#(barely for meenah but.....)

[pyrobot1cs]

just got out of the shower thinking about how some of the best written female characters I’ve seen that weren’t from media catering to girls are from Homestuck

Like. Homestuck is a fairly female-led story, like yeah the two leaders for each of the main sessions were TECHNICALLY boys, but Vriska was really the one moving the story along for the trolls and Egbert doesn’t even count that much as a boy anymore (I loev June). Rose and Jade for example are two REALLY WELL WRITTEN characters (and they should have talked more) , and when you read about them, you CARE about them. Pretty much all of the troll girls are great as well, Aradia, Vriska, Kanaya, and Terezi (and if we get into dancestors, Meenah, somewhat Damara, and Aranea) are all HUGE driving forces for the plot and,, for most of the boys- well June herself puts it better than I could have

When we get into the Alpha kids though it gets a little blurred, Jane and Roxy are both amazing characters but Jake and Dirk seemed like way more of the focus characters, probably mostly in the fandom but I think Jane and Roxy’s characters kind of suffer in-canon as well, also since a lot of both of their characters revolve around being boycrazy about their respective crush and it sucks!! ALSO!!! CALLIOPE IS GREAT I LOVE HER BUT I NEED TO THINK OF MORE ISSUES WITH HER

THE FANDOM ALSO SUCKS ON HOW IT TREATS WOMEN CHARACTERS TOO BTW like that’s where the worst of it is really, I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen fanart of just Jane on her own and not in a ship or in a lineup

sighhhghghhghh thank you for listening to ramblings im just talking talking blah blah

[etoilesbienne]

it is a little funny seeing the few twitter mutuals i had pop up here like hey guys. um welcome to my scary rat den. i promise im not scary

[dingodad]

i guess if there's a thesis to this morning's post it's that homestuck feels quite aware, almost pointedly so, that sex is not intrinsically part of abuse but rather just one possible tool to be used by abusers. doc scratch is speaking sincerely when he says he's asexual, because he grooms not for sexual pleasure but in order to uphold societal power structures, and meenah basically perpetuates this same pattern. trolls have weird sex but it's not the weird sex that makes them fucked up, it's just something that's been turned against them. cherubs have such weird sex it barely qualifies as sex anymore. caliborn is almost certainly not capable of anything even closely resembling what we would be able to recognise as sexual attraction he just gets a kick out of using other people's own relationships with sex to fuck with them

[hyperbali]

After the final battle against Corypheus, Jeanne Amell's newly reunited and fairly eccentric family - herself, Nathaniel Howe, their daughter Dejana, Morrigan, and Kieran - were quick to leave Skyhold, sensing trouble brewing on the horizon.

For several years, they traveled the expanse of Thedas together, the elder three doing their best to raise and mentor their children - and adding yet more to the brood.

In 9:47, when Dejana was a young teen, the family stopped over in a fairly remote part of the Free Marches. Deja, as was her wont, wandered off to explore on her own, finding an ancient and rather foreboding ruin. She was almost drawn into it by a mysterious impulse - and deep inside, she found a most unusual tome.

Though Flemeth is gone from the world, vestiges of her power yet remain; not enough to command or possess, not anymore, but enough to shake. Dejana's head felt as though it were about to split from a sudden onslaught of light and heat and pain--and then all went dark...

Jeanne, realizing she'd not seen her daughter for several hours, sent Kieran to find his sister. When he came up empty-handed, the adults delved into the search. Hours turned into days... then weeks... then months...

Dejana Amell has not been seen again since.

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In the meantime - a traveler happened upon an unconscious Deja that very eve, thinking they'd found a lost and alone child. When she woke at their camp, she couldn’t remember who she was beyond her given name, or how she got there. Still, she's always been a smart girl - and clearly brimming with magical power. Such things have their potential.

Option One: Dejana De Riva - Spellblade

Madeleine De Riva had been on her way back to Antiva after a successful assassination in Orlais. Though not exactly the nurturing type, she recognized just what a mage with some fairly impressive swordsmanship could be capable of - with the right guidance. She took the girl with her back to Antiva City, and so began the young future Crow's unforgiving and often quite dangerous training.

Option Two: Dejana Ingellvar - Death Caller

Zophiel Ingellvar, a rather accomplished necromancer of the Grand Necropolis, had been returning from an excursion to meet with what remained of the seers of Rivain. They had always been quite shrewd, pragmatic, and perhaps more than a little bit of a schemer. With the girl practically radiating dark magic with barely a blink, they knew it would be best to bring her back to Nevarra. Some of the elder necromancers might have had an issue with it, but, well... nothing some creative memory spells couldn't fix...

Option Three: Dejana Laidir - Evoker

Meenah Laidir, a Lord of Fortune with a fairly obscene reputation and following of her own, had been hoping to shake off hot pursuit from Kirkwall's city guard by way of the Vimmarks after a heist gone awry. Getting stuck with a tag-along had definitely not been part of the plan, but when the girl startled at a noise in the woods and practically called down a firestorm, what opportunist would have been stupid enough to turn up their nose at that? The rest of the crew certainly didn't seem to have any problem warming up to her, at least!

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Even as the world seems to be falling apart yet again in its latest disaster, and an ever-rebellious Dejana pushes at every boundary and authority she can, she struggles to regain the person she once was. Senses trigger fleeting memories - the smell of warm perfumes, the low hum of an old Fereldan folk song... but still, she tries to stay focused in her newfound life.

But for the voice in her head, the wizened and wicked cackle ever ringing in her ears, and the sudden incredible compulsion she feels once more to get herself involved when she hears whispers of the Dread Wolf...

