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salethe2 · 2 months ago
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Honestly yes!
EMMY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
the loumand argument in full
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salethe2 · 4 months ago
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Okay but if Armand doesn’t laugh like this at least once, melting Daniel’s heart, I’m rioting.
armand had been so delighted, laughing and laughing like a schoolboy as he sat watching, with folded arms. it was the first time daniel had ever heard that soft, silky laughter. so seductive. he got drunk as fast as he could.
— the queen of the damned.
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salethe2 · 4 months ago
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Okay, but after that teaser, I need Armand to go viral next season. Imagine people doing a Team Lestat, Team Armand like they did with Twilight. Meanwhile, Armand is completely oblivious to it all until he goes hunting and his victim is fangirling hard, asking him to sign their neck. And Armand's just like…🧍‍♂️
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salethe2 · 4 months ago
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I need to see Armand like this next season. In crisis, cutting his hair everyday even though it grows back because he’s just that dramatic.
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salethe2 · 5 months ago
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Armand after being thrown out of the apartment.
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salethe2 · 5 months ago
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Okay, so here’s my theory on why Daniel’s eyes shift from blue to orange, matching Armand's.
The fact that we’ve never seen vampires’ eye colour changing in reflection of their makers makes me think that something about Daniel’s turning was... unusually imperfect. Making a vampire isn’t exactly a precise science—there’s a lot that can go wrong, especially for younger vampires and those that never made a fledgling. Consider this: Armand, despite being 500 years old, has never turned anyone before. Undertaking such a task at his age for the first time? That's bound to be tricky, given the immense power that must be managed and transferred. This makes me think that maybe Armand made a mistake—perhaps he gave Daniel too much blood, or didn’t drain him sufficiently, or something else along those lines went wrong. This might also be a unique side effect of Armand’s blood and his age during his first turning.
Regardless, this anomaly could mean that their bond is profoundly stronger than that of any typical maker and fledgling. If Armand truly turned Daniel out of spite, it’s unlikely Daniel would be seeking him out. Old man Daniel seems exactly like the type to say, ‘fuck it, I’ll figure this out on my own’ rather than depend on Armand and look for him, at least for a long while. Yet, perhaps because of their abnormally strong bond, he can’t seem to distance himself from Armand, who is probably just as unwillingly tethered which would explain his absence.
Anyway,I don’t have concrete evidence for this theory; it’s just a concept I love. Imagine Armand turning Daniel out of spite, only to find himself irrevocably bonded, unable to escape each other—very much an enemies-to-lovers scenario. What do you think?
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salethe2 · 5 months ago
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Okay, so instead of sleeping, I'm here writing this, but I just had to share my thoughts on episode 7 and the relationship between Armand and Louis.
I'll probably need to rewatch the episode a few more times to fully grasp everything and maybe make another post but wow—episode 7 was absolutely devastating.
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Okay, so starting with Louis… Honestly, I can’t even be mad at Louis anymore. Initially, I was yelling at my screen, wondering if he was just blind. Armand’s manipulations have become so blatant, yet Louis doesn’t seem to notice. Watching this episode, seeing how Daniel doesn’t even get angry or judge Louis or get angry at Armand like he did last episode—it hit me. Louis probably knows deep down that Armand is behind everything, but he’s in denial. Because, as twisted as Armand is, Louis feels he’s all he’s got left. And I think Daniel starts to see this towards the end of the episode. Sure, he still states the facts, as a journalist does, and makes it obvious that he knows Armand is hiding things, but he doesn’t call Armand a liar like he did last episode, he just listens, and is calm because what else can he do?
Not only is there manipulation going on from Armand, but Louis also remembers and tells the story differently from how it happened as a coping mechanism. Because as much as I’d like to blame Armand on everything, the changes in Claudia’s turning, and his fight with Lestat were done by Louis, so he is very much lying to himself.
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And what can Daniel do? What would Louis do if the last thread holding him was cut? Can Daniel do that to him? Does he have the right to do that? Would he cause him even more pain by doing that? Because as much as Louis is ignoring the obvious manipulation, as soon as it all comes to light, that bubble will burst and there will be no going back. At the same time, Daniel is not excusing Armand. I mean, the look he gives him in this scene is so telling. His voice is soft and almost surprised. "Wow, you saved Louis. How nice of you." But the way he looks at him, it's as if he's saying, "I know this is all a lie and you're the one behind all this, but I'll play along for now." I mean he could have easily just asked Louis if all of this doesn’t seem weird to him, driven that point forward more like at the beginning of the episode or last episode, but he just says “but not her” and that small sentence nearly broke the bubble of ignorance around Louis but oddly enough Daniel stops there, does not push a bit more. (I guess we’ll wait and see if this remains the same next episode).
