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Danaë in her tower
Sometimes her prison is an underground chamber (which is probably the version y’all are familiar with) but I like the one with the tower bc it ties her to Rapunzel, ever since I’ve realized their commonalities I’ve been thinking about them lol
I like to think Danaë took up several hobbies to pass the time much like Rapunzel, but unlike Rapunzel, she actually remembers her life before her imprisonment and misses her friends, the girls she’s playing with in the fresco are her cousins Nyctaea and Iphianassa.
#greek mythology#ancient greek mythology#greek pantheon#perseus#Danae#danaë#Argos#Acrisius#Nyctaea#Zeus#Iphianassa
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King Acrisius: That bastard son of my daughter is a monster! A MONSTER!
Baby Perseus:
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PERSEUS & CIA (PART 1)
Part 2 here!
This post is basically me gathering information about the myths of Perseus and, by extension, Danae, Andromeda and Medusa. I like these characters from what I've seen superficially, so this was basically just me trying to get to know them better. I actually started writing this in a doc for myself, because it would be easier for me to compare the versions, but I decided to post it in case anyone else was as curious as I was. First of all, a few details:
The sources aren’t in chronological order, but rather in order of which source I remembered to write about here first precisely because I had not initially written it with the intention of posting it.
By “alternative myth” I mean myths that actually change the situation a lot, not variants that are just details. I think most of them are rationalized versions, but there are a few others that I considered alternatives as well. One of them includes Proetus as Perseus’ father (pretty obvious why I considered it a variant), another has Athena as the motivation for Medusa’s death (only because Pseudo-Apollodorus, at least in the translation I read, writes it as if it were a different version than Polydectes’ and not a version with an extra detail), and another has Perseus fighting Dionysus (not because it’s a very late version, although it really is, but because it seems really lost in terms of chronology when compared to the more usual myth).
Since I know people are especially sensitive about Greek vs. Roman myth when it comes to the Perseus myth, let me be clear: in this post, I am talking about Greek sources, not Roman sources. I do, however, consider later Greek sources, whether from the Roman or Byzantine period, and they can certainly be influenced by Roman versions. But since they were clearly used by Greeks at some point, I genuinely don't see why I should disregard them. Furthermore, there are three Roman sources here. Fabulae and Astronomica, attributed to Hyginus, will be considered because they explicitly relate Greek myths, the author even credits the version he is talking about. The other is a book by Aelianus, and you will understand why. Other than that, there are no other Roman sources. The reason is that I don’t know enough about Rome.
I'm not a historian, classicist or anything like that. It's just a hobby. So yeah, I can be mistaken.
I'm not fluent in English, which might be obvious in a long post like this.
DANAE
Family
Danae is the daughter of Acrisius, king of Argos (this is constant) with Eurydice, daughter of Lacedaemon or Eurotas, or with Aganippe.
Danae was the daughter of Acrisius and Aganippe. [...]
Fabulae, 63. Translation by Mary Grant.
[2.2.2] And Acrisius had a daughter Danae by Eurydice, daughter of Lacedaemon [...]
Library, 2.2.2. Translation by J.G. Frazer.
[...] Acrisius, the king of the Argives, and Eurydice, the daughter of Eurotas, had a daughter named Danae. [...]
Ad Lycophronem, 838.
Pseudo-Apollodorus' version is inspired by Hesiod's version.
Apollodorus, ii. 2.1.4: Acrisius was king of Argos and Proetus of Tiryns. And Acrisius had by Eurydice the daughter of Lacedemon, Danae; and Proetus by Stheneboea "Lysippe and Iphinoe and Iphianassa'. And these fell mad, as Hesiod states, because they would not receive the rites of Dionysus.
Catalogues of Women, frag 18. Translation by H.G. Evelyn-White.
Confinement and Zeus
Well, the first mention we have of Zeus and Danae having Perseus is in the Iliad, when Hera seduces Zeus in order to give Poseidon time to intervene in the Trojan War on behalf of the Achaeans. In this scene, Zeus gives a long speech listing several of his lovers/victims in a sort of "none of these many women I've cheated on you with have ever aroused my desire as much as you have." One of those mentioned is Danae, daughter of Acrisius, and there are no more details about her.
[...] not when I loved Acrisius' daughter Danaё — marvelous ankles — and Perseus sprang to life and excelled all men alive. [...]
The Iliad, 14.383-384. Translation by Robert Fagles
Pindar mentions Perseus as the son of Danae conceived in a spontaneous shower of gold.
[..] Perseus, the son of Danae, who they say was conceived in a spontaneous shower of gold [...]
Pythian Ode 12. Translation by Diane Arnson Svarlien.
In Sophocles' Antigone, the Chorus says that the beautiful Danae was confined in a “chamber” with “brass-bound walls”, but this didn’t stop Zeus, as he impregnated her in the form of golden rain.
So too endured Danae in her beauty to change the light of the sky for brass-bound walls, and in that chamber, both burial and bridal, she was held in strict confinement. And yet was she of esteemed lineage, my daughter, and guarded a deposit of the seed of Zeus that had fallen in a golden rain.
Antigone. Translation by Sir Richard Jebb.
In Lycophron's Alexandra, Perseus is referred by Cassandra as “the eagle son of the golden Sire”, which refers to both Perseus being the son of Zeus and the fact that this pregnancy happened because of a golden rain.
[...] the eagle son of the golden Sire – a male with winged sandals [...]
Alexandra. Translation by A.W. Mair.
The scholia of this poem by Ioannis Tzetzes tells how Acrisius heard from an oracle that he would be killed by the son of Danae and therefore locked her in an iron chamber so that she would remain a virgin. Zeus, however, impregnated her in the form of golden rain.
[...] The story goes like this: Acrisius, the king of the Argives, and Eurydice, the daughter of Eurotas, had a daughter named Danae. Acrisius, her father, having made an iron chamber, locked her up so that she would remain a virgin in this way: for he had heard from an oracle that he would be killed by her offspring. Zeus, as they say, turned himself into gold and, having poured through a hole, mingled with her and she conceived Perseus in her womb. [...]
Ad Lycophronem, 838.
Hyginus says that there was a prophecy saying that Acrisius would die at the hands of his daughter's son. This caused him to confine Danae to a "stone-walled prison". Danae still gave birth to Perseus, because Zeus — here Jove, as Hyginus tells the myths to a Roman audience — impregnated her in the form of a golden rain.
[...] A prophecy about her said that the child she bore would kill Acrisius, and Acrisius, fearing this, shut her in a stone-walled prison. But Jove, changing into a shower of gold, lay with Danae, and from this embrace Perseus was born. [...]
Fabulae, 63. Translation by Mary Grant.
Diodorus Siculus says that Perseus was the son of Danae and Zeus, but he doesn't give any details. Some other sources do the same as Diodorus and Homer (that is, indicate Perseus' genealogy without giving any details), and I won't mention those here because, well, you get the idea. I'll focus on the ones that mention the golden rain.
This, then, is the story as it has been given us: Perseus was the son of Danaê, the daughter of Acrisius, and Zeus. [...]
Library of History, 4.9.1. Translation by C.H. Oldfather.
Pseudo-Apollodorus says that Acrisius asked the oracle about when he would have sons, and instead received the prophecy that his daughter's son would kill him. Acrisius then decided to imprison Danae in a bronze tower to prevent her from getting pregnant, which didn’t work because Zeus impregnated her in the form of golden rain.
[2.4.1] When Acrisius inquired of the oracle how he should get male children, the god said that his daughter would give birth to a son who would kill him. Fearing that, Acrisius built a brazen chamber under ground and there guarded Danae.[...] but some say that Zeus had intercourse with her in the shape of a stream of gold which poured through the roof into Danae's lap. [...]
Library, 2.4.1. Translation by J.G. Frazer.
Euripides wrote a lost play entitled Danae, which dealt with this theme. I will not include translations of the fragments as it would be too long, so I’ll stick with the summary by the editors and translators Christopher Collard and Martin Cropp. But from what I read, there were lines from Acrisius commenting on having children and the difference between sons and daughers, Danae (this one is debatable) commenting on social injustices (more specifically, related to money), Hermes summarizing the situation and the Chorus, as typical, responding to the characters. The Chorus here is female.
DANAE, APPENDIX: F 1132 This extraordinary confection has a disputed bearing on the plot and reconstruction of the authentic play. The play opening (vv. 1-65) has been dated almost certainly to the 5th-6th c. A.D. on grounds of its style and versification, but there is an unresolved argument about the origin, and therefore credibility, of the hypothesis' that precedes it; this is very similar to the narrative in Lucian 78.12 telling how the Nereids rescued the chest containing Danae and the infant Perseus. W. Luppe, ZPE 87 (1991),1-7 and 95 (1993), 65-9 argues that it goes back to the "Tales from Euripides' (see General Introduction). H. Van Looy does not expressly dissent (ed. Budé VIII.2.55-8), but R. Kannicht, ZPE 90 (1992), 33-4 and TrGF 5.1030 maintains that its detail indeed derives from Lucian and cannot safely be used in reconstructing Euripides' play. DANAE Hypothesis of Danae: Acrisius a king of Argos, responding (as he would) to some oracle, shut up his daughter Danae in her maiden's quarters and kept watch on her; she was very beautiful. Zeus fell in love with her, and as he had no way of having intercourse with her, he changed himself into gold and poured through the roof into the maiden's embrace, and made her pregnant. When her time came, Danae gave birth to a child, Perseus. On learning this Acrisius put both mother and baby into a chest, and ordered it thrown into the sea. The Nereids saw this and, from pity at what had happened, put the chest into the nets of fishermen of Seriphos; and then the mother was saved together with her baby, which when it reached manhood was named Perseus. Characters of the play: Hermes, Danae, Nurse, Acrisius, Messenger, Chorus, Athena.
One new element is that during Hermes' summary, we get more details about Danae. Here it’s made explicit that not only did she have no idea that the golden rain was Zeus impregnating her, but she was also completely frightened when she learned of the pregnancy. She tried to escape safely from Argos, fearing Acrisius's reaction, but was discovered and so Acrisius, enraged, had her imprisoned to watch her. Here Danae apparently wasn’t confined when Zeus impregnated her, but was confined after she was impregnated. Judging by certain fragments, Acrisius apparently thinks that it was a mortal man who did this.
Sophocles wrote a play entitled Acrisius, sometimes considered to be the same as his other lost play entitled Danae (some plays had double names. But it is debatable whether this is the case with Danae and Acrisius, and the book I am using as a reference considers the plays separately), which seemed to deal with this subject. According to Ioanna Karamanou, the surviving fragments depict Acrisius as being quite afraid of something, most likely the prophecy of his death, and there are also fragments that point to a conflict between Danae and her father. Furthermore, Perseus is never mentioned, although there is a certain term used that may denote the idea of conception, although this could simply refer to Danae's pregnancy and does not necessarily indicate that Perseus was born. Indeed, it may even refer to Danae's hypothetical pregnancy, prophesied by the oracle. Terms associated with walls are theorized to refer to the brazen chamber (as the term used also has associations with metals) in which Danae was confined.
On the other hand, Sophocles' lost play Danae, which Karamanou believes to be a different play from the lost Acrisius, explicitly refers to Perseus in a passage that likely shows Acrisius rejecting Danae's claim that she was a victim of sexual abuse and therefore the pregnancy is not her fault. Karamanou theorizes that Acrisius was about the prophecy and the moments before Danae's actual confinement — references to the chamber in this context would be Acrisius planning —, while Danae was possibly about the confinement, the pregnancy, and the her and Perseus being thrown into the sea inside a chest.
According to the Byzantine Encyclopedia Suda, the comic poet Sannyrion is said to have written a work entitled Danae.
Athenian, comic poet. These are his plays: Laughter, Danae, Io, Coolers in the Shade; according to Athenaeus in Deipnosphistai.
Suda, sigma,93. Translation by David Whitehead.
Karamanou commented on a surviving fragment as follows: “presents someone as trying to change form, in order to sneak into somewhere [...] a reasonable assumption is that this character could be Zeus, trying to transform himself, in order to reach and seduce Danae. Fr.10 K.-A. of the same play praises the maiden's beauty” (pg 13).��
She also mentioned that the classical poet Eubulus wrote a lost play also entitled Danae. A surviving fragment is a speech by Danae and is possibly a paratragic lament in lyric iambics. In academia, it’s widely theorized that Danae is referring to her rape by Zeus, which wouldn’t be unusual since Greek comedies had rape as a common theme. She also says: "In even more specific terms, these lines could be paralleled to the description of Pamphile's reaction to her rape in Menander's Epitrepontes". Therefore, Danae here would be having a common action of maidens in comedy.
And finally:
The title Chrysochoos of Diphilus' play ('one who pours in as gold', which may well connote Zeus' transformation), in conjunction with fr. 85 K.-A. presenting someone as peeping at a pretty girl from the smoke-hole (for lovers sneaking into women's chambers from the smokehole, cf. Xenarchus' Pentathlos fr. 4.11 K.-A.), could suggest that the play was a burlesque of Danae's seduction by Zeus. Comic illustrations of Zeus as secret lover, as that depicted on a phlyax-vase in the Vatican, also point in this direction.64 The theme of Danae's seduction by Zeus transformed into golden shower was a source of artistic inspiration, as emerges from fifth and fourth-century iconography (LIMC s.v. 'Danae' figg. 1-12, 24-31). In literature from the end of the fourth century onwards (starting with Menander's Samia, cf. T6 and note ad loc.), this subject became proverbial.
