#(I'll love the fan fiction and fan comics anyway)

[ariaverde]

I want you all to know that I want to post Danganronpa related things really, really badly, but I fucking can't because I'm not through all the games or the anime yet, and so I have the tag and related tags blacklisted to avoid spoilers.

But you can bet your ass that the second I can, my followers will be drowning in Danganronpa for weeks.

[intermundia]

(Star Wars: Crimson Reign #3 - The Archivist)

the concept of jedi as celebrities is so interesting to me, mostly because they're monks of an order whose philosophy is grounded on egoless service and humility. one jedi should be roughly the same as any other when sent on a mission, because the jedi serve the force. there may be slight differences in methodologies, yes, but fundamentally, they're not there to make a name for themselves as anything other than as representatives of the jedi order.

but of COURSE it makes sense that the galaxy would be obsessed with them. a mysterious group of wizards who use flashy swords and make peace through persuasive words and heroic deeds? of course people wrote books about them, watched shows about them, adults gossiped about them, and kids pretended to be them when playing. so the question of how all that knowledge was wiped away within a generation is a good one, and the comic presents a good answer:

(Star Wars: Crimson Reign #3 - The Archivist)

the earnest goodness of the jedi comes across to many as sanctimonious. they're too responsible with their power, too cool and restrained. they don't lash out with anger on behalf of those they love, you know? they don't smile enough, too serious. they're seen as the embodiment of "we have food at home" energy. the reality of the canonical order as gentle and joyful, surprisingly playful and open, isn't sexy enough to redeem their moral authority.

based on my inbox and the way people respond to some of my posts about the jedi, the resentment that this engenders in the population of the GFFA feels very real. there is actual HATRED directed toward this fictional group, irrational and out of all proportion. the comic suggests that people jump to hate those who make them feel guilty and self-conscious, because lashing out absolves yourself of confronting the reason you secretly know you'd be judged and found wanting, and that seems accurate.

i would insert a thousand examples here of the jedi not deserving this reputation, but the canon behavior of the jedi doesn't matter, the galaxy cheered as they died anyway and lots of fans love to hate on them. the mere concept of them and their philosophy is enough to alienate people, and i think that's a shame, but understandable. i'll love them enough to make up for it haha

[cowboylikeyouu]

why does everybody hate mcu clint so much??? i’ve read his comics but i still love jeremy renner’s portrayal of him and stuff :(

like i can understand being disappointed in some ways about how the character was changed for the movies, but i can’t understood all the hate for him

for me, personally, it's not that mcu clint is a bad character per se, it's really just the fact that he doesn't feel like clint barton. give him any other name and he's a fine character, but compare him to comic clint and they're in NO WAY the same person.

on one hand you have that responsible, serious husband and well adjusted father of three, who cracks a joke here and there but takes everything pretty serious most of the time, who has his life under control, while everyone else on the team is a mess. he doesn't have that much of a personality, no weird habits or (dis)likes, he really fades in comparison to other team members like tony, who's lines are always on point and who gets a back story and everything.

on the other hand there's this 6'3" disaster of a human being, who lives for coffee, dogs, tv shows and nothing else, is obsessed with purple for no reason at all, grew up in a circus after he escaped his abusive dad, can't take anything seriously and cracks the funniest joke all the fucking time, even makes fun of captain america on a regular basis (at least in the early avengers comics), runs away from himself and responsibility, fucks up nearly all of his relationships because he really sucks at emotions, but then forms those really precious bonds with people like kate, and who's just kind of an asshole really, but simultaneously a fucking ray of sunshine. plus he's deaf and we always love some representation. oh, and mcu clint is like the straightest guy ever, and then there's comic clint who is just so easy to headcanon as this bisexual disaster, and we all know how much fandom loves a queer coded character.

so, the mcu basically took away every fun part of the awesome character that is clint barton and it SUCKS. i really don't hate movie clint as his own character, i just hate hate HATE the fact that he's supposed to be THE clint barton because he IS NOT, and he'll never be. i'm sorry, but jeremy renner just can't pull it off, i'll never understand how they saw bigger-than-steve, blond-mess, purple-loving, coffee-addict comic clint and where like: "oh yeah, let's cast 5' 9" jeremy renner and give his character a huge, healthy family, and no mental health problems, that's just perfect😍"

it's just so sad to be aware of the awesomeness of comic clint and then watch the movies because you're constantly thinking "oh what could've been..." if they did comic accurate movie clint, he'd definitely be a fan-favourite and we'd have tons of edits, and ships, and merchandise, but NO, most mcu fans just forget about him or don't find him special or entertaining (bc his mcu version really really isn't) and he gets left out of all the casual merchandise you can find in random shops (i literally have an album on my phone that's dedicated to photos i took of cheap avengers merchandise with the "o6" avengers sans clint lmao)

you're obviously allowed to love movie clint and jeremy's portrayal, that's great!!! i was an mcu fan way before i even knew just how different comic clint was, and i loved mcu clint so much back then! but after reading the comics and thousands of fanfiction, i'm just really really angry that there isn't a good live action on screen representation of my all time favourite fictional character, and i think many people feel the same :(

okay, i think i'm done lmao.

anyways, shout out to avengers assemble clint, my one true love <3 the mcu should take notes.

[bloggingboutburgers]

First of, I'm a big fan of your work. I love your comics and art and was happy to hear about the engagement 😁

As for my question, I love writing stories and creating OCs/characters. In your recent comic you called out that the only ace/aro rep always seems to be "the creator said so on Twitter" (a problem with a lot of rep. in media).

So I was curious, if I wanted to create an aroace character (and write a story with them), how could I naturally show them being aroace? Do you perhaps have any idea?

Thank you so much for the kind words!^^

Arguably my complaints are ironic because I myself haven't done proper aroace rep in my own fiction thus far – though I guess I'm compensating for that with my current comics, haha 🙈 But also, I've said it before and I'll say it again cus I'm annoying like that – Bojack Horseman did it, in my opinion, so that gives the rest of the media less excuses I guess.

So, again these are my personal views, and they're possibly demanding, but this would be my checklist for ideal aroace rep:

The aro/ace character needs to... BE a character. Actually have arcs, that matter within the story. Whether they're about being asexual or not doesn't really matter as long as THEY matter as a character.

...Ngl I feel they need to matter BEFORE they're revealed as aro/ace too, and obviously after. If they don't, they'll just feel like a placeholder who's just there to tick a box to me.

The fact that they're aro/ace needs to be addressed and not pushed under the rug or left up to interpretation. Leaving things up to interpretation will have so many people interpret them as allo for sure (just like in real life). And conversely, saying they're aro/ace may spark some curious questions and possibly awkward conversations (just like in real life). (...Again tbh Bojack Horseman was great at doing it naturally. The confusion from the ace character themself, the ace character's friend assuming they're gay because yeah that always happens, the MC having a friendly yet clueless "haha you're lucky that'd save me so many problems if I didn't have sexual attraction"... I could go on.)

By that I also mean... Actually NAMING the orientation at some point. If it's not named people who consume the media and don't know such an orientation exists will be none the wiser. (I'm guilty of that myself tbh. In one of my webcomics I had an alloaro character but never had the orientation mentioned within the story, I left it at showing he has sex and him having a conversation with his family explaining he doesn't have a favorite person because he just can't, but I feel like that's not enough, and I've been feeling a bit bad about it.) A good way of bringing that up fairly naturally would be to have the character figure out their orientation within the story, as a way to have the audience learn alongside them; but it could also be played for drama, which I don't think I've ever seen and would like to dabble with myself at some point – like, imagine you have a friend you hold dear who's key to your personal development and suddenly you find out they see you as sex / romance prospects and not as a friend like YOU do? That'd be crushing but that could definitely make for a good conflict. I should try writing that. I'm rambling anyway. Bleh.

Another thing that, to me, is key to the aro/ace experience is that the character may have some moments of questioning their place in the world. Our world is obsessed with sex and romance and fiction exacerbates that to the point where some characters barely even exist if they don't have romance. This could range from "Do I NEED to even identify myself as something" (again, Bojack Horseman did that great) to "Friendship is the most important relationship to me but not to my friends, what if they all abandon me once they find the one person they consider 'more important'". I dunno. I feel like there could be some interesting storylines there. I definitely would love to dabble into that myself a bit more, though I lack the time and talent – those concepts and the lack of things that are done with it live in my head rent-free.

...Actually I feel it could be good to show aro/ace characters as full of heart (if it fits their personality), having their own feelings and emotions outside of the usual romance spectrum, to show that they're just as human and compelling as the other characters. (...AGAIN Bojack Horseman did that great imo, I feel bad that I'm only ever quoting that show but that's still the best example I can ever think of.) Like – betrayal, loneliness, grief, kinship, literally ANY other form of love than romantic love... We feel all of those too (aside from people who don't experience any form of attraction at all, in fairness), and those deserve to be addressed in stories just as much (if not more) than the pining or simping that's kinda everywhere.

Oh yeah and speaking of being human... Yeah, human. We need more human aro/ace characters. Making it so that only the aliens/gods/demons/robots/whatever are ever allowed to be aro/ace only serves to dehumanize these orientations.

...IIIII think that's it. I might be forgetting some things I'd wanna add on later but I think that covers everything that would make for ideal rep in my own opinion

[billowingangel]

Honey, I changed us into animals

During a G8 or maybe a whole world meeting, England gets pissed at France or someone and is like "I'll turn you into a frog, you frog!" (Yeah he's probably mad at France) and he waves his cartoonishly comical wand but whoops! They all became their national animal!

England - Lion

France - Gallic Rooster

America - Bald Eagle

Russia - Eurasian Brown Bear

China - Giant Panda

Germany - Golden Eagle

Italy - Italian Wolf

Japan - Green Pheasant

Canada - Beaver

So now 8 obviously wild and some exotic animals are all now in a confrerence room. They're somehow able to communicate with each other but to regular humans or nations it just sounds like animal noises. They can't get out of the room and it's pretty crowded with a Brown Bear, Panda Bear and Lion.

America is flying by the ceiling having the time of his life. He's like woohoo!! I'm flying!! Awesome!!

And France, Japan, and Canada are slightly panicking because they're the three smallest animals and there's like 5 carnivores around them.

Canada's like at least you can fly! And France is like no I can't I'm a putain de coq gaulois!

China also wants to help and find a way for them to get out because then maybe they can find a Nation that actually knows magic, but all he is doing is rolling and falling over. Pandas are cute but being one sucks! I knew fortune cookie today was bad luck!

Russia is obviously loving it!

Germany's trying to get control of the situation

Italy's just baffled, all of you are your official national animals right? Germany's like duh italy your so stupid 🤓🫵 Italy is like but I don't have an official animal! why am I the wolf (he doesn't know it's like the official unofficial animal) and then Germany is just baffled too and they both have printer noises in their heads

Anyway, I thought that would be a fun fan fiction idea. I could totally see something stupid like this happening in canon. It's only a matter of time, there's Nekotalia. Get ready for thistalia.

[prettyboysdontlookatexplosions]

medialog june 2k24

watched

wordplay - rewatched this documentary about crosswords and particularly about the annual crossword tournament put on by will shortz while waiting for the anesthesia from my wisdom tooth extraction to wear off and found it about as charming as i remembered... i love a doc about a subculture made up of endearing nerds. i first saw it when it came out and on revisit it also has some intensely 2004 vibes - in particular jon stewart shows up as one of their crossword-fans talking heads and it really brought home for me how influential he was on the development of internet tone (like to this day the reason so many people on reddit sound Like That is because they're trying to be jon stewart and failing...)

the bourne ultimatum - movie go zoom zoom! still not convinced matt damon can act

artists and models - i had never seen a dean martin/jerry lewis film before and i don't really want to again but i'm glad i saw this one (this is how i feel about the two (2) wes anderson movies i've seen, and also pulp fiction & tarantino). some great colors & costumes, a plot that goes surprisingly bonkers in a final third turn that reminds you it was the cold war (between that and all the stuff about comics & violence this one also functions as a real time capsule), and (my main reason for watching) shirley maclaine the love of my life is so adorable and funny as a daffy sweetheart in a role that really lets her (a former dancer) show off her gift for physical comedy.

the secret garden - the cast in this movie is so good, including the children in the starring roles, and while it doesn't even attempt to do anything with the book's deranged relationship with things like the british empire and the concept of disability, watching it really did bring me back to why the book has been so beloved - the fantasy at its heart is ultimately about hard humble work paying off and about friends teaching each other to be nicer, which are i think deeply appealing narratives for children in a way that people sometimes forget. it's so funny that part of what cures mary and colin of their bad personalities is meeting another unhappy rich child for the very first time!

humanist vampire seeking consenting suicidal person - this was slight but sweet, a darkly funny romcom with some style and heart. also i had never seen a french-canadian movie before i don't think and it was a fun surprise to hear them talking like "frenchfrenchfrenchfrenchRRRRfrenchfrenchRRRR." not an accent with which i have much familiarity!

jurassic park - my somewhat inexplicable, even to me, aversion to raiders of the lost ark had me avoiding action spielberg for basically my whole life but i gave this a shot thinking maybe i would appreciate it if not enjoy it and was absolutely GLUED to the screen from about five minutes in. i understand why other directors are like that about spielberg now, and also what jj abrams is trying to do all the time and failing because he doesn't understand how it actually works. this is like the most famous movie in the world basically and i've seen so many clips from it over the years and yet even waiting for them and expecting them to come i was ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT! like WOW! truly a movie that feels like a theme park ride more than any other i've seen except maybe fury road. anyway as you statistically speaking probably already know this movie absolutely rocks, and not just for (1) laura dern and (2) jeff goldblum with his tits out.

citizen kane - spent the last weekend in june at two different marches & closed it out sunday night with a screening of the movie that made me bisexual <3 one day i'll figure out a way to articulate how this movie did what it did to me but for now i will just say that it is great and its reputation is deserved and orson welles is one of the most entertaining screen presences of all time and it looks so cool and beautiful all the way through and it is so so so so gay

interview with a vampire season 2 - my opinion on this is at this point well established lol finally some good fucking food!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

read

megan abbott, the turnout - this & the zadie smith book are further steps in me catching up with authors i lost track of during some bad reading years! when i heard that megan abbott was coming out with a book about sisters who run a ballet school i was like LOL because that's like the peak ultimate megan abbott premise (girls and the nastiness of both feelings and bodies and ambition and hunger and an atmosphere of nightmares and filth and the insane dynamics of a tightly knit but deeply dysfunctional world, all to the nth power), and guess what as a megan abbott fan i loved it :) all the bad reviews on goodreads for this are like "why is this book so gross? why is she sexualizing the nutracker? there were scenes in this book that made me feel dirty reading them. way too much focus on the wet leotard crotches of little girls" and i was sickos dot jpg the whole time. but actually i think the reason that this wound up being my favorite abbott since dare me is that at its core it's a book about a woman with an unbelievably fucked up childhood due to her incredibly fucked up dead parents and the suspense that gives the book its tension and its form is less about what's going to happen with the plot and more about whether she is at any point going to put it together that the things that happened to her when she was young were actually bad; the further the book goes, the more deeply you understand the walls of denial and distortion around her entire life. it rules.

david j. skaal, something in the blood: the untold story of bram stoker, the man who wrote dracula - as previously mentioned, i have some real qualms with some of his dracula readings, but overall i found this an addictively pleasurable tome - 600 pages and he kept them turning the whole time. i love a biography that starts off with some background on medieval ireland, you know? skaal is a good writer with an engaging but learned style, and the book is clearly both exhaustively researched and intended for popular audiences (albeit popular audiences who have definitely read dracula, but, i mean, who else is reading 600 pages about this guy?); reading it often feels something like having a drink with a professor who knows his stuff and is NOT afraid to gossip. dracula qualms aside i may investigate some of his other books, particularly his book on dracula screen adaptations, since i'm curious about those but don't necessarily want to, like, watch most of them, lol

bonnie jo campbell, the waters - book club book that was objectively certainly not terrible and which had some things i did like or appreciate, like an 11 year old girl obsessed with math (representation matters...) but which i found just about the most boring thing i have read in my life. like i would definitely say campbell is a better writer than, say, taylor jenkins reid (to name another book club book) or whatsherface who wrote the book of fried green tomatoes which we also read las year... but i found those books much more aggravating but also easier to get through than this book, which really requires you to have some level investment in, like, the natural world of rural michigan, but mostly made me feel so glad i don't live in a small town where all the men have guns.

