#“I have no feelings” no what you have is blindspot Fe. I can see your Fi and I would like to study it

[trilobi-te]

Otto (pre-orb) and Cider circa the late 80s/early 90s? I haven't put together a timeline. Someone get this man a hairbrush please. Mm I am annoyed because Otto is my favorite character (along with Cider) and I cannot draw him in orb form to save my life. Why is he so difficult to draw. This whole concept was funnier in my head.. oh well

Transcriptions below the cut. Also I must infodump about Chipspeech characters' MBTI so that too.

Otto: This human form is limiting Cider: Otto please calm tf down

Okay it's MBTI time. I go from fandom to fandom finding the weird scientist characters and then I observe them with my little autistic eyeballs. The fact that both Cider (ESTJ) and Otto (INTJ) are high Te makes me (also high Te) very happi because usually scientist characters end up being high Ti. Cider especially because I often find xSTJ science-related characters to be unlikeable and he is decidedly not. I am an ESTJ-adjacent creature and I must scream

My opinions on Chipspeech characters' types: Cider: ESTJ (TeSiNeFi) Otto: INTJ (NiTeFiSe) Dandy: ESTP (SeTiFeNi) Dee: ISFJ (SiFeTiNe) Vosim: xxFJ (high Fe) Bert: ExTP (aux Ti, tert Fe) Rotten: ENFJ (FeNiSeTi) Spencer: ESFP (SeFiTeNi) Lady Parsec: ENTJ (TeNiSeFi) Sam: idk man, probably on the Ni-Se axis Pedro: ESFP (SeFiTeNi) Voder: ISTJ? Maybe? Definitely somewhere on Te-Fi and I think Si-Ne but I'm open to being wrong. Terminal: ESTJ? He's said his personality is low priority in his system and it's not always running, so idk if he's even really typeable.

One day I might make a post with an in-depth analysis of each character's cognitive functions because every fandom needs a typology nerd that everyone else politely ignores but that'll have to wait until I can actually figure out everyone's stacks in full.

Also obligatory PSA: if you want to take an MBTI test that has a pretty good likelihood of typing you correctly, the best one out there imo is Mistype Investigator, or Jung's Igloo if you want results that are easier to read. 16Personalities is not actually MBTI (Neris is closer to Big 5), and Sakinorva and Keys2Cognition both tend to overestimate Ne so probably avoid them. MBTI is not real science but it's fun to apply to fictional characters, just don't take it too seriously. I feel the need to say all of this because I've had problems in the past where this information would have been useful to have, maybe it'll help someone else. Idk

[windudemon]

rock ballads as personality types

is this love by whitesnake : IXTP (unsure of own feelings and reaches to the conclusion that he is in love by logic this would also apply to EXTJs reason because all these types share having ethics functions at the bottom)

is this love that i’m feeling is this the love that i’ve been searching for is this love or am i dreaming this must be love cause it’s really got a hold on me

november rain by guns n’ roses : ESTP (brutally logical and spitting facts. could also apply to entp)

nothin’ lasts forever and we both know hearts can change and it’s hard to hold a candle In the cold november rain (…) love is always coming, love is always going no one’s really sure who’s lettin’ go today walking away

when a man loves a woman by michael bolton: ESFJ (simppppppppppp)

when a man loves a woman spend his very last dime and trying to hold on to what he needs he’d give up all his comforts and sleep out in the rain if she said that’s the way, it ought to be

I’d Do Anything for Love (But I Won’t Do That) by meat loaf: ENFP (ne dom, fi creative (especially for the twist at the end)

Will you raise me up? Will you help me down? Will you get me right out of this godforsaken town? Can you make it all a little less cold?

I can do that I can do that

Will you hold me sacred? Will you hold me tight? Can you colourise my life, I'm so sick of black and white? Can you make it all a little less old?

I can do that Oh I can do that

Will you make me some magic with your own two hands? Can you build an emerald city with these grains of sand? Can you give me something I can take home?

I can do that I can do that

Will you cater to every fantasy I got? Will you hose me down with holy water, if I get too hot? Will you take me places I've never known?

I can do that Oh, I can do that

After a while you'll forget everything It was a brief interlude and a midsummer night's fling And you'll see that it's time to move on No, I won't do that I won't do that

where the wild roses grow by nick cave & the bad seeds ft. kylie minogue: IxTJ (who the fuck else can even imagine to write a song like this? dark and "fe blindspot" for sure.)

on the third day he took me to the river he showed me the roses and we kissed and the last thing I heard was a muttered word as he knelt above me with a rock in his fist

on the last day I took her where the wild roses grow and she lay on the bank, the wind light as a thief and i kissed her goodbye, said, “all beauty must die” and i lent down and planted a rose ‘tween her teeth

winds of change by scorpions: INFJ (obviously, this song is about times changing (ni) and people (fe))

Listening to the wind of change The world is closing in Did you ever think That we could be so close, like brothers

The future's in the air Can feel it everywhere Blowing with the wind of change

Take me to the magic of the moment On a glory night Where the children of tomorrow dream away In the wind of change

tallulah by sonata artica: ixfj (this one particularly fe creative. the fe usage here is very effective because fe creative is supported by fi demonstrative)

Remember when we used to look how sun set far away, And how you said "this is never over", I believed your every word and I quess you did too, But now you're saying "hey, let's think this over".

You take my hand and pull me next to you, so close to you, I have a feeling you don't have the words, I found one for you, kiss your cheak, say bye, and walk away Don't look back cause I am crying.

I remember little things, you hardly ever do, Tell me why, I don't know why it's over, I remember shooting stars, the walk we took that night, I hope your wish came true, mine betrayed me.

