#3x04 Nasty Habits
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dinneratgrannys Ā· 2 years ago
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No one gets off this island without my permission.
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whimsicallyenchantedrose Ā· 11 months ago
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Season 3 Rewatch Drabbles--3x04 Nasty Habits
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Summary: Ā A series of 100-500 word drabbles to accompany my Ā  Ā rewatch of season 3 of Once Upon a Time. Ā There will be a drabbleā€“either a deleted scene, a ā€œfix itā€ fic or a character musing for each episode of the season.Ā  Focus will be on Emma, Henry, the Charmings and Killianā€“with an emphasis on Captain Swanā€™s epic love story.
Word Count: 548
Other Chapters: (1) (2) (3) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) (19) (20) (21) (22) (23) (24) (25) (26) (27) (28)
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Note:Ā  I know itā€™s beenā€¦.foreverā€¦since I updated.Ā  Christmas projects and other real life things got in the way.Ā  Iā€™m hoping to get caught up to 3x7, where the rewatch group is currently, as soon as possible, so with any luck, Iā€™ll be able to post daily (or at least every other day) until that happens!
Emma stormed away praying that this time her parents didnā€™t follow.Ā  They tried but sometimes their love was almostā€¦suffocating.
Particularly in this instance.
They were the perfect, ideal true love couple.Ā  Yes, theyā€™d faced their obstacles, but they had been obstacles from the outside, forces trying to drive them apart.Ā  Their love and trust in each other had never faltered.
And that was great.Ā  Really.Ā  Emma was happy for them, but some people werenā€™t that lucky.
Waves of pain, guilt and insecurity washed over her as she thought about Neal.Ā  Heā€™d folded at the first sign of conflict, preferring to run, to send her to jail, rather than fight for their love.Ā  Suddenly she was back there, sitting on her prison cot as the truth of it all crashed down around her.Ā  She wasnā€™t enough.Ā  She wasnā€™t worth fighting for.
And when she was later forced to give up her sonā€¦.it was a wonder she even survived the agony of it.
Sheā€™d worked hard to put him, put the whole situation, from her mind, to learn from her mistakes and come back stronger and wiser.Ā  Sheā€™d built a fortress around her heart.
But then Henry had found her and brought her home, and for a short time things had been, if not good, as close to good as sheā€™d gotten in a long time.
It all crashed down on her again when she found Neal in New York and came to realize just how entwined her story and Nealā€™s had been, just how deep his betrayal had been.
The moment sheā€™d seen him, all the pain, all the misplaced hope, all the love of an unloved teenager for the one person whoā€™d briefly treated her like she was worth a damn came rushing back and it was too much. Way too much.
Emma wished she had Hookā€™s flask.Ā  She needed the burning, numbing power of his rum to dull this ache.
For the briefest glimmer of time, Emma had thought maybe there could be a way to make peace with the past, to forgive Neal and move forward, and then heā€™d left her again.Ā  Heā€™d died, and yes, sheā€™d felt grief, but, God help her, sheā€™d also felt relief.Ā  Relief that it was over.Ā  That he couldnā€™t disrupt her life again.
And then Henry had been taken from her, and she was once again alone.Ā  Sheā€™d returned to Neverland, found Nealā€™s cave, found his mapā€¦and then discovered it was useless with him dead.
Damn him!Ā  Damn Neal, and Pan and Neverland and this whole situation!Ā  She couldnā€™t take much more.Ā  If they didnā€™t find Henry, if he was too far gone once they found himā€¦.
Emma took a deep breath, holding back the tears through sheer strength of will.Ā  If she started to cry, sheā€™d never stop.In the distance, she heard the murmur of her parentsā€™ voices, Hook and Regina bickering in Baeā€™s cave, and a spark of renewed hope struck in her.Ā  No matter how much she might feel it, she wasnā€™t alone.Ā  Not anymore.Ā  She had parents and friends and even the tentative cooperation of the Dark One.Ā  There would be time to process all the emotions later.Ā  For now, it was time to fight.Ā  She would get her son back or die trying!
NEXT CHAPTER->
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vasfasan Ā· 1 year ago
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Ok maybe I agree that portraying that "Rumple injured himself to avoid dying on the battlefield of war (you know what girl? i wouldve done the exact same thing, im not dying for my horrible ass fucking country.... but thats off topic) and that makes him a coward" was bad and I also get that baiting him into a duel with an able-bodied experienced swordsman was kinda shitty on Killian's part. But people can't deny that Rumple is still a coward lmao??? There's ample of other instances of that in the show. Ex: 3x04 Nasty Habits.
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wicked-storybrooke Ā· 2 years ago
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princess-aziza Ā· 3 years ago
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Archie could make a fortune as Rumplestiltskin and Baelfire/Nealā€™s family counselor alone
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intothewickedwood Ā· 5 years ago
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Once Upon A Time Rewatch: 3x04 Nasty Habits
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Istg the lost boys are a cult and Felix is super brainwashed by its leader. His loyalty seems to know know bounds and he speaks so highly of Pan. Come to think of it, maybe he loves him.
ā€œYou may have grown up, Baelfire. But it would appear you have grown up stupid.ā€ Lol!
Rumple be my mum. I feel ya Baelfire. Some parents be like that, not letting you out on your own however old you are. Ā 
Why did Rumple mark his face? Ā 
Hmm. I wonder who left Neverland first, Hook or Bae? I suppose it must have been Hook, considering that he was frozen for idk, 18 years when Emma met Neal and I donā€™t think Neal was (18+14) 32 years old at that point. But then, how does Hook know Bae supposedly left Neverland without Panā€™s permission if he left first?
