#Always more funny this way though

[loriache]

"I've been waiting for ages for somebody to unmask them."

This moment tends to elicit negative reactions in a first read through, and I've got some opinions about why where Kabru is coming from here actually makes a lot of logical sense. So I thought I'd elaborate on that.

I think people hear this and go, "He thinks they must be hiding something because they gave money to someone? What a cynic." Or "he dislikes them because they did charity?? What's wrong with this guy!". And obviously, a lot, a lot is wrong with him. But I think this makes more sense than it seems at first glance! What people evaluating this judgement miss is why Kabru is paying attention to Laios and co to begin with.

Kabru knows of the Touden siblings because (he's a little bit of a stalker-) he is keeping an eye on all the relevant parties in events developing on the island, in order to be able to guide them to his preferred outcome. This includes adventurers because they are the ones actually exploring the dungeon! He's well aware that something as minor as internal tensions between party members could be key to the historical events that are developing. (He would love the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.)

His desired outcome is that whatever the rewards are of breaking the dungeon's curse, whether that's kingship or the ancient elven secrets of dungeons, are claimed by:

A) a short lived person

B) Someone who will be a good, effective leader and/or use those secrets and the power they carry wisely, with foresight, and to establish a political bloc for short lived people.

The person he can best trust to do this is, of course, himself. But due to his PTSD regarding dungeons and monsters, he's not able to develop the necessary skills to conquer the dungeon. Once he realises this, he starts looking for someone else who he can support to that end.

But most of the adventurers don't have any intentions of conquering the dungeon, don't have the skills, or are unsuitable in other ways. In fact, it seems like some potentially suitable people are the Toudens. There are a lot of good rumours about them going around - they actually seem to have a very positive reputation! That's what Kabru means when he says "unmask".

So when Kabru is observing something like them giving money to an old comrade from their gold-peeling days, he doesn't consider it a problem because "they're giving money to this person who doesn't actually need it" or because they must have some dark secret if they act superficially nice. I think he actually understands this situation and what it implies about Laios (in particular) perfectly well.

Laios and Falin gave money to an old comrade who got injured and couldn't work. That person then healed up but kept taking their money. Then he used the money to start smuggling illicit goods to the island.

The key is that for Kabru, the problem here is the same as with the corpse retrievers - people using the dungeon's resources to fuel dangerous, selfish, or violent pursuits cause problems for the island, attract more criminals and people with motives other than breaking the curse, and increase the chances of the whole situation ending in tragedy.

Kabru is willing to work with the Shadow Lord of the island if it gets him to his goal - he isn't scrupulous - but the criminal element of the island increasing is something he sees as a major issue.

Also, when you're evaluating someone as a candidate for power, riches, secrets, potentially kingship - then being curious about how the money you give to people is going to be used is kind of a relevant trait!

Interpersonally, Kabru's actually very easygoing - I mean, Mickbell isn't exactly an upstanding guy, is he! But Kabru likes him and they get along well. These traits wouldn't be a problem at all in a friend, or a comrade, or someone Kabru was confident he could use. But he can't get a handle on Laios, and Laios is someone who has the potential to be a major player!

On Laios' end, this is the same as with the marriage seeker who joined their party. She kept asking for things and he gave them to her, because he tries to be nice to others. He even gives her money! It's the exact same thing.

That's fine, but it became a problem because he basically wasn't interested in her motives, didn't notice she was trying to manipulate him, and it also didn't occur to him that the other party members would notice or be affected. We can assume the situation with the gold peeler is the same. When Kabru says that "It's not that they're bad people, they just aren't interested in humans," he isn't wrong.

The extent to which this is true of Laios is linked to his autism imo, (because it isn't just disinterest - he genuinely isn't able to notice nonverbal cues that people are lying to him or have ulterior motives) but to a greater or lesser extent I think it's a very common trait. Most people aren't actually that interested in other people who aren't close to them. Kabru is the weird one here. It isn't an issue except as a leader - which is why we see an immediate comparison to the Island's Lord, because that's how Kabru is evaluating them.

And disinterest in/lack of ability with people to the extent Laios exhibits it, it does, actually, make him a worse leader... it's just that as we see in the story, people can help him out. The rest of the party tell him the marriage seeker is taking advantage of him so he tells her he can't give her special treatment anymore. They're pissed and it's a crisis point - he couldn't have recovered their trust without Marcille and Falin - but that's exactly the point. With Marcille and Falin, he was able to recover their trust.

