#(because polish history)

[nobodysuspectsthebutterfly]

Has anyone asked George what's the tax policy of any of the asoiaf kings (and queen)?

You haven't read the books, have you. Does the dwarf's penny mean nothing to you? Bran in ACOK and Manderly's silver? Littlefinger and his embezzlement? Cersei in AFFC and the Iron Bank? Dany in ADWD and the olive trees and the fighting pits? Tywin and his relationship with Aerys, who raised taxes and tariffs despite Tywin's objections, then blamed his Hand when lords and merchants complained and lowered the taxes so that they would praise him? Alton Butterwell and Edwell Celtigar, hugely unpopular masters of coin because of their taxes? King Jaehaerys and his "Lord of Air" Rego Draz? Rhaenyra aka "King Maegor with teats" and Bartimos Celtigar, murdered horribly for his taxes? No, seriously, have you read anything at all?

[historicity-was-already-taken]

"The end of liberalization in Poland, like its beginning, was accompanied by anti-Semitism. During March of 1968, an organ­ized “anti-Zionist” (a euphemism for anti-Jewish) campaign was launched against those self-defined Poles whom Polish society as a whole tended to regard as nothing but Jews. It turned into one of the most extensive witch hunts in the history of that country. The harassment began with an attack on and purge of a few people in top positions in the party, in the government, in the army, and in public life, but soon it broadened to include individuals of Jewish origin in all walks of life. They were pressured to provide proof of loyalty to the state and party, proof which, when given, failed to exonerate them. Anti-Semitic insults were hurled at individuals of Jewish descent. The students protesting peacefully against the end of liberalization and the tightening of controls in Poland were alleged to be misled into insurrection and counter-revolution by clever, traitorous Zionist plotters. They were mercilessly sup­pressed. When interrogated by the police, arrested students of Jew­ish or mixed parentage were repeatedly asked to state their nation­ality, and their response 'Polish' was rejected as not true. Others who were 'real Poles' were asked, 'why did you tie yourself to these filthy Jews?' or, 'why did you allow yourself to be used by these kikes?' Their 'Zionist' leaders were arrested and put on trial. The parents of these stu­dents—sometimes prominent Communists—were removed from their jobs, as were other individuals of Jewish origin. All of these were urged to leave Poland, but permission to do so was given to them only if they renounced Polish citizenship and applied for exit to Israel."

Celia Heller, On the Edge of Destruction: Jews of Poland Between the Two World Wars, pg 299.

[hanzajesthanza]

also i realize i'm saying all these noble and beautiful things about the channel from the purest depths of my heart. but actually i'm also just doing this because i fucking love the witcher books and it pisses me off that people don't know about them that much in english and i can only go for so long (seven years) with people not knowing that there are books. or that the witcher is from the 90s. or polish.

[edennill]

Consider:

The Faithful of Númenor having clandestine "schools" of their own, their children gathering in their houses to be taught the forbidden elvish tongues, and more importantly, unexpunged history and religion (although I do feel slightly hesitant to use the latter word in relation to the Legendarium). Definitely most prominent in Andustar and later among those deported from it, often, these lessons masquerade as trade schools, so that whenever the king's soldiers are at the door, one can quickly hide the books, bring out embroidery hoops and spread cloth over the parchment.

Illicit theatre performances! Ask me about my headcanon that Númenor invented theatre one day, but the gist of it is that culturally, it's pretty important, but at some point a very stringent censorship becomes the norm, and many erstwhile classics are forbidden (not to mention any new plays with a Faithful message). Cue the practice of semi-professionnal troupes secretly performing in people's courtyards with very little in terms of scenography/costumes, but with a strong emphasis on good acting. Theatre is not considered a low occupation in Númenor, so even certain relatives of the Lords of Andunie take part in those shows.

[wszczebrzyszynie]

ill be honest with u i followed u cause of ur oc art and THEN found out about ur hermitcraft stuff. im not a big watcher of it anymore but i followed for ur art style and im just here for the ride whatever u wanna make

makes me so happy to hear, actually ... my ocs are my pride and joy, so seeing people interested in them and staying here because of them or my art in general means a lot. Have a concept wip i need to colour! i love 1890s fashion the most out of all i think

[marietheran]

polish people when you ask them to critically engage with their country's history and the way their country is dealing with it: i don't talk to trolls(:

Sir. Or Madam. Given this site's demographics probably Madam. Or whatever title you'd apply to yourself.

