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My less popular opinion (and what I believe to be implied by the art in Lost Days) is that rather than waking up in a fully grown body Jason didn’t actually complete his puberty until after his Lazarus pit dip while he was on his murder tour. Imagine you’re tied up in a basement in Berlin getting interrogated by a teenager and his voice is cracking the entire time and if you laugh he’s going to shoot you
#Late puberty Jason truthers rise#Egon calling up Talia like ‘did you send me a middle schooler what is this’. ‘He’s technically high school aged actually’#he would’ve been like 18 when he finally regained consciousness but the way he’s drawn could easily be mistaken for 15#I know people love the body dysmorphia angst of Jason waking up big but I offer you this: Jason wakes up looking basically the same to a#world that has moved on without him and is unrecognizable. His death/injuries stunted him he existed for years in a state of suspension#while the world passed him by. He was on pause while everyone kept moving on and he didn’t get unpaused until the Lazarus pit and he has#to scramble to catch up. He’s actually 18 but the last thing he remembers is being 15 and his body reflects this state#and then once his mind is finally back online puberty hits him like a truck. Just look at the difference between how Jason is drawn#immediately after his dip in the Lazarus pit vs the end of lost days when his training arc is over#It implies it could’ve been multiple years but in order to fit with the timeline of other comics I personally don’t think it#would’ve been that long. I think he just sprouted up like a weed#Jason Todd#dc#I think Jason is technically still growing by the time he’s red hood. In my personal mindscape he doesn’t reach his peak buffness/height#he’s like 21 and he’s 19 in utrh#Sorry for my 1538283th post about red hood lost days I’m obsessed with his little fucked up coming of age story#Red hood lost days
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List of Jason Todd/Red Hood's weapons/gadgets/touys
Note: This is mostly from comics written by Winick, as I refuse to acknowledge most of n52. Feel free to add more, though!
Note2: This post was originally formatted in a different way, as I foolishly forgot about the image limit.
Blades
1— His iconic dagger!
Can cut through stone, and most of Batman's gear. It's been heavily debated what kind of knife it is; wether a kris, a parrying dagger, or a third secret thing.
2— The blades he gives Mia to defend herself!
I'm not sure what kind of blade they are, they vaguely look like wakizashis? Their size varies from panel to panel so idk😔
3— The katana for the 'duel' with Oliver!
4— And to link with the next section, the exploding katana!
Yes, it's a katana that explodes. Jason baits Oliver into holding it.
Explosives
— First of all, he blows up many many things and it's not specified what exactly he uses. So the unspecified explosives that only appear as a cool fireball panel get a bullet point.
5— The jumble of explosives in the Final Confrontation™️, we can see some dynamite, C4...
6— Bomb in a crate
7— Small bomb. Not lethal!
8— Bigger bomb. Yes lethal.
9— Continuing with this absolute icon: the bomb under the Batmobile (should I capitalize that?)
10— Small Rocket, used against Brick
11— Grenade?
12— Small, cylinder-shaped explosives. Detonated upon impact?
13— Small explosive that attaches to flat surfaces, used against Dr Freeze
14— Grenade.
15— Molotov Cocktail
16— Enough C4 to destroy a whole building, modded so it explodes if its temperature reaches one point, countering Batman's method of freezing bombs.
17— My absolute favorite, the exploding helmet!
Even if it's listed under 'explosives', it's also an important piece of technology in the Red Hood's arsenal.
Firearms
18, 19— The guns in the wall from Annual #25, there's surely more.
20— Machine guns hidden in crates!
21— Machine guns hidden in cars!
22— Rocket launcher, used against Black Mask
23— Even more hidden machine guns! This time in an electricity pole.