You let my hand go and you fake a smile for me, I have a feeling you don't know what to do, I look deep in your eyes, hesitate a while, Why are you crying.

i don’t want to miss a thing by aerosmith: esfp (being “se” in the moment and enjoying that special, specific feeling towards a person obsessively)

don’t want to close my eyes i don’t want to fall asleep 'dause i’d miss you baby and i don’t want to miss a thing 'cause even when i dream of you the sweetest dream will never do i’d still miss you baby and i don’t want to miss a thing

bed of roses by bon jovi: ENFJ (theatrical and dramatic and over the top romantic) i’ll just close my eyes and whisper “baby, blind love is true” i want to lay you down in a bed of roses for tonight i’ll sleep on a bed of nails oh I want to be just as close as the holy ghost is and lay you down on a bed of roses

painted on my heart by the cult : ISFP!!! (fi deep and se sensory)

I've still got your face Painted on my heard Carved upon my soul Etched upon my memory . . .baby

And I've got your kiss Still Burning on my lips The touch of her fingertips Is left so deep inside of me . . .baby

just like heaven by the cure: INFP but also ENFP (ne playful, fi emotionally involved and alive)

"Show me, show me, show me how you do that trick? The one that makes me scream." she said "The one that makes me laugh." she said And threw her arms around my neck "Show me how you do it, And I promise you, I promise that I'll run away with you, I'll run away with you."

[13atoms]

Could you please write a fic where the reader has had a ‘rough’ life as a serf and orlo is angry or something and he snaps at her and she believes that he might hurt her and then fluff X please love ya

thank you for this request! hope this is okay :) 

Flinch 

“You need to be careful!”

Orlo paced the lawn, wrapped up against the chill in the air, vicious even as the summer began. A party was in full swing behind the walls of the palace, squeals and shrieks cutting through the atmosphere as Peter no doubt demanded the attention of the room. His new bride would be arriving soon, and you suspected he was trying to enjoy life as a bachelor a little longer.

Not that marriage would do anything to change that man.

A chorus of glasses smashed above you, and you wondered which poor sod would have to clean up after it. You hoped it wasn’t you again, you should like to get some sleep tonight.

“I am, Orlo! I’ve been here half as long as you, now. I am doing fine.”

You were huddled under a window, in a spot where you had ample hiding space and enough light to see the count’s face. There weren’t many places you could meet an advisor of the court without gossip spreading amongst the staff, this location was one of few. Orlo had found this blindspot on the grounds a couple of years ago, and since you’d learnt that his whispers to ‘meet him in the garden’ meant here.

Perhaps you wouldn’t have come, if you’d known he’d be so angry with you.

“But you don’t have my favour! You’re a servant.”

“So I’m not allowed any fun?”

You get drunk one evening of the week, and suddenly the emperor throws a surprise banquet. How were you supposed to know? It was unfortunate that Orlo had seen you stumble over a noblewoman’s skirt, otherwise you might have looked sober.

“Not on the job.”

“I am always on the job,” you ground out, “unlike some.”

You made a point to raise an eyebrow at him, pulling a face you knew he hated. Pompous bastard.

“You have no idea–”

Orlo’s hand swung out towards you, and you covered your face on instinct, forearms braced to take the brunt of a hit. You’d muffled the beginnings of a scream, and you sincerely hoped no one had heard. Being discovered now was the last thing you needed.

You lowered your defensive stance cautiously, ignoring Orlo to scan the grounds for the movement of wandering partygoers. There didn’t appear be anyone out there in the darkness who might have heard you cry out.

Good.

“What the fuck was that?” he demanded. He’d backed away a little, looking at you in shock. He didn’t shout, but the horror was evident in his voice. “I went to touch your shoulder!”

You glared at him.

“Shouldn’t have been so aggressive about it, then.”

“I wasn’t!”

Idiot.

“Do you know how many people try to touch me? Every fucking day? You develop reflexes.”

Orlo looked offended, but you refused to feel any sympathy for him. He was lucky you hadn’t attempted to hit him back.

“Oh my god, I’ve known you for years!”

It was hard not to laugh at him, the hysteria in his voice, and you didn’t bother restraining yourself. Your laughter just made him more upset, fists clenching.

“Sometimes I forget how clueless you are, Count. Innocent to the reality of court for the people who serve it.”

“Don’t give me that. You know how they treat me!”

“This conversation is over.”

You turned to walk away. You should really get back to the servants’ quarters and wait for the yell to ‘fucking help clear up!’. What a dismal routine you all shared.

“I’d never strike you. I hope you know that.”

“Hm.”

You stopped walking.

It would take more than a mild apology. Who did he think he was, getting angry at you for flinching? Sometimes, your lives felt to different that you should be unable to hold small talk, let alone share a meaningful conversation.

“Can I hug you?” he sounded nervous, and you felt how his upset pulled on your heart.

“I suppose so.”

As soon as his arms were wrapped around you, you let the scowl drop from your face, and your body soften into his hug. You felt him nuzzle his face against you, exhaling.  

“I’m sorry.”

“Thank you.”

“I’ll get you out of here soon,” he promised.

You believed him.

With a sigh, you acknowledged your impossible position. As much as you’d love to leave…  

“Then I’d be away from you.”

[azenta]

hi! thanks for ur posts on IVs, it helped me understanding them in a lot more detail and nuance. could u contrast what aux so vs so blindspot would look like in the withdrawn triad (4, 5 9) of inferior fe types? im confusing telling apart low fe/enneagram withdrawness from soc blindspot. like an ixtp 5/9 sp/so vs ixtp 5/9 sp/sx ... sorry if this is confusing let me know if i can explain better and thank u.

First off, you're asking something highly specific, so i will present each things apart to contrast them and you will have to put things together yourself, because this would be awfully long to do. 

