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Am I the only one reminded of certain people?
#sorrynotsorry, was in my head, now in yours 😌
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anncanta · 1 year ago
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@alma37
There is one more thing in the ending of ‘Dracula’, which probably seemed so obvious to me that I almost never said it. The point is that the final scene, the moment with sex, represents not only the expression of Dracula's feelings but – perhaps most of all – Agatha's own desire.
It's hard to explain. We saw those understandable coincidences (which are never coincidences, especially in Moffat's writing) in other episodes where Dracula drinks someone's blood. Just drinking blood is one thing, especially in order to satisfy physical hunger. Here we are not talking about hunger at all, and not about the process of drinking blood as such. We see two people between whom a very specific dialogue is going on. Very precisely and openly spoken one. A dialogue in which the words are so carefully chosen that no one is left in doubt about what we are witnessing.
Someone has already noted that of all Dracula's victims, only Agatha sees him in her dream, and more than openly in the finale. And we, I hope, will talk about this again. But it is important to remember that Dracula ‘gets’ out of his victims their secret thoughts and desires, something that they may not always admit to themselves.
Remember the conversation between Agatha and Jonathan? Jonathan is obviously ashamed of his dreams about Mina. This is clear from Agatha's words. If Jonathan had been ashamed to talk about these dreams, she would have said so, ‘There is no shame in sharing this with us. It is not only what you did in Dracula's castle that is important, but also everything you thought about and what you felt, right down to your fantasies and dreams.’ She literally says this when they return to her question about whether he had sexual intercourse with the Count. And then she suddenly drops her usual pragmatic tone and begins to talk about dreams as heaven in which we can sin without fear of being punished.
I think this is the same pragmatism, only in relation to something else – ‘stop being ashamed of your dreams and tell me about them.’ Agatha sees perfectly well who Jonathan is, and she understands perfectly well that if he decides that talking about something is wrong or ‘undignified’, he will never tell – even if she threatens to cut him into pieces. Therefore, she, like a smart investigator, uses reasonable tactics that will help her counterpart talk.
Jonathan's dream and its meaning are clear to Agatha precisely because she is looking from the outside. She doesn't notice her own infatuation with the Count – until she stumbles upon Mina's shocked look in response to the words that ‘Dracula is the best among vampires,’ and immediately corrects herself – ‘the most successful one.’ She can see a situation, though: Dracula gives the victim what he wants. And Moffat and Gatiss want us to remember this. Then this will be repeated several times, but not as clearly as with Jonathan.
In this context, by the way, Zoe's reaction is interesting. Dracula, just like with Agatha, is quite frank with her and, unlike other victims, drags Zoe ‘to his home.’ But there she reacts like everyone else – immediately manifesting her desires. ‘You are killing me?’ And, just like with the others, Dracula gives her what she wants, ‘It doesn't have to hurt.’
But let's return to Agatha. From what we've seen, it's clear that the ending is a gift for her because that's what she wanted. Whether she realized it or not, whether she thought it was normal or unacceptable, she wanted to make love to him. And he wanted it too.
That's why the ending is so harmonious. And so even those who don't like it conceptually often can't stop rewatching this part.
Such is the power of art.
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manmilkers · 10 months ago
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Dracula drinking out of Zoe Van Helsing:
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ilovecathtates2 · 2 years ago
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Little gif I did of Zoe's reaction to Dracula being Dracula, loosely based on this:
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And I'll leave these here too
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That's it for today :)
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alma37 · 2 months ago
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- Oh! Thank you! 😁
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iii. the dark compass // bbc dracula (2020)
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starmage2 · 4 months ago
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@zoe-oneesama
Thank you for the amazing job you did on my commission.
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nyacromancey · 2 months ago
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while i’m on the fucking subject dracula in van helsing (2004) was more fuckable than hugh jackman’s van helsing
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partywithponies · 1 year ago
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winterxisxcomingx · 10 months ago
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Mina Harker interacting with everyone, I love her sm.
