#—AotC™

[celenequinn]

TBB S3:11 Thoughts

MAJOR SPOILERS

POOKIES????

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POOKIES NO

Anyone else feel our LACK OF PLOT AMOUR?

Geez i miss TCW when we KNEW those bitches wouldn't die.

By character:

Omega: Baby I'm so proud of you. She hung out with her girlies, and dealt with her greif? A win all around. "And it's my choice." Hell yeah girl! Work that agency! Also pookie took an ethics course and said "yeah attacking this whole town for lil ol me? Not happening.

Crosshair: WHY DID YOU LET HER GO? Your little quips can't save her. And then as a cherry on top you hit EVERY SHOT EXECPT THE ONE THAT COUNTS. Rip Crosshair, can't wait to watch your brothers kill you.

Hunter: We get it you're Rambo. (But honostly he never disappoints in an action scene, keep doing you Hunter) Also, congrats to all the Hunter girlies for wet hair hunter™.

Wrecker: Hun you got me so nervous. My life flashed before my eyes. I will always be a Wrecker Girlie and Omega defender. (im working overtime). But the lack of plot amour he has is insane. And his blowing up WITH THEIR HOME? Look Wrecker has always been a 'home' for the batch. And in that moment they *almost* lost everything they could rely on. I was holding my breath. Gave me flashbacks to to Dormé and Padme in AOTC.

Additional: Loving all of our characters coming back. (Phee ecspecially) Also Matt Lanter did some additional voices (have i just missed that he's still active in SWs besides Ani?) Those little white boy clones are back, they still shock me. And Omega's mugshot was a jumpscare.

Ok that's all. A lot of an episode.

Long live Batcher

[kingofthecon]

“Hello,” I stated with uncertainty as I slide back over to Tumblr waving nervously and ready to bolt at the first sign of an angry mob fully prepared to skin me alive for my lack of presence.

“It’s been awhile, huh everyone? Y-yeah, my bad.”

So updates cause I can’t remember if I’ve explained everything so we’re just gonna start at the beginning, more or less. First thing’s first - my attention has been on discord. Easier to access from my phone, I’m too easily distracted with things that I see first.

Then there’s the more important things. As some of you know I was finally able to move out of my abusive mother’s house back in May and things were going well. And then you know, roommate problems started happening. Still better than living with my mom. We’re not gonna go into all that but there’s was a lot of stress involved, drama, etc. Long story short I have an apartment, I’m dealing with a roommate who doesn’t see the issue with not washing the dishes leaving me to do 80% of the housework while he plays League of Legends, I have a car now, insurance, title, etc etc. And my anxiety hasn’t settled down completely and it’s still fluctuating.

I’m planning to make my way back here. I’m also in the process of trying to remember my password for @cosmictransit because I haven’t forgotten I owe there (I’ve disappeared from Tumblr completely pretty much) I just haven’t been able to log in. xD

But yeah, I’m hoping to send out at least one reply from here today, so we’ll see what happens! I’M SO SORRY. ♥♥♥

[art0fthec0n]

I AM PLAYING CATCH UP ON ALL THE DRAWING THINGS THAT I HAVE MISSED. IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY REMISS OF ME IF I DIDN’T ADD MY CONTRIBUTION CONSIDERING THAT I WRITE STANLEY, AND HAVE BEEN FOR LIKE, FIVE YEARS OVER VARIOUS SITES. I had to add my college boi to the @jackyjackdraws​​ drawpile. ♥ This particularly headcanon has taken control of my life now that I actually have a chance to write it out with other people. 