I guess thatā€™s why Rumple has to be separated from the rest of the group. It would have been too easy to get to Henry. He could have just put a sleeping spell on all the lost boys. But then, I suppose heā€™d have to go through Pan and Iā€™m not quite sure which one is more powerful. I would assume Rumple is but Iā€™m not entirely sure.
Rumple reunited with his Bae! He must be so relieved that heā€™s alright!
Did Rumple kill a king to get that crown? Or maybe he just made a deal with one. Ā 
I absolutely love that Pan is also the pied piper! It fits so well and it makes him all the more creepy.
Even Rumple believes Pan is so powerful that youā€™d have to die to beat him. Perhaps Pan is more powerful than Rumple.
Also, why is Rumple so sure that he will die if he faces Pan. Is there some sort of magic between them that ensures that if Peter dies, Rumple must too? Did I miss something?
Did they get the idea of using giant squids from Harry Potter? Also, I think Iā€™ve mentioned it before but giant squids really do exist! I donā€™t know if they produce magic ink though.
That poor squid cane to have a good time but theyā€™re honestly feeling so attacked right now.
Iā€™m guessing Baelfire lived away from the lost boys in that cave, at least for part of the time he was there. Or maybe he just slept there? Itā€™s hard to know how much time he spent with the lost boys, especially considering he really didnā€™t want to be there.
How does Hook know that that was Baelfireā€™s home? I guess he must have crossed paths with Bae again even after he surrendered him to Pan.
Thatā€™s a lot of boys who feel lost being lured by Panā€™s music. I wonder why so many of them feel that way.
Woah theyā€™re doing flips and everything!
Canā€™t he tell which oneā€™s Bae by the length and colour of his hair?
I wonder what made Panā€™s eye red here. Did one of the boys flip and inadvertently kick Pan in the face coz that would be hilarious. New headcanon! Also, it was Bae that did it.
So children can still visit Neverland in there dreams. That is such an interesting realm, fuled by imagination. I wonder if thereā€™s any other realms like that.
I just had a thought. The season 7 cast but in Neverland! I would kill to see that! Poor Alice would feel like such a lost girl, having been alone for so long.
Why does he only want boys?
Panā€™s really getting a kick out of taunting Rumple. Why be so needlessly cruel. Isnā€™t abandoning him enough?
How does Pan know about Milah? How does he know of so many things that have happened outside of Neverland? Is it his spies telling him? But he doesnā€™t even have any lost boys at this point. I guess he could just have grown people watching Rumple.
That sleeping spell Rumple can use would have been so useful when they faced the lost boys. But again, too easy. Itā€™s hard to write for characters with powers. For the book Iā€™m working on I have to be very conscious of each characters abilities and I have to think of loopholes all the time. Must be really difficult to write for Rumple.
Bae to Rumple: ā€œI would have chosen to come home. I would have chosen you!ā€ My Papa Rumple heart!
Rumple to Bae: ā€œYouā€™re my happy ending.ā€ Damnit it! I love this father-son relationship so much!
Emma: ā€œAll that time thinking that he didnā€™t love me, only to find out that he did, and it was too late. I canā€™t even tell him how angry that makes me, or how much it hurt when he left, or how terrified I was when he came back, becauseā€¦ I knew the moment I saw him, I neverā€¦ I never stopped loving him.ā€ Swanfire feels!
Peter: ā€œYou got him, I got him back. Itā€™s the game.ā€ Lol. My mum and I are also doing a rewatch and when we watched this ep we made up a whole load of scenarios where Pan just responds with ā€œItā€™s the game!ā€ It was a fun game!
Iā€™m inclined to believe Pan. I think he allowed Baelfire to leave. I also think it was the same with Alice and the tower. I think she was only able to leave because Gothel allowed it to be so. Perhaps, something to do with Aliceā€™s Guardianship. She might have thought that at that point it would be a crueller punishment to allow Alice to see her Papa with the knowledge that she could never be near him. Just a headcanon.
Does shadow!Belle only appear when Rumple looks at the doll?
Henry: ā€œWait. Iā€¦ I remember something. My dadā€¦ When I was asleep, Iā€¦ I couldā€™ve sworn I heard him calling for me.ā€ Pan: ā€œReally?ā€ Henry: ā€œIt mustā€™ve been a dream.ā€ Pan: ā€œWell, how can you be sure?ā€ Such mind games.
Pan: ā€œYouā€™ll find new things to dream about. And when you do, theyā€™ll start to come true.ā€ Thatā€™s so cool how dreams can supposedly come true on Neverland.
Pan told Rumple that the only magic that that pipe has is that only people who feel lost can hear it. But it seems to me that it puts them in some sort of trance. The way the sound is distorted and what we see is blurred suggests that that pipe has more properties than Pan cares to share.
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allaboutjmo Ā· 3 years ago
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šŸ¦¢ Jen as Emma Swan on Once Upon A Time episode 3x04 ā€˜Nasty Habitsā€™
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onceuponanothertime-rp Ā· 3 years ago
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EPISODE CHANGE: 3X04 - NASTY HABITS
Hey everyone!
Just a reminder that our plot has now moved forwards to the next episode: 3x04: Nasty Habits. All answers, paragraphs and interactions should take place either during that episode, or between that episode and the next.
Our next episode change will be to 3x05Ā on Sunday, May 23rd at 11:59 PST.
If you have any questions, please donā€™t hesitate to ask!