[nekropsii]

"Meenah dated a sixteen-year-old" Yeah no it's worse than that. It's so much worse than that. (Vriska) is physically AND mentally thirteen years old. THIRTEEN. And dating a NINETEEN-YEAR-OLD. (All the ghosts are implied to not have aged mentally since their death.) Even if you think that the ghosts have aged mentally, they start dating (at least in the comic's chronology) two years after (Vriska)'s death, which means she would have been FIFTEEN. Dating a NINETEEN-YEAR-OLD.

Meenah, a fully-grown adult troll, having definitively reached the age of majority, is dating the Alternian AND Beforan equivalent to a thirteen-year-old.

Not to mention that Meenah expresses romantic interest in a fifteen-year-old Karkat.

It is SO much worse than just "Meenah dated a sixteen-year-old". She dated a thirteen-year-old. There is a six-year age gap between Meenah and (Vriska). SIX. YEARS. And they're both TEENAGERS. BARELY even teenagers (on both ends of the scale).

I think it's weird that people would make an argument that "the ghosts have aged mentally" when, like... The Alpha Trolls haven't. That's kind of the point. They're still stuck in vicious cycles of teenage drama and brainrot. And it's verging way too close to the logic of "She's mature for her age" employed by pedophiles and the "Thousand-Year-Old Loli" trope, also employed by pedophiles.

It's also weird because (Vriska) isn't the one that says she's 16.

That's regular Vriska.

It's not unlikely that Meenah knew how old (Vriska) was. I get this info based on the fact that she says that Vriska's age of 16 is "a little more respectable", presumably than... You know, (Vriska). Who would be 13.

Let's not forget she had a weird thing with Karkat. Also 13.

She's a sleazy little bastard and she's aware of it to an extent. At the end of the day, blaming (Vriska) or even Vriska for Meenah's behavior is fucking ridiculous. The former especially, because frankly, what the fuck. That is a 13 year old grooming victim. Yeah, Meenah was unhappy with the relationship and felt bad about it, but she was still the one that... Did the grooming.

Visual Metaphor Enjoyers, eat your heart out.

[birchbow]

chapter 43 sneak peek :)

(This is definitely what the drama is about, and the most exciting thing that happens in the chapter. Don't look at the-- no don't look behind this door. the stuff coming out from under it? uhhhhh jelly. weird bad jelly)

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“RateMyFeeder?” you repeat, incredulously.  “I’m already on there?”

“Angels work fast but horny little trainees work faster,” Tidoto says, shrugging, and pulls out her palmhusk.  “Here, uh…”

The church fleet hub of RMF looks stupider than the regular fleet one, because of course it does; the main picture of you is a candid shot of you in the middle of an impromptu lecture, nicely lit up under a light—after so long, the way it catches the red in your eyes only makes you vaguely self-conscious, instead of instinctively terrified.  The other picture—

“How the fuck did they get this?” you say, and Tidoto laughs.

“The bitch who was running Hot Or Not got culled,” she says, “So now they just use the one thing for both.”

You do look hot.  You’ve got your shirt off, and you’re pretty clearly in one of the Condescension’s training blocks, hands braced on your hips to bend back like you were cracking your back.  It makes your ass look fantastic, and your rumblespheres look even better, even in the severe, compressive exertion-optimized sphereholster you were wearing that day.  

Apparently the clowns agree with you, because your Hot Or Not rating is a generous four flames out of five and the top review on your RateMyFeeder just says “TITS (⊙o⊙)”.  When you keep scrolling, fascinated despite yourself, there’s an entire thread of reviews, seconding the sentiment or being offended on your behalf, or warning about how prospective trainees are at risk of falling for you a little, even if you are a mean little mutant who doesn’t wear a face.

Those make your face pretty straightforwardly hot, in the same smug way as Meenah’s pushy flirting; at least you know what to do with that.  Less comfortable, but even more distracting, are the reviews that just seem to be…genuine.  About how you’re passionate about the whole thing, or how you stop and explain things, or how you answer everybody’s questions and… shit like that.

“97% positive’s pretty crazy,” Tidoto says, while you stare at the screen and struggle not to feel anything stupid.  “I’ll have to catch you one of these nights.”

“Uh, yeah,” you say, and then shake off the weird sensations going on in your thorax and close out of your profile to go scrolling through with interest, looking for other faces you know.  

Untoxxic’s rating is 73% positive, which is honestly surprising to you—although apparently they’re likable enough as a schoolfeeder that their head apprentice is transparently horns over heels flushed for them, so maybe you just haven’t gotten a good cross-section.  Travye is there as well, under his title as the Stædfast, and you’re amused at first to see that his feeder rating is actually more negative than positive, and then almost immediately distracted from that by the hotness rating, which puts him at very nearly a five out of five, and comes with a shot of him doing some kind of obstacle course with his shirt stripped off.  

…Holy shit, immediately followed by a shot of him snarling on some alien planet somewhere, red-eyed, caught in the act of smearing a bloody hand across his jaw.  It’s cropped in, with shameless horniness, on the bared side of his throat, his flexing jaw and the flash of his tongue as he starts to lick the blood off his lip.  Fuck you on a musclebeast phallus.  At least there’s no blatant pilebait of you on here.  The hooting about your rumblespheres is plenty.

[davekat-sucks]

tbh the biggest joke about this update is that fans are reacting to these deaths at all. did people forget that we're in homestuck of all things? where death is a complete joke, and the biggest tragedy got in universe retconned? are you (the royal you, not you specifically) stupid?

well thats one of the biggest jokes. the other is them introducing even more new characters when the omega kids and other post canon characters have barely been used at all. pretty sure that is the type of greed is what the bible warned about.