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As for Armand…I mean, I love him, and I think he’s a is brilliantly written character because he didn’t just isolate Louis; he stripped away everything in his life, turned his heart further against Lestat, and crafted scenarios where, even if Louis confronts the truth about his manipulations, he’s still trapped. Because what can Louis do? Abandon the only semblance of connection he has left? Lestat remarked in this episode that anything is preferable to loneliness for a vampire. Consequently, Louis would rather turn a blind eye than sever the last tie he holds. Even when Louis considered ending it all—something he already tried before—Armand wouldn’t permit it. Louis can’t even challenge Armand, given the disparity in their power. So, what else can he do!!
As for wether or not Armand is a villain, I can’t really say without watching the last episode, but I will say that know it’s easy to label him as merely evil and manipulative—traits he undoubtedly possesses—but I beg to differ on the notion that he feels no remorse. Yes, he’s orchestrated some truly horrible acts, even gave himself a front-row seat to watch it all go down, but to say he harbors no regret? I don’t believe that’s entirely accurate. I think, in his own warped way, a part of him believes he’s helping Louis, possibly as a coping mechanism for his own guilt.
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As for what he did to Madeleine and Claudia, it was downright horrible and he 100% meticulously planned it all, still, I suspect a sliver of guilt does linger within him—not specifically for what he did to them, but for the essence of his actions and the hatred towards the loneliness that’s shaped him.
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I mean, we have to remember that this is a man who endured unimaginable horrors even before he was turned, and has lived in solitude for 500 years! Lestat, at 150 years old, moved a man to tears by sharing his loneliness. Can you imagine the depth of pain, loneliness, self-loathing, sadness, anger, and a myriad of other emotions this man has borne for half a millennium?
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This isn’t to say that Armand’s actions are justified—far from it. But it does highlight the devastating impact of loneliness on vampires and how it can profoundly twist their minds. For 500 years Armand has been alone and the only light he saw through that darkness was to take this half broken man, take everything he had and make him as broken as him to make sure he would always be his. Again, this does not justify his actions, but merely explains them.
All of this being said, the presence of guilt, albeit slight, likely twists inside him. Armand might reinterpret this feeling as ‘helping’ Louis, keeping him blissfully unaware of the harsh truths as a way to alleviate his own conscience. Kind of like, “I know I did this horrible thing, but there was no way around it, and I hate myself for it—for being this way. But I have to keep this man by my side for his own good and my own, by any means necessary.”
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Also, just adding this, can we take a moment to discuss the lighting in this shot? Notice how Armand's face is partially shadowed when facing Louis, yet the side that's illuminated is turned towards Daniel. Honestly loved the lighting in this entire episode.
Anyway, this is precisely why I believe Louis DID asked Armand to erase those memories in San Francisco
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And why he remove the torn pages from Claudia’s journals. Because he prefers a life of blissful ignorance over the agony of truth.
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Of course Armand willingly, and easily went along with all of this because it keeps Louis by his side, so it plays nicely into his manipulations. Still, I do believe that Louis did in fact ask him to erase those memories. Does his consent to all of this make it any better? If anything, it makes it worse. This is a man so ensnared and without any escape that he’d rather erase painful memories—those that remind him of the grim reality of his situation—than live with them. And Armand’s mind is so twisted that he probably convinces himself it’s all right. In his mind, as long as he has consent, he isn’t doing anything wrong.
Anyway, that’s all I have for now but honestly, Louis’s only real escape now is through Lestat. Otherwise, he needs to figure out how to outmaneuver the master manipulator himself—because I doubt Armand will let go without a fight.
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salethe2 · 5 months ago
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I think the worst part about everything Armand did, it’s the fact that he gave himself the best seat in the house to watch it all go down as he planned.
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salethe2 · 5 months ago
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I’ve seen a lot of takes on this scene, and honestly they’re all so interesting, so I decided to give my perspective.
