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what hurts the most about dropping miraculous is that i will have to abandon my ladrien interactions tag and that’s a true loss 😔
#miraculous ladybug#text#i literally just did a mental apology to my tag bc god knows it used to be the only mlb thing that i was constantly excited to gif#such a shame#but in a way i'm okay as well because really there's no more ladrien content anyway#so it feels right that i'm leaving anyway#bye ladrien my beloved#i will always remember you as the superior part of the love square that got paid dust
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okay i keep going on my Marichat bullshit about my miraculous rewrite (which i remember now I still haven't posted because yeaaahhhh i'm editing that bitch, i said i wouldn't but this is my rep on the line, not yours)
but i think I might make it so that, whilst Marichat will ALWAYS prevail, it's THE superior ship, Adrien and Mari do start with Ladrien. Just in a... crushing on an idolised version of someone before I become unmeasurable enamoured with their painfully flawed self
like they enjoy the the model and the superhero and all is well and good, innocent crushes. But they get the truly meaningful connection when Adrien's allowed to kick back and be an ass as Chat, and Mari gets to make mistakes as herself without risking, y'know, lives. They're both stupid idiot weirdos together and they start liking that more than the perfection they previously desired.
#no hate to the other love swuare ships this is just personal preference#marichat#miraculous#miraculous ladybug#miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir#chat noir#ladybug#marinette dupain cheng#adrien agreste
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STOP PUTTING THIS SHIT IN THE LADRIEN TAG FFS!!!
The Ladrien tag is for Ladrien content. Not people advocating for the superiority of a different side of the same ship.
(This goes for other lovesquare tags, too, but it happens to Ladrien most often)
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You didn’t ask but I’ll answer anyways because this is fun.
Since it first aired in 2015
No
No
Unfortunately yes. It was not my intention but because I fangirled so hard over the Oblivio episode, I convinced a friend to begin MLB when I didn’t even want her to and now I’m responsible for all her lost neurons.
I saw the trailer on Disney Channel, and the premise intrigued me. I wasn’t completely into the show but when I saw Mari and Adrien together for the first time, I was sold.
Oh gosh I don’t know. I’d want the power to bring stories to life like that one beast episode with Tom.
Lady Wifi. I don’t want to be sent up to sent up to space in a bubble.
The peacock or the fox. Emotion or Illusion are the two I’d wanna work with. Actually the miraculous that gives you another power is cool too. But no I’m sticking with the fox.
Adrienette obviously
Don’t have one
Still adrienette. I like them in civilian form without the masks, completely and honestly themselves.
There’s a cute guy in dark hair and white shirt that I liked. Someone drew him on Pinterest.
French. It’s the original language and anything in the original dub is superior imo.
Don’t have one
Ladrien. We never get them. It’s the ship where they idealized each other and thus puts a barrier between each other they need to overcome.
The Bakery ennemies one. I’m basic. I also started reading the one where Mari gets the Butterfly.
the Scarlet Lady AU.
CGI
That one cute guy I mentioned in answer 12.
They have other songs featured on the show?
Volpina. Illusions are a great way to deceive enemies.
Besides Adrien and Luka, no one else.
Season 5 Adrien specifically. The fans have ruined Felix and his coolness for me. It would have been him.
Obviously kill Queen Bee. Marry Rena and Kiss Carapace.
Venom. Usually I’d pick Mirage as a power but Venom is cool. It’s a one punch KO.
Chat Noir
Lucky Charm
Any love square scene from Elation, Determination, Passion and Mayura’s transformations.
The episodes I mentioned in the last question. Plus Oblivio, Origins part 2, Ephemeral, Emotion.
The boys
Qilin, Chat Blanc, puppeteer has cool powers, Gamer 2.0 and who doesn’t love the OG villain; Stormy Weather. The fights involving her are so cool. Also that second time Sabrina got akumatized when she absorbed powers that hit was cool too, whatever her name was. Ephemeral’s design was cool. Sandman was awesome as well. And Nathalie’s Hunter form was cool too.
Until Hawkmoth is defeated neither, because it doesn’t end well in both scenarios. But Mari learning Chat is Adrien was my preferred scenario.
They’re all so cute. Especially when Gabriel bullied one of them and the others came to their defense. Barkk is standing out to me right now. And I feel bad for Nooroo.
