#/not even parasocial im just fascinated

[fruitsofhell]

I am amazed by so much about Hazbin Hotel now that I'm finally, FINALLY watching it. There's so much to comment on but I have GOT to get this out of the way that has been distracting me going into the final episode. I need you to know that I'm like grimacing in a mix of pain and amusement rn. I feel like a teacher about to tell a student their essay earned the most entertaining F I've ever seen.

I want to do a little case study in Vivziepop's design ethos in the Cannibal Town bit y'know. I don't have the steam to write a full essay right here but I will try to get into this and how it relates to something that so fascinates me about her art. I was a fan of Vivziepop back in like 2014 when she first gained some notoriety in the animation community from her Die Young short and I watched nearly every piece of her old art content where she expressed her character designs and story ideas. I was really invested in them when I was younger, I thought and still do think her designs and ideas are very evocative in a good way, but which have slowly unraveled with time and scrutiny in all respects.

In her show... there's a district in hell run by cannibals, and the WHOLE gag of them is that instead of being your usual sort of racist stereotype they're a kitschy little victorian looking district who still sing about loving consuming flesh and blood and all that. See, this was evocative IN 2014, but it's not 2014. Which is not really interesting to say in itself because the show is utterly drowning in early 2010s Hot Topic-ass design sensibilities that I will probably talk about some other time, what I'm really getting at is the hypothetical thought process behind this.

Vivzie is a lover of all things impish and vintage, so of course in hell she thinks there should be a place full of cannibals who go beyond the usual stereotypes. And in her mind she's imagining how evocative the idea of smiling genteel demons running around eating human fingers is and goes with it. And a plus for her, it skirts around the racialized baggage attached to the taboo of cannibalism, maybe she even thinks its anti-racist to spin things like this. But like. It really really just stops there.

Hazbin Hotel wants to use its framing of heaven and hell to make a social commentary on morality obviously, and in the way its doing it it also is creating a sort of statement on class. There is this idea of moral meritocracy that angels are exploiting to keep themselves and those humans they like above those they dislike for arbitrary reasons, and just in the language - written and visual - of how heaven and hell are distinguished you see this slums vs metropolis thing going on. But I mean, someone else can probably tell you about how busted it is so I won't get into it, I'll just say that comparing hell to any sort of metaphor for a ghetto where disadvantaged and flawed people are grouped together unsafely looks bad for Vivzie lol.

This is where I come back to Cannibal Town which is so so so SO obviously a chance to make the most blunt-obvious social commentary on human exploitation that Vivzie just DOESN'T cause she finds people in victorian pristine garb talking about eating flesh funny and that is the full extent of her conversation on these ideas together. There's really really nothing else it seems that Vivziepop feels like saying about a kitschy upper-middle class town of people who eat other people other than isnt it funny when upper-middle class people want to eat others. And it does boggle my mind when so much other talk of exploitation, abuse, and class stratification is so laid bare on the table of this show.

In design and narrative this show really likes to touch on these deep but kinda basic tenets of social commentary but keeps doing the 2014 Hot Topic reversal of motifs and then just leaves that there like its something in itself. MMMaybe we could be doing more to say something about how when a bunch of people are arbitrarily thrown together in a lawless area under very broad assumption of moral degeneracy some seek to wield powers over others by reinforcing their simultaneous dehumanization. And how then those slumlords try to sell scraps of privilege to enrich themselves and stuff and how bad that is.

Like we kinda do sometimes, but then you have Cannibal Town which could have so fucking obviously been about liiiike??? IDK, the overlord of the area is someone who takes peoples souls and then gives them an insatiable urge to consume both physically and material goods that is symbolized through cannibalism and exploitation of other demons so that they are further reliant on the overlord??? ANd they all sit in their little village thinking theyre above others because they keep everything so orderly only by running themselves on the exploitation and consumption of other human resources. I don't even fucking know man but I just know that the Cannibal Town in the show is nothing but a joke and wank session for Vivziepop's historical fashion fetish and it drives me up the wall.

I want to be really invested in the politics of this world but this Vivziepop motherfucker just wants to create things like the town of white middle-class victorian cannibals for the lolz.

[bitchslapblastoids]

Prompted by your post about dnp inviting audience interaction: it /is/ really brave, and so interesting! I haven't been watching them for long at all and one of the biggest things that just drew me in and deeply fascinated me about them is how so much of their work (not just on stage) is in some way a conversation/interaction with their audience and the more you watch the more you notice it. No wonder its easy to be parasocial about them and about the Phandom itself!

To me, at least, they seem to be the sort of performers/creators that need a relatively high level of audience interaction in order to be inspired or for their work to feel meaningful. Like, im absolutely sure they could also create things without this close relationship with their audience but it seems to be what their naturally drawn towards? Obviously the problem has been in maintaining boundaries within that but it seems like that's going better now than at some points in the past, which makes me really happy for everyone!

Sorry about the long yap, this is so interesting to me and I just needed to express it a little

(original post referenced) yes!!! i love this!!! so beautifully worded! no need to apologize at all - i am in such hearty agreement and actually think about this so often. i think the engagement with their audience is their superpower, and it runs so deep. what was one of dan's favorite things about phil before he met him? phil's interactive adventure videos, in which he was creating an interactive experience for his viewers.

when they film pinof1 together, what are they doing? they're answering an audience-submitted q&a. the audience interaction is literally baked into their foundation! <3

2010, dan's uni dorm. what's displayed behind him on his wall? art and letters sent to him by viewers. he films danmail vids where he opens and reacts to said art and letters and personally thanks the senders.

for years and years and years, what's at the end of every phil video? fanart! draw phil naked! (in retrospect literally so weird lol but shhh)

the ongoing avalanche of vyous and younows and tumblr reblogs/follows and responding to yt comments and retweets and and and. so much interaction. the videos directly engaging with twitter and tumblr creations. they see us, they know us, they get us.

their first book? included a double-page spread with dozens of pieces of phanart.

every single one of their tours has multiple essential audience interaction components, and even more brilliantly, with multiple different access points that are perfectly calibrated to their audience. too shy to speak up? send in a submission ahead of time. want to be a part of the masses? shout something out during the audience participation segments! and there's always the likelihood that they'll include fanart in the show itself, casually mention an actual actively popular fic, throw in an ancient phwedding manip, or just build whole segments of the show around our tropes and the world that we created with them. all of that keeps things exciting and engaging on stage, bc you never know exactly what's going to come next. but it also keeps their audience feeling seen, valued, and like co-creators in a way.

