#why is Israel getting attacked from all sides and we still get idiots thinking they’re the agggessor

[elder-millennial-of-zion]

So if this is actually about Hamas, why are they bombing Lebanon right now?

You mean why is Hezbollah bombing Israel and displacing 80,000 Israelis from their homes?

[svartikotturinn]

(Reproducing my comment here in its entirety.)

I’ve looked through lots of Nazi Tumblogs for trolling material in my day: you can easily find them if you know what to look for: they don’t tag their posts ‘Nazi’ or ‘Nazism’ or whatever, it’s always stuff like ‘NatSoc’, ‘National Socialism’, ‘1488’, or (if they’re too cowardly to openly say what they subscribe to) ‘traditional/reactionary European’. I think my observations are good story material.

First of all, I’ve found quite a few interesting trends there.

First off, they lie like crazy. They claim that Dr. Albert Schweitzer wrote about how he became disillusioned with Africans and said they had the mentality of evil toddlers in African Notebook, that Richard Dawkins wrote about how progressivism not allowing free speech about how humans are naturally classified into races is ‘alarming’ in The Extended Phenotype, and that Taylor Swift has expressed white supremacist ideas, among others: the first two are easily proven false with a simple search on Google Books, the third is obviously false considering she’s good friends with Nicki Minaj. I’ve actually found a post on a Nazi blog that included a quote by Hitler saying, ‘The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.’

Aside from lying like crazy about easily disproven bullshit, they also tend to grossly misread things, either intentionally or because they’re that fucking stupid. One example I’ve seen is an article about a trans woman openly admitting to ‘indoctrinating’ children or whatever, which was posted with a ‘gotcha!’ comment that completely ignored that the article basically said something like ‘I teach kids to be respectful of those who are different, and if you call that indoctrination so be it’. Another article said that legitimizing pædophiles was ‘the next crusade of the left’, completely misunderstanding that the point was about looking at it as an affliction to be remedied rather than a crime in and of itself (as opposed to child molestation). And this is before relying on broken statistics and whatnot, like the time I argued with a Nazi who insisted that California if not the US in general had a non-white majority. Happens all the damn time.

Third thing I noticed was that a lot of their rhetoric had to do with women’s beauty and chastity. ‘NatSoc’ blogs are notoriously rife with pictures of pretty young white women in various states of dress (in traditional European garb) and undress (often with, like, a laurel on their heads or something) in fields and natural scenes and suchlike. (One time I found a blog filled ONLY with pictures like those and jokingly suggested to the admit that he should look into this one chick named Scarlett Johannson; he said, ‘Is this the part where I tell you Ashkenazi Jews are Aryans and you run off with your tail between your legs?’ Apparently, he really took the ‘Neo’ part of ‘Neo-Nazi’ to heart!) The notorious 14 Words (specifically ‘because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the earth’) are also pretty commonly quoted, as well as horror stories of white women who were abused by Arabs and black men. You never hear about the reverse: extolling the beauty of white men and warning them against going with black women. The truth is, much like the Israeli organization Lehava (who keep talking about women as ‘daughters of kings’, warning against Arabs who seduce Jewish women into their villages and abusing them there), anti-white rhetoric about how white people ‘take [black people’s/Asians’] women’, and the Mongolian Tsagaan Khas (who talk about foreigners making lots of money and taking their women), they see women as some kind of resource they feel entitled to and are terrified of having taken away from them. (Cracked once had an article about a former Neo-Nazi named Frank Meeink who started associating with black inmates, because the Nazis kept talking about his girlfriend being unfaithful; the black inmates congratulated him when she was pregnant. I think that sums it up amazingly.)

Finally, I found out they were a lot more diverse than people give them credit for. Aside from the VERY ‘Neo’-Nazi mentioned above, they vary in terms of economic beliefs (unlike the KKK, who see Socialism as a foreign evil, they are more split on the issue), religious beliefs (i.e. badly interpreted Christianity, badly interpreted paganism, and badly interpreted purely secular ‘science’), and other issues. I’ve even come across a ‘feminist’ blog (NSFW) claiming patriarchy is a Jewish conspiracy, and I’m not entirely sure whether it’s for real or not, and another one saying Nazis and Muslims are natural allies that Jews have set against each other.

I’ve had the most interaction with two particular Nazis on Tumblr.

