#why Jonathan crane should be in a movie
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jcilyxx · 8 months ago
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Since your post about The Scarecrow being the main antagonist in a Batman movie was so brilliant I wanted to take my time with my response! 😊 In my personal opinion a Batman movie with The Scarecrow in it would be great if it was both about Bruce and Jonathan not just Bruce. I've heard many other Scarecrow fans often complain how poor Jonathan is sidelined, and used as a mere plot device in most cases. Thus his character has never been truly represented except for a few rare occasions in the comics. I have to say though their relationship was nicely established in Kings Of Fear. The movie should be split 50/50 between Bruce and Jonathan if that makes sense. They should utilize Jonathan's New Earth origin not his Prime Earth origin. Show him growing up in poverty in small town Georgia. A ideal way of showing Jonathan's character would be flashbacks of his childhhood plus life as a Psychologist/Psychiatrist and Professor. Kind of like his Year One comics. Flesh out his character more showing what motivates him like his desire for power and taking control of his life. His addiction to fear is a desperate attempt to overcome his own fears/insecurities. That's both the horrific and tragic part about Jonathan. His addiction started ever sense he felt power after causing Bo Griggs and Sherry Squires's car accident, and most likely after killing Mary. It's as though watching fear in other people induces a state of euphoria for him. One of the similarities between Bruce and Jonathan they don't touch on much is how they both suffer from Atychiphobia (fear of failure), and being seen as weak or inadequate. Bruce's own fear of failure is shown multiple times in BTAS episode Nothing to Fear, Arkham Asylum, and Kings Of Fear, etc. Their identities, Batman and The Scarecrow, are physical manifestations of their psychological states due to severe trauma. They both use their identities to instil fear as well. I think Jonathan's battle with Batman is a dark reflection of his own inner turmoil and struggles. Jonathan believes if he defeats Batman he can at last conquer his demons. Hence the reason why Jonathan hallucinates "Batman" when he's exposed to his own fear toxin every time Batman defeats him.
Though fear toxin is a formidable weapon it shouldn't be Jonathan's main weapon. Jonathan's true weapon is his genius intellect and psychological manipulation. A great comparison is Dr. Hannibal Lecter who's also a master Psychologist/Psychiatrist. Out of all of Batman's Rogues Gallery Jonathan is the most intriguing for sure, because of how unique he is from the rest. There's a video I highly recommend watching titled Why The Scarecrow should be Batman's Arch Nemesis. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9vdyQumKjsc&pp=ygUTbXIgcm9ndWVzIHNjYXJlY3Jvdw%3D%3D The Youtube channel in general, Mr. Rogues, is great! The main guy, plus a few other people, even created their own Arkham Patient sessions. https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbs0iJWwehs9a2HqqPu4ijxjneb3bmcY8 I personally enjoy his version of Dr. Jonathan Crane a ton. ❤️
Your depiction perfectly captures my vision!
I'd absolutely love to see his backstory developed further. Unlike most other villains, Crane's past hasn't been thoroughly explored, except briefly in Year One. Flashbacks to his upbringing would be a fantastic way to illustrate the bitterness and resentment that has likely been simmering within him. Including key moments from his childhood, such as his experiences with bullying and his early fascination with fear, would add depth to his character. Additionally, exploring his academic journey and the pivotal events that transformed him into the Scarecrow would provide a richer understanding of his motivations and the darkness that drives him.
Moreover, his fear toxin shouldn’t be his main weapon. While it is a significant aspect of his character, relying too heavily on it can overshadow the psychological and manipulative brilliance that truly defines him. Showcasing his strategic mind, his ability to exploit people's deepest fears without the toxin, and his mastery of psychological terror would create a more nuanced and formidable villain.
Crane should be the main antagonist of a movie because his unique brand of psychological horror sets him apart from other villains. His ability to instill fear and manipulate his victims' minds offers a fresh and thrilling dynamic for a storyline. His complex character, driven by a tragic and tormented past, provides ample material for an engaging narrative. By focusing on Crane, the movie can delve into deeper themes of fear, trauma, and the human psyche, offering viewers a more cerebral and emotionally gripping experience.
Additionally, Crane's methods can lead to visually stunning and haunting scenes. The hallucinatory effects of his fear toxin (if were to be used), combined with his eerie Scarecrow persona, create opportunities for striking cinematography and memorable, terrifying sequences. His psychological manipulation can also drive intense, character-driven drama, pushing Batman to confront his own fears and vulnerabilities.
Crane's presence as a villain would also allow for exploration of contemporary issues such as mental health, the impact of fear on society, and the consequences of trauma. These themes resonate with modern audiences, making the story not only entertaining but also thought-provoking.
