#‘I hate women‚ gay people‚ fat people‚ and white people’

[a-high-femme]

just told a kid who was going off about how he hates gay people that, in the kindest way, I want to throw him out the window ♥️ happy wednesday

[sailing-ever-west]

Okay but can we talk about how Big Mom is like one of the best portrayals in fiction of the problems with exoticism?

Narratives where one group hates the other for racial, cultural, physical, or other reasons are common, and although they still require nuanced execution to really be meaningful, in essence they're fairly easy to set up. "You're different, so I hate you and want you beneath me."

Exoticism, on the other hand, is something I really don't see dealt with as much. It takes more thought to explore the idea that oppression can be expressed not as outright hatred of certain traits, but through sensationalizing and commodifying them. Thinking a trait is cool or beautiful, but taking away the rights of the person it belongs to.

The way Totto Land is run demonstrates this perfectly. On the surface it's "accepting" of all races, people of all shapes and sizes, but not being directly attacked and discriminated against is held over all of their heads in order to exploit them for continued donations of their literal life force. Acceptance is conditional on their usefulness.

Big Mom also literally collects living creatures in a scrapbook zoo for her own entertainment, and creates beings bound to her will out of inanimate objects. She's enchanted with the idea of Brook as a living skeleton, holding him like a doll and playing with his hair (relevant that it's an afro, imo), only upset at his apparent "death" because she's lost her new favorite toy.

It's shown perhaps even more starkly with all of Big Mom’s children. She births offspring of every race in order to have their powerful traits under her command, and discards the fathers once they've added to the gene pool as she wanted. It's a tool of imperialism to get those people groups under her reign. And as shown with Pudding and Katakuri, she can sometimes personally be disgusted by the physical traits of her mixed children and make them feel the need to hide, only tolerating their appearance in hopes they'll be useful. She can't stand that Pudding looks like a beautiful human girl in every way except for that "gross ugly eye," a necessary evil that is only a positive if it grants her powers. She discriminates against her daughter even while benefiting from her.

It all feels so reminiscent of "oh, I only date Asian women because they're more attractive and have good wife traits," and "you're so pretty, but you'd look better with straight hair," and "white and Filipino couples make the most beautiful babies, that's who I want to marry," and "wow, you're so pale, I could barely guess you were Mexican," and "black people are just naturally better at sports" and "you'd look better with a tan" and "you'd look better if you were lighter" and "black hair is gorgeous but it doesn't look professional" and "I'm dressed up as a Gypsy/Indian/etc." and "I want a curvy girl but actually fat people are gross," and "I'd love to have a gay best friend lol, as long as they don't make it their whole personality," and "autism is your superpower! why do you act so weird though?" and on and on and on.

Big Mom is a fascinating and surprisingly realistic example of obsession with unique traits despite giving no actual respect to the people who have them. Once again, Oda, hats off on shockingly accurate depictions of oppressive systems.

[aishabellasbigblogofeverything]

Everytime I see one of those “oh don’t say you hate all men because that includes x minority men so you’re being a bigot!” genres of posts I feel like slamming my face or someone else’s face into the nearest wall. Like do you not realize the difference between being bigoted against a certain minority group and women having a justified rational logical hatred towards the gender/group that as a whole oppresses and mistreats us and sees us as less than??? Like it’s like if someone said that poc aren’t allowed to say that they hate white people because white gay people exist and therefore you’re being homophobic against white gay people. Like shut the fuck up, dumbass. This is clearly just a tactic to silence women for speaking out against misogyny in a way that doesn’t coddle or center men’s feelings like…if you can’t tell the difference between a woman saying that she hates men as a whole and bigotry towards a specific group of marginalized men then you’re a fucking disgraceful idiot and a misogynist lemme be the first one to tell you, don’t even pretend to be a feminist or anti-terf if you think a woman saying she hates men is saying that all men are bad or that she hates minority men in particular. Like

These two posts are the exact fucking same despite being written by two separate people. It’s like you can’t even conceive of the existence of marginalized WOMEN because your view of oppression starts and ends with men and “misandry is real you guys i swear 🥺” like do you think all the women who hate men are white cishet able-bodied perisex thin women and no one else lol do Black women brown women trans women lesbian/bisexual women fat women intersex women disabled women etc. even cross your damn mind? Are you completely fucking ignorant to the fact that all men have male privilege and are capable of using it against women and being misogynistic even if they don’t all have equal access to it/don’t hold systemic power against all groups of women or do you think that somehow only the most privileged echelons of white men can ever do anything wrong or sexist ever? “When you say all men you mean ALL men” yes I do, so? What’s your point? You gonna stop talking now or what? Like it or not there is no marginalized identity that shields a man from male privilege/misogyny or him being able to be called out for it lol there just isn’t and if you try to pretend that it is or that some men are above criticism(like how some people used to say that gay men can’t be misogynistic because they’re not sexually attracted to women) then you’re ignoring the women in those communities who are also oppressed not just by society at large but by the men in those communities who hold systemic institutional and social power over them. ALL men have hating women in common! Read that sentence again!!! Hating men as an oppressive class(which, let’s face it, is what they are) because the majority of them DO hurt or act sexist towards women in some way shape or form is not the same as hating men for their marginalized status because I can guarantee you that women with those marginalized statuses have it WAY way worse and hate men as well and are the vast majority of the people making these complaints about men to begin with, lol, so shut your damn mouths if you don’t have anything important or valuable to say.