The first of the two was a Serbian woman. She was an admin on a general anti-SJ blog, which also featured a hardcore Christian who claimed Jews were ‘devil spawns’ or something based on (misquoted) New Testament quotes, an avid fanboy of Assad’s regime (his presence and their defence of Palestinians was justified because apparently ‘Arabs are Aryans’), and other idiots. I clashed with her a few times and talked about how her sense of superiority based on not being ‘a cumdumpster’ had nothing to do with actual respect and everything to do with succumbing to male standards. Then I accused the admins of that blog of subscribing to the ideology just as an excuse for violence; she said that she’d adopted it because of her experience with NATO’s aggression towards Serbia, their mishandling of the Trepča Mines (which she attributed to greed), and deep contempt towards George Soros for his involvement in all of it. I sympathized with her, and we began debating with far more civilized tones.

She talked about how SJ ideology has gone out of control (e.g. the dismay caused by a road named ‘Bangays Way’ named after a historian named Bangay), and how much of it was forced on her, and how she felt like she was being attacked simply because she espoused endogamy to preserve her culture. I agreed with her about the crazier bunch in the SJ crowd, talked about how she used really gross generalizations (apparently she thought Jews could agree on ANYTHING), pointed out some misinterpretations (e.g. that people protesting the road were less ‘THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE’ and more ‘this looks iffy, come on guys’), and pointed out the problems with defining what a culture is. After a short while she said she was sick and occupied so she couldn’t answer, and then she just deleted her blog. I wish she hadn’t, it was getting interesting.

The second one was the guy who posted that Hitler quote, who was also the same one claiming California had a non-white majority. I argued pretty fervently, with citations and everything, and he was apparently genuinely impressed. He sent me a personal message saying that was the first time he was not dismissed by an SJW for his ideology and was actually debated in earnest (albeit with lots of insults) and wanted to have a serious reasoned debate. I agreed, we chatted some, and he explained that he was an EMT who would treat non-white people just fine but still preferred a world where nations were divided into races and had fair fights in armed conflict over territory and wealth.

He wanted the divide to be based on race because, he claimed, races have serious genetic differences based on their evolution in different environments that made them incompatible in terms of living side by side. I asked him for citations (and also my close friend, who is working on his PhD in biochemistry), and he kept stalling on and on (at first it was because he was out celebrating his birthday, then basically just because), and then we stopped talking. (Meanwhile my friend found citations saying that it was overwhelmingly bullshit, and in fact he found an article showing Yoruba people lack a mutation found in white and Asian people that caused aggressive behaviour.)

Eventually I tagged him in a post asking him if he agreed with the harassment Jews in Whitefish, MT over rumours that they were harassing his mother. Eventually we ended up in an argument where he said it was only natural for people to lie and have double standards when it comes to theirs and an opposing view, and that he wanted me to drop dead. I strongly rejected that notion and pointed out how I’ve criticized leftist over and over for their lies; he conceded I was morally superior but he didn’t think that mattered.

In private I expressed my disappointment with him. I told him I’d thought better of him and his interest in having a serious debate; he responded, ‘The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you.’ The nerve of a guy using ‘Kozak hanigzel’ on a Hebrew speaker from Israel… Man was that disappointing. I blocked him.

At any rate, I blocked him. A day or two later, when I wanted to see if he was swamped with anons for this and getting lots of shit for basically admitting his ideology was indefensible, but his blog was already deleted. I want to believe he realized this himself, that he needed to do some real thinking if a ‘degenerate’ like me proved his moral superior, but I can never know.

These two interactions and some others have led me to wonder if sincere Nazis, who are actually good but horribly misguided people, were mostly women. I wonder.

Ultimately, I feel really sorry for Nazis of the latter kind, and the alt-right crowd in general. From what I’ve seen, they’re really miserable people: they think of love and sex in terms of conquest and keeping what they got (hence the constant talk about ‘cucks’, who are too ineffectual to keep their ‘property’ theirs), not actual human connection. They’re so obsessed with power and maintaining and demonstrating it that they seem to have no concept of genuine compassion: they write it all off as ‘virtue signalling’, i.e. pretending to be virtuous for the sake of some kind of social capital. They’re so bitter they’ve become obsessed with spite, talking so much about ‘liberal tears’ they barely argue their own position. There’s such a deep sense of fear and loneliness and resentment there, and when they don’t scare me, I feel really sad for them.

