screen readers, my handwriting is abysmal and I don't expect people to be able to read it.