24— Machine gun (also hidden, but surprisingly not attached to anything)
25— Handgun👍
26— AK-47, you know the panel from where it's from
27— Submachine guns, I think 🙂
28— When out of ammo he uses his guns as blunt weapons, which I wanted to note
Tasers
29— The nazi-killing taser
30— The reason for the creation of this post! The grapple line taser! Attach it to a grapple line and it will shock whoever is connected to it. Noticed it in a reread of utrh and needed people to see it
31— Bonus: the bat-symbol taser. Iconic enough to be here.
Tech & Surveillance
32— Monitor and microphone?
33, 34— cameras :)
35— thing to see the feed of the cameras
36, 37— phones :)
38— his little tech den in #650
39, 40— computers :)
41— whatever this thing is
42— The surveillance device that looks like he taped a canon camera to his face
43— Wiretaps!
44— Bugs!
He also has his evil lair in B&R2009 bugged.
Miscellaneous
45— Does his crowbar count
46— smoke bomb!!
47— Injectable adrenaline. He just has that in his utility belt.
48— His batmobile-evade suit.
49— Is saying his belt buckle mean
50— Unspecified poison! Goodbye Egon
51— This thing that attaches to its target and launches them off
Not pictured:
The fancy weapon dressing he gives onyx to patch up the shoulder wound he inflicted (I forgot to screenshot 💔)
Also, he has this whole hq-ish thing in Annual #25
(Edit: That rectangle in the gun wall kinda looks like an anti-drone gun now that I think abt it)
It has a murder board, which I think is cute.
#jason todd#red hood#batman#Under The Red Hood#UTRH#Lost Days#red hood: lost days#Green arrow: seeing red#seeing red#outsiders 2003#pay as you go#(mentioned‚ like‚ once)#can you tell I lost motivation halfway through#oh forgot#rhato rebirth#idk what else to tag#my tags#jaybird#RH#bruce wayne..#my post#meta#boom#taser#comic excerpt#my panels#🐈⬛
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Resurrected post-lazarus pit Jason Todd is like the world’s angriest teenager and he makes it everyone’s problem. He says fuck you to anyone telling him to take his trauma laying down and starts blowing shit up instead. I just think it’s neat. It’s the catnip to my metaphorical cat and I’m going to keep rolling around in it until I’m so high I can’t see straight. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
#in summary i just really like jason todd#he’s a fun guy he deserves nice things#and i’m going to keep giving them to him with my silly little fanfics and blog posts#i'm sick with a cold so of course i'm re-reading lost days and utrh for the nth times and i think maybe the cold medicine is getting to me#jason todd#red hood
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jason's lazarus pit was golden jason's lazarus pit was golden jasonslazaruspitwasgolden jason's lazarus pit was golden JASON'S LAZARUS PIT WAS GOLDEN
AND PIT MADNESS IS *NOTHING*
#can't you read the TWO universally accepted good jason stories#(utrh and lost days)#they're good jason's there. the pit? gold. the madness? NOT FUCKING REAL#your story? WORSE FOR NOT KNOWING THIS#talking to the void#my thoughts#fandom nonsense#dc comics#jason todd#before someone comes at me about how people can write what they want and canon isn't sacred and blah blah#yeah i know. you'll notice I'm ranting about this in my personal blog! instead of leaving it in someone's inbox!#in my personal blog i can say express my own opinions!#and my own opinion is that the pit madness trope SUCKS and if you use it your jason writing is BAD#and also at this point I've developed a violent pavlovian response to the word ''green'' but that's neither here nor there#bitter lau tag#dc#dc thoughts
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Thinking about Jason's outward expression of emotions. He tends to only get angry as a response to perceived injustice (the same way Bruce, Dick and most of the others do). But unlike some other characters, Jason rarely every gets wound up in it, nor does he get angry even when he sees injustice if the situation doesn't call for it. Some characters get angry first and then manage their response to whatever's more appropriate, but my interpretation has always been than Jason doesn't need to because he doesn't often begin with the rage. It's not a default, instinctual response for him in most situations. It seems to be that he becomes angry when there is a perpetrator (and specifically, of a crime that hurt people with less power than the perpetrator has, in some way) towards whom he can direct that righteous anger (righteous as in the cause is his drive for justice. I'm not discussing the rightfulness right now). Can he hurt the man who was about to hurt a woman enough that he doesn't dare to try imposing his power over another woman again? Can he do something, anything to stop a serial rapist who has already caused the suicide of at least one woman? But he doesn't possess the sort of blinding anger that could become a driving motivator for his actions outside of someone in front of him to punish. He doesn't need the anger (mostly because he will instead fixate on the crime without rage to fuel him).
