#Anti Fandom Menace
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EFAP is what happens when people forget this dude isn't supposed to be taken seriously.
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"ANTI AANG TAKES" BINGO CARD + Fanfic ver
Well. The ultimate "Anti aang" Takes on a bingo card, go to the tag, see how much can be crossed out
Here's a fanfic version, though I don't have much experience in that section -
Yeahh...
#pro aang#aang defense squad#aang#aang meta#atla#avatar the last airbender#this shit is exhausting#Its funny asf tho#How is this even the same person?#Aang is not fucking vanilla he literally steals n shit he a menace#they can never make me hate you#Dont know what else to tag#anti zutara#anti zutara fandom#pro kataang#kataang
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Moon Studios' Thomas Mahler supports a hate movement
As someone who adores the Ori games, this is just awful in so many ways.
"Cancel culture" DOESN'T EXIST. What you're talking about is people demanding certain figures of power and influence to be held accountable for spewing bigoted hate speech or causing a toxic environment.
"Woke culture"? You mean a culture that acknowledges the existence of marginalized communities i.e people of colour, disabled people, queer, gender-non comforming people. Yet to you, that's somehow a terrible thing.
How dare you use a powerful poem dedicated to the victims of the Holocaust-the horrific tragedy of the history of humanity-to complain about your first-world persecution complex! To whine how sad it is that cishet white men like you own-*gasp*-slightly LESS of the world! Oh woah is me! You don't deserve to utter those words. Also, wanting more diversity, representation and equality in video games, game development and games journalism ISN'T THE SAME AS NAZISM! And don't me give that "The Nazis were socialists" bullcrap! THEY WERE FAR-RIGHT FASCISTS! You should know better. You're Austrian for crying out loud!
Having a women and minorities exist in video games and development isn't an "agenda". It's called KNOWING PEOPLE OTHER THEN CISHET WHITE GUYS EXIST. Also, "Hollywood" and "west coast developers" have nothing to do with this. Society is just changing, becoming more inclusive for the better and entertaining of all mediums are reflecting that. And that's great! Unless you have a problem with that.
Your friends were never "ridiculed" because they "didn't conform". Far from that tragic martyr rubbish you claim. They were rightfully reprimanded and fired for being bigoted jerks who didn't respect the humanity of marginalized people....just like you.
If you really believe the existence of minorities are "political", then I have nothing to say but SCREW. YOU.
Overall, there's just no way of putting it: Thomas Mahler is member and supporter of Gamergate.
Despite what they might tell you, Gamergate isn't and never was about "ethics" or "wanting fun apolitical entertainment". It is, has been and always will be a white supremacist hate movement (alongside Comicsgate and The Fandom Menace) dedicated to chasing women, LGBTQ+ people and BIPOC out of gaming and fandom. Its members and ringleaders are and have always been LITERAL NEO-NAZIS. Even when boycotting certain games over the supposed diversity consultants or the inclusion of minorities, they can barely hide their hatred.
Oh, and once again, THESE PEOPLE ARE LITERAL NEO-NAZIS:
(As evidenced by the "Embrace Tradition. Reject Modernity" white supremacist slogan*.)
Remember, if you still want to play his games, that's fine. I don't have the power to stop you. Just be warned that this developer stands with a hate movement.
*Hey, Nazi-turds, Japan and Korea aren't your Aryan utopias nor are their people your precious Aryan supergods!
#video games#gaming#games#game developers#game development#game dev stuff#gamergate is a hate group#gamergate is a hate movement#comicsgate is a hate group#comicsgate is a hate movement#the fandom menace is a hate group#the fandom menace is a hate movement#cw slurs#screw nazis#anti nazi#anti neo-nazi#antifascist#gamers#video gaming#please reblog
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Some irrelevant anti: *says something utterly stupid just to hate on Anidala*
Me: ships Anidala more, this time harder.
#star wars#anidala#padmé amidala#anakin skywalker#anti fandom bs#like i don’t know who’s gonna tell you but#people have been shipping anidala since day 1#get over it already#as for me personally i’ve been shipping them since i was 8 and first watched the phantom menace#🤷🏾♀️
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Now I think about it Rey being chased in a desert by a flyer and is being attacked where have I seen that before oh yeah 👇
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#star wars#phantom menace#darth maul#qui gon jinn#rey skywalker#anti disney star wars#star wars fandom#Youtube
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PART 5 OF SHIZUO/VORONA - Season 2, Final arc, Durarara.
This is the continuation of my last post in this series.
Izaya, the culprit, has just dropped a whole freaking excavator/forklift on Shizuo and Vorona. The intention behind this act cannot be anything other than to seriously injure, if not kill, Shizuo and for sure kill Vorona.
Now I can see some Shizaya fans wanting Vorona out of the way, so her dying might be seen as a good thing by them. Not ideal for us Shizuo/Vorona fans but that's fandom for ya.
But I don't understand how anyone who claims to like Shizuo would want him badly injured or killed. Like... make it make sense! One half of this supposed pairing just tried to kill the other half dead. How does this even work? Makes me doubt if anyone that supports Shizaya as a pairing actually even truly likes (let alone respect) Shizuo as a character. They gotta be just Izaya fans who think of Shizuo as nothing more than a trophy for their favorite character. Even if Izaya hates Shizuo vehemently, Shizuo is a gift for him to torment and gaslight. Because I truly believe Izaya hates Shizuo and harbors zero positive thoughts towards him.
Anyways... on to the scene. Shizuo knew Izaya was the one to drop the excavator and rightly assumed Izaya was also behind the construction debris falling earlier - which injured Vorona, when she pushed him out of harm's way.
Of course, this is the moment in the LN when Vorona realizes that Shizuo is truly like a superhero. He glances the whole excavator off with just his right shoulder. Now, despite his super strength, he isn't left completely unharmed. He dislocates his shoulder in this. But he still manages to push the excavator out of the way and saves both himself and Vorona from getting killed.




Vorona is in shock at this spectacle. But a strange calm has descended on Shizuo. His anger has turned into a cold, calculated rage. He now knows he has to kill Izaya and be done with him.
He apologizes to Vorona. She just saved his life, but he's about to go ruin his life. He tells her she can stab him or shoot him the next time she sees him. But he gotta finish this job.



He walks into the stairwell and away from Vorona.

Vorona knows what he's about to do and she tries one last time to stop him. She calls out, "Shizuo! Come back!"
The look on her face is desperate. But he doesn't hear her.


Oh. My. Heart. 😍❤️💔😭
#shizuo heiwajima#drrr shizuo#durarara#shizuo/vorona#shizuo drrr#shizuo vorona#vorona drrr#vorona#drrr vorona#shizuo#anti-shizaya#izaya orihara#izaya is a menace#shizuo x vorona#durarara!!!#shizuo heiwajima x vorona#character analysis#fandom commentary
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My favourite thing on the internet:
When a person who sees some petty fandom war going on and is either in both fandoms, one, the other or none at all and creates a depiction of fanart/fan fiction of both fandoms being super friendly with eachother and it brings people together away from the shit that is cringe culture, gatekeeping and general fandom toxicity.
The harmony of crossovers being depicted as not a ‘X vs Y’ but a “Nice to meet you I’m from X” “Nice to meet you too I’m from Y, wanna be friends?” “Yeah sure!”
It’s just a thing that needs to be done more.
Same as mixing genres from a more “serious” one to something funny, wholesome or silly.
Never had so much fun putting a xenomoph in a Sims alien bachelorette challenge and putting Samara Morgan in a house with two other ghosts and a drunk werewolf. Just 👌 lovely nonsense, I am here for it.
