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FORGETTABLE-AU (Page 61-64)
* I-I don't think we were talking about the same thing...
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#FINALLY FINISHED THIS WOHOO#Okay so#I have been keeping this small part of info secret for SOOOO long and it was so funny that JUST this week I got a ton of asks about#Wingdings' voice and I was SO tempted to talk about this little detail#BTW I DIDN'T FULLY MAKE THIS UP#i mean#Yeah I did#BUT IT IS BASED ON SOMETHING I NOTICED!!!!!!#When redacted talks in Wingdings the sound is clean#but when we listen to entry 17 (which is most likely a recording)#There's a VERY loud overlay of garbage noise#And so I was like#I could use this.........#like yeah a sound based on symbols?? we can't understand it! but our brains might do the work for us and maybe try to understand it?#but recording it goes very bad.....#I thought it was fun so I made it a hc for Gaster#and then I applied it here :D#lol#I think the pacing of this one is also a bit too fast but ehh#I hope it's clear#I am so proud of how I drew Alphys in these pages I feel like I am finally understanding her shape and how I want to stylize her#Sans is very good at reading people#He can tell when people are lying#that's why Wingdings didn't lie! he just conveniently forgot to tell him some details about what they found#okay yeah that's enough#TIME FOR THE TAGS#undertale#forgettable-au#forgettable-au-comic#sans
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“Don’t… don’t tell him you think dingbat fonts are cool.”
AUGH @forgettable-au fanart :3 been on another roll with it (in agony constantly)
theres some untranslated wingdings cause i love translating it myself, hope others do too :D
not confident on how “canon” or in-character this is but- I HAD FUN this AU has really got me in the rendering spirit, I really enjoy taking inspiration but also adding mu own silly twists on it and AAA everything looks even more tasty now
I view this as them in New Home after getting something to eat (after the last page update) and heading back the same way since Alphys’ place is on the way to The Lab. The font convo comes back up again and then yeah
Alsoooo if youre interested in behind the scenes stuff heres the speedpaint :3
also i never poster about this- but i had another forgettable dream. it didn’t make any godamn sense. I woke up and drew the only scene I could remember:
Wingdings and Sans had a fight and ig wingdings killed Sans 😭😭😭 in a stairwell for some reason
and current Sans, Papyrus brother Sans, is like watching all of this and was brought here by Lancer like a Ghost Of Christmas Past type situation. Idk why. I choose not to attempt to make sense of this anymore. But i swear this is an actual dream i had 😭
#undertale#undertale fanart#undertale au#forgettable au#forgettable au fanart#wingdings i hate you#/pos#wingdings is the bane of my existence#/aff#it doesnt look like New Home#ignore that#angst?#more funny than sad#but still sad#Cause I imagine wingdings was so bothered by the fact that he couldnt talk to anyone without Sans’ help#and he couldnt get the hang of speaking in a different font for the longest time#so he just kinda became apathetic to the idea of making any kind of connection#with anything that wasnt science#like now he ‘doesnt care’#but before DUDE WAS STRUGGLING#i have a sneaking suspicion he still is struggling#like mans is lying to himself fr fr#but also THE FUNNY#I love just thinking about the inflection on how they would say their lines#yeaaaaaaahhhhhhhh… ‘cooool’#i got this idea from how I always thought of Gaster as really cool before this au#like omg bro can speak in SYMBOLS??? THATS RAD#but then- oh yeah if you really think about it…#thats not all that cool. cause yknow#talking to people and making connections is a thing.
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anyway Dr. WD Gaster being a soft and kind soul makes his character infinitely more interesting to me than him being evil or even just kinda mean. like his passion for his craft lies not in fucked up experiments, but in a genuine love for learning and the opportunity to teach others and do good by his people. he's definitely strange (all scientists are) and kinda intimidating but he's literally the most thoughtful and considerate person ever it's just a little bit hard to tell because of the way he speaks does anyone HEAR me. he's one of the few characters that WOULDN'T benefit from the mad scientist trope.