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Okay, starting with Armand’s costume, which Carol Cutshall absolutely nailed. Here’s what she said about Armand’s costume design:
—“One of the things about Armand is he is so ancient and so powerful that he always presents himself as very open. Whereas some of the other characters are very covered up, he’s always very open because he really doesn’t see anyone as a threat to himself. He didn’t have any predators or any reason to be on guard, or be armoured.”
Personally, I find this design choice fascinating because, despite being a predator at the top of the food chain, vampires like Armand, especially as a coven leader, would normally need to remain vigilant. Yet, he’s completely at ease, even surrounded by other vampires.
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I mean, look at him here. Sure, it’s not the deep, open V-neck shirts he wears in the interview scenes, but his outfit is still loose and open. And he’s literally surrounded by a group of vampires he knows are plotting against him. He even has his back to said vampires and yet, he’s not the least bit nervous in either situation!
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Even with Daniel, he’s not nervous or afraid because he doesn’t initially see him as a threat.
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So, if Armand isn’t scared of his own coven—a bunch of vampires ready to kill him at the first opportunity—or Daniel, who could potentially expose all his manipulations, then why on earth does he go into full armor mode to meet a seemingly inconsequential human he’s never encountered before? He’s literally in a turtleneck, shielding his most vulnerable area for crying at loud!
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A for body language—honestly, Assad Zaman deserved an Emmy for this scene. We see Armand being aloof, a little suave and condescending, employing the whole, “I’m a four-century-old vampire; you’re just a lowly human” tactic. It’s like he’s sizing her up, wanting to understand who she is while simultaneously aiming to provoke her, curious to see how she will react.
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As for his questions, he frames them in the way you might expect a coven leader to interrogate a human he’s about to turn. Questions like, “How will you survive? Are you okay with killing people and being a monster?” It almost seems like he’s trying to make her reconsider her decision to turn, but it’s all a facade.
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Because the question he really wants to ask is the last one, and when he finally approaches it, his entire demeanor shifts.
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He sheds the suave demeanor and shifts to a more serious tone, embodying what Louis describes as his "post-apocalyptic look." He towers over Madeleine, gazing down at her in an attempt to intimidate. At this point, Madeleine's expression turns genuinely nervous, perhaps even frightened—and understandably so. Yet, she holds her ground. It's then that Armand poses the crucial question he had come specifically to ask.
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“And what will you do in a few decades when she throws herself into the fire? Because she will.”
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Now, why does this question seem familiar? It’s because Armand has previously made a similar statement to Louis. He had forewarned Louis that Claudia’s mind was bound to deteriorate over time. Now, Louis tearfully countered that Armand couldn’t be sure of this, yet part of him probably recognized the truth in Armand’s words, which likely contributed to his emotional plea for Armand to look after her.
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Armand realized then that Louis, despite his deep love for Claudia, lacked the resolve to keep her grounded, effectively sealing her fate, which seemed all but inevitable by that point. He even assigns Claudia the role of Lulu as a way to infantilize her and further break her spirit—almost as a test to gauge Louis’ reaction. Unfortunately, Louis does nothing about it, while Madeleine clearly recognizes it for the manipulation it is.
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And what does she do next? Madeleine quickly gets Claudia out of that outfit and into one more fitting for her. By doing this, she threatens Armand’s plans without even realizing it.
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It’s also interesting to note that the only time Armand is ever truly angry with Claudia is when he sees her with Madeleine. This reaction underscores the threat he perceives in their bond, disrupting his control of the situation, and here is why.
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When Armand posed the question to Madeleine about what she would do when Claudia throws herself into the fire, her response was:
“Or maybe she won’t. You don’t know. Maybe I’m what she needs to survive.”
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And the way she meets his gaze as she says this marks a shift in their conversation. Throughout their entire conversation, Madeleine often looks away and breaks eye contact, but not in this moment. Here, she meets his gaze head-on. Even though she is clearly nervous, and likely a bit scared, she holds his gaze because she is sure of her words. This is a powerful moment where Madeleine not only asserts her belief but also turns the tables—now, it’s Armand’s turn to feel uneasy.
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Of course, you don’t see it in his face, but it’s evident in his body language. The way he becomes closed off, his hand fidgeting, and his gaze fixed ahead as if deep in thought. He doesn’t even refute her.