zadie smith, swing time - it's funny because when i started this i was spending a lot of time thinking about how maybe plot and structure have become underrated, but then this was like a very long book written in the style of someone just kind of talking at you about their life, with plot events technically happening but never feeling like the driving force of the book, and i was totally riveted, which was a good reminder that you can get away with anything if you're a genius! smith is just such a keen observer of people and how they operate, and so allergic to relying on any kind of obvious assumptions about the relationships between demographics & personality or beliefs, even as demographic realities are such a key part of the fabric of the book... i was a little worried i would be disappointed by the fact that she abandoned the modernist-leaning experimentation of NW for a more straightforward, even chatty, style, but "you can get away with it if you're a genius" applies to that too. this book is also an absolute masterclass in the universal through the specific - i cannot emphasize how much literally not one thing the protagonist experiences has ever happened to me, how much our lives and backgrounds and personalities overlap not at all, and yet constantly i found myself aching with resonance over things like "it's so true that's what it's like when you have a mom" or "that really is what it feels like when you are young and sort of smart but also sort of stupid" (which if i were to define it briefly is i think more or less what the book is about).

listened

charli xcx, brat - i remain after all these years a true romance truther and continue unfairly to measure all her subsequent work, much of which is frankly too sophisticated and experimental for my listening taste even if i recognize she's Doing Something, but this album sounds great and has some bops. as a straight-through listen it was too rich for my blood, but i find myself enjoying the songs on shuffle mixed in with whatever else i've been into more than i would have expected from that first exposure, and also 360 has been stuck in my head more waking hours than not for like a month and a half now and i'm still not sick of it (although i think my favorite song on the album is 365, and not just because i think it's really funny that she ended the album with "the opening track coming out of the bathroom after doing cocaine"). plus as someone who HAS been listening to charli since whenever the video for "you're the one" dropped it is nice to see The Culture finally rally around her even if i remain a little puzzled over why now, the all-star remixes getting rolled out have been pretty delightful (LORDE!!!!!!!!), and it's nice to have the zeitgeist coalesce for a moment over something i too think is fun (especially since the other thing gay people love this summer is chappell roan on whom i have yet to be converted sorry to everyone i'm sincerely glad you're having a good time)

[jetsteelyourheart]

My top 5 Crackships

Inspired by my top 5 8 characters thing going around, I want you all to vote on your favorite of my Top 5 Questionable Rare pairs

I will be providing excuses reasoning excuses below the poll, so if you feel like roasting me properly seeing my justifications, do that - or don't!

And remember, they're fictional characters, so it costs nothing to be normal about this and have fun

*Not all of these are controversial, but those that are? watch out!

Excuses:

Zuki:

If you follow me then you know I'm an OG Zutara fan, but on the rare occasions I'm feeling Cannon Compliant, Zuki is my go too ship. This has all to do with the comics, where basically Zuko's only confidant is Suki and you get wild panels of them looking at each other like this:

I was devistated when Korra came out and it seemed like Sokka and Suki didn't last, but if the above is why, then I'll take it.

Stobin:

I am going to get so much flack for this one I think. BUT. Consider: The cannon ships in the show are generally not well written. I like Hopper/Joyce, I like Max/Lucas, but Nancy/Jonathan and especially Mike/Eleven do literally nothing for me, they are so bland. I do see the irony that one of the things that makes Stobin well written is because its one sided on Steve's part because Robin is gay. But their interactions are literally the reason to watch the show if you ask me. Pushing past these excuses though, I just kinda dig the ship. In my head its an open poly situation for certain, but sexuality is so wild and fluid and weird, and Gold Star status is gatekeepy at best anyway, so like, why the fuck not. I had a great aunt who had an open marriage with a gay man, (big beard behavior) and they had kids and did everything together. Its like... Platonic soulmates + if you will. And that's what I want for Stobin. Platonic soulmates + and a big ole polycule surrounding them. Or maybe its just my incoherent bisexual ass talking

(If I could put fan-art with the polycule in it I would but I wouldn't repost someones art like that... so I'm stuck with cannon images)

Zacknei:

No one has played this game. When people think Zack, they either ship Cloud or Aerith, and honestly I ship both those as well (though ClAerTi will always be my top for them). But I love Cissnei. She has big Sydney Sage energy for me, and all of Zack's emotional beats in the second half of the game surround her (...or cloud) not Aerith (just for the record). Also if you join all the fanclubs and work hard you get invited to your own fanclub and I'm pretty sure there's evidence that Cissnei is the president which is hilarious. I just love their interactions and was DEVASTATED at the end. Analytical Girl & PuppyDogHimbo is a beautiful ship dynamic. Also Rick Gomez will always be my Zack Fair VA. I hate the new guy so much (and its not his fault!! Sorry man!)

Aquarella:

So the section is really short. But my god. Cinderella and Aqua have the most chemistry of any character in that game series bar none. I'm including Riku and Sora in this. I'm including Roxas and Axel. Ok, not really this is not the hill I want to die on. BUT. At least in Birth By Sleep, this is the emotional high-point. Aqua taking her hand like a gentleman at a ball? The way Aqua saves Cinderella from getting run over by her demonic carriage??? The way she lovingly protects Cindy's body with hers? Did you see Prince whats his face doing any of that ? NO. And then. If Aqua were a guy everyone would've seen it when this game came out (but I guess gay people weren't invented until 2015 or whatever.

look how devastated Aqua is when Cinderella goes to Charming at the end. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THEM.

Sorayla:

I really do like Raylum, but this is a poll on my hot take rare-pairs, not cannon compliance. Let me start off by saying, no, I haven't seen this season yet, it only came out twelve hours ago whats wrong with you? This pair grew on me starting in Season 4 after the time skip. I think it goes along side my preoccupation with tough smart girls and their dumbass golden retriever himbos. They have a nice trajectory, and with Callum going a lil dark and edgy on us recently, I like their banter a lot. Especially in Season 4 I was surprised by them and I crave more adventures with the two of them alone. I don't think it will ever happen, but I like it none the less. They bring a certain... Sokka & Suki vibe to the party that I'm here for.

Anyway, I tag @ebbilayart @retiredficwriter & anyone who decides to do it!

And if no one feels like setting themselves up as a target, that's good too!

[novankenn]

So... I have a Question for you...

Firstly I'll straight up be honest. As I said in a earlier Spider-Man one shot I haven't bee following or buying the books for years. Partially because of not having access - No comic store in the NWT Hamlet I was living in for the twenty-plus years, and two because I was busy just adulting and weathering mental health issues and relationship problems.

So anyway, I've recently come into the whole OMD, OMIT, and the MJ/Paul arcs through reddit, tumblr and You-tube. I personally find the whole set-up disgusting and pathetic. Not that I can say much because I'm sure some of my characterizations in my own works have probably done the same to loved characters.

But I have this idea percolating in my head, for a multi-chapter Spider-Man fan-fiction.

Title: Just Peter...

Synopsis: -Peter has finally had enough of not only suffering for his "hero" persona, but also interacting with MJ. He steps away... but is it for good?

Plot Points: -Peter has finally had enough, and after one final conversation with MJ where Peter finally let's her have it about the whole situation involving recent events... he walks away, severing contact.

-MJ's and Paul's relationship has become rocky, as MJ in her "grief" over the loss of her "children" starts to question how real her relationship with Paul is/was. She notices things, like his almost lack of regret over his actions in his home world. How he spent time making the "Jackpot" bracelet instead of creating another device to bring them back to 616.

-Peter still feeling regret and sorrow takes a break from being a hero, to sort out his own feelings and to make an accounting of his "heroic" actions, and their consequences. While sitting in a bar nursing a beer he sees one of the waitresses (Samantha "Sam" Andrews) getting harassed and before he can step in the woman takes care of herself and the bouncers step in to end the confrontation.

-Peter starts to go to the bar as a regular, and strikes up a friendly relationship with Sam, who notices his depressed mood/attitude and decides impulsively to invite him out to a club, to cheer him up.

Characters: Peter Parker/Spider-Man Samantha "Sam" Andrews Mary Jane Watson/Jackpot Paul (minor/mentioned)?

Other Thoughts: -Can Peter find happiness with someone other than MJ? -Are MJ and Paul a "true" couple or is it all an illusion -Will Peter give-up his alter ego? Have all his actions been worth the pain and mistreatment?

Question to You Guys/Gals... Would you even want to read something like this? Please comment about what you think about this whole "story" and what I possible consider adding/removing.

[crusherthedoctor]

Hot take: humanizing a villain =/= giving him sympathetic traits. One of my favorite ways the games have humanized Eggman is by giving him a love for amusement parks. We can headcanon all the reasons why he enjoys them so much (and I like that one page in IDW where he says "If I want my enemies' last moments to be carousel music and the smell of petroleum-based cotton candy, that's what I'll make happen", that's a nice explanation), but at the end of the day, it's just a silly cute trait that tells us Eggman is a joyous manchild who is having a blast in his quest for world domination. Doesn't erase his various war crimes :P but he feels more rounded (hehe) as a character.

Strongly agree | Agree | Neutral | Disagree | Strongly disagree

Said it time and time again: some of the most widely beloved villains throughout all forms of fiction - video games, movies, comics, anime, you name it - have little-to-no sympathetic qualities or moral standards, and a big reason for why they become favourites anyway (aside from how enjoyable they are in their blatant villainy) is because they manage to be fascinating or nuanced in other ways. You can have a villain who is openly evil, proud of being openly evil, and kicks dogs every minute for the lulz, but what's stopping you from giving them a history? What's stopping you from going full character study and delving into how they work their evil magic, and in what specific ways they affect other characters? Sorry to bring up the Paper Mario fic again, but part of the fun I've been having with crafting it is the specific layers of just how Eggman decides to make things needlessly personal with the heroes.

The persistent schoolboy error that writers and fans frequently commit - especially in Eggman's case, much to my eternal grief - is the assumption and YouTube essays claiming that making a villain overtly tragic, or giving them some moral line that they won't cross, is the only possible way you can flesh them out. As you pointed out with your example, villains who are loud and proud about their evil ways can still have other sides of them explored, even if none of it actually softens or redeems them per say. You can give a villain admirable qualities that have nothing to do with their (lack of) morals, such as making them a good planner. Indeed, Eggman already has that and a bunch of other "good" qualities, such as being creative, showing fearlessness, and never giving up, among others. None of it detracts from his certified dipshit and furry executioner status.

And not to be one of those "does fiction affect reality???" goobers, but let's face it: putting the fantastical elements aside, people who don't need a reason to do bad shit do exist in real life. I'm not saying that as a nihilistic doomposter (on the contrary, I hate that shit), but what I mean is, painting every single villain as not-so-bad or just slightly grey is not a very helpful perspective. It's better to acknowledge that people with criminal activity on their hands come in all shapes and sizes, including motive: for every example who has a tragic past, there's another example who did it for the thrill.

[thegoddamnwordsmith]

TMayNT SUPERPOST!

Hey all! I haven't really had a chance to post for TMayNT, which is a bummer, because TMNT is my comfort food.

I know a lot of people who follow me on here may be more familiar with me as a Transformers fan, but I was born in 1983. TMNT has been the constant fictional presence in my life since I was old enough to remember. Moreover, it was the major fiction that I followed through the formative years of my childhood, and while I haven't always been active in fandom spaces or interacting with every part of the franchise, I've always kept that flame burning in my heart and my eyes on what was going on with all things Turtle.

So I'm going to be posting the full month's worth of TMayNT in one post (put under a cut, of course, to spare y'all from having a stretched-out timeline). Also, this will give anyone who's interested a better idea of just what slice of the fandom I'm a part of, which I think is kind of fun.

Anyway, let's get on with the show, shall we?

1 - Your favorite Turtle - This kind of depends on your definition, but if we're just pulling from the Brothers, it's easy: Michelangelo.

He's fun and funny, compassionate and caring, arguably has the biggest heart among all his brothers. Often irreverent and irresponsible, but always dependable. His lack of discipline usually ends up balanced out by his incredible natural ability, and what he lacks in forethought he makes up for in thinking on the fly. I love all the Brothers, but I'll always gravitate towards Mikey first.

If we go outside the green teens, however...

I. Love. Slash. The original action figure was one of the coolest I owned in a toyline made of cool, but it wasn't until the Archie comics that I fell hard for the guy. And while he showed up in other fiction before and after that, when IDW utilized him, he was just an incredible character. Sure, he seems like a violent brute on the outside, but even as far back as the 1987 cartoon version had deeper desires, sentimental longings that were almost at the core of his rage. He's a character that's both straightforward and incredibly layered.

2 - Favorite April

Another easy one, the Archie Comics version.

First, I'm personally a fan of April being an investigative reporter, since it gives her a perfect reason to get into messes that would be on the Turtles' radar. But moreover, where '87 leaned more into April fitting 'damsel in distress' tropes, her evolution in the Adventures comics would set the pattern for future versions of the character. She started learning how to hold her own in a fight, to the point where she was on equal footing with the rest of the crew. She was able to have adventures and plots independent of, or only peripherally involving, the Turtles themselves. She had her own supporting cast and enemies, and even got to have a stable romantic relationship (and not with usual pair-partner Casey Jones)! I feel like any version of April that gets the chance to stand on her own in subsequent TMNT iterations owes at least a little to this Splinter-trained independent reporter.

3 - Favorite henchman

This one is a bit tougher than the last two, only because there's so many to choose from! But I think that Tiger Claw rises above all the others.

He is dangerous. He is ruthless. He is loyal. And worst of all, he is competent. You have a lot of villainous characters that can use at least one of those words to describe them. But Tiger Claw uses them all. Armed to the teeth, well-trained, and able to take even major injuries in stride, Tiger Claw is one of the most terrifying soldiers to work under The Shredder in any continuity.

4 - Baby Turtles!

Look at these little guys and tell me that they aren't the cutest Baby Turtles we've ever gotten.

5 - Best Leo (all incarnations)

A bit of an odd pull, but I feel like 2007 Leonardo was a great examination of the character, specifically how much his sense of responsibility and his perfectionism both drive him, and get in his own way.

Also the absolute delight he has in the final fight when he gets thrown into a room full of swords.

6 - Favorite mutant ally

My immediate go-to is to say "The Mighty Mutanimals" as a whole, specifically the original Archie iteration of the team. However, if we want to narrow it down to a singular character among them, it would likely be Jack Finney, AKA Man Ray/Ray Fillet.

A former marine biologist and ecological activist, Man Ray was not someone you wanted to make an enemy of. Honestly, the only reason he didn't have a body count was because of the people he hung out with. Man Ray felt that the ends often justified the means, if the ends were protecting the lives and environments of sea-dwelling creatures, and was not above using theft and violence to reach those goals. But even with all that, he was shown to be incredibly loyal, and even forgiving of those who genuinely wanted to make up for their mistakes.

7 - Best Turtle gadget

Does 2012 Metalhead count? Because if so, 2012 Metalhead.

8 - Favorite Turtle + ally dynamic

Raphael and Ninjara, again from the Archie comics. Aside from how much I was a fan of their romance, their relationship was one of mutual respect and appreciation for their strengths, but also being willing to call each other out when the need arose. The two genuinely made a great team whenever they went into action together.