Euripides Danae and Dictys: Introduction, Text and Commentary, by Iaonna Karamanou, pg 14.
This myth has also been represented in visual art, for example: 1, 2, 3, 4.
Alternative myth
Pseudo-Apollodorus mentions a rare version in which Perseus' father is Proetus, twin brother of Acrisus and therefore uncle of Danae. His seducing Danae caused the brothers to have a quarrel.
[...] However, she was seduced, as some say, by Proetus, whence arose the quarrel between them [...]
Library, 2.4.1. Translation by J.G. Frazer.
Journey
In one part of Apollonius Rhodius' poem, Arete mentions that Danae had to endure hardships at sea because of her father. She says this to her husband, Alcinous, in order to sensitize him to the cause of the Argonauts after being convinced by Medea to help them.
“[...] What woes did Danae endure on the wide sea through her sire's mad rage! [...]”
Argonautica, Book 4. Translation by R.C. Seaton.
According to Pseudo-Apollodorus, Danae gave birth to Perseus after being impregnated by Zeus in the form of a golden rain. When Acrisius found out, he didn’t believe that the father of the child was Zeus and put both daughter and grandson in a chest and threw them into the sea. The chest reached Seriphus, where Dictys found them and raised Perseus.
[2.4.1] [...] When Acrisius afterwards learned that she had got a child Perseus, he would not believe that she had been seduced by Zeus, and putting his daughter with the child in a chest, he cast it into the sea. The chest was washed ashore on Seriphus, and Dictys took up the boy and reared him.
Library, 2.4.1. Translation by J.G. Frazer.
Although Pausanias doesn’t describe the myth in detail, he does mention a temple in which Dictys and his wife, Clytemene, were honored as saviors of Perseus. It’s therefore possible to deduce that this is the typical version in which Dictys finds the chest. Furthermore, this Clytemene doesn’t seem to be a very frequent character in the other surviving sources.
[2.18.1] By the side of the road from Mycenae to Argos there is on the left hand a hero-shrine of Perseus. The neighboring folk, then, pay him honors here, but the greatest honors are paid to him in Seriphus and among the Athenians, who have a precinct sacred to Perseus and an altar of Dictys and Clymene, who are called the saviours of Perseus. [...]
Description of Greece, 2.18.1. Translation by W.H.S. Jones.
According to Tzetzes, Acrisius discovered that Danae was pregnant and waited for her to give birth. After Perseus was born, Acrisius put both his daughter and grandson in a wooden chest and threw them into the sea. The chest arrived in Seriphus, where Poseidon's demigod Polydectes reigned. His brother, Dictys, then treated Perseus as a son and took care of Danae.
[...] When her father learned of this, he waited for her to give birth and, having put her and the baby in a wooden chest, he threw them into the sea, which carried them to the island of Seriphos, one of the Cyclades, where Polydectes, the son of Poseidon and Cerebia, ruled. Polydectes had a brother named Dictys, who treated Perseus as his own son and took care of Danae. [...]
Ad Lycophronem, 838.
Strabo says that Perseus and Danae were found by Dictys.
And there is Seriphos, the scene of the mythical story of Dictys, who with his net drew to land the chest in which were enclosed Perseus and his mother Danae, who had been sunk in the sea by Acrisius the father of Danae; for Perseus was reared there [...]
Geography, 10.5.10. Translation by H. L. Jones.
This myth has also been represented in visual art, for example: 1, 2, 3.
Alternative myth
According to Hyginus, one version tells that when Acrisius found out about Perseus, he put his daughter and grandson in a chest and threw it into the sea. But they didn’t die because Zeus made sure the two arrived safely at Seriphus, where the fisherman Dictys found them. Danae married Polydectes, king of Seriphus, and he raised Perseus in the temple of Athena. The “alternative” part of this myth is precisely that Polydectes isn’t an antagonist, as is usual.
[...] Because of her sin her father shut her up in a chest with Perseus and cast it into the sea. By Jove's will it was borne to the island of Seriphos, and when the fisherman Dictys found it and broke it open, he discovered the mother and child. He took them to King Polydectes, who married Danae and brought up Perseus in the temple of Minerva. [...]
Fabulae, 63. Translation by Mary Grant.
Aeschylus wrote a satirical version entitled The Net-Draggers which dealt with the rescue of Danae and Perseus, although the play is lost. I am including it as an alternative simply because I am not sure how much the satirical tone of the play interfered with the plot. The presence of satyrs is certainly an unusual element of the Perseus myth, although typical of satires. It was originally part of a trilogy by Aeschylus which was entirely about the Perseus myth, the other two plays being The Phorcydes and Polydectes.
One of the surviving fragments appears to be of Dictys discovering the chest. There are theories that the person he’s talking to may have been a slave. It’s also theorized that Dictys had help from satyrs.
?—Can you see . . .? DICTYS. —I can see. . . . ? —What do you want me to look out for? . . . DICTYS. —In case anywhere . . . in the sea. . . . —Not a sign; so far as I can see, the sea’s a mill-pond. DICTYS. —Look now at the crannies of the cliffs by the shore. ? —All right, I’m looking. . . . Good Lord, what am I to call this! Is it a monster of the sea that meets my eyes, a grampus or a shark or a whale? Lord Poseidon and Zeus of the deep, a fine gift to send up from the sea . . .! DICTYS. —What gift of the sea does your net conceal? It’s covered with seaweed like. . . . Is it some warm-blooded creature? Or has the Old Man of the Islands sent us something in a chest? How tremendously heavy it is! the work’s not going ahead! I’ll shout and raise an alarm. HALLO THERE! Farmers and ditchers, this way, all of you! Herdsmen and shepherds, anyone in the place! Coastal folk and all you other toilers of the sea!...
The Net-Draggers, fragment 274. Translation by Hugh Lloyd-Jones.
Another fragment shows an interaction between Danae and an uncertain person, although this translator (and most translators, from what I have noticed) have gone with the possible assumption that it may have been the god Silenus. Danae is asking for divine help and trying to obtain protection. Perseus doesn’t has lines, as he’s still too young.
SILENUS. [765] . . . I call upon . . . and the gods to witness what I now proclaim to the whole company. But whatever you do, don’t rush recklessly away from us; understand at last and accept me as a most kindly protector and supporter. Why, look, the boy is greeting me with friendly words, as he would his respected grandmother. Won’t he always be the same towards me, as time goes on? DANAË [773] Rivers of Argos and gods of my fathers, and you, Zeus, who bring my ordeal to such an end! Will you give me to these beasts, so that they may outrage me with their savage onslaughts, or so that I endure in captivity the worst of tortures? Anyhow, I shall escape. Shall I then knot myself a noose, applying a desperate remedy against this torture, so that no one may put me to sea again, neither a lascivious beast nor a father? No, I am afraid to! Zeus, send me some help in this plight, I beg you! for you were guilty of the greater fault, but it is I who have paid the full penalty. I call upon you to set things right! You have heard all I have to say. CHORUS. [786] Look, the little one is smiling sweetly as he looks on his shining raddled bald pate. . . . Qualis vero amator mentularum est hic pusillus!
[SILENUS.] [788] . . . if I don’t rejoice in the sight of you. Damnation take Dictys, who is trying to cheat me of this prize behind my back! [To Perseus.] Come here, my dearie! [He makes chuckling noises.] Don’t be frightened! Why are you whimpering? Over here to my sons, so that you can come to my protecting arms, dear boy—I’m so kind—, and you can find pleasure in the martens and fawns and the young porcupines, and can make a third in bed with your mother and with me your father. And daddy shall give, the little one his fun. And you shall lead a healthy life, so that one day, when you’ve grown strong, you yourself—for your father’s losing his grip on his fawn-killing footwork—you yourself shall catch beasts without a spear, and shall give them to your mother for dinner, after the fashion of her husband’s family, amongst whom you’ll be earning your keep. CHORUS [821] Come now, dear fellows, let us go and hurry on the marriage, for the time is ripe for it and without words speaks for it. Why, I see that already the bride is eager to enjoy our love to the full. No wonder: she spent a long time wasting away all lonely in the ship beneath the foam. Well, now that she has before her eyes our youthful vigour, she rejoices and exults; such is the bridegroom that by the bright gleam of Aphrodite’s torches. . . .
The Net-Draggers, fragment, 275. Translation by Hugh Lloyd-Jones.
On the Theoi website, which is linked above, you can check Lloyd-Jones' translation note for more details, as the status of this play is really uncertain. I looked for a possible summary and found this one by Patrick O'Sullivan, in which he mentions the possibility of Silenos and the chorus acting as foster-parents for the baby Perseus and comments that apparently in academia this play is seen as having a more light-hearted mood (although Sullivan argues otherwise):
The story of Danae and her son Perseus on Seriphos, where they are initially rescued by Dictys only to be his molested by his brother Polydectes, appeared in Greek lyric, tragedy, and comedy. Aeschylus’ satyric handling of the story has been read as a light-hearted, romantic romp with Silenos and the chorus acting as benign foster-parents to the infant hero. But Aeschylus gives Silenos and the chorus of satyrs a more menacing identity than they generally had in other plays of this genre. Silenos can be seen as the comical counterpart of Polydectes, and appears to have the full support of his sons, something he clearly does not enjoy in other satyric dramas. The satyrs of the chorus stand in contrast to the often more sympathetic, if clownish, creatures they can be elsewhere. Diktyoulkoi contains elements typical of satyr drama, but in paradoxical ways not without moments of pathos.
Aeschylus Dictyulci: A Typically Atypical Satyr Play?, by Patrick O’Sullivan, pg 1.
MEDUSA
Family
According to Hesiod, the goddess Ceto and the ancient sea god Phorcys had three gorgon daughters named Sthenno, Euryale, and Medusa. Of the sisters, only Medusa was mortal.
And again, Ceto bare to Phorcys [...] the Gorgons who dwell beyond glorious Ocean in the frontier land towards Night where are the clear-voiced Hesperides, Sthenno, and Euryale, and Medusa who suffered a woeful fate: she was mortal, but the two were undying and grew not old. [...]
Theogony. Translation by H.G. Evelyn-White.
Medusa's genealogy as the daughter of Ceto and Phorcys is followed by most surviving sources, although Hyginus gives an apparently different mother named Gorgon.
From Phorcus and Ceto: Phorcides Pemphredo, Enyo and Persis (for this last others say Dino). From Gorgon and Ceto, Sthenno, Euryale, Medusa. [...]
Fabulae, 9. Translation by Mary Grant.
Besides the Gorgons, Medusa had other possible siblings:
According to Hesiod in Theogony, Echidna, the monstrous wife of the monstrous Thyphon, was also the daughter of Ceto and Phorcys. Pseudo-Apollodorus (Library, 2.1.2) and Pausanias (Description of Greece, 8.18.2), however, offer different genealogies. I was left with the impression that in the case of Echidna, her children are better documented than her parents. Of Medusa's sisters, Echidna is the least commonly considered a sister. He also says that Ladon, the dragon/serpent responsible for guarding the apples of the nymphs daughters of Atlas Hesperides, is their son although other sources indicate other parents.
Although many today remember the myth in which Scylla was a nymph who was transformed into a monster by the sorceress Circe (Fabulae, 199) or by the Nereid Amphitrite (Ad Lycophronem, 46), both motivated by jealousy of Glaucus/Poseidon's interest in Scylla, the older versions simply have Scylla being born a monster. Homer says that Scylla is the daughter of Krataiis, who may be identified with Ceto, and doesn’t mention any transformation. In fact, Circe says that "She is the mother of Skylla and bore this mischief for mortals", which honestly seems to imply that she was born a monster (The Odyssey, XII.125. Lattimore translation). In Book 4 of Argonautica, Apollonius Rhodius says that Scylla is the daughter of Krataiis — here explicitly identified with Hecate — and Phorcys and there is no mention of her being transformed. A fragment of Acusilaus also says that Scylla is the daughter of Hecate (fragment 27). In another version given by Hyginus, Scylla is the daughter of Echidna and Thypon, both monsters with several monstrous children (Fabulae, 151). Some scholias give other relationships for Scylla, such as Lamia as her mother — a sea monster, which strongly implies that Scylla was born a monster —, Triton or Poseidon as her fathers. Pseudo-Apollodorus claims that Scylla's mother is Krataiis, who is perhaps identified with Crete, known for giving birth to monsters, with Teneis or Phorcus/Phorcys (Library, E.7.20). Overall, the most commonly attributed father of Scylla is Phorcys, who with the exception of the nymph Thoosa only has grotesque or ugly creatures attributed as children. Even considering Poseidon as her father doesn’t negate the possibility of her being born a monster, since from his relationship with the nymph Thossa the cyclops Polyphemos was born, and at the same time makes Amphitrate's version of being jealous of her less possible — not that gods were not incestuous, but in most cases sons and daughters were avoided. The most common mother is Krataiis, who maybe can be either Ceto or Hecate depending on the version. If it’s Ceto, well, she’s also known for giving birth to monsters. In Hyginus' transformation version, the name Krateiis/Crataeis is given to a male being and not a female one as is usual, this being a river god who is the father of Scylla. Scylla's particularly monstrous genealogy coupled with the evident absence of mention of transformation in older sources and the fact that such mention only occurs in later sources ��� Hyginus is from the Roman period, Tzetzes is Byzantine — give me the impression that Scylla, similar to Medusa, in earlier sources was born a monster and later received a tradition in which she was transformed into one. In any case, she was usually at least Medusa's half-sister on her father's side. In any case, choose the version you prefer.