When you look at the other britcrew and big yters from the 2010s, they simply weren't generating that ongoing, authentic conversation with their audiences. their approach followed the simple format of: i post, you watch. and then it became: i post, you watch, then i try and sell you something while i call you my 'community' because you are all watching me and sometimes you talk to one another in the comments. but it's not like zalfie or joe and casper etc. were chiming in on the convos too, or at least not in any meaningful way. it wasn't a community in the same way.

dan and phil truly built community. i think communities require mutual exchange, communication, a sense of value and worth, commonly agreed upon truths, shared experiences, touchstones of connection, and leaders who have integrity. i know this is all starting to sound a little lofty, but i really do think dan and phil are good humans who have worked hard to wield their power and influence responsibly and compassionately. they set the tone for us, constructed this world, paid attention to what landed for us, how we responded to things, everything that we were up to in response to what they were up to. they listened. they made us feel seen and celebrated and appreciated, and in turn we continued to celebrate them. they created weird inside jokes, we adopted them, then we all shared the weird inside jokes. they existed, we created our own language and lore and encyclopedia in response, and now there's a whole stage show about it.

that's how you get people sticking around for 15 years. that's how you get people to actually want to spend money on you. and yeah, some more boundaries at times couldn't have hurt. they fostered a sense of proximity and entitlement that obviously put them in harm's way. but i'd say ultimately what they've manage to do has been a net good for them and a tremendous success.

you raised such a good point that it seems to be what they are naturally drawn towards. i think it's because they, too, were fangirls. phil was writing buffy fic. dan was running a lost wiki. they both understood the power of online fan community before they were the titans of their own. they get it, they get us <3

[morganbritton132]

i wonder how steve’s neurological issues and eddie’s career interact. like obviously metal music is not gonna work with seizures and migraines, so im wondering if steve ever feels like hes not doing enough, like he’s a bad partner who doesn’t support eddie’s passion.. Plus i imagine the overprotective fans who notice steve is never at any concerts and how eddie keeps joking about how steve despises metal music, leading them to go on a whole tirade about how eddie deserves better yadayadayada ☹️

I have been staring at this prompt since you sent it, trying to articulate what I want to say because it’s so good. I think it really opens up the door to talk about parasocial relationships and fans who overstep, which I find endlessly fascinating.

Fans notice things.

They notice things and they think that they knows things, and then they tweet about it. They make YouTube videos and TikToks, and they post to their Instagram stories. Eventually articles are written about it and those articles make it into the Facebook algorithm and then mixed into Steve’s timeline.

So, he sees it.

A fan posts about how there are virtually no videos of Steve at award shows where Corroded Coffin had been nominated. They say that he was uninterested or not supportive, but not that Steve was just terrified of Eddie being outed and his career ending. Being in a queer relationship in the nineties could destroy your career and Steve never wanted to do anything that would jeopardize the band’s success.

Even after Eddie came out publicly, his record label’s PR team told them not to be seen being intimate with each other. They could walk side by side, but they couldn’t hold hands. They could hug goodbye but not kiss. It wasn’t just Eddie’s career. What do you think is going to happen when parents find out a homosexual was teaching their children?

A fan tweets about how Steve is never at Corroded Coffin’s concerts and when he is, he just hangs out backstage. Fans quote tweet it talking about how Steve doesn’t give a shit about the music, but say nothing about the noise and the lights that cause him to have migraines. They say nothing about how terrifying the thought of having a seizure in a moshpit is.

And it’s not just that.

It’s not just that everybody thinks that he’s an unsupportive husband or that he hates Eddie’s music.

Eddie live-streams in the car on his way to pick Steve up from work, spends the entire time talking about how he’s going to take him on a date. When Steve gets in the car, he turns Eddie’s music down. That’s a TikTok about how Steve refuses to show any interest in Eddie’s hobbies. Eddie tells him what he wants to do and Steve says, “Not today.”

That’s a YouTube video about how Eddie is a doting husband and Steve is an ungrateful bitch, and not that Steve had a seizure at lunch and a migraine pressing against the back of his eyes. It says nothing about how Eddie knows this, Eddie’s used to this. This is how it is with head trauma, some things falls through and they pick them up when they can.

None of these fans know anything and it ends up in the ads and the articles that Steve sees on Facebook, and it makes him feel like shit. It’s everything that Steve was trying to avoid when he told Eddie to break up with him in ’87.

He told Eddie then that all this shit in his head was only going to get worse and it was just going to hold him back when the band was just taking off, and Eddie had refused to accept that.

He refuses to accept it now and tells Steve that those articles don’t matter. They’re written by morons that don’t know shit, but it doesn’t matter. It’s like the whole world is looking at them and telling him that Steve is shit at loving Eddie when it’s the only thing he thought that he got right.

[milfygerard]

I also think about the fact she changed her entire tour to roast her other exe from last year. People like to pretend didn't happen but highkey inspired 80% of TTPD, like she had thoughts about that man + situation, sometimes conflicting (TTPD, Fresh, Daddy, Black Dog), sometimes tender(COCOSOM, BD, I, Peter, TTPD, LOML) sometimes what iffing too close to the sun. (GAS, COCOSOM), sometimes angry (Smallest, Fix). Everyone loves to pretend Matty didn't happen even after TTPD came out and peope are still wishing TS12 comes soon so we can forget that little situation (ship). It's funny for me to watch.

I'm not in real swiftie circles so idk how the wider fandom treats him, but ive seen other blogs talk about this a little. Honestly i find the phenomenon fascinating as much as frustrating, its the way that fandoms this huge surrounding one person have to work to maintain any sort of structure, ignoring topics that they find too complicated or that could really destabilize their conception of who the subject Is when they have such a strongly held image that they base their entire consumptive opinions around. Its hard to really idolize someone while also treating them as complicated people with real flaws or poor decisions and so its easier to just make those disappear in your brain though that never really works, absence of something only increases its presence and all that