And he has other good traits that make up for it, such as his intelligence, strategic knowledge, open-mindedness and sense of fairplay.

Kabru doesn't disqualify Laios as a candidate based on what he sees about him from afar, though - he still tries very hard to get close to him, obviously hoping that if he manages he can steer Laios to defeat the dungeon and make up for his lack of people-skills in the aftermath. (Which... he does eventually achieve that goal!) He completely fails until the events of the story, so... definitely I think "They just aren't interested in humans" could also partially be a stung reaction to Laios' complete disinterest in him.

Anyway, that's my read on what exactly Kabru's "issue" with Laios is. Obviously, once he does find out what Laios' true nature is like - about his love for monsters - he develops an entirely new set of fears about Laios' priorities. But since Laios kept that a secret until the start of the story, he has no idea of that yet.

Given all that, I think it's interesting that he says that he doesn't think that the Toudens are suitable to defeat the dungeon, and that he's hoping they'll turn out to be the thieves. As some of his few potential candidates, people who he thinks may play a big role in the island's future, you'd think he'd hope they would be good people!

I suppose it's better, in his eyes, because it means that he's involved in something "interesting". They haven't just had their stuff stolen by regular criminals (boring, puts them further away from his goal) - they've been caught up in the beginning stages of "a historic event". The desperate and dwindling group forgetting morals in their quest to retrieve their lost comrade probably appeals to his sense of melodrama. Because he also just... loves drama.

Despite it being "uglier than anything he was expecting", he still pursues Laios as the person he wants to conquer the dungeon pretty much as soon as it becomes clear that he won't be able to do it himself and they are out of time. That's because... well, to be fair, there aren't any other options. And he fits standard A: he's short-lived!

and Kabru still hopes he can fit standard B, too, and be persuaded to use the power he wins for good. No matter how many nightmares he has about Laios, or whether he thinks about killing him. He doubts him, but ultimately he puts his faith in him and seems happy after the manga's ending that he made the right decision.

[loveletterworm]

I just saw that Miki's SynthV design was accidentally(?) revealed. This is my immediate observation

[painom]

Hello! Can I just say that I really appreciate you doing this? I've always been a big fan of your analyses and your ability to get to the root of the characters. Thank you for continuing to let us read your wonderful thoughts and stories.

On your old blog, you discussed your headcannons for Lyney, one being his tendency to forget things like where he put his wallet because him and his mind are very busy. Unfortunately, I didn't save the post (my biggest regret ahhhhh!) and I would love to read your analysis once more. If it's okay with you, could you go over your headcannons for Lyney again? The old, the new, whatever's on your mind and whatever you're willing to share. Thank you so much!

Thank you for the kind ask, anon! Here you go!

New Lyney Headcanons

Self-focused - Though he never seems like it, those that know Lyney well know that he’s often running low on sleep. And really, he has no one to blame but himself. During the day he’s often distracted with magic shows, helping people, little tasks around the hotel, running missions for Father, and much more. And at night? He can often be found alone in his room planning new tricks, arranging missions for his siblings, studying to become the next “king” of the House, and things of the sort. If Lynette and Freminet didn’t keep an eye on him, no doubt he would stay up the whole night if given the chance! Those two welcome all the help they can get. 

Relationship-focused - When it comes to his relationship with you, Lyney never lies. You know he would never do that to you. And sometimes, the knowledge almost lulls you into a false sense of security. Yet you know better. You’re smarter than that. Where Lyney doesn’t lie, he omits. Half-truths so easily fall from his mouth as drops of rain from the sky. Your comments of concern are often brushed off and your questions redirected. As much as you try, you know the truth. He doesn’t want you to know. He doesn’t want you to shoulder his burdens with him. 

old lyney headcanons below!

Would Lyney be honest with you?

With his outgoing and fun personality, it oftentimes is easy to get caught within his flow. Lyney is the charming sort, after all, that one may very well forget that he is subject to the same struggles as the rest. Get to know him well enough, though, and you will quickly realize that this is not a fact he wishes others to know. More than a desire, he needs to be seen as someone in control, as someone without weakness. That’s his role as the big brother. And if that means lying, avoiding, and omitting the truth to accomplish it, then an accomplished performer like himself will do what he must. 

Does Lyney prefer to pursue or be pursued?