Hey guys, a huge thanks for the 900 followers

We are getting closer to the 1k boyos! I'm so excited

To celebrate, I am hosting a Stanley Pines drawpile, very similar to the one Eregyrn did

The rules are simple:

-Draw your version of the Stan while adding mine in the picture, doesn't matter if you think you can't draw, just go for it! You won't be judged in any way

-Reblog the post with your Stan added

-Send me via DM your transparent Png of your version of Stan, so that I can make one definitive drawpile of all the Stans in the end (must be 300 dpi minimum)

-Every version of Stan is accepted! AUs, Hc, you name it! If it is Stan, then it's 100% allowed

-Feel free to post your version of Stan after you do all these steps! And make sure to tag "Stan Pines Drawpile"

And that pretty much covers it, I'm looking forward to see what you guys will bring to the table =)

[forcesensitivebantha]

once again stating my opinion that the reason why dude bro™ star wars fans have such an issue with Temuera's performance of Boba is that in their minds, they're boba fett. Since during his introduction he was an absolute blank slate (and note how they threw fits over young boba in aotc and tcw) he was there to project their action hero fantasies on. and now that he's being portrayed with nuance and subtlety, and not raining space bullets down on anyone who breathes in direction while also having a bunch of bond girls hanging around him, he's "lame". idk. watching other guys egos crumble at bobas interactions with the tuskens is fascinating.

[iamfitzwilliamdarcy]

in aotc when Anakin and Padme are talking about Government™ and Ideology™ and he says someone should make the politicians agree and she’s like “who, you?” and he’s like of course not me like it’s the most ridiculous thing he’s ever heard and i’m like 

also not over that 

esp bc- he offers an Empire to Padme and then to Luke 

[smhalltheurlsaretaken]

I know this is a serious scene and all, but my favorite thing about this? Is that Mace and Obi-Wan look about two minutes away from saying “kriff it” and just sitting on the floor with their back against the cushions. 

Decorum? In their Jedi Temple? 

This scene was designed to show the concern they were having over the Chancellor’s grab for power, and that there was a lot more intrigue going on with the Council over what was going on in the Senate. – George Lucas 

[obiwanobi]

(De-anoning here, hi!)

I did not know I was this into public D/s, but here I am. Holy hells. 🥵 Just. Obi-Wan being a little shit is a delight and I'm having flashbacks to the "You will learn your place, you one" scene in AotC but with added praise a la RotS when Anakin does start to behave. The poor boy would c o m b u s t. Sorry, Palps, unless you can beat Obi-Wan in the game of Sexy Dom, you haven't got a chance anymore.

Although I find it both hot and kinda sweet that Obi-Wan just going full throttle into D/s with Anakin is what prevents The Darkest Timeline™. Anakin gets the stability and structure he requires and Obi-Wan gets ~communicate his feelings~ more. Mace, seeing all the shatterpoints, is just:

Meanwhile Anakin is basking in having his hair petted and being cooed that he's such a good boy, the sweetest boy, his Master's pride and joy.

I truly hope that in this Good Timeline, Obi-Wan finally decides to put Anakin out of his misery after Anakin does something exceptionally well and comes back all eager to tell his Master, and fucks him properly right when Palpatine thought he was getting somewhere with Anakin.

So Palpatine is there rubbing his hands together, thinking "this is it! finally, an opportunity to get him away from Kenobi's influence!!' and then Anakin arrives in his office and manages to be absolutely useless, space out multiple times and leaves in a hurry after receiving a message on his comm without saying goodbye and Palpatine is left fulminating "I don't know how but I know this is Kenobi's fault"

[hecckyeah]

Here's a hot take, which really shouldn't be that hot:

Owen and Beru Lars actually really loved Luke and vice versa, and they weren't as distant and Mean™ as everyone seems to imagine

I mean come on, let's be real.

They seem like really honestly nice people, first of all. When we see them in AotC, they're somber (for obvious reasons) and Beru is just naturally very quiet. But Owen makes an effort to talk to Anakin, and it seems like he really cared about Shmi and is heartbroken about her capture and later, her death

Yes, they're wary about Luke, that's not even a question. They didn't approve of anakin at all to begin with, Owen thought he should have stayed on Tatooine with his mother instead of going galavanting across the galaxy to become a space wizard

And imagine getting a call like "hey how's it going, this is your crazy step brother's old master who he ran off again to save four years ago, he actually went evil and killed thousands of people and now he's helping the emperor start a reign of terror, anyway he was secretly married to that girl you met once (padme) and here's their son, you're the only family he has even though you're barely even related to him, i kinda need you to raise him thanks"

But the craziest part is.... They did raise Luke. And they did it well.