Also I'd argue that outside of down bad and maybe smallest man, the TTPD section was not aimed at matty but primarily at her audience. TTPD is a very rosy and loving look back on taylors career and goes out of its way to honor fans. It is overwhelmingly positive and kind towards us before TTPD, but adding that album to eras...complicates things. Choosing the songs she did (bdilh, waolom, icdiwabh, even smallest man could tie into this) brings a new level of confrontational friction with the narrative and performance of eras. We don't just have long live and its you and me thats my whole world, its also you caged me and called me crazy and its im having his baby no im not but you should see your faces and all the pieces of me shattered as the crowd was screaming more WITH the crowd present doing exactly that with fervour. Our relationship is brought into question and grows complicated and dark, parts of the ttpd section feel almost unsettling to watch. After sitting with it for awhile i feel like the ttpd section kind of completed eras and turned it into something closer to a strange performance art of this bizarre mutual parasocial relationship we all hold with taylor and maybe even became my favorite section??? (or it wouldve been if she didnt Have to add fortnight which just seems so dull live, its really not made for that environment)

[d3athmaskd1v1n3]

hello!! im kinda shy to request something but uhh

is it possible for you to write a yandere riddler x (preferably male) reader who is also a yandere?? like theyre both obsessed with eachother lowkey

Sorry for taking so long to get to this request, I've been in a rut lately. I'm so thankful for all the requests by the way. I'm happy that there's people actually reading my stuff :)

Yandere! Riddler x Yandere! Male Reader

(CW: Yandere shit. You know the drill. Edward breaks into your house.)

To find two people who are alike isn't as uncommon as it seems. Although it is true that every individual is unique, there are many overlaps and similarities than you may be led to believe.

But when it comes to the case of Edward Nygma and (Y/N) (L/N), that's when it gets strange. If souls exist, then the souls of those two men are forged from the same stuff.

It all started with a headline in the newspaper. Your attention was immediately drawn to another story about your favorite criminal. While most of Gotham's residents fear the many rogues that wreak havoc on the city, you find morbid curiosity in all the chaos. But your favorite criminal isn't exactly the chaotic type. He's intelligent. Clever. Calculated. In your mind, he's a step above the rest.

But you were tired of just reading about the man. You want to know him as a person! Call it parasocial, weird or obsessive, but you can't stop thinking about him. You decided to do some research so you can find a way to talk to him, with the same zeal and enthusiasm a fan would have for their idol.

When Edward received a message from an unknown sender, he was, quite honestly, shocked. He immediately felt alarmed. He stared at the computer monitor, reading over the message multiple times, analyzing every word.

Hello Edward!

I've been keeping a close eye on you. Do not be alarmed, I swear I have no intention to hand you in.

I'm going to get straight to the point, I like what you do. I am fascinated by you. I want to be involved in your life. Is that coming off too strong? Lol

Anyways, write me back. Please. It'd mean a lot to me.

Sincerely, (Y/N) (L/N)

(PS: Green suits you. It brings out your eyes.)

... Did a mere civilian really find a way to hack into his systems? Impossible. He made damn sure nobody could penetrate the network's defenses!

And is this man seriously flirting with him?

Just who is this guy?

Who is this guy...?

He didn't have to do much work to dig up some info on you. Edward just had to trace your IP address. Boom. Now he has a good idea of your location.

He figured you weren't actually dumb enough to not hide your location. He has a feeling you want him to find you. He was proven correct when he arrived at your doorstep, noticing you left the door unlocked.

He took a step inside, taking a look around.

"Edward, you're here!"

He meets your gaze, studying you before he speaks.

"You're the one who sent that message, yes?"He spoke slowly. His usual cocky demeanor was absent, replaced with reluctance and caution.

Ah... did you make him uncomfortable?

"Sorry if I creeped you out or something. That was not my intention." You apologize.

After a couple more seconds of gauging the situation, he lets out a sigh, his body visibly relaxing. You're not a threat, he decided.

"If I may, Mr. (L/N)..." he asked, his voice returning to that cocky tone you're so used to hearing. "... how did you do it? How did you hack into my network?"

"I learned from the best, you could say." You beam, looking like the cat who caught the canary.

Damn, that smile is infectious, Edward couldn't help but smile in turn.

"You know, Edward... I like you because I see you as an intellectual match. It's hard to find somebody who stimulates me intellectually, you know?"

Edward would usually scoff at somebody even implying they're anywhere near his level, but something about you endeared him... a sense of familiarity.

Your desire to prove yourself, to prove how smart you are is very familiar to him. Being able to relate to another person felt oddly nice, and he knew right off the bat he wanted to keep you around.

Oh, he knew he was going to like you. You were a kindred spirit, after all...

(Author's note: I know this one is a bit awkward. I'm sorry. Like I said I have been in a rut. My sleep schedule is also a bit whack since I'm waiting for the pharmacy to refill my meds. Excuses aside, I'll still try my best to get the other two requests done.)

[kaleidosouls]

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been watching creepcast more or less since the first/second episode and after latest i keep wanting to talk to ppl abt my thoughts and im tired of trying to engage with other youtube comments / i dont wanna keep bothering my spouse with this plus id want to talk to other ppl who are viewers but dhkdhfk im gonna rant behind the cut; tw animal death/violence, child abuse

gonna rant assuming readers is also a viewer cause too tired to explain, sorry. this is just “stuff id want to chat with fellow fans of the poscast but i dont have friends who watch it, and the youtube comments suck for the most part and id rather be turned inside out than login to reddit”, like i did end up using rhe comment section way toomuch already, jm tired and its like 3% normal ppl and 97% dicks and assholes with bully disorder

like it was a big enlightening to just properly label things last night at last and process the feelings and situation. this is jsut a podcast with isaiah bullying his cohost hunter (“as a joke”) and the fans at large are people who enjoying bullying snd find it funny, and try to bully commenters who disrupt their “fun”, trting to discret and demean them as friendless parasocial losers for not playing along the theater of mockery and treating it as socially acceptable.

like its one thing to tease between friends and make dark jokes, its another thing to repeatedly, insistently, laugh at your friend for being traumatized as a child by violent animal death? like. its like i get that initially he was just really baffled at the event like haha oh my god did that happened thats so fucked up (which is annoyingly normie in its own way like yeah dude, none of us have control over fucked up shit happening to us as children, like he makes such a spectacle about it like its this earth shattering thing). like its tragic and a big deal but like wrt trauma its usually safe to be on the level that the person with the trauma is setting, if theyre talkinf about it really intensely it makes sense to match up to that tone or lower. instead hunter is trting to move on while isaiah is just obsessed fascinated with it like its fiction almsot. idk just . uggghhhhhhh

i could kust make a collage fo commwnts that made me like lose hope for humanity each time but i dontw anna dwell on annoying bullshit and commit it more to memory. like people are jusr… like there is some dark humor inherent to like calljng your mom as an adult on your show to have her back you up only for it to turn out it was way worse, but like the way isaiah kept laughing about it for so long.. like hecan laugh and joke like that at his Own traumas if he has them. just. idk. tgisn podcast like just. ugh its making me irritated tot hink abt explaining whats happening in it to people like go watch it with adblock on, im gonnaskip explainjng more and jsut say some feelings to the void that id rather like scream at someone about. i was gonna say scream at assholes in the commmebts but i actually want their internet connection destroted and for them to be forced to dismantle their phones and pcs and set them on fire so they can never speak again.

