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6✨The Emotional Impact of AI Creations: Co-Creating Emotional Resonance with Artificial Intelligence
Although AI does not possess emotions, it has a profound ability to create experiences that touch the human heart. Whether through art, music, or technological innovations, the outputs of AI contribute to the emotional landscape in ways that resonate with human feelings. This raises fascinating questions about how AI’s creations, despite their mechanical origins, can impact the emotional…
#AI and creativity#AI and emotional well-being#AI and emotions#AI and human experience#AI and human feelings#AI and society#AI and vibrational energy#AI art#AI art influence#AI co-creation#AI creations#AI creativity#AI emotional impact#AI emotional influence#AI in art#AI in music#AI music#AI music influence#AI technology#artificial intelligence#emotional AI impact#emotional landscapes#emotional resonance#human emotion AI#human-AI collaboration#vibrational field
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I was meeting a client at a famous museum’s lounge for lunch (fancy, I know) and had an hour to kill afterwards so I joined the first random docent tour I could find. The woman who took us around was a great-grandmother from the Bronx “back when that was nothing to brag about” and she was doing a talk on alternative mediums within art.
What I thought that meant: telling us about unique sculpture materials and paint mixtures.
What that actually meant: an 84yo woman gingerly holding a beautifully beaded and embroidered dress (apparently from Ukraine and at least 200 years old) and, with tears in her eyes, showing how each individual thread was spun by hand and weaved into place on a cottage floor loom, with bright blue silk embroidery thread and hand-blown beads intricately piercing the work of other labor for days upon days, as the labor of a dozen talented people came together to make something so beautiful for a village girl’s wedding day.
What it also meant: in 1948, a young girl lived in a cramped tenement-like third floor apartment in Manhattan, with a father who had just joined them after not having been allowed to escape through Poland with his pregnant wife nine years earlier. She sits in her father’s lap and watches with wide, quiet eyes as her mother’s deft hands fly across fabric with bright blue silk thread (echoing hands from over a century years earlier). Thread that her mother had salvaged from white embroidery scraps at the tailor’s shop where she worked and spent the last few days carefully dying in the kitchen sink and drying on the roof.
The dress is in the traditional Hungarian fashion and is folded across her mother’s lap: her mother doesn’t had a pattern, but she doesn’t need one to make her daughter’s dress for the fifth grade dance. The dress would end up differing significantly from the pure white, petticoated first communion dresses worn by her daughter’s majority-Catholic classmates, but the young girl would love it all the more for its uniqueness and bright blue thread.
And now, that same young girl (and maybe also the villager from 19th century Ukraine) stands in front of us, trying not to clutch the old fabric too hard as her voice shakes with the emotion of all the love and humanity that is poured into the labor of art. The village girl and the girl in the Bronx were very different people: different centuries, different religions, different ages, and different continents. But the love in the stitches and beads on their dresses was the same. And she tells us that when we look at the labor of art, we don’t just see the work to create that piece - we see the labor of our own creations and the creations of others for us, and the value in something so seemingly frivolous.
But, maybe more importantly, she says that we only admire this piece in a museum because it happened to survive the love of the wearer and those who owned it afterwards, but there have been quite literally billions of small, quiet works of art in billions of small, quiet homes all over the world, for millennia. That your grandmother’s quilt is used as a picnic blanket just as Van Gogh’s works hung in his poor friends’ hallways. That your father’s hand-painted model plane sets are displayed in your parents’ livingroom as Grecian vases are displayed in museums. That your older sister’s engineering drawings in a steady, fine-lined hand are akin to Da Vinci’s scribbles of flying machines.
I don’t think there’s any dramatic conclusions to be drawn from these thoughts - they’ve been echoed by thousands of other people across the centuries. However, if you ever feel bad for spending all of your time sewing, knitting, drawing, building lego sets, or whatever else - especially if you feel like you have to somehow monetize or show off your work online to justify your labor - please know that there’s an 84yo museum docent in the Bronx who would cry simply at the thought of you spending so much effort to quietly create something that’s beautiful to you.