-Mod Kenzie
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stahlop Ā· 4 years ago
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Once Upon a Time 3x04Ā ā€œNasty Habitsā€ Review
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So Neal still has major trust issues when it comes to his father. Emma still has ā€˜feelingsā€™ for Neal that she never got resolve because of his death (more on that in Emmaā€™s section), and Tink (yes, she told Emma to call her this so that is what Iā€™ll be using from now on) pretty much has decided theyā€™re on a suicide misson. And Davidā€™s still being a selfish ass.
Summary: Gold and Neal rescue Henry by making everyone, including Henry fall asleep, and Neal reveals his deep seated trust issues with his father are still alive and well. Hook takes everyone to Baeā€™s cave for clues on how he escaped, and in the Enchanted Forest, we discover that Peter Pan and the Pied Piper of Hamelin are the same person.
Opening: Lost Boy dancing
Character Observations:
Rumplestiltskin/Gold: Rumple is essentially holding Bae hostage by being the Dark One. No one wants to play with him because theyā€™re afraid of Rumple. And this whole scene is obviously supposed to take place before Bae went through the portal in The Return, but that was filmed almost two years ago and the actor playing Bae went from 13 to 15 and looks it. Anyway, Rumple just wants Bae to be happy, but Bae wonā€™t be happy trapped in their hovel. Rumple offers to build him a castle (maybe this is why he knew to look for a castle in The Heart of the Truest Believer?), but Bae just wants to have friends. Bae thinks Rumple doesnā€™t trust him, but Rumple is quick to tell him he does trust him, itā€™s his enemies he doesnā€™t trust. And this is the theme of Rumple and Goldā€™s arc. Trust. Bae thinks Rumple thinks he wonā€™t come back, and you can see by the look on his face that the thought has occurred to him, but he insists itā€™s Baeā€™s safety that heā€™s worried about. He doesnā€™t know what heā€™d do if he lost Bae. Rumple comes home later with a crown (because of the castle heā€™s going to have them live in), and Bae is gone. He looks shaken when he realizes Bae isnā€™t there. He traces Bae to the city of Hamelin, first accusing them of taking Bae, but then realizing that boys have gone missing. The man in town exposits how only some boys heard music and their parents didnā€™t believe them when they told them about it. Rumple is going to take this piper down! Rumpleā€™s just hanging out on a rooftop when he hears the music and starts seeing teenaged boys climbing out their windows. Rumple follows them and sees a whole group of boys dancing around a fire wearing masks. He confronts the piper who turns out to be Peter Pan. And Rumple looks scared the second Pan takes off his hood and calls him ā€˜laddieā€™. Pan does nothing but berate Rumple. We get hints to their relationship as Pan makes reference to Rumple being all grown up. He also tells Rumple the reason he can hear the pipe is because only boys who are lonely and lost can hear it. Pan goes on about Rumple being abandoned and heā€™s really cruel about it and you can see how upset Rumple is getting and itā€™s really weird to see him so vulnerable. Pan wants to make a deal for Bae. If presented with the choice, Bae chooses if heā€™ll go home or go with Pan. Rumple refuses to make the deal. I know weā€™re supposed to think itā€™s because he doesnā€™t trust Bae (and Bae tells him this later on), but come on. What kind of parent would make that kind of a deal? You donā€™t bargain with your childā€™s kidnapper! Rumple doesnā€™t take the deal. He eventually does find Bae in the circle of dancing boys, and it almost looks like heā€™s going to give Bae the choice that he and Pan had talked about, but instead, he poofs them back to their hovel. Bae is pissed, and accuses Rumple of abusing him with his power. But no, turns out Rumpleā€™s known Pan since he was a boy and they were incredibly close. He wasnā€™t immortal until he went to Neverland. But he ended up betraying Rumple so he canā€™t be trusted. So who is Pan to Rumple? Friend, brother, another relation? He insinuates that Pan is darker than he is. But Bae doesnā€™t think anyone could be worse than him. Rumple tells him he had no choice and he had to protect him, but Pan told Bae about the deal heā€™d offered him (of course he did), so Bae knows Rumple could have let Bae make his own choice. And this whole thing just goes to show that teenage boys are the same whether theyā€™re in our realm or the Enchanted Forest. They donā€™t understand that sometimes what their parents do to protect them is not what they wanted them to do. Rumple took Bae out of a bad situation that he knew more about than Bae. But all Bae sees is his father not trusting him to make the right decision, so he leaves. Rumple looks devastated. Iā€™m going to assume itā€™s not too long after this that Bae gets the bean to go to the Land Without Magic.