isaiah is coming off like such a monster. like, “””as a joke””” acting like an asshole is still acting like an asshole, i dont care anymore that hes actually probably rly well intentioned and ncie bc he jsut needs to stop being fucking rancid and a shitty cohost and friend. an honestly i cant even believe the “hes actually nice” shit anymore. starting tj feel hes been an ashsole all along and just pretends to be a good guy. like he takes too much joy out of excessive bullying to be a good person. like genuine just bullying, with no consequences. ppl are like “oh hunters fine with it bc hes putting up with it” like as if every single person alive Never has to put up and laugh along shit that bothers them. specially on what is essentially their Job. hunter barely appears comfortable and he does not dish back nearly as viciously- and we jnow hes capable of rly dark humor and banter too, on his own channel tje vibe is completely different but he has none or that edge with isaiah. while isaiah is literally like i wnan dox you please fans m*lest hunter in the meet and greet, i want this guy dead; isaiah literlaly makea such a huge deal every time hunter had a disagreeing opinion irs clear hes started to just not weight in when he doesnt like something, itd be one thing to make these super intense mean comments if hunter did them back but every time isaiah would not take or tolerate it when it was towards himself,; and honestly all of the stuff before had been like accumulating to be pretty bad but rhe latest ep with the dog story eallyi guess like crosses a line of like, this is just genuinely wrong and i dont care how mcuh the comments say its ‘parasocial’to have basic human empathy! youre watchint a guy talk abt having the family dog shot in the back of the head in front of him by his grandfather, only to then find out on air feom his mother the shooting had been intentional and his grandfatehr was actuallt a monster instead of a disabled man traumatizinf you by accident. like the ironic tragedy of him calling his mom to back him up on that ‘its not a big deal’ only for her to contradict him is funny on a cosmic sense, but like it is iust. not that funny dude. like isaiah kept bursting into laughter just thinking about it. oh is it too absurd for you to take seriously? do yoh just not give a fuck about how tour friend might feel? dude didnt even fucking ask. he didnt eveb show a sliver of care , sympathy empathy anything. he literally says “ill never let you live this down”. LIVE WHAT DOWN???? having his grandfather intentionally shoot his dog in front of him as a 7 year old child? like what the actual fuck is wrong with him??!! have like even a shred of respect for your cohost, like its all ‘as a joke’ but if you consistently ‘as a joke’ act like a cruel manipulative bullying person, im just gonna choose to believe youre actually just that person using “humor” as a shield to excuse your behavior.

like wtf. i was actually a fan of isaiahs chanel first and i didnt rly vibe with hunter that much and i wouldnt have expected, bc i woildnt enjoy watching an asshole, that isaiah wouldve turned out to be such a self centered horrible person. like its all funny TO HIM, i dont get the sense its enjoyable at all to be in that room when isaiah is getting all giddy and having a kick out of treating hunter like a punching back. yeah he probably doesnt mean to be actually hurtful but it doesnt look like the thought even crosses his satan spawn eyes that someone could have a different reaction than the one he was intends there to be. like i dont know hunter and idk if id even like him if i talked to him in person but it sucks qnr is horrible to watch anyone be treated that way consistently. like i wish creepcaet juet actually ended or isaiah learned how to not be shitty. i dont care if its not in his nature to not be awful he should just try to pretend to be a decent person for once. like i feel bad for hunter becuase it comes across like hes more stuck in the podcast than enjoying it and i empathise with struggling to leave “friends” who treat you like shit. and its like work too, i have no idea how much of a monetary and reputation loss it would be to leave. ppl are like “theyre adults they surely worked within themselves” yeah bc no adult ever has struggled or been stuck in a situation thats hard to get out of. honestly like yeah this is just a shitty podcast with shitty fans who just enjoy watching a bigger guy get bullied for no reason because they are probably mostly awful bullies in their own lives too hurting the people around them and i dont need to convern myself over what people who get a kick out of hurting others think.

i guess obligatory like. insane and unwarranted comment to the hosts bc no one is readingnthis let alone either of them but its like what if they read it and like felt x or y way in reaction. maube writing this will give me some semblance of peace

@ hunter: you seem cool and youre a really talented artist and naturally funny on camera/audio. i relate to having memories from childhood warped like that, and im sure/i would imagine that was the story told because it was far from the actual worst one. i think you deserve to respect yourself more, im sure being bullied is no skin of your back, im fat and ive been derided bc of it my whole life, from since i was 70kg and im 100kg now. its smth you get used to and it feels like not a big deal but on a fundamental level i thibk everyone deserves to respect themselves at least enough to not let friends treat you like shit to this extent. like i know banter and teasing is normal, butlike. its so excessive dude. it comes across like youre just stuck there and idk your financials and maybe you coulr be, ive heard of stories like that wrt youtube projects, and subversive animations arent loved by youtube’s revenue. heavy condolences if this turns out to be the case and hoping things can change. im sure it would be hard to quit anyway bc ppl would make such a big deal abt it. but if you are free to leave at anytime and you have freedom and are safe with isaiah,thank god thats great, get the FUCK out of there or get isaiah to stop treatiny you like shit cause you deserve better. if somehow you iust love beint berated like that i guess like each to his own too, i just hope youre doing ok juwt oj the basis of beint a fellow human being who appears to be in a legitimately shitty situation. if you are ajd im insane, thats fine too, id rather be insane than someone be suffering.