#hes just a nice old man to me. he LOVES his job and his friends and his people so so so much#and loving the world around you so much that you want to know everything about it is all science is really#he just speaks so matter-of-factly that its hard to find all of that emotion in his words#but the emotion isnt IN his words. its in the pauses in-between#its in the beat of quiet in the middle of his sentences; where he searches for the exact words to describe what hes thinking or feeling#because every experience is worth that much effort. no single thing is insignificant enough to be mindlessly approximated and forgotten.#its in the moment of silence after the player gives up. accepting your choice as it is --#-- but holding you on a dark screen just a moment longer to mourn a world lost to darkness#we always talk about “very very interesting” being one of his calling cards. but “wonderful” is one of his favorites as well.#undertale#deltarune#utdr#wd gaster#dr gaster#gaster#gaster undertale#gaster deltarune#wingdings gaster
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ah. something i find a little funny is seeing people describe the way he speaks as "distant" or "detached", or even outright "cold"
i think it is very safe to say he adresses us in a way that is very personal. heartwarming, even. like someone who is excited to see us and show his work with every release (and has explicitly used the word for it).
idk you guys if you're too weirded out by him that's alright — in fact, the way he has this effect on people solidifies an uncaniness that is very important to his character — but there is no way you can look me in the eye and tell me that "SO TO BE HERE FINALLY ON THE VERGE OF CONNECTION IS QUITE EXCITING." or "I LOOK FORWARD TO CREATING A NEW FUTURE WITH YOU." or "SHALL WE? SHALL WE GO AGAIN?" is expressing nothing but professionalism🚶
#talking to the wall#wow i am uncharacteristically talkative today ahaha#wd gaster#gaster#come on people#NOW ! SHOW YOURSELF ! DELTARUNE !#that? that is nothing but sheer exitement#he even expresses sympathy about covid and No these are not just formalities#he cares 💕✨#this strange yet welcoming energy is what makes him a great introductory character#he's just careful. being formal doesn't mean being distant#sure he will keep us at an arm's length when it comes to himself but he is still friendly#in his own odd ways#autism knows autism 😔✊#also the way you cannot get the egg on the weird route like hmm#someone just got horribly disappointed.#someone who's watching your every move to know you dont deserve an egg#this guy has no professional persona he IS the persona#consider: mad genius whos shaped like a friend (also low masking he sucks at this fitting in thing)
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Errmm, actually you're one day late ☝️🤓 part two
#Happy late birthday sans#gaster decided to destroy time continuum to find his late husband ((and celebrate their son's birthday))#good for them good for them#also can we talk about how much i hate that fandom made jan 4th paps birthday#can we remake it to be jan 29 instead??? the puzzle day??? not the goddamn spaghetti day??!?#undertale#papyrus#sans#sans undertale#papyrus undertale#wingding gaster#w.d. gaster#Grandpa Semi#ut semister#my art#i hope people will pick up semister i love them so much
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Fascinated that I have apparently reached the degree of popularity where my art of my own interpretation of Gaster for my own AU can be separated from me enough that it’s tagged (and replied to!) as if he is something else entirely.
Granted, I did make a meme with no explanation, so it’s entirely reasonable to draw your own conclusions. But I never actually expected my art would ever circulate beyond a very small circle of people who were familiar with my interpretation. You know? So it’s kind of a strange feeling for me. Not upset or anything, just fascinated.
EDIT: fascinated further to have discovered this person is my mutual-in-law
#seeker talks#gaster#was kind of annoyed at first but I think ‘fascinated’ really does capture my current feelings#glad to be inspiring someone I suppose.#But I do wonder if people don’t… realize that the original artist will see what they add??#I’m not angry. I really am just fascinated by this.#Obviously now that my art has been tagged as someone else’s AU I am going to go see what that’s about.
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Possession, PSAs, and his Shades
We’ve gone over a lot already, but man. I just keep on looking at everything happening and thinking about it nonstop. There’s so much to talk about where Fresh is involved and while analyzing the character directly in the context of underverse is absolutely still on the table, I can think of more things to talk about.
So I’m going to do that! This post’ll be about a bit more of a variety of things, especially in regards to stuff I personally enjoyed massively. Let’s go!!
The Possession
This part may be a bit scrambled and I apologize in advance, and I also warn that trying to find information on THIS in particular is fairly difficult. There are some things that are a fact, for sure;
Fresh is the parasite who’s possessing the body (that purple thing up there? That’s Fresh), and consumes the Host’s SOUL while in their body for sustenance. The Host does not have control while being possessed.
…And that is all the facts I’m 100% sure on. The rest? From what I could find briefly searching the records I know of, much harder to confirm. For Underverse, it’s safe to assume “The Host is Conscious while possessed” is true, given Ink responds to Fresh’s PSA after being freed from his control, and it’s been heavily implied that being possessed hurts a LOT given, yknow, having your soul slowly eaten away by a parasite cannot possibly be pleasant.
I will note that it probably hurt less for Ink because Ink doesn’t have a soul. BUT WAIT, if Fresh needs a soul to possess someone, and Ink doesn’t have one, how does the possession work?? I’m glad but also surprised you asked because Fresh explains it himself to Ink!
