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When I heard that there was a rumor that Christian Borle and Laura Bell were having an affair because their chemistry was just TOO good, I didn't get it because no they're just great actors

I get it now. Because I look at David Corenswet and Rachel Brosnahan and think, "god... They're TOO good at acting in love" after every interview

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I think we need to bring the word geek back, and give it the same positive connotation nerd currently has because "you need to nerd out" followed up with showing fiction one enjoys feels so wrong to me

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Drew Clark Kent and all my coworkers reactions were "oh. Cool I guess." Except for one guy who said "you know, that also looks like it could just be me in a suit" and I had to act like it didn't hurt my feelings 😭😭😭

The reference

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Wishing future me could tell me rn that I eventually do something that gets bigger than my Scott Pilgrim artwork because I don't know if my psyche can take the artwork I made during my awful situationship to cope with my awful situationship being my only legacy online 😭😭😭

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You guys never gave me enough recognition for how funny this drawing is and I'm not sure if it's because I'm the only one who gets it 😭😭😭

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I wanna draw ship art of my oc Jayden and her stoner roommate that aren't a thing because I think itd be funny

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So my dad and I watched Superman yesterday, and today he was out briefly, and I had inspiration to draw so I looked up Superman because why not, and when my dad came back and entered the room I was drawing in, I closed out of my pinterest tab hastily because I guess I didn't want him knowing I was drawing superman but did NOTHING to hide the NAKED BODY I was drawing

Around 5 minutes later, my brain kicked in and I drew a line across it's chest and wrote "pants" and then next to it and then left it open on my kitchen counter dw guys I'm classy

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Nobody in this game has any chill

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If I had to guess probably an MSI shirt

Fuck it, scene vocaloids

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That's nice and all, but may I present you with the theory Miles has no fucking clue how to play chess he just likes the aesthetic of it

Here's the chess game he had set up in his office where there's not even a king and also not a single move takes out that damn pawn. This could be him symbolizing how even though he constantly has Phoenix cornered, and Phoenix is not even worthy of king status, he fails to win against him, but... ignore that idea.

I really genuinely don't have much standing on this theory. I just think it's really funny. Miles is kinda a big looser in my head, I love him and he is do awful at doing anything but lawyer.

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Here I made 2 alt hair versions for all the people in the notes complaining 🙄

Have to come to terms with aging and death and all, so I conceptualized what my oc would look like when she’s old (which is so say I basically changed nothing. I just made her face droop slightly, added wrinkles, and ‘thinned’ her hair)

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Have to come to terms with aging and death and all, so I conceptualized what my oc would look like when she’s old (which is so say I basically changed nothing. I just made her face droop slightly, added wrinkles, and ‘thinned’ her hair)

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I think spending 8 hours to determine if you're gay or not and ending with "im not going to think about this anymore, but I'll think about if other people are gay" counts as being reluctant to admit he's gay. It doesn't really take very long to say "oh huh yeah I like boys too" and to make it take that long shows some apprehension

And I wasnt really combating the "sister" part but using it as a segway to talk about what he says in his head as further evidence for why he might be gender-conforming, at least in the beginning

And im not talking about what the player chooses to wear I'm talking about his icon in the facist route

They couldve made you pick up clothes to think about the facist route like they do in the moralist one and have a thing about "dressing right" which would change the icon, but they didn't, so I'm arguing his clothes aren't necessarily shown to be gender non conforming in this case. Whether or not Harry is happy in this route is irrelevant

And I think it's important to restate Joyce says "there is nothing infra about disco" meaning he's not really going out of the norms even now. But yes, I will say I agree with the assessment that he is not a stereotypical badass "cop", I think Titus is more the poster for that, but I do actually think there could be an argument made that he has the potential to be a badass cop stereotype, if you pick only the badass cop dialogue choice. I am not going to argue it because I think it's a weak argument or I don't really care enough to, but I'm just saying there are always different interpretations of media one could make.

i hate when people make girl harry dubois like conventionally hot but with like wrinkles and smeared makeup. she literally would also have thinning hair and a swollen face and crooked ass teeth and shit. dont play games with me

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Butting in myself when I originally wasn't going to because I saw someone else make fun of op in a separate post for not having "media literacy" for the claim of Harry being gender-conforming and I think to write off that interpretation entirely like that is incredibly rude and lacks nuanced takes

