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romantikdream · 2 years ago
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WWOOOOO OPENEA TU HART 4 SALBATIO
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frootloopsl · 5 months ago
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yaoi so fucking dead i just refer to them as my ocs to my friends
oh and the other one too
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dailykeiji · 11 months ago
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do u ship keiji with anyone? or just yourself (cuz yeah same)
oh i'm open to most ships involving keiji!! he's my favorite so he gets all the lovin........ if i had to pick favorites though i'd say i think keiji & mishima, keiji & q-taro (especially if it's a polycule and mai is also there) and keiji & kai are all pretty cute :)
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schwirrymartz · 9 months ago
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unbelievable, but the "you're the one who bent me over" moment is even gayer in context
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rainyr · 3 months ago
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hey uh. hey moots are any of you also going insane over poolverine rn.
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the honda odyssey, huh?
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potato-lord-but-not · 2 months ago
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Just found out Arthur Lesters Three Boyfriends is already a common tag on ao3 for the shipname and im amazed, yall are truly building the fandom comfort behemoth out of these 2 mains and these 2 who are. kind of unlikely to be seen again- (hopefully im wrong) and its so delightful for me, like hell yes go guys make that wholesome yaoi we abso fucking lutely need it...
god tahts insane that was supposed to be a joke ship name and now it’s too late ourthur lives on forever as the most out there au ever. we really do need it tho. to cope.
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thecoolerliauditore · 2 months ago
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I really liked your analysis on the discourse around flower husbands and I would like to give my personal perspective from someone who’s been here since the end of third life.
The fandom was 100% still reeling over from negative effects of no shipping in the hermitcraft fandom. The majority of life series fans came from hermitcraft as well, after all nearly all of the players in third life were hermits. You could joke about treebark and maybe scarian being gay but I remember seeing a lot of homoerotic art being tagged “THIS IS NOT SHIP ART ITS PLATONIC” and later on a few of those artists would post shipping art without fear. If you had a romantic interpretation of a relationship in third life, you would quickly chalk it up to being friends. Shipping was still uncomfortable territory for many. Maybe because they didn’t like shipping themselves and weren’t expose to it or maybe they did but was still feeling the effects from others in 2019/2020.
Flower husbands you couldn’t chalk it up to just being friends. If you didn’t like shipping you can make everything platonic but you would look like an idiot trying to say that they were “good friends” or “roommates” in third life. No, Scott and Jimmy were known as husbands, they did it themselves. Not the fans, the creators themselves. Yes there will be dramatic and angsty ship art of the two. For everyone else? Not really. Like I said, people would have to explicitly say it wasn’t ship art between Ren and Martyn or Scar and Grian. If you didn’t want that type of art you just wouldn’t look at Scott or jimmy’s tags. Simple as that.
As time went on I would say around double life shipping had coursed its way back into the fandom. Having a romantic interpretation of Treebark was fine, just properly tag it and everyone was chill. Same with Scarian, hell, I would say the shipping lens started taking over more than the platonic one lol. And with double life having soulmates, that gave the shipping culture a big boost. You don’t like it? Well it’s gonna be hard to avoid Bdubs or Impulses tags when they’re making “honey imm home!” jokes or BigB and Grian literally in their own words “cheating on their soulmate for their secret soulmate” Grian saying “I’m gonna take your man” is just fuel to the ever growing fire. If you didn’t like shipping then buckle up because double life was fruity as hell with nearly all of the creators. Mother fucking Joel Smallishbeans made a ship called “The Relations” and put Etho’s face on his skin’s shirt. You couldn’t avoid shipping at all when the creators are also the ones doing it.
So shipping is wild spread now and more accepted. As for flower husbands well you couldn’t really make the ship more than “tragic gays with fluff and angst”
Scarian you could make it toxic, you could make it healthy, you could make it whatever you want because it was never “canon”. Flower husbands was built in a time where shipping was uncertain and a lot of their early day works was either them being fluffy husbands together or tragic yaoi. To make one of them toxic it was out of the question.
I however could not tell you why it’s only Scott being the “toxic” perpetrator in flower husbands. Could be an individual’s bias and own experiences, could be how they view the creators, maybe a bit of projection or maybe they have only been exposed to toxic!scott that branching out to toxic!jimmy, something that’s extremely rare, might be hard and they don’t want to put the work in to make it themselves.
In conclusion, flower husbands was the only way you could ship in early days of the life series because you couldn’t ignore the romantic relationship Scott and Jimmy portrayed. If you did with other relationships it could easily be chalked up to being friends and if something could be seen as shipping you HAD to disclose that it wasn’t. Flower husbands was allowed but dear god if you said a king and his hand was tragic yaoi you would have been sniped.
