#wynonna Earp vengeance spoilers

[nanihirunkits]

Tonight... there's no place I'd rather be... than at home... with my wife.

WYNONNA EARP: VENGEANCE (2024)

[takadasaiko]

When you make a movie or limited series to try to reboot a beloved TV show, it should have an ending that leaves the audience feeling good. It should not:

Undo all the progress/growth you leave the characters with at the end of the original show

Brush over questions that clearly should have been dealt with in the interim space but aren’t because the writers haven’t put the time or energy into them

Kill off fan favourites for shock factor

Treat the end of your movie/limited series like a season finale that is expected to continue with cliffhangers

It should be a gift to the fans who stuck it out with you, and who in turn may very well rally around your cause and spark new interest in a reboot. It shouldn’t be a big middle finger to us.

[wayhaughtn7]

We’ve only had Wynonna Earp back for a few days and the fandom is already annoying the shit out of me and reminding me of the biggest issues I’ve always had with the fandom and the show.

Waverly Earp is a grown ass woman and if she wants something she should be fucking honest about it with her wife instead of not talking about it and then telling her sister so her sister accuses her wife of holding her back. Nicole Haught is the last fucking person in the world that would hold Waverly back. But heaven forbid Waverly open up her mouth and talk to her wife. I’m so fucking tired of folks acting like Waverly is blameless and perfect.

[talas-first-lady]

Additional Wynonna Earp Vengeance thoughts

This is going to be all the spoilers. You have been warned.

First of all, things that brought me a lot of joy:

The first scene up until things went bad. Nedley. Mercedes. Being buddies. Everything Mercedes was wearing including her monogrammed fanny pack of fishing lures.

Mercedes being like “the face. Kill me if you must but do not harm the face.” And hey, props to Mina for listening?

Bunny Loblaw cameo. The woman just gets better every time.

Any and all Wayhaught physical activity.

The entire Wynonna and Doc intro in Tombstone. That was just pure 100% Wynonna perfection.

“No we will NOT be redoing those stairs. They are very important to me for reasons.” - Nicole Haught

Every comment from Wynonna about how drunken brawling is actually precisely what Mercedes would have wanted at her wake (although I think Mercedes would have wanted more male strippers tbh).

I am typing this as I walk my dogs and we just passed a gold penis-shaped piece of confetti on the sidewalk outside a bar. Mercedes Gardner: never truly gone.

There was some quality Earp sister time that I did enjoy although it was slightly off (see Waverly discussion).

I am very much not up on current music so I didn’t get 100% of the references but Doc talking to Waverly about Megan Thee Stallion is what I came for.

Wistful comment about friend from Arizona. Thank you, Doc. Sorry your new bf was a tool.

The conversation between Wynonna and Nedley at the cemetery was perfect and should have happened years ago.

The fact that no one for a moment doubted that the three people Wynonna loves most are Waverly, Alice… and Nicole. I will be a Wynnaught shipper till the day I die.

Wynonna going to hell was pretty badass.

Nedley hitting hellhounds with his truck.

No pyramid schemes!

Now for the complaints.

At no point did they convince me that Mina was actually worse than all the demons they’ve faced before. Really? Sure, she doesn’t follow Revenant rules, but they’ve dealt with Bulshar. She does not remotely compare.

I also didn’t really buy the backstory stuff: Wynonna trying to impress a bunch of mean girls by summoning a demon for them? Taking them to the homestead at all? None of that felt true to her. I also don’t know why the group home girls were just suddenly back in Purgatory. (Also Dawson’s Freaks is the STUPIDEST.)

I think maybe Mina would have worked with a full season of build-up, but this was just not enough time.

I’m really pissed off about Mercedes surviving everything just to be murdered as a plot device. I love her, ok? She deserves better.

I am less pissed about Doc because I think they handled it decently - one last epic shootout, burying him in the spot where he wanted to raise Alice, the symmetry with burying Dolls (on the same hill, I think?), letting him come to terms with aging and dying. But it was so unnecessary. And so rushed: we never got to see anyone’s reaction but Wynonna’s (and Jeremy’s wildly out of character non-reaction). He was such an important character and we never got to say goodbye properly.

Not enough Jeremy.

Nicole’s attitude towards Wynonna up until that big don’t tell Waverly moment just made me so sad. I love their dynamic. I don’t know what happened.