Aux Soc: Having the need for Soc but as a mean to satisfy Sp or Sx. Using relations and networking to satisfy the dominant. Also, the sentiment of belonging in a group, either real, composed of friends or acquaintances, or symbolic, such as one's culture, family root, even identifying with a certain category/community (ex.: LGBTQ, gender, work affiliation, etc.)* as a prolongation of the dominant instinct. The belonging in a group brings either Sp or Sx to the individual. A concern for reciprocity and similarities in relationships, as Soc is seen as bringing some "stability" to the dominant. Also, an attunement to power dynamics within given groups (again, real or symbolic), again to better perceive what is best for the dominant in the case of aux Soc** 

*Note that simply saying you are (ex.) homosexual is not Soc, that would just be a fact, it's more about saying you are from the LGBTQ, that your self, mentality and/or identity is defined through a "social" category. Homosexuality, and even sexual orientation and identity, defines the person rather than homosexuality being an aspect among many in the individual. They'll use it to define to what they belong.

** Very simplistic example: Soc identifying someone as a leader. Sp/so could want to affiliate with them as it'd bring good ways to Sp, or either avoid them as this leader could be going beyond their boundaries, comfort or threaten simply too much the self (related to the core.) An Sx/so on the other hand could use it as an opportunity for challenge or get some rival which would arouse their Sx for intensity (also related to mating, male against male to win over the "female", a matter of life or death. "Female" could simply be the feeling of being attractive and the liveliness gained from it), or end up being buddy as they have good chemistry and being friend with the leader would bring more Sx occasions, or even they could want to seduce them (Male, female parading bs). Again, depends of the core goal.

Soc blindness: Uncaringness and a certain unconsciousness/blindness about Soc. The person doesn't feel the need to belong in any particular group/affiliation (real or symbolic) and neither rely on networks or even forming and caring for networks as their core goal or as a support to their core. They won't identify(/self/mentality) with groups, and also can have very rigid and inaccurate perception of "soc groups". They can understand that they exist, but they won't see the point of building or defining their Self/identity/mentality around it. An uncaringness for the reciprocity and similarity with others, what matters is the chemistry and having their boundaries respected. Also, obliviousness to power dynamics.

Within withdrawn types 

As a general rule, Soc makes withdrawn core more "out there", or simply, more extroverted. But truth is withdrawn mechanism of 4,5 and 9 is about making one retreat into either the heart (emotion), the head or the body itself, and Soc means group serve as a "place" to withdraw to. Soc will therefore help them indulge furthermore into either their emotion, head or body. The goal of withdrawness is to make one retreat where they are the most at ease in order to avoid their core fear one way or another. 

A Soc 9 within a group of friends will actually be totally withdrawn and absorbed into the "present moment" and disconnected both of their emotions and head to be more in tune with their "body" or world around. Even a Soc 5 within a group mean they are actually withdrawing from reality by indulging their sense of competency and utility through mentalizing and analyzing (head) for the sake of the people/group (ideology, project, etc.) they are involved into. Same goes for Soc 4s, through others (Soc), the group/s they belong to, they can indulge into their emotions more intensily. They are less typically introverted, but still nonetheless withdrawn from one reality or another. Though, it's important to recall once more that those said "groups" can be symbolic, however usually they always reach people having the same sense of belonging to that group as a way to actually feel that they belong to it (another example, Music genre, such as Metal Lovers or even K-pop fans).

By consequence, Soc blind withdrawn core are the most typically introverted. Only Sp/so will also make them more introverted due to Sp dom reservedness, but within groups you'll see them be quite active as it will be a way to withdraw for them, especialy online groups.

Core 4: Soc in 4s will be used to define the identity, so using some groups (sense of belonging in certain groups) that would accentuate how unique they are. They could all well see how everyone is and pursposefully going against to stand out. They'll want to form relations with people as a way that makes them feel even more unique, because they'll be glorified (more w3) or loved/appreciated for their uniqueness, and this attention will validate that they are indeed unique. 

Soc blindness will make the 4 unconcerned to where or what they belong. Their sense of identity will probably be built more around provocation as a mean to attract something highly specific (Sx). As much as repulsive reaction than intrigued reaction. They'll be less into comparison to harness how much they stand out and more self-absorbed. However, it makes them more at loss as how to be unique since they have barely any reference to know how much they are really unique, and so how much they succeed in their inner quest. It ironically makes them stand out quite a lot, but since they cannot see for themself, they never really feel like they are unique enough, and this brings them in constant cycles of destructing and rebuilding anew. 

Core 5: Soc in 5s is using networks to gain knowledge and to extend their knowledge too, as a mean to feel they are useful and competent. They are more prone to also hoard knowledge useful to the group they want to/ feel they belong to. They'll be more in a quest to be useful to something bigger than the self.

Soc blind 5s will not care to have any sense of belonging into a group to feel they have any usefulness, they'll believe only the right persons can understand them, and so be less concerned (if at all) about sharing or spreading their knowledge to feel useful or competent. They'll use it more as a mean to test and attract the right things or persons (someone that complete them, that make up for their weaknesses), and so will rather share it at given moment. In other words, they'll be more possessive of their knowledge. Their competency issues will be more at play with any knowledge or expertise that help them make up for their weaknesses, so that "complete" them and therefore, preserve them. The more their weaknesses are still obvious, the more incompetent they'll feel and the more prone to hoard even more knowledge to fill the gap they'll indulge into.

Core 9: Soc makes the 9s attuned to find group/s (even a cause, such as animal cruelty enters this realm of Soc group too) with which they can merge with and extend their needs into. This group (real or symbolic) become them and they become the group. The many relations and network will allow the 9 to extend itself the most possible. They also depend on those relations to not get their sense of peacefulness disturbed, and therefore will rely on any relationship to make them avoid being in touch with their own inner needs (Sx or Sp dom will make them pickier on which to choose or maintain). They'll also depend on the peacefulness of the given group (they want to belong to) or individual around to feel at peace. 

