#*Sonic voice* I do. All the time.
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Voice actors are NOT the same as actors.
It takes a specific kind of skill-set and training to be able to warp and meld the voice. It takes a certain kind of talent and dedication to hone that talent into the ability to meld the voice and invoke emotion with one's voice alone. Actors are used to using their voice secondarily to their body language and their facial expressions. It's all mirrored back on camera. They do have nuance. But it's a different kind of nuance and a different kind of training to produce that nuance.
Voice actors might get their likeness transposed on their character's design, and maybe their mannerisms might seep into the character's animation. But when it's all said and done: their presence is in their voice. They are bringing a character to life, showing that emotion in their voice, trying to keep a specific accent, drawl, pitch, tone in that voice and keep it consistent for their recording sessions.
The voice actor is like a classically trained musician who can play first chair in a competitive, world-renown orchestra. The actor (who fills the voice actor's role) is like a moot who played violin in beginner and intermediate high school orchestra and thinks they can get into Juilliard with that 2-4 years of experience.
This doesn't mean that the HS orchestra moot can't play. They can even be really good at it. Maybe they won competitions and sat first chair. But they are not in the same league as the person who's been training their whole lives and lives and breathes to hone their craft using the instrument and all of the training they've ever acquired to perfect it. They are not meant for the same roles. They are not in the same caliber. You do not hire the HS equivalent when you want to play complex music in a competitive orchestra.
Actors are not the same as voice actors.
And furthermore, actors - especially big name actors - taking the roles of animated characters for big budget films or TV pilots makes no sense anyways when - at least in the case of TV pilots - there's not a point to hiring a big budget actors anyways. That money could be used elsewhere (like paying your animators), and the talent that is brought onto the screen for X character could then be hired on to voice said character no recasting required.
I wouldn't say voice acting as a profession is in danger exactly, but it's certainly being disrespected and overlooked for celebrity clout, and this has ALWAYS been an issue. Shoot, even Robin Williams knew that much - which is why he tried so hard not to be used as a marketing chess piece for Aladdin and got royally pissed off when it happened anyways. People shouldn't go to any movie (but especially not animated films) because "oh famous actor is in it". People should go because it's a good movie and the voice acting is good.
People who honest to god think that voice actors are replaceable because "oh well anyone can voice act" or "I like xyz celebrity so naturally it'll be good" ... Honestly I just wish you'd reassess your priorities because you're missing the point and are part of the problem.
Voice Actors ≠ Actors.
#(i am incredibly passionate about this)#(and seeing celebrity voice actors in what should be a voice actor's role completely burns my buns it doesn't matter WHO it is)#(hemsworth as optimus? someone tell me one good reason why they couldn't get a good v/a to replace mr. cullen properly for the future)#(ben shwartz as sonic? dude literally isn't even a good voice actor OR actor anyways-)#(- A N D jason griffith AND my boy roger craig smith are still RIGHT HERE)#(jason griffith IN PARTICULAR would have pulled back SO many sonic fans that went to watch the film anyways. if not /more/.)#(and on top of that he has the same tonality and energy they tried to force this moshmo to try and emulate anyways so GET THE REAL THING)#(chris pratt as mario? i can at least defend /him/ and say that barring his failure to do a NY accent consistently he wasn't terrible)#(but mario's new voice actor could've been used instead and people would've clearly appreciated that WAY more)#(vanessa hudgens as sunny starscout in mlp g5's pilot movie? literally why. they replace her and hitch's va in the show.)#(don't even get me started on the concept of hiring celebrity singers to do musical theatre roles or not letting musical theatre singers-)#(-dub the celebrity voice actors you just HAD to hire for your film bc you're so worried about not getting enough clout to get ppl in seats#(that you're putting it all in this (1) big name hire bc turns out that you have no faith in your writing ability much less-)#(-animation as a medium.)#(and no before anyone says anything : no this is not me saying that ALL celebrity voice castings are bad.)#(there are some that aren't that bad and others that are actually pretty good.)#(i especially appreciate it when actors are damn well aware they aren't voice actors and try to LEARN from voice coaches-)#(-and/or their va predecessors if applicable.)#(that does not change the fact that the celebrity shouldn't have been hired just because the film wanted to have bragging clout-)#(-oh look at this FAMOUS PERSON we were able to hire — yeah ok. sure wendy. i want to know if this film is quality or not.)#(and 9/10 times the SECOND there is money spent on a non voice actor to voice the main character especially)#(that usually means somewhere along the way animation IS going to get shafted. if not w the animators themselves then in the way of-)#(-the actual animation itself and ESPECIALLY the screenwriting because it's especially been so dogshit lately even before the strike.)#(a celebrity being hired to fill a voice actor's role is such an immediate red flag to me and it is VERY rare that i get to be proven wrong
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See what I mean about their voice acting? They mimic each other's in-character vocal inflections perfectly.
