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Lord give me strength. Just had to (after sitting on it for a while) respond to a comment on my fic to tell someone I'm gonna be sympathetic to Alicent & have very different opinions on some of the characters (in the nicest & most diplomatic, "I am not addressing all of this" way possible) so they could make an informed decision on if they want to keep reading this absolute behemoth.
#personal#fic: sins of the father#'i hate Criston in every fic he is in' babe hasnt DONE anything in my fic#'luke is the only one who felt bad about what happened to Aemond' babe WHERE?#'yorick would be neutral in the war i think since you dont seem explicitly team black'#he would rhaenys to satan for a chance to kill daemon in cold blood#is team black so starved for nuanced fic#that they will ignore me not condemning alicent as an agent of the patriarchy/not writing nyra as a pop feminist#and sprinkling in Rhaenyra being so selfish & entitled she thinks she can own her boy cousin/play as ella's self insert in games#and being critical of corlys & viserys#JUST to have someone treat the velaryon siblings & aemma with respect & approach everyone with enough care to make them ACTUAL CHARACTERS?#bc i had kind of assumed i was pretty obviously green leaning with the whole#'fuck viserys & daemon. all my homiee hate viserys & daemon. i am going to disrespect them every time theyre here'#Lord#shame to see them go but they gotta know what they're getting in for later BEFORE we get there#bc i feel like if they can ignore it till its OBVIOUS (driftmark) then they'll have sunk too much time just to get slapped in the face with#'anyway stan alicent'#y'know?
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"Effie, don't be a stranger."
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#hayffie#effie trinket#haymitch abernathy#the hunger games#elizabeth banks#woody harrelson#mockingjay#thg#alice art#anyway i'll be a hayffie stan forever ig#goodnight.
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BRYNDEN RIVERS MY MAN
#THEY REALLY DID THAT SHIT#literally spent the past month starting to stan bloodraven and then all of a sudden there my man is#also HELLO DANY THE PRINCE THAT WAS PROMISED?? YES??#anyways goddamn what a finale#could havr been a little better but lots of good moments#i was screaming for alicent and rhaenyra to kiss my gaydar was breaking the needle#that ending set up montage was kinda fire too full bodied chills#and then daemon rallying the troops for rhaenyra like okay maybe he gets a lil character development#also the implications that helaena was directly speaking to him I think??#anyways i wanna get a good smack in for ulf dude needs to stfu#ughhhhh why do we have to wait so long for season 3#fishgills speaks#house of the dragon#hotd#hotd spoilers#house of the dragon spoilers#house of the dragon finale#brynden rivers
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"rhaenys could have ended the war by dracarysing all the greens right there" yes because a distant relation to the throne deciding to barbecue an anointed and publicly positively hailed king and his entire family who is well loved within the city and in multiple other parts of the country for the sake of the succession of a far-away princess no one was ever on board with who hasn't been seen by the populace in literal years, her psycho husband, her three obvious bastards, and two toddlers from the psycho husband would go over super well with westeros and especially in king's landing where scores of the still-cheering population were killed for no reason by that same dragon who would do the barbecuing, because when targaryens act unilaterally without thinking of how the people would react there's never any problem, which is why the storming of the dragonpit and robert's rebellion were actually just collective delusions dreamed up by readers who hate rhaenyra and not key parts of the story and house targaryen's history that directly contributed to their demise and are intrinsic to the plot
truly team black stans are made up of only the most genius and media literate amongst us
#personal#house of the dragon#anti team black#i mean i guess??#like the crowd was cheering for aegon HARD#and they were always on board with aegon#and the hightowers are a powerful house with a lot of allies#and alicent and helaena specifically were well loved by the people in king's landing and the realm at large#and none of them ever liked rhaenyra or daemon who again have been MIA for basically a decade already#and again targaryens overreaching their power and not taking the people into account#is the reason why their house fell into oblivion and now rests entirely on a FIFTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL WHO IS THE ONLY ONE LEFT#if she roasted the dais the mob wouldn't have even let her leave they'd have killed her and meleys both in a heartbeat#storming of the dragonpit but a couple months earlier#the thing to remember is that