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I was thinking the same thing. I love them both

Sydcarmy is almost identical to richonne and it's making me ill

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All fun and jokes aside. If the energy is not charged and intense next season between Sydney and Carmy I'm done with The Bear.

Like how in the world can they go back to normal after everything they said to each other. "You're suppose to be here". Sydney telling Carmy she wanted him there with her. "You're my partner" she's telling him I'm choosing YOU, even though hes always hurting her. "Any chance of good started when you walked into this building" that's Carmy confessing he sees her. That's him telling her he's been paying attention and tuning right into her from the very beginning. "You're The Bear" Now for the love of God.....if nothing else from that alley fight don't throw them off their axis.....that Fxing 3 letter word seal the deal. How can they go back to normal after that confession, that she's officially part of him. It was more than a love confession.😭😭😭 The raw emotiona, him seeing Sydney in distress and crying. There is no going back from all that. Carmy broke something in Sydney and if he's not a complete mess next season because of it.......I'm done. I know he's looking for peace and happiness, but I don't want him to find it until he's doing right by Syd. Yes, I'm being selfish. I know Carmy is traumatized and all, but that doesn't give him the right to hurt people who loves him and sacrifice alot for him. Healing is a team work thing. He needs to surround himself with people who love and support him. Hurting Syd n The Bear Family is unacceptable. Traumatized or not.

I love that Carmy put it all out there for her to hear bcuz he realized she wanted him there😭😭😭. He thought she didn't and that's why she didn't sign the agreement. Now, both of these dumbaxx kids thinking they don't want each other. While Sydney wants Carmy and Carmy needs Syd.

Season 5 have to be intense. I want to see how unstable Carmy's gonna be when Syd ghost him like he ghosted Claire.

Can he go weeks or months without talking to Syd?

How will Sydney distancing herself affects him?

How will Carmy feel seeing Richie steal/gain the attention of someone he loves or admire again?

When will Syd confess about EMP!? Why is it taking forever?? TF! That confession better be the biggest thing in tv history since I have to wait 10,000bc for it. LMAO.

Just venting cuz season 4 got me all the way fx.ed up! Carm and Syd was next level intimate without even touching. Claire got nothing on them. It's time for Carmy to stop the emotional cheating and just choose Sydney.

The End lmao.

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The Bear Season 5 Sydcarmy WISH LIST:

1. I need Sydney to avoid/ignore Carmy

2. I need Sydney to be thick as thieves with Richie to the point where Carmy burns with jealousy. ( Like I want him to constantly look at them when they interact) Also Carm is seeing a Therapist lol.

3. I want the crew to go out to celebrate Marcus. During that time I want Carmy to spot Sydney and Luca's chemistry (n he's gonna hate how it makes him feel)

4. I need Carmy to realize that all important information is coming from Nat. Nat will ask him if Sydney didn't tell him and what's going on with the two of them.

5. I need Carmy to visit his mom again, but somewhere along the line Syd's name pop up and Carm finds out about Sydneys best meal. He's gonna crash out after hearing it.

6. I need Claire and Carm to meet up. I want him to give her the sweatshirt and close that chapter. FYI, he's thinking about Sydney during that time.

7. Carmy is still crashing out over Syds fav meal. He's going to try n talk to her about it, but she's gonna dismiss him over n over.

8. I need The Sandwich Window (mini Beef) to expland officially.

9. I need Carmy to finally lose it with Syd. Corner her to get some more information about her favorite meal and why she kept it a secret from him.

10. I need Richie to put carmy in his place for making Sydney an emotional mess. Like, threaten his axx for making her cry and distant.

11. I need Tina to plate in less than 3 mins (because her teacher is great) aka Syd

12. I need Carm to have a panic attack over not being close to Sydney anymore. I want him to rock with fear thinking they will never have any type of relationship. I need him to suffer with the idea that even though she's staying at The Bead, he still lost her.

13. Carmy will accidentally meet Emmanuel. Syd will not be happy about it and Carmy will ask her why she's being like that with him.

14. Lastly. Carmy will confess to Sydney that the only time he enjoys cooking is when he's cooking with her. And he's aware of it now becus they haven't been cooking together and he hates how it makes him feel.

Wishful thinking, right? Lmao.

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I don't know why.....but I would love to read a fanfic where Carmy and Michael fell in love with Sydney. Like both of them fell in love with her becus she secretly save them from mental destruction.