#sonic boom#sonic the hedgehog#eggman#mike pollock#roger craig smith#gushing#i love freaky friday-styled episodes#gives the actors a chance to show their skill by playing each other#and generally speaking if they're really good actors they usuallly nail it#and mike and roger certainly nailed it#mike especially#eggman's voice isn't too different from the games#a little more comedic and whiny but mostly the same#so roger didn't have to compensate quite as much for the difference in character#(which is not to say that roger doesn't do an amazing eggman impression#he certainly nails the diabolical evil genius thing throughout the whole episode)#but boom sonic sounds different than any other sonic#he's pretty blase and 100% done with everything all the time#and mike even brings THAT into the voice#sheer genius
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I find it funny out of the Sonic characters we have met so far in the movies (four)
only one of them - Tails - has kept their current voice actor from the games.
#I mean - from a logical standpoint - it makes sense#either spend too much time casting a child only to have said child go through puberty and you have to do it all again#or get an adult#and I doubt there are a lot of big screen actors who are experienced enough to do a kid voice#sonic the hedgehog#sonic movie verse#sonic cinematic universe#sonic movie#sonic movie 2#sonic movie 3#movie tails#miles tails prower#knuckles the echidna#shadow the hedgehog#colleen o’shaughnessey
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watching a video about how ruthless 2010s youtube culture was to sonic and the point about the official twitter even getting in on the sonic hate reminded me of the time they got arin hansen (or one of the game grumps anyways) to write a song for the youtube channel about how much big the cat sucked
#truly a terrible time to be a big fan. dont mess with big fans… there are like five of us#i didnt hallucinate that tho right?? didnt that happen???#also ik ppl thought sonic twitter was funny but tbh even back then it rubbed me the wrong way#first of all bc the twitter users didnt actually make the game. they were meant to advertise them. so they were shitting on someone elses wo#work#but also because it felt so insecure and petty. like sometimes it was funny but it was constant#and if you had an issue with that or the general culture around sonic then you were a degenerate idiot who cant take a joke#bc ha ha this is just the stupid meme franchise! why do you care? its not like it was ever good to begin with!#echoed voice
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...Do you ever think about how Sonic truly is the only person who cares about Nine now?
#*Sonic voice* I do. All the time.#*Shakes Sega and Netflix until Sonic Prime falls out* Please please please you can't leave it like this for him#Nine's character arc isn't done. He's alone. The only person he likes/the only person he cares about is separated from him and everyone else#in all the shatterspaces hates him how is he going to cope with all this?#sonine#sonic the hedgehog#nine sonic prime#miles nine prower#nine the fox#sonic prime season 3#sonic prime spoilers#sonic prime s3#sonic prime season 3 spoilers#sonic prime s3 spoilers#i just be ramblin#I am begging for us to get an epilogue where intershatterspace travel is figured out again. I need Nine to have a chance to conclude his arc#I need for him to be able to see Sonic again#the fact that he's completely alone aside from any robots he builds and Sonic currently won't get to attain his dream of introducing Nine to#his friends and going on adventures with them all is so sad and bittersweet to me
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doctober day 8: outatime
some scenes i really like from chapter 5 of the game :)
#back to the future#bttf#erhardt brown#marty mcfly#emmett brown#doc brown#edna strickland#michael j fox#christopher lloyd#doctober 2023#doctober#my arts#my sketchy wip arts#chapter 5 is called 'outatime' thats why it counts B)#anyway idk why that part where they give each other a thumbs up is so wholesome to me ;w; it makes my heart so warm <3#also the video has been sitting in my head for weeks so this was a good excuse to post it 😏🤭#also also *meme voice* 'fck drawin the delorean. all my homies hate drawing the delorean'. dont look at it or else T_T#HOWEVER you know what i do love drawing? angry faces. 31 emmett my beloved#(and finally. the audio is from the snapcube real time sonic fandub. ill have to check which one specifically sorry)
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well. last year i saw a bunch of people fancasting keanu reeves as shadow the hedgehog. how do we feel now
#uhhhh me#sth#sonic#sonic the hedgehog#i'm going to be honest#every time i saw someone fancast keanu reeves#i was like 'there is simply no way. this is not the kind of stuff keanu does. also he doesn't really have the shadow voice.'#well. here we are#i'm giving him a shot. his grumbly voice in john wick might have been preparing him for this#we all laughed at idris elba when he was cast as knuckles but he ended up doing a pretty good job
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dude oh my god. sonic forces..................