Sure, he might be whiny and immature, and he might be frustrated with his uncle and everything, but...... The kid's a literal teenager in ANH. It's natural to want to leave, but he respects owen enough to make sure they have enough droids for the farm, and he could skip town and just....run away, but he's doesnt. He sticks around and doesn't leave owen in a lurch. I get it. He's the son of a jedi war hero and a badass high-powered senator, stuck on a moisture farm in the middle of the desert. I'd be whiny too, tbh.

And I know it's not essential to the plot, but i really really wish we'd seen more of Luke and Beru interacting. I mean, she was, for all intents and purposes, his mother. She raised him from infancy, like he was her own son in all except blood. She taught him respect and the value of hard work, and she taught him to have a good heart and to see the best in all people. Yes, he gets a lot of that naturally from his parents, but I'm a big proponent of the Nurture side of that age old argument.

But i digress.

I don't think Owen and Beru are the overbearing monster parents the fandom seems to make them out to be sometimes. They legitimately loved Luke and only wanted what was best for him, which from their perspective was a nice simple life on the farm, away from danger, so he didn't turn out like his weird, unstable, literally pure evil dad

And i bet even though they didn't tell him about Anakin at all, i would pretty confidently say that they did tell him about his grandmother Shmi, and how kind and strong she was, and how much she would have loved him

Anyway

I just really have a lot of respect for Owen and Beru, honestly

[mid-nighttiger]

crimes committed by the ESB:FACPOV obi-wan story

catholic guilt (tm)

racism

fundamental misunderstanding of the jedi path

fundamenal misunderstanding of attachment

calling anakin 'dumb'

calling luke 'dumb'

racism 2

blaming the council for anakin's fall

assertion that anakin never asked for special treatment

assertion that the council should’ve treated anakin differently

assertion that the council treated anakin differently (but in the bad way)

jedi order is a cult

qui gon as the One True Jedi

obi wan wants to be ‘the Good Jedi’ (complete with that capitalization) (and the implication that he failed)

being written by a transphobe

jedi traditions bad

jedi order is repressive

jedi order bans alcohol and sex apparently even though obi-wan goes straight for the bar in aotc and lucas explicitly said they were not celibate

obi-wan feels ashamed for thinking about holding siri’s hand, never mind the number of times he’s held satine’s hand or more

yoda as the Worst Jedi / cult leader

anakin as the only reason the empire happened when palpatine is right there

everything would be ~ all better! ~ if anakin and padmé had switched roles

the jedi weren’t genocided, they ‘died out’

obi-wan is the one who thinks all of this

and many more!

[kingofthecon]

Gonna close out of the twelve threads that have been sitting here for about a year old. No idea where my writing partners have gone, but if you guys come back and wanna write we can continue or we can start something new. (I’m probably going to push for something new, lmao.) With that being said be looking out for a starter call at some point in the new future. Going to continue my revamping (If you know, you know), and then I’m going to ask the people who I owe if they’re even still interested in writing with me. I’ve been through a lot and have been on Discord and doing a bit of gaming mostly. I quit one of my jobs (I had three which is a very long story, but I finally got rid of the one that caused the most stress) on top of finally dropping another stressful person in my life. So I’m feeling a lot better, but I’m trying to...synchronize isn’t the right word, but it’s close. I’m trying to get back into things and tumblr is one of them.

With that said I did have to delete my multimuse account once I finally got back into it, but Stanley is of course here to stay and I did pull at least one character from my multi-account here. I don’t think I’ll do much with him. Honestly it was such a spur of the moment things. Then I need to get back into drawing. I haven’t drawn much recently, and I have so many ideas that i need to jot down. I’m going through a reboot. That’s what it is.  Anyway, that’s all for this update. Sorry I keep randomly disappearing. Hopefully I won’t keep disappearing, but for those of you who’ve read my rules you were already prepared for my vanishing act, and I appreciate you being so patient and understanding.

