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What do you think was Stan's fate in the Better World Timeline?
Ooh, very interesting question! Thanks for the ask and sorry in advance for the enormous answer you’re about to get, hahah ❤️
So, to begin answering that (I promise I will eventually!), I have to first point out that what always caught my attention in Ford’s Better World description in the journal is that not once he meets his parallel self. On that hangs my entire analysis.
Instead, he gives us a reason why they didn’t meet: parallel!Fiddleford explains that he had been leading a portal expedition to a certain dimension, but one of the security officers ran into his parallel self and as soon as they touched hands, the entire dimension started to warp and fizz with static. Fiddleford and his team barely escaped alive!
But that’s the thing: as soon as they touched hands, only! Not as soon as they saw each other, or as soon as they were in the same room together, or as soon as they talked to each other, like you sometimes see in fanfic! No, it very much required actual skin-to-skin contact. You would think that Professor Stanford Pines, celebrated star of the scientific community, founder of the International Institute of Oddology, and our Ford, 12 PhDs (or a few less PhDs at the time) would have enough sense and self-control to... just not try and touch each other? Or, for security reasons, stand at least a few meters away from each other? If they feared an accidental touch so much, they could have talked through a glass panel or some kind of physical divide. I do believe every Ford must be a deeply curious individual, and you’re telling me that parallel!Ford, known genius, wasn’t capable of creating a way to enable himself to interview his parallel selves safely? Wouldn’t you be very curious to meet your parallel self? I think it’s more likely than not that other versions of Ford would end up pushed through the portal, so our Ford might not even have been the first Ford to visit that dimension.
But instead Fiddleford goes so far as to detain our Ford and hold him captive without even attempting to explain things first! A bit overkill, no? You could say, “but Bunny, Fiddleford just didn’t want impulsive, reckless Ford to go and run to his parallel self upon seeing him for the first time!” But herein, my friend, lies the crux of the matter: even after Fiddleford explains things to our Ford, even after our Ford understands he couldn’t touch his parallel self... He still doesn’t meet or talk to parallel!Ford. Wasn’t he trusted enough/allowed to do so, even then?
My Doylist explanation (that considers what led the author to choose a certain path) to that is: the writers just didn’t want the two Fords to meet and wanted to leave it ambiguous. It’s really not that deep 😭
My favorite Watsonian explanation (in-universe headcanon) to that is: Fiddleford didn’t want them to meet 😏
Now, would Fiddleford ever lie to Ford? Yes. In fact, he already did, in our original timeline! Ford asked him to destroy the memory gun, Fiddleford apparently agreed. “He was crestfallen by my advice, but after some discussion he came to see the wisdom in it. He said that he didn’t want to risk forgetting his wife and son. I ordered him to destroy the gun, and he did.” (“Ordered”... Oh, Ford, never change...) Reality: Fiddleford hadn’t destroyed it at all, and in fact used it on Ford to erase his memories without Ford’s consent or knowledge.
So even though I don’t think this was, necessarily, either Alex’s or Rob Renzetti’s intentions, I like to think parallel!Fiddleford was bullshitting our Ford a bit. To which extent, I don’t know. The thing about the parallel selves touching and causing a dimension to end might very well be true (in fact, according to Alex’s Word of God, it is! he has said on Twitter that parallel selves really can’t meet in their home dimensions, but can meet in the in-between spaces!) BUT because of the reasons I explained above, it’s my headcanon that it wasn’t the main reason why Fiddleford didn’t want the two Fords meeting.
I just love, love the vibes of A Better World. I love how utterly smitten with that world our Ford is. He describes himself as “drawn” towards the Institute “like a moth to a flame,” and mentions his desire to “revel in [his] parallel self’s success.” He’s utterly smitten it with it despite never once meeting his parallel self. He imagines his parallel self as the happiest man on Earth despite never once meeting his parallel self. He leaves that dimension sighing wistfully despite never once meeting his parallel self. I love how parallel!Ford is just... shrouded in this very ambiguous mystery. It all sounds a little bit ominous to me. Is he happy? Is he satisfied? Does he like what he accomplished?
Our Ford, of course, imagines that he is. Our Ford doesn’t even wonder about parallel!Stan, because that’s who Stanford Pines is: self-centered as all hell, hahah. His brother doesn’t even cross his mind, since he’s too busy being dazzled by his apparent great success and the fulfillment of his dreams! I think he subconsciously assumed parallel!Stan must have been fine.
What do I think happened to parallel!Stan? Oh, well, he’s very much dead 🪦💐 And parallel!Ford, the man Ford believes to be so lucky, is actually miserable. Fiddleford was merely protecting our Ford from the truth.