#OKAY SO I BOUGHT THIS GAME YESTERDAY#that and sonic mania. ive been playing sonic mania most of yesterday afternoon and today. anyways#THE FUCKING.. THE VOICE ACTING. AUGH. OUGH. MY HEART AND SOUL FOR THESE FUCKIN CRITTERS.#i adore the character custom options. currently im playing as a wolf. the outfit pieces r awesome.#i change my outfit like. every other level. i cant pick just one theyre all so neat looking#i also love that u can change ur character's colors after u start. its not locked into ur original choice.#AND THE WEAPON OPTIONS ?????? INCREDIBLE. THEYRE SOOOOO FUCKIN COOL#truthfully i am not a fan of the classic sonic levels. the controls arent my favorite.#BUT i do like the other sonic levels. and the ones where ur both ur own character AND sonic at the same time ???? amazing#sonic t hedgehog is my best friend fuck awffffff we jus vibin we besties now
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i say i dont like creams voice in sonic dream team but to be honest i didnt really like any of her english voices at first ive just gotten used to them over time . sorry cream
#so maybe this new voice isnt objectively the worst it was just a huge jumpscare#because it sounds the most Different out of all the english voices shes had#and doesnt really match what i expect to hear from her#i say english because i do like her japanese voice actually#but that might just be because the first sonic thing that i saw that was fully voice acted#and also had cream talk a lot and didnt just give her like 1 or 2 short lines#was sonic x . so its just what i was used to hearing for a long time
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you want to reread archie so bad.... its a good comic book... ooooooo you wanna read it sooo badddd
I was an AVID Archie fan my life used to REVOLVE around Archie sonic. I’m already trying to read the Spider-Man comic books I think re-reading Archie would transform me into middle school autism me
#not a bad thing but I have to time it right HQJRJWJJ#I used rp Sally Acorn. and Sonic. I used to do the sonic voice all the time#my twin made it a point to read and understand and memorize ALL the knuckles lore. it was impressive and terrifying#they told me all about it and I was very confused#I remember being close to an emotional breakdown when Archie started having legal troubles and reboots and shit#I was so anguished by the loss of the Archie comics I refused to touch IDW for a while due to mourning#archie sonic#<- going to make a tag… Just In Case#I remember ranting to all my friends abt it all the time. my irl friends have never touched Archie in their lives but they know all abt it#I have Opinions#if the Archie scene as it is now existed back then I would have been unstoppable. as it is I find immense joy seeing like minded people#talking about it and being like ‘YES THANK GOD SOMEONE FELT THE SAME WAY’#back then all I had was the fucking sonic forums. genuinely forums for sonic comics#I had an account to read from this one site that used to upload all of them anc ategorized them by era run and special#rip to that place btw
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more knuckles and baby!tails! Short one this time but its after the other knuckles and baby tails __
"It's Metal!"
The voice was squeaky and for a second, Knuckles braced for another opponent. They were nasally and youn- and it was Tails and Knuckles was a bad friend. He vaguely remembered the fox being chattier when they were younger, but maybe it was because he was directly compared to Sonic.
But the kit hadn't said a single word and Knuckles hadn't even noticed, but then why- Metal.
Shit.
And Knuckles was sent across the map.
He hit snow and digging out of the resulting avalanche gave him enough time to scold himself and to push it in the past. Erupting out of the ice, Knuckles hit the ground running. The Ice Cap was difficult and perilous on the surface, but if he could get underground, all tunnels lead to the Alter.
There was no time for subtly, and Knuckles barreled into the rock. The mountain stone crumbled under him and snow poured into the tunnel. He took off at double speed, he'd repair the damage later.