#yes I am talking about gatekeeping yuri#more wholesome funny please#anti cringe culture#anti comparison#comparison culture is also a menace#stop comparing shit to put other shit on top#dreamworks#Disney#cartoons#studio ghilibi#anime#horror#you name it#video games#fandoms#fanbases#crossovers#fandoms living in harmony#anti fandom war#my opinion#kill the part of you that cringes#i am cringe but i am free
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#it really is the same kind of ''forced diversity'' argument all other big franchises get. just filtered through our weird fucks#same reason ''it's not ~about that'' takes re: queer canon were a pox during spn's run. people just exist and not only as a Genre karen#like they couldn't conceive of queerness outside of it making a story ''all about'' queerness#and spn's real strength in rep was then being *about* the big metaphysical epic but also featuring queer themes non-incidentally (via @deancasforcutie)
Some thoughts on the spn mothership, the prequel, inclusion in spn, and what this particular endless fandom forever war actually is at its root.
This has all happened before, in other major franchises.
Attempts to expand and become more inclusive get angry kick-back.
File “Jensen the bibro king who only cares about the bro bond” with other targeted wank: bashing on fans who genuinely advocate for more inclusive media and a more inclusive spn, slams on Misha’s activism or calling Misha’s allyship cynical pandering for money, aggressive concern trolling against inclusive characters under a veneer of wokeness. They did it to Wayward Sisters. They don't want it, they hate it, they also pretend to care, just enough to target the inclusive characters and deem them unworthy, but they don't actually care.
The picture is getting clearer and clearer. This is way outside the boundaries of ship wars. It’s them trying to stab a flag in Jensen to claim him for an spn that has no room for anyone but Sam and Dean and pretend he’s their anti-diversity king.
It's attacks on spn being a diverse world, period. Look at how and why they attack the prequel. Why are they mad. They’ve told us why: to them “spn is only Sam & Dean.” That is not just an attempt to gatekeep the spn mothership show. That is a gatekeep on the entire spn universe.
And while kinging him as their anti-diversity wind-up toy they’re also still hating him for the prequel, for not playing along with their narrow mindedness. For not being who they wanted him to be.
At this point, any so called “fans” labeling Jensen “the bibro king who only cares about the bro bond” have shown you what they are. jfc no wonder they hate the prequel this badly.
Some history, for context.
The Silent Majority is a "bibro" fans twitter founded in the hiatus between S7 and S8 to advocate for exclusion. They denied the accusation, but all the language and their posts were insidiously designed to maintain an spn where only Sam and Dean counted.
This has been there, all along, ticking away, and the ship war aspect has clouded what this actually is. It's not just about Cas. It's not just about Destiel. They've gone after marginalized character after marginalized character, in the name of “it's only about the brothers"
This conflict has always been there, since S1.
I love spn as a whole, I’ll even rewatch seasons I don't like as much, but I’ve always been critical of the yankback on the creatives' attempts at making that world more inclusive.
I never asked it to be something it wasn’t. It’s that I responded to the story being told, to the attempts of the creatives to expand that world, and let more diverse characters in, and allow them to matter. It helps the story. It’s not about diminishing Sam and Dean. On the mothership, the brothers were always the centerpiece, and other characters helped to tell their story, but Sam and Dean have also served as windows into other stories along the way, the stories of people who crossed their path and who matter to the brothers.
I’ve been an SPN fan since 2005 and have seen the mothership show pushing against the walls bounding it in for a long time. spn mothership for now remains artifact to enjoy in rewatch, and while I love it, I’m not ever claiming it as some ground-breakingly diverse series, but it smashed a lot of the walls and ceilings placed on it along the way and the creatives fought for more inclusion there for longer than you think.
It’s a different era. Now it’s the spn universe. Inclusion is baked into spn content from the jump. And it’s 2022 not 2005.
Supernatural is for everyone.
#people's existence is not political!!! characters existing who rep marginalized groups do not make a piece of media Only About That Thing#the subtext of endless spn fandom narratives has been backhandedly phobic for a long time 'it would ruin the show' 'it's not about that'#PEOPLE'S!!! EXISTENCE!!! IS NOT!!! POLITICAL!!!!!!!!#dot trolls fandom#thank you for these tags i want to amplify this loudly!!!#also: a work of media does not have to be designed at the jump to center representation as its main thing for rep to be there and matter#spn is a gen appeal series...which should mean NOT BARRING PEOPLE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!#*screaming in the middle of the woods about this for years*#it's everything the fandom menace has attacked Star Wars with just more veiled#from people who perform as pseudoliberal pseudoprogressive in fandom spaces and don't care who their Karening exclusion dialogues harm#and newsflash THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT DESTIEL AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SHIPS!!! but antis pretend it is#they attack support for marginalized characters by sneering 'all Those People care about is a ship that's the only reason'#marginalized characters matter#cynical concern trolling 'nobody really cares Those People only care about their ships' is part of anti diversity discourse#representation matters#supernatural is for everyone#spn#supernatural
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LGBT Vtuber Karina McDaniels Makes Her Compelling Views Against The Right And The Alt Right
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Ticklish?
fandom: obey me pairing: demon brothers & dateables x gn!reader warnings: suggestive on asmo's part summary: in which they find out you are ticklish. prompt by anon: The brothers + dateables reaction to the MC being ticklish because ik most of them are menaces about it A/N: lol rest in peace. good fucking luck mc. also i swear to god i know there's more to satan's character than his love of cats it just fits guys pls forgive me
LUCIFER
• Lucifer likes to appear as this super-serious macho man figure who, although he has his moments of going along with his siblings' antics, isn't a very playful guy. He's unlikely to find this out because he was trying to tickle you. Rather, it'd be by complete coincidence.
• When he offered to teach you to dance in the privacy of his room as classical music played in the background, you weren't expecting his hand on your waist to bother you as much as it did. Try as you might, you can't hide from him how you're biting your lip and stifling a giggle.
• "Is something funny to you?" He asks, unamused. You shake your head.
• "No, sorry. It just... tickles a bit."
• The only reaction you get in the moment is a hum and a nod. You're admittedly a little suspicious, but mostly grateful the dance lesson continued normally until you were able to return to your room.
• He's so unbothered by this new information, in fact, that you may even dare to think he'd all but forgotten about it when a few weeks pass by. Little did you know, he remembered. He was just storing it away for later use.
• Even the student council's representative of the human world was not immune to falling into Satan and Belphie's schemes, it seemed. After a failed attempt to capture a pic of a sleeping Lucifer, you find yourself trapped between him and the wall as he looms over you. You desperately hope that, just maybe, Satan or Belphie would come to your rescue — but alas, you had been left abandoned in the lions' den.
• "Bold of you to attempt to sneak up on me in such a vulnerable state," he clicked his tongue, agitated. "I'd assume you would know better by now."
• "I'm sorry, I—"
• "'Sorry'? Yes, you will be." He closed in on you.
• The shrieks that emanated from Lucifer's room that night could only be described as unholy as he unleashed his brand-new punishment on you. Out of everyone in the House of Lamentation, you hadn't expected the mighty first-born to be the one to tickle you half to death, but it was effective. If that was what was waiting for you, you were more than willing to give Satan and Belphie the cold shoulder the next time they suggested a new, ingenious prank to play on Lucifer. Sorry guys. It's not worth it.