According to Homer in The Odyssey, the nymph Thoosa was the daughter of Phorcys. The mother wasn’t mentioned, but this makes her at least Medusa's half-sister. She’s also the only one never to have been considered monstrous or grotesque, although she did give birth to one: the cyclops Polyphemus, son of the god Poseidon.
Finally, the sisters most associated with the Gorgons: the Graiai/Graeae, also called Phorcides/Phorkydes. They were often daughters of Phorcys (as the name "Phorcides" itself indicates) and, in the sources where their mother was mentioned, the mother was Ceto. They were usually old women who shared one tooth and one eye between the three. Hesiod in the Theogony, however, speaks of only two rather than three. Aeschylus describes them as resembling swans, although it’s uncertain whether this is literal or just figurative (Prometheus Bound). Hesiod describes them in a way that suggests a beautiful appearance and some visual representations depict them as young women, but they were more commonly blind, toothless old women. They also have a role in the myth of Perseus. Their names also seem to indicate this, as the collective name Graiai seems to relate to old age while the proper names usually given to the sisters probably denote frightening characteristics.
Medusa was generally depicted as having a monstrous appearance, including in the earliest source of her, the Theogony from Archaic Greece. However, there is evidence that in Classical Greece there was a version of the myth in which Medusa didn’t have a hideous appearance. Pindar, for example, describes her as “beautiful Medusa” in Diane Arnson Svarlien’s translation, and I've seen a translation in which it was "fair-cheeked Medusa" and this description also denotes feminine beauty (Pythian Ode, 12.1). Furthermore, some visual representations from Ancient Greece show a woman who isn’t a grotesque monster (examples: 1, 2, 3, 4. There is also a ceramic one in The State Hermitage Museum, St. Petersburg, although it’s unfortunately rare to find on sites like Theoi and Wikimedia Commons). In terms of written source, Pindar is believed to be from 518 BC-438 BC and the probably oldest visual representation — it’s number 1 of those I linked — is attributed to Polygnotus, who must have been a painter from the mid-5th century BC. Therefore, contrary to popular belief, Medusa as a non-hideous woman is NOT an invention of Ovid, much less a Roman invention. It’s a Greek invention, documented from the classical period!
Reason for the mission
According to Pseudo-Apollodorus, Dictys' brother was Polydectes, king of Seriphus. He was interested in Danae, but couldn't do anything with her because Perseus, now grown up, wouldn't allow it. Irritated, Polydectes wanted to get rid of Perseus. To this end, he called Perseus and other men to a meeting and said that he wanted to collect contributions for a wedding gift for Hippodamia, daughter of Oenomaus (in case you're wondering...yeah, that's Hippodamia who married Pelops, ancestor of the Atreides). Polydectes demanded that Perseus bring the head of the Gorgon, thus wishing that he would die in the task.
Polydectes, brother of Dictys, was then king of Seriphus and fell in love with Danae, but could not get access to her, because Perseus was grown to man's estate. So he called together his friends, including Perseus, under the pretext of collecting contributions towards a wedding gift for Hippodamia, daughter of Oenomaus. Now Perseus having declared that he would not stick even at the Gorgon's head, Polydectes required the others to furnish horses, and not getting horses from Perseus ordered him to bring the Gorgon's head. [...]
Library, 2.4.2. Translation by J.G. Frazer.
Tzetzes simply gives the same version as Pseudo-Apollodorus. He emphasizes Polydectes' motivation in forcing himself on Danae and not wanting Perseus’ interference.
Polydectes forced himself on Danae, but unable to have her because of Perseus, who was now approaching manhood, he pretended that he needed a dowry for his marriage to Hippodameia, the daughter of Oenomaus, and asked each of his friends for something different. He sent Perseus to behead the Gorgon Medusa and bring her head back to him as a gift for Hippodameia. He did this hoping that Perseus would be killed by the Gorgons, so that he could have Danae without any trouble.
Ad Lycophronem, 838.
Alternative myth
It’s a continuation of the version in which Polydectes is married to Danae. Acrisius goes to Seriphus because he is aware that Perseus is there, but Polydectes doesn’t allow Acrisius to kill Perseus. A storm traps Acrisius in Seriphus, and while he is there Polydectes dies. Funeral games are held in Polydectes' honor, and Perseus accidentally kills Acrisius, fulfilling the prophecy. There is no mention of Perseus going on a mission..
[...] When Acrisius discovered they were staying at Polydectes' court, he started out to get them, but at his arrival Polydectes interceded for them, and Perseus swore an oath to his grandfather that he would never kill him. When Acrisius was detained there by a storm, Polydectes died, and at his funeral games the wind blew a discus from Perseus' hand at Acrisius' head which killed him. Thus what he did not do of his own will was accomplished by the gods. When Polydectes was buried, Perseus set out for Argos and took possession of his grandfather's kingdom.
Fabulae, 63. Translation by Mary Grant.
In an alternative version given by Pseudo-Apollodorus, Medusa was killed by Perseus for the sake of Athena, who had been offended by Medusa's presumption in thinking she equaled her in beauty. The way Pseudo-Apollodorus wrote it made me think it was a different version of Polydectes as the motivator of the mission.
[2.4.4] [...] But it is alleged by some that Medusa was beheaded for Athena's sake; and they say that the Gorgon was fain to match herself with the goddess even in beauty.
Library, 2.4.4. Translation by J.G. Frazer.
Ioannis Tzetzes also commented on the version in which Athena was offended by Medusa comparing herself to her in beauty.
[...] But this is nonsense; Polydectes was three generations before Hippodameia. The truth is more mythical, but I have spoken more allegorically at the beginning (17 6). Perseus knew that Polydectes was forcing himself on Danae. Medusa, a woman from Pisidia, rivaled Athena in beauty, so Athena sent Perseus against her, showing him a painting of the Gorgon around the city of Samos, called Deicterion, from the fact that these things were shown to him.[...]
Ad Lycophronem, 838.
Mission
Graiai, Nymphs and Hyperboreans
Aeschylus wrote a play called The Daughters of Phorcys/The Phorcides which told of Perseus's interaction with the Graiai. The play is lost, but has been mentioned by other authors. Hyginus, for example, says that Aeschylus wrote of the Graiai as the guardians of the gorgons.
[...] But as Aeschylus, the writer of tragedies, says in his Phorcides, the Graeae were guardians of the Gorgons. [...]
Astronomica, 2.12.2. Translation by Mary Grant.
A short fragment was preserved because of Athenaeus of Naucratis, who said that Aeschylus in The Phorcides wrote Perseus entering the cave of the gorgons like a wild boar.
And Aeschylus, in his Phorcides, comparing Perseus to a wild boar, says— He rush'd into the cave like a wild boar (ἀσχέδωρος ὥς).
The Deipnosophists, 9.65. Translation by Henry G. Bohn.
In Lycophron's Alexandra, there is what appears to be a reference to Perseus stealing the Graiai in order to get help in his quest to kill Medusa. They, in this context, are called guides, so it seems that Lycophron also considered the Graiai to be indicating the way. There are three of them here, although their names aren’t given.
[...] he that stole the lamp of his three wandering guides.
Alexandra. Translation by A.W. Mair.
Tzetzes says that Perseus went to the Graiai, here named as two (Pephredo and Enyo), and stole their one eye and one tooth. He didn’t return the tooth and eye until he was told the way by the nymphs — these are the Hesperides —, and this the Graiai showed him. From the nymphs Perseus acquired the following equipment: winged sandals, a bag or box, the helmet of Hades, an adamant sickle from Hermes, and a mirror from Athena. After this he flew to where the Gorgons lived.
He first went to the Phorcides, Pephredo and Enyo, who were old from birth and sisters of the Gorgons, and took from them their one eye and one tooth, which they only had in turn, and did not give them back until they guided him to the nymphs. Taking the winged sandals of the nymphs, a bag or box, the helmet of Hades, an adamant sickle from Hermes, and a mirror from Athena, he flew to the Gorgons, who were by the Ocean around Tartessos, the city of Iberia.
Ad Lycophronem, 838.
Pausanias, while describing scenes depicted on a wall in a temple, tells of the nymphs giving the cap and winged sandals to Perseus, who was on his way to kill Medusa in Libya.
[3.17.3] [...] There are also represented nymphs bestowing upon Perseus, who is starting on his enterprise against Medusa in Libya, a cap and the shoes by which he was to be carried through the air. [...]
Description of Greece, 3.17.3. Translation by W.H.S. Jones.
Pseudo-Apollodorus says that Hermes and Athena guided Perseus to the Graiai, here named as three (Enyo, Pephredo, Dino). Knowing that the one eye and one tooth they shared were important to them, Perseus stole them both and stated that he would only return them if they told him the way to the nymphs, which they did. He then returned the eye and the tooth to them. From the nymphs, Perseus acquired winged sandals, the cap of Hades and a kibisis, which was a kind of wallet. From Hermes, he received an adamantine sickle. Once equipped, Perseus flew to where the Gorgons slept.
[2.4.2] [...] So under the guidance of Hermes and Athena he made his way to the daughters of Phorcus, to wit, Enyo, Pephredo, and Dino; for Phorcus had them by Ceto, and they were sisters of the Gorgons, and old women from their birth. The three had but one eye and one tooth, and these they passed to each other in turn. Perseus got possession of the eye and the tooth, and when they asked them back, he said he would give them up if they would show him the way to the nymphs. Now these nymphs had winged sandals and the kibisis, which they say was a wallet. [But Pindar and Hesiod in The Shield say of Perseus: -- “But all his back had on the head of a dread monster, <The Gorgon,> and round him ran the kibisis.” The kibisis is so called because dress and food are deposited in it.] They had also the cap <of Hades>. When the Phorcides had shown him the way, he gave them back the tooth and the eye, and coming to the nymphs got what he wanted. So he slung the wallet (kibisis) about him, fitted the sandals to his ankles, and put the cap on his head. Wearing it, he saw whom he pleased, but was not seen by others. And having received also from Hermes an adamantine sickle he flew to the ocean and caught the Gorgons asleep [...]
Library, 2.4.2. Translation by J.G. Frazer.
These nymphs were named as the Hesperides by Hesiod in the Theogony.
[...] the Gorgons who dwell beyond glorious Ocean in the frontier land towards Night where are the clear-voiced Hesperides [...]
Theogony. Translation by H.G. Evelyn-White.
Pindar says that Perseus, guided by Athena, visited the Hyperboreans and received hospitality from them. This was after getting Graiai's advice and getting the items from Hesperides.
Neither by ship nor on foot could you find the marvellous road to the meeting-place of the Hyperboreans — Once Perseus, the leader of his people, entered their homes and feasted among them, when he found them sacrificing glorious hecatombs of donkeys to the god. In the festivities of those people and in their praises Apollo rejoices most, and he laughs when he sees the erect arrogance of the beasts. The Muse is not absent from their customs; all around swirl the dances of girls, the lyre's loud chords and the cries of flutes. They wreathe their hair with golden laurel branches and revel joyfully. No sickness or ruinous old age is mixed into that sacred race; without toil or battles they live without fear of strict Nemesis. Breathing boldness of spirit once the son of Danae went to that gathering of blessed men, and Athena led him there. He killed the Gorgon, and came back bringing stony death to the islanders, the head that shimmered with hair made of serpents. To me nothing that the gods accomplish ever appears unbelievable, however miraculous. Hold the oar!
Pythian Ode 10. Translation by Diane Arnson Svarlien.
This myth has also been represented in visual art, for example: 1.
Death of Medusa
Pindar says that Athena was inspired by hearing the screams of the Gorgons when Perseus killed Medusa.
[...] Pallas Athena discovered when she wove into music the dire dirge of the reckless Gorgons which Perseus heard pouring in slow anguish from beneath the horrible snakey hair of the maidens, when he did away with the third sister [...] Yes, he brought darkness on the monstrous race of Phorcus [...] he stripped off the head of beautiful Medusa, Perseus, the son of Danae, who they say was conceived in a spontaneous shower of gold. But when the virgin goddess had released that beloved man from those labors, she created the many-voiced song of flutes so that she could imitate with musical instruments the shrill cry that reached her ears from the fast-moving jaws of Euryale. The goddess discovered it [...]
Pythian Ode 12. Translation by
In Euripides' play Electra, the Chorus at one point sings about Achilles. During this, they describe Achilles' equipment and talk about the myth of Perseus depicted on Achilles' shield, particularly focusing on the death of Medusa with the help of Hermes.
I heard, from someone who had arrived at the harbor of Nauplia from Ilium, that on the circle of your famous shield, O son of Thetis, were wrought these signs, a terror to the Phrygians: on the surrounding base of the shield's rim, Perseus the throat-cutter, over the sea with winged sandals, was holding the Gorgon's body, with Hermes, Zeus' messenger, the rustic son of Maia.
Electra. Translation by E. P. Coleridge.
In Lycophron's poem Alexandra, Cassandra mentions Perseus when she speaks of a man with the winged sandals of Hermes, which again indicates the god's assistance in the mission. In addition, Medusa is described as having been beheaded by Perseus, although here she’s called a "stony-eyed weasel". The first part is in relation to the power of petrification, the second in reference to the belief that weasels gave birth through their necks.