The notable exception to this being his behaviour preceding his death (which is explicitly referred to as atypical for Jason by both Bruce and Alfred. The whole reason he's forced to take a break from Robin is because that anger is so unusual for Jason that Bruce and Alfred are worried about Jason's mental wellbeing).
We see in Lost Days that Jason’s default state has become (to the concern of Talia and Ra’s) seemingly unfeeling, and he shows signs of a persistent flat affect throughout Lost Days, with exceptions for when he sees injustice (which is responsive, as compared to the aloofness he uses as a constant state of defence -> see: his and Talia’s conversation after he killed for the first time, Talia being glad that his sense of empathy and justice were able to overcome his general coldness). Jason's aloofness was entirely a conscious defence, but at times he was consciously exercising it (his reaction to Tim in front of Talia vs alone).
We see him cry for himself a few times, which tends to be how Jason first reacts to what hurts him deeply. Then there's his cold hatred for Bruce, which can be taken as anger in the face of heartbreak and perceived betrayal. But that anger never goes very far: Jason couldn't even make himself blow up the batmobile. In the end, it's Jason's belief that he hates Bruce and must make demands of Bruce to force him to redeem himself in Jason's esteem that fuels him. Because Jason wants Bruce to redeem himself, even if it's unlikely that he will.
All throughout Lost Days and UTRH, Jason uses teasing/biting humour in a very Robin manner to direct attention to whatever he pleases, whether that be pulling attention away from vulnerabilities or drawing attention to distortions of the truth. This habit returns to Jason strongly around times when he breaks out of his apathetic state (when he’s killing people who hurt others, pretty much), but the undertones of coldness and derision even with that humour don’t leave. We can see in this habit especially how Jason's become a distortion of who he was as Robin. He's still witty and he still teases people and you can hear the humour in his voice. But now he's using that wit to say cruel things to Batman, deceiving him constantly, and his voice no longer has a youthful kindness to it.
One of the most Helena-esque character traits that Jason’s picked up (in fanon and reboot canon) is anger as an initial defence and reaction, actually. It’s nearly the opposite of Jason’s pre-flashpoint defensive state but is essential to Helena’s. It’s actually not surprising that this happened (even ignoring reboot kicking Jason’s character into a closet and superimposing much of Helena onto him) because of how DC pushed “angry” as Jason’s defining trait, and how fans have believed it for so long. It seems almost natural for a misconception this severe to happen, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because every action of Jason’s is misconstrued as proof for an angry temperament.
#if i'm using a very simplified version of various emotions it's because so does fanon and current canon. i've gotta match that i guess#sometimes i feel like i get too annoying about how different jason's anger is from fanon and newer canon bc there's nothing wrong with that#type of anger in a character but that's irrelevant. because jason's not the firey explosive seething 24/7 sort. he's much colder and far#more pathetic actually because he's lamenting not seething. this is essential. he wouldnt have been able to do any of lost days or utrh if#not for this. literally everything would have gone down a lot differently if jason had that kind of anger in him#jason todd
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It's finally here!!!
Graphic design is my passion LMFAO but as i said i would do a while back,i've created a masterpost of all the Jason Todd content that's worth your time!This is rather long but he's existed since 1983 so!!
Base edit is my little sister @mayameanderings and tagging @coffeemilkcatz and @nanaonmars since they said yes when i asked if they wanted me to!Let's dive in then!