Soc blind 9s want to find particular someone/s with whom they can lose themself into safely (Sp way). Again, all about completion of the self and the prolongation of the self in another, though up until a certain point due to Sp. The other's needs and desires become the 9 desires. Those 9s haven't a sense to belong into something greater and won't feel able to extend to just anyone to fulfill their needs. Their needs is specifically the completion of themself through a complementary pair. Of course, for Sp/sx this completion would rather help them better maintain boundaries, to better define themselves and maintain other's at bay. Sp/sx are less about loosing the self and more about finding something or someone (that complete and have chemistry with) that helps them better preserve their sense of peace.

Side note: The soc blind description are heavily leaning toward Sx/sp tbh (especially 9's). The aspect of provocation and seeking chemistry is still obviously present in Sp/sx, but not as much obvious and used as a way to preserve themself furthermore.

IxTPs: Inferior Fe is valuing your personal judgement at the expense of how it makes other feels and what other's values. Ti is how they conceive things work so if it doesn't please others or hurts other's feelings or values, they'll just not care, because that's how things work however you feel about it, whatever you value. Tho, healthy and growing IxTP ultimately aspire to reconcile their truth with other's values, so to get a sense of morality that is still coherent, accurate and true but that also consider other's values, feelings, judgement in it. So, that align with a "greater good".

The difference with low Fe and soc blindness is, low Fe is the one responsible to be uncaring or inconsiderate of others, and soc blindness is a simple obliviousness to group affiliation, power dynamic and not caring about entertaining relationships for the sake of it (aka networking). Being an inconsiderate fuck is (not so healthy) low Fe bullshit, not Soc blind ones. But mixed together you get someone that don't care that you value and care about something different than them (low Fe), and so won't chew their words about their (often amoral) opinions about what you care, however you feel and care about it, since they don't care about being socially rejected or ostracised for it, as they don't seek that sense of belonging and neither value Soc methods of attaining such. In other words, they don't care about the consequences of their words. Sp/so IxTP will be as inconsiderate but they tend to be more careful about how they say their shits, they are less crude in their way of being an ass. They tend to use politness as a way to smooth their words, even if what they say is still really "assholish", to avoid being expulsed or rejected from groups and to not lose too many relations. I'd say they are polite asshole. Also, well, IxTPs also tend to not know if what they say is right or not, and soc won't make up for it, it just smoothes the "how" they put it, not "what" they say. 

Also side note, in general, being an inconsiderate ass is just being on an unhealthy range of your personality, and low Fe just means how one is being an ass. But any type can be an inconsiderate duche lord.

So... That's the best answer I can offer as of now. The description for the enneatype x IVs could be way more detailed as it is much more complex than that. But at this point, it gives an idea of how it falls altogether. 

[mbtinep]

Hey! I need change to function,have difficult time letting go of things and constantly worry for the future. Troubled dealing with emotions i.e I don't know how to respond to them and what to say to make someone feel better, this takes a tol on me and I feel like a bad person. I like structure in things and am a workaholic. Like being alone, outdoors, leadership positions. An honor student + science major Can you help identify my type because I feel like I never type myself correctly. Thanks

Hello. Thank you for reaching out.

You are not obligated to send one ask; you could have taken the freedom to describe yourself in more parts, sent in multiple asks. If you want to do that, you may, it's not an issue. I will answer you again. The more you give details the more likely I can find your answer.

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Because you paint yourself so negatively, besides your academic details which most often don't matter in typing, you come off as someone with problems that are not specifically related to type. You seem to be emotionally unstable or having psychological issues. It's always wise to look for a way to fix them, or in this case to analyse them further in order to put them aside before attempting to type. Your unhealthiness puts everything under a doubtful light.

That said, I have a strong guess in what your type might be.

The focus on how you feel about things, the lack of explanations, or arguments or justifications, the disorganized format of your ask and the self-pitying tone make me strongly think of IxFP. It might be little to go of off, but it's enough to gain some ideas from it:

Your confusion about your type could be one of two things: low Te who is unnable to deal with information in a way that makes it conclude to anything solid, or high Ne that makes you undecisive and distracts you with too many options. This is the antithesis of ISTJ. An ISTJ would have taken care of writing a more. coherent, organized and detailed ask and would have less of a self-centered focus on emotion. Why do you feel like you never type yourself correctly?

Not to mention, ISTJs are not very attracted to change in general. Worrying about the future as well as ruminating on the past is a strong sign of xNFP (intuitives being future oriented and unhealthy Si becoming overly attached the past or neurotic).

Troubles with dealing with other people and their emotions is a sign of low emotional maturity, and can happen to any type.

"Feeling bad" for not using Fi properly is not a sign that one is an ISTJ at all, in general, they care less about such things than high Fi users, and their Fe blindspot makes them rather careless to how "insensitive" they can be.

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With that said, possible types: INFP, ENFP, ISFP

Though, it is possible that you could be an unhealthy ISTJ, but i doubt it. If you have more information it would help seeing this through. If you want to add something or disagree with this answer, don't hesitate to contact me again.

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I’m here to help with self-typing, and answer questions about mbti and enneagram. Send me an ask, my askbox is open.

[istpdumpling]

Rules: just answer these and tag some people

tagged by @venusian-prince

MBTI type: my most recent guess is istp

Enneagram (with tritype If you know it): honestly can’t tell if it’s 4w5 or 5w4; currently guessing 5w4 because of disintegration to 7. and tritype would be either 4w5 5w4 1w2 or 5w4 4w5 1w2

Instinctual variants (iv): sx/sp. the one thing i’m 99.9% certain of.

Fav fix of your tritype: probably 4 because of the ~*aesthetic*~

Do you think your iv’s blindspot gives you many problems: eh, it does make me socially inept but like...I don’t care

there’s also the so-blind issue of never feeling like you “belong” anywhere because you’ve been excluded from social groups too many times during of your childhood. it’s a sore spot i guess but as you get older you learn to get used to it and stop caring about it so much.