[...] the eagle son of the golden Sire – a male with winged sandals who destroyed his liver. By the harvester’s blade shall be slain the hateful whale dismembered: the harvester who delivered of her pains in birth of horse and man the stony-eyed weasel [...]
Alexandra. Translation by A.W. Mair.
Tzetzes describes the gorgons' monstrous appearance and also says that Perseus had to look into a reflection.
[...] They had dragon-like heads, large pig teeth, bronze hands, and wings with which they flew. So, flying to them and finding them asleep, he beheaded Medusa while looking in the mirror, not at her; for he would have turned to stone if he had seen her. Her sisters let out a great lament from their many snake-like heads, sending out a hissing sound, from which Athena, according to Pindar, found the so-called polycephalic law of the aulos (Pind. P XII 14. 34). Perseus then placed the head in the wallet and carried it on his back as he journeyed. [...]
Ad Lycophronem, 838.
According to Pseudo-Apollodorus, the reason Medusa was chosen was because she was the only mortal among the Gorgons. Having arrived where they lived, Perseus found them sleeping. However, even sleeping it was difficult to kill them because, as monsters, they weren’t weak. And because of the power of petrification, Athena guided Perseus to kill Medusa by looking at the reflection of the bronze shield, so he would be able to see her without being petrified.
[2.4.2] [...] And having received also from Hermes an adamantine sickle he flew to the ocean and caught the Gorgons asleep. They were Stheno, Euryale, and Medusa. Now Medusa alone was mortal; for that reason Perseus was sent to fetch her head. But the Gorgons had heads twined about with the scales of dragons, and great tusks like swine's, and brazen hands, and golden wings, by which they flew; and they turned to stone such as beheld them. So Perseus stood over them as they slept, and while Athena guided his hand and he looked with averted gaze on a brazen shield, in which he beheld the image of the Gorgon, he beheaded her. [...]
Library, 2.4.2. Translation by J.G. Frazer.
Again, a description on a piece of equipment. But it isn’t the shield of Heracles and it isn’t the shield of Achilles, but the quiver of Philoctetes.
[...] There Perseus slew Medusa gorgon-eyed by the stars' baths and utmost bounds of earth and fountains of deep-flowing Ocean, where Night in the far west meets the setting sun. [...]
Posthomerica, Book 10. Translation by A.S. Way.
This myth has also been represented in visual art, for example: 1, 2, 3, 4,
Alternative myth
Diodorus Siculus tells a rationalized version in which there was a people of warrior women called the Gorgons and led by Medusa. Attempts to defeat them were unsuccessful until Perseus subdued them.
Now there have been in Libya a number of races of women who were warlike and greatly admired for their manly vigour; for instance, tradition tells us of the race of the Gorgons, against whom, as the account is given, Perseus made war, a race distinguished for its valour; for the fact that it was the son of Zeus, the mightiest Greek of his day, who accomplished the campaign against these women, and that this was his greatest Labour may be taken by any man as proof of both the pre-eminence and the power of the women we have mentioned. Furthermore, the manly prowess of those of whom we are now about to write presupposes an amazing pre-eminence when compared with the nature of the women of our day. [...] And since the natives were often being warred upon by the Gorgons, as they were named, a folk which resided upon their borders, and in general had that people lying in wait to injure them, Myrina, they say, was asked by the Atlantians to invade the land of the afore-mentioned Gorgons. But when the Gorgons drew up their forces to resist them a mighty battle took place in which the Amazons, gaining the upper hand, slew great numbers of their opponents and took no fewer than three thousand prisoners; and since the rest had fled for refuge into a certain wooded region, Myrina undertook to set fire to the timber, being eager to destroy the race utterly, but when she found that she was unable to succeed in her attempt she retired to the borders of her country. Now as the Amazons, they go on to say, relaxed their watch during the night because of their success, the captive women, falling upon them and drawing the swords of those who thought they were conquerors, slew many of them; in the end, however, the multitude poured in about them from every side and the prisoners fighting bravely were butchered one and all. Myrina accorded a funeral to her fallen comrades on three pyres and raised up three great heaps of earth as tombs, which are called to this day "Amazon Mounds." But the Gorgons, grown strong again in later days, were subdued a second time by Perseus, the son of Zeus, when Medusa was queen over them; and in the end both they and the race of the Amazons were entirely destroyed by Heracles, when he visited the regions to the west and set up his pillars in Libya, since he felt that it would ill accord with his resolve to be the benefactor of the whole race of mankind if he should suffer any nations to be under the rule of women. The story is also told that the marsh disappeared from sight in the course of an earthquake, when those parts of it which lay towards the ocean were torn asunder.
Library of History, 3.52 and 54.2-55.1. Translation by C.H. Oldfather.
Pausanias tells a rationalized version of the myth in which the beautiful Medusa reigned over the people living around Lake Tritonis and led the Libyans into battle. Perseus' army was an enemy of hers, and one night while she was encamped, Perseus murdered her while she slept and showed her head to the Greeks.
[2.21.5] Not far from the building in the market-place of Argos is a mound of earth, in which they say lies the head of the Gorgon Medusa. I omit the miraculous, but give the rational parts of the story about her. After the death of her father, Phorcus, she reigned over those living around Lake Tritonis, going out hunting and leading the Libyans to battle. On one such occasion, when she was encamped with an army over against the forces of Perseus, who was followed by picked troops from the Peloponnesus, she was assassinated by night. Perseus, admiring her beauty even in death, cut off her head and carried it to show the Greeks.
Description of Greece, 2.21.5. Translation by W.H.S Jones.
In a relatively different version of this alternative myth, which Pausanias credits to Procles, in Lybia there were wild men and women. One of these women, apparently Medusa, came to Lake Tritonis and harried the neighbours until, with the help of Athena, Perseus killed her.
[2.21.6] But Procles, the son of Eucrates, a Carthaginian, thought a different account more plausible than the preceding. It is as follows. Among the incredible monsters to be found in the Libyan desert are wild men and wild women. Procles affirmed that he had seen a man from them who had been brought to Rome. So he guessed that a woman wandered from them, reached Lake Tritonis, and harried the neighbours until Perseus killed her; Athena was supposed to have helped him in this exploit, because the people who live around Lake Tritonis are sacred to her.
Description of Greece, 2.21.6. Translation by W.H.S Jones.
In the Suda, a Byzantine encyclopedia, Perseus wanted to dominate the Medes and had mystical knowledge. Following what he learned, he once encountered a hideous and ugly woman named Medusa, whom he decapitated and used her head as a kind of protective amulet. The name Gorgon was given by Perseus himself in this version. Furthermore, this Pekos is another name for Zeus; Perseus's paternity hasn’t changed.
She [who was] also called Gorgon. Perseus, the son of Danae and Pekos, having learned all the mystic apparitions and wanting to establish for himself his own kingdom, despised that of the Medes. And going through a great expanse of land he saw a virgin maiden, hideous and ugly, and turning aside [to speak] to her, he asked "what is your name?" And she said, "Medusa." And cutting off her head he despatched her as he had been taught, and he hung it up, amazing and destroying all who saw it. The head he called Gorgon, because of its sheer force. [...]
Suda, mu,406. Translation by Jennifer Benedict.
Post-Medusa’s death
In the Theogony, Hesiod said that Medusa was pregnant by Poseidon, with whom she had sex in a flower field. When Perseus cut off her head, her sons Chrysaor and the famous Pegasus came out.
[...] With her lay the Dark-haired One in a soft meadow amid spring flowers. And when Perseus cut off her head, there sprang forth great Chrysaor and the horse Pegasus who is so called because he was born near the springs (pegae) of Ocean; and that other, because he held a golden blade (aor) in his hands.
Theogony. Translation by H.G. Evelyn-White.
In the Shield of Heracles, there is a moment where Hesiod talks about the myth of Perseus. Perseus is said to have been wearing the following accoutrements: a shield forged by Hephaestus, the winged sandals of Hermes, and the cap of Hades. The scene described depicted Perseus, now with the head of Medusa, fleeing from the Gorgon's angry sisters.
There, too, was the son of rich-haired Danae, the horseman Perseus: his feet did not touch the shield and yet were not far from it — very marvellous to remark, since he was not supported anywhere; for so did the famous Lame One fashion him of gold with his hands. On his feet he had winged sandals, and his black-sheathed sword was slung across his shoulders by a cross-belt of bronze. He was flying swift as thought. The head of a dreadful monster, the Gorgon, covered the broad of his back, and a bag of silver — a marvel to see— contained it: and from the bag bright tassels of gold hung down. Upon the head of the hero lay the dread cap of Hades which had the awful gloom of night. Perseus himself, the son of Danae, was at full stretch, like one who hurries and shudders with horror. And after him rushed the Gorgons, unapproachable and unspeakable, longing to seize him: as they trod upon the pale adamant, the shield rang sharp and clear with a loud clanging. Two serpents hung down at their girdles with heads curved forward: their tongues were flickering, and their teeth gnashing with fury, and their eyes glaring fiercely. And upon the awful heads of the Gorgons great Fear was quaking.
Shield of Heracles, 216-316. Translation by H.G. Evelyn-White.
Lycophron in Alexandra describes the birth of Chyrsaor and Pegasus after Perseus beheads Medusa.
[...] who delivered of her pains in birth of horse and man the stony-eyed weasel whose children sprang from her neck. [...]
Alexandra. Translation by A.W. Mair.
Hyginus says that with Poseidon Medusa had Chrysaor and Pegasus, although he doesn’t say how they were born. I imagine it’s presumably the same way as in the other sources, that is, after Perseus beheaded Medusa.
CHILDREN OF TYPHON AND ECHIDNA: [...] From Medusa, daughter of Gorgon, and Neptune, were born Chrysaor and horse Pegasus [...]
Fabulae, 151. Translation by Mary Grant.
Pausanias, who was describing an art, also mentions that Perseus was pursued by Medusa's sisters after killing her, and he emphasizes that the gorgons had wings.
[5.18.5] [...] The sisters of Medusa, with wings, are chasing Perseus, who is flying. Only Perseus has his name inscribed on him.
Description of Greece, 5.18.5. Translation by W.H.S. Jones.
Pseudo-Apollodorus says that as soon as Medusa was beheaded, Chrysaor and Pegasus, Medusa's sons with the god Poseidon, emerged from her neck. Perseus put the head in a bag and prepared to leave, but the immortal gorgon sisters awoke in a rage and chased him. However, Perseus managed to escape because he wore the cap of Hades, which allowed the wearer to become invisible.
[2.4.2] [...] When her head was cut off, there sprang from the Gorgon the winged horse Pegasus and Chrysaor, the father of Geryon; these she had by Poseidon. [2.4.3] So Perseus put the head of Medusa in the wallet (kibisis) and went back again; but the Gorgons started up from their slumber and pursued Perseus: but they could not see him on account of the cap, for he was hidden by it. [...]
Library, 2.4.2-3. Translation by J.G. Frazer.
Apollonius says that, while Perseus flew over Libya with the head of Medusa, the blood of the Gorgon gave rise to poisonous serpents.
[...] But into whatever of all living beings that life-giving earth sustains that serpent once injects his black venom, his path to Hades becomes not so much as a cubit's length, not even if Paeeon, if it is right for me to say this openly, should tend him, when its teeth have only grazed the skin. For when over Libya flew godlike Perseus Eurymedon for by that name his mother called him -- bearing to the king the Gorgon's head newly severed, all the drops of dark blood that fell to the earth, produced a brood of those serpents. [...]
Argonautica, Book 4. Translation by R.C. Seaton.
Tzetzes mentions that a poet named Polyidos wrote that there was a Lybian shepherd named Atlas who, rather than allowing Perseus to pass, asked him who he was. This caused Perseus to petrify him, upset at not being immediately granted passage. This poet Polyidos is believed to be possibly from 398 BC.
Polyidos, the dithyrambic poet, says that this Atlas was a Libyan shepherd, not a mathematician, and was turned to stone by Perseus showing him the Gorgon because he would not let him pass, but asked him who he was. This Atlas was also the father of Hesperus according to the rest (Diod. l.l., EM 348 7), not according to Polyidos.
Ad Lycophronem, 879.
This myth has also been represented in visual art, for example: 1, 2, 3, 4.
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Perseus looking almost completely like his mother.
Perseus' colouring being actually not very much like either Zeus or Danae, because the gold rain affected his complexion/colouring. (Though, if you imagine Zeus as blond, he'd share that with his father.) But it's undeniable that he is Danae's son.
(And Zeus', for those who know how to look, but that's not the point.)
Because, you see, Akrisios is supposed to be killed by his grandson. His daughter's son.
And maybe it's merely chance, natural providence, or maybe it's Fate having a laugh, for how hard and cruelly he tried to avoid it, but Perseus looks so very much like his mother. Akrisios will know his death is coming for him when he sees the boy.
(And despite that Perseus surely has some cause to take witting revenge for his mother's treatment, Akrisios dies by accident at his grandson's hand. Makes you wonder how things might have gone if he hadn't locked his daughter up in an isolated prison with only one other person for company.)
#greek mythology#perseus#acrisius#you know this is another reason#why I just CANNOT fucking fathom#people making Perseus out to be a villain#yeah Oidipous kills his father unwittingly too#but with intent!#Perseus doesn't even do that!