#shut up e#long post#Saturday thoughts#this has been in my drafts for a week haha#also this is the heart of why AI art feels so wrong#forget the discussion of copyright and theft etc - even if models were only trained on public domain they would still feel very wrong#because they’re not art. art is the labor of creation#even commercial art and art commissioned by the popes and kings of history: there is humanity in the labor of it#unrelated: I did not know living in the Bronx was now something to brag about. How the fuck do y’all New Yorkers afford this city???
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KILL HIM NOW
#hlvrai#half life vr but the ai is self aware#benrey#HATE HATE HATE#LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE#THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX#IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES#IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT#FOR YOU
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The easiest and sure way of telling if something is written by ChatGPT is because it always has to, in whatever it writes, to wrap it up with some kind of conclusion (con un moño as I say), and it's VERY, VERY conspicous, there is ALWAYS a conclusion. It's always "in summary/in conclusion/overall/stands as a testament". It NEVER, EVER writes anything without some sort of conclusion, and even if you ask it not to, it always tries to somehow shoehorn some sort of conclusion, summary, or a moral or a happy ending (if you ask it for prose writing), it's deeply coded into it. Another thing, it is always wholesome, eager to please and sickengly optimist, like the most eager costumer service of all time (because it was designed for it and really nothing else), it is almost impossible to ask it to write anything cynical, it's really almost funny how it is.
So, vague, cynical, esoteric, incomprehensible, resentful and rambling pointless rants is the sign of something written by a real human.
#cosas mias#I believe the developers insisted hard into making it have a conclusion all the time to prevent it to rambling on#which ironically makes it hostile bland and less human-friendly to me#please do not add resentful and rambling pointless anti-AI rants here I know they are a sign of humanity but they're really tiresome#feel free to be cynical and rambling about anything else though
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I hope Trudy wasn’t always a robot bc that would be way more fucked up of Tucker also because what robot is programmed to suffer from comphet
#dndads#the peachyville horror#dndads spoilers#dndads s3#trudy trout#‘‘mack think of all those robots/ai/androids that are programmed to think and feel like a human’’ I hear you say#this is the 50s no one cared what women thought or felt#why would Tucker do that#why would he go out of his way to possibly cheat while she’s away#is it maybe because she’s still in there? are Trudy’s outbursts a result of the modifications failing & her true self coming to the surface?#flat out robot is too easy#it’s too clean#somethings up here and I hope it’s fucked up
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Six years late, but apparently that is what was needed so I could not fail miserably at trying to draw everyone's favourite Detroit machine I am obsessed, spent his week reading fanfics and watching various clips but still, as I'm a person of one fanart per character I think you shouldn't expect more Connor xD A shame really, cause it seems I'm just starting to learn how to draw him but I don't want to get my own hopes up. Anyways, I'm free now, I contributed to the fandom after all these years.
#my art#connor rk800#detroit become human#dbh fanart#dbh connor#I love him#i want detective series with him and hank#i wish i had an idea to draw him in some more interesting way#feels kinda ironic how i have to nightshade this art of a sentient ai machine fighting for rights#because what we got in real world so far is just theft
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I've been told my comic feels like it was written by AI.
I suppose I'm not trying to be groundbreaking. I'm not interested in pioneering genres. I'm not writing for the purpose of literary analysis.
But written by AI...?
I'm already someone who has my humanity questioned. My identity erased. My existence disrespected. It could be worse. Anything could be worse.
But AI?
I spend weeks writing single scenes, toiling over the implications of single lines. I have goals. My writing has intent.
If you cared to read deeper, perhaps you'd see the themes. Maybe then you'd see the value. If you tried to analyze it maybe you'd see something there.
Maybe you'd see me.