What do you like about your type the most and what do you like the least: 

MBTI- I looove Se. so much. and I love the interplay between Ti and Se; makes you a pretty handy person to have around. As for what I dislike: lower Ni is.....a trip. Inferior Fe is...hmm.

Enneagram- like I said above, I like the emotional intelligence and ~~aesthetique~~ of 4. 5 is great because of its inquisitiveness and thirst for knowledge, and I like the high standards my 1 fix gives me. and...we all know Sx/sp is the best variant stack.

That being said, 4 also gives me the tendency to be whiny and arrogant, 5 makes me an Actual hermit (and disintegration to 7 is........hairy), and those same high standards from 1 can sometimes be straight up unreasonable, yet I barely feel the need to change them. Dom Sx is good except for when you lose interest in something and get intensely swept up into your next interest...and then it happens again in a few weeks, and then again....eventually you might return to it but it’s exhausting sometimes.

A song that reminds you of your type:

idk about songs but Prince is dom sx 4 culture

What colors, smells, animals, etc do you relate to your type: 

istp- like....skateboards and concrete and shit but also those sparks when you hit rocks together, being outside and feeling one with nature, prototype sketches, those like truck loading docks on the back of buildings, tapping complex rhythms with your hands, photography, this is like extremely stereotypical but taking things apart completely and examining the individual parts to see how they fit together, like a computer mouse or something. sunglasses, cats

4- artsy shit....like watercolors spilled everywhere but in an aesthetic way, peacocks, emo kids, Prince, most musicians actually, that avril lavigne video where she says she doesn’t consider herself punk because it’s not punk to say that you’re punk, the whole “poseur” bullshit in scene culture from 08, jack skellington, hot topic in general, Liberace, tumblr in general, the color gray for some reason, shadows, Dr. Frank-N-Furter, a city street

5- robots honestly. green and orange, science projects, rubix cubes, doritos LMAO, fast typing, big books, the smell when you open a certain kind of book (not sure how to describe it but it’s usually  books with pictures so maybe it’s the picture ink? idk), knowing a fuck ton of “random” facts, wikipedia, gamer dudes, aquariums (aquaria???), wood, the sound a mechanical pencil makes when it’s writing

1- tall buildings, protesters, cold, the color white/off-white/tan, coffee, click clacking of heels, quiet churches, owls, sirius, that feeling when you get pissed off and can feel your shoulders tense, glasses, the type of person who says “leitmotif”(i guess this doesn’t apply if they’re german lol) (pretentious), when you’re speaking passionately about something and your eyes light up

Sx/sp- classic rock. the entire genre is just so dom sx. smoldering logs, the smell of woodsmoke in the distance, motorcycles, dark roads, driving late at night blasting music, driving with your hand at the top of the wheel and arm locked (this is bad, don’t do this), weight training, clouds floating past the moon, lighters, leather, also sunglasses, flannel, eyeliner, stargazing with someone you love, tigers and other big predator cats, that thick humidity in the air before a thunderstorm

Boards of your type, do they seem accurate to you: 

I think most of the istp ones are geared towards 9s and seem kind of empty and cold, so...no? but the enneagram and sx/sp ones usually do.

What is MBTI and Enneagram for you:

funny me-mes but also an avenue of self discovery; it’s helped me recognize some of my issues so that i can work on them. it’s also just fun to learn about.

Do you relate to your type stereotypes: 

yeah, mostly. that’s kind of what made me start to think i’m a five LOL most of the stereotypes fit.

How long have your been studying this stuff: hmmmmmm like 2ish years maybe? not sure.

Any mistypings: 

I thought I was an INFJ for years, and I also thought I was a 471. and who knows, I wouldn’t put it past me to have misunderstood something about my current types and wind up being mistyped lmfao

Other pseudosciences you know/like: hmm.... I don’t actively hate the ones that don’t hurt people (anti-vax, holocaust denial, diet culture, polygraph, mbti when it’s used in the workplace (such as firing someone because they’re not an entj or something), certain vegans) /the environment (climate change deniers)/actual sciences. i do think astrology is fun, i used to be very into it until i realized that most of the descriptions are intentionally vague and can apply to almost everyone in some ways. uhhh aromatherapy is nice, not because it works but just because i like having an excuse to smell pretty things. also hypnosis if that counts.

idk who’s done this so if you have then....ignore this i guess lol

@just-emerald @eclipsenn @cinamint @god-of-whi-ne-and-ti-ts @lophiusdragon @dumb-ti @girl-youd-die-for @shyconoclast @t3chn0-anarch1st @amazoniansiege @akehci @umbraphage @holy-panther @dulcetlips @glitter-nemesis

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Tagged by: @sevkiel @wrecc and @mbti-egg - thanks guys!! aah this is really interesting (good job @im-in-space)

Rules: just answer these and tag some people

MBTI type: infj

Enneagram (with tritype If you know it): 9w1 4w5 5w4 afaik

Instinctual variants (iv): sx/sp prooobably. sometimes i consider sp-blindness (i actually think it’s the Low Se) but i don’t think soc 9 works out with me at all (and i’m surely not sx/so)

Fav fix of your tritype: i guess 9w1

Do you think your iv’s blindspot gives you many problems: sometimes? but i usually don’t care too much about it? if anything, the problems i get from it are about how soc can annoy me, especially when i’m told to care about it, that just pisses me off. also, okay, to be fair, i can get a bit lonely hah because 1. whoever i feel closest to is not available or they don’t have sx which can make recharging a bit difficult sometimes, which leads to 2. me isolating with my other interests instead, so then 3. i don’t really meet a lot of new people to sx with/i take a really long time to trust someone enough to let them in/whoever i’d like to know better is really hard to get to. anywAYS