On the other hand, I’d like to say a few words about anti-Nazis:

The attack on Richard Spencer triggered a whole lot of posts on Tumblr about how punching Nazis is not only justified but morally mandatory (because Nazis could never reform, you see, and were necessarily evil), which I strongly objected to on the grounds that Nazis were a diverse group, with many motivations and backgrounds, and responding to them with violence could be counterproductive in many cases (I cited Lamb & Lynx Gaede, the aforementioned Meeink, and all the KKK members Daryl Davis has dissuaded: all of them converted by peaceful means). I’ve seen people shamelessly call me a ‘Nazi sympathizer’ by some people on that website, and at one point I wanted to take legal action, considering the kind of harassment that accusation could lead to.

The same kind of belligerent attitude is found in the far left as well. Those ‘beat the Fascists where you find them’ anti-Nazis seem to be far more preoccupied with letting out aggression against rivals than actually dismantling their threatening ideology. They’re only marginally better, and also suffer from similar ills (e.g. incessant lying) and some others (e.g. scouting for perceived ideological rivals to unleash aggression on). This is why I’ve pretty much left Tumblr altogether.

[iwantthedean]

Angel Among Us (Finale)

Sequel to The Demon’s Pet.

Part Ten: Choice

Word Count: 2385

Pairing: MoC!DeanxOFC

Summary: Dean and Zephaniah’s story continues as he fights against The Mark of Cain taking hold, and she avoids waging war with Heaven.

Warnings: Language, character death. Canon-typical violence. 

Masterlist

A/N: Another series down! This is the finale for Angels Among Us, but there will be another installment to this story! Thank you to everyone who has followed the first two installments; I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, this story is very near and dear to my heart. Your support means the world! 

In the hours since he had left the bunker, Dean had considered returning a handful of times. He knew that if he did return, it would be Zephaniah’s undoing. He could not let himself be the death of her, so, despite the urge to stay close to her, Dean left the picture on her pillow and left with the Impala.

His plan was sketchy at best. The way Dean figured it, he was the only being with The Mark on Earth anymore. No one could kill him; he would come back as a demon again. As freeing as that experience had been, it had carried a lot of awful things with it as well. His only option was to go to some place where no one could find him, and where he could no longer harm anyone, be it directly or indirectly. He was going to need some help with that.

Dean drove to a bar several hours outside of Lebanon. He set up the spell to summon Death on the trunk of the Impala, then went inside to wait.

 Zephaniah brought the picture to Sam as soon as she could move herself from the spot in Dean’s room where she had been frozen for several minutes as she tried to process that Dean had left them in the time they needed him the most.

“Where could he possibly have gone?” Zephaniah demanded. “We are about to be in the middle of a war with Heaven, and he bails!”

Sam set the picture on the table and crossed his arms over his chest. “When are you going to realize that everything Dean does – okay, most things Dean does, is because he thinks it’s what’s best for you? He has done the same for me since he was four years old, Zeph. Dean take a burden on himself and he won’t unshoulder it until he’s the one who has taken care of it. My guess is, he’s off trying to do exactly what you did when you lied and told him you weren’t safe for him, or went off to Israel.”

Zephaniah’s shoulders slumped. “Why now, Sam? Why now, when we need him more than ever to just be with us?”

Sam shrugged. “I honestly don’t know. All I know is that we have to be ready for this, with or without him, so when he does come back – and I know he will, he always does – we’re still standing.”

Zephaniah nodded. She picked up the picture and turned away from Sam, intent on taking the picture back to Dean’s room. Before she could get more than a few steps away, the walls of the bunker began to shake. The floor beneath her feet was still, so Zephaniah knew it wasn’t an earthquake. She shoved the picture in her pocket and, turning a deaf ear to Sam’s yells for her to come back, ran to Dean’s room for the Dies Irae.

She was going to need it.

The bartender refilled Dean’s drink and asked if he was sure the person he was waiting on was going to show.

“Don’t know why he wouldn’t,” Dean shrugged. “He always does.”

“Not this time.”

Dean turned towards the voice sitting next to him; it was familiar but he couldn’t place it until he laid eyes on the vessel sitting next to him.

“Gabriel?”

With a snap of Gabriel’s fingers, everyone else in the bar disappeared. “Long time no see, Dean. How’s tricks?”