Fresh may not need the vials himself, but Ink absolutely runs off them. At the very least Ink’s emotions run off them, and for most other monsters having a SOUL is connected to having emotions (or at least, NOT having a soul is explicitly connected to NOT having emotions). That makes the vials a suitable substitute for the magic Fresh needs to consume from a host to live, at least for Underverse!
This would also explain why Fresh’ possession lasted no longer than a few minutes before running out completely- the material in those vials does NOT last long, not even for Ink! Ink has to refill them and drink them regularly, and Ink’s body is probably better at processing them. Fresh, meanwhile, is insatiable, constantly drawing on the magic for his own survival without regard to the host’s well being, and that would drain the effects of the vials even FASTER than their already short time frame.
I also want to talk about physically how Fresh possessed Ink. Nothing weird, but details about the battle that absolutely delight me.
Magically we know at this point Fresh had to trick Ink into drinking the vials so the possession would function. But PHYSICALLY, Fresh ALSO needed to get Ink into a position where he would be susceptible to possession!
A LOT of legwork was done for him beforehand. Error had done some damage to Ink already, wearing him down magically and physically for a bit before being interrupted, and that’s not even looking at the fact that Ink was already a bit roughed up before Error got to him.
Fresh forced Ink to drink the Unlimited Vial as well, which while he didn’t know it would do this, helped to wear Ink down further. Forcing Ink to feel something overwhelmingly oppressive that Ink could only think to describe as “Pain” in the moment. This may not have physically negatively affected Ink, but it did have a mental effect, and that matters just as much in this case.
Then, before Ink had any time to really recover, Fresh forced him to chase him- something that pushed Ink to start using magic and of course having to physically follow after Fresh. And this chase is FAST, based on how much the wind is whipping at their clothes in the animation, Fresh is making Ink WORK for those vials.
Ink is physically exhausted, as emotionally exhausted as he’s capable of being, and mentally exhausted as well (potentially also why he’s so quick to make foolish predictable decisions around FRESH, someone he’s obviously familiar with to SOME degree). After everything he’s been put through he’s tired, and in perfect condition for Fresh.
Physically, Fresh gets VERY close to Ink, very quickly. He’s in front of Ink before Ink’s realized what’s happening, and he only gets closer as the scene progresses. The view from Ink’s perspective is wonderful, Fresh absolutely looming over him (and the camera) with how much taller he is and how close he’s standing. Fresh also reaches out to Ink himself, nearly close enough to touch Ink.
Obviously, the physical process is Poof’d out in the animation, which I’m not surprised by at all because as has been stated by CQ and others, “It’s pretty gross,” and also probably pretty difficult to animate. We don’t need to see that, we understand what’s going on here and we have a battle flow to keep up because Error is there pretty immediately after. I ADORE how menacing it was the entire time leading up though, THAT is delicious.
And then we get to the actual being possessed part!
In my various analysis posts, I haven’t talked about Fresh!Ink as a separate, 3rd character of some kind whatsoever, and that is VERY intentional. Fresh!Ink is not a character of its own, it’s a state of being, specifically Ink’s status as Actively Possessed. This isn’t a fusion situation where both of their mindsets and thoughts are contributing to their actions, this is exclusively Fresh.
This is something ESSENTIAL to keep in mind. Ink is nothing more than a body in the Fresh!Ink dynamic, Fresh is as in control here as he is in his own typical hosts. Trying to imply that Fresh!Ink is a separate character from Fresh somehow is completely misunderstanding how Fresh!Ink even functions on a baseline level- it’s largely an aesthetic change that, in this case, was only important because Ink needed to be unrecognizable for a while.
PSAs
Fresh loves addressing us directly. It’s a sure-fire way to ensure he’s the center of attention to what REALLY matters, the audience, even if it means being ignored in universe or confusing to other characters.
Nothing exemplifies this better than when he gets into a PSA (short for Public Service Announcement), a part of his 90s facade where characters would stop and address the audience in order to teach a lesson of some kind. Said character often being portrayed as cool and competent, or at least knowledgeable about the topic at hand, and using the situation around them to deliver some kind of moral message with the other characters.
This is good context to have on who Fresh’s dialogue is for and why in the world he would say everything he does. I mentioned this before, but it bears repeating that Fresh is a character that is not only 100% aware of the fourth wall, but is known for interacting with it himself to some degree. Fresh is meant to be funny, so this awareness is played as a joke in most cases, but you better believe there is some intense existential dread deeply baked into his character as a result.
Anyways! Let’s look at the dialogue during the fight and really pull apart what it means.