People are attached to a ship that was the “acceptable” ship so having a negative interpretation can be viewed as bashing the ship or worse one of the creators (most often Scott) but now that it’s more open to other interpretations people are rightfully be a bit protective.
Also also if you have found any posts interpretation Jimmy being the toxic person with his relationship with Scott please do share. I haven’t seen any posts like that and I’m quite bored of toxic!scott within flower husbands shipping. I need a little bit of spice in my life you know? Anyway, have a good day.
Yeah this is pretty much what I assumed, ty for the peer review 💪
I think I didn't make my point about Jimmy clear, my bad -- my point was that making FH toxic was always discourse that reflected back onto Scott, instead of Jimmy. I don't think it's the Jimmy fans up in arms was what I was trying to convey.
I personally see Scott as abusive towards Jimmy and have held this view since my first watch of Scott's 3L POV. I feel like it's almost hard not to arrive at this conclusion if you approach it in the same way you approach other ships. i.e. I've never seen someone storyboard the "go back and get the sugar cane!" sequence from episode 1 and have it not read as anything other than that (btw if anyone knows any way of making this scene not horrifying I'd be genuinely curious)
As for toxic jimmy posting, I'm not the biggest fan of these interpretations because I operate by a different school of thought when it comes to this series and I've found some arguments for Jimmy being toxic in the past a little uncomfortably reminiscent of irl victim-blaming but that being said who am I to get in the way of people making stuff they enjoy. I'm not the FH/Scott maintag 🤷‍♂️
There's this guy who's posted a few things in the FH tag that I find fun.
Their posts range from the usual FH fluff to Jimmy cheating on Scott and Scott leaving Jimmy for someone else.
This one's a personal favourite.
I would also love it if I could summon this anon for you I think you guys could workshop smth together
But other than those specific examples I have definitely seen more vague posts that imply Jimmy mistreats Scott, you might wanna hit up the Scott/Tango shippers? Snowbugs, I think their name is? Lots of memes in there about just ditching Jimmy lol
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anotherworldash · 9 months ago
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Can I get your opinion on Inuyasha series?
it's a wonderful series! one of my earlier fav series alongside digimon, pokeani, and HxH.
beautiful love story, OST, and setting.
some things about this blog:
i love NarKik, how awesome is it that the man who wishes to kill her, and actually have killed her, held also the dearest despicable desire to protect/keep-her-alive her? (or more like his desire has protected her...)
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not into inukag vs inukik topic ( i ship both )
reincarnation concept is very close to me, as physical body is just a facade . so to me inukag is a successful representation of the love inukik once had, a prove that bond between two longing souls is eternal .
there was also no competition between kikyo and kagome. the choice was very obvious.
kikyo chose to travel alone, she didn't want inuyasha's love anymore, she wanted revenge on him(when she didn't know it was naraku all along) . kikyo knew she died and she count her days on earth only for revenge (stopping naraku). remember how she killed a monk once for interfering her plan and tried to kill inuyasha? well that ended once she knew it was naraku all along.
kikyo's tale is not of love but revenge.
and inuyasha actively chose to travel with Kagome.
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big sessrin lover, but also ship kagusess and koharin (go search the tag in my blog if you don't believe) i will not say anything much about this part, because it will be too long for answer to this ask.
big believer than inu-no-taisho (inuyasha and sesshomaru's dad) and sesshomaru's mother are SIBLING
i hate the conception that kikyo is this 'gloomy' man-stealer, the fact that she is a very sassy and funny woman. once joked that kaede is now scared when seeing her, often forgotten in the series...
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my crackships are inuyasha x ayame, sesshoumaru x kagome, rin x kagome's brother, and SANGO X BANKOTSU, sango x koga. (pleaseeee i like sangmirok but i always feel she deserves better)
my favorite non-canon but possible ship is KAGOME X KIKYO (yay selfcest!)
i dont have much yaoi ship here, just inucest...
i haven't watched yashahime , i'm just not obsessing inuyasha series anymore and i wait for my next obsession to come before i watch it
this blog was a kikyo defend blog in 2010, yes, and it still is in 2024. Kikyo is my favorite character. god this woman is sooo FUNNY. i swear audiences are missing on how hilarious her personality is. girlie is always plotting..scheming.. with menacing expression. iconic really
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djsherriff-responses · 11 months ago
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The “healthy ship” in question is between two characters who have an age gap, had one conversation and has several fan stories where the writer depicts them not having a healthy relationship
oh, and chances are possible season two will pull a Star Wars and confirm that they’re related if the Polokus comparisons are leading anywhere
I’m not gonna shame anyone for ship preferences and I’m up for media criticism but this just kinda weird? Not kinda, just flat out weird actually
It’s extremely weird people keep commenting on that Laserhawk shipping shit post with crap like “well Rayfrog is healthier-“ when the two aren’t even canon and their romantic dynamic is pure fan speculation as this point, not to mention it’s an extremely shallow view of both the characters and the show’s themes.