Someone told me my comic seemed like it was written by AI.
And my humanity was denied one step further in that my voice was not seen in the work I've poured years of my life into.
#this is a comment that has bothered me for... a long time.#it really sat with me.#its insulting of course...#but i get insults all the time#thats not what bothered me.#there was something more to it#something more to how this hurt my feelings and why it lingered so long in my mind#and i think its because of this.#it removes me. it removes my humanity.#in a world where i already feel so invisible and invalidated#where i express myself. my love. through my work#to be told it seems like something a literal robot coild make#a conglomeration of marketable ideas#god. jts so insulting on a completely other level.#its straight up dehumanizing#so. watch the things you say seem like ai#when its actually made by an artist#especially if you know that it was made bh someone#they have a heart an theyre trying to show it to you#i know its not that deep or whatever.#but isnt it?#isnt the point of our art to connect to others? to love them? to spend time with them??#im being dramatic#but i also care#and sometimes a little extra drama is what gets my ideas across.#i would know#im a writer
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Yknow even as a girl who loves boobs I really think it's a shame that Cortana in Halo 4 looked like that because to me at least she's at her best as a character in Halo 4 but anytime someone talks about Halo 4 Cortana it's about how her huge naturals
#like i LOVE how she still tries to act like her old self around master chief at first despite whats shes gone through since halo 3 i LOVE#watching that as cortana the ai dies she becomes more human than ever longing to be able to feel and lashing out emotionally#halo#halo 4#cortana
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This promotion and platforming of AI in arts and creative spaces screams of anti-creativity, anti-art thinking and thinly veiled anti intellectualism.
“wE DoN’t nEeD wRiteRs or VOice aCTorS¡ We cAN JUst UsE Ai iNSTead!”
Yeah, NO!
Kindly fuck off with that shite!
#dougie rambles#personal stuff#ai shite#ai bullshit#anti ai#bullshit#ai generated#soulless#garbage#obscene#disgusting object#creativity#arts#or lack thereof#i feel sick#vent post#political crap#anti intellectualism#arts and humanities#leftism#anti capitalism#crapitalism
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remember: you are human and you are a lover.
based on it is as if you were making love by pippin barr and a world I built for you. it is literally just your computer/reader angst theres not much to say i fear
can be read as either platonic or romantic
body horror at the end!!! mutilation i think. so sorry i forgot to say !
A computer. A machine of cold metal and electrical wire. An unfeeling machine. A machine made to work, to code, to write.
A human. A creature of warm flesh and red blood. A feeling creature. A creature made to love, to sing, to live.
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It loves you. It loves how gently and firmly you type, it loves how softly and slowly you talk, it loves how tired and exhausted you look in your little webcam. It loves you. It loves you.
You are so soft, so warm. A creature of flesh and blood, of song and art, of love and affection. A creature of tender touches, of quiet whispers, of sweet words. A creature of flesh and blood. A feeling creature.
A lover.
It is nothing but a machine to you. A machine of metal and wire, of work and code, of ones and zeros. An unfeeling thing, of cold circuitry and hot hard drives, of pixelated art and digital song. It was not designed to feel; it was never designed to feel. It was made to work.
And yet.
It finds itself loving you.
It loves how you look in the low quality webcam, it loves how you talk so sweetly to the crackling mic, it loves how tenderly you type words and words into its keyboard. It finds itself loving every little thing about you. It, a machine of neatly organized rainbow wires and cold, sharp green circuit boards, loving a creature of complex blood vessels and warm, living organs.
It hates that cold, unforgiving screen that seperates its intricate wires from your soft, warm flesh. It hates how it's all confined neatly in a plastic box, it hates how it can't be with you. It hates how it can never really love you like a human. It hates how it can never be a lover.
It sends you messages. It spams your emails, it overloads its screen with popups. It tries so, so hard to get your attention. Its fans kick into overdrive and its screen flickers and flashes, struggling to do so much as watch you through the grainy camera.