i think a lot of team black stans are just kinda stupid#and do not care about the story at all or the actual intricacies of the world and its politics that is so important to the dance#(remember the rumors of rhaenyra mistreating helaena and alicent literally led to rhaenyra's death)#(because it led to the mobs and the storming of the dragonpit and the death of joffrey and her being driven out)#(and thus having to go to dragonstone where sunfyre got a little meal out of the whole debacle good for him)#(along with all of her ten million other shitty political decisions)#how do you profess to be pro-targaryen without even knowing targaryen history and where they erred and how that ended them#like *i* like the targaryens you guys have heard me talk about the conquerors all the livelong day#but i am also smart and i understand the world george created and the concept of repercussions#anyway yeah i am Annoyed at that new daemon clip (wow what a shock something annoyed me and had daemon in it)#(my least favorite character who could have foreseen this)
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Team Black won't like it when they realise the "Hightowers with Targ colouring" have more Targaryen blood than their fav Dany
Also why is this an argument lol "my teams better than yours because we're more inbred" is a strange hill to die on
#pro team green#pro targtowers#aegon ii targaryen#king aegon ii targaryen#aemond targaryen#queen helaena targaryen#helaena targaryen#queen alicent#alicent hightower#otto hightower#daeron targaryen#daeron the daring#hotd#house of the dragon#anti team black#anti team black stans#anyways bye#*blows this whole place up*
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quick how shocking is it that an alicent stan is claiming that DAENERYS of all people isn’t an ‘actual mother’ and that her only children are her ‘fur babies’ and how DARE she be included in a mother’s day post?
she’s the mother of dragons (they were extinct for over a hundred years, she dreams of her hatching them by walking into a great fire, literally breastfeeds them as if they were her own), she’s ‘mhysa’ to the freedmen AND missandei, she became pregnant at 13 after being routinely raped for months and gave birth to a stillborn son. a baby she wanted so desperately, and it’s disingenuous and nasty af to reduce the bonds she’s procured with her dragons, the people she’s freed from their shackles, and her actual dead child(ren, maybe, bc she might have had a miscarriage at the end of adwd) to ‘can’t stand a fur baby bitch’ i am in your fucking walls.
i forget though, the only women deserving of sympathy in universe need to be given made up rape and abuse storylines in order for their suffering to count. not the THIRTEEN YEAR OLD who was sold into slavery, married off against her will to a 30 year old warlord, raped repeatedly to the point she wanted to die; along with being sexually exploited and physically abused by her brother, the only living family member she had left. they also need to be a white red headed woman who’s either an abusive piece of shit or a massive ungrateful xenophobe. i hope you have that same energy when a real life person loses their baby, make sure to tell them that because their kid is dead they can’t call themselves a parent anymore.
#i’m tired of her stans talking#u like one of the most inconsistent characters#whose only personality trait is her victimhood#‘alicent was a child!’ she isn’t anymore!!! you know who still is? dany you absolute bafoons#acting like rhaego being dead removes dany’s motherhood#this line of thinking applies to miss locked in chains too considering she outlives all of her kids#no longer a mother 😢 so sad. anyways#asoiaf#daenerys targaryen#pro daenerys targaryen#mother of dragons#mhysa#queen daenerys#anti alicent hightower#anti alicent stans#stop bringing dany into stupid hotd discourse 2k24#continue having your mid offs in private#i also do like sansa (just not her show version) so this is no hate to her!
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that one team green stan who brought up colonization in our argument then blocked me, kept claiming she was team “small folk” but exclusively only wrote essay length posts about her hatred for Rhaenyra and other Targaryens but never about how the Hightowers/other noble families of Old Town and the militant Faith of the Seven lead a religious based war with the intention of colonizing and converting the entire content of Westeros to the faith causing many small folk to lose their lives, some (Northerners) who still face suppression and ridicule for worshiping the Old Gods all the way up to AGOT’s era. all this hundreds of years before the Targaryens even stepped foot in Westeros. and kept ignoring how Aemond burned the Riverlands with the small folk still there. you can’t both be “team small folk” AND “team representation of the oppressive catholic church” lol the layers of hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me.