Chloe for being an awful, entitled bitch. Felix for being deceitful. Gabriel for obvious reasons.
Bunnyx. She’s the coolest. Mister Bug and Lady Noire are great too.
Cat Obviously. I love puns. I’d totally hang out with him and listen to his puns and take note.
I liked them. At this point, I feel Mari truly is made for Adrien. I love Luka with all my heart but I feel he deserves someone for himself too. Doesn’t matter if it’s not Marinette.
Kagami deserved better but I’m happier she helped Adrien be more confident in himself and I love that for both of them. In short, no. I like them platonically.
She still seems to give Lila the benefit of the doubt and convinces Mari to be civil with her. I didn’t like how she thought she was right about Chloe being LB back in the day but I can forgive that. Everyone was still new to the whole Miraculous thing.
Girl is resourceful, ambitious, a quick thinker, dedicated to the truth and is moral about it. The best thing about her is that she’s got Mari’s back in any situation.
I’d be quite happy if her parents did so that Mari’s support system grows even more and they can help cover her LB activities when necessary.
Never… I Hope she wakes up at the end of season 5 to wrap up the Agreste Family chapter and move on to Lila. But she doesn’t I will laugh because that means we’ll keep having Gabriel attempt crazy shit to wake her up.
With how LB treated her last season? No. Chat Deserves more credit and love and I believe he’s about to get it.
Don’t have one. Oh wait… Ivan and Mylène. They’re so cute together. Besides them, DJ Wifi and Adrienette, they’re aren’t enough ships I’ve liked or been exposed to enough.
Anyone André the ice cream man has given a cone to. I’d love to see other love stories in MLB.
A solid 8. She’s pretty cool.
As eons old friends yes.
Hell yeah. I love that stuff. I need to watch more.
Not while Hawkmoth is around. If the reveal happens in season 5, I wonder how they’d use villains if they ever found about Mari and Adrien. Honestly, I think it’s never a god idea to have these two together while they have Miraculouses.
Nathalie. Her last name means heartless and she really seems so. She’s so capable and loyal and deadly when necessary. Felix is cool too. He loves so deeply that he’s willing to wipe off the earth for the people he loves.
Lila, Chloe, Mayor Bourgeois. They’re pretty annoying.
That young girl who looks like Marinette who works in that paint shop, Socqueline. I have a feeling she’s Ladybug, yo.
The ship or Black Cat Mari? Either way the answer is yes.
French obviously. And the one from seasons 1-3. I can’t stand the voices of those two kids who replaced Marily and Noam Kaniel for the theme song. Those two sounded just like French Mari and Adrien.
No.
Benjamin Bollen and Anouck Hautbois from the French VAs. Plagg’s English VA. Zeno Robinson is apparently in this show too.
Meh. I don’t have any strong opinions on it.
I don’t do theories.
Aqua. I’d love to breathe underwater.
Adrien, Juleka and Felix.
Felix is really not as bad as he seems to be. I’m sure there’s more to this funky super genius. Yes he tried to kiss Mari without her content and that’s not ok. He can always learn to be better. Yeah I’d don’t have any unpopular hot takes.
Master Fu. I wanna be the wise mystical sensei with a box of magic jewelry.
Questions to know more about your mutuals! Miraculous Ladybug edition
For how long have you been watching Miraculous Ladybug?
Have you ever cosplayed as a MLB character?
Have you bought MLB merch?
Have you gotten any of your friends or family members into Miraculous Ladybug?
How did you get into Miraculous Ladybug?
If you were akumatized, what would be your power?
Would you rather being attacked by Ladywifi or The Bubbler?
If you could have any miraculous, which one would it be?
What’s your favorite ship?
What’s your sinful ship?
What’s your favorite love square ship?
Who is your favorite background character?
What’s your preferred dub?
What opinions do you find overrated and/or underrated about MLB?
What’s your least favorite love square ship?
What’s your favorite fanfic?
What’s your favorite AU?
Original PV or CGI?
What character would you like to see get a Miraculous?
What’s your favorite MLB featured song?
Reflekta, The puppeteer, Volpina and Dark Cupid; one is fighting by your side, the rest of them are trying to kill you, who would you choose as ally?
What MLB character do you have a crush on?