I am in fact trying to critically engage with history. Which is why I said there is controversy and that I would like to learn the truth. Unfortunately, every source I have met with so far on whichever side of the debate was either visibly written "for a specific outcome" or of dubious standing among historians.

Look, when I die I will ask God about it. Till then I have reconciled myself to the idea that unless something changes I will have nothing but the vaguest of pictures.

I am calling your messages trolling because I have been careful not to give a decisive statement since I do not know what is true. I strongly suggest that you might have a better use of your time than to come shout at me for... I don't even know what your precise argument is?

[momokatzetzgo]

little brain: Lisa was executed because the church thought she was a witch for her advanced medicinal knowledge and her lax relationship with God. Her knowledge challenged the authority of the Church, so it killed her for it

Big Brain: Lisa was executed because she was Catholic not Orthodox

[brick-van-dyke]

The more I learn about the history of the middle east in general, the more I realise that the "Israel-Palestine conflict" is actually just a group killing their own fellow shared ethnic group who are "too brown".

Hebrews and Arabs both originate from Phoenicians, aka "Abraham's descendents" according to their respective oral stories and passed on histories. They are from the same place and people. However, there is a narrative that twists this and claims that Arabs were "always an outside force that invaded", when the various groups within that ethnicity always had their share of cooperation and conflict in various stages of history. Just like, say, the various groups in France. They were of the same group and no particular ethnicity had no more of a "claim" to the land than the other, they just had their beef and eventually integrated.

So when I see "but the Arabs are colonisers" I can't help but ask; what is a colonisers to you? Seriously. If colonisation means "any conflict in the past between a shared group from the same place" every single group would be colonisers. There's no such thing as "an innocent conflict" where atrocities weren't committed by either side. So please get that out of your head if you want to say "but the Arabs did X, Y, Z to the Hebrews so it's colonisation and they don't belong in A, B or C areas". That's just not how colonisation works. It's like calling TERF or cis a slur when they're not. Conflict between the same people from the same area is, yeah, a conflict hit not colonisation. However, a people who are from a completely different place who want to erase an ethnic group and take over their culture, erase their history and get rid of their physical features? Yeah, that's what colonisation is. It's genocide with the aim to erase a specific group or culture and take it and the land over. For example, the British in the Middle East.

The problem with calling Arabs "colonisers" is not only is it completely historically wrong, they're from the same place and have the same origins as the Hebrews, but they (like Palestinian Jews) have been their since before the British came. Compared to European Jews who came later on after having lived in Europe (and became European as that is genuinely a part of their culture and ethnicity as well and shouldn't be erased or forgotten, that's also cultural erasure of Germanic, Polish, etc traditions passed on) and, sure, do have origins there *as well* but it needs to be understood that they, specifically Zionists, are a part of the British colonial project aimed at killing *both* Arabs and Jews. The point isn't to help Jews against a colonisers from the first few centuries (sorry to tell you everyone, but no, the Ottoman Empire, Baylon and the Pharaohs literally do not exist anymore, like how Italy isn't the Roman Empire by default because that's where Rome is), but a group of people who've just been living there for the past few centuries and generations who just want to live. The problem is, they haven't been allowed that and propaganda keeps being pushed that completely jumps around historical facts like, for example, Jews (ethnically speaking) were not always Jews but the Ancient Hebrews, aka, Phoenicians, aka where Arabs came from ethically. They are the same people, just who moved to different areas and developed different cultures and languages. Sort of like, you know, every other nation with specific dialects for specific regions and different cultures and folk stories depending on where you go.