9 - Best Raph (all incarnations)

This one is a tie, because the 2012 version of Raph is my favorite of all the major incarnations of the character.

Unlike many other versions before him, 2012 Raph was much more nuanced. He was angry, sure, as the character often is, but he also really loved his family. He's got a warm heart that he does share, just with a select few. He goes on multiple journeys of growth and change, and they stick as the series progresses. Also, he loves animals so much.

But of all the versions of Raph, my hands-down favorite is Future Raph, from the Archie comics. Older, wiser, having mellowed with age but still having that fire inside. He settled down into a somewhat calm life, got married, ran a restaurant, and still helped his brothers take care of the bad stuff going on in the city. He also lost an eye to Armaggon, learned to handle Leo's swords as a hobby, straight-up shot someone who threatened his family, and decked Hitler while time-traveling with his brothers.

How can you not love him?

10 - Favorite Turtle curseword

"Shell," for its sheer versatility.

11 - Favorite Splinter

2012 Splinter hits the perfect balance of wise master, trained ninja warrior, and caring father for me. Not only is he willing to take on any threat to his family, but he can fight on surprisingly equal footing with many of their foes, even the Shredder depending on the situation. He has the patience and wisdom to train April, put up with Casey, and even calm down characters like Leatherhead and Slash, who could easily (and even accidentally) cause him major harm. And yet, this is a father who has a cheese-themed phone for the boys to call him on "for emergencies."

12 - Best Turtle vehicle

The Turtle Van. The original and still the best.

13 - Best Don (all incarnations)

Something that always fascinates me with Donatello is how often he gets put into "crisis of faith" stories of a sort, usually putting his scientific mind at odds with magical or supernatural forces beyond his understanding. Nowhere is this more pronounced than with the Archie version.

Over the course of the series, Donnie ended up seeing Izanagi and Izanami intervene in mortal affairs, speak to the manifestations of yin and yang, encounter an entire world that existed out-of-time in the center of the Earth, speak with an elemental spirit of the Earth while being present for the events of Columbus' landing in 1492, and had his mind opened to the infinity of the cosmos when he held the Turnstone. All of this made him a much more subdued and grounded version of himself than many other iterations, without a doubt.

14 - Favorite Turtle movie

I love when the Brothers are written the most like teenagers, and nowhere did that hit the best than in Mutant Mayhem.

Not only that, this one had the unenviable job of having to manage a large cast without the story feeling bloated... and it succeeded. As a lifelong fan, this movie hit all of my notes and then some. I can't wait to see where things go from this one.

15 - Best Karai

Once again we go to 2012, as this version of Karai had some incredible complexities to her, both in her character and in her origins. The connections between her, Shredder, Splinter, and the Turtles made her entire character arc incredible.

16 - Favorite episode/issue

The Future Shark Trilogy (TMNT Adventures, Issues #42-#44). Featuring one of the most dangerous threats in the franchise, a time-travel tale that's both fun and has high stakes, and of course, Future Raphael. Runner-up would be "United We Stand, Divided We Fall," from TMNTA #38-#39 and Mighty Mutanimals #6, because it's hard to get over a story where the TMNT, the Mighty Mutanimals, and a handful of their friends and allies face off against Mr. Null and the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

17. Best Mikey (all incarnations)

Above all the various versions of Mikey, the IDW comics have given possibly the most emotionally open and heartfelt version of the character. Mikey befriends humans and mutants alike, and really would rather not have anyone be fighting anyone. He has such a strong moral core that, despite how much he loves his family, he left when he didn't agree with Splinter's more flexible stance on morality when running the Foot Clan. If any one Turtle could bring you to tears with how much of a good person he is, it's this version of Mikey.

18 - Human version of the Turtles

Not something I've dwelled on much! That said, my favorite version(s) have been done by @thisistab so there's that.

19 - Best Casey Jones

A rare 2003 pull! This is the perfect example of Casey being this lovable guy who's also genuinely unhinged. Too many other versions lean into him being a grim vigilante (or a parody thereof), but 2003 showed him at his best - a guy who knows how to weaponize the fact that he's not quite right in the head.

That said, shout out to Rise's Cassandra Jones, for being a very different take on the character, and a refreshing one at that.

20 - Favorite Turtle merch/toy that you own

My copy of the Official Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Treasury, which has a very cool collection of photos of early TMNT merch, including the tabletop miniatures, an assortment of wild tie-in items, and even prototypes of some of the first Playmates figures. This thing is well-worn and will leave my possession when I die.

21 - Favorite Shredder

The 2012 version has been both the most human, and the most monstrous, version of the character to date. He walks a very thin line of invoking feelings of hatred, pity, fear, and sympathy. He is an aging man, trained in the ways of warfare and assassination, who refuses to let go of his grudges to the point of deluding himself of the truths behind them. And even the people and things that he cares for are still tools to him - no matter what he feels towards them, they can always be discarded once they no longer fit his goals. He is no less dangerous as an ally than he is as an enemy.

22 - Favorite Turtle duo

Regardless of the version, it's gotta be Donnie and Mikey.

Whether it be bonding over the same kind of nerdy wavelengths, Donnie being frustrated over Mikey's inattentiveness or negligent curiosity, or the two of them offering color commentary whenever Raphael and Leonardo have a blow-out, these two are easily my favorite to see interacting, especially during downtime.

23 - Favorite human ally

Oyuki Mashimi from the Archie comics. While she ends up more of an April supporting character, she nonetheless a bit of a unique type, being a Japanese street urchin that came this close to being a human sacrifice, only to get saved by the actions of the TMNT. She went on to follow them back to America and provide a no-nonsense, sometimes rough point of view when it came to their adventures. She also became April's trusted friend, roommate, and coworker, and even got to see some infiltration action to help the Turtles on a few occasions.

24 - Favorite Turtle + villain dynamic

Raphael and Xever/Fishface from 2012. It was a take on the "we're not so different" kind of relationship, but in a way where neither party was left feeling more lenient towards the other, and instead they seemed to have a mutual, if begrudging, respect for one another that would've been fun to see explored more, but was a pretty good relationship as it was.

25 - Your turtlesona

I do not have one, sorry!

26 - Favorite series

The Archie comics are my nostalgia. The 2012 cartoon revitalized my love for the TMNT. But overall, nothing even comes close to the IDW comics. The series has run the gamut of everything that's been a part of TMNT since their inception, from humor and wild adventure to raw emotions and dark twists and turns. This series, this universe, is hand-crafted by creators who know the Turtles, and moreover, love them. They have cherry-picked the best things from the past to bring back, and given them a rework to be even more beloved than they ever could be before. The stories, the characters, even the concepts have depth and growth that one might never have assumed possible for this 1980s-spawned property, and the fact that the IDW continuity lasted as long as it has (and isn't even over, just getting a 'soft' reboot/jumping-on point) is a testament to how well this all came together.

27 - Favorite mutant/alien villain

Armaggon, hands down.

A ruthless criminal with his sights set on mastering time itself, the cybernetic mutant shark Armaggon presents a threat to the Turtles and their allies in two different time periods. He's personally responsible for the loss of Raphael's eye, and if given half the chance would end the threat of the Turtles permanently by way of just straight-up eating them. He'll gladly work alongside other villains, but he's only out for himself.

28 - Favorite Turtle intro/song

Favorite intro would probably be the 2012 version of the theme (the standard version through most of the series), but my favorite Turtles song all together would be Mutants on Broadway, from the Shredder's Revenge game. As the kids say, it slaps.

29 - Favorite alternative outfit or design

Even tie between the Stump Intergalactic Wrestling outfits, and the Future Ninja Turtles outfits (both from, surprise surprise, the Archie comic)

30 - Favorite human villain

IDW's take on Baxter Stockman bumps him into the upper echelon of fictional schemers along the lines of Lex Luthor and David Xanatos, what can I say? Plus, he's still a bit of a mad scientist.

31 - The Turtles in your favorite style

Just go look up any of Chris Allan's work from the Archie comics, or pretty much any TMNT art that Sophie Campbell (@mooncalfe-art) has done.

OKAY! Did it! Whew! That took a minute. I hope you all enjoyed getting a chance to see my taste in Turtles. This was fun, if a bit taxing to do all at once.

[subdee]

B and E for the ask game?

Pretending I answered this two days ago... Aha.

B:  What was the first fandom you read fic in?  Which was the first you wrote fic for?

First fandom: It was Ranma 1/2! In second grade we got a PC for the first time, a few years later we got a dial-up internet connection. The only people on the internet at that time - as far as I knew anyway - were adult nerds and college students. The college students had the fast college internet, so their pages were unusable because they all had huge fancy anime JPEG headers that took 10 minutes to load.

I starting reading fanfiction because plaintext loaded quicker, and my favorite page on the entire internet was someone's boring HTML page that was literally nothing but a manually-updated list of links to every Ranma/Akane fanfiction that existed on the internet in English.

I was probably in 6th or 7th grade. I'd never read the comics, which were expensive as they were still being sold in the western comics format, where you charged a lot of $$$ for a small number of (flipped) pages. The tankobans came out a year or two later. I'm probably mixing all this up. I saw some of the anime, eventually, renting tapes from a going out of business video rental store near my high school boyfriend's house.

Uhh where was I. Yeah, to this day I've never seen or read all of Ranma 1/2, but I read literally every English language Ranma/Akane fanfic that existed on the internet circa 1995. I liked the ones where Akane was in love with girl Ranma, and Ranma didn't care that they were dating a lesbian, the best.

First fandom I wrote in: Naruto! I was still in high school, or maybe just starting college? I started some ambitious WIP, specofically to make friends with a group of livejournalers whose blogs I'd been lurking for several years (I succeeded in this btw, just not with the Naruto fic - with Death Note mainly). Since I didn't have any real plan for the fic, I didn't make it very far before I gave up.

There's another one I wrote, close to around that time, that I wish I could orphan or at least delete from my ff.net account, but alas I can't as the email I used to sign up for ff.net no longer exists. It was a fic about Sasuke and Hinata in an arranged marriage, there's a rape in it, I wrote it as a proof of concept for how horrible that pairing would be, but it got positive feedback from Sasuke fans invested in how I was going to redeem him. Yeah, lesson learned, never write an anti-fic.

E: What character do you identify with most?  Is there a certain fic of yours that captures these qualities particularly well?

Hmmmmmm. Usually I'd say, Yukino Arizawa from His and Her circumstances? She is insanely competitive and ambitious but hides it so she can get more adulation from her high school fanbase. I'm not exactly like this but I admire it, and it's closer to my mental image of myself than the majority of female characters. "They think I'm sweet, but I want to beat them all into the ground with the best test scores, best grades, AND be the best athlete! Haha!"

In general I'm not really trying to write characters who are like me when I write, though. It's like, write my essay about the canon, pretend it's fiction and not an essay; or join a fandom event to make friends and write an AU I can put some of my personal experiences in to make it more interesting. Fanfic as a social thing, more than a way to explore myself.

I'll plug the way I wrote Ging (HxH) in "Pariging Coffee Shop AU" though (though you just said you don't read AUs and especially not coffee shop AUs). I like the way he's a mystery in that and then... Revealed to be SOMEWHAT interesting but in a way that only appeals to like, the niche of the niche. (Academic genius only popular among sociology grad students, etc.) Hah.

Here's the fic:

https://archiveofourown.org/works/32737069

Thanks for the ask <333

[evelhak]

🔹2023 Wrap Up🔹

I've never really done an end of the year type of post, but I got inspired somehow. Maybe because this year has been in many ways slower and filled with rest more than any other year in my life so far (which is a good thing), but I started looking back, wondering if I'd really done "anything" this year, and I can see there's still a decent amount of things I've accomplished that are meaningful to me. So, this is almost diary type self-reflection. But I'll post it because I would like to see other people do this type of thing too. ✨

This is mostly work and hobbies related.

Original writing published

Rummuttaja (Drummer)

My third published novel and the first book in my first fantasy series. I'll talk about it more in its own post but it's about an island where people can control earthquakes with music, and musically gifted children are brought up as heroes to be. I spent about half of 2023 editing this book and I'm probably more proud of it than anything else I've published.

Sydäntekniikkaa (Heart Techniques)

A short story, or a novella, with a spin on the innocent girl meets heartless boy trope. Discusses politics, environment, prejudice, ignorance and disability in a fantastical setting. It was published in a steampunk anthology Rautasilmä ja muita steampunk-kertomuksia (Iron eye and other steampunk stories) with three other stories. Here's a drawing of my main character.

A book review I wrote on Sankareita ja shakkinappuloita (Heroes and chess pieces) by Heidi Torn, appeared in a Finnish SFF magazine Kosmoskynä. I very rarely make time to help with this magazine I've subscribed to for many years, so I'm glad I did. The book was about Greek gods in modern day Finland, so as a Percy Jackson fan I was obviously intrigued.

Original works written

2023 wasn't the most active writing year since I spent so much time editing, but I managed to write

about a half of a fantastical murder mystery in a ballet school told from the perspective of seven students with very different views on the school and the people in it

a short story about a magical doll maker student attempting to manipulate another guy to be less full of himself

Editing work

I've just started as one of three editors for a magic school story anthology. It is my first time so I'm learning from the other two who are more experienced and actually have their university degrees in Finnish language which I don't. I was asked along as more of the magic school expert since most of my published work so far is set in them. We are only just starting to go through the submissions since the deadline was the end of the year, so I haven't done much yet but I really love helping other people make the most of their writing, so I'm very excited. ✨

Fan fiction

Words published: 225 239

Words written: 263 315

Not including a few 100 word drabbles, and fake chats which are actually from past fics anyway just in visual form.

My fics were mostly KagaKuro, as they usually are, but I also wrote one AoMomo. My plans for 2024 have more diverse focus characters, though!

Illustration/Graphic design

I got more work for cover design than before this year. I'm still such a newbie on this, but I'm fairly happy with many of them, and I've discovered such passion for this art. Only writing books is more satisfying than getting to be the one to bring out the book's core in a visual form. And some of the authors have really loved the covers and felt like I got them, which of course feels amazing. I always wanted to do my own covers but now that I get to do other people's too I just want to do it more and more.

Drawings/Paintings

This was definitely a KnB heavy year! Which I enjoyed a lot. I didn't do that many original things but I was really happy to get back to traditional art after several years now that I think my digital art skills have improved to pretty much the same level.

Comics

I didn't really complete anything but in June I got about half way through this KagaKuro comic (with female Kuroko) based on my own fic Kuroko's Fairytale.

This is definitely one of the things I want to finish the most in 2024! I felt so high drawing it. It was such a strange experience because female Kuroko was not supposed to be a thing for me... (it was supposed to be just one funky fic that happens in a dream, never to be revisited again, because my brain is so much work it beats itself up about even the most minuscule changes I might like to make on existing characters, like, my brain just has no chill about fiction, everything is death serious, it's fucking annoying even to me) But. BUT. B U T. When I was drawing this comic. Oh. My. God. I have no words for how good it felt. Like, I obviously knew you can experience love on behalf of fictional characters (hello, shipping) but I had never before experienced gender euphoria on behalf of a fictional character. There's no other way to describe it, girl Kuroko absolutely destroyed me in the best of ways. So she's here to stay, I can't push her back anymore.

Anyway, have a sneak peek. I still struggle a lot with consistent anatomy as I have my whole life, but there are a few frames I love already, my favourite probably being the one which is also my icon.

Not that I'm not also in love with stupid prince Kagami, but I was never fighting that so it's a little different.

Books read

Not an especially good reading year in quantity. In quality it was, though. I don't think there was one book that I disliked. My problem these days is that every time I try to take time to read a book, about a half an hour into it my brain goes like... You know what? You could be working on your own writing. But it's also very important for a writer to read, so I have to retrain my brain to stop feeling like it's wasting time when I read.