Who do you like better: Adrien or Félix?
Marry, kiss and kill: Rena Rouge, Carapace, or Queen Bee?
Mirage, Shellter, or Venom?
Ladybug or Chat Noir?
Lucky Charm or Cataclysm?
What’s your favorite scene?
What’s your favorite episode?
Would you rather having a sleepover with the gang of secrets or with The Boys™?
What’s your favorite akumatized villain?
Would you rather Chat Noir knowing LB’s identity or viceversa?
What’s your favorite Kwami?
What’s your least favorite Miraculous holder?
Favorite Miraculous transformation sequence?
Would You Rather be in Hawk Moth's lair for a day or have to listen to Cat Noir constantly use cat puns towards you for a whole day?
How do you feel about Lukanette?
How do you feel about Adrigami?
What's one thing that you don't like about Alya?
What is a good quality that makes Alya stand out?
Who do you think would accidentally find out about Mari's identity?
When do you think Emilie Agreste will wake up?
Do you personally think Chat gets enough credit?
Favorite Miraculous-holders ship?
What's a ship that's not in the show too much that needs more screen time?
On a scale of 1-10 how good do you think Mela Lee plays Tikki?
Do you ship Plikki?
Do you enjoy Miraculous crack?
You are in a table with Ladybug and Cat Noir. You know their true identities. Will you reveal them to each other?
Favorite character? and why?
Which character would you not mind if they were to leave Paris ?
Wrong answers only-Who could Ladybug be?
Do you like Ladynoire?
Do you perfer the french version of the Miraculous theme song or the English version?
Do you like The wall between us?
Who's your favorite actor/actress on this show?
Do you like the episode Pixelator?
What is a theory that you are willing to share?
Aqua or ice powers?
Which character do you relate the most?
What’s your unpopular opinion about the show?
Would you rather cosplay Jade Turtle or Master Fu?
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Adrien didn't fall in love with Marinette's superhero self on accident. Marinette didn't fall in love with Adrien's civilian self on accident.
Reversing the love square without seriously developing their characters from where they started (or, often, outright changing their characters) is to fundamentally change what the love square is.
Adrien fell in love with Ladybug because he saw her at her most stressed out, where she felt like all eyes were on her and she'd never be able to fix her mistake, and then you know what she did? She picked herself back up and fixed her mistake.
Adrien went to school after that and fixed his mistake, too, by making things right with Marinette.
Marinette fell in love with Adrien because she saw his persistent kindness even after she'd decided she didn't like him. She saw the way he refused to reflect back the worst of her and decided to do the same. She made things right, too, by not judging him based on their first impressions (not to mention how that likely impacted her relationships with Chloé and Kagami).
They fell in love with the person they needed the most. The one they needed to be more like. If you change who they initially fell in love with, you change a fundamental part of why they fell in love, and you fundamentally change the love square.
But some of y'all aren't ready for that talk.
#tagging this as#marichat salt#even though i wouldnt call it that#its not so much marichat that i dislike#as it is the way people treat marichat as the#'superior ladrien'#since i recognized how drenched in sexism and gender roles that view is i cant unsee it#not to mention how little people value marichat as a friendship.#like?? platonic love is not lesser than romantic love#its just as good and honestly probably more helpful to both of them with where theyre at#marinette does not need romantic prospects rn. she needs a friend#adrien does not need someone to put him on a pedastal. he needs someone who will care for him through thick and thin#anyway
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it is so funny how ppl in this fandom consistently forget that the love square are the same two people. how tf can u say u hate one side of the square or dont ship it. THEYRE THE SAME TWO PEOPLE. HELLO
#text post#yes this is about the people who shit on ladrien#if u dont like ladrien we cant be friends#also like. as a person who enjoys marichat#maybe the people who prefer that dynamic need to uhh sit down and stop shitting on other sides of the squarae#just bc they believe their fav dynamic is superior#what is wrong with u#childish behavior#this is coming from someone whose favorite side of the square is marichat
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I wasn't a marichat shipper since the START for nothing
#miraculous ladybug#mlb spoilers#we won#it feels nice to be the superior ship#ladrien shippers i feel u now#marichat