Interestingly, Jonathan Crane and Batman share several similarities that makes their conflict even more compelling. Both are products of traumatic childhoods, with Crane experiencing bullying and isolation, while Bruce Wayne witnessed his parents' murder. This shared experience of early trauma drives their obsessions—Crane's with fear and Batman's with justice. Both characters are also highly intelligent and use their knowledge to achieve their goals; Crane through his expertise in psychology and fear, and Batman through his detective skills and technological prowess. Additionally, both operate in the shadows, using fear as a tool—Crane to terrorize, and Batman to combat crime. This parallel between them, which I think was excellently shown in Kings of Fear (which you mentioned), highlights their complex relationship and the thin line between heroism and villainy.
Anyways sorry if this is long—I just have so many ideas for this, and the way you described it so perfectly really sparked even more interest in me! 🫶🏻❤️
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vintagecandy · 8 months ago
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Now for the 1920s reimagining of Jonathan Crane ! sorry this explanation is even longer lmao
As everyone's been saying, I should do the rest of the Dork Squad to match 1920s Jervis, and so here is my Jonathan! Easily the hardest to draw out of the three-- but I must say! Despite being outside my expertise, I'm a little surprised how much it looks exactly like I was imagining! Even if it took me ages but that's just procrastination lmao.
Anyways! What is his deal? Well, for one, design wise I did go a more drastically different direction from his usual look by doing a literal scareCROW. He's much more bird like, with a plague doctor mask being common imagery in steampunk, but he's still very southern themed with his messy broken overall strap and patchwork coat. Even his wings are rustic. ( he can't fly just glide btw lol ) Also! I leaned hard into the color orange instead of his usual green gas because it..... bugs me that both Crane and Nygma have a bright green in their color palette. I just want them to have distinct colors if they're going to be a trio. And look how vintage halloweeny he looks !!
So why is he so well dressed out of costume? Well! This Jonathan Crane is not a psychologist at all, here he is the very successful grandfather of horror movies in the silent film era. ( An illustrious origin, i hope canon Crane would be proud lmao ). This is referenced in how his face looks, he's wearing white powder and black makeup that's usually meant to emphasize key features on blurry film like his upper lip and around his eyes. And yes, he just keeps his makeup on during most events, and people just accept he's a little on the... eccentric side.
To me, the archetype of the mad artist fits Jonathan's vibe perfectly. When it comes to striking fear, he's a perfectionist, a trait that drove him to learn every single skill necessary himself, from costume design to props to making his own cameras to mechanical engineering, to.... a "fear gas" that was supposed to gently encourage immersion in the audience but ended up becoming a dangerous chemical weapon.
For his origin crime I am thinking !! Full blown Scooby Doo style monster mystery!! With some nuance! Crane, as a first impression, gives off an immediate air of pompous, aggressively impatient, pretentious director type. His presence is big and dramatic, but its distinctly not southern-- in fact, he seems to play up something between a hollywood accent and a thespian one. But this is all to cover for his farm hick background that he was once very ashamed of.
As a child of a failing farmhand during an infamously dry and dusty era, Jonathan developed an extreme resentment for his country existence from both the bullying of other children for all his strange quirks and the severe verbal and physical abuse of his father, driven to alcoholism by the stress of poverty and the loss of his wife. Originally offering his artistic ideas as a means to help them, he grows sick of their closed mindedness and berating and runs away to learn about the emerging potential of film in Gotham City.
Its been many years, Jonathan now in his early 30s, he finds himself surrounded by the shallow, champagne aristocrats that reflect his childhood bullies. Feeling wrong in his own skin, he develops a sightly unhealthy obsession with the escapism he finds in performing as the monsters in his movies.
But upon discovering that the corrupt rich of Gotham plan to push legislation that would negatively effect farmers like his own history, and that they expected him to be amongst those who support it, his irritation with the shallowness of society reaches its limits. In day, he would feign support for their behavior to cover his tracks, but at night he would don the mask of the Scarecrow, rumored to be the vengeful spirit of a farmer who was hanged, and who he believes to be a more freeing expression of himself than his true face, targeting not just the rich but striking fear in their laborers to scare them off land. And it works. So, he tries bending the will of society more.
Is he doing this out of any moral conviction or just spite and a love for the role? It's... hard to say.
As the Scarecrow, his methods are so effective he's near uncatchable, even by Batman. Its only by solving the mystery of who is under the mask are they able to catch him. They surprise him during one of his screenings, jump him in the dark, and prove his subtle use of fear gas in the theater to the police once he's cornered. Instead of being angry, he goes to the mad house applauding Batman's performance.