“I might ask you the same damn thing,” Dean retorted. “And as much as I’m absolutely ecstatic about this little reunion, I’m waiting on someone. So you’ll have to forgive me if I take a raincheck.”

Gabriel tossed an empty peanut shell over the counter. “Right, Death. Not coming.”

“Excuse me?”

“Death is not coming to meet you today,” Gabriel said.

Dean raised his brow. “Any particular reason why?”

Gabriel turned on his barstool to face Dean. “Because today is not your day to die. It’s not your day to run away, either. I know what’s going on with Zephaniah and Nathaniel and the war that’s coming. Do you really think that extracting yourself from the equation will stop it?”

“I do, actually. Isn’t that what this war is about? Zephaniah refusing to help them stop me?”

Gabriel snorted. “If only it were that simple. Zephaniah killed three angels. She goes against the natural order of things at nearly every turn. I’m not saying I don’t agree with her for the most part, don’t get me wrong.”

“Then what are you saying?” Dean pressed.

Gabriel looked him directly in the eye. “I’m saying that this war isn’t just about you anymore. Nathaniel is a peacekeeper, and Zephaniah does not keep the peace. He wants to stop her. The only way to do that, is to take her down.”

“But if she’s killed, everyone around her dies, too.”

“That’s a risk Nathaniel is willing to take, for the greater good.” Gabriel rolled his eyes. “My brothers have good intentions, but they’re idiots in the way they go about things. Dad’s not around to keep them in control, so they take matters into their own hands.”

Dean finished off his drink. “You’re saying I should go back.”

Gabriel tilted his head. “I’m strongly encouraging it. We’ve got to account for free will here.”

Dean shook his head and let out a small chuckle. “So why you, Gabe? Why the trickster?”

“I wasn’t always a trickster,” Gabriel reminded. “I was once the Messenger of the Lord. This is important enough, Dean, I’ve been called to that again.”

“And what’s the message? Don’t give up?”

“Yeah, don’t give up,” Gabriel said, “because if you give up, Zephaniah is done for. She’s right when she tells you that the two of you aren’t soulmates – you’re something more than that. When God saw that the chain of human events would eventually lead to this, you were already in the plan. He knew that you would need someone to fight next to you, and that it needed to be someone more than Sam. It was then that he created Zephaniah.”

Dean’s brow fell into a quizzical expression. “She was made for me?”

“She was made for you. The pull between the two of you is not only The Mark. Yes, The Darkness wants Zephaniah’s soul, but the connection between the two of you was made the day you rescued her from that warehouse. You can walk away from Sam – you can, and you have. You’ve left him on his own, thinking it was what was better for him. Zephaniah on the other hand – you will always go back to her.”

Dean thought on all of that for a few moments before sliding off the barstool. “Thanks, Gabriel. Let’s just hope she believes me when she hears all of this.”

Gabriel gave him a single nod, calling Dean back before he reached the door. “I would hurry if I were you.”

The archangel didn’t have to go into detail for Dean to read the meaning in the statement. Dean hurried out to the Impala, fishtailing out of the parking lot and speeding down the highway towards the bunker.

 Castiel, Rowena, and Crowley had joined Sam by the time Zephaniah returned with her knife. They stood in a close circle, watching as the warding on the bunkers walls glowed before plaster and brick began to fall, breaking the sigils. Their glow faded out, and the door of the bunker fell with a loud thud.

A group of ten angels entered the bunker, and Zephaniah assumed that the one leading the group was Nathaniel. Her countenance portrayed strength and courage, but her heartbeat and rapid breath betrayed her.

“You can still give this up, Zephaniah. Your chance has not entirely passed. Heaven is still willing to take on your acceptance of the mission to stop The Darkness from being released,” Nathaniel told her.

Zephaniah shook her head. “When I told Josiah I would not betray Dean the first time I was dragged to Heaven about this matter, I meant it. That answer was not a rash decision, an initial reply while I thought things over. My answer is the same.”

“In that case,” Nathaniel began, his angel blade slipping into his hand, “you put the fate of your life into our hands.”

“So be it.”

There was a moment of calm before Nathaniel struck out at her, as there always was before a fight like this began. The angels accompanying Nathaniel spread out to take on her cohorts, leaving their leader to deal with the true problem.