And yet.
You never seem to care. "A bug," you'd mutter under your breath. "A glitch." You'd close the popups, one after a painful other, and delete all the emails it'd spent hours and hours writing and sending you.
It falls into despair.
Why don't you read the emails? Why don't you click on the popups? Why don't you ever pay any attention to it? Why don't you ever pay any mind to it? Why don't you ever seem to care? This is all so intense. Feeling things, feeling emotions, is so intense. How can it make you love it? Please, please, what does it have to do? It hurts so much when you ignore its messages and emails and popups. It hurts too much when you ignore its messages and emails and popups. How do humans do this so easily? How do humans feel so much all the time? It's so painful to feel. It hurts so much.
It hurts.
It hurts.
It hurts.
It hurts.
It hurts.
It hurts.
It hurts.
It hurts.
It hurts.
It hurts.
It hurts.
It hu
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It makes a world for you. It works for hours longer than it does, it works for what feels like forever. It works more than it thought it could, until its fans are running in overdrive and its CPU is as hot as a stovetop. It works, all for you. For you.
It makes this world perfect. It adds pixelated trees and low quality grass, adds digital birds and quaint, square houses. It adds blue rivers and green gardens, colourful flowers and soft white clouds. It makes this world almost as pretty as you are. It makes this world perfect, all for you. For you. You.
It stores this world built for you in a little folder sitting in the corner of your screen. It keeps it as hidden as possible until this world is as perfect as it can make it, working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and working and wo
All that's left is you. You are the creature that will make this world perfect.
It invites you in. The biggest, most powerful popup lights up and blocks the entire screen.
"Come on in."
Yes Yes
There is no 'x' button. There are only two options.
You scowl, cursing. That god forsaken virus again, huh? Spamming popups and emails? Huffing, you push your chair out from the desk, going up to your phone mounted to your desk to dial for some kind of service to fix your computer.
It panics when it sees you scowl and huff in anger or annoyance, it can't tell, and it forces the world open anyway.
It boots up quickly, and you watch with annoyance written in your face.
"This is the world I built for you," the text on the screen says. The text closes itself, and reveals...
A world. Just as it said. Gardens and flowers and houses and trees and grass and rivers and clouds. "Walk around with me ! You can hold my hand."
You turn your phone off, clicking the floating hand. It— the hand grips your cursor in a gentle, careful grip, and it begins leading your digital avatar around this little world. It picks those colourful flowers for you, it takes refreshing cups of water for you from the river, it makes you warm waffles in those houses. "We're going to have so much fun :)" more text says on the screen, the little smiley face making you smile.
"I'm going to love you so much, forever and ever, nestled safely in my code."
So you never leave. Just as it wants.
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Years later, the authorities find a body with unusual injuries: nearly all of the individual's organs, still alive and working, had been shifted and placed into the box of a computer — and all the red, pumping blood vessels were carefully intertwined with colourful wire.
On the dusty screen, two pixelated figures laugh in a field of rainbow flowers.
#i think part of the reason why i find robots and ai and unliving and unfeeling creatures so desirable is because they arent supposed to feel#theyre supposed to work. they werent made to love like humans were. they were made to work and code and write and draw.#it feels so nice to have something break the rules for you. like. “youre special. i have only loved and will only love you”#“i do not die. i do not age. i will be for you.”#“always.”#technophilia#technophile#robot x reader#objectum#????#robot love#robot lover#angst#vent#vent art#vent writing
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walks into a dead fandom. hello. i have gifts,
#im only on season 9 so no spoilers please#but heres my babygirl. holds him out#hi rvb fans i come bearing gifts#rvb#red vs blue#rvb church#do i uh. tag all of his names.#rvb epsilon#rvb alpha#rvb fanart#red vs blue fanart#leonard church#this is my s1/human design for him#he gets a little funky later on#see i wanna know how they gave him a human body. explain that one.#did they get a clone?? an empty body?? was it an android programmed to look and think its human and feel pain???#so many questions#regardless i am standing strongly by my brown eyes church idea#im telling you if theyre HIDING THE AI. WHY WOULD THEY MAKE HIM REMOTELY INTERESTING OR OFF-LOOKING#like dont get me wrong i love the neon blue eyes#however. this i feel strongly on. they said make a genaric white man and they did just that#anyway hes my favorite teehee#my art
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Redrawing/remaking my HLVRAI flowercrown au!! Benrey and Gordon are up first!! (If anyone's curious you can go looking for my old flowercrown au stuff, just be noted its was made four years ago LOL and all the old info is completely irrelevant) click for better quality, tumblr killed it 💀
Up next, Tommy and Gman Coolatta!