They just hate to hear women talking about hating men because it upsets their fragile feelings so they look for any excuse to tell us that we’re the bad guys actually and dress it up under progressive thought when really they’re just the patriarchy’s asskissers, because before long they’re gonna start saying that you’re not allowed to hate white cishet men who are the most privileged in society. It’s just “not all men” in diverse dressing:

Like it never even occurs to these idiots that the women making these statements are also trans or poc or whatever other group and may very well have experienced misogyny and oppression from these groups and now they’re calling us “bioessentialist” and terfs for it as if we say we hate men because we think that they’re innately evil when really we KNOW they aren’t biologically hardwired to be that way! But the vast majority of them ARE that way because they choose to be, because of the social benefits they get from treating women as lesser, them being oppressed too doesn’t change that lol. These people don’t actually care about trans men or Black men or disabled men or queer men or whatever men they just want to pretend men as a whole are a victimized oppressed class just because some girl wrote “I hate men I wish they’d all kill themselves” in a Tumblr post once and they somehow think that’s the same as getting your rights violently stripped away but they want to look “progressive” about their Mra ideology so here you go. If you say you hate men then you’re a terf and gender essentialist! ‘Nuff said! I am very smart! 🤓

And one more thing, like…nobody who makes “I think all men should die” posts is like 100% serious about it lol. Like we all know that men aren’t going to all drop down dead because posts like these are being made lol. If they did then it would’ve happened a long time ago, and not just on Tumblr but on other social media sites too. These posts ultimately do nothing and have no power to hurt any man anywhere whatsoever. You’re all just angsting over literally fucking nothing. NOTHING, my darlings! Women are ALLOWED to vent about their anger they feel at the patriarchy because of what MEN(and it IS men) put them through without someone trying to make them feel guilty with some sort of gotcha to prove to them that they were secretly a hateful bigot all this time. Like I’m sorry if these posts offend you…grow up, maybe? Breathe some fresh air? Touch some grass? Interact with friends and family off the ‘net? You’ll realize pretty quickly how little some angry tumblr posts about how all men should be swept up in a storm cloud actually matter and effect people in the real world. Maybe instead of defending men and policing the way women complain about their oppression because it’s not nice enough for you you could instead work on combatting misogyny(you know, an actual real world problem??? 🙃🙃🙃) and making the women around you feel safe and treat them as equals so that they don’t feel annoyed at men enough to the point of complaining about how horrible men are to them. These posts aren’t made just for funsies they’re an actual legit response to the hostility men unleash upon women in every section of our lives every single goddamn day and I’ve had enough with a lot of you bitches trying to find any excuse to silence women when we talk about these things. Just scroll away or block us if it bothers you so much. It is so so free to do and takes very little effort, far less effort than actually getting up from your computer and taking a good long stretch which is what some of you fuckers actually need. That’s it I’m done here. Gonna go drink some water and eat a cookie.

[richiesnotaloserguyscmon]

DPS As Quotes From My Friend Group

Neil:

- Me with my gay rights

- Why is it a beige flag? When you mix red and green you don’t get beige, you get brown

- To get Beige, you’d have to mix a white flag in there and I’m not surrendering

- I can’t see my face

Todd:

- I had one but also two actually

- Every corner is a nap corner… if you believe

- You fish for dilfs?

- I can fake cry but it’s probably not fake so I’m just crying

Charlie: (honestly I could use all of these quotes for him)

- I’ll shoot your balls

- Did you have sex with a beaver or something?

- I’ll show up uninvited, with a gun

- He deserves to get shot in the penis

- Blood, sweat and tears, with a bit of semen

- When I die, I wanna crawl up his arsehole

Meeks:

- He looks like Brendan Frasier if he got stung by a bunch of bees

- *Recites the whole beginning of the Bee Movie*

- I get my news from a talking fish

- Your crush on him was so big… you had a fat crush, better yet, your crush was obese

- I need a lobotomy

- I’m gonna cut your leg off and shove it up your arse

Knox:

- His long luscious beard I want him to choke me with it

- I wish Neil would stop sending me gay people

- What about a woman who has saggy tits… like a grandma

- No one look at me while I deepthroat this

- He (Mr Keating) could be the onceler if he really tried

Pitts:

- You only think I’m funny because I say dumb shit all the time

- We’re like the transformers of old people… Geriatrics roll out!

- I’m as tall as a traffic light

- I love this music! Is that water by dripping toilet?

- Why do you like Barbie if you hate women?