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Abas
The son of Hypermnestra and Lynceus was King Abas of Argos. His two sons, Acrisius and Proetus, followed him as king after his father's death. Following their father's death, his children ruled in turns until Acrisius banished his brother. They had battled while still in their mother's womb. Acrisius was forced to give Proetus half of the kingdom when he returned with an army, dividing the Argolid in two.
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Danae Watching the Building of the Brazen Tower
Artist: Edward Burne-Jones (British, 1833–1898)
Date: 1872
Medium: Oil on Panel
Collection: Harvard Art Museum
Description
In the 1870s Burne-Jones and his friend the designer, poet, and socialist William Morris collaborated on illustrations for Morris’s The Earthly Paradise (1868–70). The epic poem, composed of mythological tales from ancient and Nordic sources, served as an inspiration for Burne-Jones throughout his life. The story of Danaë is taken from the chapter “The Doom of King Acrisius.” Fearful of an oracle’s warning that he would die by the hand of his grandson, as yet unborn, the king built a tower “wrought of brass most cunningly” in which to imprison his daughter, Danaë. The god Zeus breached her “living tomb” and impregnated Danaë in a shower of gold; later her son, Perseus, unwittingly slew his grandfather. Here Danaë, already seemingly incarcerated in the narrow courtyard, watches the construction of her prison, her future foreshadowed by the rosebush whose blooms are confined in a cage.
#denae#mythological tale#building#fountain#british culture#edward burne jones#19th century painting#oil on panel#british painter#the doom of king acrisius#european
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Ok I’ve talked before about Dionysus and Perseus’s parallels now I wanna talk about Ariadne and Andromeda’s parallels:
- Both where abandoned by the first men they were to marry, abandoned at their lowest no less, Ariadne left her home and family to be with Theseus only to be abandoned on the island of Naxos. Andromeda was abandoned by Phineus, when she was to be sacrificed to Cetus and he didn’t even try to rescue her, then he had the audacity to demand her back.
- Both were rescued by their future husbands when they were at their lowest.
-While there is very little about their lives after the marriage, we know that they remained by their husbands sides, When Perseus went to Argos to confront Acrisius, Andromeda was by his side. When Dionysus was spreading his cult all over Greece, Ariadne fought alongside him.
- Both had lots of sons lol
#Ariadne didn’t get to be a girl mom tho 😔#greek mythology#ancient greek mythology#greek pantheon#greek goddess#ariadne#andromeda#Theseus#Phineus#Perseus#Dionysos#Dionysus#perseus and andromeda#dionysus x ariadne#Acrisius#maneads#manead
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Acrisius turning to Danaë: see? This is a daughter who is loyal to her father, you should learn from her!
"Sisyphus and Salmoneus, sons of Aeolus, hated each other. Sisyphus asked Apollo how he might kill his enemy, meaning his brother, and the answer was given that if he had children from the embrace of Tyro, daughter of his brother Salmoneus, they would avenge him. When Sisyphus followed his advice two sons were born, but their mother slew them when she learned the prophecy." - Pseudo-Hyginus, Fabulae 60
Now that's an effective way of averting prophecy! Why bother with exposing the prophesied child(ren), which is something that always comes back to bite you in the ass, when you can simply do this instead?
#tyro#salmoneus#sisyphos#sisyphus#greek mythology#ancient greek mythology#greek pantheon#Acrisius#Danae#danaë#Perseus#Zeus
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PERSEUS & CIA (PART 3)
Part 1 here! Part 2 here!
LIFE OF PERSEUS AFTER THE MISSION
In Iphigenia at Aulis, Perseus is remembered as the founder of Mycenae, which was built with the help of the Cyclopes.
Iphigenia [....] O Pelasgia, land of my birth, and Mycenae, my home! Chorus [1500] Is it on Perseus' citadel you call, that town Cyclopean workmen built?
Iphigenia at Aulis. Translation by E. P. Coleridge.
According to Hyginus, Perseus founded Perseis and Mycenae. Jove = Zeus.
TOWN AND THEIR FOUNDERS: [...] Perseus, son of Jove, founded Perseis. [...] Perseus, son of Jove, founded Mycenae. [...]
Fabulae, 275. Translation by Mary Grant.
Pausanias also mentions Perseus as the founder of Mycenae. The reason given is: after accidentally killing his grandfather Acrisius as the prophecy said, Perseus wanted to exchange the kingdom of Argos — which was Acrisius's, but became Perseus's because 1) he fled 2) he died — with Megaphentes, his cousin. The exchange was made, Megaphentes became king of Argos and Perseus founded Mycenae. Pausanias gives two possible stories for the name of the city: either Perseus's cap (myces) fell off and he considered it a sign or he was thirsty and used a mushroom (myces) to quench his thirst.
[2.15.4] Ascending to Tretus, and again going along the road to Argos, you see on the left the ruins of Mycenae. The Greeks are aware that the founder of Mycenae was Perseus, so I will narrate the cause of its foundation and the reason why the Argives afterwards laid Mycenae waste. [...] [2.16.2] [...] Afterwards Acrisius, learning that Perseus himself was not only alive but accomplishing great achievements, retired to Larisa on the Peneus. And Perseus, wishing at all costs to see the father of his mother and to greet him with fair words and deeds, visited him at Larisa. Being in the prime of life and proud of his inventing the quoit, he gave displays before all, and Acrisius, as luck would have it, stepped unnoticed into the path of the quoit. [2.16.3] So the prediction of the god to Acrisius found its fulfillment, nor was his fate prevented by his precautions against his daughter and grandson. Perseus, ashamed because of the gossip about the homicide, on his return to Argos induced Megapenthes, the son of Proetus, to make an exchange of kingdoms; taking over himself that of Megapenthes, he founded Mycenae. For on its site the cap (myces) fell from his scabbard, and he regarded this as a sign to found a city. I have also heard the following account. He was thirsty, and the thought occurred to him to pick up a mushroom (myces) from the ground. Drinking with joy water that flowed from it, he gave to the place the name of Mycenae.
Description of Greece, 2.15.4 and 2.16.2-3. Translation by W.H.S. Jones.
According to Pseudo-Apollodorus, Perseus, along with Danae and Andromeda, went to Argos to find Acrisius. But Acrisius discovered that his grandson was alive and fled. When the king of Larissa, Teutamides, held athletic games in honor of his deceased father and Perseus came to compete, Perseus accidentally killed Acrisius with a quoit and the prophecy was fulfilled. Perseus then buried Acrisius and, ashamed of claiming possession of Argos after having killed the king of Argos, asked Megaphentes to give him Tiryns in exchange for Megaphentes keeping Argos. Megaphentes accepted, and Perseus reigned over Tiryns, and later Midea and Mycenae.
Perseus hastened with Danae and Andromeda to Argos in order that he might behold Acrisius. But he, learning of this and dreading the oracle, forsook Argos and departed to the Pelasgian land. Now Teutamides, king of Larissa, was holding athletic games in honor of his dead father, and Perseus came to compete. He engaged in the pentathlum, but in throwing the quoit he struck Acrisius on the foot and killed him instantly. Perceiving that the oracle was fulfilled, he buried Acrisius outside the city, and being ashamed to return to Argos to claim the inheritance of him who had died by his hand, he went to Megapenthes, son of Proetus, at Tiryns and effected an exchange with him, surrendering Argos into his hands. So Megapenthes reigned over the Argives, and Perseus reigned over Tiryns, after fortifying also Midea and Mycenae.
Library, 2.4.5. Translation by J.G. Frazer.
Clement of Alexandria said: “In the temple of Athena in the Acropolis at Larissa there is the tomb of Acrisius” (Exhortation to the Greeks, book 3). That is, again the place of Acrisius' death is Larissa. Clement, however, doesn't say how he died, but I imagine it to be the same way.
Tzetzes says that Perseus went with Andromeda and Danae to Argos to see Acrisius, but Acrisius feared the prophecy and fled. At Larissa, King Teutamides held games in honor of his deceased father, and Perseus, while competing, accidentally killed Acrisius with a quoit. This caused Perseus to mourn his death, bury him outside the city, and refuse to inherit Argos. He asked for Tiryns in exchange for Argos, and Megaphentes accepted. He later founded Mycenae and Midea.
[...] Perseus, with Andromeda and his mother Danae, hurried to go to Argos to see Acrisius. Acrisius, fearing the oracle, retreated to Pelasgus. When Teutamides, the king of the Larissans, held a pentathlon at his father's funeral, Perseus, competing, accidentally killed Acrisius with a discus throw and, mourning, buried him outside the city. He went to Megapenthes, the son of Proetus, and gave him his own kingdom, the rule of Argos, while Perseus himself held Tiryns, his kingdom. He founded Mycenae and Midea [...]
Ad Lycophronem, 838.
The theme of Acrisius's accidental death seems to have been a central plot point in Sophocles's lost play Larissaei/The Men of Larissa. Remember what I said about the play Acrisius sometimes being identified with the play Danae? Acrisius is also sometimes identified with Larissaei. Anyway, what we know about this play is that it’s about the accidental death of Acrisius by his grandson Perseus in Larissa. You can read more about this in volume I of The Fragments of Sophocles, ed. A. C. Pearson.
Alternative myth
In a late version of the myth, Perseus fought Dionysus to defend Argos encouraged by Hera. I am considering this an alternative myth not only because it is clearly a very late addition but also because it seems quite confusing in terms of the chronology of the usual Perseus myth.
Pausanias says that Dionysus led an army of Maenads to Argos, but Perseus defeated them.
[2.20.4] The tomb near this they call that of the maenad Chorea, saying that she was one of the women who joined Dionysus in his expedition against Argos, and that Perseus, being victorious in the battle, put most of the women to the sword. To the rest they gave a common grave, but to Chorea they gave burial apart because of her high rank. [...] [2.22.1] XXII. The temple of Hera Anthea (Flowery) is on the right of the sanctuary of Leto, and before it is a grave of women. They were killed in a battle against the Argives under Perseus, having come from the Aegean Islands to help Dionysus in war; for which reason they are surnamed Haliae (Women of the Sea). Facing the tomb of the women is a sanctuary of Demeter, surnamed Pelasgian from Pelasgus, son of Triopas, its founder, and not far from the sanctuary is the grave of Pelasgus. [...] [2.23.7] for instance, an underground building over which was the bronze chamber which Acrisius once made to guard his daughter. Perilaus, however, when he became tyrant, pulled it down. Besides this building there is the tomb of Crotopus and a temple of Cretan Dionysus. For they say that the god, having made war on Perseus, afterwards laid aside his enmity, and received great honors at the hands of the Argives, including this precinct set specially apart for himself.
Description of Greece, 2.20.4 and 22-1 and 23-7. Translation by W.H.S. Jones.
In the Dionysiaca, Nonnus tells this version of the myth in more detail in Book 47. But it’s very long, so I’ll summarize just some relevant things:
As is typical of Dionysus, he became irritated at not receiving attention. This time, the target of his anger was the Arguments, and he tried to dominate Argos. Argos is dear to Hera, so she obviously doesn't allow Dionysus to conquer Argos. Furthermore, it doesn't help that Hera and Dionysus' relationship was, to say the least, not very good. In retaliation, Hera rallies the Argives led by Perseus to face Dionysus and the Maenads.
Encouraged by Hera to fight, Perseus goes to battle and exchanges intimidating speeches with Dionysus. After this, Hera has Perseus use Medusa on the Maenads and sends a flaming spear at Dionysus, who only scoffs at this, claiming that not even Zeus's lightning bolt killed him. More intimidating speeches, this time recalling what happened to Pentheus in Thebes. Conversation over, they fight again, more Maenads fall and the Satyrs join the battle. Perseus, however, feels intimidated by Dionysus and so decides not to fight him directly and instead fights the maddened Maenads. Perseus then uses Medusa's head to petrify Ariadne, who had accompanied Dionysus to Argos. And yeah, that last part seems like a weird summary, but it's actually like this in the poem: “When he had ended, he went on fighting: the Bacchants fell to, the Satyrs joined the battle. Over the head of Bromios Perseus flew in the air, flapping his light wings; but Iobacchos lifted his body and rose wingless on high near to the heavens with larger libs over flying Perseus, and brought his hand near the sevenring sky, and touched Olympos, and crushed the clouds: Perseus quivered with fear as he saw the right hand of Dionysos out of reach and touching the sun, catching hold of the moon. So he left Dionysos and fought with the mad Bacchants. He shook in his hand the deadly face of Medusa, and turned armed Ariadne into stone.”
Ariadne therefore dies. This enrages Dionysus to the point where Nonnus says that he would have destroyed Argos and Mycenae, killed the host of the Danaans and Perseus, and wounded Hera if it weren’t for the intervention of Hermes. He pulls Dionysus' hair to prevent him from doing anything, and appeals to the fact that Hermes was the one who saved the baby Dionysus as a way to persuade Dionysus to listen to him. Basically, the argument is that the war is due to Hera's machinations and Perseus isn’t to blame. The cult of Dionysus is recognized, and Perseus is allowed to keep the kingdom in peace. Hermes also consoles Dionysus about Ariadne's death. And that's it.
Still following the Suda's version that Medusa is just an ugly woman, Perseus continued to make conquests until he tried to conquer the kingdom of Cepheus, where he had found Andromeda in a temple (I didn't see any mention of Andromeda being Cepheus' daughter here, by the way). However, Cepheus was very old and therefore blind, and the amulet that Perseus made with Medusa's head didn't work. Perseus was dissatisfied and tested the head on himself. This petrified him, which killed him. Later, his son Merros burned the head.