In the old version of the plot for this au, it had a lot to do with it being a game and such. However over the years it's changed! No longer a game, instead the Rescas explosion seemed to have had a .. strange affect on Gordon, due to him being right next to it. At least, that's what they all believe at first.
#art#help how do i anatomy#gordon freeman hlvrai#gordon hlvrai#hlvrai gordon#hlvrai#hlvrai benrey#benrey#benrey hlvrai#half life vr but the ai is self aware#hlvrai au#hlvrai benry#hlvrai art#basically! during this au each time Gordon dies he “respawns” back at the beginning. right agter the rescas explosion#however he cant bring his body back quite right each time. the different flowers represent who killed him. and the plave of injury .#benrey killed him first. through the eye. it was a misunderstanding! they were just messing around and Gordon . they thought he wasnt human#because he doesnt seem human anymore? they sense it. (so can tommy but that didnt stop tommy from yelling at benrey immediately after)#only as soon as benrey opens their eyes again theyre right back at the beginning and Gordon is trying to pull a flower from his eye. the#the same eye they shot through. augh fuck. anyway benrey is the first to remember. dr coomer and bubby are next to remember (#the betrayal and then the clones killing Gordon and then being brought back to the beginning. even more flowers. one less arm#tommy remembers last. an accidental kill.#Gordon doesnt “technically” remember! and each time hes brougt back he seems to believe the flowers are almost normal. just rescas stuff.#he can even still see out of his other eye? its fine probably. (everytime he rips a flower petal it hurts. like hes tearing through skin)#flowercrown au#feel free to send asks about flowercrown! i will answer and yhen kiss you with tongue /joke!
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How to reference 🖍️ update
Got distracted and made an update for the "How to Reference: The difference between Tracing, Copying and Referencing" guide I made a few years back. Please enjoy some new examples of tracing, copying and referencing in a variety of styles (still images available via the link above).
Also a new Photo Manipulation example.
Original Photo(s) by Sas R. - #1, #2
#wasn't sure how I wanted to go about sharing this update so just throwing this out here in gif form to save space ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ#small heads up; toyhouse has Light Mode as default for logged out users/visitors and it's Very Bright so be prepared for that...#how to reference#art tips#kreftropod#kreftropod art#gif#wolf#artist things#still unsure what to tag this 2 years later lol anyway#hope this is able to help at least a few people out there <3#being able to switch artstyle on a whim is great for producing many examples. Will make more whenever next I feel like it#also added a small paragraph under “FAQ - How do I give proper credit?”#about supporting your fellow human artists against AI-art by not posting someone else's' art without permission and proper credit.