Cameron:

- I do not deserve to get shot in the penis

- Please don’t shoot my balls

- Readings for weenies and girls, and I’m a strong heterosexual male

[t4tails]

i say to myself every time i see an annoying good omens post that most of these people would not think twice about the rest of it if there wasnt a milquetoast gay romance involved. the 'love story' (of the show. the book does it way better, not that most of the tv fans have read it) revolving around the main relationship has been molded into something incredibly boring. the two gay women feel like theyre just there to fill a quota. for the Everything terrible that it is at least homestuck was a fun read and has themes that express themselves outside of its ships

oh yeah the tv show really did make az & crow super boring too. ive talked about it before i think, but i hate how before the tv show came out, fanart of them would be so diverse in design and commonly have one or both as poc, with aziraphale also being drawn fat a lot. then the show came and now its these two white dudes and aziraphale may be a bit chubby if youre lucky. and then the complete sterilization of their dynamic, with many people including myself reading them as already in a relationship during the book, but then theyre turned into fucking eternally pining highschoolers. enraging!

[humorisstoredinthetits]

Heathers as random things my friends and I have said

Just a heads up some of these things might be considered racist or otherwise offensive, they were not meant that way and I apologize if that is the case, this is all just dumb stuff we've said to make each other laugh

Duke: "I hate white people sometimes"

Chandler (To Duke): "Go back to the North Pole, Elf"

Mac: "I was racist when I was little, I used to call black people chocolate"

Mac: "Coward the Couragely Dog"

Chandler: "I'm picking privileged because I'm white"

Veronica: "Chandler isn't a tsundere, she's a needy bitch"

Duke: "Humor is stored in the tits, which is why Mac isn't funny"

Martha: "I'm a fat bitch just trynna enjoy a fight"

Mac: "Have a nice gay"

Duke (In a bad asian accent): "My eyes may be squinty, but I can still see a bitch"

Chandler: "Duke is Korean you know?" Mac: "I thought she was Asian"

Chandler: "a fat girl just called me a snack, idk if that's a compliment or a threat"

Veronica: "Ow the fires hot" proceeds to play with the fire

Chandler: "Who said you can step on me, only women are allowed to step on me"

Duke: "Chandler's only weakness, a lesbian"

Chandler: "It's okay to be gay, as long as you're good at it"

Mac: "I'm too white suburban to be Ghetto"

Duke: "If your girlfriend is so good then she's good enough to share"

Duke: "If pumpkin spice is what it takes to get bitches, then I'll be the white's bitch"

Veronica: "You know I could just leave and deepthroat another popsicle"

Duke: "Says the microphobe" Chandler: "What the hell is a microphobe?" Duke: "YOU HATE SHORT PEOPLE!"

Duke: "It's so hot out here that i'm sweating harder than a blind lesbian at the fish market"

Duke: "Chandler is a power bottom. She's a bottom because she doesn't get any attention from her parents"

Mac: "its just women, man"

Duke: "Among Us Church"

Duke: "Whoops sorry, wrong minority"

Mac: "Chandler would you like to own me"

[transmascpetewentz]

got an incredibly transandrophobic series of asks infantilizing me and trying to lecture me about my own life experiences. please show me where the world is where trans male bodies are not called ugly. teleporting to the alternate reality rn where people don't see trans men's features as women's features but more ugly.

where is this world where trans men don't have to deal with what cis women deal with, but worse?

also yes, the biases about men being creeps are very much real. they harm queer men, non-white men, and fat men disproportionately.

anon is operating under the assumption that i don't have life experience. i do. i am pre t, very clockable, but still obviously not cis. everyone who isn't a trans man hates me. cis women hate me for "betraying" them, cis straight men hate me because they don't find me attractive, cis gay men hate me so much they treat my body like it's a disease.

i feel isolated not because i make posts on tumblr but because the only people i have in my life who can understand what i go through are other mlm trans men. i post about what i go through here on tumblr because i want to spread more awareness to make life better for me. and it's really misogynistic of anon to attempt to gaslight me into thinking that all of the things that happen to me never actually happen.

this kind of baby-talk sets off a physical fear response in my body due to trauma from being infantilized as for being a trans man. and honestly i've been feeling like shit this whole week so i don't appreciate it.

[bookshelfdreams]

aaaaah no i saw another "Izzy can't be homophobic you idiot I headcanon him as gay and anyway, he's right to hate Stede for being soft and inexperienced and rich" post send help (ik all of this has been said before and better, I just need to get it out of my system)

First of all, Izzy is a white and maybe not straight but definitely traditionally masculine man in a society where racism/sexism/homophobia/associated bigotry exist. Okay? Okay. These things exist in the ofmd universe, there's no arguing that away. It therefore stands to reason that Izzy, who grew up in that environment, harbours homophobic sentiments, because it is literally impossible to avoid that.

Detesting Stede for being effeminate and gnc is homophobia. Plain and simple. That's the core of homophobia. It's not about who someone finds attractive in their heart, it's about doing gender wrong. It's not so much about who you have sex with, but how you're doing it.