Gold is getting ready to go to war, complete with war paint. Imaginary Belle tells him he was always more comfortable behind a mask and she was the only one who saw past it. And then they go through this whole thing where he needs to be the monster to save Henry and Belle doesnā€™t want him to lose himself because of the prophecy. That he has a nasty habit of self-preservation (I wouldnā€™t call that a nasty habit. Who wants to die?), but since Neal died, Gold has nothing left to live for, not even Belle. He says sheā€™ll eventually see the monster, despite that she always says she sees the man behind the monster. So is he saying there is no man behind the monster? Or that heā€™s just going back to being the monster without any chance of being the man again? Whatever it is, heā€™s convinced itā€™s the only way for him to save Henry. He goes to Panā€™s camp and doses some of the Lost Boys with poppy powder? Heā€™s certainly not using his magic here. Maybe itā€™s so Pan canā€™t detect him? He grabs one of their spears and thatā€™s when a very much alive Neal comes crashing out from the woods. Since Gold believes Neal to be dead, he thinks Neal is a figment of his imagination to remind him of how he failed as a father. But heā€™ll sacrifice himself for Henry. Heā€™s about to kill him when Neal calls him Papa, and Gold finally realizes that it is truly Neal. Gold tells him that no one in their group has the stomach for what needs to be done to rescue Henry (and Iā€™d say Regina does, considering sheā€™s almost sacrificed herself several times for Henry just to be saved at the last minute), and that Neal doesnā€™t have the stomach either. Neal thinks they can do this without hurting or killing anyone, but Gold doesnā€™t agree with him. Gold tells Neal that Pan is too powerful and the only way to beat him is if youā€™re willing to die. Neal tells him thereā€™s another way. Gold ponders this as if he never considered there could be another way. Especially since this other way is apparently using squid ink, something Gold has experience in using and has had used against him. Gold uses some sort of sleeping spell to take down everyone in Panā€™s camp, including Henry, although it doesnā€™t work on Pan. They confront each other and Pan reveals he knows Bae is with him. Neal shoots at Pan, who once again catches the arrow before it hits him, but Neal coated the shaft and not the tip. Gold and Neal grab Henry once Pan is frozen. Pan tells Neal about the prophecy and how Gold is there to kill Henry, but they need to get out of the camp and away from Pan, so they leave. Neal is understandably upset about this, but Gold reminds him that Pan lies. Neal eventually gets him to tell him about the prophecy. Neal is convinced that Gold is going to try and kill Henry to subvert the prophecy, despite the fact that Gold said he was willing to die for Henry when he thought Neal wasnā€™t real. Gold tries to get Neal to trust that heā€™s willing to die for Henry, but Neal doesnā€™t think he can believe him. Neal says the only way he can trust Gold is if he gives him the dagger. Unfortunately, Gold gave it to his shadow in Lost Girl and canā€™t give it to Neal to prove his trustworthiness. Neal understands that at this moment, Gold will do anything to save Henry, but he also knows that once heā€™s back in Storybrooke and happy with Belle, he may not have that same notion, and will want to live out his happy ending rather than be ā€˜undoneā€™ by Henry. Gold insists that Neal is his happy ending and that saving Henry is his redemption. He just needs Neal to have faith in him. Neal basically tells him he can never believe him since he left him behind all those years ago (which brings Gold on the verge of tears), and then doses him with the squid ink so he canā€™t follow him. Gold is terrified for Neal. He knows Pan will find him without his protection, but Neal tells him he has no choice. I mean, Neal did live a lot of years on Neverland, itā€™s not like he doesnā€™t know his way around and how to hide from Pan. But Gold just sees his son leaving him again and knowing that heā€™s failed to protect him. The squid ink wears off and Gold is alone with his thoughts (Belle), who talks him through whether heā€™s willing to die for Henry now that Neal is alive. She tells him habits can be broken and he tells her to go away. He doesnā€™t want to hear what she has to say. And now heā€™s really all alone.
Bae/Neal: Bae is lonely. He has no friends and his father wonā€™t let him leave the house because heā€™s afraid his enemies would use Bae against him. So what does he do? He gets lured out of the hovel by Pan when he plays a song for lonely and lost boys. And then he gets mad at his father when Rumple poofs them back home because he wanted to make the choice for himself. And, Iā€™m sorry, I get that Bae is a teenager at this point (heā€™d be 14 since Rumple is the Dark One and he was still 14 when he went through the portal), and teenagerā€™s think everything is about them, but this has nothing to do with Rumple trusting Bae to make the right decision. I get that Bae wants the freedom to live his life (as most teenagers do), but running away and then hoping your parent lets you make the right decision as to whether you stay with your potential kidnapper or go home with your parent is not about trust. Itā€™s about good parenting. So suck it up Bae. Papa made the right decision to take you out of there.
Neal, on the other hand, still doesnā€™t trust his father. And this is more because of his father choosing his power over him. Neal is captured by Felix who calls him stupid for coming back, but Neal manages to until the knot that Felix had tied his hand up in and punches him out. He literally runs into his father attempting to rescue Henry, and Gold almost kills him because he doesnā€™t think Neal is real (which makes sense since he was told that Neal died). Neal is surprised to see his father since he only saw Emma in the crystal ball, or maybe because he doesnā€™t expect his father to care about his son. Either way, for someone who spent lots of time in Neverland, he seems to think it really weird that Gold doesnā€™t believe heā€™s real (isnā€™t the whole point of Neverland to use your imagination). It isnā€™t until he calls him Papa that Gold finally believes itā€™s him. Neal doesnā€™t even get into how he survived when Gold asks, just that Robin Hoodā€™s debt is paid. Neal wants