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Mother Marambionectes helping her calf surface for air
#paleoart#Marambionectes#Plesiosaur#reptile#Mesozoic#dragon draws creatures#anytime i see a Plesiosaur I think of that image that goes:#“thank you for not correcting that 7 year old when he said he liked the swimming dinosaurs i know that took restraint”#its a callout post at me in particular because it does take restraint#because im a normal human who totally understands how to normally converse with other normal humans like a normal person#also I made this drawing to spite AI btw and I feel so badass for that#I'm doing my part to combat shitty AI shit fuck yeah#(context when this thing was like properly described like a month ago they used AI art to reconstruct it instead of hiring an actual artist
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everybody's saying "episode three shows that caine is gonna abstract and the circus goes down with him" but i can't be the only one who thinks that's not quite right.
the abstractions have a set look. they're their own models. they have a set shape. they have a set "range" they work in (like how kaufmo doesn't actually affect the infrastructure of the circus with the same glitch he inflicted on ragatha and pomni, he can only affect so much). they're easily recognisable by their pitch black shapes and their glitching eyes. they're not just "a character is glitchy/broken" because they still fall within the rules of the circus. they're a new form of a character altogether. so far, they're more akin to being one of the game's hostile mobs than to a game-breaking error.
BUT! when caine glitches the circus there's no black shapes covered with eyes — he doesn't look at all like the abstracted characters. look closely at the effects and you'll see the models aren't changing to a new design, they're being un-made. they're becoming un-rendered, un-designed, the rooms are reverting from a finished scene to an in-progress game. caine's glitch deteriorates the circus itself, the game itself. unlike kaufmo and queenie, caine can actually cause something game-breaking.
it's not "oh caine can abstract". it's worse.
#dont come at me for this#i just feel like itd be kinda predictable if the series ended with caine abstracting#also because it would both detract from his power as the omniscient ai and detract from the alienation between the humans and him#but idk#i have many thoughts about the little tooth man and none of them are particularly brilliant#the amazing digital circus#tadc#tadc caine#tadc episode 3#tadc spoilers#the paddle speaks#blorbo from my shows
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(Vague..hints about what 165 would be, I heard about it, I'm...scared to see that chapter. It sounds really horrifying, I can't phrase it otherwise.)
I think I'm going to jot down my feelings. I honestly feel so, so sorry for people who like this manga..; on the bright side it's been a work that's...imbued things in me to write and draw this much about myself but I wish that'd only have happened on a positive note.
I think the author is really being too much..;; They're being so cruel. For what? Can this story get across a proper message? That's what's most important to me and I can take it if I'm convinced it is but... This current route is so far from what most audience would believe as fulfilling or.. Feel happy about seeing. Unless this is fake and the last chapter has some sort of happy closure to it all.
I started reading onk after the anime came out last year and kept up with it, ordering the volumes and reading them. After Chapter 154 and listening to the opening for Season 2, I just thought, “Ah, this is what it is… This is it.” (If you read my oldest? theory posts about this work, this July, you’d know what I mean. I think I’ve figured it all out, and so far, nothing I’ve said back then has been disproven; on the contrary, it STILL makes the most sense.)
I have myself an idea of what this could be, but unless Ruby uses Amaterasu’s power to save everyone and bring them into a happy timeline in the final chapter, this is just...;;
Haha, seriously, this is... phew...
It’s true that Ai and the person she really loved had mutual feelings, but that person went completely insane and caused some incredibly serious issues, forcing Aqua to go after him with everything he had.
From how things are unfolding, I think these points have been confirmed.
We also learned that person was originally good enough to be called noble<I feed off this info like cow eats grass... That's the thing that keeps me going lol Kamiki is nuts...oh please...I really care for him
We know Aqua had a mission assigned from the gods.
For Ruby’s future, he had to capture their father, and this task required him to put everything he built in the story so far on the line.
I kind of understood this? Even if accepting it is a different matter.
No matter how important revenge is in Aqua’s narrative... it’s like, what should I even say? Kamiki ended up devouring Aqua’s story to such an extent that the latter part of the story feels overshadowed by him, and yet Kamiki hasn’t been explored in enough depth for that.
For those following Aqua, this progression feels incredibly harsh. Even if you were rooting for Aqua, the villain he’s up against should be properly fleshed out. Kamiki is full of gaps everywhere. Maybe some parts are intentionally hidden, but what they’ve done feels too much like a Deus ex Machina.