There's a conversation you can have with Joyce, when you bring up Cindy, where she says Cindy is a part of infra-culture, alternative, while her and *Harry* are a part of Supraculture, which is the common/mainstream. Conceptualization butts in saying you're not necessarily sure you're part of supraculture and when you bring it up, and if you say you're part of "disco," she says "I assure you it was thoroughly supraculture. Nothing infra about disco." His attire is pretty normal for a man like him to be wearing if not outdated. She even says something along the lines of 'it was borderline mandatory to be disco back in the day' and so while it's outdated now, it's still not breaking any gender-norms, it's just, as you said, a show of his deteriorating mental state as he clings to some form of flashy-superdom he could've maybe had if he didn't dedicate himself to being a cop

And looking specifically at his clothes, he wears bellbottoms that go all the way down, a dress shirt with the buttons up to the top (in comparison to the smoker on the balcony's dress shirt which is entirely unbuttoned to show his chest), a funky tie, a men's jacket, and heeled loafers. None of this really screams effeminate, not even the heels, because if we look back at our 70s, it was acceptable for men to wear heels if they were men's style heels. It's like how men in the 2000s wore "guyliner" and they had to call it "guyliner" so you knew it was a totally dude bro masculine thing to do. He also doesn't wear any makeup, and arguably doesn't moisturize or maintain his hair/facial hair well, which, though should be the bare minimum, is what a lot of people mean when they describe an effeminate man (such as the Smoker on the balcony, who looks like he takes care of his appearance more.) Harry's not necessarily gender-NONconforming from his outfit alone. Especially when, if you take the fascist route, which would be the most traditionalist Harry could be, his icon is still in his disco outfit.

I haven't actually gotten Harry to call himself "sister" or "pixie girl" in the game, or if I had, I'd forgotten about it. But what has come up many times is that it's impossible to forget is Harry's internal misogyny (and sometimes feminism that seems rather performative). You can be misogynistic to almost every woman in the game I'm pretty sure, and this is actually a pretty important part of the story. The game is about a man, still so heartbroken about a previous relationship 6 years later, he drinks himself to total memory loss. He even mentions that at one point he was a feminist, presumably when he was with Dora, but his bitterness about that previous relationship is shaping who he is, causing him to call other women "carousell cockriders" and "heartless bitches" and part of his story, if you play it as such, is learning how to better yourself and heal in a broken world where true love might never come to you again. Being a man who hates women is, not gonna lie, pretty gender-conforming of him, and over the course of the game, you can break free of that, but regardless, he starts out fairly misogynistic.

Last point, you mentioned that his clothes are definitely non-conforming because disco is queer culture in the game, and while I disagree with that assessment I'm not 100% sure that disco is *not* queer specific in the year DE takes place, all I know is it used to be common, but arguably a lot of common fashion trends become queer specific after a while in real life, so I'm not going to argue against that. What I will say is sexual identity is not indicative of gender expression. Kim is a gay man and is fully aware of his queerness: He has short hair, wears a white tank top, an obnoxiously loud orange jacket, brown... um pants that I can't remember the name of, and boots without heels. He is not really gender-noncomforming in the slightest. There's a ship between him a Titus, which I bring up because Titus is another gender-conforming man that displays a lot of fragile masculinity, and yet its not impossible for him to be queer. Ruby is arguably gender-nonconforming since she's butch, but then there's also the question in all of this that if the norm for queer people is to present opposite of their assigned gender, than is it technically more gender-conforming to abide by those norms even though you're going against standard society roles. The reason there's a bear flag in our world is to combat the idea that all gay men act and dress effeminate. So maybe Kim *is* gender-nonconforming but only in the sense that he... conforms to gender norms? I'm not just trying to ramble here, I'm making a point that queerness is not entirely breaking gender norms, though I do concede that being queer does go against the standard of 'how one should act.' Even then, however, I think it's important to mention how Harry is very reluctant to accept that he is a part of the queer community, deciding to 'just not think about it.' So he's not really acting in a way not expected of him in that sense, either.