Total: 29 (or 35 if you count KnB as two volumes each since it's double edition)

New books: 17

Rereads: 12(/18)

Several of these are books I did covers for, and I started a KnB reread to check for ideas I haven't covered in my fics yet, so if you take these "business" reads out of the equation, I didn't read that much for just pleasure. That's something I want to improve in 2024.

The most memorable book was probably The Song of Achilles (a damn difficult read since I saw so many of my own relationships patterns in Patroclus to a painful detail, ugh. And yeah Achilles definitely reminded me of some specific people too. Kind of destroyed all my blissful surrealist separation with this story and made me disillusioned with it, but in the end it might have been good for me).

Fics read

Ok, this is downright shameful to me. I read so little. But go give some love to these fics I've read which were obviously made with love.

Reap What You Sow (one-sided (??) AoMomo) by @vespersposts

summer drabble (Kagami) by cempasuchil_03

Noodle Kiss (KagaKuro) by @myndless88

The Art of Self-Pillage (Haizaki, OC) by @lylakoi

Let's Have a War (Kise, Kasamatsu, OC) by @lylakoi

Tastes of Cinnamon (KagaKuro) by @lilypheria

Nail art

A new hobby for me! I hadn't even owned nail polish before. And couldn't stand long nails either. I have no clue what inspired this, to be honest. I'm very new to it, but here are my favourites.

The text print on blue nails was definitely the most me, but I think I particularly enjoy prints in general. I made the star ones for Christmas.

I bet I've forgotten something obvious but this post is pretty long already and it looks like a pretty good summary. Definitely helped me sort out my thoughts on what I want to do in 2024 and what priorities I should have.

Good luck to everyone on all your future plans. ✨💙

[mashounen1945]

Another interesting Star Wars history essay I saw on Reddit (yep, I'm serious)

[Star Wars Expanded Universe] A Tale of Two Clone Wars, or: The Original Star Wars "Canon" Crisis

Posted originally by the Reddit user "DocWhoFan16" on May 13th, 2022.

[Link to the original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/up16zw/star_wars_expanded_universe_a_tale_of_two_clone/]

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I love Star Wars and I always have. I decidedly don't love talking about Star Wars on the Internet, mostly because I find it a chore to keep straight which parts I'm allowed to love and which parts I'm supposed to hate. It's no way to enjoy something, of course, but such is the nature of "being a fan" in the 21st century.

Nevertheless, the sad thing is that I can't seem to help but do it anyway, which is why I'm making this post (having threatened to do several times in various "Hobby Scuffle" threads) in which I have written five and a half thousand words about decade-old Star Wars fan drama that many people may have forgotten about, if they even knew it existed in the first place.

But maybe you will enjoy reading about it.

A Long Time Ago...

This is a story about the Star Wars Expanded Universe. I anticipate that most of the folks reading this will know what that was: the great mass of novels, comics, games, cartoons and more which took place in the fictional world of Star Wars, revealing "what happened next" for the protagonists of the movies, exploring its ancient history (a dark time in which the Jedi are hunted by the resurgent Sith Empire) and far(ish) future (a dark time in which the Jedi are hunted by the resurgent Sith Empire), and explaining how the extra with the ice cream machine who appears on screen for about three seconds in The Empire Strike Back was actually a Rebel sympathiser and the ice cream machine was actually a computer memory core containing sensitive information which he was trying to hide before the Empire could completely take over Cloud City.

When George Lucas sold Lucasfilm and Star Wars with it to the Walt Disney Company, the Expanded Universe found itself in limbo for a couple of years until Disney confirmed that, other than the six movies and the computer-animated Clone Wars TV series (in other words, the things in which George Lucas himself had taken an active and direct hand in creating, writing, producing and directing), all Star Wars stories produced prior to its acquisition would be rebranded as "Legends" and would not form part of the larger fictional story of Star Wars going forward.

My recollection is that most fans were more disappointed than angry. Of course, some people absolutely were angry, some of them were very, very, very angry, and many of those angry folks are still angry today, but I imagine most people had realised that this was an inevitable outcome from the moment the sale and acquisition was announced.

The Expanded Universe was now "non-canon".

However, I think the picture is a little more complex than that. I'm going to try to explain why.

Star Wars and "canon"

Oh, good grief. What a can of worms. This is a really easy topic to get bogged down in and it's almost certainly going to happen here, but I think it's pretty important to the overall story, so I'll wade through it.

My understanding has always been that "canon" in Star Wars prior to the sale of Lucasfilm to Disney vaguely operated on a kind of tiered system. At the highest level, you had "G" canon, which was anything George Lucas himself had taken an active and direct hand in creating, writing, producing and directing. This encompassed the movies, obviously, but also flippant off-the-cuff remarks ex cathedra pronouncements such as Obi-Wan's home planet being called "Stewjon", which Lucas "revealed" in an incredibly obvious dad joke when he was asked during an interview with Jon Stewart at a convention in 2010 (for the record, this is still "canon" — we shall see if it comes up in the Disney Plus series soon enough).

The lower levels of "canon" encompassed essentially everything that was licensed; in other words, everything Star Wars that George Lucas had no input on. This material was counted as "canon" to the extent that it did not contradict anything at the George Lucas level and, in some cases, some of it could even be "promoted" to that level if Lucas himself included it in one of his own productions.

The most famous examples of this phenomenon have been much-trumpeted over the years but were ultimately pretty minor things: "Coruscant" as the name of the galactic capital planet was first used in a Star Wars story by Timothy Zahn (who has always complained that nobody in the movies pronounces it correctly) in the first "true" EU novel, Heir to the Empire, and may have originated in the West End Games role-playing supplements he was provided with and instructed to use as background material for his books; the Jedi characters Quinlan Vos and Aayla Secura, who originated in the Dark Horse Star Wars comic series, made it into the prequel trilogy seemingly just because George Lucas liked how they looked.

However, I think when you take a closer look, it becomes pretty clear that this entire multi-level system was more of a Lucasfilm creation than it was a Lucas creation. Lucas's own views on the Expanded Universe and whether it was "canon" are much less complex, and I think his most succinct comment on the topic (which I believe he first used in 1998 or 1999 when he was promoting The Phantom Menace) is that he regarded the novels and comics and everything else as a "parallel universe". He claimed he had never even read any of the Star Wars novels and that he didn't really count them as "real" Star Wars, because he didn't make them: "real" Star Wars was his movies; everything else was licensing.

Indeed, one of the stock funny factoids is that Lucas apparently didn't particularly care for even some of the most popular elements of the EU. Perhaps the most notorious example is the character Mara Jade, a former Imperial agent and long-time fan favourite created by Timothy Zahn for Heir to the Empire, who subsequently becomes a romantic interest for Luke Skywalker and eventually marries him and has a son, Ben, with him. According to J.W. Rinzler, Lucas "loathed" Mara and objected to the idea that Luke would ever get married and have a family, because it didn't match his view that Luke would become a kind of ascetic monk who practised a strict life of celibacy after Return of the Jedi (something which Mark Hamill, during the press tour for The Last Jedi, also claimed Lucas told him while they were making the original trilogy).

Nevertheless, the impression I have always taken away, as someone who has enjoyed experienced varying degrees of participation in the Star Wars fandom in general and the EU fandom in particular for close to 25 misspent years at this point, is that it became a widely accepted "fact" of the hardest core of the Star Wars fandom that the EU was "canon" and on an equal footing to the movies.

If I may speculate, I think there are two really key reasons as to why this perception became so widespread:

First, for many years, the EU was in the rather unique position of being the only new Star Wars material that was being produced at all and, because Lucas didn't really express his opinion on the subject of whether the EU was "canon" or not until it was pretty firmly-established, so nobody had any reason to believe it wasn't "canon" (and in the absence of widespread Internet access, any remarks Lucas made may well not have reached as many ears as they would today in any event).

Second, I think that most people were fairly cognisant that, whatever his true level of substantive involvement, George Lucas ultimately had to sign off on all of this stuff, giving it his approval (if not his endorsement) in the same way he would approve any other piece of Star Wars tie-in merchandise, and this may have created an (inaccurate?) impression that Lucas considered all of it to be just as "canon" as the fans did, and just as "canon" as what he was creating himself.

I will say, though, I did think sometimes that most fans understood, at least on some level, that the idea the EU was "canon" was a sort of legal fiction, that Lucas would have the final say and that there was likely some distance between what Lucas probably thought and what many Star Wars fans probably thought. Still, as long as nothing Lucas himself was creating contradicted too much of what EU writers produced, or at least could be easily reconciled to and harmonised with it, the illusion was maintained. However, that position would soon become untenable.

The Clone Wars, Version 1

Star Wars: Episode II: Attack of the Clones came out in 2002 and the Clone Wars storyline, first mentioned in a single line of dialogue all the way back in Star Wars in 1977, officially began. Between 2002 and 2005, the story of the Clone Wars unfolded in a new multimedia mini-saga which took in the entire EU.

Star Wars returned to the small screen for the first time since 1986 with Star Wars: Clone Wars, a brilliantly kinetic and dynamic "microseries" from Genndy Tartakovsky which introduced a new Dark Side rival for Anakin named Asajj Ventress and debuted a new villain who would be appearing in the forthcoming Episode III, the Jedi-killing droid General Grievous. The ongoing Dark Horse Star Wars comic, initially conceived as a kind of anthology book featuring the new Jedi characters introduced in Episode I, was retitled Star Wars: Republic and spent the next three years telling stories from the Clone Wars.

Del Rey, which had assumed the Star Wars publishing licence in 1999, began a bespoke line of Clone Wars novels which really ran the gamut from pastiches of Apocalypse Now (Matt Stover's Shatterpoint, in which Mace Windu plays the Captain Willard role) and M*A*S*H (Michael Reaves and Steven Perry's MedStar duology, in which Jedi padawan Barriss Offee joins a field hospital on a remote but strategically important planet) to more conventional Star Wars adventures (e.g. Stephen Barnes's The Cestus Deception, which teamed Obi-Wan with popular background movie Jedi Kit Fisto, or Sean Stewart's Yoda: Dark Rendezvous). Of particular note was a computer game tie-in book called Republic Commando by a writer named Karen Traviss.

This will be important later.

I don't even know where to start with all the games that came out, but suffice it to say I don't think there was ever a more productive period for Star Wars games than this one, and a fair few of them (Bounty Hunter, Jedi Starfighter, The Clone Wars, The New Droid Army, Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns, even the campaign mode for Battlefront II) were Clone Wars tie-ins.

Quality varied across the board, as you may expect. And although Lucasfilm did creditable job of keeping things fairly consistent, at least to the extent that the stories in each medium weren't stepping all over each other too obtrusively, the whole line ended up in the awkward position of having three "official" lead-ins to Episode III which didn't really fit together. The comic miniseries Obsession, the novel Labyrinth of Evil and the final season of Star Wars: Clone Wars each managed to place Obi-Wan and Anakin at three separate remote corners of the galaxy simultaneously as the attack on Coruscant which opens the movie begins, and all end with them racing to join the battle from three completely different locations! Similarly, the novel and the cartoon showed two different versions of General Grievous kidnapping Chancellor Palpatine and the cartoon and the comic showed General Grievous suffering two completely different critical injuries (Mace Windu drops a STAP on him in the comic and uses the Force to crush his organs in the cartoon) which caused his cough in the movie!

However, that was splitting hairs. At the time, between the books and comics and games and the cartoon and everything else, it really felt like the EU was telling the entire story of the Clone Wars from start to finish, with Episodes II and III as the bookends.

The story of the Clone Wars, it seemed, was complete.

"Seemed" being the operative word.

The Clone Wars, Version 2

George Lucas's next Star Wars project after Revenge of the Sith was supposed to be a live-action television series called Star Wars: Underworld, which fell through when it became clear that producing as many episodes as Lucas wanted at the level of quality he envisaged was impractical on a television budget. Thus it seemed that, just as it had been between 1991 and 1999, the EU was going to be the primary source of new Star Wars stories for the foreseeable future (although unfortunately, I think this is generally regarded as a period of mixed fortunes of the Expanded Universe; that's certainly my own recollection of the time).

However, once it became clear that the production of the live-action series had hit that roadblock, Lucas shifted his focus and work commenced on a new animated feature, which would be released theatrically and serve as the pilot for a new Star Wars animated television series, which would have a whole new multimedia mini-saga around it in books, comics and games, which would tell the complete story of a decisive era of Star Wars history.

It would be called Star Wars: The Clone Wars and it was going to tell the story of... er... the Clone Wars.

As I recall, the immediate reactions to the announcement and the first trailers were somewhat mixed. I have quite distinct memories, for instance, of people complaining that it looked "childish". When the movie came out and featured Anakin going on an adventure to rescue the vile gangster Jabba the Hutt's cute little baby son Rotta, over whom the murderous crime boss lovingly coos and to whom he refers as his "punky muffin", this initial impression was not exactly shifted. Likewise, I also recall a lot of particularly pronounced ill-feeling among Star Wars fans towards a new main character the show was going to introduce, a young female Jedi learner named Ahsoka Tano, who would end up being accused of being too perfect, too powerful and, you guessed it, a Mary Sue.

However, bubbling beneath all of this fairly predictable surface-level criticism was a certain element of suspicion: the EU already did the Clone Wars, and pretty comprehensively too! You say you're going to do it again; are you going to... replace the original one? Somewhat surprisingly, Lucasfilm actually gave assurances that this would not be the case. Supervising director and executive producer Dave Filoni, whom George Lucas had been hand-picked to oversee the new series, and other folks at Lucasfilm insisted that they wanted to take the existing EU continuity seriously, to supplement rather than supplant the existing "canon" of the Clone Wars and to respect what had gone before.

However, it was made abundantly clear that this was George Lucas's series, and his word was going to be final.

When the series began, it's true that there were a few small things which were inconsistent here and there: for example, the Jedi master Eeth Koth appears in an early story arc, contradicting a comment from an Attack of the Clones reference book which said he died on the Battle of Geonosis; but that was only a reference book, not an actual story, so that was an acceptable discrepancy and one which was easy to ignore without much fuss.

I know there were still plenty of folks who dismissed it as a disposable product for children (as opposed to the many mature, sophisticated dismemberments scenes Troy Denning was writing in Star Wars novels at the time, I suppose), but I'd say The Clone Wars found an audience who appreciated it pretty quickly. Maybe it had a somewhat shaky start, but it was and is a good show: it was able to thread the needle of tackling complex themes and plots while staying simple and straightforward; it had strong characterisation and great performances from its three lead voice actors (Matt Lanter as Anakin, James Arnold Taylor as Obi-Wan and Ashley Eckstein as Ahsoka); it managed to add some depth to one-note characters like Asajj Ventress and did a great job of characterising the clone troopers as distinct individuals in spite of their identical DNA; and it has to be said that there were few cartoons on television that looked better at the time, because Lucas was apparently putting his own money into it to ensure that its animation would be top-notch.

Is it perfect? Of course not. Does it still have its flaws? Absolutely? Is it still kinda distracting that we're asked to accept Anakin as a basically good person here when he's already ethnically cleansed a whole village of indigenous people in the previous movie? Well... For me, it kinda is. But it still evens out as a really good and very fun wee series. And most importantly for some fans, it felt like it was siloed off in its own little corner of the EU, to be safely ignored if you preferred, not intruding on anything else and not threatening the integrity of the "canon" of the original Clone Wars.

Then, on 15 July 2009, they published The Art of Star Wars: The Clone Wars.

The Drama Awakens

There's probably few Star Wars novelists more controversial than Karen Traviss. I'm not a fan of her work or her take on Star Wars and must confess I never have been, but that's a whole other thing by itself and not what I'm here to talk about, I'm decidedly not a "hater" and I will do my best to be even-handed. What you need to know is that one of the things Traviss had become very well-known for was her seeming fascination with (some might say fixation upon) the Mandalorians. After writing the first Republic Commando novel, Traviss took it upon herself to develop the history, culture, customs, society and language of the Mandalorians. I'm not sure if "Space Gurkhas" would be the most accurate way to sum it up, but that's where my mind tends to go. Again, not something I'm especially interested in (Boba Fett was always infinitely more compelling to me before we knew what was under the helmet) but loads of people love it and that's cool.

