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[spookcataloger]

Someones' Guardian Angel (no date)

[nobodysuspectsthebutterfly]

Thoughts about the supposed direction Rhaena's storyline is going in Hotd and the apparent Nettles erasure? Disappointing but... I can sort of see where they could take it? Idk... looking at grrm's posts in hindsight kinda makes me even more disappointed if he is as well (he just can't get his adaptations right atp but idk)

Well. Pre-ep7, we're still pending any Rhaena-Sheepstealer bonding, but I'm basically 😑🫠 about the rumors. (I dislike borrowing trouble, I'm not even sure how many of the rumors are true -- actually I'm pretty sure many of these supposed "leaks" are straight up lies -- and yet. Still *disgruntled meh* and *"we're all fine-everyone's fine here" dread*.) Rhaena is one of my more beloved F&B characters (it's the Sansa parallels, I can't help myself), and Nettles has been a super fave since TPATQ and TWOIAF. (Particularly TWOIAF, since the Burned Men fire-witch reveal; heck, I think my little dollmaker is still one of the few fanarts of Nettles in the mountains.)

I mean, sure, I understand that Rhaena's book storyline during the Dance, where she's offpage from basically the start of the war until nearly the end of it, socializing in the Vale and waiting for her egg to hatch, would be difficult to adapt in an action-oriented visuals-oriented television show. (Like Rhaenyra this season sure isn't just catatonically crying from Luke's death until Jace's.) And I'm glad Rhaena's getting more to do, and I'm glad it's directly addressing her feeling slighted and ignored by her family since she doesn't have a dragon. However...

I do not want Rhaena merged into one character with Nettles! I do not want Rhaena to have Sheepstealer and not her hope-for-the-future (doomed hope, and yet) baby dragon Morning, that hatched for her. Also note how pink Morning, worn as a fashion accessory, so suited Rhaena's coquette personality vs her sporty, adventurous twin sister... I mean, I've said before, I understand adaptations can be different, this still wouldn't make HOTD even close to a "loose adaptation".* But I do not want this adaptation to lose Rhaena's personality that I loved.

Or for that matter, to lose Nettles's character, and her importance to the themes and worldbuilding of ASOIAF. (See also.) And her importance to the plot -- but god knows, they're doing all sorts of things with Daemon and Rhaenyra on this show, toxic romance or what have you, who knows if once Daemon reaches his emotional breakthrough or whatever at Harrenhal this season, if they want to backslide him into a cheating plot in S3 while Daemon is again stuck in a castle for months.** Nevertheless, I'd be deeply disappointed to lose scenes like "as well as her dragon, the girl had taken to riding Daemon", or the last morning in Maidenpool scene... and um, you can't really fit Rhaena in there, or if you did, it would certainly put the lie to the ship denialists' "he just treated her like a father, platonically bathing naked together!" (Also the pretty blatant fake S3 leaks including one where Rhaenyra decides Rhaena has betrayed her... are pretty blatantly fake, sorry.)

And then there would be the frankly racist erasure of the one book black character. "Oh but the show made the Velaryons black, so it's not erasing, it's adding more!" No, sorry. (1) I was and am all for adding more racial diversity to the show and especially to Valyrians, but face it, when you take the book's secondary character Velaryons, two who get killed off early and are portrayed as lesser to the "true" Daemon/Rhaenyra marriage, and make them black, you've already done a lot of hinky damage there. (2) What, it's that hard to write three distinct black girls with very different personalities and one from an incredibly different background? I don't see Addam and Alyn getting merged. I don't see Aemond and Daeron getting merged. I don't see Hugh and Ulf getting merged. But I'm not really one to speak here, for this particular discussion I'd point you to @ride-thedragon and @venusintheblindspots-blog and @chrkrose, among others, they have many many posts on this subject in far greater detail and better argued than mine.

OK, so. I still have hope that Nettles -- even if not cast for this season (sorry y'all, that extra is an extra) -- may appear next season, and all this worry will turn out to be a tempest in a teapot. Per last report from the HOTD panel at SDCC, the rumor of Rhaena and Sheepstealer definitely doesn't happen in ep 7, though, yes, there's one episode after. And if it does happen... I'll be strongly disappointed. Deeply, deeply disappointed, and probably far more suspicious of future adaptational changes. But, for me at least, it's not a dealbreaker like GOT S5 was.*** I won't be happy at all about the storyline, but I would like to think the show will remain high quality re themes and character and all. Time will tell, though. Time will definitely tell.