"Come on, MC, this'll be our best work yet," Satan trails after you you down the hallway, clearly not keen on letting the matter go. He had taken the liberty of convincing you of the Anti-Lucifer League's newest escapade, as Belphie apparently refuses to be of any help. "We've planned it all out. It won't go wrong this time. I swear." You turn to look at Satan, catching a glimpse of Lucifer a short distance away over the fourth-born's shoulder. All it took was a knowing smirk and a mildly threatening gesture with his hands for you to turn pale. "MC?" "...I'm good, Satan, thanks."
MAMMON
• Unlike his older brother — Mammon would absolutely find this out on purpose.
• He's the spiritual eldest when it comes to playing around with his siblings, so he's experienced in tickle-fighting. You, unfortunately, only realised this while wrestling with him, when he suddenly starts tickling your sides to gain the upper-hand. It works, and now you're flailing around beneath him.
• "Hah! Take that!" You hear him laugh triumphantly above you as you struggle to force his attacking hands away from you. "Ya give in?!"
• "Yeees! You win, you win!"
• After your rather humiliating fake-wrestling defeat, he only gets more annoying with abusing your weakness as the days go by. As he learns all of your worst spots, he gets more and more bold, until not one day can go by where you aren't tackled and tickled to tears by the Avatar of Greed.
• Eventually, you're going to have to set some ground rules with this guy, because he just will not stop. For weeks after that initial incident, you find yourself constantly on edge no matter where you are, because he could be anywhere. Just planning the next tickle.
• Sure, it can be fun at first, but he always manages to take his play-fighting just a little too far. You don't have the same tolerance as his brothers, being a human and all, and he needs to remember that.
• Being tickled by Mammon is nowhere as unfair and torturous as it is with Lucifer though, mostly because unlike his older brother, Mammon is ticklish too. This means you can fight back and potentially even gain the upper-hand. It's unlikely you'll win in a chase, however — no matter if you're the one running or if he is — he's just too damn fast.
• He's the definition of being unable to take what he dishes out. Not only does he cry 'uncle' as soon as you land on a weak spot, but he'll be super pouty and embarrassed afterwards too. As if he wasn't the one who initiated it.
"Mammooon..." You poke his cheek, trying to provoke any sort of response. He huffs and turns his head away, but still doesn't say a word. "Mams... Babe..." "That ain't fair," he finally speaks, his cheeks tinging with red. "Ya can't call me that when I'm tryin' to be mad at ya." You can't help but smile at the demon before you. "I'm sorry for tickling you, Mammon." "Yeah? Well... I think I'm owed some compensation for that. 5,000 Grimm, at least!"
LEVIATHAN
• Levi wouldn't find this out on purpose. Or, rather, at all. At least not on his own.
• He freaks out and backs away every time his hand manages to accidentally brush against yours when he hands you something. He apologises profusely and feels like the absolute perverted scum of the earth when he happens to bump into you in the hallway. He refuses to hold hands with you beyond intertwining your pinkie fingers together, because anything more than that is too lewd for him.
• So yeah. He's not going to tickle you. Not even accidentally.
• He only ends up finding out when he catches you and Mammon having a tickle fight in the living room one day, to which he promptly leaves before either of you can notice him. Both to quell the jealousy bubbling in his chest, and to avoid Mammon roping him into his shenanigans.
• After that, he... does nothing, really.
• See, here's an interesting fact about the Avatar of Envy: He's ticklish too. Very ticklish. And his siblings, especially Mammon, tease him for it all the time. He absolutely hates it and it's just not funny to him. So even if he was able to touch you without taking 6000 points of damage to his psyche, he still wouldn't tickle you, because he understands how it feels.
• Instead, you could say that you two form an alliance of sorts. You defend him when one of his brothers (MAMMON) starts chasing him — using your pact if you have to — and he allows you safe refuge in his room if somebody is after you. His door has a lock on it after all, and knowing the consequences of trying to force their way inside the resident hermit's safe abode, your pursuer is unlikely to look for you in there.
• He might make fun of you a little for it, but that's the most he'll do. He won't lay a finger on you. Good guy Leviathan.
You restlessly chap on Levi's door, moving back and forth on your toes as you desperately hope for him to let you in. The seconds count down before your attacker will find you, when finally... Click. The door unlocks and you grab the handle, swinging it open and nearly hitting Levi in the face in the process. "Sorry, sorry!" You profusely whisper-yell apologies as you shut the door behind you. He locks it, and you can finally breathe a sigh of relief. "Thank you... You saved me..." Levi's cheeks burn red at your words. "Y—yeah, well... don't make a big deal out of it, normie. If you're staying in my room, then you're playing games with me too while you're here, okay? So... make yourself useful or I'll kick you back out!"
SATAN
• Maybe this is just me, but have you ever had a cat on your lap that just won't stop moving around and it sort of tickles? Yeah.
• A simple date to a cat café went from good, to better, then to worse in a very short span of time. Most of the kitties were awake and lively, wandering around and allowing you to pet them. So when one of the cats jumped up on your lap, both you and Satan were ecstatic, cooing endlessly at the little ball of fur that had made itself at home on your legs.
• The only problem was, the cat seemed to be unable to find a comfortable spot. You were trying to stay still, you really were, but the cat's paws constantly moving against your thighs made you really need to move around in your seat. Satan noticed how you had to force yourself to stay put by gripping onto the table in front of you, and he also noticed how you were biting the inside of your cheek to keep from smiling like an idiot, but he didn't say anything at first.
• The first time Satan tickles you, it comes completely out of nowhere. To you, at least. Some exams were coming up and you agreed to let him tutor you, but the material was just so boring, and Satan's delivery of it certainly wasn't helping to keep you engaged...
• You were abruptly brought back to reality by a sharp jab to your side. You jumped and looked around, as if searching for the culprit, only to see Satan, with his eyes narrowed at you. "Pay attention."
• "I was!"
• "No you weren't," he poked you once in the side for each word to enunciate his sentence, and then grabbed you by the waist to prevent you from escaping. "Are you going to listen to me now?"
• "Ye-ees!"
• "Are you sure?"
• Satan's kind of a dick about it, to be honest. He'll tickle you to convince you to do things with him. You don't want to partake in his newest prank against Lucifer? Uh... yes you do, remember?
• He's also a hypocrite. He is ticklish but he hates it just as much — if not more — than Levi. So if you do it back to him, he'll shove you off or yell at you.
"Fi—fine! Fine!" You yell, and Satan's attack on your sides ceases. He looks down at you with an eyebrow raised. "You'll do it?" "Yes!" You nod furiously. If getting him to stop meant agreeing to prank call Lucifer, you suppose you'll just have to do it. "Now get off!" "Good," he smiled and moved off of you from where he had you pinned. "Now, about the plan I had prepared..."
ASMODEUS
• ...You know the deal. There is going to be a struggle keeping these headcanons SFW.
• He can find out one of two ways: the first being that he was doing your makeup and somehow found out by brushing too close to your neck or jawline, the second being that you two were leading up to... other activites.
• We'll be going with the former for my own sake lol. He realises what your reaction was for after the first time you tilt your head away from him, and can't help but tease you for it right away.
• "Oh darling, how did I not know this before? Are you keeping secrets from me? ♡"
• Somehow, Asmo ends up being one of the worst for how he takes advantage of this. He will tickle you anywhere at any time and for any reason.
• If he thinks you're not paying enough attention to him, he'll tickle you so you're forced to focus on him. If he sees you using makeup wipes on your poor, delicate skin, he'll tickle you as a "warning" to never do that again. Eventually he just starts making up reasons.
• You can tickle him back, but he enjoys it and will try to use it to lead into sex. So, unfortunately, that won't work to dissuade him.