[...] and he founded a city into a village, called Amandra, and he set up a stone [depicting] the Gorgon hanging. This [city] changed it name to Ikonion[4] because it was a representation [a)peiko/nisma] of the Gorgon. He also made war on the Isaurians and the Cilicians and founded a city that he named Tarsus. Its previous name had been Andrasus; but told by an oracle to found a city to mark victories, in the place where after the victory he hurt the flat [tarso/s] of his foot in dismounting from his horse, he called it Tarsus. After conquering the Medes too, he changed the name of the country and called it Persia. He taught the terrible initiation connected with the Gorgon to some of the Persians, whom he called magi. At this time too a ball of fire was brought down out of heaven, and from this Perseus took fire and gave it to those of his tribe to guard and to revere, as something brought down out of heaven. He made war on Cepheus, but because he was old and could not see, the head did not work, and thinking it to be useless, Perseus turned it toward himself and beheld it and perished. Later his son Merros burned it.
Suda, mu,406. Translation by Jennifer Benedict.
PERSEUS AND ANDROMEDA’S CHILDREN
The first mention of a son of Perseus is in The Iliad, when the myth of the birth of Heracles and Eurystheus is described. At this point, we have Sthenelus, described as the son of Perseus and also the father of Eurystheus.
[...] Hera reached Achaean Argas in no time, where, she knew for a fact. the hardy wife of Sthenelus, Perseus' own son, was about to bear her child, but only seven months gone. So into the light Queen Hera brought the baby, two months shy, and the goddess stopped Alcmena's hour of birth, she held back the Lady of Labor's birthing pangs and rushed in person to give the word to Zeus: 140 'Zeus. Father, lord of the lightning bolt— here is a piece of news to warm your heart! Today an illustrious son is born to rule the Argives ... Eurystheus, son of Sthenelus, descended of Perseus— so he is born of your own stock and immortal blood and it's only right for him to rule the Argives!' [...]
The Iliad, 19.133-146. Translation by Robert Fagles.
Euripides more than once recalls in his plays that Heracles is a descendant of Perseus. For example, Admetus greets Heracles by calling him a descendant of Perseus in the play Alcestis. In Euripides' Heracles, Heracles' lineage is at one point explored, including mention of Alceus, Amphitryon's father, as a son of Perseus.
AMPHITRYON: What mortal hath not heard of him who shared a wife with Zeus, Amphitryon of Argos, whom on a day Alcaeus, son of Perseus begat, Amphitryon the father of Heracles? [...]
Heracles. Translation by Edward Philip Coleridge.
Herodotus says that one of the sons of Perseus and Andromeda, Perses, stayed with Cepheus because, as he had no sons, this boy would be the male descendant.
[...] These Persians were in old time called by the Greeks Cephenes, but by themselves and their neighbours Artaei. But when Perseus the son of Danaë and Zeus had come to Cepheus the son of Belus, and taken his daughter Andromeda to wife, a son was born to him whom he called Perses, and him he left there; for Cepheus had no male issue; it was from this Perses that the Persians took their name.
Histories, 7.61. Translation by Rawlinson.
And also gives the Argive version of the myth surrounding Perses:
Such is the Argives' account of this matter; but there is another story told in Hellas: That before Xerxes set forth on his march against Hellas, he sent a herald to Argos, who said on his coming (so the story goes), "Men of Argos, this is the message to you of king Xerxes. Perses our forefather had, as we believe, Perseus son of Danaë for his father, and Andromeda daughter of Cepheus for his mother; if that be so, then we are descended from your nation. Wherefore in all right and reason neither should we march against the land of our forefathers, nor should you become our enemies by aiding others, nor do aught but abide by yourselves in peace; for if all go as I desire, I will hold none in higher esteem than you." Hearing this, the Argives were thereby much moved; and though for the nonce they made no promise and demanded no share, yet when the Greeks strove to gain their aid, then, knowing that the Lacedaemonians would not grant it, they did demand a part of the command, that so they might have a pretext for abiding at peace.
Histories, 7.150. Translation by Rawlinson.
Tzetzes also says that Perses was the first son and was left with Cepheus.
[...] He also went to Ethiopia, where, as I said, he rescued Andromeda from the sea monster and took her as his wife. From her, he had a son, Perses, whom he left with Cepheus. [...]
Ad Lycophronem, 838.
Hyginus mentions Electryon as the son of Perseus.
MEN WHO KILLED THEIR RELATIVES: [...] Amphitryon killed Electryon, son of Perseus. [....]
Fabulae, 224. Translation by Mary Grant.
Diodorus Siculus says that Andromeda and Perseus had Electryon, who with Eurydice, daughter of Pelops, had Alcmene, who after being deceived by Zeus in the appearance of her husband had Heracles.
[...] Now Andromeda, the daughter of Cepheus, lay with him and bore Electryon, and then Eurydicê, the daughter of Pelops, married him and gave birth to Alcmenê, who in turn was wooed by Zeus, who deceived her, and bore Heracles.
Library of History, 4.9.1. Translation by C.H. Oldfather.
Pseudo-Apollodorus says that the children of Perseus and Andromeda are Perses (born before Perseus' return and raised by Cepheus, Andromeda's father), Alcaeus, Sthenelus, Heleus, Mestor, Electryon, and Gorgophone.
And he had sons by Andromeda: before he came to Greece he had Perses, whom he left behind with Cepheus (and from him it is said that the kings of Persia are descended); and in Mycenae he had Alcaeus and Sthenelus and Heleus and Mestor and Electryon, and a daughter Gorgophone, whom Perieres married.
Library, 2.4.5. Translation by J.G. Frazer.
In the part after this in the text, Pseudo-Apollodorus describes the descendants of Perseus and Andromeda. I'm not going to put it here because the focus is on children, but if you're interested, just let me know that from 2.4.5 onwards in the Library this is covered.
Pausanias speaks of Gorgophone (who had two husbands, Perieres and Oebalus), of Cynurus and mentions the Heracleides as descendants of Perseus.
[2.21.7] In Argos, by the side of this monument of the Gorgon, is the grave of Gorgophone (Gorgon-kilIer), the daughter of Perseus. As soon as you hear the name you can understand the reason why it was given her. On the death of her husband, Perieres, the son of Aeolus, whom she married when a virgin, she married Oebalus, being the first woman, they say, to marry a second time; for before this wives were wont, on the death of their husbands, to live as widows.
Description of Greece, 2.21.7. Translation by W.H.S. Jones.
[3.2.2] [...] The Cynurians are said to be Argives by descent, and tradition has it that their founder was Cynurus, son of Perseus.
Description of Greece, 3.2.2. Translation by W.H.S. Jones.
[2.18.7] [...] but the Heracleidae were descendants of Perseus [...]
Description of Greece, 2.18.7. Translation by W.H.S. Jones.
Tzetzes says that the sons of Perseus and Andromeda are: Alcaeus, Sthenelus, Heleus, Mestor, Electryon, Gorgophone and Perses, who was left with Cepheus.
He founded Mycenae and Midea, where he also had other sons from Andromeda: Alcaeus, Sthenelus, Heleus, Mestor, Electryon, and Gorgophone. His other son, Perses, was left in Ethiopia with his grandfather Cepheus, as we said.
Ad Lycophronem, 838.
Theocritus mentions Perseus in two poems related to the hero Heracles, but only to mention that Heracles is a descendant of Perseus. You can read it here.
Alternative myth
Remembering that in the Suda version of Medusa the ugly woman and Perseus who turned to stone, he has a son named Merros. Although this Perseus is different enough that it isn’t strange that he could have other lovers besides Andromeda, I imagine that the son is hers because she’s the only woman mentioned in the passage.
Ioannis Tzetzes, scholiast of the Lycophron’s Alexandra, mentions a daughter of Perseus named Autochthe who was married to Aegeus, king of Athens known to be the mortal father of the hero Theseus. However, I haven’t seen her mentioned by anyone other than Tzetzes. Therefore, she doesn’t seem to me to be commonly a daughter of Perseus. I’ll consider it alternative as I haven't seen it anywhere else.
Third is Aegeus, the son of Pandion or Scyrius according to some or according to Lycophron (1324) Phemius and adopted by Pandion, reigning in Athens, he first marries Meda, the daughter of Hoples, second Chalkiope, the daughter of Rhexenor. As I found elsewhere, he had one wife, Autochthe, the daughter of Perseus. But as he had no child, fearing Pallas, Nisos, and Lycus, his brothers, he goes to Pytho to consult the oracle about having a child, and this oracle was given to him: "the foot of the protruding wineskin, the best of peoples, do not untie, until you reach the height of Athens."
Ad Lycophronem, 494.
DEATH/POST-DEATH
In Aratus' Phaenomena, he mentions the constellations of Cepheus, Cassiopeia, Perseus, and Andromeda. He says that the Cepheus family was placed in the sky because of its association with Zeus.
[179] Nor all unnamed shall rest he hapless family of Iasid Cepheus. For their name, too has come unto heaven, for that they were near akin to Zeus. Cepheus himself is set behind the Bear Cynosura, like to one that stretches out both his hands. From her tail-tip to both his feet stretches a measure equal to that from foot to foot. But a little aside from his belt look to find the first coil of the mighty Dragon. [188] Eastward his hapless wife, Cassiepeia, gleaming when by night the moon is full, wheels with her scanty stars. For few and alternate stars adorn her, which expressly mark her form with lines of light. Like the key of a twofold door barred within, wherewith men striking shoot back the bolts, so singly set shine her stars. But from her shoulders so faint she stretches a fathom’s length. Thou would’st say she was sorrowing over her daughter. [197] For there, too, wheels that woeful form of Andromeda, enstarred beneath her mother. Thou hast not to wait for a night, I ween, whereon to see her more distinct! So bright is her head and so clearly marked are both the shoulders, the tips of her feet and all her belt. Yet even there she is racked, with arms stretched far apart, and even in Heaven bonds are her portion. Uplifted and outspread there for all time are those hands of hers. [...] [248] Her two feet will guide thee to her bridegroom, Perseus, over whose shoulder they are for ever carried. But he moves in the North a taller form than the others. His right hand is stretched toward the throne of the mother of his bride, and, as if pursuing that which lies before his feet, he greatly strides, dust-stained, in the heaven of Zeus.
Phaenomena, 179-204 and 248-252. Translation by G.R. Mair.
Pseudo-Eratostheni wrote a book with the same theme as Aratus. Unfortunately, I couldn't find it in an accessible English version, so no excerpts this time. Just as I did with the fragments of Euripides' Andromeda, I tried to use another language. Initially I tried a Brazilian translation, but unfortunately there was only a partial translation and it didn't cover what I wanted, so I tried Spanish and found it! According to Antonio Guzmán Guerra's translation:
Cepheus became a constellation by decision of Athena out of deference to Andromeda;
It isn’t said why Cassiopeia is a constellation, although here she is also seated;
Andromeda is a constellation by the will of Athena, who placed her there as a memory of Perseus' exploits;
Perseus is a constellation by the wish of Athena, who made him so because she wanted to reward him for killing Medusa.
According to Hyginus, Perseus was killed by Magaphentes, son of Proetus (Danae's uncle on her father's side) in retaliation for Proetus' death. He also says that Perseus was put among the stars.
MEN WHO KILLED THEIR RELATIVES: [...] Megapenthes, son of Proetus, killed Perseus, son of Jove and Danae on account of the death of his father. [...]
Fabulae, 244. Translation by Mary Grant.
MORTALS WHO WERE MADE IMMORTAL: [...] Perseus, son of Jove and Danae, put among the stars [...]
Fabulae, 224. Translation by Mary Grant.
SEA-MONSTER OR WHALE: Whale. With regard to the Sea-Monster, they say that it was sent by Neptune to kill Andromeda, about whom we have already spoken. But because it was killed by Perseus, on account of its huge size and his valour it was placed amongst the constellations.
Astronomica, 2.31.1. Translation by Mary Grant.
He also says that by the favor of Athena Andromeda was put among the constellations in honor of Perseus' bravery. Cassiopeia was also put among the constellations by the gods, but as punishment. Cepheus too, with the reason that it was so that the family would stay together.
CEPHEUS: Euripides and the rest have shown that he was the son of Phoenix, king of the Ethiopians, and father of Andromeda, the girl exposed to the sea-monster, according to the well-known tale. Perseus freed her from danger and made her his wife. And so, that the whole family be commemorated, the gods numbered Cepheus, too, among the constellations. CASSIEPIA: [CASSIOPEIA] Euripides and Sophocles and many others have said of her that she boasted that she excelled the Nereids in beauty. For this she was put among the constellations, seated in a chair [?]. On account of her impiety, as the sky turns, she seems to be carried along lying on her back. ANDROMEDA: They say she was put among the constellations by the favour of Minerva, on account of the valor of Perseus, who freed her from danger when exposed to the sea-monster. Nor did he receive less kindness from her in return for his good deed. For neither her father Cepheus nor her mother Cassiepia could dissuade her from following Perseus, leaving parents and country. About her Euripides has written a most excellent play with her name as title.
Astronomica, 2.9.1-2.11.1. Translation by Mary Grant.
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According to the Suda, the comedy writer Phormos wrote a work called Kepheus/Cepheus and another work called Perseus.
