#wick talks

[jadedcryptic]

on a small Birthday Hiatus, ill be back with more Gremlin content afterwards 💜💜

[thewickling]

So, I am trying to get back into writing fic and I am digging through WIPs. I found a note about a fic where the working title was: Reborned One's Actions Bends His Illustrious Peer but can’t find the connected info so I’m just like ??? What was this fic about? It was probably mdzs but who was this about??

[drop-of-infinity]

I don’t think we talk enough about how the entirety of Wicked is built on the irony of No One Mourns the Wicked. The musical exists because Glinda feels the need to tell Elphaba’s story, because she is in mourning and entirely alone in that. Glinda’s love is what creates the musical because no one mourns Elphaba except her, and that is an incredibly lonely place to be. She’s just lost two of the most important people to her, and all she’s trying to do is make someone, anyone else see how important they were.

[thewickling]

I absolutely support AO3 choosing to keep its site monetization free.

I'm also totally seconding ao3cotd on the fact this isn't how it has to be. A site born out of the same events as AO3, Asianfanfics allows monetization and even has in-built crowdfunding options. (Though it has implemented some explicit content restrictions at some point that reduced its popularity in English speaking fandoms. It still has a regular use base). The fact it allows RPF content may also factor into why it's less concerned about monetization being an issue. (The US generally has some decent protections that allow people to write about famous people/public figures).

D&D, Magic the Gathering, and other such spaces have always had a culture that accepts some level of monetization via side-hustling.

The reasons why it can be difficult to monetize fanfiction can trace its roots back to when there was no copyright and people were not able to make a living off their writing .

Whether something is monetized is certainly a factor in determining if something is fair use or not, but it's not the only factor. People like with fanart could choose to take that risk if they want. Do the research, decide if it's worth it for you.

do you ever wish it *was* allowed to monetize fanfiction? obviously i know all the otw rules about not and stuff and why but it just seems ... unfair, i suppose?

[standard disclaimer that I am not a lawyer and this is as far from legal advice as it gets]

The OTW / AO3 does not allow monetization on their site. This is for two reasons:

1) the legality of it is still somewhat unsettled in the USA where OTW is based and 2) (my conjecture), the people who started it wanted a place that was not part of the capitalist ecosphere

However, the OTW having this stance doesn't mean that's just the way things are. Lots of spaces outside of AO3 monetize fanfic. It's a robust tradition in some areas of fandom. It's just the fact that AO3 has become so huge that people assume AO3's Terms of Service are the same thing as... I guess, international law? A moral code of fandom? Who can say.

If you want to monetize your fanfic, go for it. Just don't mention it on AO3 and don't link out to your monetized platform from AO3. Not because it's illegal but because it's against the site's Terms of Service and if you get reported, your fic could be taken down.

Create a commission price list. Start up a patreon. Sell printed copies of your work. Whatever you want. Just don't talk about it on AO3. Not in your author notes. Not in the comments. Not on your profile.

If you decide to write fic for money, you'll run the risk of the original creator potentially suing you, but Anne Rice is dead now and I'm betting George RR Martin has calmed down in the last decade or so. These days, fandom is seen as part of the capitalist engine. It's free marketing. Even if an author or show runner or director really does hate fanfic, they probably won't actually say that near a microphone in case that hype machine disappears.

[voy-por-nuevos-caminos]

nanny talking to elphaba and saying this like oh they were CLOCKED. by everyone apparently

‘everyone knew you were gay’

[spiribia]

This is how I would post about Glinda the good if I was an Ozian

[hamletthedane]

On one hand I’m so glad they split wicked into two parts and let the characters and plot breath a little more. It was definitely a good decision for Part 1/Act 1.

On the other, Act 2 of Wicked is a fucking WILD story with the craziest tonal whiplash imaginable. A 3hr film version of it sounds truly INSANE

[thewickling]

I remember a few years ago that an indie author I sometimes read contacted the Amazon that her book had been categorized as erotica instead of romance. Amazon removed the listing because whoever was contacted assumed the complaint was in part because the book contained _erotic_ content. The book eventually got relisted correctly but that's just silly.