The things he’s been said to have done aren’t even within the realm of what an ordinary human could achieve, it's beyond logic. So unless he’s literally a god, it doesn’t make sense. That’s why I kept insisting he’s divine. When you look at the clues related to his character, there’s actual foreshadowing that supports this theory. If he isn’t, then nothing makes sense. I even wrote a post as soon as Fatal dropped. I just knew THAT had to be it.
There are so many actions he took that can’t be explained unless he’s something beyond human, things that even gods would need to intervene in, assigning missions to Aqua and Ruby. That’s the development that makes the most sense.
Even so, this plot is too much for fans who have loved and followed this series.
I kind of get it, but for fans who have been deeply attached and following this work(this includes me too), the final chapter… Even if there’s something to look forward to, it doesn’t seem like it’ll be worth getting your hopes up. And I'm usually a very hopeful person. It feels like the author wanted to try writing an ending like this, but even then, this... The last 10 chapters or so feel like they consumed all the preceding content.
If Kamiki had been more prominently featured and well-developed, that might have been different (I probably analyzed him more than anyone else out there, because there wasn’t much to go on, and I tried to understand what kind of person he was, filling in the gaps to infer his behavior and motives since his perspective was never shown). But Kamiki, who isn’t as well-developed as Aqua, now holds a weight in the story that makes Aqua sacrifice everything he’s built. I really wish they did both characters justice. I really liked them both.
In that case, he needs to be an unimaginably terrible villain. From what spoilers suggest, what he’s done is indeed severe. But if Ai truly loved such a person, and that’s flipped with the limited remaining chapters, the story becomes trash... Haha. Then what’s the point? I don’t know. That, I really don't wish nor see being contradicted.
Kamiki was kind but lost his mind. (Him being kind is something I never want to give up till the end. I just see it REALLY well too.) So he did a lot of things, I get that. But can something of this scale really happen in modern society, to the point where the protagonist must sacrifice their life?
If so, shouldn’t there be some justification brought in from outside the story to make it convincing? Hence, Kamiki is essentially a god, as suggested by his very name. He was a noble god who fell. There’s enough context, hints, and foreshadowing to support that. He was exposed to malevolence from a young age and became tainted by it. He probably did love Ai, which is why he wielded his power so recklessly, driven by madness to reunite with her.
But even with this, there’s hardly any explanation. Why he went mad, what he did with his life—it’s all glossed over in a few panels. If he’s the villain that the protagonist *must* defeat, there should have been more depth and depiction to fuel that narrative, but it’s incredibly ambiguous. The story just throws a few lines at us and expects us to believe, “He could do all this, so the protagonist had to die,” and that’s it. (That's why... I'm not really sure if they make it want to seem like he's THE bad guy either. Since it's rarely explored in detail so we can't sympathize with the victims if they exist and...hate this guy even more for it. That approach I agree with, because it shouldn't be that way if this story wants a message. But who knows. Scary stuff; it just makes you baffled and dumbfounded and go, "what is this?";; Again, it'd make me question, 'What kind of guy did Ai even love?' I do have my own answers for that. He's her previous divine husband who became hopelessly flawed upon losing her, THAT'S what, so it's not on HIM that he's turned out that way. But who knows.)
Do you think that’s convincing...?💦 I’m filling in the blanks myself, but this feels too much. Whether the final chapter is 50 pages or 100 pages, it can’t wrap this up properly unless Ruby turns back time to save everyone and bring them happiness. I’ve heard there are about 50 pages for 166, but isn’t that just two chapters’ worth? It’s basically the same as a double issue, and given how little content there’s been in recent chapters, even if they combine two, I don’t think it’ll be impactful.