Yes Alex sucks ass, but to say people shouldn’t even attempt to explore Alex and Dolph's relationship in favour of a non canon ship because it’s “healthier” is just so? Dolph has so much tragedy to his character that also says so much about the environment that Dolph and many other kids who grew up like him had to experience in the setting of Eden, and Alex plays a huge part of that.
To say Alex x Dolph isn’t worth “shipping” is to basically admit you don’t care for the show’s themes of exploitation, abuse and trauma under an uncaring capitalist dystopia.
Regardless if Alex’s love was genuine, the relationship he had with Dolph was no different to how Eden used Dolph as a tool and I think that’s definitely far more interesting than just “what if Rayman makes out sloppy style with twink Globox?”
Also, you know you don’t have to ship “ethically”, right? You can have spice. Obviously criticising ships and fiction shouldn’t be taboo either but everyone is “problematic” to some degree. Please use the block button
Edit: I wanted to add now that I thought about this more is that I now realise what it is that bugs me about Rayfrog despite it being a good ship , and it’s not because it’s the most popular ship in the fandom or the two are hog 90% of tags all over the place
It’s because we got a situation where a chunk of the fandom wants to focus on Rayfrog being a wholesome ship while actively ignoring the source material is full of dark , mature and outright problematic story elements, so people who want to talk about Laserhawk’s less vanilla aspects are drowned out by people who joke about rayfrog being toxic yaoi/yuri but can’t actually handle actual toxic yaoi/yuri (wanna stress this does not apply to everyone who ships rayfrog but it’s a noticeable bias on that shit post I made)
probably also awkward that Rayman’s original series is aimed at kids so 🤷‍♀️
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australianklaviergavin · 5 months ago
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Puff / Holmes / The Great Detective / whatever else ★ They / them (or she/her, nbd really) ★ Proud owner of the most insane Klavier headcanon(s) ★ This is a sideblog! ★ Associated with my friend @/purpleleavesday ★ Tagging "#dgs2 spoilers" ★ Critter masterpost ★ Ask about my minor character server!
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I'm very chatty, so assorted trivia is below the Read More, as to not turn my bio into an eyesore. Will be updated as relevant. Asks are always appreciated!
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Total time spent in the Attorney Mines...
When I say I've been enjoying these games since I was a kid, however it's a bit false to say I've been playing them that long. I've more been watching them be played, until now, as well as observing the lawyer yaoi on my dash. This series has been a massive part of my life for about as long as I can recall, I just... Didn't quite play them until recently. I'm new-ish but I feel like it's important to point out that I really have been here a while, in spirit.
Klavier headcanons..?
There's about two total, the one in my URL, and one I'm moreso sworn into secrecy over. The one in my URL is... It's very important to me. If you see Klavier on this blog, please read him in a goofy Australian accent. My brother does voice stuff, and when we were reading for Ace Attorney, he just turned Australian and I can't unhear it.
Sholmes kinning you..?
Yeah, so... He just like me. Same poses, same catchphrases, detective as a gender and not a profession, big yellow-ish coat. Most damningly, I do unfortunately represent myself through a funny little bunny, and have since I was a small child, and it's literally just the Sholmes bunny. I'm so serious and I could prove it. Most importantly, I've been doing all this for years. It's literally just how I act! And almost always have! What! I joke about kinning him (or, in this case, being kinned by him) but it's just in good fun.
You look familiar...
HI. YOU GOT ME. Yes, it's Puff, your silly rabbit and right hand arm man. Sorry to all my main blog oomfies to which I did NOT announce this to, but hi, enjoy your stay!
Dear fellow, what in the world is happening in your icon?
Gonna make this quick or I'm gonna start crying laughing again. I sometimes use 3D models as reference, and a friend was helping me clean / rig the Sholmes model rip I had and... When he sent me the file, he did something wrong by accident..? And Sholmes ended up looking SO joyous, but he strictly did NOT do that on purpose like I thought, so we both ended up crying real tears over it. Therefore, I'm using that as a base for my icon while I work on a better one.
Mutuals* can...