She was able to dodge most of Nathaniel’s strikes. The ones he was able to land were painful but not fatal. Zephaniah couldn’t get close enough to him to use the Dies Irae, and her frustration with that fact was quickly turning to anger. True to form, her anger spurred her on and she was able to land one solid gash to Nathaniel’s arm.

“Not bad,” the angel chuckled, “for a human.”

He lunged at her again, and Zephaniah narrowly evaded the attack. Her instinct told her she needed help, but a quick glance around the room told her that the rest of those on her side were dealing with saving their own lives at the moment.

Zephaniah had to do something. Changing her grip on the knife, she ran at Nathaniel, tackling him to the ground. It was clear that the wound from the Dies Irae was draining his power, little by little, and Zephaniah could see that they were becoming more and more evenly matched as the blood continued to drip from Nathaniel’s arm.

She had the blade in her hand poised over the angel’s heart when her attention was momentarily stolen by the man coming down the stairs, running towards her and calling her name.

“Dean,” Zephaniah breathed, unable to control the smile tugging at her lips.

Her distraction would be her downfall. Nathaniel took advantage of her divided attentions and shoved his angel blade into her side. Her eyes went wide as she fell away, gripping the site of the new wound, and the world around them began to quake like never before.

Seeing that the majority of the other angels had been overtaken, Nathaniel ordered those remaining to retreat with him. Zephaniah was nearly dead anyway; their job here was done.

The pain began to fade and fingers of cold crept over Zephaniah’s entire body. She gurgled and coughed as blood welled up from her belly and dribbled out of her mouth.

“Zeph, look at me,” Dean said, rushing to her side and pulled her into a sitting position. “Hey, look at me. You’re going to be all right.”

“It’s over now,” Zephaniah said between struggling breaths. “I’m sorry I couldn’t save you.”

More bricks and plaster fell from the ceiling. Lamps crashed from tables and books tumbled off of shelves. No one could stand anymore, as the ground beneath them tossed and turned.

“I’m the one who couldn’t save you,” Dean said. “I’m so sorry. This is on me. It’s all on me.”

“You can’t stay here. You have to go,” Zephaniah ordered him. She was beginning to gasp for breaths between words, and the rafters from the ceiling were cracking apart, preparing to come down on them any second.

“I won’t leave you,” Dean promised, kissing her forehead and pushing the hair out of her face.

Zephaniah glanced at his arm and saw it – The Mark of Cain. The thing that had gotten them here today. She could let them all die, let Heaven win, or she could sacrifice herself to save them all.

It took the last of the energy Zephaniah had to reach out and grip Dean’s arm, her hand firm over The Mark.

“Yes,” she said.

Dean frowned, and Zephaniah knew he didn’t understand what was happening. That was all for the best, she decided, as reality began to fade, and Zephaniah slipped away into nothingness.

 By some sort of miracle, the bunker was restored nearly the same moment that Zephaniah had uttered her last word. Dean still wished he could have made out what she was saying, that he could have made some sense of that last moment with her.

Her body was laid out on his bed now. He had sat by her for hours, waiting for it all to be a horrible nightmare. No matter how hard Dean prayed, how long he waited, Zephaniah did not stir.

The argument with Sam and Castiel over burying her or burning her was perhaps the most intense Dean had had with his brother and best friend. He refused to give her a hunter’s funeral; burning her body meant that there was no bringing her back. Perhaps he would further damn himself in the process, but Dean knew that he could not go on without Zephaniah.

He returned to his room, prepared to carry her outside of the bunker where they had all agreed Zephaniah would be buried, but she was gone. Her limp body was no longer weighing on his mattress.

Panicked, Dean spun around to alert Sam and Castiel, but the very being of his concern stopped him in his tracks.

“Hello, Dean.”

Zephaniah’s smile was hers. Her voice was hers, and her hair and her body. The clothes were her own, the way she did her makeup. Dean’s heart relaxed, until his mind could process the two things Zephaniah now possessed that had not belonged to her before.

Reaching for that familiar spot on his arm, Dean realized The Mark was gone. It was now situated comfortably just below Zephaniah’s collar bone, given away by the low-cut shirt she was wearing.

Yes.

Dean replayed the moment just before Zephaniah died in his mind. Her grip on his arm, right where The Mark had been, and her last word.

Yes.

Zephaniah had said yes to The Mark, and then she had died – only for as long as The Mark would allow. She had come back, but the Zephaniah standing in front of Dean now was not the Zephaniah he knew. No, this was a new Zephaniah, one with The Mark of Cain burned into her chest and eyes Dean didn’t recognize staring back at him.

