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plague-of-insomnia · 1 year ago
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What’s In A Title?: Variations on “Master” in Black Butler
旦那様・当主・ご主人様・マイロード・様・坊ちゃん
Throughout the manga, we see various titles used for Vincent, Real Ciel, and Our Ciel, with these being more obvious in the original Japanese than in translation.
This post will focus on Sebastian and Tanaka and the various terms they use at different points within the story.
I personally am not an expert on keigo (the most formalized of speech that Sebastian speaks almost exclusively in in Japanese), so I am not really going to be going into the subtleties there. (Other posts have tackled this already, and probably with more expertise than I could.)
I also want to emphasize I am only now beginning to read the manga from ch 1 in Japanese (I’ve only read bits and pieces until the most recent ~25 chapters or so), so it is possible I am missing some examples or variations mentioned in other parts of the 200+ chapters not brought up here.
However, I think we can still look at these subtle differences even if you are an English speaker who knows zero about formality levels/humble speech in Japanese. And if you’re willing to take this journey with me despite these caveats, keep reading.
旦那様・当主・ご主人様・マイロード・様・坊ちゃん
Before I get into the variations between Sebastian and Tanaka, let’s look at some of the titles used:
The variations are as follows:
Dannasama - 旦那様
Toushu - 当主
Shujin - 主人
Goshujinsama - ご主人様
“my lord” - ご主人様・マイロード
Lord Ciel - シエル様
Bocchan - 坊ちゃん
Tanaka
Tanaka uses #1, #2, #3, #6, and #7. Let’s look at him first.
Dannasama - 旦那様
Means “master of the house,” but is also a term you’d use with a boss or someone of higher status, akin to “sir” in some usages in English.
Tanaka uses this term only for Vincent, so far as I know.
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Toushu - 当主
Means “present head of the family.”
Tanaka uses this when speaking about/to Our Ciel when distinguishing him from his father, the previous head. For example, in the murder arc when he points out that it isn’t appropriate for the master of the house to be upset by a servant’s death.
Shujin - 主人
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Means “head of the household” or “master” (among other uses). This version does not have the added formality/humbleness of the versions that Sebastian uses (the go- prefix and the -sama suffix).
Tanaka uses this when speaking generally about “the master” or “one’s master,” for example, in the end of the murder arc when he tells Sebastian a Phantomhive butler shouldn’t die before his master.
Lord Ciel - シエル様
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Just Ciel + the kanji for “sama,” is how Tanaka refers exclusively to Real Ciel throughout the manga, to the best of my knowledge, when speaking to or of him specifically, individually.
Above, we see how in the example on the right (in the present), Tanaka calls RC “Lord Ciel” directly, and in the example on the left, how he refers to him that way in the past as well when not directly addressing him. (OC is “you” or 貴方 there.)
Bocchan - 坊ちゃん
Means “young master,” and is how Tanaka refers to Our Ciel almost exclusively (except for the examples above), not only before the tragedy but after. He immediately knew that Ciel was OC and not his twin, and we know this because of the address.
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Sebastian seems to have picked up the title from Tanaka, because he does not use it before they see him. Above, he even puts special emphasis on the title when he uses it for the first time. And as far as I know, aside from “my lord,” he refers to Ciel as such exclusively thereafter.
旦那様・当主・ご主人様・マイロード・様・坊ちゃん
Sebastian
Sebastian uses #4, #5, and #7.
Goshujinsama - ご主人様
Means “head of the household” or “master” (among other uses). This version does include the formal/humble prefix “go-” and suffix “-sama.”
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This is the first term that Sebastian uses for Ciel when he shifts from “you” (貴方, anata) to “master,” when they first begin establishing the contract. He also uses a variation on this I’ll explain next, but THIS version, said exactly like this, he stops using after their visit to Tanaka.
You can see in the above examples that he uses this address both before and after he assumes his butler form.
I expect that this is likely how Sebastian has referred to all his masters as I believe it’s the most humble/formal way of addressing one’s master (aside from more specific titles that may be used).