By mutuals, I mean followers, really, but feel free to ask for my main if you're unsure or otherwise reach out! I don't have a lot else going on (I started playing Ace Attorney because I'm too injured for my other hobbies so any distraction is very welcomed) and am willing to chat, as long as you don't mind the fact I'm maybe a little Insane :')
Tags to acquaint yourself with
I don't keep many, but my save tag is "#case notes", my catch-all art tag is "#the deduction of art", my tag for polls is "#I can’t make bricks without clay", my talking tag is "#a study in screaming", and my asks tag is "#consultations"! Will be updating this later as necessary
The banners...
First off! No interest in men. I like to make jokes, but they're just that! I've called Kazuma "dreamy" more times than I can recall, but legit I do not mean it outside an objective context. I don't mean to be needlessly hostile, but the second is to preemptively warn off weirdos! If you're going to be Nasty or Weird (especially about characters who are minors) then please see yourself out! If you're "proship" or whatever, I don't have much interest in welcoming you to my blog.
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chilewithcarnage · 9 months ago
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for the ask game:
pavitr and hobie
spiderdads
rio morales and jessica drew
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explanation time ⏰
goldenpunk aka pavobie: makes sense as seen in the movie they've known each other for awhile and are pretty good friends. compels me in that they display a natural comfort and playfulness with each other that shows they've established a solid bond that has the potential to transition into romance. they're really cute I like them together ^_^
motomami aka jessrio: on the crux between makes sense but leaning more towards doesn't makes sense solely on the technicality of them being from different dimensions and never meeting one another. BUT do I think they would make sense together excluding these factors? Yes. Them being both confident, caring, and successful women in their line of work. rio seems like she has that typical mom humor and jess would find her jokes so corny but cute. I think they'd have some really nice banter and shade throwing about coworkers and the like with a bit a flirting thrown in. I also see jess being able to let her guard down and find comfort in rio. rio seeming to have that natural patience and compassion (probs why she became a nurse practitioner). they'd also appreciate that both of them ain't no slouch, and if they need to get rowdy when someone comes around with some nonsense, they'll do it. also also, i love me some milf yuri. p.s. y'all like the name motomami? i came up with that myself; cause the spidermoms tag was taken over by rule 63 peter x miguel. SPEAKING OF WHICH...
spiderdads aka petermiguel: hmm, where to begin with this well. also on the crux of makes sense/doesn't make sense; but I lean towards doesn't make sense because i don't see what would attract one to the other. someone one spiderverse twit said that peter and miguel don't even give off the vibes of being friends, rather just coworkers that were bonded by a traumatic event. in scenes that they share together, miguel seems more annoyed with peter's comedic nature than anything. on peter's behalf it seems like he trusts miguel (you wouldn't let somebody you don't trust to hold your baby) and doesn't have any animosity towards him. but i think that's just his usual nature, that peter parker is friendly and wise cracking when he's not he's not depressed and stressed. i know i'm gonna get hate for this but jessica (jess literally being his second in command) has way more romantic potential with miguel than peter does, and the only reason why its not as popular as peter x miguel is because its a m/f ship involving a black woman (in general the spiderverse fandom pay jess dust specifically BECAUSE she is black, i guarantee if they kept jess white in atsv there'd be way more content of them). the dynamic that most spiderdads content has is just flanderized versions of their characters where peter is constantly sexually harassing miguel and miguel is perpetually pissed off at peter (ha, bars). overall spiderdads just seems like a 'yaoi for the sake of yaoi' type ship to me. its popular because everybody loves to see two conventionally attractive men fuck. other than that, it doesn't do anything for me.
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charmwasjess · 6 months ago
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Twenty Fanfic Writer Questions Okay, this is embarrassing, because I got tagged in this like two weeks ago when I was in time zone stupor, copied the prompts out, and then forgot, and I think it was @stellanslashgeode who tagged me - if not, I will cry with embarrassment so don't tell me if I'm wrong.
And :'D I don't remember either who was tagged when it was going around, so here's some no pressure tags (and hop in if you want to play and I didn't tag you!) - @bolithesenate @calcedon79 @purple-ant @reconstructwriter
1. How many works do you have on Ao3? 
10!! :D Which is totally amazing to me. Where did they come from?! Who made them?!
2. What’s your total Ao3 word count? 
Oh god, almost 300k… I don’t have any explanation. 
3. What fandoms do you write for? 
Just Star Wars! I can only handle one frenzied obsession at a time.
4. What are your top five fics by kudos?
Sitting in the Dark, Five Days to Murder Sifo-Dyas, The Thunder Answered Back, Milk Run, and hey, aww, wow, Jedi Nights?! 
I’m a little surprised any of my Sifo-Dyas/Dooku stuff beat out anything else, it’s such a little tiny ship!