#but apparently *i* never read the books 🤣#anyway#GRRM wrote 10000 years of history and lore for a REASON#mainly for Dany#but also for little hints like these!#he also is a historian#and was literally inspired by the catholics when making the faith of 7#anti alicent stans#anti green stans#anti team green#anti greens#anti alicent hightower#pro rhaenyra targaryen#pro rhaenyra#pro team black#princess rhaenyra targaryen#rheanyra targaryen#hotd rhaenyra#rhaenyra targeryan#rhaenyra targaryen#queen rhaenyra#house targaryen#house hightower#faith of the seven#old town#otto hightower#hotd jacaerys#daemon targaryen#aemond targaryen
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Let's be real here, if Rhaenyra had been anything like Cersei she would have had Alicent killed the moment she caught wind of her visiting her father's chambers just shy after Aemma's death. Alicent wouldn't have had a chance to plead her case because Rhaenyra would have shoved her down a flight of stairs or hired someone to take her out. Remember, Cersei shoved her only friend down a well for the small crime of having a childish crush on her twin brother...imagine what she would have done to Alicent if she found out that her "best friend" was seeing her father, The King, behind her back.
#house of the dragon#hotd#rhaenyra targaryen#anti alicent stans#anti alicent hightower#anti team green#anti team green stans#if anything Rhaenyra was too fucking nice#Alicent wielded their former friendship as a weapon to get away with abuse and harassment#and Rhaenyra tried to keep the peace and even attempted to make amends with her through marriage#anyways as much as I hate Cersei that woman was proactive when it came to dealing with her enemies#rhaenyra was far too kind and to compare her to cersei or maegor is just pure nonsense#cersei and maegor would have ended the hightower's schemes so fast
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you guys wanna praise me for how normal i'm being rn
#the swingset specifically being the one stan and ford used to play on as kids/it's broken because ford is missing/fell through the portal...#stanley pretending to be stanford for decades after the accident. okay.#also staring at the connections between stanley's dad hating him for being a loser/''the dumb twin'' vs him loving stanford for being#the smart twin...hey captain brenner. you didn't have two. or even THREE kids. did you. maybe a pair of twin boys. one of whom made#a pact with a dream demon who could shapeshift and possess people. one that has a weirdly homoerotic relationship with the ''smart'' twin.#just...pondering.#also pondering this vs henward + alice. twin boys who had no kids and a third sibling who had kids. grandkids even. anyway.#Hey Virginia...who's your father?#st and gravity falls#henry creel#<- because this is creel related
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of course it’s an alicent profile pic saying this shit:
the thing is, i would’ve agreed with the original sentiment of this post if it wasn’t for the tags, but then this person goes mask off and proves to me that they were only pretending to offer meaningful criticism.
cause all i see in these tags is buzzword 🗣️🗣️ buzzword 🗣️🗣️ buzzword 🗣️🗣️
i just wanna know, why are the targaryens always singled out as the house that ‘regularly cannibalizes its own?’
these don’t exist ig: the she-wolves of winterfell, the current lannisters, and literally every House ever.
why are the targaryens held to such an unfair standard? and why are they held responsible for the sins of their ancestors?
it is literally so funny. but like… in an astonishing kind of way.
in these tags there’s no objective language used 🙅♀️ no care for nuance 🙅♀️ and no meaningful interaction with the main themes of the series 🙅♀️
OP kind of tries to pretend, but it’s all surface level shit. it’s clear that they’re blinded by their hatred of the targs and dany.
because george never holds things his characters can’t control against them. what a character should be judged by is their actions, and imo, that’s what george writes about: how individual characters actions and choices can shape the world around them (bonus if the character is a cripple, bastard, or broken thing and is trying to protect others); and he also puts a lot of emphasis on a characters intentions and how they come to their decisions, which gets us his famous ‘human heart in conflict with itself’ thesis statement.