DEMONS (2009) || Nothing Like Nebraska (6x01)
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alma37 · 1 year ago
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@anncanta I am pretty sure this wasn't the post you were arguing about but this one is closer to your way of thinking. I think.
So let’s talk about Dracula a bit more, then, and particularly the ending. I love the ending, I find it brilliant. I watched it a couple of times (or ten!) and tbh, I think it was the most carefully thought through idea of Mofftiss. Let’s see :
- If they want to do a second season, it won’t be very hard to bring back Dracula, and if they want, even Zoe. We saw stranger things on tv, didn’t we? [But nothing to do with the show, though!!]. And from that, they can play with all the consequences. Dracula not afraid anymore of the sun, or any of the old beliefs he had, for that matter. Why! That might be interesting! The consequences of Zoé being turned into a vampire : a smart woman, with the brain of not-quite-a-genius-but-close-enough, and the strength of… well! a vampire!! Probably a very angry - may I say furious?! - smart female vampire. [I’d love to see Zoé/Agatha crying bloody murder on Dracula].
[I must say I would find it particularly delicious - deliciously ironic - that Dracula’s one act of kindness/compassion/mercy backfired so completely!]
They could obviously explore the relationship between Dracula and Zoé/Agatha.
[I didn’t hear the first times, when I watched the scene, Zoe’s accent morfing into Agatha’s. I found Dracula’s reaction… most interesting illuminating.]
But, staying on the scene itself, I absolutely love, after his pavlovian reaction to the sun, how Dracula lost a lot of his swagger smugness and how the light on his face makes him suddenly look so much younger and kind of innocent. So human, come to think of it.
And just before that, how, at last, he notes the pain Zoe is in. Like he has a new awareness of his surroundings (which he has) or reborn in some way.
As for the sex scene at the very end, I didn’t understand the complaints about it. It would have been difficult for a strong-headed nun, and then a strong headed doctor to have sex with her worst enemy, whatever the amount of attraction between them. However, as far as I remember, Dracula says himself at one point that he makes his victims dream so they don’t struggle… or is it so they don’t taste bad?
Anyway, it makes sense, at least to me, that when he is going to die and take Zoe with him that it is in the most confortable satisfying way. For the both of them. And we can argue that  it might have been Agatha’s fantasy all along. Where did I read, they have a shakespearian end? It’s a very apt description actually.
Sometimes those two ( Mofftiss) have a stroke of genius, and for me, the end of episode 3 is one of them.
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Why do we have so little fanart? 🥺
I found this one on Pinterest (artist wasn’t mentioned but not my work!) but surely, when I see how many beautiful and creative things are being made out there, we must have some creative peeps too?
Been thinking of making a Dragatha fb page but I would like some more - credited! - art to add.
Just…throwing it out there, am at home sick and have too much time on my hands 😅
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anncanta · 2 months ago
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Play with fire
Fandom: Dracula (2020)
Characters: Count Dracula, Agatha Van Helsing, Zoe Van Helsing
Relationship: Dracula/Agatha Van Helsing, Dracula/Zoe Van Helsing
Rating: Mature
Music: Sam Tinnesz 'Play With Fire' (feat. Yacht Money)
All rights reserved by BBC, Netflix, Sam Tinnesz & Yacht Money
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katerinaaqu · 3 months ago
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Little fun fact: in my story Survivor's Guilt and Survivor's Duty I based Odysseus's lament for his lost men and his panic being alone in the sea off the amazing actress Zoe Saldana in her portrayal of Neitiri's lament off the dead body of her son
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I believe you can see the dialog parallels
"No Great Mother! No Great Mother! Oh, my son!"
"Athena...no Athena! No Athena! No Pallas not my men! No!"
That phenomenal acting was in a way what I needed for the absolute terror of losing everyone you have left and be left alone to fight the sea (I also took some elements from other laments even from the classic early 2000s movie "Van Helsing" and the acting of Hugh Jackman as Van Helsing holds the body of Anna Valerius).