With a penchant for flair and dramatics, it’s clear to see Lyney prefers to pursue the people he’s interested in. Really, it’s one of the things he goes all out. With a trick up his sleeve, he won’t hesitate to dazzle you with flowers pulled from nowhere and fireworks from his tophat. He wants you to be enchanted. He wants you to be impressed! You are, aren’t you? You like it, don’t you? So focused on charming you that he often loses sight of much else. Fun fact, should you attempt to turn the tables, however, you can expect his mask of self-confidence to fall to reveal a rather flustered expression beneath. 

Headcanons

Self-focused - If there’s one thing that’s true about Lyney, it is that he is a very busy person. As a person with multiple masks and roles, his thoughts are often preoccupied with House missions, performances, new tricks, and things of the like. So, much to the dismay of others, it’s easy for things to become buried under the multitude of other tasks he needs to take care of. How often the simple things become forgotten—where he last left his wallet, tea time with his siblings, the sale on storybooks at the bookstore. During those times, he really can’t help but appreciate his siblings and their ability to keep him on track. Really, he doesn’t know what he’d do without them!

Relationship-focused - It doesn’t hit you at first, but it doesn’t take you very long to notice how hard Lyney tries for your relationship. Normally this would be a good thing, but it is different with Lyney. Every day he tries to charm you. Every day he attempts to enchant you. You tell him he doesn’t need to try so hard, but that only seems to light a fire beneath him to do even more. You see it in his eyes. He needs to know you are still in awe of him, that you like him as much as he does you. And then it sinks in, doesn’t it? He doesn’t trust you. He doesn’t trust your feelings for him. He’ll never show his true face to you.

old tags for this post: #okay let’s talk lyney for a bit i think the biggest thing to know about lyney is that at his core he is an insecure person insecure and anxious #imo he’s extremely attached to his title of ‘big brother’ that he needs to fulfill the duties if such he needs to protect his siblings and be a person others can rely on #this belief is so strong that he refuses to rely on arlecchino for help and snaps at freminet for trying to get him to open up #he really cares about the way he’s perceived #remember when the traveler found out he’s part of the fatui and he spends his time bending over backwards to try to get them to trust him ‘like me! like me! please. i’m trustworthy i’ll never lie to you please!!’ #honestly imo that’s just one if his faults like lyney is unstable #idk what possessed arlecchino to make him her successor like he’d crack under pressure #lynette is a way better option #but anyway bc of these things he would not trust his partner in a relationship #he wouldn’t rely on them he’d never feel secure which would prompt him to keep trying too hard to ensure he’s still the person he thinks you fell in love with #the most important thing to remember with lyney is that he is a performer and the face he shows to the world is essentially a mask

What’s Lyney’s breaking point in a relationship?

It’s hard to imagine, really. With how much Lyney may seem in love, the idea there’s a point a relationship would be too much for him is hard to believe. But when you really think about it, his breaking point is simple. As strong as his feelings may be for you, his devotion to his family and its cause outweighs everything else. Should your relationship with him ever reach a time where it encroaches upon that which is the most precious to him, then there’s nothing more he can do than let you go.

old tags for this post: #i think the key thing to take in here is that lyney cannot function without his family he is extremely reliant upon them to the extent that he will become unstable without them #just look at the archon quest when wriothesley captured his siblings any and all logic completely went out the window #lyney is an anxious insecure mess and the only thing that holds him together is playing the role he has to as big brother #if your relationship with him ever reaches the point that you transcend into being counted as his family.... he will have no breaking point #the breaking point will be his mind or body. whichever breaks first

[soultiio]

how funny it is that you are the first to crack

[ganondoodle]

kind of expected that the ability breakdown wouldnt get that much traction (especially on twitter bc if it doesnt do well in the first few hours it might as well be dead) but what i didnt need to wake up to was looking at my twitter notifications and thinking there was a long comment on it at first but then i read it and it turned out to be some guy having dug up one of my old totk tweets where i talked about how zelda was treated-

and if a quote retweet with a thread attached already starts with "this entitled brat didnt understand that zelda was being a history nerd by being in the past and getting to experience it herself" with two screenshots attached of the end of totk with zelda staring at the cam all uwu (which has ??? to do with their point??) i dont even want to know what else was in that thread

if thats how the majority of the fandom is then im even less surprised that nintendy doesnt even have to try to write anything good :I

ah yes, i am a game nerd, and by putting me in a game where i stand around doing puppy dog eyes while being shoved around by NPCs is me being a game nerd OBVIOSULY

[shiningstarr15]

Fated by the Cosmos ✨💫

Something about two stars being pulled into each other’s gravitational orbit and moving so fluid and in close proximity that they essentially become one, or whatever 😬🤷‍♀️

Doublestar Duo/Binarystar Duo fans rejoice ⭐️⭐️

Can you tell I’m obsessed with them?