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HAVENT WATCHED MIRACULOUS IN YEARS WYM THEY REVERSED THE LOVE SQUARE
#miraculous ladybug#marichat#adrienette#ladynoir#ladrien#LIKE WDYM MARINETTE HAS FEELINGS FOR CHAT#AND ADRIEN HAS FEELINGS FOR MARINETTE#I USED TO PRAY FOR TIMES LIKE THESE?!#ESPECIALLY MARICHAT#IN THE YEAR OUR LORD AND SAVIOR 2022#MY GOD#marichat is still superior argue with the wall#mace rambles
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ladrien hate is gross wbdhsbfndd
n e ways I stan a prince and his knight in shining armor ✨
#pls its so annoying having to see literal paragraphs of why ladrien sucks and marichat is superior#makes me not like marichat so much but cant do anything about that 🤪#theyre the same people theyre the same people omg#pls shut up#if you hate them i—#ml fandom salt#fandom salt#ill tag it just in case#buggy blabbers#ya ya dont mind me :p
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‘ladrien cant work because they put each other on the pedestial’ okay then, what if you create situations where they both are being ‘themselves’, create narratives where they have to confront this fact, or talk about it in adrien’s room or a rooftop while chewing on a croissant or four? (as ladrien not as other sides). they could still rediscover each other, fall in love again, be the bffs they are and be silly and stupid and angsty anything the writer/artist/etc wants them to be.
fanworks is all about creating scenarios and conflicts and working with it, not necessarily adhering to canon. ‘they put each other on a pedestial’ is nothing but a person putting a boundary, an excuse, to not wanting to explore them further and, frankly, i find it to be v feeble. like damn that statement right there is a baseline to build something on, not the conclusion
#i wanted to keep this in the drafts but ummm it was a mistake going through the ladrien tag#i can make an entire post deconstructing and each and every take on them because oh gosh. like i get we are all biased but *oh my gosh*#some of you do need to like. actually WATCH the show and get off the high horse of 'mar///ichat superiority' and 'true selves' bs#luna speaks
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ladrien is such an underrated pairing with ALL KINDS OF OPPOTUNITY TO IT but it’s the ONLY love square ship that didn’t make the top 100 in the tumblr review and
that’s.
just.
disappointing.
Y’all are like:
ADRINETTE *hearteyes*
LADYNOIR *fainting*
MARICHAT *desperation and longing*
MEANWHILE IM OVER H E R E
loving damsel in distress Adrien Agreste and his buff, kick ass superhero gf.
thank you goodnight
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i recently finished miraculous ladybug and julie and the phantoms and now i need to follow people who post about them
#miraculous#miraculous ladybug#adrien agreste#marinette dupain cheng#ladynoir#adrinette#marichat is superior#marichat#ladrien#julie and the phantoms#reggie and luke are literally in love#sunset curve#jatp#julie and the fat ones
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Adrienette, Ladynoir and Ladrien fighting with Lukanette.
Marichat cheering on them, bouncing, having no idea what is going on exactly. Adrigami stands next to them, enjoying what is happening, but not engaging.
Meanwhile Lukadrien and Kagaminette are sharing smoothies, only partially judging the other ships.
#gay ships are superior#for real#no drama#lukadrien#kagaminette#adrienette#ladynoir#ladrien#lukanette#adrigami#marichat#miraculous ladybug
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MariChat
ship is best ship, because they can be their True Selves™.
They're not acting like idiots in love!
Just Pure Unadultered Idiots
#miraculous ladybug#marinette Dupain Cheng#chat noir#marichat#love square#marichat is clearly superior#they're not masked by perfection#so they can be as ridiculous as they really are#they really really are#not that ladrien aren't fools#it's just that astruc won't give ladrien the time of day#ladrien doesn't exist#has anyone else noticed#ml crack
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half of miraculous fanart is reveals 💔💔💔 when will we finally get them in canon 💔💔💔💔💔💔
#i need them NOW#also yes i know theyre all the same people by ladynoir and marichat are superior i love adrien out of costume but he’s stupud#marinette dupain cheng#miraculous#adrien agreste#ladynior#marichat#adrienette#ladrien
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chapter 35 comes a little shorter than normal but with that marichat content so many of you crave
read it here
#miraculous ladybug#miraculous ladybug fic#ml#ml fic#mlb#mlb fic#ladrien is superior but i have to admit marichat has rights
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