When The Art of Star Wars: The Clone Wars came out, it included some information regarding a trilogy of episodes which would be part of the then-forthcoming second season: "The Mandalore Plot", "Voyage of Temptation" and "Duchess of Mandalore". It explained that Mandalorian society had once been warlike in the past, but by the time of The Clone Wars had embraced a pacifist philosophy and rejected their bellicose history, with the only holdouts against these values being the mysterious terrorist gang known as Death Watch (itself an adaptation of an older EU idea from the W. Haden Blackman Clone Wars tie-in comic Jango Fett: Open Seasons) who sought to overthrow the benevolent rule of Duchess Satine and return Mandalore to the old ways. The Mandalorians themselves resided in futurustic cities amidst the barren, blasted wastelands of their home planet.

All of this, to one extent or another, directly and irreconcilably contradicted much of what Traviss had created in relation to the Mandalorians. As you might expect, Traviss was extremely unhappy. In fact, she was so unhappy that she quit Star Wars completely and left, never to return, claiming that she felt she and her work had been disrespected and disregarded by Lucasfilm and that she no longer wished to work under such conditions. (While it is understandable that she would be upset, as many have noted over the years, this was and still is regarded as a bit rich, because another thing Traviss had a bit of a reputation for was claiming that she didn't read anyone else's Star Wars novels, but would still take characters from them and use them as she pleased. More to the point, many other Star Wars EU authors - Tim Zahn, Steven Perry and Kathy Tyers among them, off the top of my head - had been pretty clear that they understood they were playing in someone else's garden and recognised that, from Lucas's perspective, their work wasn't really "canon" in the first place.)

But if Traviss was unhappy, EU fans generally (and fans of Traviss's work in particular) were probably even unhappier. Their worst fears had been realised. Lucasfilm had reassured them that the "canon" status of the EU would be respected and, bluntly, it hadn't been. One of my most distinct memories of this entire drama was the front page of Wookieepedia rather bitterly putting up a George Lucas quote on its front page, in which he denounced making changes to other people's work. Overnight, Dave Filoni became a kind of hate figure for fans, accused of being "smug" or "arrogant" or denounced for "butchering the canon" of Star Wars, for trampling over the work of other (and, implicitly, "better") creators, for being a "prequel apologist" (back when that was a mark against you), for "ripping off Karen Traviss" and then "forcing her out of Star Wars", and probably some other invective that I've forgotten.

As it transpired, though, this was only the beginning.

Begun the Clone Wars Wars Have!

It's kind of fascinating to look back at how that event seemed to open the floodgates, because in the remaining seasons of The Clone Wars, the position of the Expanded Universe was made absolutely clear: the idea that it was ever "canon" was and always had been at the sufferance of George Lucas, and if George Lucas wanted to change it, George Lucas was going to change it.

You see, according to comments from Filoni himself in later years, a lot of the stuff around the Mandalorians which had so incensed Traviss and a lot of hardcore EU fans, apparently came directly from George Lucas. Lucas, he has explained, began to become increasingly involved with the creation and development of the series storylines from the second season onwards, contributing ideas and sometimes even full outlines for episodes or multi-part story arcs. The Mandalore trilogy in season two was, from what I understand, one of the first times he did this.

They were small changes, in some ways, but nevertheless, they had a pretty fundamental impact on the integrity (for want of a better word) of the Expanded Universe, because they were changes which couldn't be reconciled to the existing EU. Here are some examples:

The planet Ryloth had always been characterised in the EU by its status as a "tidally-locked" world where one half was a scorched desert always facing its sun, the other half was a frozen desert always facing away from its sun, and the native Twi'leks inhabited a narrow twilight band around the middle; when Ryloth appeared in The Clone Wars, it seemed to be a fairly generic world of rolling plains and hilly grasslands (and all the Twi'leks were French).

The Dugs (Sebulba from The Phantom Menace is one) were the natives of the planet Malastare, and the established position in the EU was that they had been subjugated and enslaved by the colonising Gran (the three-eyed goat-faced dudes; you'd know them if you saw them) species. When the Zillo Beast story arc appeared in The Clone Wars (another major example of a direct Lucas contribution; he was keen to do an homage to classic kaiju movies), it took place on Malastare... where the Dugs govern themselves and there is not a Gran in sight.

Darth Maul, a character that George Lucas had killed off in the most definitive manner possible precisely because he knew people would want him to come back from the dead and he didn't want that... came back from the dead, apparently at Lucas's own suggestion! Not only that, but he came with a hitherto unseen evil secret brother and a whole new backstory, which tied into...

The planet Dathomir was one of the better-defined worlds of the EU: a matriarchal society of Force-sensitive barbarian witches who rode on the backs of tame rancors; the sinister Nightsisters as witches who had mastered the dark side of the Force. In The Clone Wars, some of the basic elements of this are retained, but they are reimagined so as to form the basis of the new origin story of Darth Maul (now portrayed as a "Nightbrother"), as well as that of...

Asajj Ventress, now portrayed as a native of Dathomir and daughter of the Nightsister leader, replacing the origin developed by John Ostrander in Star Wars: Republic which placed her as the daughter of murdered freedom fighters on a remote planet who was trained in the Force by a stranded Jedi and turned to the dark side and conquered her homeworld after he was killed by her political enemies.

One of the most significant changes involved the character Barriss Offee, one of the background Jedi introduced in Attack of the Clones. Usually appearing alongside her master, Luminara Undili, Barriss had generally been portrayed as roughly the same age as Anakin, featured as a main character in the aforementioned MedStar novels and was generally agreed to have fought alongside her master throughout the war and died during Order 66. In The Clone Wars, Barriss is reimagined as a younger character, closer in age to Ahsoka than Anakin, and in the final arc of the initial broadcast run in 2013, she falls to the dark side, betrays the Jedi Order and frames Ahsoka for a terrorist attack that she perpetrated herself.

Quinlan Vos, a Jedi master who walked the line between light and dark, was one of the most popular characters of the Expanded Universe, the main character of Dark Horse's Star Wars: Republic whose stories chronicled his struggle with the dark side as he infiltrated Count Dooku's inner circle, allowed himself to be guided down ever darker paths in the name of maintaining his cover and his ultimate rejection of the darkness out of love for his family and friends. He makes a guest appearance in The Clone Wars, and he's honestly kind of a surfer dude, not really feeling much like the same character he'd been in the comics at all. (This is one that I remember people being particularly frustrated with.)

Character deaths: the two most significant which occur to me are the Jedi masters Even Piell and Adi Gallia. The former is killed in the Clone Wars episode "Citadel Rescue" from 2011, when he is mauled by a nexu during a prison break... but he'd already been killed by clone troopers during Orer 66 in the novel Jedi Twilight in 2008. The latter is killed by Darth Maul's evil secret brother Savage Oppress in the Clone Wars episode "Revival" from 2012... but she'd already been killed seven years earlier by General Grievous in the Dark Horse comic Obsession from 2005!

Examples of smaller —but still significant— changes to characters include the portrayals of: Aurra Sing, an Episode I background character who had become a major villain in the Dark Horse comics as a former Jedi padawan who fell to the dark side and became a prolific Jedi-killer, portrayed in the series as Boba Fett's mentor as a bounty hunter with no indication that she has the Force; Dengar, who had been a rival of Han Solo and became a bounty hunter after a near-fatal accident in a speeder bike race against him in the existing EU, is now portrayed as having been a bounty hunter since the Clone Wars, potato sack on his head and all; and like Dengar, Greedo (seriously!), who previously in the EU had been a rookie bounty hunter with a grudge against Han Solo when he appears in Star Wars, is also established here to have been active as a bounty hunter since the Clone Wars.

And most offensively of all, now General Grievous had always had a cough the entire time!

For better or worse, the cat was out of the bag. The new Clone Wars wasn't just overwriting parts of the original Clone Wars, but entirely different parts of the Expanded Universe altogether. Filoni, to be fair, did try for a few years to make the case that it all fit together in some way, that the new Clone Wars was looking at the old Clone Wars "from a different point of view" (this is Star Wars, after all). I think it's always been pretty clear that Filoni is a fan of the EU and all of the references he made then and continues to make in his Star Wars work today reflect his appreciation for it; the many, many, many claims that he actually hated it and his fans seem completely without foundation to me. However, as the position became less and less tenable, he would eventually give an interview to Star Wars Insider in 2012 in which he came right out and said that the Clone Wars animated series and the EU "don't live in the same universe". And it was clear which one was "supposed" to "count".

Here's a clue: it's the one that George Lucas was helping to make. The creator of Star Wars was actively creating new Star Wars "canon", and this time, it seemed to the EU's longtime fans that these new additions had little to no regard for the existing "canon" at all.

Conclusion

By far the most tangible and shocking outcome of this drama was the exit under a pretty dark cloud from the Star Wars universe of Karen Traviss. I've said I didn't like her work at all, but the fact remains that many, many fans loved and valued what she contributed to Star Wars and still do to this day. In the years since Disney purchased Lucasfilm, we have seen creators walk away from or find themselves "forced out" of Star Wars for one reason or another, whether that's Phil Lord and Chris Miller, Colin Trevorrow, Chuck Wendig and others, but I don't think any departure was quite as divisive within the Star Wars fandom as was that of Karen Traviss. Karen Traviss wasn't fired over creative differences, because she wanted to take her work in one direction and Lucasfilm wanted it to go in another; Karen Traviss quit because she felt that she and her work had been disrespected by someone else's work (that "someone else" ultimately being George Lucas) and she made abundantly clear that this was why she had made the decision to exit.

But the more significant outcome was much quieter. I don't think fans had fully appreciated that it had happened at the time and (perhaps due in no small part to some of the misconceptions which I think still exist around George Lucas's own views on "canon" in Star Wars which I mentioned above) to a large extent, I'm not sure that many of them really appreciate it even today. The Clone Wars blew the Star Wars EU wide open in a very fundamental and irreversible way. For the first time, here was George Lucas himself helping to create something which said (or, at least, was perceived to say), in a very direct definitive manner, in a way that couldn't really be reconciled or ignored like it always had in the past, that all the comics and games and novels that you liked "didn't count" as "real" Star Wars, because that's what this was meant to be. Whenever people say that "Disney made the EU non-canon", it is only reasonable to acknowledge that George Lucas kind of did that first.

Of course, attempts were still made. I understand that the Fate of the Jedi novel series (which I have to emphasise I never read and never have read) gamely tried to incorporate some of the new Force mythology from The Clone Wars (specifically the Son, Daughter and Father characters; mysterious personifications of the Dark Side, Light Side and Balance of the Force respectively) into its storyline regarding the Space Cthulhu Force creature Abeloth, but I feel that it was a bit of a lost cause by that point. If Lucasfilm's decision to introduce the Legends branding was the end, then The Clone Wars, whether we realised it at the time or not, was the beginning of the end.

My own opinion on the matter is that Disney didn't "invalidate" the Expanded Universe; they just didn't validate it.

Final Thoughts

I think there are two great ironies that came of all of this.

The first is that a lot of Traviss's contributions to the portrayal of the Mandalorians were actually kept in the long term and, to varying degrees, remain part of Star Wars today. A lot of the stuff you see in The Mandalorian (a series co-created and co-produced by none other than Dave Filoni) seems to owe at least as much to some of the language and concepts that Traviss introduced as it did to the developments in relation to the Mandalorians which occurred throughout the Clone Wars cartoon.

And the second is that Dave Filoni, once one of the great hate figures of the Star Wars fandom, is today regarded as one of its heroes, the protector of "George's legacy", the "only man who really understands George's vision", the Chosen One who will "save" the series he was once accused, incessantly and often virulently, in the kind of terms that you have to literally be Rian Johnson to have thrown at you today, of "selfishly" and "arrogantly" trying to destroy. Let me be absolutely clear, I think Filoni is a talented writer and artist and I'm always keen to see what he does next in Star Wars, but forgive me if I find all the hero-worship a bit two-faced, because I remember very clearly when the shoe was on the other foot.

Perhaps the decision that The Clone Wars, alone of the EU, would be "canon" after Lucas sold to Disney was a blessing in disguise. It didn't matter if it had contradicted and overridden "canon" any more, because now everything it had supplanted was "non-canon" in a much more definitive way than it had arguably been before. You could go back to it and enjoy it for what it was rather than hating it for what it wasn't, and I'm pretty sure that a lot of people who did so recognised its accomplishments on its own merits because it deserved recognition, not because it was or wasn't arbitrarily "canon".

Or, perhaps, the people who rejected it the first time around, who would fill message boards with so much invective about how "the canon" was being vandalised with every new secret evil Darth Maul sibling or inconsistency with this or that comic or novel, had all left with Karen Traviss.

Whatever the case may be, that's the Clone Wars. Both of them.

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A selection of enriching comments from the original post:

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"UnsealedMTG" said:

I'm going to ramble a bunch but I want to put upfront the funniest "HobbyDrama" part of this, and what I first heard about the conflict, having checked mostly out of the Star Wars fandom at the time: Karen Traviss referred to the people who opposed her work as "Talifans", comparing them to the Taliban because liking the Jedi too much made them like oppressive theocrats; her own faction went by "Fandalorians".

Awesome post! I remember a lot of this, though I was mostly checked out of Star Wars for much of the Clone Wars era, bopping in to read some of the newer Timothy Zahn books and to watch the totally sweet Tartarovsky cartoon. (I've since seen the 2nd Clone Wars cartoon, and yeah, it's pretty great overall if uneven for sure. Shout out to Dee Bradley Baker for his awesome voice work as all the clones, balancing their sameness with their individuality.)

I agree with your takes and just want to add some notes/thoughts.

The official Lucasfilm canon system for the EU was a little more complicated than even addressed in this post, and some of that kind of relates to this dispute. Any stuff from a lower level was kind of "true unless contradicted by a higher level", at least officially.

As mentioned, the top level was G Canon, meaning "George Lucas". It referred to specifically the 6 live-action films (before the Disney buy-out), the radio dramas, the film scripts, and comments by George Lucas.

The 2nd level was T Canon, meaning "Television". That included only the CGI Clone Wars series. So, CGI Clone Wars notably was not quite officially the top level. But it trumped books.

The 3rd level was C Canon — this was your core EU stuff.

The 4th level was S Canon, for "Secondary canon". This was basically old or weird stuff that wasn't really consciously integrated into the EU, either because the EU's idea hadn't been developed yet or because it was games-related. Examples are the Star Wars Holiday Special or the MMO Star Wars Galaxies.

Finally, there was N "Canon", which was non-canon material like the comedy issues of Star Wars Tales or the Star Wars Infinities comics, which were like the Star Wars version of Marvel's What If? (I genuinely love those even if they have dumb stuff, like the one set at the end of Return of the Jedi, where Vader survives but turns Light-Side and shows up in his Vader armour... coloured white now). Sometimes, when people are like "Look at this absurd thing that was canon in the EU!", they are talking about N Canon stuff that was never intended as canon and it bugs me. Wookiepedia encouraged this — multiple times I've encountered people saying it was canon in the EU that the droid that blows his motivator up in the original Star Wars was really Skippy the Jedi Droid, who went on to protect people on Tatooine as a ghost. That comes from an 8-page joke comic by Peter David from Star Wars Tales. It is a pretty good parody of the EU's tendency to turn every minor character into a secret Jedi, but it is a parody and it is not quite fair to the EU to treat it as real.