What do you like about your type the most and what do you like the least: i like my functions, and though i’d like higher se, i also think higher fe is actually okay. high ni being such a slow and incomprehensible process is sorta annoying but i’m striving for that se-development/-balance lol. tert ti (especially with ni) is also kinda problematic lol - mine at least - cause it’s so fucking faulty, i feel it can be sorta useless cause though i’ll be like “that totally makes sense” my arguments can be dissected pretty quickly, and i hope i can get better about that. i’m better at reasoning by using fe, if at all i also like being a 9-core because imo it is a strength *ni-fe voice* to be able to step outside of yourself and understand; and i feel more accomplished/integrated 9s (finding their “gut” centre and what they want, and being able to assert that clearly) are pretty fucking fascinating, and, yah, that’s the goal. obviously until you get there there’s the usual downsides of “sleepwalking”, saying yes to things and then not being able to backpedal for external or internal reasons, which sucks a lot; and if it were possible i would trade my 1-wing for an 8-wing, cause i think it could be beneficial for that asserting-yourself-problem. being a passive-agressive nagger is just jnnnghhhg, the worst worst worst, and infinitely multiplied when i’m disintegrating. being triple withdrawn is a bit of a challenge sometimes cause it tends to make me underuse fe and that’s... not so good. 

A song that reminds you of your type: 9 - illusion is mine (ling tosite sigure) infj - i feel it’s really hard to find songs based on functions lol  sx/sp - howl (florence + the machine) (godddd) anyways 2 hours passed and that’s all i’m coming up with now fajskdlf

What colors, smells, animals, etc do you relate to your type: 9 - dark green, the ocean, just water in general (but i’ve also always related to water, so); infj - idfk, i never thought about it actually, and my mind is blank rn... would need more time to find some answers lol

When you see moodboards of your type, do they seem accurate to you: gosh people i have no si, i don’t even remember what i looked at yesterday i think, mostly, yes? sometimes i’d like stronger colors, especially for infj ones, those tend to be pretty pastelly as far as i can recall. on the other hand sx/sp ones often seem to come off a little stronger and more intense (thematically) than how i usually feel lol, maybe because of the 9-core. sx 9 is less stabby with their sx than other sx types lol. there’s been a good expression for what i mean in one of those more recent sx posts: “On the other hand, Sx can also be represented as rushing water; a river that seeks nothing more than to find its ocean, someone to lose itself into.” i highkey relate to that

What is MBTI and Enneagram for you: i just really like trying to understand people, and i think it’s fun to try to figure out stuff like that and make sense of certain behaviours and reactions via typing. also, i found reading posts about functions i don’t use by people who do use them is pretty helpful and definitely made me more patient and open-minded while helping me figure out what i don’t like about other people and also why lol, so i can handle certain situations better than before

Do you relate to your type stereotypes: the infj “jesus” stuff, or “wanting to be beneficial to all mankind” and idk, i don’t see too much stereotyping anymore, but that put me off from the very beginning lol (if anything, i actually fit the infp “crybaby” stereotype most). similar with 9s having that stoner quality or something (though i know a 9 who does have that “””aura””” lol... maybe it’s a n vs s thing?), but yeah i don’t think i come off like that. i also feel like i’m more emotionally expressive than is generally said of 9s, idk? with sx/sp being oh so magnetic ?, that doesn’t seem quite right for me - then again, it could also be low self-esteem speaking and/or i generally have trouble figuring out how i come off; either way, someone (i think god-of-whi-ne-and-ti-ts) said so-blinds are hit and miss and i see myself in the miss-category for the most part jfklasj, like i’m not putting people off automatically but i’m also... not all that alluring/charismatic or whatever imo.

How long have you been studying this stuff: i’ve known about mbti since about ... 3 years? but didn’t actually “study” it. started enneagram a little over a year ago, and that’s also when i looked deeper into mbti as well

Any mistypings: infj was always pretty clear, but i did think i was a 5 and a 4 before i got to 9

Other pseudosciences you know/like: i do like dabbling in astrology, and though i’m not convinced of it as “””science”””, i like learning about the system, what everything’s supposed to mean, blabla

Tagging: no one cause afaik most mbti people i know have been tagged already hah (if you’ve actually read this far through this fucking novel and haven’t been tagged though, first of all, kudos, and second of all, consider yourself tagged by me)

[enfjdude]

typology tag meme

I was tagged by @kyosque

Rules: just answer these and tag some people.

MBTI type: ENFJ

Enneagram (with tritype if you know it) : 9w1 (479)

Instinctual variants (iv): so/sx

Do you think your iv’s blindspot gives you many problems:

Most certainly; mostly with forgetfulness when it comes to stuff like practicality and safety. It’s not that I don’t care, it’s just that my brain doesn’t prioritize these things. It mostly manifest in was like “I’ve been at this party for nine hours now, don’t even know when the final buss is leaving ... meh, it’ll be fine, one more beer will do.” And then I have to walk home alone through dodgy neighborhoods in the middle of the night because I missed the buss.

What do you like about your type the most/least:

Well, what I like is that it is very easy for me to find a way to feel comfortable in almost any social situation. Also usually engaged in planning and arranging social situations, which I guess is something I like more than something I’m good at, if that makes sense, haha.

This type combination does have some drawbacks tho; mostly it’s that I put way too much pressure on myself when interacting with others. I usually feel like I am hundred percent responsible for making interactions pleasant; no matter who I talk to, if there is an awkward pause it’s my fault and I have to fix right now so the other person isn’t uncomfortable etc.

Songs that remind you of your type:

Comfortably Numb by Pink Floyd, lol

What colors, smells, animals..etc you relate to your type:

I don’t really think my brain associates stuff this way. I do like stuff like otters and books and british libraries and nerdy stuff, but I think that is more just me, not my type, but I don’t know.

When you see moodboards of your type, do they seem accurate to you?:

Some of them are, most of them aren’t. I don’t really know why, probably because they are a bit stereotypical, overgeneralized and repetative.