They forget that the humans are all gods. They forget the rules of conditional immortality that they need to die either a JUST or HEROIC. Nothing about Jane shooting down a fuck off lazer beam or Jade being shot is identified as either the two. The only characters who is likely to die is the Omega Kids and trolls that might have been around for the blast (Karkat and Kanaya), but even then, they forget that Meenah god tiered right before she died and used the bomb to perform the Scratch. So there is a chance for Meenah to extended the lives of those two if she wishes. Jane can even revive others too at her will at the tip of her fingers. We basically got two Life Players on Earth C who can play around with the dead until one of them hits the former condition. Media literacy died with the fandom by Post Retcon along with its author.

[taintedpompom]

So did your mom go to this school too?

Meenah sat at her officer leaning back in a chair that kight as well have been a coach for all its plushness. Her lips curled in a grin as she lazily pumped her fist across her shaft, her other hand holding open the lastest edition of Conqueror Uncovered. It was a raunchy rag of a zine, celebirty interviews and pulp stories pieced between pinups of the hottest model empowered enough to go topless next to a tell all about their secret fetish for massive futa cock.

It wasn't barely porn, it WAS porn, stubbornly clinging to print media like that added a touch of respectability to the zine. It was bullshit and Meenah should know, she owned the damn paper. Still Conquerors Uncovered had good articles, and a better photographer. The magazine suited the school's purpose of expanding their own influence, and more importantly it suited Meenah's own purpose of enjoying her evening.

That was until the door to her room burst open.

"Coach I demand-" Rose begain stomping over to the woman before staring at the large semierect member in Meenah's hand.

The coach snarled, tossing her magazine on the desk. "I was busy, ever hear of knocking?" She stood up, her cock slapping against her knee as she loomed over the growing gal. "And you don't call me coach anymore Rose, you don't even call me my name, you lost your little gamble. So if ya gonna make demands, who do you ask again?"

Rose gulped, her eyes darting to the cock that dangled past her sight, its head hidden beneath the desk. "D-daddy?"

Daddy Peixes smiled and Rose felt her nerves ease up, she wasn't sure what she was so flustered about anyway, sure Daddy might be out of uniform but its normal for a teacher to lounge about in their office. Her eyes glazed over Meenah's shaft, forgetting the elephant was in the room and focusing instead on the coach's words. "So then Rose, what is it you were demanding again?"

Rose squared her shoulders and looked the coach dead in the eye. "I quit."

Meenah stared back. "I'll miss you."

Rose blinked, then blinked again. "That's all? I remember you were quite insistent last month." Her hands pressed against her hip in sympathy to a forgotten memory, yes Meenah was VERY insistent that day. "No debate, no carrot or stick? I win?"

Meenah shook her head. "We'll you know, I wanted you to give it a try, and you've been trying for a while now, but hey, some people can handle it it and you clearly couldn't. Its nothing to be ashamed about, lots of people can't handle the pressure."

Rose pouted, leaning forward on the desk, her rear jutting behind her from the gesture. "This isn't about aptitude, its about interest. I can HANDLE anything."

Meenah shrugged. "Except this Rose, shame too, thought you were gonna be the star. You know, considering your legacy and all."

Rose's brow furrowed. "My legacy?"

Meenah grinned, leaning forward. "Oh? You didn't know? Your mom, Roxy-"

"Her names Roxanne." Rose said shaking her head.

"The fuck I tell you about interrupting me. So as I was saying, ROXY went to this school. Nah, that's bull, she RAN this school. Entered on a sports scholarship and gradutated Valedictorian, almost got us to Nationals too." Lies of course, all lies, but they were working.

Rose, took the bait hook and sinker. "My mother never mentioned this school..." She muttered, looking away from Meenah, who had taken to sauntering around her domain, her cock keeping a metronome with each step.

"Of course she didn't, last thing a mom wants is to pressure their babygirl, but its all true." Meenah tapped a large golden trophy in the center of her trophy case, the third case specifically she had a lot of awards. "This beaut was won by your Mother's old team by the international Cheerleader Idol competition." Actually Meenah won it, and she got it by beating 3 men in Memphis at a PPV, but Rose wasn't going to look away from her cock long enough to read that.

Rose swayed with each step, letting the words sink in. "So my mom..."

"Was the best cheerleader this school ever had." The coach said with a sigh. "Though I was hoping you were gonna kick her from the throne. But as I said, it appears beyond you."

Rose sneered. "You think I am going to dictate my life span simply to surpass my mother? Really, do I appear so oedepial?" She smirk sitting on Meenah's desk. "I see through your games."

"Oh?" Meenah stepped closer to Rose, who grinned. "You too clever for me?" Meenah stepped again, her cock closing the remaining distance as it swelled.

Rose chuckled. "I know it." Bright pink lips curled into a smile as she grabbed Meenahs shaft, her eyeshadow sparkling like the eyes below them, all with the same glint of mischief. "You are trying to make a dichotomy between me being better then my mother, and being a individual." Nailed hands lifted the throbbing beast to Rose's lips, though instead Rose kept petting the beast, only lapping away what droplets of pre oozed freely.

Meenah gave a small sigh of contentment as Rose nuzzled her shaft. "And I am right ain't I? You either rebel against your parents or a beat em. Leather jackets or gold medals Rose."

Rose tittered. "Oh contraire my sweet studdaddy... All it takes is good moves and good grades to beat my Mother, it doesn't say anything about behavior. I can be a bigger deal them my mother and still be a bad girl." Rose's eyes crinkled with hidden laughter. "Do you want me to show you?"

A few minutes later, well 45 to be exact, Rose was happily walking happy at a debate hard won, now her tutoring hours were only a hour longer and her credits doubled. Those points will certainly help her get her own unique uniform for her own unique form of domination, AND she got to buy a leather jacket. Rose was beaming, and she didnt even notice her body was somehow even cleaner then it was when she walked in.

Meenah however finally had her peace. She leaned back in her chair, smirking. It was a hard debate to be sure, but now that Rose was back in line she earned her quality time. It was a good thing the Coach was so quick witted, Rose easily bought that lie about her mother.