Anyway, all this to say, if it can be argued that Harry's outfit is considered 'common', its not necessarily effeminate, he has a battle with his internalized misogyny throughout the game, and that he refuses to acknowledge anything non-standard about himself, I don't believe it is an incorrect assessment to say Harry is "gender-conforming." You can still disagree with the points I've made here, I'll disagree with others, but what I wouldn't like to hear is that anyone who disagrees with any of these points made by either me or Kryaaas just "hasn't engaged with the media enough." (Which I know isn't what you were saying, Kryaaas, I'm not accusing you of that, I'm only making my argument here so it has the context of the rest of the thread) we are all extrapolating ideas and interpreting them USING the text, and constantly refusing to understand the oppositions opinions, instead dismissing it, is ACTUALLY media illiterate. Everyone who doesn't have the same interpretation as you isn't 'dumb' and you aren't intellectually superior just because you agree with something someone who articulated your argument *for* you said.

i hate when people make girl harry dubois like conventionally hot but with like wrinkles and smeared makeup. she literally would also have thinning hair and a swollen face and crooked ass teeth and shit. dont play games with me

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What the fuck

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Translating to latin be like

"STUPID WHORES, JURGEINUS LEITNER THE EVIL, EVIL WHORES, LIBRARIAN, SMOKING MOUSE, OLD WHORES, ESTIMATION, WHORES, AVATAR OF WHORES, THE GREATEST CIRCUS FELLOW, PEREGRINE, COWBOY, JURGEINUS LEITNER THE EVIL"

Here's what happens if you put the Jurgen Leitner speach through google translate like 30 times btw

Jürgen Leitner is a bit of a weirdo. Louis is a bad man, a wallflower, a nerd, a psychic, a unique designer, a perfectionist, my love, the craziest man in the industry, the evil Jürgen Leitner.

Don't tell me I have plans for Jürgen Leitner. Why does he have so many books?

If I were in heaven and God told me Jürgen Leitner was waiting for me there, I'd be sad.

If I could talk to Jürgen Leitner on a podcast, I wouldn't hear anything. But I listened to my favorite songs and watched all his shows until I was sick of them. That is, if he were still alive.

I don't know why it saddens me that he collects books, but it saddens me that he's funny.

He writes his own stories. I'd be sad if he were a rich man who was afraid of horror movies and loved science fiction.

He probably has books that would kill you. If only I had enough money to buy them.

Author: Eugene

I spoke publicly about his library in an unpublished article, but it's no longer in public view.

Where is Eugene? If he's alive, he's probably dead.

I'm so satisfied.

I want to tear Leitner apart and crush his hard, old, diseased bones with my claws. His last book was written in Old Northern Edwardian. His last book was written in Old Northern Edwardian. You lost him.

I can't stop him. But I can help you.

I want to listen to him on my bike the day Eugene dies, even the day he dies.

After a year of daily service, I can't help but admire a man who has written so many books and is so honest.

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And here if you put it in EVERY language on Google Translate

Yes yes

Suicide is shameful. That's why I died.

I met George Laden. Thank you Lord.

No, I'm going to kill you.

There are many different opinions on this list. I studied in India.

No.

Absolutely

Absolutely.

My friend couldn't change time, but he didn't die.

Thank you Lord

Thank you for sharing. Thank you for sharing.

Pray in the name of God.

He is a good man.

I cried when he died.

Look at him. In Asia and Asia. In Asia and Asia.

Here's what happens if you put the Jurgen Leitner speach through google translate like 30 times btw

Jürgen Leitner is a bit of a weirdo. Louis is a bad man, a wallflower, a nerd, a psychic, a unique designer, a perfectionist, my love, the craziest man in the industry, the evil Jürgen Leitner.

Don't tell me I have plans for Jürgen Leitner. Why does he have so many books?

If I were in heaven and God told me Jürgen Leitner was waiting for me there, I'd be sad.

If I could talk to Jürgen Leitner on a podcast, I wouldn't hear anything. But I listened to my favorite songs and watched all his shows until I was sick of them. That is, if he were still alive.

I don't know why it saddens me that he collects books, but it saddens me that he's funny.

He writes his own stories. I'd be sad if he were a rich man who was afraid of horror movies and loved science fiction.

He probably has books that would kill you. If only I had enough money to buy them.

Author: Eugene

I spoke publicly about his library in an unpublished article, but it's no longer in public view.

Where is Eugene? If he's alive, he's probably dead.

I'm so satisfied.

I want to tear Leitner apart and crush his hard, old, diseased bones with my claws. His last book was written in Old Northern Edwardian. His last book was written in Old Northern Edwardian. You lost him.

I can't stop him. But I can help you.

I want to listen to him on my bike the day Eugene dies, even the day he dies.

After a year of daily service, I can't help but admire a man who has written so many books and is so honest.