5. Do you respond to comments? 
I do, it's my favorite part. I get a tremendous amount of inspiration and energy from engaging with people who take the time to talk to me about my work. And friends, too! I have been in my fandom since I was like 11 or 12. I’ve made lifelong friends out of my comment sections.
6. What is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending? 
I'm a sucker for a happy ending so a lot of them end on an upbeat note, but I can’t imagine The Thunder Answered Back ending on anything other than a mixed note. I'm not gonna be able to undo Order 66, you know? It’s a salvage job, not a fix it. If Jocasta gets through the fic without killing Dooku, we will call it a happy ending.
7. What’s the fic you wrote with the happiest ending? 
My corny Five Days to Kill Sifo-Dyas probably has the most classical happy ending for the saga but my favorite is the one in Sitting in the Dark - Qui-Gon waking up on the couch with Rael asleep next to him, and listening to Dooku and Jocasta and Sifo-Dyas wash up after the party. That little kid feeling of being safe and sleepy with your adult family happy and laughing softly nearby. 
8. Do you get hate on fics? 
Ohhhh, if I had a dollar for every time one of my friends made some joke about me writing Count Dooku porn! But I don't care about that, if they actually read my shit, their pervert asses would become terribly addicted to it. They’d be begging at my door. “More old man yaoi! PLEASE!” (This is a joke, my local friends have been very nice about my return to fic writing and the teasing is loving.)
Weirdly, the nastiest hate comment on a fic I’ve ever gotten was in the Before era, when I was writing fic on my old teen account. It was on a young Knight-age Dooku/Jocasta one shot. It was a simple, very vanilla romantic moment with a T rating at best so I don't really get why the person was so worked up about it? I think they just couldn't get around Dooku and Jocasta (OLD PEOPLE?!?) written as young and attractive. For years, I was horribly embarrassed about the fic, like it must really actually truly suck to have someone spend so much time writing such an extensive hate comment. I must have really fucked up. 
I went back and reread it recently and realized: oh, no, it's a regular fic, they were just a fucking loser.
9. Do you write smut? If so, what kind? 
The…sex kind!!
But yes, I do! Mostly Sifo-Dyas/Dooku these days, but also Jocasta/Dooku and once or twice the holy Trinity of the three. 
I was REALLY shy about posting it at first and I still kind of can’t believe I did, but it was absurdly good for me as a person. Great for my religious purity culture baggage, my teenage years as a closeted queer person, just a really freeing experience. 
And it’s hot. And you get to think about Dooku saying or thinking the word “erection,” which is worth it just for that. 
10. Do you write crossovers? What’s the craziest one you’ve written? 
Nah, I’m boring.
12. Have you ever had a fic translated? 
Nope, but I have been lucky enough to help with the English in bringing several of Purple Ant’s remarkable works over from Russian. 
13. Have you ever co-written a fic before? 
Yep! In the Before time, I cowrote a lot, although I don’t think I posted much. One stands out: I remember this big rambling self-insert (we called them Mary Sues back then) I did with my bestie where we were transported to Star Wars world and we had to… I don’t exactly remember, but I think Obi-Wan falling in love with one or both of us was a big part? I went back and deleted it years later because it was so cringe. But that’s silly too - we were like twelve, of course it was silly and cringe! 
14. What’s your all-time favorite ship? 
I tend to be pretty fucking stupid about Syku. 
It’s just. Two people who manage to collectively destroy their own universes together. They’re so connected in such strange, powerful, frightening ways, they know all of each other’s secrets, they were there on the worst days of each other’s lives, and will go on to be each other’s worst day of their life. And the way, even as they change, they can’t get away from each other, even though they both really try, it’s like they’re stuck in two orbits that have to cross. 
And then you read the dumb book, and see that they’re just stupid funny and cute together, idiots who finish each other’s sentences and call each other little nicknames… augh, the bizarre sweetness of it?! It kills me. It’s the narrative doom, but also the weird, enduring love that has Dooku giving Sifo-Dyas a Jedi funeral or trying so earnestly to tell Obi-Wan his crazy version of events with his death, or how Sifo-Dyas goes running back to him for the Clone thing after he already knows so much about how Dooku factors into the end game... 
15. What’s a WIP you want to finish but doubt you ever will? 
I will definitely finish The Thunder Answered Back but I kind of doubt I’ll get to the two years worth of content and every individual character’s endgame storyline I envisioned out of it. I'll stick with Dooku, Jocasta, Scout, and Asajj.
16. What are your writing strengths? 
….this is embarrassing, but I tend to think I’m occasionally really funny. 
Even though my fics are really serious and I haven’t written any crack, I really try to put in moments of humor, depending on my POV character’s dialogue or internal monologue. I think my best humor comes about when I can get Dooku and Sifo-Dyas in A Situation, slinging shit back and forth. Those two just take off. 