• Don't think for a moment he's embarrassed or ashamed of his behaviour in public settings, because he isn't. He has no qualms with tickling you in a restaurant with strangers around, and doesn't care how much attention you end up attracting. It's hell.
• He's another boy you're going to have to set boundaries with at some point just because of how frequent it is. The tipping point came when he squeezed your leg in the middle of a student council meeting and you hit your knee so hard on the table you were convinced you broke something.
• He'll back off if you tell him to. You just need to actually tell him to, otherwise he won't realise how much it bothers you.
"Oh, sweetie, I'm sorry..." Asmo pouts as he gently rubs your aching knee. "I didn't realise you'd react like that." You huff and turn your head away from him. "Don't turn this on me." "I'm not!" He shakes his head and leans forward to look you in the eye. "I swear! I just didn't know that'd happen. Can you forgive me, honey? I promise you I won't do it again. I can't have you bruising that beautiful skin because of me..."
BEELZEBUB
• Beel, similar to Levi, isn't likely to find out on his own. For different reasons, though.
• Beel isn't afraid of physical touch, but he is scared of hurting you. He's so big and you're so small. He's fully aware of his strength, and even if he has good control over it, he tends to treat you like how one would handle a delicate China plate. It's not that he doesn't touch you at all, but he's so careful when he does that he probably won't even unintentionally find out that you're ticklish.
• The only way he'd find out is if he stumbled across you in the midst of a (usually very one-sided) tickle fight with one of his brothers. In which case, he will usually step in to save you.
• As the second-youngest, he's used to being teased in a similar manner by his older siblings. So if he sees you pinned down, he'll intervene so you can catch your breath and get away.
• If you run to him for protection, much like Levi, he'll take you back to his room and won't let anyone else except Belphie inside until it's safe to assume whoever was after you has given up. You don't have to, but if you thank him by bringing him a few snacks from the fridge later, he'll be happy.
• Such a sweetheart and probably won't ever tickle you. He really doesn't want to upset you.
• The only time I can see him tickling you is if you're having a bad day and he decides you need cheering up. He'll be sat next to you, staring intently at your frowning face as the gears turn in his head. He doesn't know what your day was like or why you're so peeved, but he knows he wants to see you smile again.
• He'll scoot closer, trap you in a hug with one arm and use his free hand to (very carefully) tickle you until you give in. He'll apologise, but as long as that smile is back on your face, he's satisfied.
• "Do you feel better?" He asks, a sweet smile on his face as he pats your head. And you have to admit, you do.
You could swear you saw Beel's eyes sparkle as you offered him the box of chocolates in your hands. You were saving them to eat yourself at some point, but... seeing as Beel valiantly defended you from Asmo earlier, you figure he at least deserves this. He manages to pry his eyes away from the chocolates to look at you. "...Why?" "Because you saved me from Asmo earlier," you explain and hold the box of chocolates closer to him, urging him to take them. "This is my 'thank you'." Finally, he takes the box from you. "...You didn't have to." Despite his words, he opens the lid and starts devouring the chocolates inside so quickly that you don't even have time to remind him to take the wrappers off.
BELPHEGOR
• There are a few scenes in-game where he tickles or tries to tickle the MC, so yes, he'd absolutely find out very quickly.
• Belphie is not only a little shit — he's also spoiled and likes getting his way. So, like Satan, he'll tickle you to convince you of things. Usually it's when he doesn't feel like doing dinner duty or cleaning his room, or if he can tell you're hiding something from him.
• The first time he tickles you, it's because he had an assignment due the next morning. One he had procrastinated on for weeks. You had reminded him time and time again to start working on it as the deadline approached, but he ignored you, and the situation he's in now is, quite frankly, his own fault. So even as he whines to you about how sleepy he is and tries to butter you up so you'll do it for him, you don't give in.
• That is, until he has an idea. With an exaggerated pout on his face, he moved up behind you and wrapped his arms around you in a hug, lazily slumping against your back. Just as you were about to scold him, you felt him start to ruthlessly tickle your sides.
• With his body weight on you, there was little you could do. And even as you fell to the ground, he simply followed you, taunting and teasing you the whole time. When he thinks you've had enough, he hovers above you with a smirk on his face.
• "So? Do you feel like doing it now?"
• Little fucker. He cuddles with you later to "thank" you, but you're still salty about it.
• Like most others on this list, you can get him back. He's the baby of the family so of course he's ticklish. Expect him to use dirty tricks to win any tickle fight you initiate, however. Like "giving in" only to immediately attack once you stop, or using the fluffy end of his tail to catch you by surprise.
• Beel tends to come to his rescue a lot as well, so beware of that.
"I—I give! I giiive!" You smirk in triumph as the youngest demon brother surrenders beneath you, and you let up your tickling assault. You roll off of him, fixing your ruffled hair. "See? That's what happens when you challenge me," with your back turned, you're too busy congratulating yourself to notice Belphie slowly sitting up behind you. "Anyway, you need to— AH—!" You shriek as you're tackled down to the bed again, cursing as Belphie grins down at you, his eyes gleaming with a sadistic light. "Belphie! That's cheatING—!!" And so, it starts again.
DIAVOLO
• Diavolo likely finds out in a similar fashion to Lucifer. Only it might be at a ball rather than in a secluded area.
• He's confused at first. He knows what tickling is, but being extremely sheltered, he's never received much affection like that in his life. As a result, it takes him a moment to put the pieces together. Once he does, he smiles fondly down at you and apologises, and that is that.
• ...For now.
• What he didn't show right away was just how giddy this discovery made him. What an adorable trait to have! And one he had to see more of. He'd missed out on tickle fights his whole life — he had to wonder what they were like?
• He made a mental note to experiment with this information the next time you came around to the palace. And that he did.
• Literally yells "tickle fight!" before pulling you close and going to town. You have to yell for him to be gentler, because inexperienced as he is, what should tickle actually kind of hurts at first.
• "Ah, I'm so, so sorry," he relaxes his fingers a little, no longer digging into your skin. "Is this any better? My sincere apologies."
• His apology would seem a lot more genuine if he didn't continue to tickle you while saying it.
• That, and he doesn't quite understand the concept of a tickle fight. What he's doing to you is more like a tickle beat-down. It's so one-sided it's almost comical. Unable to fight back or escape, Barbatos has to come and tell him to stop before you piss yourself.
• This was fun! He decides completely on his own. We should do this more often! He says, as you are gasping for breath on the fucking ground.
• After this first experience, he incorporates more minor tickling into your daily lives. Instead of trapping you like the first time, he'll sneakily poke you while walking by, and then look back at you with a wave and a completely innocent smile on his face.
"MC? Apologies, you seem to be in the middle of something. It won't take long," Diavolo smiles as he enters the empty student council hall. Indeed, you are in the middle of sorting some letters, but it isn't as if you can deny an audience to the Demon King. "I have a question for you. It appears... as if you've been avoiding me lately. Why is that?" You blink, trying to discern if he was serious. The look on his face said yes, he was. "...Diavolo, whenever we sit next to each other, you keep reaching over to tickle me." He meets you with a surprised expression as if this is somehow news to him. "I did not know it was such a problem," He confesses. "Very well, then. I'll stop. If I do, will you start sitting beside me again? I quite miss it."
BARBATOS
• He already knew. Lol.
• He officially "finds out" for the first time when he just happens to walk in on Diavolo tickling you half to death and saves you from his grasp. In reality, he already knew this was going to happen and planned to show up just in time to clean you off of the floor once Diavolo had his fun.