Like, ultimately she will choose Carm, but I'll love to read some angst and watch both of them lose it over her.

Y'all don't hate me, just thinking out loud lmaooo.

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He had to remind her lmao.

Sydney: Should I send my revised COGS to your girlfriend?

Carmen: She’s not my girlfriend.

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Sydney: You’re my partner

Carmen: I’m your friend. I’m your fucking friend!

and I was supposed to be normal about that. notice how that didn’t take a fucking pep talk from the Faks. that one came from the gut. from the SOUL.

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I find it odd that in the middle of the apples conversation between Carmy and Sydney...... Carmy just said "fennel" Like why was that on his mind? And then Syd is like "Where you got that from?" 😂🤣😂🤣😂

I'm just as confused as Sydney. 😂🤣😂🤣😂😂 Not to mention the whole time she was nervous about the conversation becus she doesn't know what to expect from him. 😂🤣

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The Bear and the Male Gaze, Male Jealousy, and Carmy

Carmy and Syd have spent 18 (?) months locked in the same box, and are each others' one and only in so many ways. It's not even bad or abnormal that Carm took her for granted. It just never even occurred to him that there was a world outside the Bear.

But all it takes is one ambitious semi-resourceful man, and suddenly Sydney is out there alone, insecure, exposed, underresourced, undermined.

In this case the guy even did all the work to fill in Carmy on his wife's endangerment, which is fascinating. It's practically canon that Shapiro, who knew a different version of Carm than Syd's version, was hoping to provoke an angry attack on Syd by an egotistical and vain Carm, driving Syd and maybe some of her friends from work right into Shapiro's arms. Carmy did not comply with Shapiro's expectations!

He did, however, recognize that Syd had been picked off because she'd been left unprotected as a result of his aforementioned egotism and vanity. He simultaneously realized the idea of Sydney starting her day by saying "morning chef" to someone else in some other kitchen made him want to hurl, and violently. This is not a progressive enlightened thing, but it also wasn't a choice. The image of her being hassled by some other man, cornered, yelled at, touched, anything, utterly haunted him and made every system in his body short circuit.

He realized this pattern would continue. Syd was too good, too beautiful, too special to fail to draw the attention of other men, some chefs and some trophy hunters.

And it was this realization that made all the difference. He could not and should not and would not keep that girl, wild and free, trapped in his cage for the rest of her life. That idea was worse than all the others. If she was going to stay, it would have to be by choice, because he offered her something she desired.

In his heart, he knew perfectly well what she desired and what he had been withholding, for every good reason. He wanted to keep her on the pedestal, another form of cage, for longer, but time had run out. He either needed to mark her as his, not for their sake but for hers, or he needed to send her away forever. The latter was no option at all. It would kill them both.

So instead...he would light her cigarette, and feed her his food, and make her cum. She was already so imprinted on him, as he her, they were already so entangled, he was already so consumed with her, that it was but a step and he was crossing the bridge to mine mine mine only mine touch her and die she is mine.

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I hope so......I hope the writers do it justice. And he better go off the rails alittle bit more than he did when he ignored Claire. He better live up to "I dont like how this feels" in season 5.

Carmy having Sydney withdraws after leaving the restaurant.

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I hope she put him in Time Out in Season 5. He needs to sweat alittle

HE DID THE LOOK, SHE DID THE TOUCH. SEASON 4 THE BEAR

So I was watching this scene and Sydney was talking to Carmy

He turns to look at her and says 'That's awesome'

She looks at him knowingly in acknowledgement

When he looks away she continues to talk

But her arm touches and RESTS ON HIS

She put it there

And it STAYS THERE

He doesn't say anything

Is extremely important that she's the one doing the touch.

Carmy notices everything, so why doesn't he think that this MEANS something???

Sir and ma'am PLEASE!!!

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It was so funny😂🤣. When he said "I thought you would be psyched" (about him leaving) he found out SHE WAS NOT HAPPY AT ALL. She snapped and started to yelling that he's supposed to be here (with her🤭) n Richie interrupted. I think at the very moment he realized he fked up. Like, imagine his plan to leave was because he thought she didn't want to work with him. He probably took her not signing the contract n considering Shapiros offer was a personal attack that he is a POS n she doesn't wanna be around him. Only to find out she actually wants him there with her as a partner.