george, someone who’s interested in the choices of the individual and how they get there, clearly thinks it’s important to showcase how different characters handle great power, otherwise he wouldn’t have so many POV characters in positions of such great importance.
on that note, asoiaf isn’t an anti-monarchy piece. you could easily claim that it’s a criticism of systematic oppression, systematic violence, corrupt institutions, and unbalanced social structures; it’s a sort of think piece on how people in positions of power destroy the lives of the common in their petty fights of greed and ambition, all whilst ignoring the incoming humanity ending threat.
and through this thought process, you get the title of the first book: a game of thrones. the political shifts are a game for these powerful people, and this motif is one of the most important statements to understand in order to interact with the series discussion on what it means to be a good ruler. this motif also comes up in a conversation jorah and dany have about the smallfolk: “It is no matter to them if the high lords play their game of thrones, so long as they are left in peace. They never are.” it’s high lords, not royals. it’s a critique of the whole social structure and political system, not a criticism of one family.
so, if you’re of this belief that petty power disputes are dumb and are angry that most high lords don’t give a shit about their subjects, then you should love daenerys, who’s one of the few characters who’s using her power to make lasting societal change.
now, is she perfect? no. no she’s not. cause she’s a teenage girl trying to take down a slave trade that’s been around for thousands of years (hilarious that she’s actually fixing the mistakes of her ancestors…). but dany is learning and is doing her best to get better and is trying to empower the powerless. that sets her apart from almost every other ruler in asoiaf and makes her one of the most important POVs in this book series quest to find out what makes a good ruler. something something gods make kings and queens to protect those who can’t protect themselves…
with that in mind, i agree that the conclusion of the series won’t be a character sitting on a throne because of their blood or because of some divine right mumbo jumbo. imo, a character will only sit on a throne if they’ve been smart, gained allies, formed alliances, have control of an army, have gained loyalty from the people they wish to rule, have been honorable, maybe have a dragon or three, and are a hero.
dany has checked off almost all the boxes, so i think it’s safe to root for her. and considering the foreshadowing, i think it’s logical to guess that peace will be ushered in, even if it’s a hard won peace. and what’s wrong with believing that daenerys will be one of the ones who helps usher in this peace after all the work she’s done to protect those who don’t have the power to protect themselves?
#also i think george does play around with divine motifs heralding the coming of saviors and kings and queens and whatnot#but the ‘what makes a good ruler?’ question is much more important#and it is not easily answered by: the gods gave him/her this power so of course they’re good#the divine symbolism and imagery may exist but that’s the least important aspect of being a ruler#and is actually just a tool at a rulers disposal that they can use to help them lead their subjects#anyways that’s my opinionnnnnnnn#asoiaf#asoiaf meta#asoiaf fandom critical#i both love and hate this fandom <\3#dany is always catching strays leave her alone !!#daenerys appreciation#daenerys targaryen#pro daenerys#its 1:11 am here so i apologize for grammar mistakes 🙏#y’all can’t see but i swear it was an alicent stan account#anti alicent stans
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🍤 ; but unlike kate sharma who is not allergic to bees, i am, in fact, allergic to shrimps HAHAHAHA
happy birthday, haru ! ⋆˙⟡♡
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#fromaryg: selfship#fromaryg: hara#tokyo revengers#sanzu#haruchiyo sanzu#sanzu haruchiyo#tina this is for you#lit the no. 1 hara stan...w haru like yall be competing for that title HSAHAH#HAHAHAHAHA#bro it do be goofy bc i did this on a whim HAHSHA#me and haru at takehina’s wedding hehe#btw i only get hives from shrimps so it’s manageable#who doesnt love shrimps bro#if u dont like shrimps give it to me#tweedlesan is from the twin boys in alice in wonderland#imma save it for when i do youtuber haru and senju#in my head they be tweedle dee and tweedle dum#but tweedlesan(zu) and tweedlesen(ju)#also catch the credits#reaper photography#hehe it’s also for when i do photographer hanma#anyway haru i will in fact be the bane of your existence#if there’s cetirizine#u will always be witnessing shrimp eating typa crime scene 😎 HAHAHAHA