There was a crash sound as Meenah's trophy case shattered, her large Memphis trophy crashing in the ground admist a pile of broken glass. Meenah's eyes trailed upward to the much fancier pink trophy that now sat where her trophy did. Emblazoned in glittering gold it announced itself as the 1995 International Cheerleader Idol awards.

Meenah frowned, this school wasn't even arond in 1995, the Headmistress only moved in round 2012... right?

A premonition coaxed Meenah to grab her copy of Conqueror Illustrated, flipping straight to the cover. Emblazoned on it was the largest pair of tits Meenah had ever seen, not by mass but by presence, the low angle, the water dripping onto the camera lense, it gripped you and begged to be gripped. And above, almost hidden from view, was a familliar smirk, identical save for the mole beneath her lower lip. But, considering the glittering blonde hair, and the mischief in those lilac eyes, Meenah already could guess who it was before she looked at the articles title.

"The mother the World loved: Roxy Lalonde tells all about Cheerleading, the Boise Bad Boys, and being the single mother with a thousand lovers." The font was bold and white, shameless in its proclamation, and its defiance of reality.

Meenah sighed. This could be... well no Meenah certainly didn't think it was a problem her pet project had a pedigree now... but it was going to be paperwork.

[badlydrawnrufioh]

Inbox is empty, and I haven't been very active in a long while, so I figured I'd share some relationships stuff (/≧▽≦)/

Kankri Rufioh finds his blabbing a bit much, and doesn't always get what's Kankri's actual deal, but he assumes best and tries to more or less abide. He respects him a lot and feels like he owes Kankri for a few things he'd done for him (and Damara) in the past, but since Kankri isn't making a big deal of it, neither is he. Overall considers their relationship good, and feels like Kankri's one of very few people who get him. Mutant buddies.

Damara Oh the tragedy of doing something stupid when you were, like, 13. Really, that whole drama follows them into their young adulthood, even though they both want to put it behind them (thanks, Meenah). Overall, they've got the top 10 most tragic moirallegiances in the history of Paradox Space, and they aren't even paledating. They were confused and traumatized kids. To Rufioh, Damara is probably the single most important person in his life and afterlife, but he's not able to fully face it yet. Mostly because of his guilt over hurting her in the past, and failing to take responsibility (they were getting there! buuuut stuff happened, thanks [REDACTED]), and then getting hurt by her, which, ngl, pretty traumatizing. He misses her a lot, but, as usual, won't confront these feelings.

Mituna He likes him, but does find his sense of humor a bit uncomfortable. They used to hang out more early in the game and with Kankri, too (mutant trio mutant trio), which was... an experience, to say the least. It might've soured Rufioh's opinion a little bit, as he was borderlne third-wheeling at times - Kankri and Mituna had their own relationship drama going on, and as much as Rufioh liked to ignore the issues in front of him, even he struggled with that one. But it wasn't his business, y'know? So it was just awkward. Eventually they drifted apart, and that was that. He still thinks Mituna's cool, tho, they just aren't close.

Meulin He thinks she's neat. Very nice - god knows that session could have used somebody like that. He respects and appreciates her cheerfulness even in difficult times. Definitely watched anime together and talked about ships. Just an easy person to be around. He also bonus respects her for defending Damara when Meenah was tormenting her.

Porrim Finds her extremely uncomfortable to be around. Aside from her culler-like tendencies which raised a lot of red flags in the first place, her "men are horrible and women are victims of everything" views also didn't endear her to him. And as somebody who struggles with agency and being stripped of it, the fact that she still can't take no for an answer (see: Kankri), makes him even more uncomfortable. Avoids like a plague.

Latula She's cool if a bit overwhelming. He respects her a lot, and I imagine they played games together. Turned out they were into similar genres, so before everything fell apart, they used to vibe. After Mituna's accident they barely interacted, though.

Aranea He finds her pretty cool, actually. Even when people are assholes to her and about her interests, she doesn't give up on them, and he respects that a lot. He also does find what she talks about interesting, and he'd love to get closer to her, but she's hanging out with Meenah too much for him to try. He thought exactly once (1) that Aranea deseves better friends, and banished that idea immediately, because that's an invitation to a conflict he doesn't want to take on. Viva la avoidance.

Horuss Second most important person in his life and afterlife, as messy as everything about their relationship is. He's not entirely sure when Horuss flipped a quadrant on him (spoiler: it was when Rufioh gave him an origami horse), but by the time he realized it had happened, he had no idea what to do about it, so he just... didn't. He did start occassionally avoiding Horuss, though - not as badly as he is now, but it's not such a new thing. Still, they spent most of the game together, and somehow it didn't help their extreme miscommunication problems. They were actually getting somewhere, but then everything went wrong, and they both fell back on their unhealthy coping mechanisms, and that's kinda how it stayed. F. He definitely cares about him, but the relationship is draining. Horuss went from somebody who saw him for the guy he was to another person with weird/perfect ideas about him, and it makes everything all the harder. He wishes they never got together and were simply friends the entire time. Horuss is pretty cool, otherwise. He's super skilled and smart, and Rufioh misses the times they were just vibing in Horuss' workshop, working on some fun projects. Well, Horuss was doing more of the work - Rufioh was just throwing ideas every so often, and making sure Horuss didn't pass out. Fun times.

Kurloz One word: complicated. He'd always found him a bit uncomfortable to be around, but had nothing to justify these feelings, so he just ignored them. Still, aside from that, their relationship was ok for the most part. [saying anything else is too big of a spoiler]

Cronus Rufioh was probably one of a very small number of people who weren't completely put off by him, which is somewhat surprising, given... literally everything about Cronus. Rufioh found his fascination with magic cool, actually, and was even willing to listen, and in exchange he'd talk about his anime & and recommend some stuff he thought Cronus could enjoy. They were surprsingly chill. Rufioh treated Cronus' flirting as a joke, which it partially was, so it also led them to have a pretty decent friendship. Nothing crazy, though. They were just ok, and eventually like everybody else drifted apart.