Fresh: Dude, dese days have been kinda on the wacko side for everyone, huh? I smell unrad vibes just all over da dang place.
Error: You're dead, Ink!!
Fresh: I think ya talkin' to da wrong broski. Our glitchy pal needs a chill pill. Let's learn how ta handle dis here situation. Sometimes when people get angry all dey get is a well-deserved time out. So- tell ya rainbow buddy- whats makin' ya so unhappy?
Error: Quit playing games, you fu[nking mu]stard!!
Fresh: Unrad, Bro! Nobody like it when ya rude! As ya can see, hostility can be challengin' at times. It's a sign dat they're all up in their head, fightin' a much harder battle dan da external. And most people aren't aware of it. Find out what it is dats tormentin' dem. And use dat weakness against dem ta destroy their life. let dem know dat nobody messes with you. ...And dat mah friendos, is how ya come ta realize dat you must care about yaself first and above anyone else!
Error: You're [Fun]king crazy!!! I'm wasting my time with freaks like you! Once I'm done with Ink, you're next, whoever you are!!!
This is the full exchange Fresh has with Error, and what Error and Ink witnessed on their end- with a reminder that Fresh was very rarely actually talking to Error, often facing away from Error while speaking in the battle. It’s also worth noting that in the episode itself, all of this text is in uppercase, I made the decision to put it in lowercase here for the sake of legibility- but it being in uppercase IS important, they’re both being loud here.
This is a message from Fresh about how to handle someone actively attacking you, based on context. He’s sharing what to do in a battle to get out on the other side of it alright, based on what he knows and thinks of course. His delivery here is patronizing and weird, but there IS real substance to this.
His first piece of advice is to force the opponent into “time out,” which he demonstrates is getting the opponent into a state of being less able to attack, via slapping Error out of the air and to the ground. The flow of Error’s attacks are interrupted now that he’s been disrupted like that, and Fresh moves onto the next step!
The time out is, apparently, intended as a way to get them to stop fighting and start talking, as Fresh immediately asks Error directly a question, something he would only need to do to get Error’s side during this little informational encounter. As has been said, he doesn’t care about actually talking to Error here, he’d just keep talking to us at home if he didn’t think it was fitting for his message to chat with Error.
Obviously Error is just furious more than anything, immediately retaliating against Fresh. This is fine, though- Fresh IS trying to give advice on what to do in a battle, and sometimes talking to someone doesn’t work! So of course, you need to be able to keep calm, and follow the next steps of success.
It starts off as a very typical “thinking of the other person” friendliness type thing, noting that someone who’s engaging in a fight with you has something going on in their head making them think choosing that violence is a good or worthwhile idea. That they’re fighting an internal battle that most people wouldn’t even know about.
And hey! Internal battle in your head that no one knows about… just like the internal struggle of his hosts against him, that no one else ever thinks about, right guys? Making a little ominous tangent is something he does for us at home, because he knows there are a lot of people that enjoy that about him- and that it makes him interesting, having things about him that aren’t what you expect and make you want to look closer at him.
And he continues with that darker tone, because his answer to continued conflict is to fight back; specifically, to fight back smarter, not harder than your enemy. Find out what’s wrong with your opponent, what will hurt them the worst possible, what their weakness is- and utterly destroy them with it. End it in one decisive hit, striking at the weakest part of your enemy as hard as possible.
And of course, he demonstrates doing this! Lovely Error is someone he knows pretty well, well enough to exploit Error’s fears in this fight. When Fresh counter-attacks, Error actually runs entirely from that attack. If you watch carefully, you can see error make a portal out of the doodlesphere as the hands reach toward him, and back away into it to avoid being hit.
Which, guess what? Means that Fresh wins! Obviously, if your opponent flees from a battle, you can consider that a win, because they are now no longer fighting you- the goal of all this advice!
His final moral message to the viewers is his own personal standpoint, that you have to care about yourself more than you care about anyone else! Don’t pity the enemy or try to offer kindness when they’re fighting you, tear them apart and show them it was a mistake to try and trap you in a battle. NO one messes with you, or else.
And then the possession is over! With Ink telling Fresh that what he said didn’t make any sense at all, which is probably due to a mix of Fresh’s speech patterns, Fresh’s intended audience being us, and also Ink not having a lot of time to process and consider what Fresh is talking about (unlike us who can spend days looking at the same 5 minutes of animation and tearing it apart piece by piece).