It took time to get across the island and even running, he could only go so fast. The ground shook and Knuckles grit his teeth. Tremors only meant one thing on Angel Island and like Hell would Knuckles let Eggman have the Master Emerald.
The ground steadied under his feet, Sonic was as late as ever. It took another minute before he burst into the early morning light.
"SONIC!"
Knuckles gripped a tree at the sudden intense wind, the branches buckled under the strain but he held strong. Pushing forward, Knuckles burst into the clearing and froze.
#Sonic#Miles Tails Prower#knuckles the echidna#tails the fox#my fic#fanfic#my writing#cliffhanger!! sorry not sorry#im doing some wild things and not all is as it seems#yea this is a thing now#its mostly unedited blurbs like this#but its over 5k#i do have a tenative plot/timeline i think#ether way i just like knuckles#spoilers: ive decided sonic can go feral#baby tails#before anyone says it knuckles isnt worried bc he knows sonic is gonna show eventually#i havent had any inspo recently or any time or energy to write tbh#and also im a bad writer bc this is mostly unedited hence knuckles voice not being correctly knuckles-esq but i want some validation#tho tbh my writing is p different to these snippets
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late night oc thoughts again!
#cosmo rambles#dimension cross edition#been thinking a whole lot about gear and source lately and of course RGB#DC too who is also part of the crew as the medic#and ive been working out their sort of connections to one another a little bit more here and there#gear and rgb are very much siblings and they about equally run the dimension cross crew#rgb takes more of the leadership position while gear usually takes the level headed backseat role but#ive found it increasingly funny to consider rgb might be the more normal and less impulsive one of the two#and by that i mean rgb is impulsive for sure. but she's less likely to do something horribly dangerous that would affect everyone#while gear may make a rash decision that might. endanger everyone. just a little bit. because he's either mad or impatient#gear absolutely normally is sort of the voice of reason and he is a very reasonable and wise guy#but he's also very strong and might actually be the one to pick a fight if he's angry and defensive enough#rgb... well. she's fought sonic before. stupidly. acted like a supervillain after finding a chaos emerald to convince him to fight her 1v1#then had to call time out because he almost kicked her ass into next year but. yknow.#basically. your honor they are silly#on the other hand source is kind of like the third sibling but also This Weird Dog We Found. Can We Keep Him#and then Wait we Don't Need To Ask To Keep Him. We're Keeping Him.#source is unnerving outwardly but they're pretty quiet all things considered. things considered being They Are Slime Mold in a Fursuit#but of course their whole thing is having the simultaneous best and worst comedic timing. we're in a space bar?#big angry space bikers? source is going to walk up to them and annoy them and then the whole dimension cross crew has to deal with a fight#or get kicked out of the bar. whichever comes first#dimension cross as a crew is also only four guys and they are not that organized. it's more like a road trip with general roles. in space.#interdimensionally also.#DC... their personality isnt really.. defined yet! they're somewhere between mad scientist and anxious nerd. they are just a woerm.#and by that i mean they're a worm off da string but also cybernetically enhanced. and the enhancements they installed on their own.#naturally DC is very skilled as a medic both for cyborgs and fully biological things alike#they're kinda just. rotating source trying to figure him out. endless fascination but also trying to avoid them getting hurt#i gotta think about DC more tho. theyre the least developed member of dimension cross and i feel bad#also got a new member of the crew going soon enough . .. .. im excited to think about the interactions between them all LOL
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Bingo Silver from the Olympic games bc u played that??