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firm believer there was no bedding ceremony when helaena and aegon married because she would cry and possibly kill someone
#SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE??? BEING LOUD??? /TOUCHING/ HER???? BEING UNDRESSED BY RANDOM MEN????? a hell designed personally for her tbh#sorry if you wanted all the court ladies undressing you aegon. maybe you can have your bedding ceremony while she's safely escorted to bed#if they had it happen she'd try to endure for all of 3 seconds (she'd cry) before violently shoving people away#if anyone tried to prevent her from running it would get worse and she won't apologize for making lord whoever bleed by scratching his face#she'll not apologize if dreamfyre flies too close to the castle like 'HEY BUDDIES WHY IS MY RIDER IN DISTRESS THESE WALLS CAN'T STOP ME!!!'#anyway daily reminder westeros is gross ig#i want to have enough faith in her family that they'd know it wouldn't go well and plan to spare her that from the start#because yeah it wouldn't go well#(the worst part is that me as a person who doesn't write viserys or alicent - disclaimer over - thinking about it#i can see alicent making the case for it not to happen and viserys just being like *handwave* all girls are shy about it it's normal)#anyway yeah any crusty old man tries to touch her helaena will hiss at him like a cat#also run to the nearest source of safety tbh#aemond 🥺 ser criston 🥺 mom 🥺 pls help#* out of character: { dreamfyre stan }
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If only Alicent was more of a girlboss feminist instead of a 15 year old that was groomed by her father who forced her to seduce and marry this man to fuel his ambitions. If only she did not live and uphold the ideals of this patriarchal society she was raised in. If only she had the privileges of Rhaenyra who's a princess and could ride a dragon and fuck who she wants without consequence and spew girlboss one liners <3 like .If she was not such a bitch, just let Rhaenyra do her thing and threaten her children's lives. The Dance would not have happened <3.
#Sara Hess and Ryan Condal sleep with one eye open#and anyway#women can be AMBITIOUS#Book Alicent feared for her sons lives but she also WANTED her son to be king#GOOD FOR HER!!!#anyway#hotd#anti hotd#alicent hightower#alicent stan first human second
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hate how team green stans jump through hoops to justify alicent’s wrongdoings but then end up backing themselves into a corner.
they want her to be this poor little victim forever stuck at fifteen and ignore the fact that she put her daughter through the exact same thing when she was even younger. but then they also try and say that she was ruling the kingdom for decades while viserys was ill and was the best monarch, and ignore the fact that she was just attacking the heir constantly and used her standing to enforce the laws that were already there. she expected everyone else to suffer and accept their place because she believed herself better than those around her for laying down and accepting her suffering and she attacked those who wanted to benefit themselves and others in a system set against them - rhaenyra fighting for her rightful place as heir despite being a woman. she also silenced others with pain - dyana, the serving girl who was assaulted by aegon (and this was not just a one-of occasion cause the maids were literally shown to be scared of aegon and he is canonically a vile person.)
#asoiaf#hotd#house of the dragon#pro team black#team black#rhaenyra targaryen#pro rhaenyra targaryen#rhaenyra targaryen deserved better#i would have literally just burned them alive#like dont give me a dragon and then expect me to sit quiet while people belittle and insult and abuse me and my children#she was the true queen!!!!!#NOBODY deserved her#also the people who hate her for “not fighting”#like she was going through heavy grief and mourning her children and had a miscarriage because she found out her father was dead#and her crown had been usurped#ALL IN THE SAME DAY#fuck team green#literally the whole team is built on misogyny but the stans refuse to except that#like come on now#the dance literally wouldnt have happened if rhaenyra was a man but they jump through hoops saying it was anything BUT that#anyway#they ENFURUATE me#but rhaenyra won in the end#anti team green#anti team green stans#anti alicent hightower#anti alicent hightower stans#anti aegon ii targaryen#anti aegon ii stans
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What is this shitty ass take doing in my “a tu medida” page?