"Nevertheless, the impression I have always taken away, as someone who has enjoyed experienced varying degrees of participation in the Star Wars fandom in general and the EU fandom in particular for close to 25 misspent years at this point, is that it became a widely accepted "fact" of the hardest core of the Star Wars fandom that the EU was "canon" and on an equal footing to the movies. If I may speculate, I think there are two really key reasons as to why this perception became so widespread [...]"

I have a slightly different memory/perception. I always got the sense that people understood that the movies trumped the EU. And the EU stayed well clear of the Prequel era before the Prequels came out because they knew Lucas might want to eventually fill that in.

What I think was more controversial was the TV show trumping the other EU items since, even if there was some involvement from Lucas in the show, it still wasn't a movie so it seemed weird to give it the status close to or equal to a movie. It seems less weird now that the new canon has been built around the TV show, but at the time, it was all "not the movies" and it felt weird that some "not the movies" stuff could trump another.

I also have a couple of other thoughts about the why of canon expectations for the EU:

This is hard to imagine today given, on the one hand, what a cluster the EU became, and on the other hand, how used to integrated multimedia franchises we are now. But in fact, the EU was galaxies ahead of other licensed media in terms of coherence. Before Heir to the Empire, I don't know of any prominent franchise that even tried to get its licensed material to agree with each other. So when you read a Star Trek novel in the 90s, you just understood that anything not directly from a show wasn't "real" and wouldn't be referred to in a book by a different author. The fact that Star Wars made the effort was really ahead of its time, and once you saw that Mara Jade was going to be in books not only by Timothy Zahn but Kevin J. Anderson as well (not that she's all that recognizable between those two), the idea that there was a canon followed naturally.

There were plenty of reference works published that referred to all this EU canon. I remember a pre-Prequels Star Wars dictionary with a proto-version of the elaborate canon hierarchy. Anything from the movies was marked with the Rebel Alliance symbol, meaning movie material. Anything from the EU was marked with the similar but distinct New Republic symbol. Stuff like that created the idea of a two-tier system that, again, the 2nd Clone Wars cartoon seemed to upset by barging in at a second tier above the other EU stuff.

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"DocWhoFan16" (the original poster) replied to "UnsealedMTG":

"The fact that Star Wars made the effort was really ahead of its time, and once you saw that Mara Jade was going to be not only in the books written by Timothy Zahn but also in the ones written by Kevin J. Anderson (not that she's all that recognizable between those two), the idea that there was a canon followed naturally."

I think the tricky thing here is that there was a bit of a dispute right at the start of the EU when they decided that, even though the novels seemed to be the "official" continuation of Star Wars after the movies, the comic Dark Empire was going to "count" as well.

The thing is that Tom Veitch had been pitching Dark Empire since around 1986 or 1987 (to Marvel, originally, since they were still publishing Star Wars comics at the time) and it was imagined as the "what happened next" story to follow the movies.

When Bantam Spectra announced they'd be starting a series of novels, one of the options they considered was asking Veitch to write a novelisation of his comic, which he was up for doing. But then they opted to go with Zahn's story instead, because Zahn had a growing reputation in science-fiction and was under contract to them already.

Zahn developed the story for the Thrawn Trilogy completely independently of Veitch developing Dark Empire, and it's my understanding that when he was asked, he flat-out refused to include any Dark Empire references in his book, largely because he didn't like the story of Dark Empire. Essentially, the Thrawn Trilogy and Dark Empire were "supposed" to be two alternatives rather than stories that both "happened" within each other's fiction. Zahn gave Han and Leia a twin son and daughter in the Thrawn Trilogy; Veitch gave them one son in Dark Empire. It was never "planned" for them to have three kids: they had two in the novels and one in the comics.

The "problem" (such as it was) arose when Kevin J. Anderson wrote the Jedi Academy trilogy and, later on, Darksaber, because Anderson and Veitch had compared notes and found they shared a similar idea of Star Wars and Anderson ended up including references to Veitch's comics in his novels, effectively making them part of the "canon" of the EU when their position had previously been a bit murkier. So (just for example), whereas the novels had been moving forward with the assumption that Han and Leia had these two kids, now they had a third one to account for!

(Indeed, an RPG supplement eventually "revealed" that the assassination of Grand Admiral Thrawn by the Noghri was somehow orchestrated by the cloned Emperor from Dark Empire, which I suspect is probably the kind of thing Zahn pointedly wanted to avoid)

That's my understanding of it, anyway, though of course I may have the wrong of it.

"There were plenty of reference works published that referred to all this EU canon. I remember a pre-Prequels Star Wars dictionary with a proto-version of the elaborate canon hierarchy."

Sure, that may also illustrate an earlier, non-drama-causing example of this phenomenon: I remember devouring The Essential Guide to Characters as a child... and being confused about why none of the stuff from the old Marvel comics (which Dark Horse had reprinted and I'd read in that format) was in it!

I will say, I think that getting online circa 2002 and having rude people tell me I was wrong to think the Marvel comics "counted" was probably what started me down the path to not really caring about "canon" that much, LOL. :p

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"UnsealedMTG" replied to "DocWhoFan16":

I believe that's all generally correct. In my mind, there were some textual changes to Dark Empire to sort of make it fit with the new idea that it was later than the Thrawn Trilogy, but that might have been my mind inserting that because I already "knew" the "official" timeline which put Dark Empire well after Thrawn.

It was definitely messy from the beginning, but what was kind of novel and helped create the concept of a true multimedia franchise was that they made the effort at all. That created a kind of expectation —certainly not always met— of consistency in stuff like the timeline for Star Wars that wasn't common in other media.

I remember Marvel editor Jordan D. White, who edited the new Marvel Star Wars comics for some time, talking about the sort of culture shift from other comics fans —who are used to the sort of general handwaving of Marvel's shifting timeline that defies any real one-to-one timeline (this is how Peter Parker can simultaneously be in his early 30s but have comics with him 17 in the 1960s still be canon, or how the war during which Tony Stark was kidnapped can keep moving forward in time without a full reboot)— to Star Wars fans who want, like, a month-by-month timeline.

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"thrashinbatman" replied to "UnsealedMTG":

It is. Dark Empire was originally supposed to take place before or around the same time as the Thrawn Trilogy, but since Zahn refused to acknowledge them, they were set about a year later. Kevin J. Anderson's acknowledgement of Dark Empire in the Jedi Academy books creates a really silly scenario where, off-page, the New Republic loses Coruscant, is forced back into more of a Rebellion situation, then takes Coruscant back and reestablishes the status quo from the Thrawn Trilogy. It's really dumb, but actually is one of the few major incongruities in the EU outside of the massive ones created by Lucas and Dave Filoni that were discussed in the original post.

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"Raxtenko" said:

"literally be Rian Johnson to have thrown at you today"

Ha, maybe that's why Filoni and Rian Johnson seem to get along: commiseration over bad fan reactions.

I'll admit that I internally rolled when I saw the EU tag. I'm sick to death over all the anger and drama. But this is a very fair and neutral write-up. Good job.

I remember reading Zahn's trilogy some 20+ years ago and absolutely loving it. In the void after Episode VI, it was a great sequel trilogy and I gobbled them up. I remember how disappointed I felt when the Prequel Trilogy came out, and the slow disappointment I felt when the differences between it and Zahn's works popped up. I think I realized then that Lucas didn't really consider the EU to be canon in his universe.

I still kept reading the novels, but probably something inside me broke and I didn't really enjoy them anymore, coupled with some very silly DBZ-level power jumps. I left it behind when I saw Starkiller pull that Star Destroyer out of orbit.

I was still on my hiatus when the Karen Traviss thing happened. I only watched the Sequel Trilogy because my wife loves Star Wars. After that, we watched The Clone Wars at her suggestion. It spun off into Rebels and the live-action stuff after. I'm firmly back now in the fold for better or worse, but I believe with all my heart that there has never been a better time to be a Star Wars fan.

And looking back on it, I'll always have the good memories of Rogue Squadron, Kyle Katarn, Zahn and everything else that I enjoyed from the EU. Those memories won't go away and they can't be taken from me. A small petty part of me will always take some glee that the parts I loathed aren't "canon" anymore, though. It really doesn't matter to me, but some fans will twist themselves into pretzels if things they like don't have the vaunted canon status, so they can suffer and be miserable instead of focusing on the positives.

And I'll also always have Hera and Kanan (best Star Wars couple; fight me, Rebels haters), and The Mandalorian and The High Republic are looking pretty good too.

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"mdp300" replied to "Raxtenko":

Dude, you sound a lot like me. I was a huge fan in the late 90s, then kind of drifted away for a while, and got back into it with the CGI Clone Wars series. I was fine with Disney starting things over because a lot of the EU was bad. And anyway, I still have my old Rogue Squadron books in the closet.

I think a lot of weird contradictions about the Jedi come from the fact that, up until The Phantom Menace in 1999, we knew very little about the Jedi other than the fact they were cool. So writers had a lot of different interpretations of them, a lot of which ended up being wrong.

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"DocWhoFan16" replied to "mdp300":

"I think a lot of weird contradictions about the Jedi come from the fact that, up until The Phantom Menace in 1999, we knew very little about the Jedi other than the fact they were cool. So writers had a lot of different interpretations of them, a lot of which ended up being wrong."

I think the most significant one was the not-unreasonable assumption that Jedi could marry and have children and that, if you were a Jedi, chances were your parents were Jedi as well. And if you only have the Original Trilogy to go on, you'd be hard-pressed to say you had the wrong end of the stick. Who's the main Jedi of the Original Trilogy? Luke Skywalker. And why is Luke Skywalker a Jedi? Because his father was a Jedi. He says it in Episode VI: "The Force is strong in my family".

So you have a book like Children of the Jedi, which has at the centre of its premise the idea of an old Imperial battle station which existed for the purpose of tracking down and kidnapping the children of Jedi knights (collateral to this was the widely-held supposition among EU writers that the Empire had been around for much longer than would turn out to be the case and had been running the show for a while before they decided to wipe out the Jedi, rather than the Jedi purge being the start of the Empire). Or the character Corran Horn, whose backstory is that his grandfather was a Jedi knight during the Republic.

The Prequels upended that assumption, although I'd argue not to the same degree as Clone Wars Version 2 did, because they had recourse to a mostly neat workaround that characters like Corran Horn's dad had just been breaking the rules!

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"thrashinbatman" replied to "DocWhoFan16":

Yeah, you mention that Lucas hated Mara Jade and the concept of Luke being married, but I don't think he always held that opinion. He was actually fairly involved in the EU in the 90s. I don't think he really read the novels, but at least he skimmed the comics and most story ideas went through him. He at the very least approved Veitch's idea to bring Palpatine back (some accounts go as far as saying he proposed the idea, but that could just be a misunderstanding), and his suggestion to the crew writing The New Jedi Order that they should "get creative" was what led to the Yuuzhan Vong. Near as I can tell, it seems that The New Jedi Order was the last EU project he was really involved in prior to the CGI Clone Wars show (and the lack of any oversight really shows with EU storylines after The New Jedi Order in my opinion).

All of that is to say that, if Lucas really didn't like the idea of Jedi having families and Luke being married, he had plenty of opportunities to nip that in the bud. He had no issue putting rules for the authors in place (no major Original Trilogy characters could die, no one could be more powerful in the Force than Luke or Palpatine, no stories could be set during the Clone Wars era) and totally could have instituted a "Luke cannot have b****es" rule, but he chose not to, as well as he didn't institute such a rule for any of the other Jedi characters: he sat by as Corran Horn(y) spent half of I, Jedi ogling the female characters and every author created a competing OC for Luke to be with.

Another thing Lucas seems to be notorious for is changing his story. Lord knows his take on how many movies were supposed to exist changed from interview to interview. I fully believe he only began to feel that way about Luke and Mara after he came up with the celibacy rules in Attack of the Clones. There's no way he could have felt that way about the Jedi in the 90s because, again, he had plenty of opportunity to establish it much sooner.

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"AdmiralScavenger" replied to "DocWhoFan16":

George Lucas answered questions for the writers of Tales of the Jedi and he never mentioned Jedi could not marry or have children. Nomi Sunrider is a Jedi knight who was married to another Jedi and whose daughter became a Jedi. Even The Phantom Menace doesn't say you can't be married, that didn't happen until Attack of the Clones. Even the Return of the Jedi novelization has Anakin, after Luke removed his helmet, think about his wife for a moment. Anakin's backstory always was that he was married.

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"cricri3007" replied to "Raxtenko":

"I still kept reading the novels, but probably something inside me broke and I didn't really enjoy them anymore, coupled with some very silly DBZ-level power jumps. I left it behind when I saw Starkiller pull that Star Destroyer out of orbit."

Okay, to be fair to Starkiller: if I remember right, the Star Destroyer was actually already damaged and crashing, he "just" made it crash faster so it wouldn't crush the entire city.

Still ludicrously powerful, of course, but at least more believable, if only slightly.

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"ToaArcan" said:

One of the funniest things about this whole saga, in my view, is that the first half of the Battle of Coruscant is still a tangled unknown.

Whereas the EU had multiple contradictory stories about what exactly went down when Grievous launched his attack on the Galactic Capital and made off with the Chancellor, the new canon has... very little. It just uses the broad-stroke attempts to marry the contradictory material together from Legends.

For all that most of the EU has been superseded by new material, the Gordian knot that is the EU's take on the Battle of Coruscant continues to linger on, being confusing.

It's somewhat understandable, though. With the exception of Season 7 of the actual Clone Wars TV show, Disney has been somewhat reluctant to revisit the Prequel era — Disney Star Wars is basically all Original Trilogy and things that look like the Original Trilogy. The Sequel era also got basically dropped off a cliff after The Rise of Skywalker stumbled into cinemas and we went right back to Original Trilogy fanservice. And with them only having so many episodes, I can see why Dave Filoni and Co. didn't cover Coruscant.

Maybe they just couldn't think of a way to convincingly show Lucas's laughably incompetent version of Grievous achieving something as audacious as kidnapping Palpatine.

(Honestly, Grievous is the funniest thing about this whole mess to me: Lucas gave Genndy Tartarovsky, the people at Dark Horse, and whoever was doing the books at the time, nothing but a character design and a vague idea of what he did, and they all decided that General Grievous was the coolest f***ing thing ever; then, Lucas came in two years later and said "Actually, he's the galaxy's biggest loser and all he does is cough and run away", and the fandom have been pissed about it ever since)

"Is it still kinda distracting that we're asked to accept Anakin as a basically good person here when he's already ethnically cleansed a whole village of indigenous people in the previous movie?"

I think I said in the previous Star Wars write-up we had that this is one of those things where the way the Tuskens are framed in older Star Wars material is extremely wonky — Everything the movies showed us gave them all the nuance that a 1st Edition D&D book would give to Orcs. All we know about them from the films is "They ride in single file to hide their numbers, they've been known to murder Jawas for little established reason, they shoot Podracers and kill the pilots for kicks, and they kidnapped a random civilian woman, crippled her husband when he tried to rescue her, and then slowly tortured her to death over the course of weeks because she was... standing right there?"

Tuskens, as portrayed by the movies, are cartoonishly evil. But since then, the "Wait, these are people" thought process has become more common, and that just makes what happened in Episode II even worse. Like, it was already bad, but now it feels more real.

I do think that the decision by the new shows of the Disney era to opt for a "These are victims of colonialism, actually" approach was probably a bit of a dodgy move, though. Nothing says "victim of colonialism" quite like torturing a random woman to death, especially when Shmi Skywalker was only on Tatooine in the first place because she'd been brought from off-world as a slave.

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"Terthelt" replied to "ToaArcan":

I do want to push back a tiny bit on Grievous being a complete loser in the 2nd Clone Wars show. There are actually quite a few episodes where he's depicted as being an unstoppable, menacing general, like the arc in which he wages genocide on the Nightsisters, who aren't exactly pushovers. It's just that he's only able to be the biggest fish in the pond when he isn't fighting any Jedi, and the minute any lightsabres kick on in his direction, he immediately starts to coward out and go for cheap backstabs.