My Lord - ご主人様 ・マイロード
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Even before he adopts “bocchan,” Sebastian sometimes refers to Ciel in English as “my lord,” as Yana informs us via the katakana spelling on the kanji. Yet she still writes it in keigo, as if to reminds us of the manner in which Sebastian speaks, and that even if he has dropped the uber formal “goshujinsama,” he is, in a sense, still using it throughout the story.
Bocchan - 坊ちゃん
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As I explained above, this seems to be a manner of address Sebastian picks up from Tanaka. It seems to imply that he does so partly because he recognizes that the old man is aware of Ciel’s real identity (unlike Madam Red, who assumes he’s RC, which is why Ciel looks so dead-eyed while Sebastian is smirking).
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Maybe he does it to mock him at first, a reminder that Sebastian knows he’s a liar. Maybe he adopts it because he’s never had a young master before and decides it could be a fun change of pace.
Unless Yana says something or reveals more insight into Sebastian’s POV, however, we may never know exactly why he made this shift and stuck with it.
旦那様・当主・ご主人様・マイロード・様・坊ちゃん
And that’s my rundown of how “master” is used in Japanese by Sebastian and Tanaka, depending on who they’re addressing or referring to and at what point we are in the story. As you can see, most of it is lost in translation.
If you enjoyed this post, you may like to check out some of my other kuro translation posts, including my pronoun series, in which I explain why various characters use certain personal pronouns.
Reblogs and tips are also always appreciated!
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faggotforhierarchy · 1 year ago
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Bullying faggots is a vital part of their upbringin g and education.
At school this bully is always sure to teach faggots important skills. Like training out their gag reflex to make it easier to swallow his enormous cock.
As well as punishing them whenever they do something impolite. Like look him in the eyes or forget to call him ‘sir.’ Or forgetting to say ‘thank you sir’ when he gives his spit.
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animemakeblog · 6 months ago
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“Kuroshitsuji: Midori no Majo-hen” The TV Anime Announced for 2025
A new season, Kuroshitsuji: Midori no Majo-hen (Black Butler: Emerald Witch Arc), was revealed at the Anime Expo 2024 panel for Kuroshitsuji: Kishuku Gakkou-hen (Black Butler: Public School Arc). The 2025 release date for the anime is set.
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kristen1216 · 9 months ago
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stephydrawsart_ created this masterpiece of myself with my favorite Black Butler characters Sebastian Michaelis, & Ciel Phantomhive! #CielPhantomhive #sebastianmichealis #demonbutlersebastian #demonbutler #blackbutler #imsimplyonehellofabutler #youngmaster
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kdram-chjh · 1 year ago
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Cdrama: Mysterious Lotus Casebook (2023)
Mysterious Lotus Casebook (2023) #Chengyi #josephzeng #cdrama
Watch this video on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ziPv4RefwpU
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yourgermanmasteraleks · 1 year ago
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Who of you filthy faggots is eager to sniff my musky Vans after a hot summer day?
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starburns · 1 year ago
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GOOD LUCK ON EXAMS‼️‼️‼️
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trumpvance2024 · 2 months ago
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animemakeblog · 9 months ago
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“Kuroshitsuji: Kishuku Gakkou-hen” The Theme Songs, First Promo
AnimeJapan 2024's Kuroshitsuji: Kishuku Gakkou-hen (Black Butler: Public School Arc) special stage unveiled theme music, and the first trailer. On April 13 at 11:30 p.m., Tokyo MX, BS11, Gunma TV, and Tochigi TV will all screen the television anime, with MBS airing last.
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nemkero · 4 months ago
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kdram-chjh · 1 year ago
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Cdrama: Mysterious Lotus Casebook (2023)
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Watch this video on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t9Q2XZgZ3sE
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starburns · 2 years ago
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faggotforhierarchy · 2 years ago
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Patriarchy is the understanding that not all are created equal.
Some Men are born with power in their blood and the strength to wield it. Others are born to serve in exchange for what these Men can provide.
Equality only promotes weakness. Inferiors should always obey their natural superiors.
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canisalbus · 4 months ago
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✦ They said you were a bright child ✦
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trumpvance2024 · 4 months ago
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