"I've read much spicier things on Ao3" is a common thing I hear about my work, and my polite response is usually, "That's because Ao3 is non-profit and heavily anti-censorship, and authors won't lose their source of income for writing about fucked up gay tentacle porn in the Algorithm finds them." (or if someone reports them. Because yeah, that's a thing people do too. The snitches.)

The annoying thing is you'll find heterosexual erotica in abundance on Amazon. Hell, you'll find it in the Romance genre.

But if you're writing sweet queer media? Fuck you, better hope the person doing approvals that day isn't a cunting homophobe.

And it's not just the Zon doing this. It's all of them.

We're in the bad place.

[wickcipher]

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He definitely saw this coming

[ministarfruit]

yuri month day 2: I want you to heal me ♡

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[nataliescatorccio]

ARIANNA GRANDE-BUTERA as GLINDA UPLAND Wicked (2024) dir. John M. Chu

[5piderboy]

elphaba and glinda's scene at the ozdust ballroom is already heartbreaking as it is. but the previous scene? elphaba literally told madame morrible she would quit working with her if glinda wasn't included in the classes as well. she risked her dream of meeting the wizard for glinda, she thought that was worth it for her. you don't do that for someone just to repay her, you don't do that for someone you supposedly hate so much.

[revvethasmythh]

blackwall's whole situation is hilarious to me because he's posing as the warden-constable of orlais and this is never interrogated by anyone. what the fuck do you mean the warden-constable of orlais is chilling in my adventuring party after apparently being no-contact with any other wardens for multiple years and was found living in fereldan for some reason. leliana has a file of warden-constable blackwall's speech to his soldiers (in orlais!) during the fifth blight when blackwall outright tells you he was in fereldan during the blight and then after the truth comes out cullen is like "yeah even leliana didn't know blackwall was lying because she has a blind spot when it comes to the wardens". girlfriend that is not a blind spot that is a black hole. do we not communicate did i not tell you that blackwall said he was in fereldan. what breakdown in communication had to occur to allow this ruse to continue

also if he's the warden-constable of orlais that means he's clarel's second in command and this NEVER comes up. you leave the warden contact behind in the fade and some junior warden scuttles up to you like, "but we have no one left of any significant rank!" okay well the guy claiming to be warden-constable is literally stood five feet to my left, how's that. no one's ever like "hey blackwall wanna take over command of the remaining wardens" despite the fact that his own cover story outright makes him their commander. like the way blackwall lies is hilarious but also he should NOT have feasibly been able to get away with this. claiming to be the warden-constable is a level of audacity rarely witnessed in nature. what the fuck even happened here

[drop-of-infinity]

at the end of the day everything Glinda does is about Elphaba. from the moment they become friends, Glinda becomes permanently changed by Elphaba. she is what she is in the second act because of Elphaba, not in spite of her. because she is trying to outrun her and find a way to live without her, because she regrets not going with her and is trying to convince herself she doesn’t. Elphaba only asks Glinda to come with her once, but from then on Glinda spends years trying to outrun her own answer. and in the end she can’t, and she brings herself back to Elphaba anyway.

[lylahammar]

man I know I shouldn't jump in on Wicked discourse but I keep seeing people calling Glinda the "villain" of Wicked and it's driving me nuts because I really don't think it's as simple as that

imo Glinda's story is a very Shakespearean style tragedy about a white feminist (liberal) politician. Her hamartia is her desire to be accepted by the oppressive ruling class, while her internal conflict is her struggle to be perceived as "good." She was influenced just enough by her marginalized activist friend to feel crushing awareness of her own place in the fascist system, but they were separated before she was able to fully reach self actualization and pursue a more fulfilling goal. Her tragic downfall is that she got exactly what she thought she wanted, but through her incomplete character arc she found that it was actually cold and hollow and lonely. Yeah she's a shitty selfish person and she dug her own grave but she's not the villain, she's the tragic anti-hero

[localgaysian]

the fact that they literally cut 3 or so extremely homosexual gelphie sequences and the movie still managed to outqueer the musical is.....quite something