[the-chosen-anakin]

“BECAUSE IN THE END, THE CLONE WARS TO ME, IS ABOUT AHSOKA AND REX” - DAVE FILONI

And that right there is the problem for me. The central focus of The Clone Wars should’ve been Anakin’s transition from his AOTC self to his ROTS self and the developing friendship between him and Obi-Wan, not the Clones (who were established to be little more than subservient drones in the PT) or Snips & Skyguy™.

“BECAUSE IN THE END, THE CLONE WARS TO ME, IS ABOUT AHSOKA AND REX” - DAVE FILONI

[markantonys]

wait so its canon that anakin had a padawan himself? did he become a master? i havent watched the clone wars but im wondering how this fits in

yes! ahsoka tano is his padawan in tcw but bc of various circumstances she didn’t complete her training (i don’t want to spoil you too much just in case you are planning on watching tcw lmao) but it was really the council’s fault and not anakin’s that he didn’t get to finish her training so that makes them refusing to make him a master in ROTS an extra slap in the face (oh so yeah anakin is ahsoka’s master but not an actual Jedi Master™ like how in AOTC obi wan is anakin’s master but he’s still just a jedi knight)

[art0fthec0n]

Repost From —KotC™

From when @eregyrn-falls​ had their Stanford Draw Pile. ♥ I had multiple versions. The sweater design I plan on making a sticker of, but don’t quote me or hold me to that. 

[mid-nighttiger]

one of the best things about tcw is its self-contained arcs, you can pretty much jump around and watch whatever you want and itd still make at least 95% sense. but since im bored and dont wanna do hw (and am trying to prod @jaegrdrifts deeper into the sarlacc pit) i thought id make a list of my fav/most important episodes

tcw in its entirety is 6 seasons, total of 121 episodes, bout 20 min each: bout 40 hours total

the following list of 70 episodes typically fall under one or more of these categories:

important to the storyline/character development

obligatory ‘anakins slowly sliding into the dark side’ episodes

anakin and obi wan (and ahsoka) snarking at each other this is every episode actually who am i kidding

i just like it

this is really just me scrolling through the tcw episodes wikipedia page at midnight writing down the ones i remember were good/important so apologies i mightve forgotten some

this will be long probably im sticking it under the cut

The Movie

uhhhhh you could watch the movie i guess??? you dont really have to, i didnt. its nice it introduces you to a lot of characters really fast (jabba asajj the clones AHSOKA) and like once or twice maybe they reference things that happen here later but its not necessary

Season 1

Episode 5: “Rookies” -- first glimpse at rex & cody!

th emost hilarious arc youre ever gonna watch

Episode 11: “Dooku Captured”

Episode 12: “The Gungan General”

you gotta, you gotta meet hondo. he will grow on you. like a fungus. also anakin and obi wan snarking at dooku who is for once taking obi wans place of being completely Done (TM)

Episode 15: “Trespass” -- this episode introduces you to riyo chuchi who i know is a fan favorite for some but if you dont care about her (why would you not care about her) you dont hafta watch this

Blue Shadow Virus Arc

Episode 17: “Blue Shadow Virus”

Episode 18: “Mystery of a Thousand Moons”

the source of this great photoset

Ryloth Arc

Episode 19: “Storm Over Ryloth”

Episode 20: “Innocents of Ryloth”

Episode 21: “Liberty on Ryloth”

good background info if you wanna watch star wars rebels later, also this arc is referenced in one of the later episodes. also you get to meet waxer boil and numa

Season 2

Episode 5: “Landing at Point Rain” -- GOD THIS EPISODE l e t  m e  t e l l  y o u

actually no you just gotta watch it. this is the second(?) battle of geonosis (remember the first one is during aotc and like 200 jedi died). its actually part of an arc that extends to episode 8 which are fun but not necessary 

the return of obi wans girlfriend

Episode 12: “The Mandalore Plot”