What is MBTI and Enneagram to you?:

Mostly shits and giggles.

Do you relate to your stereotypes?

Not really, but I suspect it’s because I have a bit of an unusal type combination. I don’t really relate to alot of ENFJ stereotypes because they are too much social activist, class president, etc. And I don’t really relate to 9 stereotypes either because they are too much harmony, green tea, inner peace, yoga and meditation for me (although I actually do medidate from time to time).

How long have you been studying this stuff?

About three years of MBTI and two years of enneagram.

Mistypings:

I have never believed I was anything other than ENFJ. Scored ENFJ on my first test, read the description and went like “yeah, thats me, no questions asked.” Scored ENFJ on almost any other test after that.

I have been mistyped as ENFP for time to time by other people, tho. And I guess I can see why, I’m not really that much of an “engaged” Fe-dom as some of them are. I am not Ne-dom, tho, that’s for sure, lol.

Considering enneagram I had a much harder time. I knew from the get-go I wasn’t the typical ENFJ 2w3 or 3w2. First I thought I was 6, then I realized I had to be a withdrawing type, so I thought 5 and then 4. Then I learned about the instinctual stackings of Chestnut(/Naranjo), and reluctantly admitted I had to be a social 9.

Other pseudosciences you know/like:

Not anything, really, unless it’s related to Harry Potter.

I have to tag @infyay for this one. 

[spaceytingz]

Tagged by: @umbraphage

Rules: just answer these and tag some people

MBTI type: INTP

Enneagram (with tritype If you know it): 5 (either 5w4 or 5w6, the Enneagram test is fucking boring)

Instinctual variants (iv): sp/so

Fav fix of your tritype: Don’t know what the fuck that means

Do you think your iv’s blindspot gives you many problems: what the fuck is thaaa, oh, you mean the sx? Well, I have problems feeling like I’m “friends“ with someone even if they adore me and think we are. Also, I have a very warped emotional view, although this might not be the reason.

What do you like about your type the most and what do you like the least: I Holy fuck, I love each of my functions. Ti makes me quite smart and witty, each idea Ne throws at me is fascinating, Si is quite entertaining, even though it doesn’t work for things like appointments and small details, and Fe helps me get whatever I want by manipulating the social environment around me (even though it makes me feel like shit sometimes)

A song that reminds you of your type: I don’t know of any.

What colors, smells, animals, etc do you relate to your type:

This is a really fascinating question, to which I don’t think I can give a good answer, but still:

Colors: Purple, Blue and anything in between

Other things:

The spark in my eye when I come up with a perfect solution/ I get a great idea

Messy hair

Sitting on the grass while the summer sky reddens and the sun slowly goes down. The gentle summer wind rustling my hair.

Identity crisis

Sweatpants, oversized hoodies, shorts

Geeky apparel

Colored hair

Planets (with rings maybe?) and space in general

Spies

Manipulation

New tech

Impulsive cheap purchases

Total immersion in an endeavor (writing, coding, drawing, reading)

Fast talking

Holograms

The ocean wind

I really wish I could write something cool. This will have to do.

When you see moodboards of your type, do they seem accurate to you: Kinda?

What is MBTI and Enneagram for you: MBTI for me is a fascinating system which allows me to spot and predict patterns in people and appreciate their unique strengths and not judge them so hard for some of their weaknesses. I don’t use Enneagram

Do you relate to your type stereotypes: Maybe like half of them. Admittedly I do have mastermind tendencies, but I’m also not a clinical psychopath like some make INTJs out to be. I’m also a bit more sociable than stereotypes suggest.

How long have your been studying this stuff: 2 years and a half

Any mistypings: INFJ from 16personalities in the beginning, when I was going through some terrible stuff, later INTJ for a short time.

Other pseudosciences you know/like: I don’t think MBTI is a pseudoscience. D&D alignments

[kendrixtermina]

Hi! I don’t know if you still think about this, but I’ve been going back and forth between what MBTI type Keith is. I can’t decide between ISFP or ISTP. I thought about ISTP for a while because I was only looking at the surface of how intelligent he is. But I looked deeper and he seems to be guided more by a sense of morality than logic. His choices seem to be more “This is the right thing to do” than “This is what makes logical sense.” But I still understand the argument for ISTP. Thoughts?

At least we agree that he cannot be anything other than a Se aux. Personally I think he’s an ISTP but ISFP would be the second most likely option.

In the end it is very T/F is not about intelligence, morality or “feelings” but about decision making patterns.

Some F folks can be very selfish and immoral in going after their preferences whereas some T folks have strong ideas of ‘fairness’ or morality which are based on the application of consistent principles; It’s not a distinction of better or worse but “how” a person does something, what alghorithms they use - each of which has a characteristic set of advantages and blindspots. 

And this effed-up 19th century idea that ”emotion” and “logic” are somehow opposites neeeds to die. What “makes sense” and what is “right” are very much interconnected things - for example, its hardly logical to do something that will piss everybody off and make you lots of enemies, and cooperation and peace can foster efficiency.

Thinking your more moral/sensitive or smarter/more objective by default (both of which equally amounts to being “righter” in one’s own) is pretty much the best way to fail at both morality and objectivity because if you assume you are that way by default you don’t check your thinking for the human errors and biases we are all ultimately prone to - they’re like weeds in that they need to be continually pulled out as they pop up.