The fast pace of escalation of her lament (in harmony with palpitations of heart or someone literally rasping for breath when they hyperventilate) was what I needed for that moment for Odysseus given the situation he was in and how his faith is just a lament now. Odysseus doesn't believe that Athena would even be able to do anything in that situation but he prays to her out of seer instict for there is nothing else he can do. And that part helped me a lot to imagine what he would do.
He prays, fists the water as if he expects to dig in it or pull someone out of it and cries and screams for there is no one around and he no longer can or needs to hide his emotions which he had to for most part of his trip in my opinion so that he would remain strong for his men. In one way his emotions break loose when he realizes all was for nothing and that he lost every single person he had left and he himself is alone out at the sea. In one way I thought his emotions would just break loose. He was strong way too long and he just had more than anyone could take. In one way that was also so that it would lead to his breakage emotionally in Ogygia when he is imprisoned but in a way when he breaks once and puts himself back together he builds up his strength and determination to go back to his house.
It also helps himself to release some of his emotions first then even if he was severely traumatized he tries to collect himself in Ogygia and finally fighting the sea once more to get to Scheria and there he actually built up enough strength inside him to narrate his story and give out the gruesome details of his arduous trip (or almost all of them because he doesn't really speak of his experience in Ogygia apart from the fact that Calypso had him imprisoned and wanted him as her husband)
You can read that first part here:
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ilovecathtates2 · 2 years ago
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Just Bloxham and Dr Helsing being pals™
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And Bloxham entering Dracula’s home after the final scene
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transgenderswagcompetitions · 6 months ago
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Okay! So I don't have an official bracket yet, but I finally got every character written down and determined who will be automatically going on to Round 1 and who will have to compete in preliminaries. Everyone automatically moving on to Round 1 had more than 1 submission, while everyone in the preliminaries only had 1 submission.
I will put together an official bracket tomorrow, but here's the list of competitors!
The characters automatically going on to Round 1 are:
Alex Fierro from Magnus Chase and the Gods of Asgard (4 submissions)
Shi Qingxuan from Heaven Official's Blessing (2 submissions)
Cheery Littlebottom from Discworld (2 submissions)
Nimona from Nimona (2 submissions)
Elle Argent from Heartstopper (2 submissions)
Eolo from The Raven Tower (2 submissions)
Anthony J. Crowley from Good Omens (2 submissions)
Kade West from Wayward Children (2 submissions)
Kel Brezon from Machineries of Empire (2 submissions)
The characters that will be competing in the Preliminaries are:
Rafe from Viscera
Rafe from The House of Whispers
Ash from DIE
Ash from Girl Haven
Jerico Soberanis from The Toll
Nadir from The Thirty Names of Night
Holly from The Mellification
Petrichor from Saga
Kazuhito "Kirito" Kirigaya from Sword Art Online
Aster Vanissen from Witch Boy
Sherlock Holmes from Sherlock Holmes
Vess from Invisible Kingdom
Tonkee Innovator Dibars from The Broken Earth Trilogy
Ben Van Brunt from Horseman: A Tale of Sleepy Hollow
Shuos Zehun from Machineries of Empire
Villy from Basil and Oregano
Valentine Weis from World Running Down
Howl Pendragon from Howl's Moving Castle
Hero from Something's Not Right
Dominic Seneschal from Terra Ignota
Firestar from Warriors
Enjolras from Les Miserables
Beatrice from Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Axolotl from Wings of Fire
Isa from Transmuted
Inspector Javert from Les Miserables
Addy from Basil and Oregano
June Egbert from Homestuck
Alto from Your Mind is a Terrible Thing
David from Dark Currents
Monique from The Worm and His Kings
Viola Carroll from A Lady for a Duke
Will Avery from Names for the Dawn
Qven-and-Reet from Translation State
Syd from The Heartbreak Bakery
Claire/Claude from Baker Thief
Cersei Lannister from A Song of Ice and Fire
Will Treaty from Ranger's Apprentice
Starflight from Wings of Fire