It's evident that him leaving hurting her this bad was a shock to him. 😭😭

Carmy asking Sydney is that what she really wants (adding Richie to the partnership agreement) on the verge of tears, and she tells him that's what she NEEDS, and he looks heartbroken ? Good, I'm sick of this man lmao

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Carmy didn't want any part of this, and once again Claire had to force him just like how she forced her way into getting his number 😭Like girl, please stand tf up and leave this man alone.

Then we see Carmy just going with the flow for the sake of Richie's daughter. And Claire had to be all up in his personal space lol. Carmy lowkey looked annoyed lol. But, I might be delulu cause she gets under my skin.

One thing is for sure.....Carm is not thinking about Claire. He's too preoccupied trying to figure out how to work the Kitchen without Sydney, how it's gonna go when he tells her he's retiring, and to get the hell out from underneath that crowded table.

The way she says his name is poetry!🥰🥰🥰

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Claire is always in his panic attack adding to his suffering.... like whyyyyyy?!!!!

Carmy looked so broken. It's absolutely hard to watch him go through this.

He couldn't even put a sentence together. Saying random things that didnt make sense.

Then Richie and Syd pop up to the rescue.....got me wondering if Carmy was looking around for Sydney (his source of calmness). Cause the moment she walked up to him with Richie.... Their eyes locked. His eyes were glued to hers. Like he was silently begging her to save him from his panic attack. He tried thinking about Claire, but it made his panic worst. It was sooo painful to watch this episode. Carmy just seemed like he was being tortured the whole episode. The only time I saw him breathe was when Syd walked up to him to see if he was Okay.

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Sydney's face had me crying!! 🤣😂🤣😂 She makes the cutest face expressions.

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It would be really nice if Tiff's husband and Chef Terry could be a silent investor for The Bear. I'm sure they have the money to help a bit. I want them to keep The Bear so Syd n Carmy can continue the angst in season 5 lmao.

I really wanna see how Carmy is gonna handle Syd not being close to him anymore becus of his decision. I just know she's gonna distance herself from him. Like she's only going to consult Richie and Sug and then ask them to pass on the information to Carm. I want her to be sooooo petty his head will spin. I want him to worry when he's talking to Claire...... bring up Sydney's name every 5mins. I want Carmy to have no peace. That's the only way he's gonna realize who really gives him peace.

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Agreed! She basically carrying the whole family on her back😭😭😭

sydcarmy nation how do we feel about Donna liking syds company for the same reason carmy does?

Syd treated her with a kindness and normalcy no one else was able to because they knew of her past antics.

Her convo with cousin michelle was so stiff and uncomfortable, but she was put at ease talking to this complete stranger. sydney adamu the light you bring to the entire berzatto family just-

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I'm still wondering how season 5 is gonna play out. Bcus Syd was starting to share stuff with Carmy again. Now, with both of them having this big ass fight n him telling her he's leaving. Season 5 is going be tense af.

Syd feels like he's abandoning her. So she's probably gonna distant herself from him in szn 5. No more Dad updates or banter or closeness while prepping. Just straight up acquaintance n pettiness. It would be nice if Tina telling Carmy about the fight she had with her husband was foreshadowing the Sydcarmy fight in the end. If it was I wonder who's gonna fold. Are they both gonna be restless n sleepless. I lowkey want alittle more angst.

"Please tell me you're not quitting too"

"It depends"

The way he says "[Depends] on what?" faster than the speed of sound. He would get her whatever she asked for.

And then Carmy says "if that's what you want" and Syd gives him this deadly glare of absolute loathing that says "what I want is you but apparently I can't have that for reasons I don't really understand so I will have to satisfy myself with what I need. Also, fuck you."

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Yesss. And I love that he finally got the chance to actually tell her for real "I'm thinking about you" she's constantly on his mind

He said it through his action when he got her the chefs Jacket, the clever spoon, and kept yelling her name in the freezer in season 2. She floods his mind, but Carm doesn't know how to organize n group his feeings properly. So, I think someone really close will have to hit him with the truth..... kinda what Tina did to get him to stop changing the menu every day. I'm praying its Tina or Sug or His Mom who expose his true feelings for Syd.

So that's what's going on in Carmy's head at the end of episode 2 when he's staring at Sydney. Got it. Chris Storer you’re so….

Those songs choices are done on purpose 🫠

Mystery Achievement - The Pretenders🎶