Fresh doesn’t push it, likely because it IS a pretty significant insight into his thought process (not to mention the fact the message wasn’t mainly for Ink anyways). Instead he starts deflecting by pointing out that eating paint doesn’t make any sense either, but Ink still does that, putting Ink in a kind of “gotchya” position where he’d have to explain eating paint before Fresh explains his little message there- which Fresh knows Ink isn’t going to do, at minimum because Core is here and Ink’s only just noticed.
I did word my thoughts as “the message wasn’t mainly for Ink” intentionally though. Fresh had spent the lead up to the fight berating Ink on his thoughtlessness, and on his dramatic lack of planning ahead when faced with a situation in the moment (By comparison to Fresh, at least. I do think Ink is capable of planning ahead to SOME degree given his actions over the course of Underverse absolutely being planned in their own right, but Fresh is berating him for not planning ahead ENOUGH, hence the current state of everything right now and also his dramatic victory.)
I think to Fresh, Ink could also benefit from this message on how to stop having ridiculous fights (with error especially) that waste time and don’t end with a clear enough winner to make the opposing party back off. Ink wastes a TON of resources and gets into a lot of risky situations that could be avoided if he fought more heartlessly AND efficiently, so this advice could help if Ink ever plans to start ignoring his feelings again.
Right now, of course, the advice hardly applies at all. Obviously, Ink is presently emotional, especially after the battle and drinking all the vials (more or less). And, Ink potentially can’t succeed in this situation following Fresh’s advice, it may be more worthwhile to use some level of sympathy and kindness to dissolve the situation, something Ink specifically is in the perfect position to do as a friend of X Gaster.
That’s the delicious crux of this situation though, isn’t it?
Ink is in a very, very unique position as someone who knows a lot about X Gaster. A LOT about X Gaster, more than essentially anyone else in the multiverse that isn’t from XTale directly. There are a few routes Ink can go down in now, helping the “good side” to combat him. As an old friend, he could try to appeal emotionally, trying to work with XGaster for a different resolution to everything having seen that it’s gone too far.
Or… maybe everything Fresh said here just doesn’t make sense YET. Fresh’s message to us and to Ink could be foreshadowing for the future- that the battle is going to be ended because Ink, or someone else extremely close to XGaster, is going to reveal XGaster’s weakness. That with that weakness, they’re not just going to fight XGaster, they’re going to utterly destroy XGaster, so that there is no question whatsoever who won.
That’s just speculation of course… Can’t say for sure if it was foreshadowing when we can’t look to the future yet and see it play out. Cool as heck if it is foreshadowing though, could you imagine. I’d go crazy, again, and probably write like three more posts about how Fresh is a genius and the true hero of underverse and other equally ridiculous claims.
His Shades
The last thing I want to talk about here is short and it’s about Fresh’s shades. This is mostly me just wanting to talk about them because I love them and the attention to detail in these animations is absolutely incredible and worth discussing. BUT HEY I bet people would like to hear about how they work and what they mean for Fresh and yada yada ok cool let’s jump in.
SO Fresh is known for his awesome “YOLO” shades, of course, but they can change to display other text!! This is a cool fact that I’ve never seen so beautifully executed, but has always been enjoyed on my end- but the way Fresh’s shades work is a bit hard to pin down!
I think, to some degree, it’s safe to say Fresh has control over what his shades say. I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s in perfect control over what they say, though, moreso that they respond to him directly. I say this because of how they shift when he’s attacked by Error- during some of the impact frames they change to say “oof!” and react in perfect time with him expressing worry or concern over situations.
It is possible he controls them entirely and is just that good at it, but it’s up for debate, and either way he’s still using his shades to convey his intentions as much as any other form of body language.
You may have noticed that sometimes, however, his Shades don’t show ANY text. Specifically, three or four times that are notable (There are others but they’re during moments when Fresh is very VERY distant or when he’s in heavy motions, where it’s more likely his shades just aren’t big enough to have fit any kinds of letters on for the sake of animating, and I don’t think those count for here).
First, when he’s forcing Ink to drink the vial. Second, when he tells Ink that the both of them are very different and he’s smarter (they stay off until Fresh has possessed ink), Third for a moment before jumping up to hit Error that may just be another case of “animating the words here wasn’t worth it” but that I have trouble believing given other instances there’re words, and then after Error has them pinned to the ground tied up in strings for more or less the rest of the fight.
All of these moments are unique in that they also coincide with moments where Fresh is being MOST genuinely himself, and not lying nearly as much as every other time. Showcasing his lack of any feelings at forcing Ink to drink the unlimited vial, devoid of anything but cold curiosity. Tipping his hand in preparation for possessing Ink, blankly stating that he and Ink are very very different, and that relating them too much to each other is a dangerous mistake to make.