• You're thankful he showed up, though. If not for the fact he rescued you, then for the tea he served you afterwards to ensure you wouldn't have had an entirely terrible experience that day.
• As for what he does with this information? Well, not much. At least, it doesn't seem like it to you.
• Barbatos knows how to be sneaky with how he uses this to hear you laugh throughout the day. He'll brush his hand against your skin while reaching for something, "accidentally" touch your back and make you jump while walking by you, and it will always seem unintentional. At first, that is.
• Red flags start to raise when these accidents seem to happen multiple times, every single time you're around him. He knows when you're starting to get suspicious too, and that's around the point he stops even trying to pretend like it isn't intentional. He'll keep doing it, but flash you an infuriating, coy smile after each time.
• Now it's war.
• If this is the game he's playing, you might as well participate.
• The only problem being... it's Barbatos. He knows when you're planning something and exactly how you're going to execute it. You can't even land a hand on the bastard.
• And even if you did somehow manage to (AKA he lets you), you genuinely have no idea if he's even ticklish. He won't react to anything you do to him, but he also won't give you a straight answer if you bluntly ask him if he's ticklish or not. He just looks at you with that signature poker-faced smile. And with that, he turns and walks away. YOU NEED ANSWERS.
• Eventually you become convinced that he isn't actually ticklish at all, but he lets you think he could be because he enjoys seeing you so determined to catch him off-guard.
"B—Barbatos!" You jerk your body away as his hand "somehow" manages to pinch your side while reaching for the utensils drawer next to you. He smiles. "My apologies, it was an accident." He says, and you call bullshit right away. With a newfound desire for revenge, you latch onto his side and start to tickle, but frown when he doesn't react at all. In fact, he simply opens the drawer and takes out a few of the cutlery inside like he initially intended to do, as if you aren't even there. He meets your eye with another, slightly more amused smile, before turning and leaving the room. You stand there, dumbfounded. Though... you could've sworn you saw him flinch a little when you first touched him.
SIMEON
• Simeon is also ticklish and is another example of someone who knows how it feels. He's not likely to tickle you often.
• That's not to say he doesn't find it amusing or cute — he absolutely does — but his first thought when the back rubs he gave you with the intention of being soothing turned ticklish wasn't that he should take advantage of it, rather that it's just something new he now knows about you.
• Simeon won't ever intentionally tickle you because it's, well, mean. He'll only do it if he gets "permission", meaning if you do it to him first.
• He enjoys seeing you smile and laugh, but he doesn't ever want to go too far. Most of the tickle fights you initiate are won by him — don't let his appearance and sweetness fool you, he's still much stronger than you are — but they also don't last long. He'll stop, apologise, and offer to make up for it with anything you want.
• "Sorry, sorry," Simeon smiles as he helps you back to your feet, brushing your hair out of your face. "Are you alright? Come on, let's sit down together. No more tickling, though."
• He... tries to be a protector of sorts if Solomon or anyone else is after you. I can't say it works out well for him though, and whoever was after you just ends up with two victims instead of one.
• Bless him for trying. At least you're not suffering alone.
• When you come around to Purgatory Hall, depending on your friendship with Luke, you two may have playful tickle wars that go on. He won't interfere, but Luke does tend to use Simeon as a shield or claims that you're "bullying" him. Simeon never takes it too seriously and you can usually continue your playful tickle-attack uninhibited.
You lay, breathless and sweaty on the floor. You stare up at the ceiling as you pant for air and slowly sit up, wiping at your forehead. You turn to the man sprawled out on the floor right next to you, the both of you having just endured the same tickle-attack by Solomon. "...Are you alright?" Simeon slowly turns his head to look at you and meets you with an exhausted smile. "Yeah, I'm fine... you?" "...Yeah." You sigh. Silence fills the air for a moment, interrupted only by your heavy breathing. "...Wanna get him back?" As angelic as Simeon still is... even he can't refuse that offer.
SOLOMON
• This shady sorcerer absolutely finds out on purpose.
• After one too many times where you've outright banned him from the kitchen to prevent some kind of national tragedy, he decides he's owed some kind of penance. So the one time you allow him in the kitchen while you cook — under strict supervision — he sneaks up behind you and...
• "Solomon!" You squeal, nearly dropping the ingredients in your hands as he hugs you from behind and uses the position to start furiously tickling you.
• "What? Why are you laughing?" He asks cheekily. "You better be careful. You don't want to ruin dinner, right?"
• After the first incident, it gets much, much worse.
• He'll tickle you at any time, anywhere, whenever he feels like it. It doesn't matter how busy you are or how important what you're working on is, he will interrupt you out of nowhere to tickle you until he's satisfied. Prick.
• He thinks it's funny to tickle you in inconvenient or inappropriate settings, too. If you're sat in front of or next to him in class, you can expect him to start repeatedly poking you or enchanting a few items to tickle you as you desperately try to hold back any reactions because then you'll be the one embarrassing yourself.
• He's also ticklish, but will go to great lengths to avoid you ever figuring that out. Probably drinks some kind of potion that dulls his sensitivity before seeking you out to tickle you just in case you try to get revenge on him.
• Of course, you can still catch him when he's unprepared. And when you do, it's war.
• At least Purgatory Hall is never boring with you two around.
You stare down Solomon as you face one another at opposite ends of the dining table. He's grinning at you, and every now and again tries to rush over to where you are, at which point you circle the table to keep the distance. "You can't keep going forever." He taunts. "Watch me, motherfucker," you curse, but it's true. You're already out of breath. He tries to charge you again and you react quickly, hurrying back around to the other side of the table. Just as you do, however, he changes direction. You're unable to turn around in time and he catches you, damn near lifting you up into the air with how he grabs you. "Solomon! Stop it!" "You started it," he argues. "Now suffer the consequences."
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I've had a thought in my head that I think the greater dpxdc fandom would enjoy:
Either through the GIW asking for help with the ghost boy menace or some internal review finding their (the GIW) results lacking, Amanda Waller is now in charge. She decides to sic the suicide squad on Danny. I just want to see battle shenanigans between the suicide squad equipped with all the fancy anti-ecto weapons and one ghost teenager.
Danny learning about the bombs that were embedded into them that will go off should any of the Suicide Squad go rogue and offering to make the bombs intangible, can't kill you if they can't interact with you. and he only offers because 'wow forcing criminals to do the governments dirty work or die super unethical'
who on the team would take him up on the offer?
@stealingyourbones, @nerdpoe, @dcxdpdabbles, @evilminji, @puppetmaster13u
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“I 100% sympathize with that choice and would absolutely do the same thing [commit genocide and massacre an entire town, including infants]”-@askshivanulegacy
“You can want to wipe out the village of torturers and murderers and that's fine”@askshivanulegacy
You would what?
This reminds me of this counter argument that’s going around right now in the Palestine vs Israel discussion where people are like “So if your parents were being held hostage by 1 bad guy, you’d be okay with just bombing the place instead of even trying to extract them safely? If the person who killed your parents was holed up in a house with a bunch of children they were using as human shields, you’d be OK with bombing the house in order to take out the one killer?”
Maybe not entirely accurate but what’s going on in Palestine is genocide and it’s insane how people who are trying to justify that genocide are always met with counter arguments like the above which highlight just how stupid and flawed trying to justify the genocide is (even if you ignore how it’s just flat out evil).