Alt. Vers under cut

Original w/o text

Golden Princess and Little Knight 💛🗡️👑 (this one’s criminally underrated)

[skunkes]

Hi, assuming you’ve already talked about it, but is Al kind of like a self ship thing? Same with talon?

Yes! Al is my imaginary bf i made him when i was around age 11-12 but didnt start "dating" him until high school (maybe 14-15?) (another oc of mine was my imaginary bf before him LOL)

Talon was made like 2 years ago? And it takes me a while to develop characters and im bad at making plots so I put him in a room with al in my brain to figure him out as a character and now he's part of all this too...i needed reinforcements due to recent turmoil wee hee i need the duality of delicious bear and decrepit twink i heart self shipping

[ohsweetflips]

my neutral dragon age trait is that 50% of the time i'm like "the more i critique the games, the more i love them. i can appreciate each game for what they are but my criticism and frustration over what they could be are a sign of love" and the other 50% is like "this is the writing of the dragon age series. sure. why not. this may as well happen."

[coquelicoq]

just got a promotionnnnnn

[uncanny-tranny]

Over the years, I've gotten a lot of cis people messaging me about how they should go about dating or courting somebody who's trans, and I always felt like my responses would almost... disappoint them because there isn't this magic secret to dating us.

Cis people, if you want to date us, just date us. We're human beings, we're not wild animals to tame! I promise you can have a healthy relationship with a trans person without needing to feel like the world will end if you mess up.

Trans people who date cis people often want to feel secure in your acceptance of them. You don't have to talk about our transness for hours on end to prove that you accept your loved one. You don't have to put on a display and cabaret about how Much You Accept Us. Just be a person around us, and let us be people, too!

I almost want to disappoint cis people by reminding them of this. Some of the best relationships I've had with cis people have been ones where my transness is acknowledged, sure, but it's acknowledged in the same way that my left-handedness is. It's not a joke to them, it isn't something to be horrified about, but it's also something that they don't objectify me for.

[deus-ex-mona]

favourite stupid relationship dynamic: idiots who would immediately protect and defend the other but never themself

[pynkhues]

Apologies for bringing twitter stupidity to your tumblr, but I feel like I need a reality check lol. While the large majority of ppl who commented on that photo the fan in Sydney took with Sam were just saying how pretty or cute or rejuvenated he looked, the wet slicked-back hair and the angle, with his head tilted back so the hair is less visible, made some people start saying that he was losing his hair, and then a few people even started saying that Jacob and Assad were losing their hair too. And I just need to check that I'm not crazy because, with Sam, it's like, we just saw him 20 days ago? And he looked like this??

https://ton.x.com/i/ton/data/dm/1910615867832086697/1910615720955904000/xUuXOCoz.jpg:medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqMfH9lW0AA0hAZ?format=jpg&name=medium

And two years ago when they were filming s2 he looked like this, which seems exactly the way he looks in the fan pic with his hair pulled back tightly?:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GqN2g_QbkAAsSMC?format=jpg&name=large

So unless they think he lost significant hair in the last few weeks, I don't get it. And with Jacob and Assad, I don't get it. Someone posted post s2 photos of them and they didn't look different to me from the s1 photos? Am I wrong? And where does this come from? I mean honestly it's not that many people, it was a lot fewer people making these comments than it was people talking about the people making the comments (which honestly is so often the way. I usually hear about something negative on twitter not because I come across it myself but because I read someone else commenting on it angrily). But is it anxiety that these men are playing vampires who aren't meant to age and yet they may show some human signs of aging if the show goes long enough? And maybe that's especially centered around Sam as a blonde man living in a sunny country (even though his skin has truly never looked smoother and glowier lol).

I mean, I can't say I'm particularly surprised, anon.

You're kind of asking me a whole bunch of questions here, haha, so I'll answer as succinctly as I can, but like - - yeah, the context of how and when pictures are taken matters. Of course all of them are going to look better in professionally taken photos at events they're professionally styled for than in candids where they're literally just hanging out in their hometowns, of course angles and lighting has an impact, but also of course they all look a little older today than they did three years ago, because they are? There's nothing wrong with that - all three of them look great (and I personally would say have aged pretty minimally), and the handwringing over it feels - -

I don't know.