Episode 13: “Voyage of Temptation”

Episode 14: “Duchess of Mandalore”

this is important. satine is a major character the series. also for someone who has a real secret wife anakin sure does love teasing obi wan over his ‘secret girlfriend’

Episode 16: “Cat and Mouse” -- can you believe this happens onscreen? also like. look at them

Episode 17: “Bounty Hunters” -- hondo returns

Zillo Beast Arc

Episode 18: “The Zillo Beast”

Episode 19: “The Zillo Beast Strikes Back”

can you believe senator palpatine may the Force bless his soul was eaten by a giant alien monster? yeah i wish. unfortunately this arc has no impact of any sort on the storyline but its always nice watch our most favorite sith lord darth sidious narrowly avoid being eaten

Boba Arc

Episode 20: “Death Trap”

Episode 21: “R2 Come Home”

Episode 22: “Lethal Trackdown”

@ everyone who wants a boba movie: you already have one. its called tcw

Season 3

Clones!

Episode 1: “Clone Cadets”

Episode 2: “ARC Troopers”

clones.

Episode 3: “Supply Lines” -- i just have a soft spot for ima-gun di and captain keeli okay. also this is a continuation of the ryloth arc

Episode 9: “Hunt for Ziro” -- quinobi is the only ship i really ship. this is actually a S01E22 “Hostage Crisis” and S02E08 “Evil Plans”

the rise of Savage

Episode 12: “Nightsisters”

Episode 13: “Monster”

Episode 14: “Witches of the Mist”

ventress has one of my favorite character arcs through the whole series. also Savage will be important later

Mortis Arc

Episode 15: “Overlords”

Episode 16: “Altar of Mortis”

Episode 17: “Ghosts of Mortis”

we dont really get to see Anakin “Chosen One” Skywalker and all that really means a lot but we do here. this is one of the arcs where i especially wish they went more into the aftereffects butttt-- they cant

Citadel Arc

Episode 18: “The Citadel”

Episode 19: “Counter Attack”

Episode 20: “Citadel Rescue”

Tarkins already a slimy person whos surprised. also what happens to one of the characters here is referenced later

Season 4

Umbara Arc

Episode 7: “Darkness on Umbara”

Episode 8: “The General”

Episode 9: “Plan of Dissent”

Episode 10: “Carnage of Krell”

this arc. t h i s  a r c. this and the next few arcs deal with pretty heavy stuff fair warning

Zygerria Arc

Episode 11: “Kidnapped”

Episode 12: “Slaves of the Republic”

Episode 13: “Escape from Kadavo”

i wish. star wars would ADDRESS SLAVERY as an issue. you got entire armies of effective slaves you have SO MUCH POTENTIAL. heres a little bit of ‘anakin lets his temper get the better of him’

Deception Arc

Episode 15: “Deception”

Episode 16: “Friends and Enemies”

Episode 17: “The Box”

Episode 18: “Crisis on Naboo”

heres more of ‘anakin lets his temper get the better of him.’ so does obi wan a little bit tbh can you believe he stabs a fishman with a fork and threatens to eat him

Ventress Arc

Episode 19: “Massacre”

Episode 20: “Bounty”

shes just trying her best to find her place in this messy world

the Return of Maul

Episode 21: “Brothers”

Episode 22: “Revenge”

LOOK WHOS BACK

Season 5

Episode 1: “Revival” -- ft. our favorite zabrak brothers and one of my favorite lightsaber duels

the origin of Saw Gerrera

Episode 2: “A War on Two Fronts”

Episode 3: “Front Runners”

Episode 4: “The Soft War”

Episode 5: “Tipping Points”

since saw showed up in rogue one

Younglings

Episode 6: “The Gathering”

Episode 7: “A Test of Strength”

Episode 8: “Bound for Rescue”

Episode 9: “A Necessary Bond”

not a necessary watch but the younglings are cute, you get to learn a little more about where lightsabers come from, and hondo puts in an appearance