If you want to get a bit darker, just look at this excerpt from the Not What He Seems script:
Meanwhile, in the Lost Legends comics, Ford is saying shit like this:
We stan an insensitive king who is utterly and blissfully oblivious to his brother’s dangerously low self-esteem and borderline suicidal thoughts ❤️
Before TBoB, I might have been reluctant to think something so dark could happen in GF, since it still is, after all, a cartoon for kids, and Stan’s a main character! But then TBoB went and revealed to us that Dipper and Mabel died horrible deaths in all the other timelines! 😭 And while I do take that with a grain of salt because it was revealed to us by Bill Cipher and Bill is not trustworthy but a professional liar, just the fact Alex acknowledged and played with the possibility of the two protagonists dying horribly is already pretty telling in and of itself...
I think that once parallel!Ford called Stan after a decade, unwittingly gave him hope, and then ripped it out from his hands... Yeah. We know how Ford is important to Stan. Reconciliation with Ford might very well have been what was pushing Stan forward. Stan can be very, very stubborn — working on a portal for 30 years — when Ford is involved. But having no Ford at all...
Parallel!Ford might have planned to call Stan back, but by then it was probably too late. So yeah. I like to imagine that parallel!Ford would be, ironically, so, so jealous of our Ford’s happy ending with Stan.
Actually, as I type this, the funniest idea occurred to me. The real reason Fiddleford didn’t allow the two Fords to meet is that parallel!Ford, upon listening our Ford praise his accomplishments and shit-talk Stan (“I can’t believe Stanley listen to you! He’s so stubborn, so selfish, he never listens!”) would disregard all reason, all training, and all self-control just for the precious chance to punch himself in the face. Dimension ending catastrophe? A minor detail.
#stancest#younger stans#in a way#since i think stan died young#ouch#the bunny answers#the bunny analyzes#stancest meta#and adding to this#i confess i also like to imagine that parallel!fidds was protecting ford#not only from the truth as i said#but from a very unstable man#that went a bit mad with grief#i have an au in my head#and one day i might write fic about it#that if parallel!ford met our ford#he would want to take his place#to have our stan for himself#morally ambiguous scary ford you’re sooo sexy 🫦
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Wanted to make some supportive Ford
#gravity falls#stanley pines#stanford pines#stan twins#sea grunks#my art#sketches#stan pines#ford pines#chibi stan#chibi ford#I get really emotional thinking about how ford would take any opportunity to tell stan words of encouragement#or general words of support#mainly because stan did that so much when they were younger#and now it’s ford’s turn#ford just being like: this is my brother all look at him look how great he is#i’m sorry i’m emotional lol
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xin mo did not become the demonic op sword of all three realms for this!!! for @kawouwu who asked for binggeyuan sillies! thank you for your donation to svsss' gotcha 4 gaza!
#scum villain#svsss#shen yuan#bingge#bingyuan#binggeyuan#shen qingqiu#mxtx#my art#donations may be closed but many of the listed campaigns are still going!!!#sy's younger sister is a kpop fan and takes full credit for giving lbh the idea to make that sy-themed trinket on xin mo btw#i like to think that lbg and her get along like a house on fire#he brings top tier skin care and misc beauty products from his realm#while she shares embarrassing stories of sy's childhood and baby pictures#i covered lbh's speech#but he's basically saying how sy has a shrine dedicated to him (pidw merch)#and clothes bearing his mark (pidw limited collabs with clothing brands)#so it's only natural that he too should carry a symbol of his devotion to sy#you know#as an sy stan
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🎀 How I be staring at that older man who doesn’t just lust over me and actually loves me, knows how to treat me, babies me and respects me in every way (he doesn’t exist) !!! 🎀
#coquette#dollette#lana stan#lizzy grant#older guys#older man younger woman#oldermen#girlhood#hell is a teenage girl#lana is our queen#daddy’s wh0re#daddy’s babygirl#daddy's good girl#daddy k!nk#age g4p#baby#blair waldorf#i love old men#olderforyounger#older male#older is better
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Part four of old GF sketches
The twin thing, Stan and Ford edition
#fanart#gravity falls#stanley pines#stanford pines#i saw a lot of posts pushing the big/little sibling titles on these two when I was drawing this#i won't say it's irrelevant to their characters#(though it comes up way less with Dipper and Mabel)#but as someone with a twin and other siblings very close in age#I've only used 'big/little' instead of 'older/younger' as a joke#other families definitely care more than us#so my opinion is that Ford cares very much about being the 'older' sibling that sets the example and has a respectable title#and Stan has never thought about Ford in these terms in his life#being in their late fifties/sixties just makes it worse for him