Meenah Even more complicated than Kurloz, somehow. She definitely makes him feel something different compared to everybody else. (It's hatred. He hates her guts, and it had long since passed the romantic stage. Now he just wants to gut her. On a very, very, very subconscious level, because, like most of his feelings, he ain't gonna deal with these. In other circumstances, maybe they could've been black one day, but it's far too late. He's not a forgiving type at all, and Meenah had crossed every possible line she could've in his eyes.) They're cool.

[blaperile]

Homestuck: Beyond Canon (reactions pages 615 - 625)

Oh man, that was a great update.

Finally we get to see (any version of) Karkat again, it's been so long! I love how he adresses it himself in a meta way with that "KEPT YOU WAITING, HUH" (which hilariously also reminds me of Snake's introduction video in Super Smash Bros. Brawl).

Also, the "big kahuna" thing is a fun callback to how Meenah insisted Jake called her during their last conversation.

I love how much Karkat and Meenah visually resemble the Sufferer and The Condesce lately, fits just right in with how Dirk and Rose were now looking similar to Bro and Mom in the latest update.

Karkat's interactions with Meenah and Sollux are still absolutely golden. Especially love the callback to Hivebent back when Karkat (jokingly) asked Sollux if they were still friends, and now Sollux is doing it to him.

Pffff, the LOBsTERs. Such a silly name and clear A-Team/Rambo rip-off, but I love it. It also clearly shows how Karkat isn't just fighting for/with the Trolls but also has help from all OTHER kingdoms (the Consorts, Carapaces AND Humans!)

Karkat's going with barely any of sleep again, kind of like he did during SGRUB.

Anyway, it's really clear that this is building up to a serious confrontation with Jane. In fact, the very last page here kind of feels like how back in the Homestuck days you'd just know the next page would be an [S] one.

And it would make so much sense for it to drop on 6/12

Except, James Roach his newspost is saying we're still getting another update later this month. So is the [S] page still dropping later this month after all, or will there be one more update for build-up before the real deal?

I'm looking forward SO HARD to that [S] page. It's been so long since we've had one in Homestuck^2, and it'll be the first time for a "proper" one (seeing as the previous [S] pages here were just the God Tier clock and Sollux watching Aradia disappear).

I'm guessing this [S] page will probably be the closure of "Act 1", the question is just what exactly will happen in it?

I'm assuming it will involve pretty much everyone in the Candy timeline (though I wonder what role the kids would play in it exactly?), I'm curious to see if it will also deal with the Meat timeline (will it show Dirk's timeskip and the chasing ships arriving?).

My guess is it will also reveal what exactly "The Point" is. Will it be a Hiveswap-like portal that can transport them to the Meat timeline? Will it be a device that will transport the meteor and everyone on it?

Oh man if the entire meteor gets transported and Jane's ship(s) get left behind that would also be an interesting callback to when Jane entered SBURB and saw the Condesce's ship flying overhead.

If instead they come through a similar portal device on the Meat meteor it would be funny to see their reactions what with how all the Creators are currently gone from that planet (either going to Deltritus or on a little adventure with Jasprosesprite^2).

And will it already be time for Deltritus to start their SBURB session in the next update or not yet?

And what could even be the song? Something composed by James Roach himself, perhaps? Will it be an entirely new song, an existing Homestuck song, or a new song using some existing Homestuck motifs in it?

As for the name of the page, I'm going all-in on "[S] Get to The Point" :D

[knights-unwelcommentary]

Thinking about how Meenah arrived to the dream bubbles right after blowing up her team with a bomb and she might've been ready for a social fallout or at least some awkwardness but everyone she knows has already been there for epochs, talking about their adventures together as the good old days and she can barely recognize some of her friends anymore. She took it in stride but anyone else would've been wrecked about it

[roxycaptor]

HS music HC's part 2: beforus time

extremely gratified by the positive response to My Personal Ideas about what the alpha trolls would listen to which motivated me to consider the rest of the cast as well. posting the dancestors first because i fear i may forget them otherwise.

Damara: visual kei, j-rock, and riot grrl. doesn't listen to country much but has a healthy appreciation for the "woman kills her abusive husband" subgenre. Rufioh: ska and pop-y love songs. also just likes anything he can sing along to. Mituna: hyperpop and educational rap. likes the noise from those algorithm sorting videos. Kankri: if you ask him he'll just go on a rant about how the music industry is Problematique and never actually answer the question but he secretly listens to musical soundtracks and like. carpetgarden and Sir Chloe and other repressed longing bands. Meulin: classic emo and pop punk, also listened to a lot of nightcore edits. usually let kurloz pick the music when they were hanging out, but didn't listen to his stuff on her own time. Porrim: goth queen. Lebanon Hanover, Xmal Deutschland, Siouxie. outside of goth probably enjoys Marina Diamandus and Hozier. Latula: game soundtracks, riot grrl, queer punk. G.L.O.S.S. and Bikini Kill. Aranea: Scissor Sisters, Autoheart, The Taxpayers. anything that would have been on a yuno gasai playlist in 2015. most of her friends think shes a classical music person and she doesn't go out of her way to correct them. Horuss: midwest emo and extremely grating meme edits youd find on youtube during a rabbit hole at 3am. Kurloz: juggalo stuff & brutal death metal. Cannibal Corpse, Carcass, Urgehal. anything where the growling is barely distinguishable from the lyrics. Cronus: showtunes, early rock and roll. The Beach Boys, The Beatles (mostly their earlier work), Elvis. Meenah: 90s rap and screamo.