Yadriel from Cemetery Boys
Zila from Aurora Cycle
Kaladin Stormblessed from The Stormlight Archive
AR/Lil Hal from Homestuck
Zoe from Sleepless Domain
Sera from Angela: Queen of Hel
Max Owen from Magical Boy
Jonathan Harker from Dracula
Diana Wrayburn from The Shadowhunter Chronicles
Abraham Van Helsing from Dracula
Never from Skulduggery Pleasant
Benji/Benjamin from Hell Followed With Us
Brick from Warriors
Sidra from Wayfarers
Sascha Vykos from Vampire: The Masquerade
Penfield from Future Feeling
Sallot Leon from Mask of Shadows
Ieshwi from The Stormlight Archive
Vriska Serket from Homestuck
Orlando from The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Spencer Harris from The Passing Playbook
Jane Crocker from Homestuck
Lupe from Four Leaf
Trina Goldberg-Oneka from The Seep
Cassandra Igarashi from The Wicked + The Divine
Aya Burnstein from Dancing in the Devils Auditorium
Lucus from High Class Homos
Merlin from The Left Handed Booksellers of London
Nightheart from Warriors
Sol from Dead Collections
Max from Magical Boy
Artemis Fowl from Artemis Fowl
Teo from The Sunbearer Duology
Wanda from The Sandman
Tal Smithson from Time to Orbit: Unknown
Petey the Cat from Dog Man
Captain Artemisia Blastside from Piratica
Rosa from Threads That Bind
Alter Boi from House of Whispers
Wegg from Be Kind, My Neighbor
Loki from Loki: Agent of Asgard
Scorn from Emergent Properties
Alanna of Trebond from The Song of the Lionness
Marcia Overstrand from Septimus Heap
Sage from Strawberry Seafoam
Jules from The Chromatic Fantasy
Peter Parker from The Amazing Spider-Man
Razia Khan from Stealing Thunder
Dipper Pines from the Gravity Falls comics
Mel from Something's Not Right
Hero Shackleby from American Hippo
Kino from Kino's Journey
The Marquis de Carabas from Neverwhere
River Runson from The Melting Queen
Jonathan Morgan from All the White Spaces
Leigh Hunter from Grey Dawn
Xada from LoveBot
Ienaga Kano from Golden Kamuy
Viola/Cesario from Twelfth Night
Silas Bell from The Spirit Bares Its Teeth
Let me know if I accidentally have a character on this list twice! Also let me know if you see anything misspelled or under the wrong book or series. Basically, let me know if I've screwed up lol
Thank you all for your continued patience!
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didireadthisright · 4 months ago
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A random rant about Dracula
Disclaimer: some BBC Dracula spoilers
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Right, so after a good year, I've decided to rewatch the 2020 bbc Dracula show because it's still on Netflix, and I had a really good time watching it the first time.
Can we all agree that this show would have 100% gotten a season renewal if the third episode just never happened and shows like BIG MOUTH didn't hog the spotlight? Like Claes Bang as Dracula was such a fantastic casting choice. I adored Agatha Van Helsing (I just love a faithless nun trope). The costume and setting design are just so detailed. I would have loved to see how Dracula would have prowled around 18th century England!
Don't get me wrong, there were some good bits in the third episode. How Drac navigates the modern world has its humorous moments, and Zoe was nearly as much of a joy to watch as Agatha. But overall, I feel like the direction taken was poorly executed. It almost felt like a bit of an afterthought compared to the first two episodes with the amount of plot holes it had (granted, the first two episodes had the original book to use as a reference, whereas the third was complete fan fiction at this point). I feel like the murder mystery portion of the second episode should have become more prominent in the show because it's just so fun and so frustrating watching the villian get away (insert the NBC Hannibal show).
Overall, I really enjoyed this series, I wish the fandom was a bit more alive, but I also understand why it is quite well... dead. There's a lot to love and a lot that is pretty meh due to awkward writing. I think if the show settled with ONE timeline throughout the series and then bounced around for flashbacks, that would have been a lot better.
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That's my rant. Thanks for reading if you got this far. Your sacrifice of time and braincells is very much appreciated. Who knows, maybe if I'm motivated enough, I might attempt to write my own fic to finally give my mind some sense of closure when it comes to this show.
BYE
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