Batman 408-426,Detective comics 568-582,Superman annual 11,New Teen Titans 18-31,Blue Devil 19,Action comics 556 and 594,Batman Annuals 10-12 and Batman(The cult)for pre-reboot Robin!Jason my beloved
Nightwing Year One 101-106,New Teen Titans 55,Nightwing 10(1997)and Legends of the Dark Knight 100 for Dick and Jason siblinghood,Gotham Knights 34 for the short story of him and Alfred and Detective comics 790 for Bruce telling Cass about him as it takes place on Jason's birthday
Lost Days aka the Red Hood prologue
Under The Red Hood(2010)-The original comic is good in it's own right but the movie is leagues better written(Rare comic book adaption exception lmao)
Robin 177 and 182-183 for the actual Tim and Jason beef instead of 'replacement' and 'enemy to caretaker' bs
Azreal:Death's Dark Knight 3(Can't give commentary on this one since i don't know Azreal like that,sorry)
Red Hood and The Outlaws(2016).Unlike the Utrh comic vs the Utrh movie,the original Rhato has nothing positive like the reboot
Not TECHNICALLY Jason BUT Duke is his favorite brother and Stephanie's the only Batfam girl he's truly close to so you should also stan them since he'd want you to /lh
Red Hood:Outlaw for the confirmation that Red Hood loves black women from infinity to infinityyyyy(meaning his love interest Dana Harlowe is introduced and featured as an mc in this run)
Urban Legends 1-6 for his return to the Batfam-Messy tbh but i do enjoy parts of it!
Task Force Z for him and Stephanie being a vigilante team and it has a prelude,that being Detective comics 1041-1043
Unkillables and Joker:The Man Who Stopped Laughing for Jayrose goodies and more of the above
Gotham War if you feel like turning off your brain to look at good art and laugh at dogshit writing
Red Hood:The Hill is his current run and when our queen Dana comes home from comics limbo!!!
The following is a misc list that's not required to include in your Jason knowledge but HIGHLY recommended you do just for fun!
Tiny Titans 23,29,33,39,45 and 47,Bombshells 46,60 and 62,Bombshells United 18-24,Lego Batman:Family Matters,A Death In The Family 2020,Batman:The Adventures Continue,Batman/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 5-6,The Doom That Came to Gotham 2023 and The Teen Titans Go episode 'The Best Robin'(Pre-Reboot Robin Jason rights!!!).Also look up 'Nobody cares about Tim Drake' if you don't know what that is,you'll love it
Jason also appears in the Lego DC Super Villains games that i highly recommend as well especially because my girlfriend is a mega fan of it and i don't know much about Lego Batman 3:Beyond Gotham but please avoid the aformentioned original Rhato,Red Hood:Outlaws and the Gotham Knights game as they feature extremely problematic writing not limited to but including racialized misogyny and ableism and do disservice to Jason himself anyway so you wouldn't want to consume them to begin with if you want to like him.I have mixed feelings on the Arkham Knight and Injustice games series' but they are objectively fairly good so i wouldn't say no to giving them a shot to see if you like them
And for the finale we have Wayne Family Adventures-Definitely a good read but to be totally honest it does Duke DIRTY and it sucks so much of DC to have marketed as his series to not only not follow through at all and make it an ensemble cast instead but ALSO deprive him of his actual characterization and story to make him a demure weak black boy stereotype.I won't judge you at all for liking it if you decided to read it or have already but kindly keep this in mind and consider joining me and my mutuals in our rewrite of it to give our Signal of Hope and Chaos the writing he deserves or at least support us through likes and reblogs!Happy Jason readings and have a good day💕
#jason todd#black jason todd#latino jason todd#afrolatino jason supremacy#trans jason todd#autistic jason todd#bipan jason todd#aroaceflux jason todd#robin#red hood#jaydana#jaytemis#jayrose#jayeddie#batfam#anti rhato#jason todd deserves better#antijayroy#antijoyfire#anti batcest#ditf#lost days#utrh#rhato#the outlaws#dead sidekicks force#the anomalies#jaysumm#💌#summerposting
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New Jason Design?!? 😱😱
#like clockwork#every couple months#but I actually really like this one#I feel it captures his lost days/UtRH era vibe#a little devious#causing problems on purpose#scheming#plotting#I think imma rework some of my other bats’ designs too#jason todd#ambrose art#dc comics#batman comics#red hood
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as someone who's just starting to read batman comics... does jason actually brings his death, like, every five seconds in canon? or is a fanon thing?