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alphaswitch au - introduction

hi! here is some info about the alphaswitch au by @clockworkdrop​ and i, since some people expressed interest in it!

all of this is directly copied from the huge doc we have, and this post is mostly focused on the characters. not everything is set in stone/planned out yet, so some characters have more info than others. my plan is to update this post with new stuff as we figure it out lol.

general stuff

alpha kids and dancestor trolls are the ‘beta session(s)’

dirk and roxy live in the same year as jane and jake

alpha kids and dancestors are the same age (16 at the beginning, 19 by the end)

not a direct parallel of the canon beta session, some things are different

session lasts several months

the rest is under a readmore cus this shits long

alpha humans

jane:

server player: roxy

sprite: gcat + poppop

patron troll: aranea

receives guidance from meenah

guardian, dad (dad), john is deceased

meenah insisted on being her guide instead of aranea because of their connection

meenah tries to give relationship advice but since she’s jumping all over it’s not helpful

jake:

server player: supposed to be jane, ends up being dirk

sprite: dirkbot + ??

patron troll: kankri

receives guidance from aranea

guardian, jade, is deceased and was grown into a giant tree on the island

aranea became his guide after kankri fucked off and meenah stole jane from her

aranea tries to give him romantic advice but it kinda doesn’t work

roxy:

server player: dirk

sprite: wizard doll + frigglish

patron troll & guidance: porrim

guardian, rose, is a prolific author whom roxy really looks up to, but she feels a sort of distance from her that she doesn’t know how to fix

often talks to meulin about cats and other things. roxy learns about the quadrant system from her

when her mom dies, has an aspect berserk moment similar to rose’s grimdark that causes her viewport to go dark

has some internalized homophobia, doesn’t know she’s not straight (yet)

dirk:

server player: jake

sprite: a puppet i guess + dirk’s head

patron troll: latula

receives guidance from kankri & latula

guardian, dave, is a famous movie director and is rarely home. he leaves various items and notes around the house for him

secretly wants to be closer with him, probably kind of fucked up when he dies

still has lil hal who is just as much of a nuisance. maybe even more so

while his patron troll is latula, kankri quickly took her place as his guide both because dirk is the only one that can even somewhat handle talking to him and kankri finds him infuriating in an intrigued way. he also thought latula wasn’t “doing it right”

he still talks to latula, they get along well. she maybe helps him out with jake stuff cus kankri sure as hell isn’t going to. she is also more helpful with game stuff than kankri is

after dirkjake kiss, dirks head ends up in dirks puppet sprite so he has dirksprite (another splinter, he mad)

hal

still glasses

just being so annoying to dirk

also to kankri

he figures out whats up with dirkkri before dirk does

eventually dirk is convinced to make the body for him, its a horse robot but it can also transform into a human body too. hal loves it unironically but dirk is using like 12 layers of irony to rationalize this being a good decision

trolls

session lasts 3 years (13-16)

won but just barely

still gave the frog cancer

tons of teen drama still

basically everything that was described in the comic to happen before the dreambubbles still happens, except the scratch

kankri:

trollhandle: genesiologicalCancriform (GC)

genesiology - obsolete term for study of genetics/reproduction

cancriform - latin adjective describing crabs/cancers

in a neverending cycle of debate with his past and future selves

probably likes troll documentaries

panquadromantic like karkat, but just suppresses any sort of romantic feelings he has towards anyone. a lot of internalized… panquadrophobia???

pretends he’s not suppressing anything because all microlabels are valid but also shames porrim but he’s never been a hypocrite in his life 

his celibacy is more of a result of the hemocaste system on beforus rather than a genuine disinterest in romance - he wants to feel independent and not be “coddled” by anyone

picks fights/debates with dirk over stupid shit just for the hell of it

still has a crush on latula (at first)

pacifist, so probably relied on porrim to help him during the game (was mad about it though) (his plan was to lecture to imps and ogres to go away)

she teaches him how to use guns but he still rarely utilizes it

Still wearing the leggings until right when the humans arrive, when porrim gives him the sweater

arc: learning to listen to his friends instead of speaking over them, not be misogynistic and ableist, quadrant stuff, recognize some of the group don’t care about hemospectrum, learn to accept help from others (and hopefully get the rest of them there) (dirk helps with most of it)

meulin:

trollhandle: catalysislAficionado (CA)

catalysis - a catalyst is something that provokes significant change or action, referring to her matchmaking

aficionado - she loves doing it

very invested in the love lives of the kids and tries to help them out with their crushes even if it has no chance of happening

idk i think she’s just taking them like barbies and smooshing their heads together

has a tendency to view others as characters rather than real people

causes problems through incompetence/obliviousness to others’ feelings

besties/eventual moirails with roxy

this catgirl can fit so many repressed emotions in her

arc: get away from kurloz (roxy), learn boundaries (also roxy?)

meenah:

trollhandle: (CC)

feels connected to jane after going through her timeline, for reasons she doesn’t understand (yet)

tries to get jane to do dangerous stuff because she thinks it’ll make her a stronger player

constantly jumps around the timeline because she’s looking for exciting things to do

godtier

arc: meenah really cares about her friends but they all have strained relationships because she spent so long bullying them to make them stronger at the game, so a good place for her arc would be her becoming a good leader but not through like dictatorship and telling them what to do or whatever, but just by learning to better utilize how she cares and lead by supporting them. not feeling the need to steal things and gain power or something

aranea:

trollhandle: ????Avicularia (GA)

avicularia - genus of spiders, specifically tarantulas. idk i thought it sounded cool

godtier

mastermind behind the dirkjake kiss

talks to the kids about classpects but like in a calliope way where it’s a little too literal

pushing jake hard to level up since pages are a “weaker class” (in the same vein of vriska with tavros and also john)

while vriska tries to learn a lot about the game so she can cheat to the end, aranea learns a lot about the game so she can know everything and make the best plan to win.