In general, it felt like Nicole majorly backslid.

Biggest problem, though: Waverly. And I’m going to be upfront here and say that I was never as enamored with Waverly as a lot of people are. But I did like her and this didn’t feel like Waverly.

I think it’s fantastic that Dom has come out and become more comfortable in their skin and that they didn’t force them back in the girly Waverly box for this.

But I think they changed too much. Physically, the hair, the nose ring, the tattoos, the wardrobe choices (the wifebeater? The bolo tie?). But there was also her behavior. Jumping into a bar fight aggressively after relatively minor provocation was a lot. There was nothing of the light, bubbly Waverly left aside from a craft room. It just felt like part of her died. Like something happened over those 5 years that traumatized her worse than the stuff we actually witnessed. And Nicole being so unconcerned about it.

Anyway, that’s most of it?

[misscatholmes]

Alright so I didn't love WE: Vengeance. The acting? Pretty solid (the agent was worse than first season Dolls though yikes), the villain, pretty neat, the cinematography, good.

I'm annoyed by the lack of Rachel. I totally understand if the actress didn't want to come back or couldn't, but not even mentioning her bothered me. I get it to a certain extent because this is more meant to be a stand alone thing,but still bummed.

I did like the relationship stuff. The Nedley and Nicole scene really saved it for me (and Nedley with the car). The plot itself was meh.

And possibly unpopular opinion incoming: I'm glad they kept Alice out of the story. At this point, she's five and doesn't know her mother. Her mother is chaos and that's not the place for a child. Plus I can imagine that taking the kid away from Gus and putting her with someone she barely knows would be traumatic.

Overall it was okay. It was better than Slayer a Buffyverse story but not nearly as good as the Orphan Black podcast thingy that continued the story.

Honestly I'm just happy the cast got work and got to work together again.

[abandonededen]

❛  are  you  sure  you’re  okay ?  ❜ from wynonna for doc?

𝑺𝑬𝑨𝑳𝑬𝑫 𝑾𝑰𝑻𝑯 𝑨 𝑳𝑬𝑨𝑫 𝑲𝑰𝑺𝑺 - accepting!

‘ are you sure you're okay ? ’

time seems to slow to a crawl as those words reach him, barely audible over the rush of blood in his ears. oh, he is FAR more than simply ‘ okay, ’ if only he had the words for it. “ i am . . . simply sublime, ” he answers, each word a bit heavier, a bit slower, than the last. he knows what's coming ( and it has been a long time coming ) even if wynonna doesn't yet. and he is at peace with it. after all, doc holliday died a long time ago . . . and this time, well, he can't think of a better cause worth dying for than family, his family.

his breath hitches as he goes to take a step, and stumbles, the ground rushing to meet him as he falls to his knees in the frigid snow. his spirit may remain fierce as ever, but his body is beginning to fail him. “ it'll be -- ” a pause, a breath, “ all right, wynonna. ” his girls are safe. that's all that matters.

[monumentalnightmare]

I could not have asked for a better return to the Wynonna Earp Universe!

Also, I just want to say that Waverly's new hair is just 🔥🔥🔥

WAVERLY EARP and NICOLE HAUGHT — WYNONNA EARP: VENGEANCE (2024) dir. Paolo Barzman

[mayasdeluca]

Nicole + lifting Waverly

[ferrarer17]

[girl4music]

I figured Nicole would want kids and Waverly wouldn’t.

Well, I’m not saying she wouldn’t ever want kids but clearly she feels she’s too much of a free spirit at the moment and there’s a lot more adventure she wants to live in the world of the supernatural before she gets tied down with the responsibility of being a parent.

Nicole, on the other hand, feels she’s already lived enough adventure for the both of them. She wants to slow down. She wants to start a family with Waverly.

But this just leaves one gaping fucking question to answer: where the fuck is RACHEL? The orphan girl.

If they’re talking about having kids, why isn’t she mentioned? Acknowledged? Even thought about?

This is an extreme oversight of a recurring character that people just new to the Earping won’t even know who she is - won’t even realize there’s a “she” to know. Or that it even makes any sense that WayHaught would consider adoption if they wanted to have kids.

I’m just… it’s the one thing that really bothers me about the special. Why isn’t Rachel talked about?