The point is: it totally would've been possible to depict him staging a competent and cool assault on Coruscant, as long as Filoni and crew devised a way to keep every single Jedi on the planet away from Palpatine's office.

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"DocWhoFan16" replied to "Terthelt":

I guess it's hard to get out of the shadow of that very first appearance in the last episode of the 2nd (?) season of Tartarovsky's Star Wars: Clone Wars, where you have Grievous taking on four or five Jedi at once and winning until reinforcements show up and chase him off.

A tough act to follow!

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"radwolf76" replied to "DocWhoFan16":

"[...] where you have Grievous taking on four or five Jedi at once and winning [...]"

And one of those Jedi is essentially Scooby-Doo's Shaggy except with a lightsabre. Admittedly, the story was animated before the full extent of Shaggy's Power was widely understood, so he's kind of a pushover.

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"Lastjedibestjedi" replied to "ToaArcan":

I think the original Tuskens were heavily based on Bedouin tribes.

They were the original inhabitants, didn't especially like Jawas, were very tribal (no central or single group) and would steal your shit with no problem if you were in their territory.

It wasn't until the Prequel Trilogy that they were also slavers and torturers (and I believe it was implied they were rapists as well).

It was a heavy about-face.

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"OmegaPunchers" said:

So… after this and the previous EU write-up, I'm wondering: what exactly made the stuff written by Karen Traviss so divisive?

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"SkyeAuroline" replied to "OmegaPunchers":

Karen Traviss seriously does not understand the media that she writes for. Her Halo books constantly sidetrack into her railing against the parts of the Halo universe she doesn't like, and she stripped down a ton of characterization that was well-liked in favour of a creator's mouthpieces or pointless filler. On top of that, she was constantly f***ing up all the tech and political/social background of the setting. I'm less familiar with her Star Wars work (and only passingly familiar with her Gears of War work, on account of every fan I've encountered saying to stay away from it at all costs); but it's the same sort of phenomenon where she pushed the things she was interested in as the objectively best/correct parts of the setting, belittled anyone who didn't fit into that and warped existing lore to fit what she was pushing.

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"fnOcean" replied to "OmegaPunchers":

In addition to what the other commenter said about her pushing her interests and warping existing lore to fit that, her Mandalorian culture is... pretty racist and sexist. I re-found a post on Tumblr [currently preserved here: https://www.tumbex.com/notallthosewho-wanderarelost.tumblr/post/682272039920435200/] that talks about the issues with her series (and why the clones being Mandalorian doesn't make sense), but the TL;DR is: Traviss wrote Mandalorians as thinking every non-Mandalorian is soulless and needs to assimilate into their culture and forget their own, women are expected to get married at 16, women can't fight unless the men are all gone, and so on; portraying a society like this wouldn't be bad per se, but she also seems to think those are all positive things for a culture to be, and any changing that is bad.

On the non-writing side of things, I can't double-check this because I don't have Twitter, but her likes are apparently full of transphobia, COVID denial, and white supremacy, which definitely illuminates a lot about how she wrote the Mandalorians.

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"RadioactiveOwl95" replied to "fnOcean":

Despite having never read her stuff, everything I heard about her takes on the Mandalorians always gave me a bad vibe of fetishistic militarism that I couldn't quite put my finger on. Can't say her other views are too surprising in that light.

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"DocWhoFan16" replied to "RadioactiveOwl95":

"a bad vibe of fetishistic militarism"

You could make the case that the EU in general could sometimes be a bit... Well, let's look at it this way: at one time, the EU seriously countenanced the idea that Palpatine only created the Empire and set up an oppressive military regime which exerted its authority through terror because he wanted to make the galaxy strong enough to fight the Yuuzhan Vong, and there are many fans who embrace this idea even today.

I mean, leaving aside the fact that this kind of suggests the heroes from the movies were in the wrong for resisting the Empire in the first place, it's a bit like saying Adolf Hitler "only" set up Nazi Germany because he wanted to make Western Europe strong enough to fight the Soviet Union, isn't it?

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"iknownuffink" replied to "DocWhoFan16":

The way I remember it being talked about was that people like Thrawn were explicitly trying to make the galaxy orderly, unified and, most of all strong, enough to withstand their impending invasion. But Ol' Sheev Palpatine was still fully on the "It's all about me, and being cacklingly evil for funsies" train. He wasn't truly worried about the Vong, because he was arrogant and considered himself superior. Though it did provide another explanation for why there was always a new Secret Super-Weapon of the Week that Palpatine had his wrinkly hands in.

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"Inevitable_Citron" replied to "DocWhoFan16":

Oh man, the Yuuzhan Vong. That was a trip and a half.

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"wendigo72" replied to "DocWhoFan16":

I mean... Han Solo in the books of The New Jedi Order calls out that the “The Empire was good because of the Vong” idea was incredibly stupid.

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"ThunderDaniel" replied to "DocWhoFan16":

Oh man, I'm not even a Star Wars fan, but every time I hear nerds justify Palpatine's actions as being done to unite the galaxy against a future threat outside the Star Wars galaxy... Well, I kinda laugh knowing that they take it unironically. It feels like a revisionist cop-out that is so hard to believe in if you understood at all who the Emperor is in all the movies.

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"DocWhoFan16" replied to "Inevitable_Citron":

My understanding is the Yuuzhan Vong were the backup plan, because the original idea was that the extra-galactic invaders would be the Sith coming back to take some more revenge; George Lucas shot that down in the planning stages when ideas were sent to him for approval, arguing that it would be impossible for a Sith society to survive long enough to travel between galaxies because the Sith are inherently treacherous and any society they created would inevitably collapse when they destroyed each other and themselves.

Not an unreasonable position to take, though it is a little surprising, in light of this, that Tales of the Jedi, Knights of the Old Republic, Legacy, the MMO The Old Republic and Lost Tribe of the Sith were all allowed out when they all portray (mostly) functioning Sith societies!

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"DocWhoFan16" replied to "wendigo72":

Sure, but it doesn't stop Star Wars fans from taking the idea at face value, does it?

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"DocWhoFan16" replied to "ThunderDaniel":

Same deal with Grand Admiral Thrawn, to be honest, though at least Thrawn doesn't have the whole "obviously evil space wizard" thing going on. Even so, I sometimes feel like cheering on Grand Admiral Thrawn is a bit like cheering on Claus von Stauffenberg or Erwin Rommel, you know what I mean?

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"GoneRampant1" replied to "OmegaPunchers":

Her Mandalorian books involved a lot of... How do I put this nicely...? Wanking of the Mandalorians and shunning the Jedi by painting them in an unflattering light. Traviss wore her biases on her sleeves and would warp canon in order to have her mouthpieces talk about how the Mandos could totally beat the Jedi in the battleground of ideas using superior Facts And Logic.

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"moorlu" replied to "GoneRampant1":

The Legacy of the Force series really showed her single-mindedness regarding the Mandalorians. They cycled between authors for every book, and while the other two would leave Mandalore behind, you could rest assured that the next Traviss book would take us straight back there to show us how flawed the Jedi were and how the Mandalorians were the only hope to save the galaxy from Darth Caedus. It got tiresome fast.

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"ReverendDS" replied to "OmegaPunchers":

To preface this, I'm a huge Star Wars nerd and have been my entire life. I've read every book multiple times (seriously, every few years I re-read the entire Star Wars chronology), I've played every game, I've watched every episode of everything. And I've been doing this for nearly 40 years. And I'm a huge Republic Commando fan and won't try to hide my bias in this regard.

The first part of the drama is that Karen Traviss, in everything she writes — in any IP she writes for, sticks to a very "things like morality aren't black and white, they are muddled and gray and shifting" approach and constantly calls out things that are objectively evil — even when the intentions are pure or for the good of all.

Unfortunately, most audiences don't have the emotional maturity to deal with things like nuance or to be able to approach a fictional work and pick up more than the most obvious and subtle-as-a-brick-through-a-window of themes.

Karen Traviss used the extremely egalitarian society of the Mandalorians to train the clones of the Grand Army of the Republic, and then further used that society to point out the inherent wrongness of the Republic and the Jedi of that time.

None of her characters are "good" people, and she doesn't shirk from showing that and the consequences of it. But they try to do right by their code, which can put them at odds with the trite "good vs evil" that is so prevalent.

She called out a lot of the hypocrisy of the Jedi, often with the blunt hammer of having Jedi characters being the ones to face the decisions and make the choices.

Due to the audience's aforementioned lack of emotional maturity, she was labeled a "Jedi hater", despite the fact that two of her characters, as Jedi, are some of the best examples of the Jedi philosophy out of any other characters that exist in universe.

She does have pieces of her books that could be interpreted as problematic, but to be honest, I've never particularly cared if there are themes and situations in a fictional universe that would be problematic in the real world — my experiences growing up have shown that way f***ing worse happens in the real world on a daily basis.

People call out the early-twenties Jedi woman sleeping with and being impregnated by the chronologically ten-year-old clone, like it's some kind of endorsement of pedophilia, instead of reading what was actually on the page and realizing that the ten-year-old clone was being treated like a full fledged adult by the military and Jedi. You can't have it both ways, and Karen Traviss used that situation (and the surrounding context) to highlight the fact that despite being literal brainwashed child soldiers, the clones that made up the GAR were also adult men and had their own passions and desires, and how utterly insanely evil it was to treat them like wind-up soldiers.

Yes, her books are often set in extremely popular IPs, and she uses her books to point a huge mirror at the universe she's writing in.

The second major problem is that Karen Traviss engaged with the public and happened to be a woman. A lot of the Karen Traviss hate at the time was coming from the same folks (and type of folks) that jumped into GamerGate with both feet.

I'm not saying that all criticism of her and her work stems from this, but most of the criticism you'll ever see about her does, present-day Twitter stuff excluded as I've not kept up with her on that front. It's very similar to some of the more prevalent hate of the Sequels. Sure, there's some legitimate criticism in there, but a lot of it is covered up in a weird misogynistic wrapping.

And the third part is, much like a lot of the Twilight hate, the vast majority of the online critique comes from people who haven't even bothered engaging with the media in question. They are primarily regurgitating the criticism of others but haven't actually read it themselves.

Hell, even on Star Wars subreddits or even people I know in offline life; and I acknowledge that it's purely anecdotal, but from the people I've talked to about it, when they lay into the Traviss hate, they haven't actually read anything she's ever written. At best, they've read a couple of snippets that include a hundred words or so, used by some Tumblr post to "prove" something while ignoring the wider point.

So yeah, is she the best author in the world? No. Did she do more to flesh out the characters and drama of the Clone Wars in a mature and nuanced way? F*** yeah, she did. Is she outspoken about her contributions to the universes that she criticises when she writes for them? Yeah.

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"superfam" said:

"Likewise, I also recall a lot of particularly pronounced ill-feeling among Star Wars fans towards a new main character the show was going to introduce, a young female Jedi learner named Ahsoka Tano, who would end up being accused of being too perfect, too powerful and, you guessed it, a Mary Sue."

Ahh, Star Wars fans and misogyny, a tale as old as time.

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"VortixTM" replied to "superfam":

This is ironic, considering that, in the Original Trilogy, while barely 2 women exist in the galaxy, one of them is a badass princess who ends up mostly rescuing herself despite the heroes, and the other was the freaking leader of the Rebel Alliance.

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"Mike_Ropenis" replied to "superfam":

I was a huge Star Wars fan because of the Original Trilogy and the EU novels, and lukewarm on the Prequels. After Disney, I'm not a huge fan of the Sequel Trilogy, but I think Rogue One was awesome and casting is the only thing they got right in the Sequel Trilogy (Driver, Ridley, Isaac, Boyega, Gleeson... Amazing cast).

I piss off a lot of people whenever I say this on Reddit, but Luke Skywalker is basically a male Mary-Sue — he literally blows up a Death Star the first time he flies a starfighter in a vacuum — like... Ok, he flew T-16 on Tatooine so he's able to navigate the Death Star trench the first time he flies an X-Wing in space? LOL. And Anakin pulls the same shit in The Phantom Menace! A ten-year-old who pod-raced on Tatooine is suddenly an expert pilot against an army of droids.

Like... The whole series is a bunch of overpowered plot-armoured main characters. Either you love all or you hate all, but picking and choosing which are unrealistic and which aren't is embarrassing and often comes from a sexist place.

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"diluvian_" replied to "Mike_Ropenis":

Capable, powerful, or gifted characters do not constitute a Mary-Sue.

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"Mike_Ropenis" replied to "diluvian_":

I mean, I essentially agree — either all those characters are, or none of them are. I just think it's funny that some loud fans think only the female characters are.

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"ToaArcan" replied to "Mike_Ropenis":

It's a term that's lost all meaning, it basically just means "Female character that I dislike" now.

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"Dayraven3" replied to "ToaArcan":

Seems to me that when the emphasis was on the character being an author-identification figure, it got applied quite freely to either gender. The shift to meaning ‘too perfect’ was accompanied by the term becoming strongly sexist.

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"UnsealedMTG" replied to the 1st reply of "Mike_Ropenis":

What are you talking about? How could the character of Luke Skywalker possibly be some sort of power fantasy self-insert in a series created by George Lucas? That's absurd!

(More seriously, I think this is a great illustration of how the concept of a "Mary-Sue" makes sense in fanfiction, where it originated: the idea that a story is being warped around a self-insert OC that solves all the problems and Kirk and Spock both fall in love with — to the point where it seems pointless for anyone other than the author. In original fiction —where the main character is the main character—, there is no similar objection. But if George Lucas were to write Star Wars as a fanfic for a serious space fighter pilot show, Luke would be the Maryest of all possible Sues.)

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"Dayraven3" replied to "UnsealedMTG":

I guess it's generally more of a glaring issue in fanfiction, but I'd say it's still quite possible in original fiction to have a blatant author identification figure who's pointless for anyone else.

Or, to put it another way, I’ve read some of Robert A. Heinlein's later novels.

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"Smoketrail" replied to the 1st reply of "Mike_Ropenis":

"I piss off a lot of people whenever I say this on Reddit, but Luke Skywalker is basically a male Mary-Sue [...]"

If you really want to upset hardcore Star Wars fans, say that about Thrawn.

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"balinbalan" replied to "Smoketrail":

Thrawn's abilities are almost magical and I'm surprised the old EU didn't make him force-sensitive, since virtually anybody with any competency ended up becoming a Jedi.

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"blisteredfingers" replied to the 1st reply of "Mike_Ropenis":

"Either you love all or you hate all, but picking and choosing which are unrealistic and which aren't is embarrassing and often comes from a sexist place."

This is exactly what we're seeing now with the Obi-Wan TV series and Moses Ingram, who plays Reva: people are saying her doing jumps and flips is "too unrealistic"; meanwhile, she's hunting down f***ing Obi-Wan, who's having PTSD flashbacks of his own jumpy & flippy fight with Anakin from Revenge of the Sith.

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"AndrewTheSouless" replied to "superfam":

Ok, but to be fair, she did kinda suck at the beginning, like "you go back to the early seasons and think '¿Oh shit, was I just blinded by nostalgia'" kind of bad.

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"DisserviceToVanilla" replied to "AndrewTheSouless":

Also, to be frank, I didn't watch the show, but my friend did and we would watch the "behind the scenes" videos put online with showrunners and others talking whenever they were especially ridiculous. The only one I really remember is one where the guy thought Ahsoka cutting a square instead of a circle in a wall with her lightsabre to break in somewhere was the height of intellectuality, and I'd swear he'd had an edible before that interview...

So, I think that's where early Ashoka was coming from, LMAO.

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"ToaArcan" replied to "AndrewTheSouless":

I kinda like that she started out a little bratty and impulsive, and matured rapidly over the course of the first couple of seasons. Her development is one of the high points of the show.