sigh

@ isaiah: i really liked your youtube vids. you seemed like a decent enougu guy. ofc like i dont actualyl Know either of tou, injust am human and relating on basic emotional levels based on the behavior you choose to display online. man. what the hell is wrong with you? if i expected you to actually read this i would be more polite but i dont expect a single soul to read this, really. like, man… i want to believe theres capacity of good and kindness in every person so surely you must have it, and if you do.. why are you acting like that. is being mean That funny? i love dark humor but ive never taken joy out of actively bullying people so i cant really relate but like, surely you can find otuer ways to have fun with your friend? im sure you think its all fine bc hunter wont throw a tantrum like you do but some people are actually way more inwards with their emotions and like you coild try to be a little more interested in how someone else feels when you bully them. “as a joke”. like maybe its not as funny as you think itnis, or they migut not be enjoying it like you do. i know its hard to stop when you want to talk but please try to stop interrupting hunter repeatedly after you clewrly mustve heard him adter the call delay? honestly, i thought you were a fine guy but now its like maybe youre just on a power trip, havint someone hostage to validate your opinions on horror and to bully for fun who wont talk back to you in a way thats actually challenging. since you love the sounf of your own voice so much you could do a solo podcast, you dont need hunter to be there as a punching bag in order to make a podcast. if you lvoe and care about hunter as a friend sincerely and iust have been totally by accident actint like a major piece of shit, id like want to hope for you to improve as a person in how you act and id want to believe thats very possible, but episode after episode its just.. like i dont give a shit abt dark mean humor i dont care if you call us in the audience pieces of shit or freaks or whatever, we’re not there talking to you, but hunter Is hearing what youre saying and is actually there.like id say for a christian you are extremely cruel but that is just ao on brand for open christians to behave that way that i honestly wanted to believe you would subvert that expectation, but it seems i was wrong. you know like i dont get this being mean as a joke thinf and neber have, i would say if hunter died tomorrow would you not have rather spent time with him in a positive way where he was loved instead of berated, but youd most likely “joke” that youre glad hes dead and that you didnt bully him enough. im not christian and i dont believe in heaven or hell but i know for you that youre most likely not seeing the pearly gates until you learn to pretend to be a good person to your friends. its probably not even smth you genuinely want to do or care to do but you could make that sacrifice of being nicer so the world is a better place while it has to have you here.

big sigh this isjsut hggggghhhhhh like a shame bc i love horror and i had enjoyed isaiahs youtube vids but , man this is such a disappointment. obviously i dont rly wana watch the podcast anymore butni like hunter reading and his voice and i would just hope for the best for him going forward, and the insane in my brain is like i gotta check it out maybe isaiah apologizes and acts like normal and nice without being rancid for once. even tho i know that wont be true bc it hasnt been for weeks since i started watching, i guess ill tune in for the next and if he foesnt shape up i’ll quit it. find a diff horror podcast or smth. makes me sad imagining hunter stuck in there. kike idk if hes even a good person like hes edgy on his own channel too but in general like he comes across like isaiah used to , lile someone who just seems fine and i havent heard anything saying theres smth horribly wrong with him. just on a basic human level it sucks to see people struggle and suffer. speciallt when its situations i relate and have been to. its been at least (uhh math…) damn 10 years or smth since an event that really stuck with me, where i was kust telling soem school friend abt my life at home bc we were just talking, and i relayed one of the ways my parents would beat me and how i was so scary, and she burst our cackling in my face. its a feeling that took a long time to stop having it sting in my head. she wasnt intending to laugh At me, or bc she thought beating children was genuinely good or funny, but to her the situation was so absurd it was funny. i can understand that on a detached level like if it wasnt real there would be some comedy timing to it. but instead i iust felt like a joke. like i was stupid, like it was this really funny ass thing, and i tried to play along, and it was like the fear trauma and pain that resulted from those events was a joke too. like i was stupid for having my life warped ny the abuse and it affecting me, because it was just so absurd and funny! like damn, i shouldve been abused as a child in a less absurd and funny way so people wouldnt mock me to my face about it. i guess i deserve it and its natural to be treated this way. until i met someoje who actually respected and gave a fuck about me and wouldnt make me feel that way i thoight it was normal and like i was fine with it too. i used to get bullied communally by my entire classroom for half of middle school and i thought those people were called friends too because id never been treated any better by anyone.

hgggghj i think its helped a bit to get it off my chest, maybe. man this sucks. i wish people would iust be nicer to eachother. life is so short, and some people cant even have the courtesy to not be tormented by people they call friends

[nereidprinc3ss]

hiii!! did you see that matthew met up with his ex (and a few friends) for lunch a couple days ago? not trying to be weirdly parasocial about it because that is a grown man that can do whatever he wants but my twitter tl is going CRAAZYY!! apparently ali michael is like questionable?? i just wanted to know if you had heard/had any takes on it (or her)?

anytime i’ve read any of your responses (even about totally mundane things) im like, wow! suddenly this is now interesting to me. have you ever seen people tell authors they would read their grocery list? that’s like me (with your writing too) but also just the way you respond to things…idk if it’s your vocabulary or syntax or diction but SOMETHING just makes your responses really interesting even if it’s not necessarily a fresh perspective? (i sound like such an insane creep, i hope this makes sense)

ANYWAY!! that’s why i wanted to know if you had any thoughts. totally okay if not though, actually probably normal if you don’t have thoughts about that. like who is keeping up with a celebrity going out for lunch with his ex from ten years ago??…definitely not me

i had not seen that!! unfortunately i too am weird and parasocial about him even though i really don’t want to be!!! but that’s so interesting, i thought they ended on not the best terms because she just kind of randomly dumped him after three years so i really wanna know what their relationship is like now and i hate myself for that😭😭 like i really don’t wanna care but i DOOOO yk?? LIKE I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT THEIR CONVERSATIONS ARE LIKE. I NEED ACCESS TO THEIR TEXT CONVERSATIONS GOING BACK TO 2012 RIGHT NOW!!!

also yes ali michael as i’ve heard is questionable but i think everyone in the world is questionable and it’s not like she’s going around stealing candy from babies or committing war crimes LOL like honestly there are worse people in the world yk im not too stressed abt her malevolence

anyway you do NOT sound like an insane creep you sound like you want me to fall in love with you and marry you in a small intimate ceremony and then move to a small house in new england with me where we will raise our family!!! ive never been so flattered so thank you ily 🫶🫶🫶🫶!!!!!!! (And thank u for delivering this tea to me im unfortunately fascinated and entranced by this dumb man and his dumb life)

[hadesoftheladies]

so i was reading a paper that someone wrote on a study they did on BL/yaoi fans and fandom (i didn't know a lot about it until like . . . this year), and it had me thinking. some years ago i made an observation on female obsession with gay romances in popular entertainment where I said that I didn't think fans were all interacting with this content from a fetishistic perspective, as much as fetishism and homophobia were common.