latula:

trollhandle: calibratingGriptape (CG)

calibrating - parallels terezi’s handle

griptape - grip tape is the material on top of a skateboard

prompted to give dirk relationship advice after seeing the dirkjake kiss. she thought it was very cool

even though kankri “took her place” as dirk’s guide, she still ends up helping dirk more because kankri kind of sucks at it

has a lot of thoughts about being pushed out by kankri but is trying not to show it (rad girl facade, etc)

arc: stop putting on the rad girl persona and be herself

porrim:

Trollhandle: antevortianGirl (AG)

antevorta - roman goddess of childbirth and prophecy

girl - #girl

serves as roxy’s guide/patron troll during the game. helps her with actual game stuff as opposed to meulin who helps her with interpersonal stuff

arc: stop infantalizing everyone below her on hemospectrum, something something matriorb

damara

trollhandle: (AA)

maybe talks to jane about how jake keeps telling her about their relationship and asking for advice, is just like “yeah, it sucks huh”

maybe drops the LE stuff during the alpha session? still causing problems on purpose though

not very invested in the kids, mostly causing problems on the meteor

she gets knocked out before she can doom the timeline, porrim (shes her main friend and also mom stuff) carries her to the door with the group. damara wakes up already locked in the meteor. maybe scratch messages her and tells her she failed and is also like really creepy like always. and then she watches jane stuff and is just like. yeah no this is the worst

jane and damara parallels. they are there

arc: recognize that others have gone through same stuff as her (jane), reject le, tell rufioh to knock it off (probably remain friends after that)(roxy helps), doesn’t have to forgive everyone else for their treatment of her if she doesn’t want to

rufioh:

trollhandle: (TA)

something something dirkjake parallels

dude’s a mess

mituna:

trollhandle: (AT)

actually stands up to cronus

still dubiously godtier

kurloz

trollhandle: (CT)

the stuff kurloz is involved in relates to see no evil (mituna) hear no evil (meulin) speak no evil (kurloz) but according to fridgestuck theres a fourth that's sometimes smell no evil (latula).

also caused cronus’s rejection of magic and belief in the prophecy

meulin and mituna friendship arc

something something kurloz is in charge of black ships and the conflict resolution quadrant is a black ship and kurloz is actively sabotaging them and maybe this is why they can't fix any of their problems at some point we gotta figure out what to do with him

roxy probably suspects somethings up with him (close to meulin and would recognize that she seems forgetful after seeing him, batterwitch), would probably be frustrated that meulin doesn’t believe her but would find ways to keep her away from him

crisis of faith when interacting with humans, leads to him ditching clown religion. no idea where that goes from there

someone figures out the mind control and other stuff, meulin, mituna, and cronus can decide if they forgive him or not

cronus

trollhandle: (AC)

roxy has a conversation with cronus, its bad

he literally JUST dropped the wizard act within the last year or so, so seeing her wizard stuff he probably makes fun of her or something

hates jake because he’s the hero of hope that might take over his place in the prophecies he felt entitled to

jake messes with him about human culture like the “telling caliborn what gay means” thing

leads to him losing ALL hope, leading to mituna fight

cronus hits on all of them and brings up the fact he is humankin a lot

gets the idea to be humankin from watching the timelines, was probably still doing the wizard thing until that moment, or had picked up a different persona in the session and switched to human then

arc: downward spiral from hopelessness (jake), become somewhat less of an asshole

beta humans

stuck in a void session for 6 years

in communication with the cherubs

egbert:

sprite:

 pre-retcon: ?? + ??

post-retcon: meulin + dirksprite (after reunion)

acting like there are no problems while actively looking at many problems

june realization at some point

rose:

sprite:

pre-retcon: ?? + ??

post-retcon: roxy + frigglishsprite (after reunion)

having a crisis about relevance

is painfully aware that this session is basically set up to make them lose their minds

drinking arc (mom’s alcohol in house)

dave:

sprite: crow + doomed dave

plays with time loops a little but realizes he’s making eternity even longer so stops unless necessary

still does a lot of reflection about bro since he'd still be around people who care about him

coming out: rose knows pre-game but they probably never officially told each other. maybe he tells her in like year 1 or 2. but he doesn't come out to the others until he's like 17 at least probably. davesprite too

at some point he grows out his hair really long, but it’s totally not to look like nic cage so a certain someone who loves nic cage might be interested who would do that

(crushing big time on egbert)

jade:

sprite: bec + dream jade

happy to be around her friends and not trapped on an island, but she is also super frustrated that it isn't like what she saw in her dreams

first one to snap after keeping her frustration bottled up. after that, rose sets a rule that they have to be honest to avoid more of that. (obviously they don’t stick to that very well)

i guess she godtiers at some point to be dog

cherubs

calliope:

friendly to all of them

probably just similar to how she was to the alphas

(she probably still has to die 🙁)

they will save her

caliborn:

jeers dave the most

is upset that he is not like alpha male

kickstarts dave’s de-masculinity stuff

asks dave for art of his friends

dave just changes the colors of the making this happen picture

platonically hates all of them. if he does the "you're attractive and ugly" thing like with jane, that's at jade

egbert really hates his art

similar to the alphas, mostly focuses on the boys and avoids/is creepy to the girls. probably pissed about june stuff cus he sucks

[cure-typhoon]

Do you have any more singing voice headcanons for the dancestors or cherubs?