I know someone might easily think: “Why are you bringing Palestine vs Israel into this?” but Star Wars is based off of real life events. Sci-fi and fiction are almost always heightened reflections and critiques of real world issues and this discussion we’re having is about genocide which the world is witnessing happen before our very eyes right now in Palestine so it seemed relevant. I think it’s worth mentioning because people get on the internet and write excuses for genocide, sympathy for those who commit it, and boldly proclaim that they would have done the same. Those are things that are not actually existing within a fandom bubble; it’s being seen by people on the Internet who are also watching non-fictional versions of this happening on the news to real people in the world. It’s being seen by people who are survivors of genocide. If you or anybody else is saying things like this and then turning around looking at the news on the TV or your phone to see what’s happening in Palestine, it’s frightening to think about what goes through your head when you see real life instances of this. Yes, fiction is fiction and fandom shouldn’t be activism, but for fuck sake! Watching these atrocities happen in the world, proceeding to then get online and play devils advocate for people carrying out these very evil acts of genocide, ethnic cleansing, bigotry, etc. that take place in Star Wars or other fandoms, and acting like it’s not that big of a deal because you’re talking about made up characters in a made up universe is not only concerning, but harmful. If you’re someone pretending like it’s different or that it’s not dangerous; you’re either someone being willfully ignorant in an attempt to excuse what you write and publish on the internet for the world to see, or you’re actually that fucking stupid and out of touch with the world which means you probably don’t realize how lucky you are to be able think that at all.
I feel like the statement above is just one more example of how Star Wars fans always have excuses and justifications for the actions of the Sith, the Empire, and Anakin Skywalker. They’re always undoubtably paired with pro-genocide/pro ethnic cleansing comments that i frequently non-stop see used in an attempt to try and deflect responsibility for the genocide that takes place onto the victims rather than those responsible. This behavior in the Star Wars fanbase is more harmful than ever before with the current state of the world.
I don’t understand how people can continue to say things like that and not understand that the full weight of what they’re actually saying. How do you not understand that it actually isn’t being said into the vacuum of a fandom space? How do you not see that discussions about these things have always been viewed by people who are either descendants of genocide survivors, are watching this very thing happen in the news, or are victims of current genocide? That people come here, maybe for a distraction or to entertain themselves, read someone’s excuses for genocidal ethnic cleansing and fascism, then take their impressionable/stupid/bigoted minds back to the real world and form opinions about what’s happening on the news based off of what they just read either consciously or subconsciously. There are people who come here to enjoy Star Wars content and witness people relentlessly making statements of support and/or excuses for fascism, genocide, and ethnic cleansing while even claiming that they would also inflict those evil crimes against humanity. They see that and then get to think about what they just read as someone who might be related to a genocide or holocaust victim. Or maybe they are experiencing it right now. Maybe they’re just someone keeping up with the news and seeing the daily updates that report how the people being massacred through a systematic genocide (like the one that’s being discussed in this post) are suffering. People are watching the news and thinking about how there really are people who are so boldly endorsing horrific genocide like the kind that’s happening to the victims of Palestine.
This isn’t just a fandom discussion. It’s a pretty damn upsetting display of people’s ability to take a stance on the side of fascism and the perceived right to commit genocide.
It's probably been around a while and I just haven't encountered it before now, but the "yes everyone would have murdered a village down to the last child in that situation" take is a new one for me! Like would I have been justifiably upset in that situation? Yes. But what would I have done in that moment myself? Probably run. Granted I am not a person with a ton of unfathomable powers and a weapon I have spent a decade training to use that can cut through literally everything, but still. The argument that "well yeah EVERYONE would've done exactly what Anakin did" kinda falls apart when you think about it for two seconds because wow is that not what I would do when faced with being alone in the middle of an entire community of people who just captured and tortured my innocent mother for several weeks.
But it's also VERY hard to argue that this is even how everyone would react to this situation in Star Wars.
They literally have an entire arc where they explicitly have Obi-Wan's old nemesis who killed Obi-Wan's Master come to attack the home planet of someone he loves, captures her, and then murders her right in front of Obi-Wan with Obi-Wan helpless to save her. He then goads Obi-Wan into reacting in anger and Obi-Wan's reaction is to refuse to engage. He very explicitly refuses to even attack Maul because he knows he'd be reacting in anger and he's literally seen exactly where that leads before and overcome it. So when Obi-Wan IS put in an extremely similar situation, he chooses not to just go out and attack everybody as a result. He doesn't give in to his anger and fly to Dathomir to go kill every single Nightbrother on the planet as a form of justice for Satine, which is what this person is arguing is how literally anybody would react when placed in that situation.
Reva Sevander has every reason to despise Anakin, more reason than Anakin had to despise the Tuskens. And yet when she goes after Luke to try to kill him after she fails to kill Anakin, that becomes a line she can't cross. More accurately, it's a line Reva CHOOSES not to cross. So when put in that situation with all the same anger and grief as Anakin had with the opportunity to get her vengeance by killing an innocent child, Reva makes the active choice not to do what Anakin did. So while the impulse obviously was still there with Reva, she was fully capable of choosing not to go through with it. And Reva's been soaking in Darkness since she was about 8-10 years old, getting tortured and broken as an Inquisitor, surrounded by the corpses of her people, with zero support of any kind that she can turn to for comfort or guidance. Anakin had spent the last 10 years in a warm loving environment with people who cared for him and still had most of those people available to him to support him in this time of grief. And yet when faced with the same choice, Reva chose to pull back and let Luke live, but Anakin just kept going and massacred an entire village. It's a CHOICE, not an uncontrollable urge.
You know the only other person I can think up off the top of my head who DOES canonically have a similar reaction to Anakin's?
Aleksander Kallus.
Kallus explicitly states that he leads a genocide against the Lasat as vengeance for ONE Lasat killing a unit of Imperial soldiers in self defense. An entire species is nearly wiped out of existence because Kallus decided to let his anger control him.
But there are NUMEROUS other characters in Star Wars who we see lose people they love and proceed to not go on a murder spree against innocent people and children as a result. And the ones that do are pretty explicitly villains whose actions when in those situations are used to showcase just how villainous they are. Which indicates that it's NOT a normal reaction because otherwise it wouldn't really mean anything as a villain identifier. If it's something just about anyone would've done, it's probably not that villainous. The point of it NEEDS to be that most people WOULDN'T do that, even in justified anger.
#@askshivanulegacy#star wars fans always manage to find new ways to stoop lower than I thought they could ever go#if there are spelling errors or grammatical errors then I just really don’t care right now Also blame Siri.#fucking wild#anti anakin apologists#fandom menace#pro jedi order#pro jedi#jedi order#star wars#star wars legends#reva sevander#grey jedi doesn’t exist#gray jedi doesn’t exist#gray jedi#grey jedi code#obi wan kenobi#anakin skywalker#dave filoni#this post is a grammatical mess but oh well#spell check is off
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*Bioshock. Fallout. Metal Gear Solid. Call Of Duty. Halo. Jak II. Final Fantasy VII. Final Fantasy X. Valkyria Chronicles. Tales Of Symphonia. Tales Of Versperia. Fire Emblem. Rachet & Clank. Grand Theft Auto V exist*. Gamergate/Comicsgate/Fandom Menace chuds: YAY!
*Gone Home. Abby and Ellie from The Last Of Us Part II. Spider-Man (Miles Morales) and Hailey Cooper from Marvel's Spider-Man 2. Saga Anderson from Alan Wake II. Vinyl from Bomb Rush Cyberfunk. Mizhena from Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear. Life Is Strange: True Colors. Usual June. Dustborn exist* Gamergate/Comicsgate/Fandom Menace chuds: You Made it political.