17. What are your writing weaknesses? 
I overwrite. My fics would be a lot more successful if I tightened up and left more on the cutting room floor. I get over attached to small moments of character at the expense of the plot (and let's be honest, word count.) 
18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language in fic? 
Hmm, does sign language count? That has been really fun in Rabbit Heart. A huge chunk of the fic happens in sign language. 
19. First fandom you wrote for?
Star Wars!
20. Favourite fic you’ve written? 
It’s got to be Milk Run, by a long shot. I’m really proud of that fic, but it was just such a blast to write. It was so fucking fun. And there’s all these little moments or tiny funny things I’ve left myself in it that are probably only funny to me, but they’re so funny to me. 
….Like, so, at one point in the fic, Sifo-Dyas is pissed at Dooku because he can tell he and Jocasta have been sleeping together, again, and this always happens, and he always has to clean this mess and play mediator when it inevitably implodes (and also maybe he is in love with Dooku a little bit?). So he’s furious about it, but pretending not to be, and so he bitchily tells Dooku the name of his ship is The Haru-Spicy, as in, a cooking pun, instead of the real name, The Haruspicy. And then Dooku spends the entire rest of the fic just wildly mispronouncing the name of the ship in his own POV chapters and to other characters? 
I love to imagine him saying it, all declarative, “The Haru-Spicy!” And everyone just stares like “do we correct him… or…?” Sifo-Dyas quietly soothing himself, chuckling over this small pettiness. Cracks me up.
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elias-rights · 1 year ago
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Hello, I'm not really active in the TMA fandom, but I just want to say I really like your takes! This fandom often (sometimes jokingly, sometimes not) portrays Jon as a rather weak, small, 'pathetic' man, and that's something that never quite sat right with me. He gets attacked and thrown into perilous situations constantly by powerful, supernatural beings, doing the best he can to survive, so this feels like people are kinda mocking his vulnerability, there. What are your thoughts on this?
Hello! I'm glad you enjoy my posts. I have raged a lot against fanon conceptions of Jon, so I do have some thoughts.
First of all, as others more equipped than me to have that particular conversation have pointed out, it's very telling that Jon gets this treatment when he is canonically asexual and universally headcanonned and drawn as ambiguously brown. I haven't been checking the tags in a while, but as far as I'm aware, the phenomenon of him being constantly belittled and infantilised by the fandom (most often for the sake of JM) is ongoing.
To me, aside from the aforementioned racism and aphobia, the biggest problem is the reduction of characters to memeable traits. As a person, Jon has horrible things happen to him, is pushed past any average person's breaking point, and is implied to be physically on the weaker side. And this is a fun space to play around in. But it's (1) boring, (2) in poor taste, and (3) often carrying implicit biases (see: racism and aphobia) when they take these facts and use them to write Jon as a helpless yaoi boyfriend who is unable to bite back and who starts crying because he saw a picture of a penis online (yes, that is something I have seen).
Add to this the "Jon is so dumb, lol" jokes that cheapen the themes of the show by implying that there is a way out but that he is just too incompetent to see it (see: Archivist Sasha fix-its) and the racist jokes about him not showering or whatever, and you have concocted the Jon you see in the memes. This mischaracterization also leads to things like the wider fandom reaction to MAG 199-200, when fans dismissed Jon's perspective just as quickly as the characters, and everyone seemed to believe that everything would've been fine if Jon "just had listened to Martin".
And it's so pernicious because Jon wouldn't be alive if he weren't resilient past what should be required of him: Elias spells it out himself in MAG 160 that he needed to test Jon's ability to survive if he was going to use him as a lynchpin. Plus, he is also very intelligent (as seen when he finds Gertrude's hiding place off the creak of a floorboard in a recording), so the claims about him being stupid for not immediately grasping the rules of a horrific world when he has none of the privileges afforded to the audience don't hold any water either.
I could go on about this, but I'm already having trouble structuring the post at this length, so I'll leave it at that. As you see, this is a topic I've thought about a lot since fighting in the trenches when the show was still airing and people insisted he was an idiot, aha. Have a good day!