I do find it extremely funny that the same people that were calling her the worst character ever back when the show started are now among the stans. Like... I saw very few people complaining about how much Season 7 focused on her.

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"mdp300" replied to "ToaArcan":

I hated Ahsoka at first. Not because she was a girl, but because she was this plucky teenager that seemed like she was only there to appeal to tweens, and I was watching the show as a Very Serious Adult (I was like... 23 and an edgy moron).

By the end of the series, Ahsoka was one of my favourite characters in the whole franchise.

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"Silas13013" replied to "superfam":

They ended up being completely right though, at least for Season 1. I only recently got into Star Wars and watched The Clone Wars all the way through, and it was only at the insistence of my friend that I got past Season 1. Ahsoka is an arrogant brat who is good at everything without trying and a constant source of irritation for everyone around her, including the audience.

The creators took this criticism to heart and completely reconstructed Ahsoka's character in Seasons 2 and 3. She learns patience, composure and respect. She experiences loss due to her own actions which get characters killed, and grows from it. She becomes confident, not arrogant, and eventually a teacher herself, and in my opinion, goes from being the worst character in the show to the best.

Someone else compared her to Anakin and Luke and I feel the comparison is really only relevant to Anakin. People weren't upset that Ahsoka was a Mary-Sue, they were upset that she was an annoying Mary-Sue. Same reason baby Anakin is hated: he's an irritating child. Luke is at least likeable and we want him to succeed. Young Anakin could splat against the wall for all I cared about him.

(Note this is only for people who watched the show. People who made up their minds before seeing it are butts.)

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"FonzyLumpkins" replied to "superfam":

Saying the hate for Ashoka in the initial Clone Wars movie is sexism for a terribly written and annoying character is disingenuous. People loved her when she was actually written well. She was really annoying at first impressions, and it wasn't until later works that she actually had a personality where she became awesome.

The hate for Anakin having the personality of cardboard in Episode II, was that sexism as well?

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"Stanakin__Skywalker" replied to "FonzyLumpkins":

The biggest problem with Ahsoka is, and always has been, that she was way too important a character to retroactively insert into the saga. It makes zero sense that Anakin would have a padawan, who is never even alluded to in the movies and did not appear in any of the dozens of Clone Wars stories that existed at the time. She could not reasonably exist in the established Star Wars universe. That is why EU fans hated her so much, not because they were all bigots.

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"InSearchOfGoodPun" replied to "Stanakin__Skywalker":

Well, it's still happening with The Mandalorian, right? She seems like kind of an important person to have sat out all of the events of the Original Trilogy and never be mentioned here (there is probably some dumb excuse they'll make for this, but it's beside the point). This is the problem with trying to create so much content that orbits a "main" storyline (all nine movies) but cannot actually directly interact with the main storyline. The whole project often feels like Gilbert & Sullivan Are Dead!, except it's not a joke.

Edit: there is a ridiculous title mistake above, but I will leave it for humour value.

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"TiffanyKorta" replied to "InSearchOfGoodPun":

The whole project often feels like Gilbert & Sullivan Are Dead!, except it's not a joke.

I think you mean Tag & Bink Are Dead! (though you're probably thinking of Rosencrantz & Guildenstern).

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"Quintaton_16" replied to "Stanakin__Skywalker":

There's only one movie that could even allude to it, which is Revenge of the Sith, and the fact that she's not mentioned there only establishes that she probably isn't his padawan anymore by that time. Something The Clone Wars in no way contradicts.

Also, saying that you can't introduce a new, dynamic, interesting character because her appearance would contradict some tie-in comic is, in my opinion, a much better argument for nuking the idea of canon than it is for hamstringing your own ability to tell a story.

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"jaimeoak" said:

Thanks for sharing this wonderful insight into the war of the Clone Wars and the fickle nature of Star Wars canon :D

I came into star wars fairly recently, and after watching the 6 main films which were out at the time, my next watch was the 2008 Clone Wars series. It is honestly one of my favourite shows and I love its mix of character & political stories. (Although I suppose I do also prefer the Prequels over the Original Trilogy. Scandalous, I know!)

In all fandoms with "official" novelisations/comics, I've always presumed that the stories are officially commissioned but non-canon fanfiction which is just there to serve as extra content for fans to consume — I'm always surprised when they do turn out to be canon.

The Star Wars EU seems so grand it's hard to tell where to start, but I look forward to eventually making my way through it and experiencing the stories involved — With the passion people have for it, there must be some great stuff!

Thanks again for the write-up, it's a really interesting piece of fandom history!

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"page0rz" replied to "jaimeoak":

The Star Wars EU has 3 (well, 4, maybe 5?) pretty distinct eras to go through: the original Del Rey books, which are just classic space adventures starring Han Solo & Chewie or Lando and have basically nothing to do with the Star Wars canon; then, the Bantam Spectra era starting in the 90s, which is what most older fans think of as the EU, and then the Del Rey era when they picked up in the 2000s, which is The New Jedi Order and the Clone Wars

The most important distinction is that, during the Bantam Spectra era, Star Wars was just a book license. Any author was free to make a pitch to the publisher for basically their own OC that could take place at any time (except the Clone Wars) and involve any characters, with no real mandate to collaborate with other authors or their canon. Most tried to anyway because they thought it would be cool, but it's still haphazard. Someone would write a book that takes place 5 years after Return of the Jedi, then someone else would write something set 12 years later, then another person would start inserting stuff in-between or go off in a totally new direction. It got weird and messy all the time, but there's still some worthwhile pulp in there.

When the license changed hands again, Lucasarts took up a role that predicts modern EUs. Instead of having authors pitch ideas, they had editors create a long-term narrative, then hired individual authors to write books around each major beat.

Honestly, if you want to dive into the non-Clone-Wars stuff, I think it works best to look at the Bantam Spectra run as a loose introduction series, then the later series (particularly The New Jedi Order) as a crossover event. That's how the publishers went about it, as The New Jedi Order really did pull from all corners to create something "big", digging out some real deep cuts while trying to use everything from before in some way. The overarching narrative also helps them avoid the "Super-Weapon of the Month" problem that the other books had because everyone wanted to use their own personal toys and OC villains.

I think a lot of people will tell you to just stop after The New Jedi Order, to avoid that Han Solo Syndrome, but that's obviously up to you.

I picked up a trunk (literally) of Star Wars novels once and had a lot of time on my hands.

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"ToaArcan" replied to ""page0rz:

What's the "Han Solo Syndrome", exactly?

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"page0rz" replied to "ToaArcan":

Han Solo was originally meant to die, but producers didn't like losing one of their stars, so he finishes his character arc and then just awkwardly hangs around without much to do. This is an unfortunate fate for many Star Wars characters, as The New Jedi Order was supposed to be an end to the original generation, handing things off to the kids, and Luke especially had this growth and change over a dozen books, leading up to a very satisfying final act, while Han and Leia effectively fly off into the sunset together.

But because the license holders wanted more books and they thought the only way to sell them was by putting the original trio on the covers, they all had to keep hanging around in every new series "just because", cheapening their arcs and drawing attention away from the new characters.

The same thing happened when they eventually made the Sequel movies. Harrison Ford only agreed to come back at all if they would finally kill Han off like they were supposed to do in the first place.

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"iknownuffink" replied to "page0rz:

"Han Solo was originally meant to die, but producers didn't like losing one of their stars [...]"

If I remember correctly, Lucas is also on record saying he wanted a more positive/happy ending for the Original Trilogy, and killing Han would have been counter to that and made it more bittersweet (which Harrison Ford and possibly the director were pitching).

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[blood-mocha-latte]

Hello! I hope you are doing great so far this week. 😌 I'm curious about number 5, 15 and 22 from the Fan Fic Writer Asks, please. Thank you in advance for sharing! 😊

hi!!! i love you!!! this all these asks are making my chevy chase comically bad week!! anyways,,,

5. what’s a fic idea you’ve had that you will never write?

see the thing is that i write for everything i think lmao. maybe 4% of what i write is posted, but it's all written. but a wip that i have a HUGE ass idea for but will probably never finish? webgott pulp fiction au. i love it but i'm a little scared of it tbh. like having a healthy respect for lightning

15. how do you come up with titles for your fics/chapters?

sometimes i'll do lyrics, but only if i think the whole song fits a prompt haha. usually i'm a dramatic ass bitch and choose a poem i really love. the current favorite (which some might be aware of) is keaton st. james. i love everything he's ever written which i WILL be talking about soon (tonight. because i'm on a roll rn wooOOO anyways)

22. do you know how your fic will end before you start writing?

sometimes! like the speirton bonnie and clyde au? .....yeah. other things, like my secret santa fic? hahahaha FUCK no

edit: oh yeah it's from this!

[thebadtimewolf]

give me onscreen fluff no matter the cost

i think rtd2 should kill off dimemsion cannon-toting rose marion tyler. hey. im not saying its not gonna highly anger me if they kill her off doing something ooc because it will if they go down that route. make it make sense based on the material that is given. because this aint early 2000s now. its original and new. and not predictable and yt.

im saying so we can have onscreen scenes of then kissing and holding baby mia because i'll be fucking damned if you gave that to racist joan redfern but NOT TO ROSE????

this is because if meta crisis ten/tentoo does come back, there needs to be a reason why he is there alone. we saw what he does when hes alone and only one person attempts to stop him: he starts blowing shit up. doctordonna AND jackie couldnt stop him from basically being a bomber the whole time.

it'll mull him, not harden him or make him go evil like every predictable fanfic whenever rose dies and hes evil and blah blah. it'll ground him. and i dont want it to be like: oh rose passed away! Any way lets- no.

I want it to where the Doctor doesn't realize something is wrong beyond just tentoo being back. It would be the last thing he would think, the one thing they would never come to the conclusion to. I mean, for us it was decade or so ago but for the doctor, that was essentially billions of years ago. That was just plucked stray eyelash from two years ago in comparison.

And tentoo is keeping up appearences. Even says present tense verbs "she is doing great, she is currently so and so doing whatnot" but then it starts being noticeable. Bit by bit. He used 'did' or 'used to' a few slips. Here and there. Something that can brushed off as parallel world: different rules.

But then, near the climax, a gutpunch - you know rtd love his gutpunches of heartbreak - rose died and tentoo blamed himself for it. [mind you, there is a flashback of rose, teen mia, and tentoo just to establish that a comic or audio isnt now canon.] and its something mundane though not how danny pink initially died. at least mundane enough for it to happen but not too mundane enough to be ANOTHER FRIDGING DEFAULT TROPE.

tentoo and pete was there (yes surprise guest star shaun dingwall) and the look of horror on their face when they both rush out only for it to be too late.

but it gets tentoo to stop being trigger-happy. Yes, he gets hurt, but the reason the reveal happens is him saying something along the lines of 'i can't make my daughter into an orphan'

because if moffat gets a hold of that, he's gonna make stone rose a reality in the most cruellest way of killing off rose. Not send her back in time, just turn her into an irreversible weeping angel with no trace of anything that she used to be except her face and hair. I don't need that NO ONE NEEDS THAT!!! but as far as killing of fan faves go: thats your real motherlode there.

it shows no one is safe. tegan and kate stewart almost proved it to be the case. but killing off rose? rose tyler? dame rose marion tyler of the powell estate? that? that's a huge move. a big move.

but it explains so much in retrospect for 50th in film and novelisation. why the moment expressions are the way they are. why literally 10 and 11 could never see her but war and 13 and superpower companion from brooklyn, ny, gabby gonzalez can. why be a ghost haunting them? why be present yet also not at all to them? why be the yellow wallpaper in a burning room of gold? anyway.

give us what we got in one comic as a wandavision esque for empress rose's perspective but onscreen with the main girl! and we all saw i hate suzie fear ep i cried when her character died. let me repeat myself: i cried when billie's suzie's character in a fictional show within i hate suzie, the zombie show that doesnt exist, died. let her cook! i want my heart feel like regina mills in one of her ✨️always serving evil queen regality✨️came into my house, punched through my chest, crunched my heart like it was a simple wine glass stem and then emotionally tossed my body around like she about to audition for making me a new kind of muppet.

make us fear for EVERY 2005 COMPANION RETURNING (except jack because hes still immortal) make us actually clutch pearls and the fabric covering our stomachs!

[this is the same disney+ that now has uncensored punisher and the last time we had rtd writing in america was miracle day and that was gruesome in itself so 👀😬 the whiplash of heartbreakingly devastating opportunities is right there. especiall since rose is canonically established to be part of pete's world torchwood not unit so. yeah be afraid.]

[grandhotelabyss]

A few weeks after the Kafka vogue, Andrew Martin considers the youth appeal of Osamu Dazai, as filtered through Soundcloud rappers and TikTokkers (repeat after me: "ironic metaphysical quietism"):

To someone with a great deal of interest in postwar Japanese literature and almost no working knowledge of TikTok, anime or manga (surely I’m not the only one), this combination of elements is baffling, if not alarming. What would it mean to unabashedly identify with a novel that turns on the Hobbesian epiphany that society “is the struggle between one individual and another, a then-and-there struggle, in which the immediate triumph is everything”? Why is Dazai, continually in print but long overshadowed in the United States by his philosophical and literary inheritor Yukio Mishima, now prominently featured on display tables at Barnes & Noble and prompting new translations and reissues of his 75-year-old back catalog from New Directions, the venerable independent publisher not exactly known for viral hits?

As a dilettante-generalist, I know equal amounts about postwar Japanese literature, TikTok, anime, and manga—more than the average person off the street but less than the expert or otaku. I'll pass on Bungo Stray Dogs for now; it sounds pretty distant from my interests, though "Kafka Asagiri" is a good name.

I was more or less ordered to read No Longer Human in 2019 by my Japanophiliac art students. One of them ruminated sagely, albeit with a bit too much east-west narrative essentialism of the kind we just saw Naomi Kanakia debunking, on the difference between a culture that prescribes No Longer Human and one that prescribes The Great Gatsby as a schoolbook. I liked No Longer Human, but I can also understand why Mishima overshadows Dazai. Mishima seems a superior novelist to Dazai in something like the same way Dostoevsky is superior to Camus: the former writers have more of the world in their books than the latter. This may render the nihilism impure, but then if your nihilism were pure, you wouldn't write a book in the first place.

Anyway, if any TikTokkers are out there, you may enjoy my essay on Dazai's No Longer Human—

Here we see the distance between Dazai’s fiction and contemporary narratives of the superfluous man, such as Todd Phillips’s Joker, whose delusional hero might have been saved by a good therapist and the love of Zazie Beetz, and who in any case manages in his mental illness to lead, however inadvertently, a legitimate social rebellion. On the absolutist terms offered by No Longer Human, this naturalistic faith in secular salvation, whether through psychology, love, or politics (or, for that matter, money and social status), is all nonsense.

—and my essay on the revered horror mangaka Junji Ito's graphic novel adaptation, into which I also folded a few skeptical thoughts on that overrated film Come and See:

Ito is too literal a visualist of Dazai’s verbal vision—almost as literal as a camera, the way the best comics and films never are. Dazai’s novel gave me more reason to ruminate than did Ito’s manga; likewise, Jerzy Kosinski’s novel The Painted Bird, for all its notorious problems, offers us all the horrors and then some—and all the horrified questions—of Come and See, with much more besides, including a philosophy of individuation that we experience by growing with the protagonist. This happens in the inner theater of the mind, where we feel and think it at once and as the same thing; but the film remains always outside, a beckoning or threatening spectacle that never becomes one’s own, a permanent dissociation of sensibility.

Do you think, in the age of "ironic metaphysical quietism," we can meme The Painted Bird into a TikTok sensation next? It could be said to combine Kafka and Dazai, though it may be too pornographic for our gnostic straight-edge puriteens.