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one thing i love about star wars is that the jedi are monks with dangerous psychic space magic, and so they're monks on purpose. they're joyfully and intentionally participating in their institution and finding meaning and happiness in life as monks—anakin is the exception that proves the rule!
it makes me happy to see as many people in the world live like this, and are quite happy with rich, full lives in fellowship with their fellow monks, practicing the tenets of their philosophies, studying the world and themselves, handing down their traditions and wisdom, always helping others; this is such a valid and good way to live, not any kind of oppression.
if anakin had been less selfish, if he had internalized and practiced the jedi philosophy of moderation and compassion, he could have had a rich, happy life (if only he lived in an age without the malice and menace of the sith!) and that's the root of his tragedy that he turned away from those bonds and generous purpose toward his own private pleasure.
it's not easy to practice discipline, but it's so worth it, both for you and everyone whose lives you can touch. it bothers me when i see comments openly and offensively denigrating all organized living; the individualistic amatonormative anti-religion biases of sw fandom are unfortunately on almost continual display. not all religions and religious organizations are abusive and controlling!
i believe from the bottom of my aromantic heart that one don't need romantic love and a nuclear family to be a full human being with a good life. these monks follow their philosophy of moderation and discipline in fellowship with their monastic fellows on purpose and by choice so they can serve the galaxy, and this is such a commendable life full of meaning and love.
the tragedy of their genocide is visible in how that force of generosity and hope for the galaxy was wiped away, for the violent enforcement of a brutal era of exploitation and greed. when luke restores the order and the jedi return, that form of joy in service and endless compassion is returned too. it's a beautiful thing that continually inspires me to live a better and more moderate and generous life.
#being a monk means having your life be part of an institution#and following the tenets of that institution#and that can be a beautiful thing#that many many people do on purpose#sw#jedi order#jedi positivity
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here i am again thinking about how different tranches of the Dr. Who fandom rate each Doctor's different stories relative to each other. last year (or so) i did a big post analysing @adventure-showdown 's poll of the Tumblr fandom as it compared to the DWM reader's poll. there i examined the overlap of those two groups of fans' top- and bottom-rated stories for each Doctor. it was enlightening!
here i'm gonna further that analysis, with data from tardis.guide. i'm taking this data as of February 1, 2025 - clearly not exactly contemporary with the earlier data sets, but i suspect there will be some interesting trends. i made Venn diagrams. let's dive in.
First Doctor's top/bottom three
All agree: The Time Meddler (top) Tumblr/Tardis Guide: The Romans (top), The Smugglers (bottom) Tardis Guide/DWM: The Dalek Invasion of Earth (top), The Web Planet (bottom) Just Tumblr: The Edge of Destruction (top), The Crusade, The Savages (bottom) Just Tardis Guide: Galaxy 4 (bottom) Just DWM: The Daleks' Masterplan (top), The Sensorites, The Space Museum (bottom)
In 1's top and bottom three, there's only one story that all three sources agree should be at one of these extremes: The Time Meddler is in the top three. I'm disappointed to see Galaxy 4 in Tardis Guide's bottom three, the novelisation was an early and important piece of Doctor Who for me. But it's tough with a mostly-missing serial.
Second Doctor's top/bottom three
All agree: The War Games (top), The Dominators, The Space Pirates (bottom) Tumblr/Tardis Guide: The Mind Robber, The Enemy of the World (top), The Krotons (bottom) Just DWM: The Power of the Daleks, Tomb of the Cybermen (top) The Underwater Menace (bottom)
There is a bit more broad consensus on 2 than on 1. All three sources agree that The War Games is in the top tier, and The Dominators and The Space Pirates are at the bottom. Then, the Tardis Guide user base seems to follow Tumblr's inclinations, ranking The Mind Robber and The Enemy of the World at the top and The Krotons at the bottom (another important novelisation for a younger version of this writer, but alas).
Third Doctor
All agree: The Green Death (top), The Mutants (bottom) Tumblr/Tardis Guide: Death to the Daleks (bottom) Tardis Guide/DWM: Spearhead from Space, Inferno (top), The Monster of Peladon (bottom) Just Tumblr: The Dæmons, The Three Doctors (top), Planet of the Daleks (bottom) Just DWM: The Time Monster (bottom)
Every Doctor has at least one story that all three sources agree is either at the top or the bottom, and I think that's great! It gives me a sense of a broader view of the fandom's tastes. For 3, it's no surprise that The Green Death is unanimously top-three material and The Mutants bottom-three (though, again, I'm realising I have some anti-mainstream opinions about some of these earlier "bad" serials" - I really liked The Mutants!). Tardis Guide's userbase breaks m ore in the DWM readership's favour regarding most of the rest of the rankings, with Spearhead and Inferno at the top and The Monster of Peladon at the bottom from both of those sources.
Fourth Doctor's top/bottom four
All agree: City of Death, Genesis of the Daleks (top), Underworld, The Power of Kroll (bottom) Tumblr/Tardis Guide: Revenge of the Cybermen (bottom) Tardis Guide/DWM: Meglos (bottom) DWM/Tumblr: Robots of Death (top) Just Tumblr: The Horror of Fang Rock (top), Nightmare of Eden (bottom) Just Tardis Guide: The Seeds of Doom, Shada (top) Just DWM: Pyramids of Mars (top), The Horns of Nimon (bottom)
It's our first full Venn diagram! There's at least one item populating each section! And it's no surprise with the number of stories this guy has. I don't know what to make of the fact that Tardis Guide lists Shada alongside all of 4's regular TV stories - different methodologies for different folks, i guess. (Psst, there's only one other full Venn in this post - can you guess which Doctor it is?)
Fifth Doctor's top/bottom three
All agree: The Caves of Androzani (top), Time-Flight (bottom) Tumblr/Tardis Guide: Enlightenment (top) Tardis Guide/DWM: Earthshock (top), The King's Demons, Warriors of the Deep (bottom) DWM/Tumblr: The Five Doctors (top) Just Tumblr: Four to Doomsday, The Awakening (bottom)
There is fairly broad agreement with 5's best and worst. It seems Tumblr is the fly in the ointment here, with our particular dislike of Four to Doomsday and The Awakening. However, all can agree that The Caves of Androzani is great and Time-Flight is less great.
Sixth Doctor
All agree: Vengeance on Varos (top), Timelash, The Twin Dilemma (bottom) Tardis Guide/DWM: Revelation of the Daleks (top) Just Tumblr: Mark of the Rani, Trial of a Time Lord (top), The Ultimate Evil (bottom) Just Tardis Guide: The Mysterious Planet (top), Mindwarp (bottom) Just DWM: The Two Doctors (top), Attack of the Cybermen (bottom)
6 is probably the most problematic to do this sort of analysis for, because each of the three sources' methodologies differ such that each treats Trial differently: adventure-showdown's Tumblr poll listed Trial as a unit and each individual part separately, Tardis Guide just lists the individual parts, and DWM just listed the full season as one story. A mess. But a delightful mess, just like Sixie himself.
Seventh Doctor
All agree: Survival, Remembrance of the Daleks (top), Delta and the Bannermen, Time and the Rani (bottom) Tumblr/Tardis Guide: Silver Nemesis (bottom) Tardis Guide/DWM: The Curse of Fenric (top) Just Tumblr: The Happiness Patrol (top) Just DWM: Paradise Towers (bottom)
7's run shows the most cohesion yet, with all three sources agreeing on 2/3 of each of the top and bottom stories in his run. Then it's just a matter of whether you prefer pink TARDISes or wet vampires.
Eighth Doctor
I won't attempt to make a Venn for 8, but I will sum up how his top 10 audio dramas overlap.