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kaeyapilled · 1 year ago
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Hey! :D I saw your post regarding Kaveh and Alhaitham fics so I was wondering if you have any recommendations. Correct me if I'm wrong, I think you said they're better as a yuri couple? I haven't read any wlw portrayals of them yet and I'm curious. No tags are too wild. Thank you and have a nice day! <3
hello! yes i do have a few kavetham fanfic recs!! however i am so sorry to disappoint you anon but i dont have any fem kavetham recs. i dont think ive read a wlw portrayal of them either. my apologies. the yuri couple thing was more of a joke since I was complaining about the way some people write them in this overdramatic 2000s yaoi manga way that im not super fond of and that happens w a lot of other mlm ships too. do you get me. when they make one of them (usually alhaitham) into the Dominant Masculine Man who's the knight in shining armor while kaveh is, for lack of better term, the assigned submissive and breedable one. and the entire thing is so unserious but the author isnt joking at all. and so i was using yuri as like the antithesis of that. Yeah. i AM interested in actual yuri kavetham now though so you have kind of enlightened me here.
anyways i hope my regular kavetham fic recs are good enough </3
a comedy of errors by strawberryblimp:
“My dad’s always in a hurry to head home to see my mom. They’re a cute couple like that. Kind of embarrassing at times, though…” His intern makes a face. “Anyways, I’m sure it must be like that with you and your wife too. Alright, see you tomorrow Scribe Alhaitham! Or…the day after? Next week?”
"...my wife?"
Or, Alhaitham hopes to have an uneventful day of work, followed by a peaceful dinner with his roommate. Of course, nothing goes according to plan.
this one is just haikaveh romcom. it's short and sweet and SO funny it was such a delight to read!!
...and they were roommates by warsena:
Kaveh is looking for his keys. Al Haitham is a brat. And Nahida? Well, Nahida knows her things. In words of General Mahamatra: being roommates always meant somehing more interesting.
this one is also a short delight!! it's from nahida's pov and it's so funny to look at their relationship from the eyes of an outsider
The Romanticism of Coffee-Making by sonotfine:
Alhaitham, Kaveh, the drinks Kaveh made them every morning, and Alhaitham's very deep but totally normal feelings about this domestic privilege.
Love without a name, visible only in similes and metaphors, tangible and all-consuming in the ways they orbited each other. Action for action, thought for thought.
alhaitham pining for around 3k words. so sweet. the yearning is palpable. i really like the characterization for both of them
Briars and Roses 'Round Your Heart by sonotfine:
Two fools, the impasse, and the disease that punishes the unspoken thing between them. Love is as cruel as you choose to make it for yourself. Fortunately, it takes two to love, in this case.
i hope you like the hanahaki disease trope!! kaveh has it in this fic and it's one of my favorite renditions of it ever was SO good. i loved how it developed and how it was concluded. this author is really good at writing kaveh and alhaitham
sunbird by caniculeo:
This is how Kaveh grows up—well-loved and loving, with a pencil in his hand and starlight in his eyes. This is how he grows up, until his father leaves for the desert one day, and never comes back.
kaveh, through the years.
okay this one isn't exactly a kavetham rec, more like a kaveh one. but there is kavetham!! plenty of it!! i just wanted to sneak this one into the list because it's my favorite kaveh character study, like, ever. trust me it's so good
i hope these are to your liking anon! sorry again for the lack of yuri haikaveh. i have failed you
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spacestationstorybook · 27 days ago
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didn't want an essay in the tags but just to see if i could do it all of the options on that poll (last rb) and the f/o it applies to
mischaracterization: dash in more or less every way you could think of.
ignored for not being (male): orin oh my godddd the‏‏‎ ‎bg3‏‏‎ ‎fandom has a terrible misogyny problem but it's particularly bad with her the male villains all get thirsted over constantly and essays written about them and she gets maybe the occasional "i could fix her" comment. she was traumatized by‏‏‎ ‎bhaal‏‏‎ ‎just as much as canon durge the only place she was ever given to belong resents her her life is a TRAGEDY and nobody CARESSSSS sorry. i get really sad about orin can you tell
one character trait: harder to say with this one but probably dash again
gets in the way of a popular ship: ...sylvia a little. not that fans actually dislike her but they do push her to the side for yaoi near constantly despite the fact that if‏‏‎ ‎black‏‏‎ ‎eye‏‏‎ ‎was m/m fans would be slobbering all over it. also thetis‏‏‎ ‎but not in the third wheel way exactly
minor character: moss :( tbh i rarely fall for minor characters but when i do it's so much harder lmao i am so bad with characters with minimal content i do not have the energy to be making it all myself:
infantilization: BERNIEEEEEEEEE and‏‏‎ ‎from what i've seen‏‏‎ ‎pomni‏‏‎ ‎gets it a little. yes she's cute but she is not like a baby to be protected or a stay-at-home housewife in the making she is extremely capable strong and smart ESPECIALLY considering what she has had to go through
sexualized: orin or karlach probably since both of them get the Step On Me treatment WAITTTT IT'S MORDECAI‏‏‎ ‎it's worse considering you know canonically sex repulsed so it stands out more when it's always he wouldn't fucking do that.
