#y’all are just misogynists

[naathanuwu]

As someone who got raised by a bad mum and likes to overanalyse parent child relationships

Della is not a bad mother, she was actually a really good one by season 3

Shout out to Della for trying her best and figuring it out

[girlfriendpaimonsgirlfriend]

You can def want more mlm rep in a fandom without being misogynistic. I know, it’s a crazy concept right? Like you can definitely express your frustrations with there not being enough mlm work/art in a fandom without also expressing how much you hate that women exist in that fandom. It’s totally possible for y’all to do that you know?

[iheartmoons]

so many ‘non-misogynistic shameless fans’ view the male characters as one dimensional and get angry when u care about them too 💀💀 like just admit ur a man hater, no one will kill u for it

[feyres-divorce-lawyer]

trans women can make songs just as silly as cis women, hope this helps

[proudfreakmetarusonikku]

the thing with connor is that he’s, like, objectively right. george was making creepy objectifying comments to women in private he admitted to it. like he made a joke about fucking a friends girlfriend like. objectively, these guys did misogynistic as fuck shit and that’s what connor said. dream literally is just throwing shit at the wall bc he’s mad that connor thinks a guy who thinks women being treated as sex objects is funny is a misogynist and that he doesn’t trust the rest of the circle like dude what connor said is objectively correct you have been doing misogynistic things that clearly have upset other women! dream’s literally just getting people to harass a guy bc he’s mad that people won’t let him be a misogynist. fucking pathetic

[lesbiansanemi]

Still thinking about when my first and only experience with fandom discord imploded and the group of dumbass idiots that caused all the issues were like “UM ACTUALLY it was so transphobic and biphobic when the lesbians said they didn’t like these m/f ships because what if the person meant t4t bi4bi” (something that was never to rarely specified lmfao) but then EVERY time someone talked about an f/f ship the same ppl would butt in to be like “WELL I THINK SHE PEGS MEN ACTUALLY SHE FUCKS MEN AND LOVES IT HERES MY EXPLICIT THOUGHTS ABOUT HER FUCKING MEN” and were too fucking stupid and stubborn to see how this was uncomfortable and lesbophobic even when explicitly spelled out to them lmfao

[chevelleneech]

‘bucktommy shippers are moving to ody3. awful news for the fandom when they decide avery’s getting in the way of their fated m/m ship’ …as if buddie shippers aren’t the ones who have displayed disgusting behaviour towards both buck and eddie’s past female love interests, not to mention the aggressiveness and violence they displayed against buck’s male love interest. I don’t think bucktommy shippers are going to be the problem here.

I have been vocal about both BuckTommy and Buddie shippers acting an ass, actually, so this isn’t the gotcha you think it is. I mean, I’ve argued plenty with people about how the actress who played Marisol being questionably awful didn’t mean she deserved to be treated the way she was. Particularly when Ryan Gúzman kept his job in the show, despite his actions as well.

However, BT are right now currently claiming 9-1-1 and Oliver are biphobic, claiming the show sacrificed God tier queer rep (ignoring Henren), and calling for Oliver to be fired all because a side character who has a racist and misogynistic past, played by an actor with the same, ended his run on the show.

This ain’t about ships, it’s about the people who love LFJ for literally no reason other than portraying a gay character in a minor role, leaping to the next queer ship they can find as some sort of cancellation prize.

That said, a large many of BT shippers claim to have been Buddies, so you’re talking about the same group of people. You can’t separate former Buddies from current Buddies just because you want to defend BT fans. The same folks who were harassing actresses left and right in “defense” of Buddie going canon, are some of the same people who jumped ship to support BT, and are now the same people “defending” LFJ.

The ven diagram is a circle, so no, I do not want BT shippers moving to Ody3, because aside from them being misogynistic and willing to let racism slide so long as it means being racist toward someone they don’t like (Aka them saying Ryan should have offed himself, yet they’re fine with LFJ and Tommy’s actions), they’re also revisionists. They claim things happened in 9-1-1 that in fact did not, and I do not want to see the inevitable revising of saying Max and Avery never worked or whatever.