Both Agree: The Chimes of Midnight, Scherzo, Solitaire, To the Death, The Red Lady Just Tumblr: Caerdroia, The Natural History of Fear, Zagreus, Storm Warning, The Silver Turk Just Tardis Guide: Albie's Angels, Absent Friends, Lucie Miller, Palindrome - Part 1, Day of the Master - Part 2
A very neat 5/5/5 split here! I can see a definite bias towards 8/Charlie and the Divergent arc in Tumblr's top, whereas the Tardis Guide userbase seems to prefer 8/Liv/Helen and 8/Lucie, and I'm surprised and delighted to see a story from the Eighth Doctor's Time War series!
I may as well do the novels too, one second... Okay, here's how each source ranked their top 5 8DAs.
Both Agree: Alien Bodies, Unnatural History Just Tumblr: Interference, Mad Dogs and Englishmen, The Adventuress of Henrietta Street Just Tardis Guide: The Year of Intelligent Tigers, Vampire Science, Seeing I
Okay back to the TV show.
Ninth Doctor
All agree: Dalek, The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, Bad Wolf/The Parting of Ways (top), Aliens of London/World War Three, The Long Game (bottom) DWM/Tumblr: Boom Town (bottom) Just Tardis Guide: The Unquiet Dead (bottom)
I had to make the Venn diagram squishier, that's how much cohesion there is in these three sources' opinions on 9's run! You'll recall that DWM and the Tumblr poll completely agreed on his top and bottom three. The Tardis Guide userbase throws a bit of a wrench in, declaring their dislike of The Unquiet Dead over Boom Town, though I'll note that the latter is fourth from the bottom in the Tardis Guide rankings. I'm really interested in the broad consensus that seems to have formed around 9's stories - they practically don't move in the DWM reader rankings over the past decade plus. I'm curious to see if anything will be re-evaluated in the future.
Tenth Doctor's top/bottom four
All agree: Blink, Midnight, Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead (top), The Idiot's Lantern, The Lazarus Experiment (bottom) Tardis Guide/DWM: Meglos (bottom) DWM/Tumblr: Love & Monsters, Fear Her (bottom) Just Tumblr: The Fires of Pompeii (top), The Next Doctor, The Shakespeare Code (bottom) Just Tardis Guide: Turn Left (top) Just DWM: Human Nature/The Family of Blood (top)
While I find the broad agreement around 9 fascinating, I'm equally fascinated by the divergence around 10. This analysis shows that people are inclined to believe that no more than one of the following stories belongs in his top 4: The Fires of Pompeii, Turn Left, and Human Nature/The Family of Blood. Not to say that they're interchangeable, but I think which one you pick can say a lot!
Eleventh Doctor's top/bottom four:
All agree: The Eleventh Hour, Vincent and the Doctor (top), The Doctor, the Widow, and the Wardrobe (bottom) Tumblr/Tardis Guide: Victory of the Daleks (bottom) Tardis Guide/DWM: The Day of the Doctor (top), Nightmare in Silver (bottom) DWM/Tumblr: The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang (top) Just Tumblr: The Doctor's Wife (top), The Crimson Horror, Night Terrors (bottom) Just Tardis Guide: The God Complex (top) Just DWM: Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS, The Curse of the Black Spot (bottom)
*airhorns* It's our second full Venn diagram! Much like 4, 11 has a lot to choose from and a really wide range of vibe throughout his run. He also has some stupidly long story titles, which are not very highly rated across the board (perhaps there's a correlation? make another graph!). Of note: the Eleventh Doctor is the only incarnation whose first and last stories are both ranked at the top by at least one of the sources (in this case, DWM and Tardis Guide) - except for the Second Doctor, to whom DWM also grants this distinguished position. I just think it's neat! [EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER NOISE: it's been pointed out that Day is not 11's last story FML. i always forget about Name [2nd Edit: TIME OF THE DOCTOR]. perhaps there's a reason it's not included in the above diagram.]
Twelfth Doctor's top/bottom four
All agree: Heaven Sent, World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls, Mummy on the Orient Express (top), Sleep No More, Kill the Moon, In the Forest of the Night (bottom) Tumblr/Tardis Guide: The Husbands of River Song (top) Tardis Guide/DWM: The Woman Who Lived (bottom) Just Tumblr: The Lie of the Land (bottom) Just DWM: Flatline (top)
More agreement than 10, less than 9. I like that the three unanimously agreed top stories of the top four are each from different series: Mummy, Heaven Sent, and WEAT/TDF. Also I really need to rewatch Sleep No More - could it be as bad as I remember?
Thirteenth Doctor's top/bottom three
All agree: The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos, Orphan 55 (bottom) Tumblr/Tardis Guide: Demons of the Punjab (top) Tardis Guide/DWM: The Haunting of Villa Diodati (top), Legend of the Sea Devils (bottom) Just Tumblr: Eve of the Daleks, Spyfall (top), The Vanquishers (bottom) Just Tardis Guide: Village of the Angels (top) Just DWM: Fugitive of the Judoon, The Power of the Doctor (top)
And last but not least, 13. It's tough for everyone to come together and say which episodes of hers we all liked, but it's very easy to point at and judge Ranskoor Av Kolos and Orphan 55. I think when the dust has settled a bit more, Demons and Haunting will be more universally praised as the highlights of her run, but opinions are still quite spread out at the moment.
I hope you enjoyed this meta-analysis as much as i enjoyed making a bunch of silly Venn diagrams.
#doctor who#venn diagrams#tardis guide#edited a copy-paste typo in 12's section#and another in 11's as well as a factual error fml#can you tell how much i pay attention to Matt Smith's era?
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I've got another confession to make: my biggest fear for the reboot has not been that they'll "pull a no homo" but that they'll have to flatten it into a conventional coming out narrative to appease the heteronormative gaze (and, ahem, the heteronormative gays). Because Cas' empowering coming out/reforming a corrupt system and Dean's coming into his identity/family already squared the circle of making queerness a substantive part of characters' growth without solely defining them by it. It's a delicate enough balance that I wouldn't want them to lose everything so naturalistic with the burden of ~educating that higher visibility too often saddles works with, or losing the way they've written to/from the queer lens and sensibility. Or undermining the canon fact that Deans Knows Himself and Cas Saved Himself.
but I don't really think they'd do that, and as this original post says, our position is looking better and better
so if we could let normie tv keep moving the needle toward It's Okay to Be Gay explainingtoababy.jpeg while Supernatural is once again spitting (not-so-)straight philosophy in Gay Heaven as our life-death-resurrection epic continues that would be poggers
"Canon Destiel in the revival would be so easy" not as in "systemic barriers to representation aren't real, lemme gaslight you about queer creatives' good faith and spread Disney's First Gay Character amnesia erasing the fact it's already canon" but as in "all they have to do is continue the queer story it already is, in the direction it was organically headed outside the censorship, as the one thread narratively demanding closure thanks to the trap our creatives set on corporate - and recent years' strides in tv representation, including their own in The Winchesters, have made it doubly absurd and volatile not to allow it this time or else WB is COOKED"
#my other (irrational) fear is they pull a Rise of Skywalker - losing their Jungian swag/coherence to appease the loudest fandom illiterates#which even the finale didn't do even if they had to confirm Cas' apotheosis in 1 line and sideline Dean's initiation to the most WTF death#but this time the bitters are the antis and the antis are the Fandom Menace#fortunately The Winchesters has proven they still know better but I'm a trauma survivor looking over my shoulder for the rest of my life
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