misinterprets their trauma: THETIS. THETIS. THETIS. THETIS. literally no one EVER wants to acknowledge that she was abused and is a trauma victim while they love to blorbofy her rapist as a Fun Cool Dad. but no she gets to be the abuser because god forbid a woman have bad coping mechanisms
people hate them for something small: thetis‏‏‎ ‎della‏‏‎ ‎hollis‏‏‎ ‎camila I Could Go On but you get the picture. there's a theme.
cartoon killer treatment:‏‏‎ ‎mordecai‏‏‎ ‎lol tbh there are smidgens of this in canon i don't really think she got the Best treatment considering she is by all standards heavily implied to have autism and/or ocd at the least if not a personality disorder (as well as making the cold unfeeling character the ace one) but fandom plays into it heavy as fuck
jokes about trauma: bernie again but this one is wayyyy more canon's fault they are so so fucking disrespectful towards her
useless to the story: bernie‏‏‎ ‎a bit but honestly also‏‏‎ ‎dash‏‏‎ ‎in the sense that people say she shouldn't be an element of‏‏‎ ‎harmony‏‏‎ ‎because she's "too rude" or struggles with her element more than the others. you guys are weak and she should be meaner
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seth-burroughs · 10 months ago
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benefits of being yomi kin:
makes me twice as cool and sexy and automatically makes me the objectively correct authority on Yomi's character it is impossible for me to be wrong and if u tell me im wrong ill start scream crying on the floor
won kin lottery and is capable of distinguishing between Yomi Hellsmile the character and Yomi Hellsmile The Character allowing me to both quite literally be that guy and keep another version of him as my blorbo. Manifesting in the ability of fantasizing bout yomi suffering iykwim AND getting past the masochist allegations <3 Also yeah the Yomi fic is currently in works no I will not answer questions on it
this yaoihellsmile shit is sooo easy someone asks me "ouuuyy honey unwrangle my dingle in ur boioioiong and by sproingle well heh lets jsut say. my peanits. any thoughts on that mr yaoi?" and i just answer honestly straight from the heart no bullshit no rp skillz required
woaghhhhhh......... Former director of the peacekeepers homunculus clone Yomi Hellsmile from Master Detective Archives: Rain Code by Spike Chunsoft........ holy shshshit. He's Real......
disadvantages of being yomi kin:
the regular bullshittery that comes free with being fictionkin of any kind cut my wife into pieces this is my last divorce
everybody and their mom hates Yomi and even if the tag here is way less outright aggressive and I can just easily block anyone who makes me uncomfortable in any capacity, youtube is just unusable. Just. AuUUUghhhh. I know one of my fave dr youtubers is gonna play mdarc this year and I also know he's gonna absolutely hate Yomi with a passion and frequently pause the game to talk about how terrible he his yes we get it you are allowed to have opinions on fictional characters and aren't doing anything wrong by it whatever im gonns look up yomi softcore on pixiv fuka u
overly complicates my already fucked sense of self
Blood cravings got even worse��� bad BAD this isn't sustenance it's toxic as hell christ dude STOP❗❗
not extremely likely but still very possible nightmare scenario where the precipitation cipher gets Big attracting those people and getting bombarded with kinnie jokes and annoying Ironic Kin For Fun crowd finding its way here. And that is the at best scenario, the worst one is 2015 kin drama reignited in 2020s you can't "kin" this character unless you're x or x, you can absolutely control who you're kin with and if i don't like your very voluntary choice you should stop (just stop man <3 i won't tell you how the fuck 😊) being fictionkin with a sinful evil abuser linux user makes you a bad person that deserves to be ostracized and harassed until you unlearn your problematic ways oh my god do any of you remember 2015 warrior cat kin drama what the fuck was that. i wasn't around in danganronpa fandom during that time but im pretty sure it may have been even worse there which is insane to even think about. but i mean like hey at least fictionkin were taken (mostly.) seriously back then (albeit considered deeply cringe by the masses) and not reduced to a cheap komaeda kinnies amiright joke
i suffered more than jesus actually. the demotion and arrest was SUPER unfair and cringe guys i promise im not gonna torture people from now on you can trust me in a position of power please please please no one did it like i did it
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EJ MARTINA DZIE MIE KURWA WYWIEŹLI CO TO ZA ZADUPIE MARTINA. MARTINA NIE WYTRZYMAM JUŻ WEŹ HELIKOPTER I MIE KURWA ZABIERZ Z TEGO CHLEWU MAM DOŚĆ POMOCY <- wygnany do Rzeczypospolitej za swoje zbrodnie😔
Yomi is Real (threatening)
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