Well, that's not true, I have my suspicions, haha. I think it's partially a manifestation of a global culture drenched in youth fetishisation, of which, to be fair, the vampire subgenre has been a part of at least since the 70s, from Valerie and Her Week of Wonders to The Lost Boys to Twilight to The Vampire Diaries - - hell, Anne herself writes it, given the Lestat of the book is an eternal 21. I think it's partially a fear that if the actors age, they might no longer look like they did in 1.01, or worse, that they might no longer find them 'hot', and I also think a big part of it is people trying to be funny or signal to a certain crowd that they can hang.

I also - - mm. I've mentioned this once before, but I do also think there's a little bit of a degree of inexperience in parts of the fandom, and while there's nothing wrong with that at ALL, I do think that there's a small subset within that cohort who read as female-incels to me. These are the ones who really go after the cast, particularly Sam, but not just him, in a way that feels deliberately punishing and obsessive, and I think for them these sorts of comments are lowkey a sort of negging akin to guys who feel the need to comment when they think an actress is starting to look haggard.

In that sense, I think it's both specific and really broad to internet culture, and really, unfortunately, I just think it is what it is.

[lunatic-fandom-space]

Ive been thinking about this. So, there are a few productions where der Tod is supposed to only have a romantic relationship with Elisabeth, like, their relationship is "special" because hes never been in love before, whch I dont like because I always thought that hes Like That with everyone, or atleast with everyone who thinks about death and dying a lot, its just presented as special because Elisabeth is the central character. But whatever, some productions wanna make it extra amatonormative romantic so hes never felt that kind of love towards anyone before and will never feel it again after the story is done, I know thats definitely the case in the takarazuka production and I think thats also what they did for the hungarian production (i havent seen that one in a while so im not sure) and from what Ive heard about the newer austrain productions, it seems like they do it like that as well. Okay, sure, Elisabeth is der Tods one true love, why not, yay heterosexuality. But then why is doing all that shit Rudolf though

[moeblob]

10/10 is Lon'qu Day so here we go, a 10 out of 10 family.

[helpmyinterestsareverywhere]

Whenever I pick up a Lloyd LEGO set and see a blue figure included I like to try and ignore it and play a game of "is it gonna be Jay or Nya?" and not find out until I get to build it

(It's a win-win situation everytime - i love them both <3)

[trappedinafantasy37]

lemme get that good daedra lore >:3 with a 2, 6, 10, and 19 !!

Hot steaming plate of Daedra lore coming right up @majorasnightmare! Sorry for taking so long with this one. Orin and Daedra's relationship is one I seldom talk about so it's nice to really dive into the doomed siblings relationship.

2. What was their relationship with Orin like immediately before the tadpole lobotomy? Was Orin sure in her decision, or did she regret what she was going to do?

There was a lot of tension between the two of them because Daedra could feel that the day was approaching and knew Orin was going to try to kill her soon. But felt that Orin wasn't ready yet. Orin had also grown increasingly envious of Daedra, despising the fact that everyone loved her and Daedra didn't even appreciate the adoration and worship that she got. She didn't think it was fair that even after all the work she had done, no one likes her, nobody cares about her, and she can feel Daedra's shadow constantly casted over her. She did start to grow irritated with all of Daedra's lessons, reminding her over and over that she isn't good enough when Orin knows that she is good enough and she is owed acknowledgment for the accomplishments she has made so far. And she was going to prove to Daedra that she was good enough, she wanted to surpass the master.

And as far as Orin was concerned, she did succeed. Although Orin did not realize that Daedra had planned the ambush and was counting on Orin doing what she did, she saw it as a personal victory. And she wanted to rub it in Daedra's face, constantly reminding her over and over and over that she was just as good as her. No, she was better than Daedra. She took out the Dread Ambusher and now believes she deserves that title because she earned it.

After the dinner party and claiming Minthara for herself, Orin was having her fun torturing Minthara down in the mind flayer colony. Daedra beginning to stir awake in one of the pods made Orin less sure of her success because Daedra was still alive. Running on pure adrenaline, realizing that she was still alive, Daedra did try to flee. But Orin gave chase and stabbed at Daedra some more, blinded by rage, envy, and an overwhelming sense of failure. Daedra did scream out, trying to fight back, but Orin just kept stabbing, screaming at the drow for making her feel so pathetic and useless her entire life. She blamed Daedra for her own mistreatment by Bhaal, feeling that Bhaal only looked down on her because Daedra looked down on her and if she could just kill Daedra, then maybe daddy would love her and that's all she wants. She just wants someone to love her, to like her, and tell her she is good enough because Daedra never would.