as much as there have been straight men that fetishize lesbian relationships, i also thought that perhaps bisexual or straight women's interaction with BL could be a bit more nuanced than entitlement to gay men and their experiences. i thought that there was an element of detachment that gay romances gave women, where men were humanized and female characters did not have the burden of humanizing him. it was an avenue where women and girls could enjoy their attraction to men or what they loved about men without being visible, without any romantic or sexual demands being put on them. it was a way to explore not only their own sexualities, but also their weird (in regard to the predator-prey situation) oftentimes tragic attraction to men. it was a projection of an ideal relationship with a man, one based on true equality in an especially semantic sense.

i think some of these fascinations can be classified as more voyeuristic than fetishistic, especially when they aren't about injecting the female experience with men into the gay experience (like making gay sex more heterosexual in descriptions) and are much more focused on fictional characters/symbols than parasocial relationships with gay influencers/celebrities. rather, some of them seem to be using the (sometimes idealized) gay experience to escape the female experience with men. men loving men (romantically/sexually) seems to be a purer version of male love that women hope to experience but oftentimes do not or cannot, given the homoerotic admiration and respect men hold for other men, but do not extend to women. therefore they opt to be voyeurs. not saying this is necessarily good or bad.

i'm not an avid participant in BL and won't go anywhere near yaoi, especially because of like . . . well everything about yaoi, but I do enjoy gay romance (and lesbian romance) stories, and which i gravitate to more varies according to whatever season of life I'm in on the bi-cycle XD. but i have noticed that i do enjoy these things differently, or rather, what i enjoy about them differs based on my own experiences with patriarchy. it is difficult to imagine het relationships outside the patriarchal hierarchical dynamics, even in fantasies. whereas, removing that relation feels . . . idk, safer, less stressful and more natural to me.

i'm just kind of thinking through things, like, sexuality (not orientation) can be really complex because of how much culture can influence it and the perception of self and I'm just wondering how much BL is escapism for women attracted to men.

anyway, im just thinking out loud here. just putting words out there hoping to find something concrete. but I'm curious, how many radblr users interact with bl/gl or yaoi?

and please share with me your personal opinions/experiences with bl/gl or other variations/genres of it like yaoi

[j2zara]

my friend who isnt on starbreaker tumblr but is obsessed w the clones and jaceporter said that we should put the clones in a band so i have some ideas to run by you:

j2 on vocals and guitar, obviously. hes the songbird, he's the most talented out of them

j4 on bass. she gives off bass playing girlfriend vibes. bass players are also the ones who fuck the most <3

j3 on drums. relegated to the background as usual but the band wouldnt work w/o him

i'm fascinated to know there are people i will never meet who like the clones. Sad (for me) that ur friend isn't interested in joining the circle of perverts but as ppl who have nuclear launch codes to each others psyches i get it.

ANYWAY. The clones in a band. I've never put like thought thought into it but like the want literally crossed my mind like every fuckin day. I keep joking the Jaces (i think jaceprime should get in on it too!) should be in a band so that they can angrily sing The Chain at each other live. But YEAH this is such a good configuration.

J2 our little songbird!!!!!! And everyone is like "well in order to make it you just have to have some sort of It Factor and. Bluejay has the It Factor" (J3 is so so so fucking normal about this). Meanwhile people who are really into them are like "i get Bluejay is the artist but J4 is the secret sauce and the heartbeat that really makes all of it tick. She's the one who has real instincts about this stuff and really punches everything up. Without her they would be so generic and would not have the same longevity". (J3 is. Slightly better about this but is still so so so so so so so so so so fucking normal about this, too)

I think J2 and J4 get into a lot of fights about creative differences, even tho j2 is usually such a Goodboy this means so much to him and i do think he has a strong creative voice and J4's instincts are so the opposite. (in that. Her instincts are so Jade Victorious coded in that she wants to dump a bucket of stageblood on her audience). AND J2 doesn't do it on purpose but he's like. So so so so so so bad about parasocial boundaries. He's like. These are my friends who i love so so so much :'). We couldn't have done this without you. meanwhile J4 shaves her head and bleaches it and comes out in a wig like. "just kidding. I know how badly changing my appearance would disappoint my friends. Just kidding again. I'm not your friend and you have no say over what i do with my body" and is like. Honestly borderline hostile to the audience. (the people who like her are kinda into that tho)

Meanwhile J3 is such a workman. People ask "is J3 the best drummer in the world?" and J2 (if he's in a mood) is like "J3 isn't even the best drummer in the band". He's so Ringo Starr coded. In that he's weirdly popular but also nobody takes him seriously. However, he is extremely hot tho which somehow only makes him Lose Cred even more!!!! b/c people are like. Oh only stupid girls would only ever like J3. He's not a serious Artist. His hotness brings down the rep of the entire band which J4 pretends she doesn't care about even tho she wants to be taken seriously but J2 thinks is really annoying. But to be fair, J2 is the one who is concerned with being commercial.

And like. To be fair all of J3's songs are so Octopus's Garden coded but also if Octopus's Garden was not a children's song but maybe more about being on substances. But there is a subtext of like. It would be nice if everything was peaceful and everyone would get along :) in there

I also think like. there's like. j2j3 tension b/c j3 is annoyed b/c J4 is breathing into his mouth every night but like. Only seems to take J2 seriously as a collaborator. J3 can also be George coded if i say so. Paul / john love-hate relationship that broke up the band even tho ringo left first i love you i see you im sorry for talking so fucking much about the beatles i know thats so gouche but i think beatles lore is so funny and also when ppl are like "who would ever like the beatles" my base instinct is to go [john mullaney voice] my mommy so shut the fuck up! Stop calling my mommy dumb.... J3 is also ringo coded in that when there's nothing but constant conflict you start to worry that maybe you're the problem.