(And this is what Izzy and Calico Jack and the Badmintons and everone who ever bullied him hate about him. It's not that he's upper class. It's not that he's rich. It's this.)

Homophobia and the patriarchy go hand in hand. Under patriarchy, anything masculine is good and superior and anything feminine is weak and detestable. A good man, a proper man is defined by what he isn't (=not ever feminine), and any association with femininity is degrading. This is why Stede is called a woman (derogatory) by people who are perfectly aware he is a guy, why he's called Baby Bonnet: Both these things say You are not a real man. Does anyone who hurls abuse at him think he's gay? Who knows! It's well known he's married and has children, for fuck's sake! But it doesn't matter what's in Stede's heart, it matters how he behaves, how he speaks and carries himself, his interests, his inability to fit it.

Why do you think he's called fat when he isn't as an adult and wasn't as a child? It's the same thing, it's not logical, just a way for people to express their vague discomfort with him in the most hurtful way possible.

The way Izzy talks about him and the way the Badmintons talk about him parallel each other and that's not a coincidence. Izzy talks about Stede as having "done something" to Ed's "brain", Chauncey Badminton says he "ruined" Ed, that he's "not human" and a "monster". This is the exact violent, dehumanizing rhetoric that has forever been flung at gnc gay men, effeminacy as a corrupting, contagious influence, good upstanding manly men being seduced (hah!) into the Gay Lifestyle. You're not a person, you're a disease.

Fop and ponce may be old fashioned but they are also homophobic slurs.

Izzy doesn't detest the upper class. He has no trouble at all weaponizing his whiteness against Ed when he sends the English after him, when he attempts to buy Ed for himself with Stede's life. Izzy can fit into that world well enough to use it for his own gain as long as it will let him, and sure, he'll be crushed as soon as he's no longer useful but that doesn't stop him from aligning himself with the literal enemy, does it? That's what makes Izzy a class traitor (derogatory) btw, and why analysis that tries to paint him as "just a working class guy who hates the rich" a little silly.

("We're not bigots we are just ordinary salt-of-the-earth working class guys who hate the out of touch liberal elite and anyway, they're all perverts" hmmm, where have I heard this before?)

It's baffling to me that people watch this show and genuinely think "Izzy isn't homophobic, he just hates Stede because he's rich" is a good argument like??? Who expresses this exact sentiment in the show????

Look. I know where this comes from. I too read Izzy as queer. But queer people are perfectly capable of being homophobic towards each other.

Izzy can accept Ed having sex with men who are not him. He's fine with that, and sure, that seems to be proof that He can't be homophobic! at first glance. But, under patriarchy, not liking women sexually is - well, maybe not ideal but under certain circumstances acceptable (after all, under patriarchy, not liking women is perfectly reasonable and encouraged, so it's not a huge leap). But what is not acceptable, what needs to be violently suppressed at all costs, is men being insufficiently masculine.

Which is what Izzy detests about Stede, and what he attacks Ed for in ep10. And this is homophobia in a nutshell.

[waterbugsanonymous]

when i first watched somerton the first videos i watched we’re fine, i never found him super engaging, i always found his presentation to be very monotone (as if he was reading an article for the first time perhaps) but he definitely had some good one liners (…now we know why) but the thing that made me stop watching him was truly the misogyny?

it didn’t fully occur to me at the time, and obviously the h bomb video put many many things about somerton’s work in perspective, but yeah can we please talk about how this white gay man just always had some shit to say about women? like yeah he’d say white woken or whatever, maybe sometime even call them straight! but idk he just always gave the vibes of “Chelsea didn’t invite me to her sweet 16 because i told her her party dress made her look fat, she was only ever friends with me because i was her gay BFF anyway she just wants a cry-on” to “i don’t talk to women anymore, us men are only here to talk about the classics” to finally “i’m a gay white man on grindr who has no POC in their bio”

i know the entire discussion about this basically just culminates into the “ you gay bc you like men in gay bc i hate women, we are not the same” meme but truly fucking awful that someone can be see as a PROMINENT lgbtq+ voice that was seen primarily by younger people/people generally less educated on the topics of lgbtq history

[marinetti-dinner-party]

okay, wait, epiphany

i'd venture to say the modern right hates straight women even more than lesbians. for what it's worth, they've largely accepted lesbians aren't gonna sleep with them. yes, they still think gay people (mostly gay men or trans women) are recruiting/grooming/dangerous, and they still hate women, but there's a special kind of sexual malice straight men have for straight women i don't see anywhere else.

progress, i suppose.

the lurid edgy posts describing 'white sharia' never mention lesbians, only libshit blue hair n pronouns war brides. most of the "ugly fat women versus tradwives" goofus and gallant pics are partially a case of attempted 'lifestyle fascism' advertising, half sour grapes. as to bi women, they see us as not being truly attracted to women (we're brainwashed by modernity obviously). as edge cases, we're conditionally straight. we're the italians of sex politics. 'bi,' like 'no,' translates to 'convince me.'

these men do not actually dream of rape. they are misogynists, they are HOMICIDAL misogynists in some cases, but most do not actually want to rape women. they harbor a dream that, secretly, the women like it. i'm reminded of a post by 'the last psychiatrist' from a decade+ ago. they hope that if they tie you to the radiator enough you'll come to love them forever

there are some cases where the women gleefully participate in the larp (even if neither party recognizes it as a larp as such). but there are other cases where there's a mismatch in desires, the women are traumatized, the men embittered and angry, taking it out on their wives.