What an interesting character they play. He's very inspired.
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summercourtship · 4 months ago
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those halloween prompts look so fun!! can i request dialogue 11 (is someone scared) in a watching a scary movie setting with jonathan?
really this is just a dialogue exercise with them. i miss writing their little banter-y conversations lol.
a scary movie. | jonathan crane x f!reader
warnings: non-explicit mentions of disturbing films | word count: 436
Jonathan rarely watched movies with you. It just wasn’t the kind of domesticity the two of you regularly engaged in, and you certainly don’t expect him to offer to show you films. Whenever he did suggest you watch a movie, it was more so to see your reaction to the images on the screen than to actually enjoy the shared experience of being entertained. So, realistically, you should have expected it to be something fucked up or casually traumatizing, especially this close to Halloween. 
Almost halfway through the film (which was something that had definitely been banned in at least two countries), he turned to look at you. You, sitting still in your seat and staring at the TV blankly, barely even registered him staring at you. 
“Is someone scared?” He asked with a slight mocking lilt to his voice, leaning back against the couch cushion as you slowly turned your head to look at him. You blinked once before scowling.
“Why can’t we watch fun things, ever?” God, you’d love to watch a movie you actually enjoyed with him. But your fantasy of cuddling under a blanket and watching a cozy film seemed to be just that- a fantasy. Jonathan was much more content to make you watch disturbing films that left you feeling hollow inside than to actually spend quality time with you. 
“This is fun.” He’s amused at your reaction, a small smile tugging at the corners of his mouth. 
“For you.” 
“I like seeing you get like this.” 
“Scared?”
“Yeah. I like seeing you afraid.” You don’t miss the gentle correction of your grammar and you huff, ignoring the way his eyes darkened at the statement. 
“...Maybe I don’t like being afraid.” 
“It’s good for you.” 
“Not in large doses, you know that.” 
“I do.” He smiled, taking one of your hands in his own and tracing the lines of your palm with a finger. “But you have to admit that you like the rush of it, the adrenaline pumping through your veins, the slight disorientation that comes once you realize you aren’t in any danger.” 
You watched with parted lips as he continues to lightly draw circles with his fingertip on your palm before you snatch your hand back. 
“Whether or not I like it is not the point.” 
“What is?” 
“That-” You paused, staring at him, trying to figure out what your point was. “I- I don’t need to explain anything to you.” You turned to face the film before wincing at the sight of a woman being sawed in half. “And I would like to watch something fun, for once!” 
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riddler-green · 2 years ago
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Tea for three. Prologue
Summary: You have been a patient/prisoner of Arkham for several months since you were charged with a crime you did not commit. But what happens when you meet Batman's latest enemy? the man of the hour? In which you help Batman on his cases, you're Edward's new favorite person, and Jonathan is part of your past that you want so badly to return to.
Edward Nashton x reader, Bruce Wayne x reader, Jonathan Crane x reader.
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A/n: Holaaa everyone! here I am posting another story that I thought of in a sleepless night, I think it's one of my most ambitious fics that I've been planning but that makes it cooler! I should clarify that this fanfic is mixed with the 2022 movie with the Nolan saga (but in such a minuscule way that it's barely imperceivable). I'm back from my vacation so I'll update my other work soon! ♡
I also want to clarify that English is not my first language, so an apologize for the spelling mistakes. ✧˖°. (My English is rusty :´p).
(Also this fanfic is published on AO3) ✿
Warning: Fluff and angst, Obsessive Behavior, Canon Compliant (the flood occurred, sorry) Movie spoiler (Batman 2022) if there is another warning I did not put, please let me know.
Words: 5,400
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You stroll as two guards lead you to a room, you don't know where they are taking you but it's not like you could complain either. The guards behind you ignored you all the way chatting with each other as if they were not watching an Arkham patient, they let you into the individual visiting room. Still, you nicknamed it the interrogation room because you only come here when that person requests your presence.
You sit down without a problem in the stiff metal chair, the approving noise of the iron partition sounds throughout the place, and you hear one of the guards closing the door leaving you alone with him.
At first, it was tedious, even traumatic in a way to come to this room to talk to the person who captured you and brought you to Arkham without hesitation. You couldn't refuse to see him, not when the caped man is a colleague of an important commissioner. No matter how many times you told him, how many times you yelled at him that you were innocent, he either didn't believe you or just wouldn't listen. You got tired of telling everyone around you that it wasn't your fault, none of them listened to you.