And to be clear, I do understand that fandom as a whole is a pretty toxic place to be, but BuckTommy shippers are blatant liars. They have fully rewritten Tommy’s importance within the 9-1-1 universe, sidelined Hen, Karen, Michael, David, and Josh’s relevance as queer characters, and are currently claiming Oliver Stark — a man who has been nothing but happy to portray Buck as bi — is being a biphobic clout chaser for not “protecting” a fictional character that isn’t even his own’s, existence on the show. They are telling a man to “finish the job” in reference to his suicide attempt, because they didn’t want the FICTIONAL CHARACTER he plays on tv to ruin their ship. They accuse Buddies of demanding fan service, yet are petitioning to have Tommy reinstated in the show, and demanding Tim Minear listen. They are accusing the cast of being bullies because LFJ didn’t get a tear jerking send off.

Yes, the way women are treated across the board in fandoms spaces is awful, and should continue to be called out. Which it is, but to act as if BT shippers aren’t and haven’t been awful people this entire time as well, is straight up bullshit, and no other fandom needs that energy. BT fans are seeking a queer ship to latch onto, not a romantic ship to enjoy. They want to see Tristan and Max fuck, not watch Ody3 blossom, and I’m not going to give them the benefit of the doubt. Not when they’ve shat the bed so horribly just because a RECURRING CHARACTER with not even sixty minutes of screen time, was written off.

[the-lonelyshepherd]

practicing fast stylization w yj characters first up is my overhated queen trav

[two-sides-samecoin]

ngl i don’t take anti mileven and anti stancy people seriously anymore because all of their think pieces and arguments just have major internalized misogyny in them and that’s it. “el looks like a boy in the first season which means that mike is attracted to guys” so you think all girls with short hair looks like boys. you think that the only reason girls can have short hair is to resemble a boy and her having short hair only means anything to the boys on her life. you think that el’s trauma resolves around a boy being gay despite the fact that her hair was kept short because she was groomed in a lab and experiments on and an older male took away her choices about what to do with her hair away from her. of course that can only mean anything to the boy she is dating and possibly his sexuality but doesn’t mean shit to the girl.

“nancy would stop persuing her dreams if she’s with steve and she would be a stay at home mom” okay so you think woman can only have two things in life: kids or career. and they’re tied down to whatever choice they make and women can never change their minds about anything. women will give up anything to be with a man or they’re only independent women who aren’t caring and don’t give a shit about anybody. but it’s okay if she has kids with jonathan that’s totally not misogyny and shows that a women’s decisions about their life can only revolve around a man.

[marshmellowtea]

sorry to still be on this but the people who try to imply jack’s a misogynist for going after sssniperwolf are goddamn bizarre to me like can you look past your rudimentary radfem ass understanding of gender for like five minutes and actually look at the situation. she’s the one he mainly targets on twitch sure but he has called out other huge MALE creators for doing the same shit she does, and he’s only focusing on her actual actions (and only her current actions relating to her content thieving, he’s not dragging up her past like other people who are calling her out are doing), and he makes an effort to keep his criticisms fair and relevant. him daring to play bingo with her “content” is not this act of sexist violence like some of y’all are trying to claim, she’s a grown ass woman who’s made millions off of her shady actions, she doesn’t need y’all to come in and protect her from this scary male youtuber who’s having a little fun with it.

[dandyleyen]

I really need you guys to put on your thinking caps and be very normal about how y’all treat Zelda as a character.

She was a 16/17 year old in BoTW. She wasn’t an awful, spoiled Princess. She was a young girl who had the fate of her entire people and country on her shoulders. She was thrust into a destiny and duty that she didn’t want, but knew she had to go through with. If she didn’t, everything would be lost. She wasn’t ready for the Calamity, but NO ONE WAS. All the Champions (including Link) had their skills ready and they knew what they were going to do and yet they were still all caught by surprise and overwhelmed. If it wasn’t for her and Link and the sacrifices they have made, Hyrule would never even have a CHANCE of recovering.