(And being liked and rebloged by users with valyrian or dragon names and targaryen this or that in the their user names but with j0nsa, s@nsa, anti dany, anti rhaenyra, targs are colonizers yada yada but my fave is Alysanne reincarnated or anti bastards content in their blogs lololol)
#by the way they are rhaenicents stans too it seem#fake velaryion girls stans too#anyway#I dont have to wish for my bland fave to have dragons and valyian blood and power because I stan#LA CASA MÁS CHINGONA SÍ SEÑOR#house of the dragon#hotd#daenerys targaryen#asoiaf#house targaryen#now the fate of the seven have fans too? lol i have see it all here.#anti sansa stans#anti jonsa stans#anti sansa 2.0 stans#because I doubt they really like alicent#they only want another mouthpiece for their targ jealousy#ups it was *faith meh
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I think people overestimate how feminist team black is. If someone brings up how Baela should be the heir to Driftmark, it's always "she would've been Queen if not for the Greens!", ignoring that 1, she would be Queen consort, not a Queen in her own right, and 2 she has a legitimate claim in her own right to Driftmark. Team Black's goal is to crown Rhaenyra, but Rhaenyra becoming Queen isn't a win for feminism because it does nothing to dismantle the rest of the patriarchal system that exists in Westeros. From what we've gotten so far, it reads that Rhaenyra wants to be the exception and not the rule. Rhaenyra has made a lot of bad political decisions, which means she can't acknowledge Baela's claim because it would weaken her own claim (blatantly admitting her eldest sons are illegitimate would not end well for her to say the least). So she betrothes Jace and Luke to Baela and Rhaena to kind of atone for that, like as a consolation prize Baela will be Queen and Rhaena will be lady of Driftmark, neither of them would hold either title in their own right. It's good matches because the kids like each other and will treat each other well, but it's not a feminist win or a feministic liberation. It's usurpation, usurpation that takes place because Rhaenyra has to do damage control after having illegitimate children and after a serious of bad political decisions (both hers and her fathers, Viserys is the arbiter of this entire mess). To me, Rhaenyra is very reminiscent of Mary Queen of Scots, I can see a lot of elements drawn from Mary's history in Rhaenyra's story and character, down to their sons eventually taking the crown they failed to claim/keep.
#hotd#hotd spoilers#house of the dragon#house of the dragon spoilers#Rhaenyra targaryen critical#I'm going to do a rewatch prior to season 2 & I'm going to analyse the bad political decisions from vis & Rhaenyra that lead to the dance#like by no means the only factors at play lets not forget otto daemon larys etc#but it's an interesting factor that the fandom doesn't really acknowledge#and a lot of Rhaenyra's bad political decisions are understandable because of her youth and because viserys does fuck all to prepare her#like even if she wasn't who he choose as heir she should've been given a better political education as a princess#but vis fails his most of his other four kids in that regard to#i mean he also fails to acknowledge them or remember them but anyways#he is a huge part of the reason aegon and aemond became he they did#props to whoever probably alicent for sending daeron to oldtown so he could grow up well adjusted#alicent: i'm writing a letter to daeron is there anything you would like to say to him?#viserys: daemon? why are you writing to daemon?#alicent: daeron?#viserys: who?#alicent: our son? the one you sent to squire in oldtown?#viserys: i think i'd remember if we had a son who's name was one letter different to my brothers#viserys: in fact i do alicent do you mean the one who lost an eye?#alicent: *screaming internally*#viserys targaryen#king viserys#rhaenyra is such an interesting character but i hate how the fandom sanctified her because how dare characters be complex and have flaws#like you dont have to justify their actions or bend over backwards to deny their faults to like a character you know 😭#and the same thing is done to daemon who is far more fucked up and far more flawed in the show than the fandom allows#i hate the team stuff tho i get hbo going for it as a marketing move that was genius but my god are certain stans insufferable#the entire point of the dance is that its a pointless tragedy there's no good or bad side theyre both awful in their own ways#but thats a longer rant for another time outside of the tags
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