[spicybylerpolls]

ok i've got to come right in and say hi to that anon with a crush on finn. you are not weird!

first off, crushes are normal human behaviour. i want to say this outright and im not even being kind, it's just the facts. please dont let people online ever make you feel that they aren't. it's normal to crush. it's human.

i suppose the important part now is how you deal with this. well, you're talking to a community that can be very harsh and also very kind. what you need to do next is talk to yourself and try to stay aware of your own feelings so they don't become overwhelming.

if you know yourself to be someone who crushes hard/falls in love easily/engages in parasocial relationships, then be aware of what is likely or realistic for this crush. it's not like crushing on someone you know, because it's unlikely to go anywhere. if you understand this, great! enjoy the crush. let me point you towards mike wheeler himself with his poster of conan the barbarian. people throughout history have tacked posters of their crushes to their bedroom walls/had photos on their phone/pinterest boards/have made cave paintings on walls. this is NORMAL.

as for the age thing, which seems to be the big issue here, i would point you towards discourse on this blog before about the nebulousness of age/attraction. emotional maturity is not written on people's faces or the years they were born. finn does not look like a child, and you are in the same age bracket. how much younger did you feel two years ago? probs a lot in some ways, not so much in others.

at the end of the day, your crush is hurting no one, and i hope you don't go ahead and hurt yourself instead. be kind to yourself.

and to any folks out there who who might find themselves with awkward and uncomfortable crushes on finn (or noah for that matter, considering the nature of this blog) when they were younger, perhaps start by asking yourself why this is happening. look deeper before you write yourself off as a bad person. you might be fascinated by what you find, and get to know yourself, and the human condition, a little better.

be a jonathan! look, observe, and be kind.

have a great day anon, and enjoy.

Yeah I agree completely nonny! There's nothing wrong with having a crush, and as long as it doesn't progress into extreme parasocial behavior, it's perfectly natural and human. And it shouldn't cause guilt. FW seems to have that effect on a lot of people haha.

[thebestpartofwakingup]

btw the 'one of the wives' that you mentioned in the mcelroy post is a trained doctor who was running on a campaign of better medical care and education for their local area.

i get not wanting their to be a mix of entertainment industry stuff and politics but that already happens all the time, and at the very least in this case dr sydnee was pretty clearly keeping that work separate from her husbands work

Yeah i know she’s legit! That’s why im so firm on my position, because she runs a podcast as part of the ‘family brand’ and her legitimacy as a doctor and medical expert is directly monetized and folded INTO that brand

I don’t follow the McElroys anymore so I don’t know how much she is still involved in “The Brand” but that doesn’t circumvent the very real damage I think this has done to her *political* legitimacy

And again I think that ties back in to what I said about the McElroys being a cautionary tragedy, I believe these are good people, I really do. But fame recontextualizes things and changes some rules of normal life, and a lot of those changes are easy to miss. I don’t think the McElroys made any mistakes that wouldn’t have been made by any other family in their position, and thats why theyre such a good and fascinating case study.

The less I know about this lady the more legitimate she becomes because the less relevant she is to “The Brand”

If she was a professional podcaster, no instagram promotional following or personal merchandising, and not part of THE poster family of parasocial fame in the social media, I MIGHT have a different stance. I don’t think “making media” automatically makes someone famous, but I do believe the McElroys coopted their own family into a product, and she was part of that product no matter how briefly (and I believe she still is but again I do not know because i do not want to know more about her) and I do not think someone with those ties, with a parasocial relationship with wide swaths of a voting demographic based on a wholly non-political commercially crafted persona, should be in office. Im not even in the same state as her so my stakes are extremely low and I don’t really care because this does not impact me, it’s just too close to if a Kardasian ran for office and Im opposed to that on principle.

[enneamage]

What remains of wilburtwt is much crazier than you think there’s at least 5 seperate ecosystems going on there and they FREQUENTLY fight it’s actually fascinating to see from afar there’s:

-so deep in the parasocial brain they can’t even fathom anything negative about him without getting stressed and create hcs and enemies to get out of it (saddening to see but some are so aggressive and hostile that my pity dies)

-kinda sorta vaguely neutral where there’s still the parasocial level of giving him the benefit of the doubt, but not giving any of those hurt by him any amount of that same generosity

-neutral but more. like they think he sucks but wants him to come back for #content and #music and will call out others in the first category for spreading misinformation and seem to genuinely want him to change but for fully admitted selfish reasons “im just here for music” mindset

-deranged in the sense they want him carnally but do seem to know he’s a bad person and should be held accountable. but will still post about How Bad They Want Him. weirdly see this group of people defend his victims the most

sometimes i want to put them in a lab and just study what’s going on in there 🧫

I should lurk at some point, that sounds intense.

[azumasoroshi]

watched the first two episodes of oshi no ko a while back (REALLY FUCKING GOOD, ive been a manga reader for a while but i stopped reading the recent chapters and basically forgot everything except for the major points and god it’s so satisfying to have the adaptation remind me of what i’ve forgotten in the most beautiful way possible)

but this post isnt about onk, it’s about izaya!! izaya orihara!! lets fucking goooooooooo izaya idol au!!!! i cant get this flea out of my BRAIN

i was about to open a new canvas to draw some more shizaya stuff for my animatic that im never gonna finish and i was like huh. maybe i should draw onk fanart. and then i remembered this art of venti genshin impact with ai’s eyes and i remembered thinking man i hope this becomes an artist trend for people to do with their art blorbos! and then i was like OH. guess i could contribute to the trend by drawing izaya with ai’s eyes

and then i started thinking and i was like huh. Ai’s never experienced love from her parents, doesn’t think she knows how to love or how to express it, doesn’t get attached to others easily, is a perpetual liar, became an idol because she hoped she would learn how to love - oh hey doesnt. that. sound like izaya. just a little bit. not exactly, her character goes into more learning how to love/that she can love while izaya’s character is i can love but only impersonally because i’m afraid of getting hurt and his arc would be learning to let his walls down for his own good

SO for izaya idol au, izaya would become an idol because he wants to experience love, or something along the lines of “there’s no greater demonstration of parasocial love and foolish decision making than in the idol industry! ahaha~” and probably “idols are perfect liars and i need to put myself into their shoes so i can become an even better liar and close myself off to any possibility of falling in love that could ever exist”

there’s a lot of reasons he might want to become an idol, really. there’s so much corruption and behind-the-scenes dealing and lies and facades and shit in the entertainment industry that i think izaya would eat for breakfast. he would LOVE witnessing that shit and making his own shady deals and stuff and occasionally ruining lives and watching people rise and fall down the rankings and tear each other down. plus the people who are in it for passion rather than money are fascinating as well. psychology student’s dream really- i mean what this is definitely about izaya and not me projecting

plus he definitely has the looks for it (narita would hard agree given how many times he’s indirectly called izaya attractive through other characters. we love a canonically hot king)

now i need to make everything shizaya because i’m not okay but i have no idea who shizuo would be lmao

like you could make him some up and coming manager (no age difference stuff here sorry lmao) or a fellow idol (doubtful. shizuo can act cute but i dont think he could dance) or an actor like akane/kana or a streamer??? like memcho (my favorite character)

a mangaka/screenplay writer/writer in general could also work but i feel like you’d have less reason to interact with idols that way

idk how japanese idol groups work for men in particular or if there’s even like a market for that :sob: id have to look into that if i actually started making stuff for this au

alternatively izaya crossdresses as a female idol and somehow no one realizes. except for shizuo. that would be hilarious actually. he refuses to do swimsuit modeling or other provocative stuff and his fans are like “oh?? the brazen kanra-chan is unexpectedly shy?? how cute” and he plays into it but inwardly he’s like. god i know exactly how im gonna go out with a bang when i retire. and shizuo watches him playing at being shy on tv knowing that that motherfucker is planning to strip on his last days as an idol

anyway this is just me spitballing ideas but ill definitely write at least a concept/intro fanfic of this at some point so stay tuned lmAo im just about to run out of writing juices on ABAON so i gotta transfer my energy somewhere else and where better than the idol!izaya au