The point is, so much of Jewish history is actively being erased to "protect the Jews" by...commuting cultural genocide of the Jews and Arabs. It ignores the actual impact of Nazism within Israel's formation and history, how much it influenced policy, how Jews who were "too visibly Phoenicians" aka appeared too Jewish or arabic or middle eastern in appearance were deemed as "weaker" and "lesser" for my surviving the holocaust and used as a reason to deny rights to both Jews and Arabs who were too visibly Semitic. It ignores how antisemetic Israel is towards Jewishness and how utterly antisemetic Islamophobia is because they are literally from the same origin and, yes, hatred and fear of one does carry into hatred and fear of the other. So much of the propaganda and denialism of history happening right now is a direct response to dear and hatred of "big noses", "brown skin" and people deemed as too middle eastern because they, just like in World War II, World War I and beforehand, antisemetism is the backbone of British imperialism and conquest of the middle east (yes, this also means a targeting of Arabs and Jews as people who look a specific way). And yes I'm annoyed and yes this is a ramble that's probably not very coherent, but damn I'm so sick and tired of misinformation and the twisting of everything to suit this narrative of "Arabs versus Jews" as if they aren't both just Semites who are being collectively oppressed, erased and reinvented by the west to suit western ends.

[slaviclore]

Please enjoy this lovely funeral march in honor of today, the anniversary of Fryderyk Chopin's death (October 17 1849). He wrote the funeral march as one part of a 4-part sonata, and it would become the soundtrack to the some of the most historically significant burials since (like Churchill, JFK, Stalin, or Queen Elizabeth). Though it was played at Chopin's own funeral (kind of epic to write your own funeral march), he didn't ask for it to be (he asked only for Mozart). In fact, he wrote the funeral march 12 years before he died, and though he initially labeled it "marche funèbre" (funeral march in French), he soon scratched out that title and never referred to it as a funeral march again (that we have on record). Why Chopin wrote the world's most recognizable funeral march only to quit calling it a funeral march is one of the great mysteries of the Chopin world.

[widowshill]

thinking about how roger is the one to undo the last knot and let her go in the original scripts.

[unhonestlymirror]

Повстання Богдана Хмельницького, яке відбулося 1648 року, було направлене проти свавілля панів. Одним із перших замків, який захопив талановитий полководець, попри оборонні укріплення високого рівня, був палац у містечку Олика на Волині. Ним володіла родина Радзивілів. Із тогочасних записів щоденника Альберта Радзівіла, стає зрозуміло, що це був складний період для вельмож та панів, проте цілком виправданий.

«Незвичайний це був рік, адже усі піддані підняли на своїх панів і настало таке спустошення Русі, подібно якому ніколи не було», - пише Альберт Радзівіл. З цих слів здається, що він ставиться до повстання на чолі з Богданом Хмельницьким, як до Божої кари, навали сарани чи пошесті, але за словами дослідника історії Акіма Галімова, Альберт все одно відзначив, що першопричиною цього повстання були якраз утиски підданих.

«Хоча в інших монархіях спалахували повстання – останнім часом у Неаполі та Франції – жодне, однак, не було жахливішим за наше. Ніхто ж бо не визискував підданих більше, ніж наша Польща. Раніше гнобили бідняків, а зараз вони гноблять багатих і, як пани в різний спосіб вичавлювали кров із хлопів, вони тепер роблять те саме. Козаки учинили нечувані злочини, бо нечуваними були наші гріхи», - записи зі щоденника Альберта Радзівіла.

Ці історичні записи, як каже Акім Галімов, показують Альберта Радзівіла як «людину розумну, яка чітко розуміла, що експлуатація бідних якраз і була однією з причин козацьких повстань».

***

The revolt of Bohdan Khmelnytskyi, which took place in 1648, was directed against the arbitrariness of the lords. One of the first castles that the talented commander captured, despite the high-level defensive fortifications, was the palace in the town of Olyka in Volyn. It was owned by the Radzivił family. From the diary entries of Albert Radzivił at the time, it becomes clear that it was a difficult period for the nobles and lords, but fully justified.

"It was an unusual year, because all the subjects rose against their masters and there was such a devastation of Ruthenia, the like of which had never happened," writes Albert Radzivił. From these words, it seems that he treats the uprising led by Bohdan Khmelnitskyi as God's punishment, an invasion of locusts or a pestilence, but according to the history researcher Akym Halimov, Albert still noted that the root cause of this uprising was precisely the oppression of his subjects.