The metal partition rises completely, and little by little you see the almost imperceptible figure of the knight of the night. He kept silent without sitting down, standing in front of you analyzing you as everyone does nowadays, but you no longer care what he thinks of you, you are practically a hopeless case for him.
"Hello?" your greeting sounded confusing, you were not expecting a visit from him, but you have an idea why he comes to you, on certain occasions he shows you cases of different indoles, also that he has found some clue of the…
"I'm looking for the Riddler" He doesn't greet you and moves closer to the glass that separates them, you can take a better look at him, he's still the same since the last time you saw him, his attire nor his face have changed at all, but you notice something different in his voice, is it tiredness you hear?
"The Riddler?" you look at him unclear as to what he means "Who is that?".
"A serial killer" he informs you, you often hear those terrible words from him, how often does Batman chase killers like that, it's like there's one every week, it's cruel but it's the truth, Gotham is the cradle of evil, hell on earth, some would say.
"And what have I got to do with him?" you ask hesitantly.
Batman leaves a gray folder in the crack that connects the two rooms as if it were a mailbox "I need to know your perspective".
For a moment you thought about rejecting whatever is in that folder, but your curiosity won you over, you slowly grabbed the folder somewhat heavy because of the many sheets stored, on the cover of the folder you can see a CLASSIFIED in capital letters, that fuels your interest even more and you open the folder.
It's a lot to take in at once, you open your eyes from the initial shock, you haven't seen so much blood since your clinical internship days, you close the folder for a few seconds to recover, and you look Batman in the eye with a frown, he didn't even warn you how grotesque the case could be. 
Batman looks back at you completely seriously, he looks immutable and silent. You open the folder again and are greeted by the same disturbing images "Wow, it's something " you comment uneasily.
You see the evidence, black and white photos of the murders stapled to the autopsy reports, it is amazing how this man can have such information. the more time you spend reading the events and the evidence the more disturbed you become. 
Mayor Don Mitchell Jr, mayor of Gotham for several years, you saw him once at a social event done by Gotham University, he was happy and smiling maybe because of the excess alcohol in his veins. but now you look at the crime scene, his face completely wrapped in duct tape.
"No more lies..." you whisper reading the message on the corpse of the mayor, then that was with an already established motive, to give a statement.
On the other hand, Commissioner Savage's body is barely recognizable, the cage on his head says it all.
This is no ordinary killer.
What have you gotten yourself into, batman?
"why are you showing me this?" you manage to ask him even with the murders fresh in your mind, you don't think you will sleep tonight.
The already-seated masked man repeats to you "I need to know your perspective".
"As a patient or as a psychologist?" technically you can no longer practice your career since they took away your degree, but he doesn't correct you, you peruse everything that was offered, the riddles, the pictures of all the letters he has left for Batman, descriptions of the crime scene, write-ups of the witnesses who found the bodies.
"Both" he declares.
The handcuffs on your wrists do not give you much freedom to move your arms but do not prevent you from handling the documents in the folder, if Batman thought this might interest you he was right, for better or worse you did not stop seeing file after file.
"How extravagant," you say your first impressions "Brusque with his victims, he really is angry" You turn the page to see the pictures of his riddles "But he is also ingenious, this is not prepared from one day to another, he has been planning this for a long time, I would say years".
"Angry at who?" the man in front of you asks but you don't answer him instantly, you take your time carefully reading all the research, it's a lot for only one killer and few victims, but it's nothing that can be used to find him.
"With the world" you turn the page to see Commissioner Savage's crime scene photo "The pattern is evident, the mayor...the commissioner...does not kill ordinary civilians." 
"Do you think it's political?".
You barely smile at the mere idea that this is just politics "No, this is too intimate for him, riddles are an essential part of his life that he knows how to use to his advantage...and I only come to one conclusion..." you shut up and rearrange the documents to close the folder. 
"What is it?" batman questions you with intrigue in his voice.
You see him again, he must be desperate somehow to find this Riddler who asks for the opinions of third parties, of "crazy" people like you, something he dislikes, he prefers to work alone, that's his emblem. Deep down it angers you to no end, he hasn't caught your living nightmare and he's already looking for another asshole.
"That" you passed him the folder through the crack in the partition between rooms, and he retrieves it in his hands "Is revenge, Batman, and a very wicked one."
"Give me a diagnosis" he speaks faster, and the anger starts to seep into his face and it satisfies you to sometimes see him like this, frustrated Batman...yeah that's a first.
you smile and relax in your stiff metal seat "You should ask Dr. Crane for that, he's more prepared than I am, don't you think?".