[vivianbernadetteaurora]

Oprah the devil act one scene one

I think we can all agree that this woman here is part of the problem, I’m by the look what she said and then look what she’s done, wanted to take Michael Jackson down, and David Gaffin well, her connections with him as suss, apparently according to blind item lore, Gavin who funded the documentary along with Oprah leaving Neverland, I’m not saying I don’t believe Michael Jackson didn’t do what he did because I do I know these powerful people, abuse their own meaning people in the industry with them because of their connections but to a civilian they might or someone is not enter the chat Evan Rachel wood, it is tale as oldest time, and unfortunately it doesn’t seem to be stopping, they seem to just migrate, yes you the scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz Russell Simmons yes Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks didn’t you even in the Simpsons movie?, Covid oh unsurprised surprise you were the first person you have it., moved to Greece where the age of consent is 14 we know about you and your weird picture taking.

But as you can see, all these people know about Weinstein and Hollywood I believe, I mean in Gwyneth Paltrow speech where she thinks Harvey Weinstein she’s holding back the tears and I believe she’s holding back the tears because she realised she had to thank that fat bastard who treated her so badly, that Brad Pitt even had to step in and have a few words at him about his behaviour with women about his grotesque ways. I’m so glad Rowan Farrow doesn’t have any problem or didn’t have any problem in taking him down. Many people tried to and we couldn’t but he had his mother., had a sister to one stepsister one adoptive I believe, Rowan Farrow allegedly came out of Woody Allen’s ball sack no way, he looks far too much like Sinatra and he has so much more respect for women, as do most gay men well not all, in fact I can think of some who can be really disgusting. Enter Barney from how I Met your mother., Winehouse cake after she died Hollywood and you’re all coming out and you be seen for wicked ways but Oprah promoted so many things games having weird people on your show fans and people like Russell Wilson and Harvey Weinstein come on girl have a bit of class, we need to bring down this corruption in Hollywood but your supporting foundation of it these women why do you need to support these men so badly as well.

There’s even a cult leader called son of God John of God who essay women and children Oprah knew this she didn’t care she didn’t care , she just moves on that’s proper Hollywood where you don’t even say it. That’s your PR team. You just don’t talk about it. It happens but we don’t talk about it. It happens but let’s move on. It happens but what a shame but now I’m going to stand over here. I’m sorry the people are getting sick of it and your way your way being at parties and looking like you’re high on cake with Harvey Weinstein that’s a typo I’m gonna leave in., he would be high on cake, you obviously know I meant Coke right,. You know the white snowy stuff.

This woman has such audacity it’s beyond belief, and I’m sorry to say I hate to say it I really do but this is why Rita Ora has gone so far with little talent, yachting it up and then, understand and look at the first picture and read it and you’ll see what I mean, that means and now it’s just common folklore in blind items. Oprah, we do we see you and Gayle king .jail king if you know you know.🙇🏼‍♂️🤬😠👹🤮

[egg-emperor]

Random eggman related thoughts I had plus sum others:

do you think past and present eggman were going at it during sonic generations

I mean hes a narcissistic genius who probably thinks he’s the hottest guy around (besides you ofc)

Cris thorndikes cleaning lady who’s name I forgot x eggman is a cute ship and all but I personally don’t care for it. Like it could work with classic eggman maybe but modern eggman would never lol

how did eggman get to Sonic’s world? Like mobius and earth are two separate locations, how tf did he manage time travel to get there

thoughts on eggman nega?

do you think eggy has robots he can fuck or nah

what is up with that idw panel of elder scruffy tied up in that tree? Like he genuinely looks like rough and tumble blew his back out before tiring him up

(god i need that old goat like it’s not even funny i wanna feel his face get warmer as i kiss him all over his sexy body i mean what who said that)

I don't think modern and classic Eggman were fucking, I know they were lol. Doesn't get more obvious than how Eggman gushes and swoons over himself and calls himself handsome (just listen to his Team Sonic Racing voice clips), always seemed flirty with his classic self in Gens and literally called him "my dear doctor" in the rewrite. He's always been attracted to himself so they would've immediately been into each other the second they met as physically separate beings, there's absolutely no way they haven't fucked

They'd explore each other with a lot of curiosities for how they change over time. Modern would like introducing things he's into but classic hasn't discovered yet so he can have fun sooner in time and they carry out all the selfcest fantasies they always had. I can imagine it not being long until they were intensely making out and fucking, I can imagine a lot of their offscreen time involved them fucking in all the ways they've definitely always dreamed of