After returning to Baldur's Gate and becoming Chosen, Orin did take enjoyment and amusement from every report Kressa had sent back to Gortash. She reveled in the fact that Daedra was suffering. She took pleasure knowing that she was in complete, eh heh, absolute control over Daedra. And then her confidence shattered when she learned that Daedra had been put on a Nautiloid, and then that Nautiloid disappeared. The day she learned that Daedra was indeed still alive sent Orin through a whirlwind and any sense of accomplishment came crumbling down. Daedra always made her feel like a failure, but the fact that Daedra is still alive, in control of her faculties, killed Ketheric, earned the Slayer, AND had stolen Minthara from her was proof that she was a failure. Everything she had accomplished in Daedra's absence, Daedra had very quickly undone in a matter of weeks. And to make it worse, Daedra was made into a fucking idiot and still managed to be more successful than Orin could ever dream.

6. Does your Durge consider Orin a sibling? Do they think of her as family at all?

No. Daedra acknowledges that they are related by blood, even if that relation is diluted and a little merky with all the incest stuff. Daedra already has a family, but they are dead and buried in Menzoberranzan and does not care to have another one. She never comes to consider Sarevok, Orin, Bhaal, or any other Bhaalspawn as family.

This isn't to say that Daedra didn't care about Orin, because she did. She didn't love Orin nor did she harbor affection, but knew her contingency plan to free herself from Bhaal was dependent on Orin. She did see herself as Orin's personal mentor, grooming Orin in the same way the headmistress from Arach Tinilith had groomed her (and I'm just going to let you look up who that is...). From her vantage, she did see a bit of herself in Orin and recognized almost a little bit too late that she created a little chaos machine, one much much more chaotic than she is. Daedra had to learn the painful way on how to control herself and keep her own urges in check when she was young. But Orin didn't care to control the urges and indulged in them, making it much harder to control Orin or to teach Orin control. Not to mention, Daedra already has a century of experience over Orin and had much more time to learn, while Orin is practically a child in her eyes even when fully grown. Daedra was also very calculated in her defiance, but Orin was nothing but rebellious for rebellions sake. Daedra was classically trained on how to raise a cult, but she was not trained on how to raise a person and she royally fucked up with Orin.

10. What did your Durge really feel about Orin’s art?

Daedra will never say it, she will never admit it, but she actually does really like Orin's art. She sees Orin's art as an extension of herself, and a way to express what she feels what she cannot say. It is something that Bhaal cannot force and cannot control, similar to how Bhaal cannot truly break Daedra's connection to Lolth no matter how hard he tries. It meant that Orin was creative and capable of thinking outside of the box, something other Bhaalists just do not do. Many Bhaalists walk the line and rarely stray from what Bhaal, or even Daedra would say. Orin was different, constantly challenging everything and she expressed it in her art as art in of itself is an act of rebellion. She was constantly demonstrating just how much she stood out from all other the other cultists which is a big no-no amongst cults. Cults HATE individualism and that's what Orin insisted on being. Now, chaotic rule breaker Daedra would normally appreciate someone being a chaotic rule breaker, except it was her own rules that Orin was constantly violating and it pissed her off. It is one of the many reasons why Daedra saw Orin as the only true threat amongst the Bhaal cult because Orin was always going to do whatever the hell she wanted and knew Orin had the potential of becoming unstoppable.

19. Does your Durge remember anything of Orin between waking up on the nautiloid and meeting her in Act 3? Do they recognise her in Moonrise?

Before she was put onto the Nautiloid, the Absolute was learning how to erase people and was in the process of slowly erasing Daedra's mind, fracturing her psyche. But it didn't erase everything entirely before she was moved onto the Nautiloid. When Daedra landed face first on the beach, just minutes away from dying, the only thing she saw in her mind was Orin's eyes. She saw the rage in Orin's eyes, and the tears streaming down Orin's cheeks. She could not remember why because the Absolute erased it, but she could recognize that this strange woman was angry at her. And then Shadowheart came along and healed her, causing her brain to rewire itself. Shadowheart's healing was the true death of the old Daedra, and gave birth to the little chaos goblin many of you have come to love. But those old memories still linger around in her mind because the Absolute didn't fully erase them.

When she sees Orin in Moonrise, Daedra doesn't recognize Orin necessarily. But she does remember Orin's eyes. She remembers the rage and the hatred that was directed towards her. But Daedra, having issues with her short-term memory and object permanence, quickly forgets this the moment Orin is out of her sight.