And in the end everyone has onne T or F function, so the real question is more, like,  - what is a ‘louder voice’ in your head, social considerations and feelings of “like and dislike” (F) or task-oriented thinking and opinions about “correcct or incorrect”? (T)

And in that sense Keith strikes me as very much task-oriented and all about “the objective!!” and seeing things from an objective, more detached perspective where he tunes out his own attachments even though he definitely has them - “Yea but can we actually afford to rescue the princess?” “Yeah you miss your folks but the universe is more important” “Yeah making friends and allies is nice but LOTORS UP TO SOMETHING and we should be doing something useful”

- to the point that he sometimes failed to take the team’s feelings and situatiobns into account when he first took over in s3b/c he was focussed on archieving the objective of blasting Lotor

Besides, he seems more like has inf Fe (piss-poor social perceptiveness, antagonizing people without meaning to or realizing,  and occasional temperamental outbursts) than inf Te (high sensitivity to criticism, failure to actively fix situations and moments of being hyper-critical of self and others).

That, of course, applies only when he’s actually thinking and not just rushing in, but that’s Se more than anything and IMHO sufficiently explained by that- if he sees an opportunity he’ll just take it without asking permission lest it be lost.

You also have to consider how functions work together.

“This is theoretically the most reasonable course of action after taking the whole situation into account” is more sometrhing an NT might follow (implicitly putting all the data points into an abstzract framework ) whereas a an STP would  see things more situationally,  analyze things on the fly, locate opportunities do quick-thinking based on that, which is mopre or less what Keith does alot the time - what would get them closer to [goal] in that situation, something that gets tangible results right then and there,  not necessarily the most “reasonable” thing from a global, theorethical perspective

This is of course just my opnion/ POV/reasoning on the matter though, feel free to disagree if this doesn’t convince you.

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2-weeks-long couple with an ESTP with huge abandonment issues. Beaten by his father, sent in boarding school from 9 to 18 because of his traumatic responses. His mother never acknowledged what was done to him, while she's widely known as the kindest & sweetest of schoolteachers. He isn't in denial about it, but suffers from his mother's & people's denial. He still lives in the same village, while he's independent for years & very resourceful, & still has lunch with his parents once a week. (1/8)

[con’t: He decided to contain all this violence in order not to reproduce it. He’s sweet, clever & educated, but self-deprecating & self-destructive to the point of orchestrating his own abandonment by his last partner (inferior Ni at play?). His hypertrophied Fe leads him to spend huge amounts of time & money to take care of others, but to completely neglect himself. He’s highly sensitive & perceptive, but he admitted he’s his own blindspot & doesn’t care about how he looks. He drinks alcohol (holds it) & smokes cigars everyday. His teeth bear the marks of these ill-treatments. I think it’s a way of converting his psychotrauma into material reality for all of those who don’t acknowledge its existence to see. He clearly has a hang-up, but still doesn’t do much about it. It’s as if he was telling: “Love me exactly as I am to prove I’m worth more than this external shape!” I feel I’ve proven it already.Ironically, teeth are of paramount importance to me. I take great care of mine, I dread to have a cavity so much I never had 1. It’s almost a phobia (Tertiary Si’s defensive loop?). Yet I kissed him, told him I loved him, slept with him; now I’d like him to make an effort to look as nice as he really is inside. Maybe I’ve been naive. I thought that the frog would magically turn into a prince by the power of love, but it’s not yet the case. He clearly isn’t the best version of himself.I can’t help being negatively impacted by it, both in my desire & my own sense of self-worth. He compliments me a lot & seeks my compliments in return to feel worthy, but I can’t tell him he’s handsome without lying as long as he doesn’t cure what I see as an open wound in his face, which makes me cringe & feel pain for him when I see it. I repeat him to take care of himself, but he only half-hear it, saying it’s too late.There’s a point where I feel his lack of respect towards himself boarders on a lack of respect towards me as a partner because he doesn’t take into account that I’d like him to be as attractive as he can be, not in decay. Yet I don’t want to solve the problem by guilt-tripping his unhealthy Fe. I don’t want him to take care of himself FOR ME (even if it’d be more pleasant for me indeed), but FOR HIMSELF. I don’t want him to derive a sense of worth because I tell him I love him, but because he’s worth it. I’d like him to heal both his external & inner wounds irrespective of my love for him. When I talked about repairing his teeth to heal from his past, he answered half-jokingly: “If you want to spend the next 20 or 30 years with me, then maybe I’d make the effort. But it isn’t worth it if you don’t.” It shocked me as subtle emotional blackmail & made me want to run away more than anything.I wonder what I can do. I’ve been drawn towards him because of the potential I see in him that he didn’t make come true yet, but I wonder if he really wants to make it come true in the first place, or if he’d rather see me leave him because he stubbornly stagnates as such, just to find a new confirmation of his spiraling fate of being repeatedly abandoned as he expects to be since forever.]

You haven’t really included a clear question and I’m not sure what to do with all these details except to give you a general opinion. You can either accept him as he is or you can’t. Whether you are right or wrong about him and his state of mind is completely beside the point. You are taking his actions personally when you shouldn’t, which perhaps speaks to some self-esteem issues on your part. His issues are his own - it’s not his job to change for you and it’s not his job to be “the best version” of himself, if that’s not what he wants for himself. Based on what you’ve said about his past, I’d say he’s actually coping well, not “perfectly” as you want, but well enough. Don’t you think it’s a bit unreasonable to expect that a person can suddenly undo a dark past and a lifetime of cognitive-behavioral habits just because you came along and told them that it’s “possible”? A relationship should not be built only on your imaginary and, yes, naive conceptualization of “potential” because then you end up trying to control or manipulate the other person instead of respecting their autonomy. It’s not for you to psychoanalyze someone and visualize their potential for your own ends, that’s not helpful to him or the relationship, especially if you cannot acknowledge that there are personal/selfish reasons for you to want him to change. Yes, perhaps the changes you suggest would be good for him overall but, be honest, would you care as much about whether he changes if he was just a friend as opposed to a lover? For two people to grow together requires that they BOTH agree to the same goal and move in the same direction, and that does not seem to be happening. You want something that he can’t realistically give you or so he has expressed, therefore, you either accept the fact and work with it, or you move on to what you perceive to be greener pastures.