But I also like the idea of them getting curious in white space if they somehow haven't fucked already or just also doing so there as well as they're seeking stress relief after the frustration of their defeat and being at a loss on how to escape for a while. Just being all over each other and trying out everything they can imagine when they're lost in time and space and have all the nonexistent time in the void to just explore each other with nothing to interrupt them and they can be as loud and dirty as they want

They can think much more clearly to figure a way out after emptying their balls lol. I've been planning on writing a short fic based on that concept too

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I personally really dislike Eggman x Ella. Very forced and OOC pair for the X comics and not even canon or accurate to the X show because Ella only feared and hated him and Eggman didn't give a fuck to even acknowledge her beyond when he was directly attacked by her and there was anything but attraction between them

It's uncomfortable for its generic "fat woman x man so obviously they're the only people for each other and would be into each other" vibes. And it always was uncomfortable how the Archie comics in general acted like every character needed to be paired up

It also disregards Eggman's love for himself and his narcissism, he'd never value anyone as highly or higher than himself. He's the only one who has a place as photos on his wall to swoon over, he'd never gush and swoon and hype anyone else up that isn't himself like that

It wouldn't work for game Egg in the slightest and I don't imagine him ever being vastly different in personality to ever work with Classic either because it's never been implied that he wasn't always narcissistic and self loving with no love to give anyone but himself

The closest that can be attributed to his potential type in the actual games (besides non canon spin offs with Bowser) are muscular men with his gay Hot Shelter hall dedicated to statues of them posing suggestively, so like an exact opposite of fat women lol

I don't ship Eggman with women in general because it's not implied he's attracted to them in game canon so you can believe whatever. But this is definitely one of the worst ships involving one for how OOC and forced it is only due to heteronormavity + stereotypes

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I don't know about the other non canon adaptions besides X where the planet split into two and Eggman found out the world with all the humans on it was the one he was born on but they never explained how he got there and why he doesn't remember it. However it wasn't actually called Mobius in X

And as for the game canon where all of my personal interest and focus lies, there isn't two worlds and the one world that does exist is Earth that Eggman, Sonic and co and all the humans all live on together so it's a lot simpler and preferable to me than the existence of a whole new planet

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I just don't really care for or have anything to say about Nega. He doesn't have anything super interesting going for him as he's just Eggman but different colors and a less interesting motive to me

And I'm not a fan of how people see him as eviller, as if regular Eggman isn't extremely evil himself and ruling the world and making everyone suffer long term under his harsh rule isn't way more evil than just destroying it and that being the end of it

That's pretty much all I have to say

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He absolutely has robots he can fuck, this is canon. He created Egg Pawns with a libido that can swoon with love hearts in their eyes and persue in Generations. It was definitely so they'd be attracted to him and all swarm him to love him up and play with him. Cubot is also literally canonically into him so

I like to think he doesn't just have designated robots and machines for fucking, though he definitely would have those too, but also I like to imagine there are some secret slots and attachable parts to most of his models, so he can fuck/be fucked by pretty much all of them

I think if it being another of the reasons he's fine living so far away from living beings and only being around his own creations. He's far from lonely in the bedroom with all the robots and machines he has as well as toys to play with that he could ever need to satisfy his desires

The occasions he fucks living beings is just a bonus for him

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Yeah it does certainly look like Elder Scruffy may have already been roughed up by Rough and Tumble already when he's tied up like that ;) He is super cute, I love old timers like him being so overwhelmed to be loved up and desired in their old age. Similar to my Eggman x The Conductor from Murder of Sonic thoughts I shared on my ns4w blog lol

[boreal-sea]

It's honestly shocking to me how many trans women bloggers on here don't understand what a massive red flag hating men is. Like girlie that's the rhetoric TERFs use against us (as in trans women). Why would you repeat it, even if it's not including trans women in it there's still tons of oppressed men who are minorities. There's trans men. Black men. Gay men. Fat men. Physically and mentally disabled men. Neurodivergent men. Genderfluid and multigender people who are men. Butch lesbians who are men. If people include those in "I hate men" then it's really not the progressive take they think it is. If they don't? Congratulations they basically just admitted that they don't see them as "real men" which is a whole other problem. When will people realize that unless they're talking about a literal hate group, saying "I hate all X" will never be a progressive take. You don't hate all men you hate the patriarchy and toxic masculinity. You don't hate all white people you hate white supremacists and people who refuse to unlearn white supremacy. You don't hate all cis people you hate TERFs. I could go on but I don't want to get too far away from the point. Which is, don't be a dick to men. They are not a group that's here to be hated progressively and if that's something that's upsetting to people then there's a lot they have to learn about fighting fascism. There could be a lot more going on in their life than is obvious from a passing glance and I'm so tired of the leftism immediately leaving people's body when it comes to trans men specifically. It's something that will always make me feel extremely unsafe as a genderfluid person.

I am grateful that most trans women are not like that and it's only a small minority who are truly off the edge into radfem territory!