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Even with Lestat, when he warns him about Nicky, Armand doesn’t stay silent; he confidently affirms his insights, and Lestat—of all people—clearly believes him. But with Madeleine, it’s a different story. He goes silent, not uttering a word in response. He doesn’t attempt to persuade her because he recognizes that her mind is made up, her resolve unshakable. But perhaps the words that really hit home for him were “You don’t know.” This was probably the words that sealed Madeleine’s fate because the last thing you want to say to a master manipulator and control freak like Armand is that they don’t know something. Because now, all of a sudden Claudia’s death isn’t a certainty anymore and he can’t just sit back and wait for her to lose her sanity. He must take matters into his own hands now.
Anyway, one might think that Madeleine and Claudia leaving, thereby leaving Louis all to Armand, would satisfy him. After all, one of the first things he asks Claudia and Madeleine is if they’re considering returning to Paris, and you might assume Madeleine’s answer pleased him. However, her answer doesn’t satisfy him, not after what Madeleine says soon after.
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Madeleine’s words confirm that Claudia indeed loves Louis, and because Madeleine loves Claudia, she persuades her to return to Paris despite her obvious and valid disdain for the city. This revelation proves to Armand, even if they leave Louis, Madeleine and Claudia will always remain a significant part of Louis’s life. For Armand, this is intolerable. To him, Claudia is a dangerous manipulator and a competitor of Louis’s attention.
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So even if they all lived happy, separate lives, Armand’s nature is such that he cannot live with the doubt and fear that Claudia might draw Louis away from him. Having been abandoned too many times in his life, deeply wounded by those closest to him, and left behind for others, he cannot risk experiencing that pain again.
Thus, in that moment when he speaks to Madeleine in the apartment, he decides that both she and Claudia need to be eliminated. I believe this was the real reason Armand was there under the pretense of turning her. He needed to evaluate how much of a threat Madeleine posed to his plans, and upon realizing she was basically a live grenade, he knew he needed to act swiftly to get rid of her. Because as long as Madeleine is present, so will Claudia, and as long as Claudia exists, Louis will never truly belong to Armand.
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salethe2 · 5 months ago
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I wonder if we’ll ever know just how much Armand influenced, manipulated, and gaslit what happened in Paris, or am I suppose to question what’s even real at this point? For all we know, Paris was just a fever dream, and Louis had been chilling in a European mansion this whole time… like, is Louis even real?
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salethe2 · 5 months ago
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It was literally impossible to watch S2E05 of IWTV without writing a Devil’s Minion era fic so here it is!
Summary:
Daniel is a young reporter chasing leads on a string of mysterious disappearances for his new article when he meets a mysterious man at a bar. It was just one encounter, yet he can’t help but feel like eyes are constantly watching him. Try as he might to run, he is always led back to that man.
After what happened in Paris, Armand, Louis, and Claudia move across the ocean to live in America once more. With everything that happened, and Claudia’s mental state worsening by the year, Louis decides to end things with Armand. That is when Armand meets Daniel, a young reporter who was meant to be nothing more than prey.
AU. What if Claudia survived and Armand was the one to meet Daniel at the bar?
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salethe2 · 5 months ago
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salethe2 · 5 months ago
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Armand was NOT having it in episode 4 when Louis suggested he make Santiago coven leader. And Louis actually believed him when he said he LEFT the coven? Just like that?!
Louis, babe, I love you, but Claudia was right. Love makes you stupid. This is a man that would rather burn everything to the ground than lose control. Santiago didn’t orchestra this whole thing, Armand did. Everyone else is playing checkers while this little gremlin is playing 3D chess.
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salethe2 · 5 months ago
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Will you…do the fang thing again?
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salethe2 · 5 months ago
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Me, watching AMC’s IWTV for the first time: I’ll probably fall in love with Lestat…again.
Who I actually fell in love with:
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salethe2 · 5 months ago
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This is even more messed up when you realize Armand assigned her the role of Baby Lu specifically to accelerate her mental deterioration.
In fact, I’d go so far as to say that Armand was reading her mind or her journals and used them as inspiration to write the play’s script. Yes, Lestat was terrible to her, but Armand attacked her where it really hurt, because didn’t want use her as a pawn to get to Louis; he wanted her out of the picture entirely.
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Claudia + Birds + "Baby Lulu" [insp.]
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salethe2 · 5 months ago
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INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE 2.05: Don't Be Afraid, Just Start the Tape IWTVTwT Version.
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