"He refused" You'd know he'd turn it down, he's not like Batman or you, he doesn't even like to play Clue.
"yeah, he doesn't have the hobby of playing detective" you shrug your shoulders "I can't give you a diagnosis because it's little, he has left only what he wants us to know, maybe he includes you in this because he admires you or because he wants to kill you, who knows" you blurt out everything you think without any shame, in your mind you are already putting together a criminal profile with only what he gave you, but you won't tell him that, he doesn't deserve your help.
The masked man's posture tenses and he begins to clench his fists, your smile grows. 
"all that, all those little clues he leaves you make me think this is all a big riddle on his part" You pointed to the folder held by one of his gloved hands.
"I don't think he's going to stop until he sees everyone on his list dead."
What you told him seemed to affect him, because he suddenly gets up and goes to the door without looking at you, and he found no news "I can't waste time" he whispers with disdain, he leaves the room and you stand watching the door where he left.
So it's a riddle against the clock, huh? you think.
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The sky in Gotham looks like a landscape worthy to take a picture of, from here you can see the buildings of different heights, the traffic between highways, and the bridges, even if you force your sight you can see people walking.
"Do you like the view?".
You continue to look through the window reinforced with bars and tempered glass, the bars cover part of the landscape but you can still admire the beautiful gray sky full of clouds ready to rain.
"yes..." you say putting your hands between the bars without stopping to think how happy you would be just to be out of this abyss. you didn't appreciate the beauty of the freedom you had before you were here.
"What do you like most about the view?".
You take a few seconds to respond, the handcuffs on your wrists started to itch on your skin, that itch so normalized on your skin that you don't do much to get rid of that itch, you didn't look away from the window, this simple reinforced window brought you comfort for all these months.
"Everything."
"You hear the voice of your therapist repeat your answer and nod, will your cafeteria still be open? The Gotham Library will have finally added new books? the university will have already changed that horrible lamp in one of your favorite classrooms? 
Batman already caught the Riddler?
"What a good answer actually, but I need you to sit down for a further conversation, soon the session will be over" The doctor's professional tone makes you tense up, you feel like you are not talking to a human but to a fucking robot, that's how you have thought them since you were imposed to this therapist.
You listen to what you say and sit in the other chair where you are supposed to be for the whole session, however, Mr. M has let you have the sessions while you watch from the only window, you are grateful for that, even if you didn't like him at all.
"I have been informed about your good behavior this week, if you continue like this you can be given more access through the hospital" Mr.M speaks calmly looking through several documents held by a wooden board.
Fuck you, you thought but didn't tell him, you don't have the luxury of being rude to him. you'll never get the same freedom you got when you were still an average citizen of Gotham and it saddens you, it makes your blood boil to remember every moment of your existence that you're here unjustly.
"Thank you" You speak as little as possible because you know you would break down in tears just remembering that you are another day of your life wasted locked up among so many criminals.
"But" Mr.M stops looking at his documents to turn to look at you "I was also told that you refuse to take your medication, why is that?".
"Why don't I need them" you speak cuttingly again, the itch in your wrists grows and you scratch with your fingernails without realizing it.
"you have to take his medicine...it will make your recovery process more enjoyable" he grabs his tablet with documents and writes again, Mr.M does not scold you but you perceive it like this, you want to go back to your cell, you feel so ashamed that your skin gets hot, how did you come to this? How did you fall so low that you are the one they have to medicate? 
"Fine" you lie to him, you dislike the taste of the medicine they force you to take, you know perfectly well what they prescribe you, you studied for it after all.
But everyone seems to forget that.
Only Batman can recognize your abilities, but he does not help you at all in your case.
And well, you paranoidly believe that Jonathan is only talking to you out of unconscious guilt.
"Okey" Mr. M gives a soft smile "Just one last question before our time is up" he checks the time on his wrist watch "Have you made a new friend? Have you managed to get along with anyone?".
You avoid the gaze of your therapist "No" you denied, another issue you don't want to address, your notorious loneliness in this hospital. If it weren't for your unique best friend who works here, you would be all alone.
"Why?."
You don't answer him, you also question the same thing, you haven't had an interest to socialize with the other patients since you arrived, and there are still things that are not clear to you.
Mr. M sighs dropping his papers in a file cabinet near him "Well, I'll leave it as homework for you to start seeing new people, making a friend sounds excellent."
"I'll try" You don't lie to him.
"Perfect."
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It's been a day since Batman visited you and you had your weekly session with Mr.M, you haven't been able to sleep due to the tremendous curiosity of the new assassin the bat is looking for.