[monumentalnightmare]

Love this parallel 😂

[takadasaiko]

My former Roomie and I just finished watching the new Wynonna Earp movie and…….

[skyefullofdaisies]

GOD DAMMIT

I knew they were gonna kill off Doc. Good thing is it isn’t part of the original ending so I can ignore the movie 😁

[wayhaughtn7]

Where did I say there was animosity between Waverly and Nicole? I was specifically talking about how Waverly still can’t be honest about what she wants with her wife and how the fandom ignores Waverly’s faults and acts like everyone else is to blame. It’s beyond annoying when Ms. No More Secrets Waverly Earp can’t fucking be honest like a damn grown up with her wife and the fandom acts like there’s nothing wrong with her behavior. It’s been a consistent thing with the fandom since season 2.

We’ve only had Wynonna Earp back for a few days and the fandom is already annoying the shit out of me and reminding me of the biggest issues I’ve always had with the fandom and the show.

Waverly Earp is a grown ass woman and if she wants something she should be fucking honest about it with her wife instead of not talking about it and then telling her sister so her sister accuses her wife of holding her back. Nicole Haught is the last fucking person in the world that would hold Waverly back. But heaven forbid Waverly open up her mouth and talk to her wife. I’m so fucking tired of folks acting like Waverly is blameless and perfect.

[gabsword]

Little rant about Wynonna Earp: Vengeance.

I am someone who has a deep love and nostalgia for this show, it was a really important part of my coming out and discovering myself journey etc and I can honestly say I was obsessed with Wynonna Earp. With that in mind I did genuinely quite enjoy Vengeance and I’m so happy to see all the characters again so any of my criticisms are with that love in mind. That being said there were quite a few choices that frustrated me that I have to get off my chest.

Lowkey afraid to post this because I know so much of the fandom think Wynonna Earp is immune to any criticism (read: the whole racism debacle).

Also I’m sure a lot of my criticisms could also be levied at the show itself but tbh I haven’t rewatched it since it came out so I’d have to rewatch it and put on my critical brain.

SPOILERS BELOW

1. I think the more the show puts Mercedes through the wringer the less of an impact it has. As awful as it sounds I kinda wish something happening to one of the other characters (eg. Nicole) but not necessarily death, could’ve been the catalyst. (I’m less strongly opinionated on this point I just thought it’s worth mentioning.)

2. I though the fight choreography was pretty shit, I felt absolutely no stakes during the hell hound attacks.

3. This might be a controversial opinion, but I think there WASN’T ENOUGH fan service. Considering this is a reunion almost entirely aimed at fans on a random-ass streaming service, intended to lean in to fans nostalgia. Unless I’ve missed it they only mentioned Dolls once (quite subtly and they mention Bunny Fucking Loblaw more than him) never mentioned Rosita, Robin, Chrissy, Rachel Valdez, Kate etc etc and again I might have missed this but they didn’t even mention Julian??? Glad Jeremy showed up at the end though

These next three are the most egregious in my opinion.

4. WHY TF DID THEY MAKE WYNONNA A COP??? It makes no fucking sense for her character. So much of her character arc is about distancing herself from her father and making her own path then she follows in his footsteps???? If they wanted to give her a job to show she was settling into the Purgatory community and still on the look out for demons she could have I don’t know, been a Park Ranger or a PI or literally anything else. Like I get that she has people she trusts and loves on the force in Nicole and formerly Randy but this still doesn’t make sense to me and feels like more copaganda than the show already has.

5. Wtf does Emily Andras have against Wynonna being happy with her child. At the very least even if it was unsafe for Alice to live with Wynonna they could show her visiting her and forming a relationship (which she so desperately wants). It also feels like a disservice to Doc to not follow that up. I wish the ending had been Wynonna sitting with Alice and telling her about Doc instead of just ‘hey welcome to the force! Congrats!’

6. Considering the show has such limited representations of First Nations peoples (I’m struggling to think of any), the only Native American character being a demon feels dodgy af to me. But that alone could theoretically be talked out of as ‘there are demons of every race’. Ok, then WTF would you have your main character making fun of the Native characters calling her ancestor a coloniser??

[superlansde]

“I wish I could be the one to show you the world”

Devastated.

I have a fic idea about that since ages ago I just don’t write it, but I’ve tried to outline the plot lol anyways!