Again, with jumping up to meet Error in the air, it could be a moment of “animation dropping the text,” but to humor if it isn’t, Fresh is ACTIVELY accepting combat in that moment. The break in text is the break in his facade and active focus on us at home, he has to take a moment to actually engage in this battle- but it’s entirely unnecessary to display any text about it in that moment. He’s deciding his next move, calculating and waiting for the perfect time to jump.
It’s easy to assume the fourth instance where he’s tied up, the letters are gone because the visor is visibly broken. That could make sense, perhaps- but soon after it’s shown that no, the visor still absolutely works, and could be displaying a visual.
Not displaying any text here has just as much reason as not displaying any text any other time, and in this case is used for two reasons. It’s used for this moment of being very ominous, for one, giving us this excellent shot intended to be pretty frightening juxtaposed against Fresh’s usual behavior and atmosphere. But yet again it’s also a tell for when Fresh is being “most genuine” in his exchanges!
At this point is where he’s talking about how to defeat someone who won’t stop fighting, by taking advantage of any weakness they show and destroying them completely as a consequence for it. That’s very genuinely something Fresh would and probably did do to people, and he doesn’t need to sugar coat it with fun visuals and lies. After all, we know what he’s like, that he doesn’t care and that at his most truthful, there is nothing he is feeling to convey. He’s empty… Just like his shades are, showing nothing to us because there’s nothing to see.
Instances when his shades do have text still do bleed into his reactions, like I mentioned, and show his current state of being to some degree. Displaying “HAHA” at multiple times within the battle as he’s enjoying himself, showing to say “OK UH” when he’s looking at Ink’s vials to decide which to toss at him, and a ton of other fun little moments! It’s a delight to watch and fills me with joy every time I look at it, absolutely wonderful.
That’s all for this post though! I covered a lot of ground here and said a lot, but that’s kind of why I wanted to talk about this at all! I had a lot of thoughts that could do with being shared, and I hope you all enjoy this one as much as the others!
#fresh#fresh underverse#underverse 0.7#underverse#ink#error#truefreshinfo#shocking no one I may have more to say even still#I have been watching the fights on loop just thinking non stop#I might take requests#if people have questions it could be fun#I get to talk about fresh more and you get to know more things#I would love to see it#x gaster#xgaster#not sure which is best#fresh!ink#tumblr put my post in the tags challenge impossible
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YEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
@findmeabowlofundertale what did you do??? I never finish things?? Anyway I hope you like it!!! I felt the sudden need to make this and it turned out being my first full animatic!! (if you can count the sketchy lines as a full animatic lol)
He's getting a lot better at speaking! He can even sing!
Probably a bit too deep, but the weird robotic glitchyness kinda reminded me of his text sound effect
#How to animate people dancing?? ;-;#THEY JUST SO IN LOVE AND SILLY!!!!!#I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT SO MUCH WHILE MAKING IT BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SURPRISE YOUUUU!!!!#Gaster#Asteri#Undertale#art for Seeker#< yeeeahhhh I'm just gonna make a tag for that lol#Dapper draws
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yknow what ive seen a lot of "gaster and chara fucking hated each other" headcanons but ive seen very little of the opposite. which to me is kinda sad bc imo its a better, more fun interpretation.
i like to imagine gaster looked at this hurt, traumatized child and saw a bit of himself in them. and so he offered them advice.
yall know the smile theory? that smiling make monsters stronger in a way? that it can stave off death, even if for a short while, etc? that *thats* the significance of it, the reason why its so tied to gaster? that could very well be the reason chara is known for their smile, too.
i nean- theyre a child who was so badly hurt they were practically obsessed with the concept of finality—a state in which they are too powerful to be hurt by anyone. i can see them not smiling almost at all when they first fell (what is there to smile about?) until they hear from gaster that a smile is protection. when you smile, others cant hurt you as bad. a smile is like armor. he smiles to stay safe because he knows all thats out there, all thats capable of harm.
and from then on chara smiles no matter what. they smile and laugh through the wordt moments. because they know now this is their armor. their protection.
i rhink they would admire gaster. his efforts for monsterkind, his advice to them. i think theyd see him as someone trustworthy (in my own personal headcanon, he knew about their and asriels plan. not fully, i mean, but he knew the lengths chara could go to. and the only reason he knew was because he would do the same. chara told him because they saw a kindred spirit)
i like to think gaster is crushed post charas death. i also like to think that, if chara remembers gaster after their "revival", *then* they would have issues. we know nothing about gaster canonically, sure, but in my own headcanon and theory world, the things he does make less and kess sense to chara, align less with their worldview and their beliefs. and only then do they clash with him. because at first he was someone they genuinely loved, someone they admired.
anyway, i think gaster thought of them almost as family. he cared for them deeply, always ready to give advice or comfort or teach them or. really anything. they would sit and talk for hours about the world and their personal philosophies and findings. i want gaster, like the dreemurrs, to be part of the loving world chara never got to experience on the surface rather than yet another enemy. you know?