Just when you thought nothing could surprise you in this city since your accident, along comes a man with a question mark and puts the whole city in check, that's the city to him, a colossal chessboard, the DPGC, the Gotham elite, the citizens, they are all pieces in the game, and Batman and he are the only players.
Batman said he didn't have time, Does that mean that he has to catch him these days? how curious, with the Joker, it took months to find him, you were only intercepted in a couple of hours, and the Scarecrow...
no, you don't want to think about him.
You get distracted thinking about the Riddler again, you do your daily service arranging books in the small library of Arkham, your safe place where few or no people stop around these parts, here it is not necessary to use your wrist and neck cuffs, but your uniform is still on, and the plastic bracelet with your information identify you as a patient.
You yawn as you place a couple of worn-out books on the shelf, you felt like a bookstore worker, sometimes you usually fantasize that you are one to take away your boredom, but others usually burst your dreamy bubble.
Today, one of the guards decided to turn on the old-fashioned TV set in one of the upper corners of the library, you stand near a bookcase to see what channel they put on this time, usually they only put on the sports channel to watch the game of the moment.
But on this occasion, the guard put on the news channel, and you immediately put down the books you have to accommodate to concentrate on what is shown on TV.
The guard is still standing and so are you, both watching a live breaking news broadcast. The news anchor reports a new Riddler attack.
He bombed a prosecutor at the mayor's funeral.
The guard's face looked more and more frightened, you watched the news with morbid curiosity. Batman's new opponent seems more sadistic than you thought, that detailed report confirmed it.
But seeing their repeated acts on TV was shocking, you even heard the guard who put on the news say in a low voice " We are doomed. "
You silently agree with him, for the first time you are relieved to be locked away from all the chaos going on right now.
You saw how the explosion managed to reach Batman, surprising you as the guard, the man takes off his distinctive security guard hat when he sees the video, on the other hand, you are still stunned, not believing it, somehow you forgot that this man dressed in black and wearing a cape is still a human of flesh and blood, he simply can't die like that, not when he has things to save, people to capture.
He hasn't found your living nightmare yet.
Before you pull your hair out in frustration the news anchor states that Batman is still alive, the guard satisfied by the information puts his cap back on and returns to his guard position which is the entrance to the library.
You are still looking at the report, and suddenly the image of the man who calls himself the Riddler appears. You hadn't seen him in such detail until this moment, the photos in the Batman report were extremely blurry images, but this time he is in HD, he is completely wrapped in green clothes, and the only thing you can see of him, is his eyes. 
His voice is altered but you can notice that venomous tone of his he asked prosecutor Gil Colson some riddles, but in the end, he couldn't answer what Riddler wanted.
You sigh while grab another couple of books and start arranging them one by one. If Batman is still alive it means this isn't over.
"I knew I would find you here".
"It's not like I can go many places" You smile slightly turning to look at the man who spoke to you. 
Jonathan Crane, the living legend of the hospital, with tailored suits, no wrinkles in his coat, and a well-made tie that matches the sweater he wears under his coat. There isn't a single time you haven't seen Jonathan without his perfect appearance but maybe it's just you idealizing as usual. 
Jonathan gives you a polite smile "Right" Just by hearing that you know he won't stay to chat for long, he tends to contradict you most of the time just to annoy you and agree with you when he's busy.
"Are you coming to get a book?" you ask him the first thing that comes to mind.
"No, I wanted to talk to you before I left," he says adjusting his glasses "I'm going away for a couple of weeks to blüdhaven University to give lectures, it will be a simple thing" Your smile doesn't falter, you are touched that he lets you know when he won't be able to see you, and how he manages to keep the conversation so casual. 
As if they were still colleagues.
"Is that so? What will you talk about?".
"Childhood traumas" he reveals looking at you without any shyness, he has a barely perceptible smile but you notice it. 
"why am I not surprised?" you resume your work in arranging books "Although you know how to pick interesting topics, I wish I could attend" You recognize that Jonathan has been too devoted to his work and student life, he is that kind of strict professor who gives his students nightmares from the assignments and exams he gives. His lectures are fascinating, to say the least, you attended many.
"I'll tell you about it when I get back, in the meantime" From inside his suit he pulls out a  flyer in half "It's something extremely summarized but it'll do" You take the piece of paper and stuff it in one of your pockets. It's not the first time Jonathan smuggles things to you, god, you can even be sure he gives you something every time you see each other. 
"Thank you" you thanked looking at his face, he also remains silent looking at you, the eye contact between you is not something out of another world either, on your part, it's a habit that started when you were still studying, you can't help but want to observe everyone around you, analyze them somehow, see their behavior.