As for GRRM, when his complaints seem to be "wild dragons shouldn't be in the Vale" and "the heraldry with four legs is wrong", well, I struggle to see that he's that disappointed in the adaptational changes. Believe me, I am well used to reading between the lines re GRRM and adaptations, something like the fact that he's not visiting the HOTD writers' room when he's in the UK is nothing. Catch me if at Worldcon or his Oxford lecture in August, GRRM again says that he could write a whole novel about Nettles, or if actually says something about non-Valyrian dragonriders, ok?

*I was just reading up on The Beast (2023) vs Henry James's “The Beast in the Jungle”. lol HOTD doesn't compare. Don't even think it, man.

**You know, this reminds me of how the Dance in F&B is not paced very well for individual characters, they keep going offscreen for months at a time. From shortly after Rhaenyra's crowning to the Fall of KL, Daemon just sits at Harrenhal and occasionally ventures out into the riverlands. From shortly after the Fall of KL until the Battle Above the Gods Eye, Daemon just... sits at Maidenpool and occasionally ventures out into the riverlands (with Nettles). Yeah, obviously a show would need to write more for him to do, he's a main character.

***Thank god HOTD isn't the sort of exploitative shitshow that GOT was. All y'all thinking it was a better adaptation because of your nostalgia goggles (and/or shitty memory) need to actually reread the books (especially AFFC/ADWD) and then submit yourself to the real-world misogynist and homophobic nonsense of S5-6 again, ugh.

[sublimesublemon]

there's actually a rule of law stating that if you are convicted of fewer felonies than the age of the youngest person who has ever held the position you're applying for, the felony counts cannot be held against you in the application process. this is why donald trump can still run for president - the minimum age of a US president is 35, and donald trump was only legally convicted of 34 felonies. for more information, google "donald trump rule 34"

[mew-aka-mimichan]

hay guyse brb imma b on tha ch4n

[radioelly]

he's lying to himself he's very much also a dumb virgin

[sundial-bee-scribbles]

anyone else ever have this random fear of being accused of copying other people unintentionally? like

>be me >see another artist post something cool >"ooh funky i had a really similar idea once!" >get inspired to possibly draw something >"wait but what if their fans or they themselves notice and think i copied their idea and start drama (;;;*_*)" >end up not doing anything

[mugiworm]

Ciara Horan/Eliza

[starrysharks]

i can't say this on twitter because They Will Get Me but what is in the anime water that makes cis dudes so. like that

[kushblazer666]

it’s so obvious to me that the only year this song can even exist in is 2010. so that’s why its so craxy this came out in 2011

[autisticnewfag]

another board-tan artdump: fag edition /aff

your honor, they're gay. (they would canonically call me every slur in the english language)

these are still considered old art, but i still like them

[ell-es-dee]

you’re actually so cool what

thank yeew ‼️‼️

[spookcataloger]

But our wedding is in a few days (2024)

[emo-gremlin]

General Cancer Lord headcanons because I love him

👑 MY MAN'S BUFF AS SHIT. HE'S LITERALLY THIS MEME WITH HIS TITS. VVV

👑 Works out a lot.

👑 His metabolism is FUCKED. When not working out or tending to royal duties, he's munching on something. Whatever kept him sedated in the basement did not treat him well.

👑 Can and will be very primal at times, especially when angry or protective of someone/something.

👑 Quite the gentleman actually. You wouldn't expect it, but he is.

👑 Is somehow very intelligent but also a himbo.

👑 G.O.A.T at making smoothies, whether they be pre workout or general ones. They fucking slap.

👑 However this man cannot cook for shit. A blender is the only thing he's allowed around alone.

👑 His gauntlets don't come off. And when he separates (ie shooting them to grab things/people) from them, he can only go so long before the separation causes him immense pain.

👑 Chaotic pansexual energy and I will go down with this ship don't fucking test me

👑 Being the literal embodiment of how....well "cancerous" 4chan users can be, not many of the Board tans associate with him. However, since their fight, /v/ and CL have become unlikely friends.

👑 Can and will quote any and every meme he's ever heard.

👑 His gauntlets can replicate anything. Knives, TV remotes, those spinning polishing things, etc.

👑 HE PURRS WHEN HAPPY.

👑 Only he can wear his crown and still keep his sanity/free will. No board tan can handle the immense toxic power it holds and completely survive/recover from its effects.

👑 Cancer Lord just kinda...appeared on the 4chan Iles, it wasn't until he was first restrained that everyone understood what exactly he was.

👑 He can survive without his crown, but only half of his strength will remain. Which, is still a lot because he works out, but still.

Yes I'm doing /V/tan next because I love these two.

[eliewe]

[francy-sketches]

>extensive and complex source material >fire and blood ????????