to know where Emma is, but Gold informs him that he left them all on Hookā€™s ship. Neal doesnā€™t seem too happy about Goldā€™s intentions of needing to kill Lost Boys and Pan to get Henry. Gold tells him he doesnā€™t have the stomach to do what needs to be done to save Henry, but Neal tells him heā€™ll do what he needs to do. To be honest, Neal really needs to think about killing Pan, because he knows what heā€™s capable of and he knows that Pan could get to Henry once they get him off Neverland. So the whole not killing Pan route doesn't seem like the smartest course of action on Nealā€™s part. Anyway, Gold tells Neal that the only way to beat Pan is to be willing to die, but Neal knows of another way. He calls on a giant squid so that Gold can extract the squid ink. So, Neal is smart enough to coat the shaft of the arrow in squid ink, knowing that Pan will catch it and it will immobilize him, but, unfortunately, squid ink does not immobilize the mouth. Instead of Neal and Gold taking Henry and just fleeing, they listen to Pan spout off about the prophecy that Pan insists means Gold is there to kill Henry. Gold takes them to the other side of the island where Neal is freaking out, but Gold placates him enough to make him think that Pan is playing games. I mean, that is a hard decision to make, believe Pan or the father you have a bad relationship with. Neal attempts to wake up Henry but canā€™t because of the spell, so he gets back into it with Gold. Eventually, Gold tells him about the prophecy, and how he was planning on killing the boy until he found out it was his own grandson. Neal does not take kindly to this information. Gold is begging Neal to believe him, to let him help, that he would give up his life for Henry, but Neal has a hard time believing this. Neal wants the dagger from Gold to prove that he trusts him, but Gold doesnā€™t have it. Neal finds this too convenient and feels his father has an excuse for everything. Neal finally tells him why he doesnā€™t trust him. Because today heā€™ll do the right thing, but once heā€™s settled into a happy life with Belle, heā€™ll decide that he wants to stay happy, and Henry will be in the way of that. Gold tries to convince Neal that he is his happy ending, but Neal tells him he left his own son for the dagger, how could he think it would be any different. The whole time heā€™s been holding Goldā€™s hands and he has actually dosed him with squid ink. He takes Henry and leaves a heartbroken Gold behind. Neal finds the remnants of a campsite and assumes itā€™s Emma, but Pan and the Lost Boys are lying in wait. They grab Henry, and Neal swears heā€™ll get Henry back, but Pan says if heā€™d only stayed with his father Henry wouldā€™ve probably been safe. Pan also mocks Neal for not having an exit plan, especially since no one leaves the island without his permission. Neal is pretty sure he can escape since he did it before. But Pan tells him he wouldnā€™t be too sure of that, since heā€™s back on the island like he never left (um, heā€™s an adult now, so thatā€™s a lot different than the last time he was there). Neal starts to realize that Pan may have let him go and Pan says everyone is right where he wants them. Henry finally starts to come around, and Neal yells out for him as the Lost Boys take him somewhere on Panā€™s bidding.
Emma: Tink basically tells them that without an exit plan sheā€™s not helping them. Emma tells the group sheā€™s right, Neal taught her to never break in somewhere without a way out (and as we learn later, he learned that from Pan). Hook lets them know that Neal is the only one whoā€™s left the island without permission and takes them to the cave Neal lived in when he was on the island. Emma is in shock at all the whole thing. Hook wonders if she notices any clues, but sheā€™s just impressed by the drawings. Hook tells her Bae got it from his mother and it gets a little awkward. Emma lights a coconut candle and starts looking for more clues. She realizes that Hook cared for Bae with the way he talks about him, and things get a little uncomfortable between them again. Emma deems them just a bunch of pictures. Emma figures out that her coconut candle actually has a top on it that makes a star map. They think thatā€™s the way he got off the island. Emma gets upset when Hook canā€™t read the star map because he thinks itā€™s in code. She runs out of the cave and Mary Margaret and David try to talk to her, but sheā€™s trying to keep her emotions in check. She tells them sheā€™s not sad about him dying, sheā€™s pissed off because she thought he didnā€™t love her when he left her, but he really did. And she canā€™t tell him how angry it makes her that she canā€™t do anything about all her feelings now, because heā€™s dead. She tells Mary Margaret and David that she knew she still loved him when he came back into their lives. And hereā€™s where I have to say something about Emmaā€™s reaction. I know a lot of fans who wanted her back with Neal use this as the reason why. Emma obviously loves him and he loves her and Nealā€™s apologized for what he did and they love each other and blah, blah, blah. But hereā€™s the thing. Neal was just engaged to Tamara a few days ago. Heā€™d moved on, content that Emma had broken the curse and was living her happily ever after while he was too much of a chicken shit to confront his father. Emma may still love Neal (lord knows why), but itā€™s the love that she had for him when she was 17. Itā€™s that first love that stays with you and that you look back on with rose colored glasses no matter what really happened. Emma doesnā€™t know Neal now. Sheā€™s barely spent any time with him. And Neal doesnā€™t know Emma now. And all weā€™ve seen is his condescension towards her. Are we really going to believe that the strong woman Emma has become now, the one who doesnā€™t put up with Regina or Gold, the woman who slayed a dragon, the woman who confronted a giant, and who now has magic, would put up with the man who let her take the fall for his crimes and go to jail, forcing her to give up her child in the process? Emma may still love Neal, but sheā€™s not in love with him. And yes, sheā€™s upset, but sheā€™s just seen that he was as lost as she was as a child (if not more), and I think sheā€™s finally realized that heā€™s gone and not coming back (just wait a few days, the island is not that big), and thatā€™s where the emotions are coming from.