Jonathan does the same, but more rigorous and practical, he is direct and not afraid to say it, you see his hair combed to his liking, his glasses clean without any smudge, his eyes examining you. 
You leave your admiring mode when you diverted your gaze a little to the old TV that is still on, the news keeps showing the latest events of the hours, repeating the most recent crime of Riddler.
Your smile dims as you recall the video of the explosion, the prosecutor begging for mercy and the bomb stuck in his chest.
"Did you see what happened at the mayor's funeral?" you whisper to him in a low voice trying not to let anyone hear them, you look with your eyes for the guard on duty but you can't find him, Jonathan must have asked him for some privacy time, at times you forget the influence that the man in front of you has generated with years and effort.
He turns his head for a few seconds watching the news on TV and turns to look at you again with a sensible and neutral face. 
"yes, I saw it, I was there when it happened".
"What?" you utter with surprise "You were there?" there was no sign of a lie on his face to make you think he wasn't telling you the truth.
"Some teachers from the university we went to give condolences when the show happened" Jonathan clarifies simply, you approach him to talk closer, he doesn't seem upset "So it's true? Riddler attacked that prosecutor?".
"He killed him."
You shut up for a moment because of his statement, it's true, Riddler killed him, and almost Batman too.
"And Batman? Did you see him in action?" at this point you sound like first-rate gossip, but still Jonathan answers your questions, but is no longer as pleased doing so, the moment you mention Batman. 
"He arrived when most of the people had already been evacuated."
"Wow" you blurt out surprised, if you didn't know him better you would have been uneasy with his calmness when talking about the experience, he says it without any fear because that's exactly what's so special about Jonathan in your eyes, he's not afraid of anything.   
"Batman looked you up, didn't he?" Jonathan changes the subject quickly and you nod your head, you move away from his side to reach for a cart full of books to be arranged "He wanted my opinion on the riddler, can you believe it?" you laugh "I told him to look you up better, but you turned him down."
"That's right" he assures leaning on one of the bookcases for comfort, he looks at you picking up a book and you place it among several other books on another bookcase "I don't lend myself to that sort of thing".
"I know, killjoy Crane" you scoff boldly.
"Whatever you say" he sighs "I have to go, there will be a meeting at the university" Before you could say goodbye properly, he approaches you to give you an extremely momentary hug, it was so fast that you couldn't return the hug because he had already separated from you. You swore you could smell some of his cologne.
"uh yeah, see ya" You are barely able to utter the words without getting over the small contact they made, he has said goodbye to you like this, but you are still not used to it.
Jonathan smiles at you picking up his briefcase that you didn't see in the first place, walks to one of the tables where the TV control is, picks it up, and turns off the TV "I don't like you watching that" he tells you already heading for the exit where the guard re-enters the library.
You wrinkle your forehead due to irritation. Sometimes you don't understand Jonathan.
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You genuinely thought your head was going to explode from the pain. 
Being in Arkham meant being cut off from the outside, you had no idea of the chaos that erupted overnight, the perverse game of Batman and Riddler was so forceful, that Arkham unexpectedly came into the spotlight when the green-masked man was captured. An alert in your head went off when you heard from a very nervous guard. You thought it was almost impossible for Batman to catch Riddler, and that he's here being processed to this hospital gives a lot to suspect.
The report Batman showed you are not wrong, the madman of riddles is too elusive to be caught in such a short time.
Why? You ask yourself, why did he let himself be defeated?
The hospital was in chaos with the arrival of the new patient in the middle of the night, nurses running around, and security guards moving patients to different cells temporarily, you were taken out of your small cell to another one just as small and almost the same.
Even with suspicion in your being, you don't understand what all the fuss was about, not even when they paraded the Joker through the main hall in a straitjacket as if he were a villain from some movie did they get as upset as they are now with Riddler.  
You sat on your new bed just as hard as the one in your previous cell, not wanting to catch the social panic you try to meditate, Mr. M advised you to do so and since then you put it into practice.
Maintaining a state of relaxation is difficult but you have practiced it for months, you started the breathing exercises, and as you slowly inhale and exhale your thoughts begin to melt one after the other, calming you down, and making your anxiety about all the fuss disappear.
You exhale again and inhale hard again, you could be doing this all day, you have nothing to worry about, you're in your world, locked away from society, and must be recovering from whatever Riddler did as his closing snap.
You open your eyes and stop doing your breathing exercises, you hear a laugh. But not just any laughter, but a loud and annoying laughter, you instantly get up from your bed and run towards the door with a small glass window. The laughter was not your imagination, and you can recognize it now that you are closer to the door.