#somehow jason ended up as my favorite for some reason#and no. i haven't read anything of jason besides his robin run and lost days and utrh so#i can't read things just like that so i had to look a timeline and i'm reading tim's run now so no more jason for a while#and idk if he does that and i'm curious#jason todd#dc comics#red hood
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Talia, pushing Jason into the Lazarus Pit: I can fix him (Bruce) by fixing him (Jason)
#talia said hooray new son! now bruce has TWO child support payments to make#extremely funny to view lost days/utrh as talias master plan:#how to make bruce less fucked up by giving him back a son +bonus son and killing the fucking clown#(so i can comfortably share custody of Damian and get a Fucking vacation)#but jason just had to go full theater kid and sabotage his joker killing efforts by being dramatic :/ (takes after his dad)#talia al ghul#jason todd#bruce wayne#under the red hood#red hood: lost days#batman#dc comics#mine
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This is the core of Jason’s character.
Again they try to hammer in that Jason is brash, arrogant, and reckless; that he jumps before thinking. However you can’t really attribute reckless behavior to arrogance or carelessness when he only ever becomes instinctive during very specific instances. The few times he’s “stepped out of line” or just threw himself into an unknown/dangerous situation it was always to protect someone from predators and sickos. Otherwise, keep in mind the number of times he’s been praised for his intelligence and judgment; for being meticulous, calm, and cooperative.
Batman #424 (1988)
#besides. even when he ‘took things too far' it was never without thinking it through first and understanding why his actions were warranted#not to mention familiarity was a predominant theme in utrh#(aka how clever he was. his timing. improvisation skills.)#jason todd#robin jason#batman 424#dc#comic panels#‘people only say Jason cares about women and children because of lost days’ somebody didn’t read the robin run I see#also how the fuck is that bodyguard not dead#you see that window to the right of him? that’s a solid brick wall on the other side. not dry wall#if Batman threw him so hard he shot head-first through the building like a bullet there’s no way he could have survived that come on now#no amount of plot armor or the author said he didn't die can make it make sense lol#contrary to popular belief batfleck didn’t actually come out of left field
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It's really weird when people make the lazarus pit revive jason when they don't want to explain the whole "superboy prime punched reality 🤷♀️" thing when the ghost symbolism is standing right THERE. if it were ME i'd have him come back because his soul can't rest while his murderer is still hurting others. Makes so much more sense trust me+spoopy factor
#he even alludes to this in lost days imo#he says “the loa still can't figure out why i came back to life#but i know#i came back to do what needs to be done“#like come on someone becoming a ghost because their murderer lives on and they can't rest easy is like the most common horror trope#or because their last wishes havent been fulfilled or whatever#and also jason was constantly victim blamed after his murder#if anything he shouldn't be able to rest easy bc of all that damn ppl badmouthing him 😤#jason todd#red hood#this is to the utrh movie
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Can I say something fucked up. New Earth!Jason is such Slade-bait. He’s young, he’s socially isolated, he’s already highly trained and willing to kill, we don’t see him in contact with Talia post utrh so we can assume he’s got no support system, he’s in desperate need/want of a father despite being too angry to go back to the bats and Slade is very daddy shaped. Slade wouldn’t even need drugs to get his claws into him the way he did with Cass all he would need to do is pat Jason on the head and call him a good boy and he could have him bouncing and moaning on it within a few weeks time. If you’re looking at sladejay happening from an apprentice type angle Jason is both incredibly easy and hard to recruit. Easy because of all the weaknesses pointed out before. Hard because as vague as they sometimes are, Jason does have his own plans and he very much walks to the beat of his own drum, he’s not easy to hold down (Talia couldn’t control him if she wanted to, she had offer him training to convince him that staying was for his own benefit). Interesting dynamic to explore. I can’t stop thinking about it 😵💫