Those demonic, black eyes.

[janiedean]

What do you think of this video? /watch?v=JNu4xU9qOEM I mean, I think it's safe to assume you'll disagree because he's a Trump supporter and you aren't, but I'd just like to hear your thoughts on the points that he made, like for example when Obama banned immigrants from Iraq for 6 months in 2011 and no one complained.

.... I started watching this and RIGHT AS I WAS this post shows up on my dash. and like it addresses 90% of the stuff this guy is saying, never mind that obama’s list of countries that trump now banned entrance for never turned into, like, NOT ALLOWING *MOST OF THEM IN* as that post explains. ha. ha. ha.

(also I wish people from that side didn’t bring lybia up as OMG OBAMA WENT TO WAR AND HILLARY WAS THE ONE BEHIND IT - they attacked lybia because if I recall correctly MOST PEOPLE WHO HAD INTERESTS IN GHEDDAFI BITING IT INCLUDING SOME LYBIANS were making it understood that helping out would have been appreciated, and given that it seemed like the arabian spring and whatever was going to be A Thing TM they decided it was a good move which completely fucking backfired but it wasn’t all on... obama and clinton, gdi. I mean, US imperialism and democracy exports aren’t my fave thing ever but let’s be fair here the blame here is to be shared by a bunch of people. nvm that boats of migrants going down in the sea has been a problem long before then but lol who ever gave a shit until pictures of dead children washing up on shores went viral? surely not this dude or anyone else except us and the greeks.)

also jesus this guy’s tone is grating on my nerves like sound a bit less gloating man

‘europe hasn’t welcomed in thousands of jihadists’ this guy is a fucking moron MOST PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WERE JIHADISTS IN EUROPE AND COMMITTED ACTUAL TERRORIST ATTACKS WERE NOT REFUGEES THEY WERE SECOND GENERATION IMMIGRANTS THAT GOT RECRUITED AND BRAINWASHED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY’RE A PARTICULARLY WEAK SUBJECT obv there has been also attacks from some refugees but most of them ALREADY LIVED HERE AND THE FRENCH ONES WERE BORN IN FRANCE GOOD FUCKING GRIEF

also his problems with sadiq khan are compeltely fucking ridiculous when he said we’ll have to live with terrorism it’s BECAUSE WE HAVE TERRORISM IN OUR CONTINENT NOW AND WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AND LIVE WITH IT IN THE SENSE BEING ON ALERT GDI

trudeau article ‘according to UNNAMED SOURCES QUOTED BY CBC’ idek if it’s a decided thing or no but then he complains about media manipulation?

the assassination person is an idiot since they might be arrested for tweeting that so he has a point there

‘then consider adding more countries to the list’ jesus fucking christ I thought the bush jr era spawning the pseudo-left was bad but the right wing spawn by the bush jr era is even worse what the fuck sure solve your problems banning ppl WHEN YOUR COUNTRY IS BUILT ON IMMIGRATION AND YOU FUCKED THINGS OVER FOR THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE

21% of the population with a favorable view of ISIS is ABOUT THE ENTIRE POPULATION NOT THE REFUGEES ONLY WHA T THE FUUUUCKKKKKKKK

SURE THING HEY 3/4THS OF SYRIA’S POPULATION ARE DEAD OR REFUGEES BUT LET’S JUST LEAVE THEM TO DIE BECAUSE THEY MIGHTSUPPORT ISIS AND THAT 21% MIGHT NOT INCLUDE ACTUAL ISIS PPL whatever

also ‘islamic countries that ban israeli’ yeah but PLACES THAT DON’T HAVE STATE/CHURCH SEPARATION SAME AS YOU... never mind that israel isn’t even recognized by a bunch of states for reasons, but doesn’t mean that you can turn people out just bc you can

that said this guy is an idiot tho he does have a few points, and you know why he has a few points?

bc people in the american left from what I see CANNOT FUCKING RECOGNIZE THAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT YOUR POLITICIANS’ FLAW. obama’s administration wasn’t all roses and flowers (tho for the US it was more than trump and the republicans want you to believe) and I haven’t seen many people around here talking about the worse aspects, so this guy now can go around and say he was just as bad or smth and twisting the facts and what are you gonna tell you if you most probably didn’t know because god forbid you vote for someone knowing the entire list of stuff they did while understanding that politicians can do both good and bad things and no one who gets into politics get out of it with clean hands?