#might be a lil disjointed its like 5 am#i generally think of gaster as someone with a lot of love to give. its not that he cant hate. he just. feels its better to love#and he loves this child as his own. and asriel too ofc. i think those two called him uncle#and hed let them play in his lab (supervised n away from dangerous shit)#and when their parents told them they couldnt do that anymore hed stabd in the open doorway and go#“oh no. the door is wide open. i sure do hope no children go through this wide open door into my lab. gosh that would be horrible”#and theyd giggle and go through and hed cover for them every time#i like to rhink he taught chara piano#i think they talked a lot about humanity. i think he saw the war and therefore chara does t understand how he can be so nice to them#theyre human. doesnt he hate humanity? doesnt he hate what they did to him? to all monsterkind?#and he shakes his head and says those who did those things are no longer alive. it would be wrong to blame a people with no memory of a war#for its existence and its consequences. and even those who started it he barely blames. he knows what fear can do#chara doesnt understand how someone could be sk devoid of anger and of hatred and gaster tries to show them such things sre not necessary#anyway yeah i think they have long and deep conversations. which is kinda funny when you consider#gaster is (at the time) the smartest monster in the underground. authority on all things scientific and having live through years innumerabl#and his conversation partner is like. 10#he respects them nonetheless and its so foreign to them. and they love their conversations even if they dont agree#because they are allowed to state beliefs without being hurt for it#anyway i gotta stop yapping i needa sleep#undertale#chara undertale#gaster undertale#finking#i feel like im forgetting to tag smthn. if i am ig ill lament that in the morning or smthn
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Support group for UTDR fans that don't give a fuck about Gaster
#* talk#ik he's probably really important to the plot of deltarune in particular#but i'm sorry i've honestly never really found him compelling. or been interested in the mystery of his character#this is probably a result of me getting into undertale when it came out#and experiencing firsthand when gaster was completely inescapable in fan content#as well as how much he would overshadow characters that were more deserving of attention#i harp on about this but i'm still NOT over how people would say that everything in true lab was his doing...#the KEY part of alphys' backstory and character development?#i'm gonna kill you.#also always found it annoying when people attribute every single mystery in the game that doesn't directly mention him to gaster#where's your imagination. it could be the bird that carries you over a disproportionately small gap giving the player eggs.#undertale fans when their wife leaves them: IS THAT A GASTER REFERENCE:!?!??!?!
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I was just wondering, because wingdings and papyrus speak in different fonts but with the same body, do they have different voices/ what do they sound like? This au is so cool btw I love this sm
OHHH I NEED TO ANSWER THIS PROPERLY BUT I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME RN
I'm just gonna say rn that YES they do sound different because their fonts change the way they sound but It's not a MASSIVE change because at the end of the day it IS the same body
I need to go into more detail about this later akahssk (also there's the whole thing about Wingdings' voice sounding like gibberish to other monsters unless he switches to the default font,,,,)
#I don't think Wingdings sounds like the usual voice people give to Gaster alsjskdns#but he doesn't sound like papyrus either akaja#I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHAY HE SOUNDS LIKE#you're all free to imagine what he sounds like!#you can give him something unique or more Gaster or more Papyrus like#But I WILL make a more detailed post talking about that!#answered ask
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On the topic of gaster because I have him on the brain now. Interesting to me that so many people see the “what do you two think” line as referring to sans and papyrus. Even though I don’t think there’s really any connection between papyrus and gaster other than they’re both connected to sans in some way. Sans has the gaster blaster as the big one but he also has the workshop and whatever and also the out of nowhere acknowledgement of timelines. (Don’t get me started on this. Or do. I have a lot to say on how the timeline acknowledgement and sans being secretly super powerful feels more like a joke than something you’re supposed to take seriously but also I’ve never actually fought him so idk lol. Maybe that’s the gist of it actually.) Papyrus doesn’t really have anything connecting him to gaster. I think this is another reason the “gaster is blood related to the skeletons” thing never really felt right to me LOL However I’m not really sure what to actually make of the line. iirc alphys didn’t actually seem to be well known until she created mettaton? So I’m not sure she would necessarily have been super close with gaster. Idk. I don’t have much more to say about this. I’m not sure where I was going with this lol
#Alphys is the only person other than maybe asgore who could fit in that line as being close to something gaster did. IF gaster is even a#big lore thing at all. in general I’ve always thought you weren’t supposed to think about him this hard lol he’s just a weird easter egg#His name is spelled very similarly to easter…..(This doesn’t mean anything)#Don’t even start me on all my skepticism that gaster will be some big character in deltarune. I genuinely think that’s nothing. LOL#Theorycrafting and headcanon is all in good fun I suppose there’s nothing wrong with any of this please don’t think I’m like. mad at people#Sorry. I have so many undertale thoughts and I never ever talk about them.