[thingamagob]

huge hate in my heart for women who think of "girlhood" as being dainty, innocent, sheltered and coveted. as if thats just the default girl experience and not their specific experience.

ive wanted to make a post about the ostracization of women within womens spaces of those who dont fit that bill for a long time. women of color, fat women, trans women, butch women, any woman who doesnt align well enough with that white, middle class archetype that we are told is the norm.

there is no "solidarity among women" for us. i was never treated like a girl. most who dont fit the aforementioned bill ever are. "womanhood" as they describe it is a costume and a privilege only those with certain attributes ever get to wear. its not real.

the closest you can come to defining what its like to be "a girl" is to talk about the oppression we face under cishet men who, by default, stand at the top of our society. which everyone who isnt one faces. including trans women, trans men, dykes, fags, you name it. you dont fit into that "ruling class" and youre one of us.

i have more in common with trans women than i could ever have with the type of woman who thinks of girlhood as dainty, delicate, and protected. i have more in common with gay men, trans men, and lesbians than women who believe that "divine feminine" is a thing.

so when t3rfs try to tell me i should be on their side because im "one of them" all i want to say is... am i? have you finally granted me that privilege now that you need my help to bludgeon a vulnerable sect of people back into their place? how sweet. how thoughtful of you. no thanks

[the-official-account]

Is it just me, or does lesbian fandom have a problem?

My name is Edil. I've been a medium-sized name in several small fandoms, especially podcast fandoms. I am also a women appreciator, and enjoy media that centers on women. I'm going to mostly be talking about my experiences in two fandoms: The Strange Case Of Starship Iris and Pasithea Powder, both podcasts with central wlw ships, though I've also seen these same issues in Goncharov (1973) of all places.

When I go into fandom I go hard. My brain, which is very autistic, breaks down information of small details for fun. It's the reason why I wrote a dwarnian (TSCOSI's fictional alien language) dictionary for the podcast. The reason why I have a massive notes document on all of Pasithea's season one and the reason the wiki...looks and reads like that. It isn't owned by me, but most of the formatting, fonts, content: yours truly.

And I'm proud of these projects, which took time and effort and skill building to do! But I haven't finished or caught up with either of these podcasts, and that's because the online spaces that center around them have been overwhelmingly hostile.

I have a strong emotional connection to this issue — of whether or not sapphic fandoms tend to be more hostile to diversity, especially race and nuerodivergance — so I can't make a distinct analysis, not without more distance and more information. That's part of why I am making this post.

Mods and members of the TSCOSI discord circa 2020 will know me, and know why I left. That being a series of unwarranted criticisms and bad faith readings that left me with anxiety even interacting with the fandom I loved.

I am probably a lot less known in the Pasithea fandom, because I wrote fewer fics for it and left more quickly. After TSCOSI, I recognized resentment faster. But the Pasithea notes document that I've posted here before and the wiki, three fics, fan art and that one comic that's still to this day the only comic I've drawn: me.

This is not a callout post, not for individuals or for groups, and I don't have screenshots. I am only trying to open a discussion.

See, the pattern that I am seeing is that fandom spaces centering on wlw ships attract fans who are wlw. And while nothing is inherently wrong with that, issues in the lesbian community start to become very obvious.

Firstly, the lack of diversity in sexuality among most of the fan base (As I suspect bi and gay people have largely more popular media that attracts them, and lesbians have to dig deeper for smaller spaces like these podcast) starts to feed this sense of possession among fans. As if there is a correct, normal, or standard way to be sapphic. A set of rules stating that anyone who doesn't obey it hates lesbians.

From Pasithea, I got this in comments about how I was drawing the characters "ugly" (Jane is canonically fat and has a scar, which I made very visible...because I wanted to. I gave her strong Hispanic features because it appealed to me. Sophie is butch, and canonically has or had a buzz cut. Which is what I drew. — The "appearance" section of the wiki? Yup. I wrote that.)

These comments, which were themselves problematic, came from a place of implying I was lesbiphobic for drawing these wlw as "ugly". When in fact, I was drawing the type of characters that would appeal the most to me, and hopefully to others like me.

These expectations of skinny, eurocentric appearing, usually feminine characters... Well it reflects a lot of issues with TERF-y feminism and lesbianism at large. Lesbianism on the internet has an issue with gender essentialism that isn't universal but is incredibly worrying. And when WOC are often masculinized because of their non-white features, that transphobia becomes anti-butchness (or strict standards of butchness) and racism.

While TSCOSI fans were more receptive to my designs, I was drawing in a less realistic style where "ugly" was less of an issue — and, to be frank, The main ship being Southeast and South Asian made it hard to draw them "ugly" from a eurocentric perspective. Realism there would just be...exotic, I guess.

However, with TSCOSI fans there was still a sense of possession around how these characters were interpreted, especially in headcannons, that lead to me deleting more than I posted as time went on. Some of those were genuine issues on my part ("what if the Jewish guy was a vampire in a au haha!" I said. Then went to bed, woke up, googled it, and went "NOPE! NOPE!!! SORRY.") Others were just unnecessary, such as comments on how silly head cannons were "unrealistic", and how I should write more cannon compliant work, rather than what I was doing for fun.