Syracusan, writer of comedy, contemporary of Epicharmus, friendly with the Sicilian tyrant Gelon and tutor to his children. He wrote 6 dramas, which are as follows: Admetos, Alkinous, Alkyones, The Sack of Troy [or] The Horse, Kepheus or Kephalaia or Perseus. He was the first to use a full-length garment and a booth of purple skins. Athenaeus in the Deipnosophists mentions another play also, the Atalanta.
Suda, phi, 609. Translation by Tony Natoli.
Another author to write an Andromeda was Phrynichus, I imagine it is also about her rescue. This play was a parody.
Son of Melanthas; Athenian, tragic poet. His plays include the following: Andromeda, Erigone. He also created Pyrrhics [war-dances]. [Note] that the Athenians fined Phrynichus a thousand [sc. drachmas] after he had depicted the capture of Miletus in a tragedy.
Suda, phi, 756. Translation by David Whitehead.
According to "Fragments of Old Comedy, Volume III: Philonicus to Xenophon. Adespotay" pg 47, Phrynichus presented a humorous parody that showed a drunken old woman being threatened by the sea monster, in reference to the myth of Andromeda. I honestly don’t know if this presentation is part of the Andromeda mentioned in the Suda.
As part of the trilogy with The Net-Draggers (Dictys' rescue of Danae and Perseus) and The Phorcydes (Perseus' encounter with the Graiai), Aeschylus also wrote a play entitled Polydectes. Unfortunately, no fragments survive from this play and we only know its name and authorship. I have a hunch that it might be about Perseus' return to Seriphus because that would complete the story: he arrives in Seriphus in The Net-Draggers, he goes after Medusa in The Phorcydes (and we know there's a passage describing him entering the cave of the gorgons in that play), and finally he returns to Seriphus in Polydectes. But of course, that's just a guess and there's no way to prove anything precisely because there's no fragment. For that reason, I didn't put it anywhere in the post's chronology and instead put it here.
According to Thomas Sims: “[...] and only the titles of Timocles’ Lycurgus and the Phorcides of Timocles or Philocles are known, preserved in the inscriptional records.” (A Commentary on the Fragments of Fourth-century Tragedy, pg 63). In other words, Timocles of Athens wrote a play with the title “Phorcides”, which may have the same theme as Aeschylus’ Phorcides and be related to the myth of Perseus. However, the play didn’t survive. As I did with Aeschylus’ Polydectes, I’ll put it here only because there is no way to prove anything. Similarly, Apollophanes wrote a work entitled Danae, but only the title survived.
The Suda mentions a joke related to Danae and Acrisius. It would seem strange to me for an encyclopedia to feature a random pun, so I imagine this pun was popular enough.
The [daughter] of Acrisius. "Go be judged: you are not Danaë the [daughter] of Acrisius." For when she was responding stubbornly to a lawsuit, a certain wiseguy said to her: "Go be judged: you are not Danaë the daughter of Acrisius. "And this mastered the mind of Danaë"; that is, gold.
Suda, delta,57. Translation by Jennifer Benedict.
It doesn't seem to make sense, but that's because it's a pun on Acrisius' name, which is widely accepted as meaning “'ill-judgment”, “"the man of bad judgment" or "the man who is not judged”.
Pausanias comments that Perseus first sacrificed to Zeus of Apesas on Mount Apesas.
[2.15.3] The Argives offer burnt sacrifices to Zeus in Nemea also, and elect a priest of Nemean Zeus; moreover they offer a prize for a race in armour at the winter celebration of the Nemean games. In this place is the grave of Opheltes; around it is a fence of stones, and within the enclosure are altars. There is also a mound of earth which is the tomb of Lycurgus, the father of Opheltes. The spring they call Adrastea for some reason or other, perhaps because Adrastus found it. The land was named, they say, after Nemea, who was another daughter of Asopus. Above Nemea is Mount Apesas, where they say that Perseus first sacrificed to Zeus of Apesas.
Description of Greece, 2.15.3. Translation by W.H.S. Jones.
BONUS: As a bonus, there will be some uncertain information. One of them is my uncertainty as to whether two authors actually wrote the plays that the sites say they wrote, and the other is a Roman source that I have doubts had this information shared with the Greek sources.
Some websites claim that Pratinus of Philius and Aristias of Philius, father and son respectively, both wrote plays entitled "Perseus". However, I honestly haven’t been able to find the source of this information. I, of course, may just not have researched it properly, so I'll put it here as a "bonus" in case anyone knows anything about it.
Unlike the others, this is a Roman source written by Aelianu. It is said that Perseus once tried to rest upon returning to Seriphus, but the frogs kept making noise and it bothered him. He asked Zeus to help him with this, and Zeus made the frogs of Seriphus eternally silent.
In Seriphus you will never hear the Frogs croaking at all. If however you transport them elsewhere, they emit a piercing and most harsh sound.
On mount Pierus in Thessaly there is a lake; it is not perennial but is created in winter by the waters which flow together into it. Now if one throws Frogs into it they become silent, though vocal elsewhere. Touching the Seriphian Frogs the people of Seriphus boast that Perseus arrived from his contest with the Gorgon after covering an immense distance, and being naturally fatigued rested by the lake side and lay down wishing to sleep. The Frogs however worried the hero with their croaking and interrupted his slumbers. But Perseus prayed to his father to silence the Frogs. His father gave ear and to gratify his son condemned the Frogs there to everlasting silence. Theophrastus however upsets the story and relieves the Seriphians of their imposture by asserting that it is the coldness of the water that causes the aforesaid Frogs to be dumb.
Characteristics of Animals, 3.37. Translation by Alwyn Faber Scholfield.
But the interesting point is that there is a source before Aelianus that already mentioned the fact that the frogs are silent, but supposedly make noise if removed from Seriphus. This source was attributed to Aristotle, but nowadays this is no longer a consensus and the author is usually referred to as Pseudo-Aristotle. Although he isn’t Aristotle, he’s still before Aelianus. And I honestly think it is very specific that the frogs are only silent specifically in Seriphus, as if the silence was linked to the location. This makes me think that perhaps Aelianus was passing on the explanation of this Greek legend. Pliny is before Aelianus and also mentions the silence of the frogs, but he is Roman, so there is nothing to prevent it from being a Roman legend in his case. The Suda also mentions it, but the Suda is Byzantine and therefore after Aelianus. It’s really Pseudo-Aristotle who is the key point here.
They say that in Seriphus frogs do not croak, but if they are removed to another place they do.
On Marvellous Things Heard, 70. Translation by W.S. Hett.
Aelianus also mentions a fish called Perseus in the Red Sea. Considering that the Red Sea has been attributed as the location of the myth of Andromeda (e.g. Pausanias), perhaps that is why this particular location supposedly had this fish. He also says that Perseus was quite fond of cicadas. However, none of this information is mentioned in any Greek source as far as I know, so I can't theorize like I did with the Seriphus frogs. Just commenting because yes.
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Here is the alphabetical order of the sources mentioned, including those where the only thing known is the title. The order will be by the author's name, but the works themselves aren’t arranged in alphabetical order. In the case of authors with "Pseudo" I considered them with the letter P. Also, there are other authors who are sometimes represented with Pseudo that I did not put Pseudo, such as Hyginus. Next to each source, I've put a brief explanation of what you can find there, as I imagine it's easier to locate than having to keep returning to the post. With the exception of Hyginus and Aelianus, all the authors are Greek as far as I know.
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Aelianus, Characteristics of Animals - Perseus and animals
Aeschylus, The Net-Draggers - satire of the myth of Dictys' rescue of Perseus and Danae
Aeschylus, The Phorcides - Perseus on his way to kill Medusa
Aeschylus, Polydectes - no information other than authorship and title
Apollonius Rhodius, Argonautica - explanation of the existence of poisonous snakes because of Medusa's blood
Apollophanes, Danae - something with Danae
Aratus, Phenomena - constellation
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Clement of Alexandria, Exhortation to the Greeks - Acrisius’ tomb
Conon, Narrations (Preserved by Photius) - rationalization of Andromeda myth
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Diodorus Siculus, Library of History - rationalization of Medusa myth
Diphilus, Chrysochoos - theorized to be about Danae's confinement
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Eubulus, Danae - Danae confinement
Euripides, Iphigenia at Aulis - mention because of Mycenae foundation
Euripides, Andromeda - the myth of the rescue of Andromeda
Euripides, Alcestis - mention of genealogy
Euripides, Electra - description of Perseus’ mission in a shield
Euripides, Heracles - mention because of genealogy
Euripides, Danae - the myth of prophecy and pregnancy
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Herodotus, Histories - about Perses
Hesiod, Theogony - Medusa’s background and mention of Perseus at the moment he cuts off her head
Hesiod, Catalogues of Women - Danae’s genealogy
Hesiod, Shield of Heracles - description of Perseus’ mission in a shield
Homer, The Iliad - mention of Danae because of Zeus’ affairs
Hyginus, Astronomica - constellation
Hyginus, Fabulae - versions of the myth
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Ioannis Tzetzes, Ad Lycophronem - scholia of Lycophron’s Alexandra, extra details
L |
Lycophron of Chalcis, Alexandra - mention of de myth of Medusa and the myth of the rescue of Andromeda
Lycophron of Chalcis, Andromeda - possibly Andromeda rescue
N |
Nonnus of Panopolis, Dionysiaca - Perseus x Dionysus alternative myth
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Pausanias, Description of Greece - rescue of Andromeda, Andromeda and Perseus’ children, foundation of Mycenae, accidental death of Acrisius, Perseus x Dionysus
Philostratus, Imagines - Andromeda myth
Phromos, Cepheus - ?
Phromos, Perseus - ?
Phrynichos, Andromeda - Andromeda myth parody
Pindar, Pythian Ode 10 and 12 - Medusa myth
Pseudo-Apollodorus, Library - versions of the entire myth
Pseudo-Aristotle, On Marvellous Things Heard - frogs of Seriphus
Pseudo-Eratosthenes, Catasterismi - constellation
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Quintus Smyrnaeus, Posthomerica - Medusa myth
S |
Sannyrion, Danae - confinement myth, but as a comedy
Sophocles, Antigone - mention because of Danae confinement
Sophocles, Acrisius - the myth of prophecy
Sophocles, Danae - Danae's adversities myth
Sophocles, Larissaei - probably the death of Acrisius in Larissa
Strabo, Geography - Medusa myth
T |
Theocritus, Idyll XXIV and Idyll XXV - Heracles ancestrality
Timocles of Athens, The Phorcides - perhaps Perseus and the Graiai
V |
Various authors or Souidas, Suda - alternative myth, lost works
In addition, I used some secondary sources. Obviously, there are the explanatory notes of the translations, but I also used “Euripides Danae and Dictys: Introduction, Text and Commentary” by Ioanna Karamanou, “Dangerous Beauty: Medusa in Classical Art” by Kiki Karoglou and “Falling in Love With Euripides ("Andromeda")” by John Gibert. In a very very very briefer consultation, I also used” A Commentary on the Fragments of Fourth-century Traged” by Thomas Sims and “Aeschylus Dictyulci: A Typically Atypical Satyr Play?” by Patrick O’Sullivan. In case anyone here is also a Portuguese speaker and is interested in the translation of the fragments of Andromeda by Euripides, the name of the text is “OS FRAGMENTOS DE ANDRÔMEDA DE EURÍPIDES”, by Clara Lacerda Crepalti. The Brazilian text referring to Sophocles’ Andromeda is “O sacrifício humano em prol da comunidade: a Andrômeda de Sófocles e o Erecteu de Eurípides”, by Wilson Alves Ribeiro Jr. All translations used were linked and, when the link is not possible, I gave credit to the author/editor/author. I imagine, therefore, that it should be easy to locate the sources.
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greatest apologies to every adult at my school for my inability to remember to schedule emails and thus sending emails at ~1 am
#this goes out to the assistant head of the upper school#i'm sorry for emailing you at like 12 40 am#however i do NOT apologize to my speech teacher and media arts teachers#like they know i'm like this#also sorry to the associate head of school for my deranged email today#also sorry to my history teacher for saying “yada yada yada” in the recent assignment#and my latin teacher for... idk actually#our homework isnt graded in latin so i think me calling medusa lesbian coded should be allowed#i also called acrisius the “weirdo 3000 mobile”#in the name of my lord and savior the sequel nobody wanted#oh i also once sent my speech teacher an email about how i wanted a table#school#emails#emailing#prep school#private school#college prep school#preparatory school#im kinda like so angus tully coded if you think about it#but like if he lived now
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unless your prophecy says that your son is going to kill you, in which case change nothing about your life, treat them with respect AND FOR THE LOVE OF THE GODS DON'T LEAVE THEM ON THE SIDE OF A MOUNTAIN FOR A SHEPHERD TO FIND
pspsps to all my mythological hellenic kings out there if an oracle gives you a prophecy that's all like "as long as x happens/doesn't happen nothing will go wrong ever and you'll be fine" RUN away you are not safe
#greek mythology#myths#no i understand its a blood crime#i do i do#but sir#you can't keep doing this#acrisius#perseus#oedipus#laius#kronos#ouranos#zeus#catreus#althaemenes#technically perseus wasn't the son but shh
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Why is Hera so hostile to Leto in a manner that she isn't with the other lovers of Zeus? I can't think of any other woman who was targeted so much by Hera. One could say she didn't want Leto to give birth because her children would be a competition to Hera's children, but why bother her even after she had already given birth? Is it because Leto herself is also a threat to Hera?
Sort of I guess?