Mary Margaret/David: I know, Iā€™ve put them together all season, but they donā€™t really do anything away from each other. Emma has put a plan into motion but when Tink finds out there is no exit plan, she basically tells them itā€™s suicide to enact it. David pulls out the whole ā€˜we find each otherā€™ line, but Tink is not going to help them until thereā€™s something a little more concrete. She peaces out and David is about to go after her, but Emma tells them that Tink is right. They need an exit plan. David asks Hook how he got off, but heā€™s vague and just says Pan probably wonā€™t repeat the deal they made. Hook brings them to a cave and David volunteers to help open the door with Hook. Hook tells him he doesnā€™t look so hot, meaning he can see the Dreamshade affecting him, but David just quips that itā€™s a million degrees in the jungle and heā€™s plenty hot. Hook wonders how much longer heā€™ll keep up the charade of hiding his sickness from his family. David wants to know why Hook cares so much, and Hook wants to know why David doesnā€™t seem to care. David feels that he doesnā€™t want to burden them while theyā€™re looking for Henry, especially when thereā€™s no hope for a cure. Hook tells him that heroes always believe in hope. David wonders if Hook is keeping something from him, but Hook insists that hope and reality are two different things. He repeats that David will never make it off the island alive. David is resigned to his fate once again. Inside the cave Emma realizes Neal lived there and Mary Margaret is hopeful that Neal left some sort of clue as to how he escaped. They find the star map and realize that the only person who can read it is Neal. Mary Margaret and David follow out an upset Emma. After Emma tells them about her sadness and anger, and then leaves, Mary Margaret gets upset because she doesnā€™t know how to comfort her daughter. Thatā€™s the first thing a mother learns and she missed it. David understands and feels the same way. Mary Margaret tells David she wouldnā€™t know how to move on if David were to die before her. David insists that she would move on and be happy without him. Mary Margaret is thankful that nothing will happen to him then. David looks extremely guilty.
Pan: In the past, he has become the Pied Piper to lure unloved and lost boys to him (and saying that to Rumple gives him the idea to name his band of boys the Lost Boys). He has a panpipe that only lost boys can hear. Rumple confronts him after Bae runs away.Ā  Pan is luring boys to Neverland while theyā€™re awake so he will have friends there (sounds like heā€™s lonely too). Theyā€™ve only been able to come to Neverland in their dreams previously. Pan is a complete ass to Rumple. He makes fun of him for having been abandoned as a boy, mocks him for his wife running off, and now his biggest fear has happened, his son has left him. Rumple doesnā€™t think thatā€™s true, so Pan wants him to test that out. Give Bae the choice to stay or leave and see what he chooses. Rumple refuses to take the deal. And man, who pissed in Panā€™s Cheerios because he obviously has some pent up anger issues when it comes to Rumple. Heā€™s just so angry and he seems to derive some sick pleasure out of tormenting Rumple and seeing him close to tears. Heā€™s like an abuser of some sort, and I get the feeling that he was a bully or abuser to Rumple as a child and thatā€™s why Rumple has reverted back to how he was before becoming the Dark One. Pan again mocks Rumple, telling him he doesnā€™t recognize Bae dancing around because heā€™s actually happy. Pan goads Rumple into making the deal with Bae, but he doesnā€™t, and Pan says heā€™s going to regret it.
Currently, in Neverland, Pan is trying to get Henry to believe heā€™s brought him there to save magic. The Lost Boys are dancing and celebrating because of it. Pan tries to get Henry to go out and dance by playing his panpipe, but Henry doesnā€™t hear it! This confuses Pan greatly. All Henryā€™s been saying is how his family is coming for him. He is there because he has the heart of the truest believer. Why would Pan think he feel unloved and lost? Heā€™s about to explain to Henry why he should be hearing it, but Felix comes to tell him that Neal escaped. At first heā€™s angry, but once he realizes Neal and his father have been reunited, he feels this is perfect for his game. Rumple uses a sleeping spell to make all the Lost Boys and Henry fall asleep. He, again, mocks Rumple, now, for coming to save his family, and speaking of family, reveals Neal is with him. He canā€™t resist getting in another dig about Rumple abandoning Bae, and then Neal shoots an arrow at Pan. He catches it and basically calls Neal an idiot for not remembering how powerful Pan is, but Neal catches him off guard when he reveals he didnā€™t coat the tip in squid ink. Pan is impressed, but he makes sure to let Neal know about the prophecy and his fatherā€™s intention to kill Henry before they leave. Pan ruins Nealā€™s plans for finding Emma and the rest of the group, and also tells him sticking with his father wouldā€™ve been the smart thing to do. He reminds Neal that there is no escaping Neverland and a very smarmy Neal, tells him he did it once, but Pan tells Neal that heā€™s right back where he escaped from, and basically insinuates that he let him escape because everyone is right where he wants them to be (that sounds a lot like Rumple getting captured before the curse and being exactly where he was meant to be). They take Henry back and take Neal somewhere, not sure where yet,the Lost Boys they know where to take him. Back at camp, the Lost Boys are dancing around the fire again, and Henry finally wakes up. Henry remembers his father calling for him, but gets upset when he realizes it was just a dream since Neal is dead. Apparently, thatā€™s enough for him to feel unloved and lost, because now he can hear the panpipes and dances with the other boys. Honestly, Iā€™d like to believe that Henry joins in because he has no friends and this is the closest heā€™s going to get to having them.
Hook: He is very sensitive in this episode. Heā€™s very upset that David is keeping the fact that he was scratched by the Dreamshade from his family. He looks very upset when David asks him if heā€™s been keeping a cure from him. Hook is very deliberate in his wording when he says David wonā€™t make it off the island alive. You can see his jaw twitch when he says it. He brings the gang to Nealā€™s cave and you can see that he regrets the actions that led to Bae living on Neverland. It does seem that Bae and Hook had some sort of relationship after what we saw in And Straight on Til Morning. Otherwise, how would Hook know where Bae lived. Unless he was just watching him from afar. After they discover the star map, Hook toots his own horn by telling them how he taught Bae to navigate by the stars, but he also taught him the importance of secrecy, so he canā€™t read the map. And while this is upsetting to Emma, Hook seems to have some fatherly pride in Neal using what he taught him.
Questions:
What happened to Greg after the shadow was ripped from his body that there wasnā€™t much left of him? Did the Lost Boys tear him to pieces or are there wild animals we havenā€™t seen yet?