Ultimately these are the ONLY things that made me stop listening to these podcasts. The ONLY reason I put down the projects I poured consecutive hyperfixate weeks into. Part of me thinks it was this enthusiasm in the first place that was the biggest threat others reacted to in how I spoke and acted.

For instance, in trying to write for both the TSCOSI and Pasithea wikis, I had folks try to change my methods of research and writing to a style that worked best for them. When I said they were welcome to work that way, there was no offers to assist. And communication with those who had established work was either non-existent or hostile. I've had people question if my passion projects were necessary, berate me for meaningless mistakes, and treat what could be fun collaborative work like a pissing contest. For TSCOSI, none of this occurred on the wiki, and mostly around documents I owned for my own note taking. Even then, the hostility of Wikipedia culture is an unnecessary and hurtful thing to bring into fandom wiki culture.

The TSCOSI people went on to make a wonderful wiki that I deeply admire, but I still wish I could have been part of that project in its infancy, instead of being pushed away. (I may have made the navigation system if I remember correctly, but I'm not certain. So this is not to say I was not allowed any input whatsoever.)

I love sapphic media, it's my bread, butter, pride, joy, and favorite past time. But time and time again I have found far safer social spaces for media that centers around gay men, even if it isn't my personal first choice.

As a non-white, non-allistic, non-lesbian, not-skinny fan...I have concerns.

I know you all want sapphic media to get more attention. I want that too. But unless you start actively searching for and calling out bigotry in those spaces, it absolutely cannot and will not happen. So much of fandom is powered by autistic people with time on their hands, and I want there to be space for people like me. Who get TOO excited, TOO far from cannon, TOO analytical about race and class and fatphobia and whatever else.

Sapphic media obviously has issues reaching fans that aren't the fault it's its current audience. But the good thing about being part of or close to a problem, is having the power to make incredible, effective change.

I refuse to leave these podcasts behind, I love them more than anything, and the projects I got out of them are still my beloved brain children (The alien calligraphy from the random writing system I made for dwarnian is still up on my wall. "It is what. It IS what, keeps us from the abyss.") I refuse to be shoved aside my racist fans and random people who assume they can act rudely to strangers because they treated characters or lore differently. I refuse to be sidelined from conversations just cause I can act weird.

But I also refuse to spend so much of my beloved labor on people who turn up their noses and belittle it.

This all has had a lasting effect on how I interact with fandom, a legitimate fear-responce to the idea of trying to engage deeply with women-centered podcasts. Something I'm trying to unlearn and overcome.

So. There's my explanation of why I don't do tscosi anymore, which I mentioned on the minibang I'd eventually follow up on. And a criticism of sapphic fandom which, I'll be real, I have a few more essays worth of commentary about, and it's also another expression of how I stare longingly at Pasithea every time it comes up on my dash.

But, most importantly, this is my question of whether anyone else has found themselves in a similar place. If it's a trend or an anecdote.

If you have thoughts, please reblog with them. I'd love to know what you have to say.

[unlimitedhorsepower]

I made a joke once that makes Ryan seem a little homophobic if u don't consider him automatically LGBT all at once and someone left some tags on that post pointing it out and agreeing and I've been tormented by that ever since.

Tormented by thinking people think Ryan is specifically homophobic or misogynist. Even if you consider him a 100% cishet metrosexual he's cringe and fail at worst!!

Ever since he was created his personality trait has explicitly been "treats everyone equally". He's just insufferable and annoying, not bigoted I swear!!!! That goes against his character bc the point is imo that he seems like the worst guy ever like if you met him you would be like wow look at this megamisogynist rolling in but then you realize that he's not specifically misogynist he just makes you wanna rip ur hair out in general.

He doesn't bother women. He bothers everyone. His worst canon moment is when he gave his number to a waitress and a personal trainer like pls these women are doing their jobs... Albeit other texted him the same evening and Ryan's other skill is insight so one would hope he's not being a problem

On the other hand he equally bothered Yuri at work in the manga by being like hi here's my gift and literally shows up at Barnaby'a door in that one audio drama even tho Barnaby told him he's busy

To me Ryan is the person who didn't think too hard about anything in his life and in fact actively avoids it so he isn't totally sure gay people are real but he's more concerned whether the gays are attracted to him or not bc they better be.

Ryan slept with a girl with a dick and brought this up to Nathan who was about to euthanize him but he was just confused how come she was wearing a dress without a bulge. Like where was the dick before that. He's so distraught like do women have secret magical powers. Sometimes he would like to seem like his cock is less fat too, so how come... Explain that Nathan. Where do the balls go

Tormented by Ryan and Nathan not hanging out more. They love fashion and vehicles and muscles etc. Nathan needs to take Ryan to a gay bar so bad so that one tweet can come true, the one that goes "white boy shocks bartender by ordering in fluent LGBT". See my vision???? TNB hates women and gay ppl too much OK but in a better world .