Hmm yeah sure why not

Calliope - Okey so I feel like she has a very pretty voice but is very shy at singing so her singing is not really good? I feel like she would like humming/singing more on her own than singing in front of other people

Caliborn - Has never singing before and probably thinks it's something stupid because his sister likes it, I feel like he sounds like an entitled brat when singing but has a pretty voice as well

Kankri - The Vantas who can actually sing, he probably got lucky because he has no experience singing and just has a good voice when singing, but he barely does it because he thinks there's more interesting things to do

Damara - I don't think she likes to sing in front of other people, if she does she probably only does it to bother everyone else from her friend group and just screams absolutely everything. She probably has a nice voice but I doubt she will let anyone hear it

Rufioh - I think he has a pretty voice and is very charismatic when singing. He use to sing duos with Damara and was probably one of the few people who has heard her voice

Mituna - He never singed well but man is he having the time from his life singing

Meulin - I don't think she was ever a good singer but she liked to hum to herself and to "play instruments" with her fingers even if she can't hear it anymore

Porrim - I think she is a very good singer, it was something she liked to do when she was young and now does while she is bored. She also has that monotone voice that Kanaya has but she knows how to sing so it's fine

Latula - She is not really good at it and also kinda hates it but sings with Mituna from time to time but only if it's the two of both

Aranea - I don't think she has a sensational voice or anything, it's a little better than average but she has fun humming on her own

Horuss - He is very Bad at singing and I really doubt he would sing on his own but Rufioh has convinced him a couple of times

Kurloz - Before his accident he had a pretty nice voice and would sing with Meulin

Cronus - He is a good singer but he has such a smug aura around him when he does that nobody likes to listen it

Meenah - I don't think singing is something she would be interested, I feel like she had singing classes when she was a kid and hated them but probably has a nice voice because of it

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Im bored so I am once again talking about stuff I barely understand\d and Im too scared to talk to the hs discord cause it feels like others make me uncomfy cause their fixed morals and actual ability to understand and explain things better than me lmao.

How I see my class and aspect as a thief of void

(alos may talk about lunar sway (mine is prospit leaning), read to find out!!)

woah okay sooo im gonna start with aspect cause that's easier for me to understand and explain why i think it's litterally me.

the voidy stuff!

so the only ways Ive seen void explained is "confusion, unaware, subjectivity" and vague stuff like that whish uh, yeah it's right ig, both light and void are based around their own understanding of things. but it feels like others focus too much on that. void players tend to be confident in what they do understand(or at least I am), even if it may not be a lot or very useful.

cannon examples being: equius with robots, roxy with actually quite a bit(others relationships, the window things, ect.) uhh cant remember any void players lmfao,

also another thing people tend to ignore is that they are hard to understand/ make sense of. once again with equius just overall being veiwed as "oh no, its THAT guy" and roxy just cannonically being imposible to explain/read by dirk. also he never even asked??? so that's part of the issue people dont just ask, most void players would just answer if people asked. like dude??? we dont fucking hide how we feel, its just that others dont even like, put in effort to know. alsowhile im kinda on a tangent about how people dont ask, void players are kinda like "dont ask, dont tell." (haha refference to homophobia) unless they see it as important or relavant. I alos just dont have a lot of oppinions on things that do actually affect me, but that is prolly jsut more of a me thing than void as a whole.

(btw, I am going to take a quick break to go pee before I get into my class, and I will not reread this till after I post it, so I may think of things I wanna change or add, which means i will prolly just be reblogging it everytime i think of somethign knew lmfao)

uh Thevft thievery and tax fraud

(my laptop is overheating slightly, i only have three tabs open)

okay quick thing on why Im not a witch and why I think online quizes keep forcing that apon me with some random ass aspect (THE ASPECT CHANGES ALMOST EVERY TIME :SOB: )

witches tend to not understand that they're doing something wrong/ they just see that what they're doing MIGHT help them, so they do it. they over all do their best to do what they think makes sense without like trying to explain why it makes sense ig(?) witches also dont seem to have many strong oppinions on others outside of every one of their friends is the best, or every one else is either unimportant and does not matter enough to even CONSIDER taking into account when coming up with a possibly confusing plan. while thief's tend to get ahead of themselves they do understand that a complicated plan can go wrong WAY more than a simple one, arvhams razor or whatever.

as explained in the silly brochure thingy that i have spent too much time rereading (lnked on the masterlist thing for classpecting posts in pinned thingy) thief's are also working on higher stakes. focused on an end goal instead of the specifics of what leads us there. which unfortunately leads us to completely ignoring why and who we might've hurt to get us to the end goal. also in the brochure thing it mentioned how thief's work against what they think is how society works (?) (meenah wanting to live on a moon cause of reasons I cant remember, and vriska just in general viewing people as just boring or unimportant) for a thief, theirs them and then theirs everyone else with zero overlap. when a thief get's to close to being like their perception of everyone else they force themselves out of it so it becomes a weird cycle of "woah these people are great" and "these people are making me soft, uhoh gotta fix that"

when in relation to my lunar sway, I'm a prospitian. (woagh) which yikes black and white thinking, and I think i fucking need a good reason for doing things. or at least a reason I think is good. lmao

prospit theif of void(conclusion??)

all together I tend to get uncomfy with people actually understanding and being set on things ESSPECIALLY MORALS. i overall view most people as more mature than me. as in they understand what they view as bad. I like philosophy and the open ended questions that come with it. I'm not really attached to any specific religion or ideas. I do like absurdism on solipsism though. subjectivity is a huge thing for me, it's just that others usually are super strict on what they see as real or true. honestly my only rules/morals for myself are dont hurt others unless it's necessary, and anything is okay as long as you feel good about it and arent ACTUALLY hurting others (as in fuck around and find out, BUT DO NOT ACTUALLY TOUCH OR INTERACT WITH PEOPLE WHO TOUCH REAL KIDS OR ANIMALS YOU SICKF UCK)

anyways uh yeah im a theif of void, i am making all of thisup based on a game thing that didnt even explain it properly in the og webcomic.

I love you (/??) bye