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they make me feel unwell
(continued: Stan & Young Ford)
#the flip side is that Grunkle Stan and Young!Ford are really funny to draw. But these two? I think about them and start sobbing#anyway been trying to draw a little Time Travel AU stuff. specifically The grunks meeting their 30-something-year-old selves#oldies in the 80s AU#if you will#its like god imagine being completely no contact with your brother and then BAM a guy who has the EXACT relationship you want shows up#and he's being really nice to you and you're pretty sure you've passed out and this is a dream but you really dont want to wake up#and on Ford's side he is suddenly face to face with this really beat up younger version of his brother and its like uh oh! Guilt!#Best behaviour time. cannot be ribbing this one like he would've been if Grunk Stan got injured.#Which only adds to the whole 'I'm bleeding out after being beaten up and this is a fever dream' feeling on Stan's side#cw injury#cw blood#i mean drawn and cartoony but still#gahh kinda want to completely redo this from scratch but tis what it tis#Gravity Falls#Gravity Falls time travel AU#time travel au#is time stuck a specific thing or general term for time travel in the fandom? I feel like its a specific thing.#like how iirc twins in time is when its the baby stans with the older ones. but idkkk idkkkkkkk!!!#GF Fan art#gravity falls fanart#fan art#fanart#Ford pines#grunkle ford#stanford pines#stan pines#stanley pines#mullet stan#young stanley pines#my art
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A lil' gift to the best father figure boss :]
Originally, I wanted to make a lil' comic, but I just don't have the energy for it. So instead, I'll write what I wanted the comic to be about here.
Basically, I was reminded of a moment in the Lost Legends comic, where Soos hears sobbing and said how he recognized those sobs- which then showed that it was Stan sobbing.
The lil' comic I wanted to make was gonna be set maybe around a year into Soos working at the Mystery Shack. After it had closed for the day, Soos had gone home to eat dinner with Abuelita. After they're finished, she gives Soos a gift for him to give to Stan as a thank you for the fair amount of money he pays Soos for his work and for being there for her lil' Soos when his father just isn't.
When Soos arrives back at the Mystery Shack, it's ofc closed, so he just let's himself in with the keys Stan had given him not that long ago. He calls out to Stan when he doesn't see him in the gift shop, but gets no answers. Making his way through the building towards Stan's office, Soos hears the faint sound of sobbing coming from there. Knocking on the door to the office and calling out that it was just him, Soos gives Stan enough time to compose himself before he enters the office.
Stan cuts to the chase and asks why Soos is here when he saw him leave earlier after his shift was done, to which Soos presents him with the gift from him and Abuelita. Soos tells him about the reasoning behind the gift while Stan just stares at it in silent surprise before finally opening it and finding home baked cookies. Finally, Stan smiles and gives Soos a lil' thank you- and asks him to forward that thank you to Abuelita- for the gift, and it makes Soos smile in turn.
#Decided to have Stan wear the question mark shirt (that goes with the red bowtie and jacket we saw for a moment in A Tale of Two Stans)#And also have Stan look a tad younger. while Soos looks a tiny bit older than he was when he started working at the Mystery Shack#my art#Soos Ramirez#Stanley Pines#Gravity Falls#Gravity Falls Fanart
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"And now I know why! He hates me!"
#first part of the two parter finale where the main character is super reluctant to go on a rescue mission to save him from bill#and ends up punching the main villain in the face in the next ep to save his twin my beloved#dreamscaperers and w3 parallels with dipper and stan is so important to me#dipper pines#stan pines#stanley pines#gravity falls#people always goes on about how stan sees ford in dipper but im just!!!#it's important that he sees himself in dipper too!!! it's super emphasised in dreamscaperers and scaryoke!!!#also him knowing that dipper wasn't going to take his secrets and lies well in nwhs even before the agents showed up#not knowing that dipper would immediately forgive him once he learns he did it all for his twin#cos dipper would do the same for mabel#they're the protective younger angry sweaty twins who care for their sweater twins!!!