I don't think Leto would ever be a threat to Hera's role as the queen of the gods but Hera might see her as a competitor for Zeus' affection, even though I think Zeus would not marry someone else and replace Hera.
The twins are definitely a big reason why Hera begrudged Leto - it is outright stated in the Callimachus Hymn to Delos that the reason Hera especially targeted Leto was because she was told that Apollo would be dearer to Zeus than Ares is. Zeus is very proud of Artemis as well. As he himself puts it, he doesn't mind facing Hera's wrath for children like her.
But the continued hatred even after the birth of the twins (like sending Tityus to rape Leto) could have been for different reasons. This wasn't like one of those affairs Zeus would have with mortal women where he'd leave them behind once the child is conceived. Neither could Hera, despite her many attempts, get rid of Leto like she did with the other lovers. Not only did Leto give Zeus children that he loves dearly, she also stayed on Olympus despite Hera's hatred towards her (which isn't directed to any of Zeus' other divine mistresses, btw). It might have also been because Leto herself is dear to Zeus, if the way she's treated on Olympus is any proof. In the Homeric hymn to Apollo, Leto stands next to Zeus - in the Olympian assembly - to welcome their son. Hera is completely absent from the scene, as if Leto had taken her place even if temporarily. Now you could say this is because Apollo himself is such a powerful and glorious son in a way that no other son of Zeus is, so of course Leto would get such an honor (the hymn itself presents it this way).
But here's another instance - in the Iliad, when Hera goes to seduce Zeus, he is obviously very smitten but before getting into the action, he lists some of his lovers (I believe these were his favorite lovers, as a lot of others are not mentioned):
"for never has such desire for goddess or mortal woman so gripped and overwhelmed my heart, not even when I was seized by love for Ixion’s wife, who gave birth to Peirithous the gods’ rival in wisdom; or for Acrisius’ daughter, slim-ankled Danaë, who bore Perseus, greatest of warriors; or for the far-famed daughter of Phoenix, who gave me Minos and godlike Rhadamanthus; or for Semele mother of Dionysus, who brings men joy; or for Alcmene at Thebes, whose son was lion-hearted Heracles; or for Demeter of the lovely tresses; or for glorious Leto; or even for you yourself, as this love and sweet desire for you grips me now.’ (Book 14, trans. A. T. Murray)
Notice how when talking about most of them, he also mentions the children they bore to him but when Demeter and Leto are mentioned, he doesn't bring up their children at all despite them being some of the most accomplished kids of his. What's more, he takes Leto's name just before Hera's. I mean, this is an interpretation but it looks like not only did Zeus love Leto the most out of all his mistresses - giving her a place second to that of his wife, but also his love for her wasn't necessarily only because she gave him two amazing children.
Nonnus does something similar in the Dionysiaca (but this time Zeus is enamored with Persephone instead of Hera) but more notably, when Typhoeus attacks Olympus and Zeus is discouraged, Nike takes the form of Leto to encourage him and it's pretty telling of what Leto meant to Zeus.
One interesting similarity between Hera and Leto is that they both had a giant try to rape them. Porphyrion tried to violate Hera (Zeus inspired him to do this) and Tityus tried to violate Leto (upon Hera's order). Though both of them were killed, only Tityus got an eternal punishment in Tartarus of having his liver/heart eaten out by vultures so Zeus seems to have taken a greater offense at Tityus trying to assault Leto.
Again, I don't think Zeus would ever take anyone other than Hera as his permanent wife - she is irreplaceable to him. There's an entire myth about Hera leaving him and Zeus winning her back. Their relationship is obviously complex and involves all kinds of emotions including love and hate. But Leto is continually dear to him as well and that's something Hera can't do much about.
#Zeus#Hera#Leto#if you think about it Leto is like the opposite of Hera#she is a great mother#she bore children that Zeus is actually proud of#she never rebels and even begs for forgiveness when her son rebels against Zeus#she's generally mild natured and never lashes out#also if you look into this obscure myth of how Hera established an altar in the name of Leto#because Leto's name was used to cover up the secret relationship between Zeus and Hera#(which kinda sorta implies that Zeus was *maybe* courting or even married to Leto at that time)#it all gets even more complicated for both Hera and Leto#ALSO in the texts that record the syncretism bw Greek and Egyptian gods#Some authors make Hera the mother of Apollo#and Leto was Apollo's nurse#Those texts also mention that this Apollo defeated Typhoeus and became the king of Egypt#So he was like the ideal son of Zeus and Hera#And it's so interesting to me#how this Apollo - the perfect son of Hera - transitioned into a sort of rival figure to Hera in the greek myths#and Typhoeus who was defeated by Hera's son became the son of Hera in the Greek myths#on a different note#to this day I can't understand why Zeus would inspire Porphyrion to do such a thing#was it to get back at Hera for the Tityus incindent?#I shall headcanon it that way (even though I prefer to ignore this version)#well of course not that Zeus would have ever let Porphyrion actually have his way with Hera regardless of the reason#but yeah that was such move and it's wild that the mythographer didn't tell us that reason behind Zeus' action#I've also seen people hc that it was because Zeus wanted Heracles to save Hera so that she's accept him finally#which is also an interesting explanation#especially if you consider that Heracles was also given Hera's breast milk (without her consent)#anyway that's enough rambling ig
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For the longest time, I couldn't figure out a pattern behind the strangers Arthur is drawn to -- the ones he likes, approves of, and generally enjoys. He seems to gravitate to wildly different types of people: dandy city boys and rugged mountaineers, perky showgirls and abrasive weirdos, gentle souls and circus "freaks," friendly socialites and social outcasts. At first glance, it appears he's simply drawn to people who are unlike him, perhaps out of a sense of curiosity. But I think it's a little more complex than that...
I think Arthur is drawn to people who flamboyantly and courageously defy the expectations placed upon them by their communities, parents, and social circles, whatever those circles may be.
[meta essay, mild side-quest spoilers below...]
While Arthur (being naturally artistic himself) definitely appreciates artists of every field, and while he definitely has a soft spot for young lovers (projection much…), that's only the tip of the iceberg.
Just look at the shortlist! Albert Mason, the hapless urbane gentleman who decided to strike out and chase his passion for wildlife even if it cost him his life and career. Penelope Braithwaite, the young suffragette who loathed tradition and the bumbling pretty-boy son of her wealthy family's arch-nemesis. Charles Châtenay, a gender-bending social troll of an artist who gleefully infuriates prudes and puritans everywhere he goes. Sally Nash, the perky aspiring "second-best woman lion-tamer" in the world. Acrisius and Proetus, the feuding academician brothers who eagerly partake in increasingly ridiculous tests of idiot daring. Charlotte Balfour, a rich big-city widow who eschews her former high-life to live simply with nothing but a rifle she doesn't know how to use. Algernon Wasp, the hapless dandy obsessed with eccentricities and craftswork few people appreciate (but who apparently makes excellent tea). Jaime Gillis, the aimless kid who knows nothing about himself except that he likes apples and can't bear to live the life his father wants for him. Hamish Sinclair, the one-legged veteran who rides, hunts, and remains self-sufficient despite the difficulty of rough-living with his amputation. Marko Dragic, the frankly unpleasant epitome of shunned mad scientist. Miss Marjorie and her "sons," who fight tooth and nail but somehow find a way to love each other in the face of civilization's rejection, a mirror image of Arthur's own outcast family.
Arthur doesn't just begrudgingly help these particular strangers; for the most part, he really likes these people, writes about and draws them favorably in his journal. Admires them, in a way, as foolish and imperiled as they often are.
While it seems the people he likes have little in common with each other, and often little in common with Arthur, they've all boldly done something Arthur himself is trying to find the courage to one day do...
They don't behave. As big and bad as Arthur is in the world at large, within the confines of his own community, he's extremely well-behaved. He does what's asked of him and plays the role of the big baddie gang lieutenant, which is what his elders tell him to be, even when it's in direct conflict with his wishes and (if honorable) his morals and perhaps even his "natural" personality.
tl;dr: Arthur likes defiers of all kinds, because they prove that defiance can be done. Not just simple defiance of laws, but a deeper, more complete defiance. Defiance of the expectations of family, of the roles dictated to you by those close to you, of responsibility heaped upon you without consent -- and yes, even of Dutch.
#rdr2#arthur morgan#red dead redemption#more meta alas#last one for a while i promise i know how to be quiet do NOT hit me with toxic moonshine uwu!!#redmeta
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Potential Hazbin AU Idea:
Radiostatic but as Orpheus and Eurydice…but not in the way you think.
Typically when I am thinking of AUs, Vox is the one who falls into the role of the devoted (obsessed) lover, bound as he is to follow in Alastor’s footsteps like a lost sheep. But what if the roles were switched?
Orpheus is meant to be a great musician and singer (which I feel ties in with Alastor’s background as a radio host), and by the end of his myth is effectively immortal because nature itself refuses to let him die (which is dreadfully ironic given Alastor’s constant search for more power).
He just fits the character perfectly!!
And imagine how compelling the story would be…to have Vox - Alastor’s star bound not-quite-lover - die (preferably in front of him or in a manner that Alastor finds demeaning/insulting) and to then have Alastor go on a hell-wide rampage in a futile attempt to get him back.
There’s room for some fun stuff with Lucifer/Charlie in this as well - seeing as they would effectively replace Hades and Persephone - which is always an added bonus.
And the finale…Alastor finally manages to secure Vox’s soul. He can bring him back, all he needs to do is trust that the television is following him. All he needs to do is not. look. back.
But he will. Because fundamentally Alastor trusts no one but himself, and that will cost him everything (ie: Vox).
And when Alastor’s paranoia gets the best of him, and he whips around to see Vox - or a visage of him at least, trapped in some nebulous place in the past Alastor swore he’d never see again, his screen not yet lit by the light at the end of the tunnel - that will be the ultimate betrayal.
And when shadows even he can’t control tear Vox away from him - dragging him somewhere Alastor can’t follow - Alastor will finally understand that he has doomed them. He is King Acrisius and his mistrust is his prison, making Vox the unwilling collateral damage.
Idk, they’re kind of silly I guess. Considering writing something like this, is anyone interested?
#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel vox#vox#alastor#hazbin alastor#voxal#radiostatic#greek mythology#hazbin au#orpheus#eurydice#I love torturing my favorite characters#(smirks in the manner of someone who is doing something evil and relishes it)#I’m a villain
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Me defending Narcissus from Echo and Ameinias
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Leave Narcissus alone, if you need a metaphor of selfishness and only caring for yourself while causing others pain for your own gain, Tereus and like a dozen other mortal kings are right there.
#Acrisius is a better example of selfishness too#text#greek mythology#narcissus#ancient greek mythology#greek pantheon#echo#Ameinias#Instagram
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Ophelia: Oh I can't tell you what I saw
Glenn: Why not
Ophelia: Many reasons. Cheating, self fulfilling prophecies, past bad experiences-
Glenn: Cheating?
Ophelia: Like lottery numbers, I'm obviously not going to tell you those. Drives Drusilla mad but I won't
Glenn: And self fulfilling prophecies?
Ophelia: Acrisius and Perseus?
Glenn: Who?
Ophelia: Does nobody study the classics anymore? Acrisius got a prophecy that his grandson would kill him so he ordered him and his mother thrown into the sea to prevent it
Glenn: The heck?
Ophelia: Perseus of course didn't die, and after a bunch of stuff like sea monsters and Medusa got back to his mothers home where he threw a discus that killed Acrisius thus fulfilling the prophecy
Glenn: I don't follow
Ophelia: In trying to avoid the prophecy he took actions which in fact led to the prophecy being fulfilled. Basically if you think something is going to happen you'll consciously or unconsciously make it happen by doing or not doing things
Glenn: But I'm not wanting a bad prophecy. I want to get over Grayson. I want to find another love
Ophelia: I want that for you to but I'm not going to throw it off track by meddling. Beyond straight prophecy the future is...
Glenn: Is what
Ophelia: I'm not sure your mind can comprehend. It's like I get pieces of a puzzle or threads of a tapestry and they may not make sense alone and I can't always see how they connect to other events
Glenn: But you saw I should go on the BC and you told me
Ophelia: Yeah because I could see I would do that and I could see it led to your best future. Are you sure Grayson was the only nice one there?
Glenn: What do you mean? If you say Brandon-
Ophelia: Oh Carmine told me about him, he was the trouble making contestant no? His future lies on a separate path to you
Glenn: Then who
Ophelia: All I will say is that being on the show connected them to you, even if you don't know it yet
Glenn sighed and got up.
Glenn: I better get this pie to Phoebus. Hey, umm, I'm sorry for being rude
Ophelia: Oh honey I live under the same roof as Drusilla and Carmine. I get rude three times before breakfasts. I'll survive
Glenn: What did you come over here for? The thing you waited for me to finish baking for? You can't see though walls can you
Ophelia: *laughing* No indeed. I did just see when you would be done. Sometimes my foresight gives me big things like love stories and sometimes it gives me clearer little things like when someone will have time to talk
Glenn: So you already know what my answer will be
Ophelia: Of course! But I still need to ask you. If I manage to get my hands on some Valerian root do you think you could plant some in a way that it would grow more? It's getting harder and harder to get and, well, many of us will need it
Glenn: Sure Ophelia. I can do that
Ophelia: Thank you Glenn. I better go home myself so I can catch the flask Carmine is going to drop
Glenn: Was that a joke...
Ophelia: No. She's going to drop one in ninety three seconds
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