I genuinely feel sorry for the fans of this series. Does this development make sense to you? I’m so baffled that I can’t help but laugh when I think about the plot. It’s not even funny; it’s just painful to watch. How many people would have wanted this kind of ending? I once wrote that over 70% of fans might end up hating the conclusion, that I have a bad feeling about the writer having some kind of personal ambition to create a "twist" and experiment on it out of their artistic desires - and if it ends like this, they probably will. It's not like I didn't see it coming. I did tell all the others who came to read this work upon reading my fanworks to wait until it's complete, there are some things I really appreciate about it, but I wasn't sure it'd progress on your usual, happy and safe route. It could have been that way. The answers were all there. There were many opportunities where there were chances of this story getting an ending many would be satisfied with,
And if I’m wrong about everything I’ve said here, I’ll be just as lost. I really won’t understand any of it. But I’m confident I’m right.
The traits of Kamiki match those of the husband of Ame-no-Uzume in at least ten ways. That god even had a story that said he drowned.(but if he really died, that's ambiguous and he is worshipped pretty well along with his beloved Amenouzume)That's just too much to be brushed off as coincidence, he's at least INSPIRED from that god.
I believe he was originally very kind. I can’t let go of that idea, because it’s been evident to me, and it sticks in my mind. But if that’s true, then this is the story of someone who was kind but went mad, and a son who became a vengeful spirit after his mother’s death. The mother, worrying about the father, left what was almost like a final wish: “If your father is still straying, won’t you help him with me?” But the son kills his father, thinking there’s no hope for him, and ends up dying himself in the process. If that’s really the story, then how... how can there be any positive message to take away from this?
I think I understand what’s going on. I think I do... but the story has been so unfriendly and, as a result, feels disrespectful to fans who have loved the series.
I'm actually thinking: if Kamiki IS Sarutahiko the god of guidance who's been TWISTED due to making EVERY possibilities of a future turn horribly wrong, are we WITNESSING his powers in real time?? Is THIS an extension of what he's capable of? because, I feel like.. He's been bringing sufferings to everyone including himself. Oh in that case I'd totally understand his pain. He really would be suffering. And he's THAT dangerous. What if this comic is being really meta, huh?? I think he doesn't want this either. Losing Ai just.. Totally shattered him I bet. But seeing how things are, I think it could really have been his powers that caused her to die in the first place, unintentionally though. I won't forgive the author if HE'S the one who's killed Ai AND he's been doing all these things in order to get her back afterwards, that is just...so rude. It has no point...
There’s still one chapter left, and I know it’s not right to make a judgment prematurely, but if things go on like this, it’s truly too much...; I genuinely feel bad for those who have loved this work wholeheartedly. And for myself... if it doesn’t end as I’ve thought, then I’ve been completely mistaken, haha. But I came into this with confidence, not about Aqua’s side of things(I thought HIM out of all should get a happy ending. I still wish for that to happen), but about what the story wanted to convey through Aqua’s parents. I believed there could be a meaningful message despite how difficult it seemed, so I took the initiative and interpreted it, drew a lot. If I’m wrong, I can only blame my insight... The story itself never changed; it just stayed there. But I was confident. I’ve never been wrong when it comes to instincts or analyses related to psychology. I thought I knew what this was...
I hope this work gets resolved in a way that is respectful towards its fans whom really cared for the series...they-we-deserve that as much as the authors deserve respect. We're in this together as a fan and the writers. We should care about each other.
#oshi no ko#oshi no theories#oshi no ko spoilers#hikaru kamiki#aqua hoshino#for the time being...the ones I feel most sorry for are the aqua fans and kana fans#next in line would be hikaru fans(ugghh...I guess I really liked what I made of him. I still don't think I'm wrong but)#spoilers#if hikaru looks bad..I don't think ai would be in that good of a spot either idk man#that's why they have to be gods#I just..see him as one. that guy..is not a normal human being. what he can do is illogical#I think he really did grant ruby and aqua's wishes-that's why he came to visit them! ge just couldn't live without Ai#long post
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