#wick talks

[jadedcryptic]

on a small Birthday Hiatus, ill be back with more Gremlin content afterwards 💜💜

[thewickling]

So, I am trying to get back into writing fic and I am digging through WIPs. I found a note about a fic where the working title was: Reborned One's Actions Bends His Illustrious Peer but can’t find the connected info so I’m just like ??? What was this fic about? It was probably mdzs but who was this about??

[wickawick]

Read my fic ooooh you wanna read my fic sooo bad

[thewickling]

I absolutely support AO3 choosing to keep its site monetization free.

I'm also totally seconding ao3cotd on the fact this isn't how it has to be. A site born out of the same events as AO3, Asianfanfics allows monetization and even has in-built crowdfunding options. (Though it has implemented some explicit content restrictions at some point that reduced its popularity in English speaking fandoms. It still has a regular use base). The fact it allows RPF content may also factor into why it's less concerned about monetization being an issue. (The US generally has some decent protections that allow people to write about famous people/public figures).

D&D, Magic the Gathering, and other such spaces have always had a culture that accepts some level of monetization via side-hustling.

The reasons why it can be difficult to monetize fanfiction can trace its roots back to when there was no copyright and people were not able to make a living off their writing .

Whether something is monetized is certainly a factor in determining if something is fair use or not, but it's not the only factor. People like with fanart could choose to take that risk if they want. Do the research, decide if it's worth it for you.

do you ever wish it *was* allowed to monetize fanfiction? obviously i know all the otw rules about not and stuff and why but it just seems ... unfair, i suppose?

[standard disclaimer that I am not a lawyer and this is as far from legal advice as it gets]

The OTW / AO3 does not allow monetization on their site. This is for two reasons:

1) the legality of it is still somewhat unsettled in the USA where OTW is based and 2) (my conjecture), the people who started it wanted a place that was not part of the capitalist ecosphere

However, the OTW having this stance doesn't mean that's just the way things are. Lots of spaces outside of AO3 monetize fanfic. It's a robust tradition in some areas of fandom. It's just the fact that AO3 has become so huge that people assume AO3's Terms of Service are the same thing as... I guess, international law? A moral code of fandom? Who can say.

If you want to monetize your fanfic, go for it. Just don't mention it on AO3 and don't link out to your monetized platform from AO3. Not because it's illegal but because it's against the site's Terms of Service and if you get reported, your fic could be taken down.

Create a commission price list. Start up a patreon. Sell printed copies of your work. Whatever you want. Just don't talk about it on AO3. Not in your author notes. Not in the comments. Not on your profile.

If you decide to write fic for money, you'll run the risk of the original creator potentially suing you, but Anne Rice is dead now and I'm betting George RR Martin has calmed down in the last decade or so. These days, fandom is seen as part of the capitalist engine. It's free marketing. Even if an author or show runner or director really does hate fanfic, they probably won't actually say that near a microphone in case that hype machine disappears.

[drop-of-infinity]

I don’t think we talk enough about how the entirety of Wicked is built on the irony of No One Mourns the Wicked. The musical exists because Glinda feels the need to tell Elphaba’s story, because she is in mourning and entirely alone in that. Glinda’s love is what creates the musical because no one mourns Elphaba except her, and that is an incredibly lonely place to be. She’s just lost two of the most important people to her, and all she’s trying to do is make someone, anyone else see how important they were.

[hamletthedane]

On one hand I’m so glad they split wicked into two parts and let the characters and plot breath a little more. It was definitely a good decision for Part 1/Act 1.

On the other, Act 2 of Wicked is a fucking WILD story with the craziest tonal whiplash imaginable. A 3hr film version of it sounds truly INSANE

[mipexch]

been thinking about something wicked a little too much lately. no harm in romanticizing the ominous dreadful unstoppable force

[thewickling]

I remember a few years ago that an indie author I sometimes read contacted the Amazon that her book had been categorized as erotica instead of romance. Amazon removed the listing because whoever was contacted assumed the complaint was in part because the book contained _erotic_ content. The book eventually got relisted correctly but that's just silly.

"I've read much spicier things on Ao3" is a common thing I hear about my work, and my polite response is usually, "That's because Ao3 is non-profit and heavily anti-censorship, and authors won't lose their source of income for writing about fucked up gay tentacle porn in the Algorithm finds them." (or if someone reports them. Because yeah, that's a thing people do too. The snitches.)

The annoying thing is you'll find heterosexual erotica in abundance on Amazon. Hell, you'll find it in the Romance genre.

But if you're writing sweet queer media? Fuck you, better hope the person doing approvals that day isn't a cunting homophobe.

And it's not just the Zon doing this. It's all of them.

We're in the bad place.

[madockisser]

madoc encouraging murder to his thousands of bastard/adopted/in law children

[helenofblackthorns]

I think there should be a scene in twp where Emma, Kit, and Ash all stand in a room together and cause Julian, Ty, and Dru to simultaneously come to the horrifying realisation that they all have the same type (blonde. Jace Herondale adjacent.)

[justarandombrit]

Is this meme still around?

[corpish]

I’ve watched this video so many times and am fascinated by the language and pacing of this conversation

[thewickling]

So, this ao3 situation really makes me want to dig up Winding Moonrise and see what my last partly written idea for that was

[wickawick]

why the FUCK isn't terezi in the weirdgirl showdown she is the ULTIMATE WEIRDGIRL. she pretends to be a LAWYER in her TREEHOUSE where she stages elaborate TRIALS where the judge is a CHALK DRAWING and everyone else is DRAGON PLUSHIES then she ties a noose around the guilty scalemate and THROWS THEM OUT THE WINDOW!!!!!! also she's bisexual poly and blind

[spideyhexx]

something something fiyero taking his jacket off to put over your shoulders when you’re cold, and he immediately shivers. Pretends like he isn’t cold, biting his smile over it

[drop-of-infinity]

at the end of the day everything Glinda does is about Elphaba. from the moment they become friends, Glinda becomes permanently changed by Elphaba. she is what she is in the second act because of Elphaba, not in spite of her. because she is trying to outrun her and find a way to live without her, because she regrets not going with her and is trying to convince herself she doesn’t. Elphaba only asks Glinda to come with her once, but from then on Glinda spends years trying to outrun her own answer. and in the end she can’t, and she brings herself back to Elphaba anyway.