Link isn’t her servant. He has no obligation or duty to follow her around or stay by her say after BoTW ends and he saves her. The monarchy is all but dissolved by the time Tears starts and she’s [Zelda] is honestly more of a figurehead than an actual monarch. She’s not forcing anyone to follow her. People follow her because she is a smart and caring woman who wants to help the people of Hyrule (all races included) prosper and come back after having suffered so much. Link stays by her side because they care about one another. Whether you think that’s romantic or purely platonic doesn’t really matter, because the care and love is still there. She clearly respects him (you literally hear how highly she speaks of him in her interactions with others in Tears) and he respects her too.

Stop hiding your thinly veiled misogyny towards her behind “oh she’s a bad character who doesn’t respect link and is spoiled blah blah”.

You’re literally just engaging in character assassination and hating her for a personality that you’re making up for her. Can you guys genuinely be normal about her.

[blessedfatui]

miraculous spoilers under the cut

so, y’all mean to tell me that felix, the dude who WILLINGLY worked with a terrorist, harassed ladybug, manipulated his “darling” cousin, knows that his uncle is a terrorist, and that his aunt is dead in a basement, can be redeemed because he had two angsty scenes with sentimonsters and his dad is a piece of shit, but lila and chloe are irredeemable monsters who are unlovable, and they are pure evil even though they have the almost exact same writing as felix? feminism my ass

and before some of y’all come in with nathalie, that is ONE female character that was redeemed (and had a shitty redemption). we still have audrey and andre, who the latter gets redeemed even though he ACTIVELY abused and neglected chloe. then we have gabriel, who was an active abuser who can get redeemed, but sure, bring up ONE redeemed female go try and disprove my point that miraculous is actively misogynistic and isn’t the feminist-inclusive show it claims to be.

Adding on because of my tism brain, it’s not even like I’m mad that Chloé isn’t being redeemed. I can live with the villain or whatever they’re trying to go with Chloé and Lila, but it’s just really odd that He Who Shall Not Be Named, will say that characters who do xyz actions cannot be redeemed, but redeems two male characters who have done said actions, while demonizing two female characters.

I could even live with the Felix redemption if his actions weren’t as horrible as they are, but I cannot change have canon. Some one rip this show from my hands before I actually lose my mind (it’s been seven fucking years)

[boag]

Yesterday I was on Twitter and someone quoted this tweet that had a video of some gay kid reading the shit out of his friend and making her legitimately cry and they said smth like “so much gay boy humor is literally just misogyny like y’all need to start calling them faggots and moving on” and they got so much hate and all these people being like “this isn’t misogynistic it had nothing to do with her being a woman!!” or whatever and the person who said it was trying to explain to these people that verbally berating a girl you’re allegedly “friends” with and continuing to tear her apart after she’s gone silent and stopped playing along and is trying to blink back her tears and thinking it’s okay bc it’s a “joke” is literally just treating women like shit for ur own amusement… which is misogynistic . And these people were acting like they claimed the sky was green bc they called it misogyny . There is no hope for women 😭😭😭

[clover-46]

me after seeing dumbasses call princess bonnibel bubblegum evil and a horrible character:

[ndplatypus]

This is a Miguel O’Hara hate account.

Peter B you are on thin ice.

Gwen Stacy you made mistakes but are a child who was held at gun point by her own father and was essentially homeless and was doing what she thought would keep her safe.

There are levels to these characters and their mistakes vs their intentions.

But only one of these characters is an adult man who choke slammed a 15 year old into a train calling him a mistake. Blaming him for everything wrong in the multiverse. As if he wasn’t a kid who just happened to be bit by a radioactive spider brought to his universe by the collider.

Like sir, you, an entire adult man, purposely jumped Universe, and slipped your way into a family that wasn’t yours and collapsed the universe but you gonna project that onto a teenager? Chill the fuck out you creep I’m sorry but that wasn’t your family??? Like the fuck what you did was actually insane. You fucking hypocrite.

Fuck Miguel O’Hara

[hadesoftheladies]

lesbophobia from anti separatists is bad and misogyny + biphobia from same-sex attracted separatists is bad. none of the weirdos that engage in this kind of bullying and harassment are engaging meaningfully or sincerely with the principles or values of radical feminism. can we now start interacting with each other on the basis of actual theory rather than assuming anyone who ventures to discuss or debate theory is either of these people?