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I've seen a rather large amount of evidence to suggest that Dr. Gaster will end up being the Deltarune equivalent to Flowey. They both spearhead the launch of their respective games via Toby's twitter, and both serve as the immediate introductions to their respective game's Core questions.
However, Im not enclined to believe that Gaster will simply be a Flowey-equivalent villain from this. What Flowey represents is intrinsic to the theme Undertale is trying to get across, I believe Deltarune has a different theme, and as a result, needs a different foil.
Flowey is an allegory for a player, to mirror Undertale's lesson of responsibility. And while I think it's too early to say what Deltarune's core theme is exactly, I can make a very safe assumption that it involves freedom, control, and the relationship between different layers of reality.
The narrative equivalent to Undertale's saving and loading in Deltarune is the creation of Dark Worlds. Queen's speech in chapter 2 seems to heavily imply this. It would make sense then that the equivalent to flowey, then, would represent a creator instead.
This would fit with what we know for sure about Gaster. He experimented with darkness and more-than-likely DT too. and he "Fell into his creation"
Often that line has been theorized to refer to the CORE, but I've always been skeptical of that. It's just a generator, why would it shatter him across space and time? But assuming that Gaster's creation is the world of Deltarune itself, that line gains a much more profound and interesting meaning to it.
#deltarune#deltarune theory#dr gaster#also into guy is ABSOLUTELY gaster. He talks like Gaster. He quotes entry 17 in the tweets. Y'know... the entry found in room_gaster!!!#Im sure all you beautiful and smart people already knew that already. but I've been burned by dumbasses too many times <3
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utdr fans when a character doesn’t talk in the exact same tone and capitalization all the time
#why are people saying the valentine isn’t gaster c’mon#also about people saying Alphys didn’t write true lab stuff that uses caps#like come on#characters can change how they talk depending on the context
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So, in a... "No mercy to every monster" route, there's dialog if you wait ten minutes after you destroy the world. The mysterious voice asks for your soul, so you give it to the voice, and you get to play the game again. But still... that voice has your soul.
The same voice as the one in the begging of Deltarune, belonging to W. D. Gaster.
Here's how I know.
In Journal Entry 17, (assumed to be) Gaster says
"Darker, Darker, yet Darker...
Photon readings negative"
The important thing is the photon readings negative. Irl Physics doesn't have such a thing as negative photons, but if it did, it would be what SpongeBob calls "Advanced Darkness." This is something we actually see every time we open a door to a dark world; negative photons leaking out of the door.
A man scattered across time and space is not limited to one dimension, and so the world of deltarune was the world that Gaster takes your soul to. All this to carry out his Experiment; Dark Worlds.
As for the line, "what do you two think?" It may likely be the Prince (Ralsei) and another figure, possibly the Knight.
TL;DR - Gaster takes your soul after you and Chara destroy the world in Undertale, and Journal Entry 17 is setup for Deltarune.
#undertale#deltarune#w.d gaster#theory#why are people still confused about the relation of deltarune and undertale???#or is everyone on the same page but no one talks about it because it's so well known and nearly confirmed?#sans undertale#haha
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after watching so many fucking DR theories today i realized there's three categories for them. First you have the theories that are solely based on solid proof, guiding themselves thru the dialogue and statements and translations and code and such. Second we have the theories that mix both those things, they are mixing things we know for sure with things they think MIGHT be true, using things from OUTSIDE the game to guide themselves. And last we have the theories where they just are making shit up, basically making an AU, and calling a theory, with little to no proof, which can be fun but are often handled in such an obnoxious matter it can be annoying.
#luly talks#not upset about the dood upset about jaru who apparently is just like the dood#i just really dislike when people get lost in their hubris and present outrageous things as facts#like one thing is connecting gaster to shit because that has solid proof that has the code and the music and la concha de tu hermana#but these people are coming up with shit that is just entirely made up. and being like heh... yes guys i cracked the code.
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