[werewolfwebsite]

OK I don't really do discourse anymore bc I'm an Adult and I know it stresses people out but the youtuber dream and the fans he has formed the most intense parasocial bonds with r sooo fascinating to me in the most horrifying way.

and the way said fans (im not using the word stan it's fucking stupid, and at this point the only fans of dream are either extremely casual and don't know shit or are have pledged their undying loyalty) treat ANYONE who distances themselves from him is. fucking crazy.

like they act as if every person who joined the dsmp owes their entire career to him when in reality, they all were already having growing online presences. I've seen people go after boo which is especially crazy to me bc their meteoric growth was already happening by the time they joined dsmp, and calling a person w severe dysmorphoa ugly & saying they would be working a minimum wage job if not for dream (which like. come on man. the people saying this shit are the most unemployed of all time) is just cruel.

I've gotten off track but my main point is that most if not all of these creators were actually more materially and directly helped and supported by each other and ESPECIALLY philza minecraft (especially with his tech support, genuinely I think most ccs in this sphere would not have as high framerates while playing games if not for him). and philza was the first person to tell dream to fuck off when he was "joking" about making tommy's career a couple years ago.

dream is literally the reason why I didn't get into the dsmp until last year, bc I thought it heavily included him and I really did not want to support him bc the way he acts w his fans & other rumours I had heard from being in the hermit side of mcyt. I'm glad I learned that literally the only thing he contributed that much was his name because the more I learn about this guy the fucking crazier it gets. idk how he even has fans like granted I've only seen him when he's been on other people's streams but he's straight up not entertaining.

[quicktimeeventfull]

17, 29 for the writing ask!

hello!! thank you for this ask & sorry it took me absolutely ages to answer it.

17. talk to me about the minutiae of your current WIP. tell me about the lore, the history, the detail, the things that won’t make it in the text.

oh im so delighted by this question.

right now the thing that’s occupying like 99% of my brain is a kpop au in which L and light are ludicrously toxic fans of the kpop idol, beyond birthday, who is a random member of the kpop group RE:4PER. they are both entirely batshit, light perhaps slightly more than L, and have developed parasocial relationships with beyond that would put mikami to shame. 

light is well-known amongst the fandom partially for organizing local cupsleeve events (tokyo is a big city!) but mostly for starting twitter drama with everyone who breathes. he is of the ‘protect the purity of our idols’ variety of fans and wishes to kill anyone who implies they are even slightly imperfect or have looked at another human being with romantic intent. he is convinced that beyond WILL meet him somehow and fall in love with him for real. 

L is well-known for posting beautiful, immediate, and wildly misleading translations. his crown jewel is translating beyond’s infamous “human life has no value to me” as “people have many different valuable things to offer in this life.” light loves his translations. he is, however, ready to murder L because L lives to sexualize his favourite idol. L’s other fandom activity is writing very long, depraved and extremely terrible omegaverse RPF. (has light read them? yes, but — he insists — only because he has to know what the enemy is up to.)

anyway, in their normal lives they are complete messes. L has horrific levels of depression & a certain degree of agoraphobia. he hardly ever leaves his home for anything other than cupsleeve events, concerts or the kpop store where he buys his cds. light is deeply mentally ill & categorically refuses to acknowledge this. i feel like when you write dn fic you need to pick a point on the timeline for light and i have picked The Warehouse. he is at all times one bad thought away from collapsing on the ground and screaming at everyone around him. occasionally he does this for real. neither of them have any friends. light hangs out with his mom a lot, though. 

obviously this is a lawlight au because of who i am as a person, so: L is deeply fixated on light because light is pretty much the only person who ever talks to him, even if he mostly does so to yell at L. one time L invited him over and light did his depression dishes for no reason & with zero judgement — he just felt it was probably difficult for L to use his sink. for like a week after L was able to cook things. he has been secretly in love with light ever since. light, for his part, has a massive crush on L because he looks like beyond. therefore, naturally, they develop an utterly batshit relationship in which L pretends to be beyond and they both convince themselves they are, somehow, not hooking up with each other.

so idk this is!! i guess pretty angsty but the concept behind it is that they come to support each other despite being genuinely very difficult people to be around. which they do! i wanted a story about mental illness in which the people involved behave in painful ways but are also humans with whom one can sympathize with and hopefully this will be that. 

ANYWAY sorry this is probably long enough but. that’s where my brain lives currently. 

29. Where do you draw your inspiration? What do you do when the inspiration well runs dry?

i answered this here BUT i will add onto it to give a special shoutout to twenty thousand hertz, which for some reason always fills me with Ideas, many of which objectively don’t have anything whatsoever to do with the actual subject matter of the episodes. they just do such fantastic interviews and constantly pull out fascinating details and insights about the world!! i think everyone who likes podcasts, audio or technology should listen to this. 99% invisible is also and ideas factory & i think game studies study buddies often has extremely in-depth media analysis which sometimes illuminates points of tension that would be fun to explore in fic.

[fuckermcfucker]

I swear i dont know how i would deal with thousands of people making everything i say about how im in love with someone. Like even if every other word out of my mouth is "this is my partner and id die for them" , making Everything I Say about it is so

Idk, parasocial relationships are weird and fascinating man, like its people paying your paychecks and showing you support and being funny but also sometimes they've lost the plot so hard its amazing

And its always a different simplified version of events that yall are guessing at , they're real people they exist as many hours as you do , a million things happen during their days, acting like you know anything cause you have a twenty minute window every other week Is the joke. And its just none of anyone's business