Episode 12: “Missing in Action” -- part of an arc from S05E10 - S05E13 but honestly its not my favorite arc. but you get to meet someone special in this episode and set some context for a character in sw:r

Lawless Arc

Episode 14: “Eminence”

Episode 15: “Shades of Reason”

Episode 16: “The Lawless”

the culmination of all those previous episodes with Maul and not everybody gets a happy ending

THE FINALE

Episode 17: “Sabotage”

Episode 18: “The Jedi Who Knew Too Much”

Episode 19: “To Catch a Jedi”

Episode 20: “The Wrong Jedi”

are you ready to CRY

Season 6

THINGS COULDVE ENDED SO MUCH BETTER

Episode 1: “The Unknown”

Episode 2: “Conspiracy”

Episode 3: “Fugitive”

Episode 5: “An Old Friend”

ARE YOU READY TO CRY M O R E

Qui-Gon Returns

Episode 11: “Voices”

Episode 12: “Destiny”

Episode 13: “Sacrifice”

you ever wonder how obi wan just straight-up disappears in ANH

Story Reels -- you can find these on the star wars website i believe

The Bad Batch -- go watch the citadel arc first, then come back and meet some special boys

i know im missing some cause were missing commander wolffe and commander thorne and we dont see nearly enough of plo koon and kit fisto and but. well maybe i will go through later and add a few more

[kernsing]

oH this conversation poppin up on my dash now??? saddle up because I have OPINIONS my friends. and I’m very rambly. reading over this I’m not sure if it’s super organized, but u kno what. take it. it’s so long. I apologize.

(disclaimer: agree or disagree, it doesn’t matter. which is the main point of this post anyway)

Everytime people have an argument over whether the Jedi are good/bad/forbid love/don’t forbid love in this fandom I just want to throw my hands into the air because EVERYONE IS RIGHT. You can finagle the dumpsterfire of Star Wars canon into literally anything. You can finagle the canon of anything into literally anything. (And anyway—there is nothing wrong with doing away with whatever canon is entirely, ignoring the source material is Totally Fine, so much of fandom is about transformative fiction, be free. I am digressing.)

First of all, canon itself as a concept is used very vaguely sometimes. There’s canon meaning ‘source material’ and then there’s canon meaning ‘this is what the author said this meant’ and then there’s ‘this is what the author meant but eh it looks a bit funky when you frame it from this perspective’ whether ‘this perspective’ is a villainized character’s or a sorta official movie poster’s or some tie in novel’s or some famous credentialed literary commentator’s or your own. What there isn’t is canon meaning ‘the One Real True™ interpretation of what a story means’ because canon as ‘what does this story mean’ (as opposed to canon as simply ‘fact level what happened what did this character say,’ which is often tied together with the ‘what does it mean’ part) is an inherently subjective thing.

Now for Star Wars. Canon* is super vague about the Jedi Order and you can justify anything about them. Space cult? Canon. Beacon of goodness and hope? Canon. Somewhere in between? Canon.

* Here meaning just movies. But like. Star Wars canon otherwise is. Super messy on the Jedi. With the films and the Word of God and extra material and whatnot. My take on that: Lucas is pretty explicitly pro-Jedi as mentioned above (so. I guess I’d have to disagree with OP on ‘the movies are supposed to cast the Jedi in a bad light’ bc I read ‘this fictional thing is supposed to do this’ as a matter of author intention and author intention is pro-Jedi, but whether the movies actually do cast the Jedi in a bad light is up to personal interpretation is what I’m saying); there’s That Movie Poster which has already been posted in this thread which is unambiguous in its phrasing about love; there’s the novels which are a Hot Mess bc so many different authors and all their stuff on the Jedi; sometimes I hear about Baby Ludi which sounds pretty damning on the Jedi but I have no honest idea where that comes from except… some old Internet page???; there’s the ‘Jedi code’ (you know, the ‘there is no emotion…’ thing OR the ‘emotion yet peace’ thing) that shows up randomly in extra material; then there’s the movies themselves which give such mixed signals especially AOTC what are you trying to do really; god SW canon is such a mess can we accept that already. Look at all those different interpretations of the Jedi. Look at ‘em and remember the movies came first and in some way inspired all of them.