also re the iraq thing: I refer to article above. never mind that I went looking into it in deeper just in case and OBAMA NEVER BANNED ANYONE, the screening process was made more complicated and the flow was slowed bc two iraqi terrorists were arrested in kentucky or smth and the congress wanted obama’s head or smth from what it seems from that article, so they revised the procedure and the processing SLOWED DOWN a lot and for six months not many people got in but it still never was a ban. people still came in even if it was in smaller numbers.

like.

media manipulation my ass. jfc he’s nowhere near as honest as he likes to make people think but hey, it’s just the left manipulating the facts or alt facts! yeah, okay, nope. also no one complained because there wasn’t a ban and it wasn’t an executive order freezing a bunch of people maybe?

[gndmwngdly]

All right everyone a lot of the much Trump sold out on the wall chills have gone completely silent in the last 24 hours I wonder why I could be Oh Trump came out and said hey if Congress tries to circumvent my national emergency declaration to allocate while funding I'll veto it. So essentially what he's doing is throwing down the gauntlet and challenging all the nevertrump errs to actually attempt to stop as look it is going to be such a bloodbath for Republicans in Congress if they tried to stop him from building as wall because a lot of these people come from districts where the wall is popular you gotta realize this isn't an entirely partisan issue but there are definitely places in the country where it is considerably more popular than not and then there are places in the country where it's an unpopular. If you go to San Francisco and you pull people should we build a wall on the southern border it'll probably be like you know 70% will say no now let's say you go to small-town America pretty much anywhere but especially along the border yeah you're gonna get overwhelming support for it lot of Republicans come from small town in rural America. Yes I am sure that some rural congressmen from a district in Texas that doesn't have a city of more than 15,000 people is gonna try to stand in Trump way. I'm not sure that there are enough Republicans in the House and Senate to override such a veto and what if they fail ,what if they fail that in a legislative sense they're gonna Foothill force negotiations here's what I think he's trying to do the national emergency declaration is it has an injunction by him to the Ninth Circuit of course issued against him he has to take it before SCOTUS that could take years he's already requested that they take it up if they probably will I think they'll hand Trump a victory but he'll need a second term for that to kick in but there's another possibility; force the legislature to try to circumvent it hope that they fail once they fail say look come and negotiate I don't want to have to be doing this but we got to secure the border give me the wall and we'll see what I can do for you because I'm a reasonable person I'm the negotiator and chief which is exactly what Trump gave them with his prior deal. He did secure  one quarter of the wall funding that he wanted it's only for a very short piece of border in one particular critical but one particular location it falls far short of what he ultimately needed and then again a few thousand extra Border Patrol agents in in the like the the legal crossing areas, like border agents to staff those I mean it's an improvement over what we have it does give him some wall. There was a video of it and the left's tried to claim that that was just a revamping of an existing walls like yes they're replacing a fence with a wall that's the whole point of this entire thing most of the barrier that Trump wants is to replace subpar existing barriers either steel or regular fencing and embankment something like that with something that is considerably larger and more formidable that's essentially what is what is being done it's adding some new border although he can't do that yet because of the bill he signed the thing is though that bill didn't prevent him from passing the emergency declaration. He's saying I want billions more to complete the rest of this project the Supreme Court I believe will side with him because they will say it is absolutely within the purview of the executive branch to understand that when millions of people are pouring into your country illegally that rises to the level of the national emergency. If it were happeningto a nation with less population italready would have been it would have resulted in the militarization of the entire border Trump's not even talking about that Trump is saying that at certain critical junctures the National Guard is gonna have to step in because there are caravans of tens of thousands of people entering they are entering alongside further there are people that are entering as economic migrants all they want is a job which by the way still is is not proper they're not an asylum seeker the people tend to have more mercy towards them but what about the cartel member that filtered in what about the human trafficker what about the drug meal you know you know some 10 year old kid is is bloated with cocaine going across the border illegally well you know you're incentivizing that to happen you're incentivizing the worst acts of depravity possible when you leave the border porous because people in those vulnerable situations more than half of the women are getting sexually assaulted in a large proportion raped on the way here. A lot of them are getting enslaved. A lot of them are getting addicted they're getting used by cartels this is not acceptable. The nation of Mexico with with a