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#lana del ray aka lizzy grant#lana is god#lana unreleased#ultraviolence#i love lana del rey#older man younger woman#just a girlblog#lana core#lana del ray aesthetic#lana stan#pinkcore#pink#buffalo 66#ldr lyrics#older is better#i love old men#oldermen#ldr blog#ldr community#ldr moodboard#girl hysteria#lizzy grant aesthetic#lizzy grant unreleased#this is what makes us girls#older guys#girlblogging#girlhood#girlblog aesthetic#gaslight gatekeep girlblog#girl boss gaslight gatekeep
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teachers pet<3
#ldr#ldr aesthetic#lana del ray aesthetic#lana core#lana del ray moodboard#older man younger woman#beauttiful girls#girlblogging#this is a girlblog#coquette#teacher crush#teachers pet#daddy’s babygirl#daddy issues#older man <3#olderforyounger#age g@p#older is better#older male#lana stan#lana is god#ldr moodboard#ldr blog
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Hey! It's been a while since I posted anything. So, have this small comic based on the cousin(?) Stans au cuz I'm kinda obsessed with this concept
#I think them being younger just makes things more sad#like imagine being mentally (and physically) being tormented by an actual demon when you're like what 18?#they're just babies#idk i just wanna draw them comforting each other :'-)#also pls ignore if the art seems different in every panels#it's because this whole thing was done in a span of a week#curse my procrastinating ass#gravity falls#stan twins#cousin stans#stan bros#stanley pines#stanford pines#gf fanart#my art#artists on tumblr#fanart#gravity falls stanley#gravity falls stanford#gravity falls comic#stan pines#ford pines#gravity falls au
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How would the Bill situation go in the monster hunter pines au?
Ford would definitely still summon Bill. He’s a curious guy and so of *course* he’d read a random ancient incantation out loud still. Bill then does what he does in canon and sweet talk Ford and gain his trust, slowly turning him against his brother while also trying to keep Stanley from figuring out what’s going on
The issue here though is that Stanley can see through BS quite easily. He’s not one that can be tricked, and so he gets on Bill’s trail faster than Bill anticipated
I’m not sure how the later stuff would go down yet, but there’s that at least
It’s kind of like in my Moth Psycho 100 AU with Mogami and Reigen at first, how Reigen is under the impression that the voice in his head is his only true friend and the only one he can really trust because he’s just been so isolated
#doctorsiren#gravity falls#stanford pines#bill cipher#stanley pines#gravity falls fanart#monster hunter pines au#digital art#my art#procreate#doodle requests#new challenge: get me to draw stanley in a consistent style /silly#it’s hard bc younger stan doesn’t have the glasses that I typically use as a facial benchmark when drawing Ford#so half the time I think my younger stan looks like he should and the other half I’m like…that is a Different Man#this is Alex to Alex communication
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How I look at him after he calls me “baby”, “sweetheart” or “angel”
#dollette#older guys#older man younger woman#coquette#lana stan#lizzy grant#oldermen#girlhood#hell is a teenage girl#lana is our queen#olderforyounger#older male#older is better#hot older man#30 years old#i love old men#daddy’s wh0re#daddy issues#lana del ray moodboard#lana del rey#daddy’s babygirl#daddy k!nk#lana del ray aka lizzy grant#lana del ray aesthetic#daddy's good girl#my body his choice#big men#bunny#virg1n
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Question for your au! Obviously this takes place before Fidds sees what’s in the portal, and before Ford starts to become paranoid, as he looks younger than 28, so what’s the reason Ford calls his Stanley over? Or maybe their Ma called Stan to go check on Ford?
So it’s actually set after their whole debacle - the timeline stays the same as the og up until the moment Stan goes through the portal (he ends up going in instead of Ford this time (although there would be some other minor differences since the portal doesn’t actually work right and send Stan back in time))
Since this happens after Ford’s falling out with Bill, when baby Stan pops out of the portal he calls the one person he can trust, especially with a kid - Fiddleford.
That means that Fidds and Ford have to figure out: a) Dealing with their own falling out, b) Working on the portal that they both agree is dangerous and a bad idea, c) staying alert now that Bill is an active enemy, and d) LOOKIN AFTER A KID
#so yeah! sorry for rambling#I’d rather be in Stan’s position tbh#all he gotta do is sit tight and hang out with his younger bro that he’s missed for 20 odd years#I wonder if Bill will find his way to them as well#hm…..#ask#noodles talks#twins in time au
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#girlblog aesthetic#female manipulator#femininity#girlblogging#hyper feminine#hell is a teenage girl#this is a girlblog#just girly things#lana del ray aesthetic#lana del ray aka lizzy grant#this is what makes us girls#cinnamon girl#im just a girl#girl things#gaslight gatekeep girlblog#girlhood#girlcore#lana del slay#lizzy grant#lana stan#manic pixie dream girl#girl interrupted syndrome#im just a girl in the world#just girly thoughts#lana del rey#older guys#older man younger woman
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casual mr mystery my beloved
#gravity falls#stanley pines#stan pines#freed from the girdle...#its kinda funny how young amnesiac stan looks#the 'oh shit we made ford look way younger we gotta do the same to stan'#the stan twins being like 10 years younger than what pilot stan was planned to be is pretty funny
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