There are just so many. Simple facts that canon leaves up to interpretation, which can all influence your view of the Jedi immensely. e.g.: is Tatooine part of the Republic (remember: omitting Word Of God)? How much can the Jedi learn about and interact with their home cultures? How much can Jedi know about their original families? Are the Jedi Corps a thing, can the Jedi ever be kicked out of the Order for something less than a crime? How much jurisdiction does the Senate have over the Jedi? How much of the Jedi’s stuff (Temple, etc.) is public property, how much are they funded publicly? How much does Force sensitivity affect a being’s development and need for attachment (used here referring to infant attachment theory)? Can the Order take a youngling without the parents’ permission? What is the Jedi’s take on the Dark Side, are Sith unredeemable because of Force Theology stuff dictating Once You Fall Forever You Are Tainted And Bad scrupulosity type shit, or is it because once you start mass murdering people you are forever accountable for your actions? (And. I had to cut out some part of this post where I said this because it’s getting so long but: both answers are good stories because ‘good story’ is such a subjective thing.) (edit: posted that stuff here.)

And. There will be arguments and counterarguments and counterarguments because. Everything is justifiable. e.g. How some Jedi dress is very in line with their homeworld cultures, doesn’t that mean that the Jedi do not forbid learning about their home cultures? You could say: maybe that’s just a very superficial thing they allow, and there is no real substantial learning. Tatooine does not accept Republic currency, how could it be part of the Republic? Say: the Republic literally does not care it’s overrun by Hutts bc political apathy and the Republic sucks, and I have to say that’s a fair reading of the Republic. And then there's Anakin's line in AOTC about how compassion is central to the life of the Jedi, and how compassion = unconditional love; it's super easy to read that as 'of course the Jedi don't forbid love, Anakin says that right there, if the Jedi explicitly forbade love he would not say that' (which is how I currently parse it as). But you could also say: this is Anakin and Padmé in a private moment, Anakin says something like "according to me..." and this could be cery unorthodox, the Jedi might not explicitly forbid love but still frown on that line of thinking, or perhaps what the Jedi call 'unconditional love' is unrecognizable as what we call love (which is a thought I see on another reply in this post). On the flip side, Anakin not being able to marry Padmé is such a major plot point of AOTC, of course the Jedi forbid romantic love/marriage. Say: they specify how it’s between a Jedi and a Senator, perhaps only Jedi-politician marriages are forbidden because conflict of interest. (Certainly an interesting pro-Jedi viewpoint to explore, but I don’t hold it in my headcanon canon.)

Honestly, how canon is it that Jedi have literally No Contact At All with original families? Maybe I am forgetting a line in the movies that says No, Not Even Minimal Contact, or is it all because Anakin doesn’t know anything about his mom during AOTC, because then: everything is justifiable, what if that’s only an Anakin thing because his mom is enslaved on a non-Republic world, thereby complicating the prospect of contact?

Even then: there are counterarguments to everything. Some people are saying that there is no justifiable reason why Jedi would cut ties with their original families; recently I read some very interesting meta about how being associated with the Jedi could place their original families in a lot of danger from the wrong people so. Everything is justifiable because canon is So Vague.

And because of that, because the questions of what Jedi attitudes and practices are re original families, emotions, close affective relationships, even marriage can be answered in so many varied ways and still be movie canon compliant, of course people are going to have wildly different readings on what canon is re what Jedi think of attachment and love.

Anyway. Everyone is right. Thanks for listening.

look, the Jedi code that forbids love doesn’t just forbid possessive love or selfish love. It forbids love, period. It’s an important plot point, and while it casts the Jedi in a pretty bad light, it’s actually supposed to do that. Non-film media that tried to retconn that love is allowed and non-attachment is actually just healthy boundaries misses the point in order to produce a less-nuanced story where the Jedi order is unambiguously heroic.