My introduction to the boi!! Considering the fact the Olympic games generally are not used in Silver's Character Discussions, I have nothing to say in that regard, haha. He's fine there, in my opinion! Competitive boi, plenty sweet and helpful too, altogether fun and interesting. Haha, what I remember from my very first introduction to him in London 2012 3DS is that I did not know which one of the two foggy clones was Shadow and which one was Silver! XD
#silver the hedgehog#mario and sonic at the olympic games#man I do miss those times you know#I was just learning English and reading all the wikipedia pages and learning about all the games was just so much fun#I do not remember what made Silver take first place in my Fav Character List over Blaze but it did not take too long iirc#the cutscenes from '06 did help! I stumbled across those (dropped me right into the game lmao) and they had voice acting and whatnot#and a whole soundtrack with vocal songs and the like#I was truly amazed because I'd never seen such things in a video game before
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Nuh uh uh *shakes my little finger* you will not get me Sonic franchise you will NOT get me invested into all this my dear buddy pal I've always enjoyed seeing you around but I will simply continue being a bystander just watching as it all goes by bcuz I know how it'll go if I actually get into all this
But also if I get bored I might get into it anyways it's mostly just a silly rule I put for myself cuz I know it would be a lot of work to catch up and I would prolly end up wanting to play some of the games if I got into the franchise but I'm not a gamer @ all so
#I say as my blog is primarily Splatoon related#I do play a lotta Splatoon ig but it's just cuz it's easy to pick up and play a few games plus I like the characters and art#I think if I started playing Sonic games it would take a lot longer for me to get thru a game#and if I don't just get thru it all in one night it might take me a while to get thru the game in general#plus how would I play the older games x_x thru an emulator ig but I'm more into official releases of games on their respective console#mostly just cuz it plays better or looks better#and also cuz I want more authentic experiences lmao I know I'm a nerd#anyway I'm just bein silly cuz I'm lookin @ a buncha Sonic stuff#don't even get me started on the comics man I never look @ the comics#and yeah I know One of the comic series is not to be talked about don't worry people make that point very clear lmao#in general tho not much of a comic reader either I enjoy how they look a lot but it's just a lotta work for me to read thru em#cuz I have to analyze like every single drawing and then try and voice the characters in my head#and then also remember wtf I just read#I'm one of those mfs who reads smth and just kinda forgets it the first time lmao#like how exactly does one read all the words in a sentence but literally none of the words stick LMAO#I've seen a few others who are like that tho at least so I know it isn't just me#literally Sonic's VA in Prime was doin that a lot while reading which made me feel very seen I enjoyed it#it's funny tho cuz someone reading to me while I'm also reading it makes it seem to stick a lot lot better#okay well this is getting into a totally different ramble abt the differences in learning I don't think I have enough room#to talk abt all that but like it's smth I did a lot when I was young where I would repeat what ppl wear saying in my head @ the same time#as them talking in order to just really understand what they were saying to me so while reading I gotta make up for it#by reading over it twice so that it sinks into my mind
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havent gotten to dbz yet but truly the more i find out about dragon ball the more silly the "sonic maliciously ripped off dbz, everything parallels PERFECTLY" thing becomes to me
#sonic is definitely influenced by dbz but it didnt rip it off.#i think ppl forget that sonic wasnt originally a story heavy series and the super forms werent stuffed with lore yet beyond the one mural#at least iirc#so the super sonic transformation being a super saiyan one wasnt like an original story concept at the time. it was a fun reference#and when it DID get its own thing then it got separate lore to go with it#i think whats pretty malicious about this argument is that it sorta hinges on you not having seen both shows#like when i was a kid and people were insisting sonic ripped off dbz and all the characters were the same#then like. i was assuming vegeta was a test tube baby who was mistaken for goku and had angst towards humans#i was assuming that the dragon balls made you super saiyan bc thats what the emeralds do#you cant have a shonen inspired protag have a super form anymore guys you cant have 7 artifacts cause dbz did it#and the character comparisons are so silly. like they cant decide whether tails is gohan or krillin#tails is gohan cause. hes a little kid who's around the protag. hes smart#shadow kicks silver in one scene and yknow i THINK shadows his dad in the future so theyre basically just vegeta and trunks. cant fool me#chi chi is just like amy cause shes a mean love interest which has also never been done ever#echoed voice
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if i try really hard i can make everyone in the yakuza franchise be voiced by matt mercer
#snap chats#sorry every time i hear english daigo i still call him chrom#itd be way funnier to call him sonic but i just only ever hear chrom#but then i keep making jokes that ill play kanji voice clips over ryuji#and then i was thinking about all the artsy things yusuke says and i was like 'i could prob throw that over mine'#i dont do this on purpose i really dont it just so happens all the charas i mentioned would fit really well with rgg charas#if i were to be cereal for a sec tho i'd prob cast someone else as ryuji#Even If I Love Matt Mercer i do imagine just a slightly deeper voice for an english dub ryuji#maybe travis willinghem.... or patrick seitz.....#ok im done being insane bye#*im done being insane for now
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