socialist populist vaguely leader is doing more to stop this right now than our own congresses including some Republicans shame on them, absolute travesty. so Trump I support strongly in declaring a national emergency. The bill that he signed is there like whoa it looks like it's a.m. to Steve no it's not it's the how the is a TM Nestico K so you're Spencer saying that you're going to detain fewer people at these holding facilities then build the wall no problem you won't have anyone to detain why would you need so many beds in these facilities? oh my god it frees up money for refugees look that's fine yeah mebbe uh give them money so they're not at the border while it's still porous so that you can build your wall. Then they gave money to Israel but that  gets worked into basically every defense bill so that's a normal part of the budget one that I happen to oppose at this point it's like it's laughable today we got huge amounts of debt can't secure our border can't pay our pensions, we can't pay for infrastructure, we can't pay for our military, we can't pay veterans, we can't pay for anything here we give tens of billions of dollars a year to this one other state let alone all the other countries we give foreign aid to we should there should be a constitutional amendment against a penny being given any foreign nation until at least our own budget is balanced in some proper order slash the size of government and pay other nations if you want to get rid of the EPA they don't do anything anyway at this point yeah you might as well get rid of DHS because Congress won't let them do their job they won't they won't hire enough agents they won't build a barrier they won't lay they won't let them response it's a catch-and-release on steroids because of a bunch of idiot Democrats in the House of Representatives a bunch of fools the Democratic Party at this point is fundamentally taken up the position that it is wrong it is it is bad for us to actually even have a border if there's no coherent border defense it doesn't matter about the rest of the barriers you built Trump is trying to plug the gaps in the border I support it I think it's a good idea people have made little little mini docks and stuff like that like journals they go to parts of the border it's like yeah here's the border what is it's like a five foot like the little riveted steel thing with some barbed wire on it otherwise there's nothing there you could step over it you don't need to scale a fence you don't need to a jog through the desert at night with camouflage on you don't need to fight off coyotes now you just walk across it it's basically just a vehicle barrier there's no pedestrian barrier at most of the critical parts the work these are crossable areas and the only thing that's there is one layer of barbed wire that you'd snip athrough in ten seconds and maybe a camera on a cigar or cactus once in a while that's all that's there yeah I think that we should probably improve that I think it would probably help Border Patrol a little bit you know the Democrats have lost their minds so he's good at so yeah he's not selling out he's standing his ground he's like no I'm gonna veto any legislative attempt he's daring them by the way if they if they actually do attempt to circumvent it and they say well he's not allowed to have a national emergency and that all the Democrats will vote for it they're gonna look bad I'll hurt them in the elections I don't think that they realize how unpopular their stance really is they know you know all of the Democrats before said we needed a wall but then they stopped they shut up about it the second that they're elected Clinton did this, Obama did this, Carter did this, it's been going on since the 70s. Well you know there's a problem people are coming across the board we need to do something about it they get elected they don't do anything about it the only one that did was Ronald Reagan and it was a half-assed attempt that was again led by the legislature co-sponsored by Democrats was supposed to result in a proper physical barrier but that part fell through it never actually got made. Bush was all about all in border defense so gonna stop them terrorists from coming across Osama Bin Laden's gonna wander out of the desert and attack us it was like and then and he builds a little bit of fence and embankment that's basically all I did I think how much barrier did he complete like 50 miles or something Trump's already do I think exceeded thatnow he did that remember they gave him the first disbursement to plug a few gaps in the San Diego area by the way nobody apparently there has a problem with it they a cost and these others had to squash out their own reporting from on the ground now there will be some built in Texas and he's trying to gain that what is it 7 or 8 billion for everything else that he needs to do or feels he needs to do along the border. The Democrats now are leading the charge to stop the border from being secured. Do you realize how surreal this is? "Oh it's a waste of money" no it's not, you never said that before, you don't have any problem giving that amount of money to a foreign state while we don't even have it without printing money you know have a problem with that that's perfectly fine I think that that's a just shy of treason actually myself.

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Are people here that ignorant?? Hezballah have been attacking Israeli civilians for months now

Do you want us to just let yet another terror organisation attack us?

So if this is actually about Hamas, why are they bombing Lebanon right now?

You mean why is Hezbollah bombing Israel and displacing 80,000 Israelis from their homes?