“Though rebellions have broken out in other monarchies—lately in Naples and France—none, however, has been more terrible than ours. No one exacted from their subjects more than our Poland. They used to oppress the poor, but now they oppress the rich, and just as the masters in various ways squeezed the blood out of the peasants, they are now doing the same. The kozaks committed unbelievable crimes because our sins were unbelievable too," - notes from Albert Radzivił's diary.

These historical records, as Akym Halimov says, show Albert Radzivił as "an intelligent person who clearly understood that the exploitation of the poor was precisely one of the reasons for the kozak uprisings."

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[drthrvn]

not the Israeli representant at ESC saying that it felt good to receive 12 points from Poland because "almost all of the members of her family died in Poland during the Holocaust" 💀💀💀💀💀 girl you know we were not responsible for that, it simply happened here cause a) there were many Jews living in Poland and b) Slavs were also to he exterminated. like. people need to stop with this whole "Polish concentration camps" bullshit it's 2023

[tendebill]

[wip]

update: i have managed to do all the stuff i need for tomorrow/this week (i think. i hope.) and decided to treat myself by working on this seph piece a bit more :']

[wandixx]

Le me, reading "The Last King of Poland", a literal, freacking biography:

With all due respect, mister Adam Zamoyski, how dare you?! How freaking dare you?!

I know history, I know it will end with disaster. How dare you make Stanislaus Poniatowski (last king of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth) and Catherine the Great (empress of Russia) (both would get these positions some time later btw) like cross between high-school sweethearts and star-crossed (ba dum pss) lovers. We both know it destroyed the country (not only that and the country was in pretty bad shape beforehand too, but still). It caused wars. I have romanticism and patriotic "fight for the fatherland even if you're guaranteed to loose bullshit shoved down my throat to this day because of shit that went down kinda because of them.

And you still make me actually sad when you wrote "When on 14 august 1758 he left Petersburg, he didn't suspect that next time he'll see Catherine will be thirty years later"

You can't make it look like Stanislaus is the first nice thing that happened to Catherine since she arrived to Petersburg. You can't describe them as soulmates, as two (and Stanislaus' second father figure) against the world. You can't say that he was reluctant to... do the thing with her, even speak with her because she seemed cold and later because she was wife of the future, kinda aggressive emperor and sleeping with her was easy way ticket to Siberia and Siberia is what Australia was to British Empire but really freaking cold. You can't then quote how after first time they spent night together Stanislaus wrote "In that moment I forgot that Siberia exist in this world"

You can't write about how distraught they were when they were apart for few months. You can write how they tried to tip toe around because politics. You can't add tension when they were found out and then have her husband (Paul, I think, I don't care about him enough to check) do one nice thing when Stanislaus confessed and Paul just... woke her up in the middle of the night, put her in front of Stanislaus and went "Well, I hope everyone is happy now"

You can't do all of that and expect me to not get invested. And I wasn't even that huge shipper of historical figures before, like c'mon.

And then they turn toxic.

How could you...

[ratuszarsenal]

Oh my goodness PLEASE elaborate on the tags of your badly explained hyperfixation!

good evening! the first half referred to the relationship between Keith Windham and Ewen Cameron from The Flight of the Heron, a jacobite historical novel, which is everything I love in a book and then some. Keith starts out merely respecting Ewen (and admiring his physique), but their relationship slowly morphs into a deep friendship/love and I fell for it at page 1, hook line sinker

the second half referred to jacobitism itself, which I have been interested in for years. jacobitism is incredibly complicated as both a subject for scholarship and a political/ideological movement, but its core tenet was to restore the Stuart dynasty to the throne of Britain (or just Scotland -- it's complicated), which had been ceded to the Hanoverian dynasty in 1714

[marietheran]

Interesting things about Warsaw #1:

Honest-to-goodness bullet holes from 1944 in older walls (with plaques next to them)

Much more numerous chinks that just might be bullet holes in the walls (without identification)

We've also got a church that was destroyed by the Germans and rebuilt, and they embedded fragments of the old walls and side altars into the structure. Looking more or less the way you expect something that was bombed to the ground to look.

And a different church where they have a Crucifix in several parts mounted on a wall.

Honestly, I've been to a church in the Old City a few times in my life, and I find something of that sort near every time.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't even particularly like this city, but the weight of history bearing down on it is something.