#Sorry for making it all about the daddy issues. It will happen again :(#Lost days!Jason is Jason at his most and least recruitable bcuz his plans hadn’t solidified yet but he was very intent on some sort of reve#immediately post-utrh!Jason is uniquely vulnerable. It all depends on whether Slade is looking to recruit tbh#Sladejay#sorry for being annoying in the sladejay tag it will happen again
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Chapters: 1/? Fandom: Batman - All Media Types, Batman (Comics), Batman: Under the Red Hood (2010), Red Hood: Lost Days Rating: Not Rated Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Jason Todd & Bruce Wayne Characters: Jason Todd, Bruce Wayne Additional Tags: Mystery, Fluff and Angst, Hurt/Comfort, Geocaching - Freeform, Past Character Death, Implied/Referenced Character Death, Adventure, Bruce Wayne Tries to Be a Good Parent, Jason Todd Needs A Hug, Jason Todd Returns Home, Bruce Wayne is Bad at Feelings, Lost Days-Era Jason Todd, Canon Divergence - Comic: Red Hood: Lost Days Vol. 1 (2010), Canon-Typical Violence, Jason Todd-centric, Bruce Wayne-centric, Manipulative Talia al Ghul, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Implied/Referenced Human Trafficking Summary:
Bruce receives a mysterious text message on his phone. There's a video of a burning building, snow, and trees in the middle of the night. That is already concerning, but what catches him off-guard is the laughter of the person behind the camera. It's one that has haunted his dreams for three-and-a-half years by this point.
Jason.
But that couldn't be possible, right? Bruce had seen to his burial personally. So who was the person behind the camera?
Determined to find answers, Bruce sets out to find the culprit, only to be left with a trail of clues in the form of geocaches that provide more questions than answers.
#jason todd#jason peter todd#robbin ii#robin 2#jaybin#red hood#bruce wayne#batman#batman comics#dc#dc comics#red hood and the outlaws#red hood lost days#batman under the red hood#batman utrh#my fanfic#fanfic#geocaching geo-catching
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my kingdom for a jason todd run where he kills people and he doesn't make stupid mistakes and missteps that are absolutely beneath him nor acts like a brainless brute and also where every little detail of characterisation I care about is precisely how I want it and his philosophy is showcased and challenged in an interesting way and
#wish i had a kingdom to sell it to dc in exchange for just. getting to write one (1) limited series about him. just ONE (13 issues minimum)#alternatively make reading his robin run and utrh and the lost days mandatory for everyone put in charge of his writing. because jfc#talking to the void#my thoughts#dc thoughts#dc#dc comics#jason todd#favourites: the walking dead#favourites: smash the system
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DITF, Lost Days, and UTRH summary
Jason: How Am I Supposed to Live Laugh Love in these conditions?
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Jason Todd IS a minority,it's just that his solo stans are painfully not intersectionalist and fail to realize he's not 'female-coded',he's poor and mentally ill and classism and ableism exist so he gets hit with both a lot both in-universe and in a meta sense.He dosen't get treated like a woman,he gets treated like a lower class disabled man LMFAO
#jason todd#pro jason todd#black jason todd#latino jason todd#afrolatino jason supremacy#trans jason todd#autistic jason todd#aroace jason todd#bipan jason todd#< aroaceflux#batfam#ditf#lost days#utrh#rhato#the outlaws#dead sidekicks force#team dual#the anomalies#jayeddie#jayrose#jaytemis#jaykyle#jaydana#anti wfa#anti batcest#💌#intersectionality#x black!reader#summerposting
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