Did Bae live in the cave before becoming a Lost Boy? Was he a Lost Boy first and then ran away to live in his cave? Was he always at odds with Pan? If so, why was he ever considered a Lost Boy if he didnā€™t blindly follow Pan? Why does Hook know where Bae lived when Bae wanted nothing to do with him?
Was Neal always planning on using squid ink to immobilize Pan? How was this possible if he needed Gold to get the ink out for him?
Does anyone else think itā€™s weird that itā€™s only teenagers that Panā€™s music seems to affect (with the exception of Henry at the end)? Isnā€™t the whole point of Neverland not to grow up? Isnā€™t a teenager pretty close to being a grown up?
How does Pan know about Milah?
Did Mary Margaret really suggest the coconut with holes in it was a colander? Come on! Mary Margaret lived in the forest and she couldnā€™t think of a better reason why he might have a cup-like object with tiny holes in it?
Did Bae recognize Pan from this adventure? Did he know about Pan wanting to take them to Neverland? Is that why he was so insistent about Wendy not going with the shadow?
How does Bae know that Belle is back in Goldā€™s life? Wasnā€™t Belle still Lacey the last time he saw her?
Why is Henry still asleep and all the Lost Boys are awake when heā€™s recaptured?Ā 
Observations:
Itā€™s nice that Emmaā€™s false eyelashes have stayed on throughout their Neverland adventures.
Reginaā€™s expression when Tink tells her that nothing much was left of Greg was amazing.
Hey look, Neal actually took off his coat because itā€™s hot in the jungle!
Rumple calls Hamelin a rathole of a town, which is funny because the story of the Pied Piper is that he gets all the rats out of town with his music.
Blowing into a giant shell is how you call a giant squid from the bottom of a bottomless ocean (as Gold told Henry thatā€™s where they live in Into the Deep).
Drawings that I noticed in Baeā€™s cave: P & S for Port and Starboard like Hook showed him on his ship, sea turtle, the Darling Family, possible hands in a portal (his and his fatherā€™s letting go of him?), the Darling house (and two stars above), Hookā€™s hook, a boot squashing a snail, a hand holding a writing utensil.
Pan is playing a Pan Pipe, which is named for Pan who is the god of the wild, shepherds and flocks, nature of mountain wilds, and rustic music. He has the hindquarters, legs, and horns of a goat, in the same manner as a faun or satyr. The literary character of Peter Pan is also named for Pan.
Pan calls Rumple laddie, which makes sense if he knew Pan as a child, but not as much if they were children together. Laddie is usually something a grown up calls a child, not what children call each other.
Still no mention of Rumplestiltskinā€™s mother.
Pan taught Neal about never breaking into a place without having an exit plan strategy.
So, I really hate Pan. Heā€™s a bully, and an asshole. While Rumplestiltskin is evil and dark, he at least had a goal, to get his son back. Pan just seems to derive pleasure from torturing Rumple. Why that is hasnā€™t been revealed yet, but Rumple has decided that he doesnā€™t want Belle, his voice of reason, hanging around anymore because of Panā€™s antics. Henry apparently feels lost since ā€˜dreamingā€™ about his father, despite the fact that he was pretty confident about his family coming to rescue him at just the beginning of the episode. David is getting worse, Mary Margaret would die without David, and Emma has finally realized Neal is really dead.
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dinneratgrannys Ā· 2 years ago
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ONCE UPON A TIME 3.04, Nasty Habits
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OUAT Rewatch 3x04 - Nasty Habits
I would have chosen to come home. I would have chosen you. If only you asked. Maybe we could have found a way to be a family again.
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laschatzi Ā· 7 years ago
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OUAT rewatch: 3x04Ā ā€œNasty Habitsā€
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My daughter is always such a sucker for the touching scenes, the reunions of long lost loved ones... so she loved Rumple meeting Neal, of course. She also loved that they both were working together to free Henry, and yay for Neal outwitting Pan, the little brat was SO offended that someone did!
When Neal mistrusted his Papa, my kid understood why, even if she was like,Ā ā€œnooo donā€™t listen to Pan, oh man, your dad isnā€™t lying!!ā€ That stupid prophecy though... and thinking that it never became true?! Oh well, one plot hole of many.
And sheā€™s so worried for David, every time he takes a secret look at his wound and the blackened veins spread more and more, she needs reassurance from me:Ā ā€œTell me heā€™s not gonna die? Or is he? No, right? Right??ā€
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Season 5 is the only season where this pattern didnā€™t hold.
Season 6 (ā€Strange Caseā€):
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Season 7 (ā€Beautyā€):
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Has anyone else noticed that every fourth episode of each season is kind of based on Rumple, Rumple-themed?
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100 Days of Rumplestiltskin - Day 56
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intothewickedwood Ā· 2 years ago
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Once Upon A Time Rewatch: Links to My Recaps
So, I finished 3 year long rewatch of ouat & ouatiw a few weeks ago and I thought Iā€™d post links to my live reaction posts of each episode. If anyoneā€™s interested in anything specific you can find it here. Itā€™s also just to have them all in one place. I would love to see your comments about the episodes or in regards to any questions I raised, or anything really if you would like to add anything! Iā€™d love to talk Ouat with you!
All Episodes Tag
Chronological Order | Last To First Order
Season One
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1x01Ā Pilot |Ā 1x02 The Thing You Love Most | 1x03 Snow Falls | 1x04 The Price of GoldĀ | 1x05 That Still Small Voice | 1x06 The Shepherd | 1x07 The Heart is a Lonely Hunter | 1x08 Desperate Souls | 1x09 True North | 1x10 7:15 A.M. | 1x11 Fruit of the Poisonous Tree | 1x12 Skin Deep | 1x13 What Happened to Frederick | 1x14 Dreamy | 1x15 Red-Handed | 1x16 Heart of Darkness | 1x17 Hat Trick | 1x18 The Stable Boy | 1x19 The Return | 1x20 The Stranger | 1x21 An Apple Red as Blood | 1x22 A Land Without Magic
Season Two
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2x01 Broken | 2x02 We Are Both | 2x03 Lady of the Lake | 2x04 The Crocodile | 2x05 The Doctor | 2x06 Tallahassee | 2x07 Child of the Moon | 2x08 Into the Deep | 2x09 Queen of Hearts | 2x10 The Cricket Game | 2x11 The Outsider | 2x12 In the Name of the Brother | 2x13 Tiny | 2x14 Manhattan | 2x15 The Queen is Dead | 2x16 The Miller's Daughter | 2x17 Welcome to Storybrooke | 2x18 Selfless, Brave and True | 2x19 Lacey | 2x20 The Evil Queen | 2x21 Second Star to the Right | 2x22 And Straight on 'til Morning
Season Three
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3x01 The Heart of the Truest Believer | 3x02 Lost Girl | 3x03 Quite a Common Fairy | 3x04 Nasty Habits | 3x05 Good Form | 3x06 Ariel | 3x07 Dark Hollow | 3x08 Think Lovely Thoughts | 3x09 Save Henry | 3x10 The New Neverland | 3x11 Going Home | 3x12 New York City Serenade | 3x13 Witch Hunt | 3x14 The Tower | 3x15 Quiet Minds | 3x16 It's Not Easy Being Green | 3x17 The Jolly Roger | 3x18 Bleeding Through | 3x19 A Curious Thing | 3x20 Kansas | 3x21 Snow Drifts | 3x22 There's No Place Like Home
Season Four
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4x01 A Tale of Two Sisters | 4x02 White Out | 4x03 Rocky Road | 4x04 The Apprentice | 4x05 Breaking Glass | 4x06 Family Business | 4x07 The Snow Queen | 4x08 Smash the Mirror, Part 1 | 4x08Ā Smash the Mirror, Part 2 | 4x09 Fall | 4x10 Shattered Sight | 4x11 Heroes and VillainsĀ | 4x12 Darkness on the Edge of Town | 4x13 Unforgiven | 4x14 Enter the Dragon | 4x15 Poor Unfortunate Soul | 4x16 Best Laid Plans | 4x17 Heart of Gold | 4x18 Sympathy for the De Vil | 4x19 Lily | 4x20 Mother | 4x21 Operation Mongoose, Part 1 | 4x22 Operation Mongoose, PartĀ 2
Season Five
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5x01 The Dark Swan | 5x02 The Price | 5x03 Siege Perilous | 5x04 The Broken Kingdom | 5x05 Dreamcatcher | 5x06 The Bear and the Bow | 5x07 Nimue | 5x08 Birth | 5x09 The Bear King | 5x10 Broken Heart | 5x11 Swan Song | 5x12 Souls of the Departed | 5x13 Labor of Love | 5x14 Devil's Due | 5x15 The Brothers Jones | 5x16 Our Decay | 5x17 Her Handsome Hero | 5x18 Ruby Slippers | 5x19 Sisters | 5x20 Firebird | 5x21 Last Rites | 5x22 Only You | 5x23Ā  An Untold Story
Season Six
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6x01 The Savior | 6x02 Bitter Draught | 6x03 The Other Shoe | 6x04 Strange Case | 6x05 Street Rats | 6x06 Dark Waters | 6x07 Heartless | 6x08 I'll Be Your Mirror | 6x09 Changelings | 6x10 Wish You Were HereĀ | 6x11 Tougher Than the Rest | 6x12 Murder Most Foul | 6x13 Ill-Boding Patterns | 6x14 Page 23 | 6x15 A Wondrous Place | 6x16 Mother's Little Helper | 6x17 Awake | 6x18 Where Bluebirds Fly | 6x19 The Black Fairy | 6x20 The Song in Your Heart | 6x21 The Final Battle, Part 1 | 6x22 The Final Battle, Part 2
Season Seven
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7x01 Hyperion Heights | 7x02 A Pirate's Life | 7x03 The Garden of Forking Paths | 7x04 Beauty | 7x05 Greenbacks | 7x06 Wake Up Call | 7x07 Eloise Gardener | 7x08 Pretty in Blue | 7x09 One Little Tear | 7x10 The Eighth WitchĀ | 7x11 Secret Garden | 7x12 Taste of the Heights | 7x13 Knightfall | 7x14 The Girl in the Tower | 7x15 Sisterhood | 7x16 Breadcrumbs | 7x17 Chosen | 7x18 The Guardian | 7x19 Flower Child | 7x20 Is This Henry Mills? | 7x21 Homecoming | 7x22 Leaving Storybrooke
Once Upon A Time In Wonderland
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1x01 Down the Rabbit Hole | 1x02 Trust Me | 1x03 Forget Me Not | 1x04 The Serpent | 1x05 Heart of Stone | 1x06 Who's Alice | 1x07 Bad Blood | 1x08 Home | 1x09 Nothing to Fear | 1x10 Dirty Little Secrets | 1x11 Heart of the Matter | 1x12 To Catch a Thief | 1x13 And They Livedā€¦
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