You don't see any guards guarding this section of cells, how strange. The laughter continues unabated. It must be some neighbor of your cell because of the proximity of the noise and you have an idea of who it might be but you ignore it for only a few minutes, you can't take it anymore and yell "Can you shut up for once?".
Your cell neighbor stops laughing and you can finally feel at peace, but instead starts a conversation.
"Scarecrow?" you close your eyes just hearing that horrible nickname he gave you at some point during his hospital stay. relatively the two have been in Arkham for a similar amount of time, both trapped by Batman and calling them the dark knight's worst enemies. 
But you could never compare yourself to someone like him Joker. 
You had a chance to get to know each other when you let him participate in common activities, you don't want to remember the first time you spoke to each other, it ended badly, period.
"Don't call me that, asshole" you insult him and he sounds pleased with your response.
"Ah! Are we sensitive today? It's a holiday! Let's celebrate!" 
"What the fuck are you talking about?"
"our guest of honor has arrived, only his final trick is missing!" he continues to speak in that animated voice that irritates you.
When you talk to the Joker you get that feeling that he is speaking in another language, but he is not, you understand what you are saying but at the same time, you don't. You also realized that he knows too much to be just an Arkham patient. 
But everyone at the hospital can assure you that your neighbor is not an ordinary patient at all.
This time you managed to understand his words, Riddler still has an ace up his sleeve, how could the Joker find out about that?
"Did Batman interrogate you too?".
"Of course he did...I'm his favorite!" he replies in the same arrogant manner as always "but I don't forgive him for being so crude on our anniversary."
"So you saw it, huh? I don't think this is a coincidence" You suppose the Joker must have seen it too, of course, he may be reciprocally insupportable but he's not stupid.
The clown laughs, but you don't, you didn't say anything funny in your opinion.
"Poor little Riddler, he thinks he can be just like him."
You ponder what he says, returning to your bed as you sit up again, the sky begins to clear and you can see it through the tiny barred window.
What if this assassin wanted to imitate Batman in some way? 
"What a bizarre introjection you've made, Riddler" you whisper.
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First, there was an explosion.
You felt the whole cell rumble, you woke up instantly and got up from your bed to run to the door even with your eyes swollen from sleep, naively you thought it was some kind of earthquake. You stuck your face to the glass of the door in search of a guard or nurse, whatever it is that will help you get out of this cell, you don't want to die here.
However, the section was still empty, there was no one in the guards' small surveillance cubicle, and you could only perceive the monitors on, showing the news. 
You heard a completely strident noise, there was no earthquake. You turned slowly to the window, the color was changing from gray to orange.
It can't be.
you rush to see what's going on, you grab a piece of your bed to climb on it and reach the high window of the cell, you level yourself by holding your hands on the rusty metal bars, and you catch a glimpse of what caused such a noise. 
You saw the light of an explosion, the combination of yellow and red colors coloring the sky, the smoke, the fire. The explosion happened far away from Arkham, but you can still see it in detail, then the noise became present, and you grimace at the impact on the walls, but it was not over yet.
Explosion after explosion went off all over the city, from bridges to seawalls, a scene so hard to believe if you weren't watching it right now.
The sight takes your breath away, you are so stunned that you almost fall to the floor witnessing such an act, this is what the Joker is referring to? the Riddler's final trick?
not even the scarecrow did so much damage to this city, you underestimated the man with the riddles.
You could not take your eyes off the explosions, there were too many and well-armed to generate so much destruction. The second thing was the water, the waves and drains getting out of control and flooding several streets.
You grip the metal bars tighter, not believing this is real, but it is. Not just bombs but a flood, was that what he had under his mask? Is Gotham drowning with innocent people? 
It makes sense now, his cooperation when caught, the guards' restless attitude, and Batman's uneasiness.
All.
Suddenly you focus on the bustle of what seems to be your cell neighbors, you didn't notice when they put the other patient in the cell next to yours. The noises came together to form a horrifying atmosphere. The laughter of the Joker, the excited laughter of your other neighbor, and the explosions that went on and on. Even with your breathing exercises, you could not relax in the face of this horrifying event.
Slowly you let go of the bars and stop looking in the window, slowly you understand one thing.
Someone beat Batman.
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Thank you very much for reading! And sorry for the mistakes!*:・゚✧*:・゚✧.
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Fandom love but make it Cillian Murphy: what’s his best role and why?
His BEST role?? Uff, would you accept a dissertation on the matter? To be handed in in a years time. With the conclusion being why I believe it should be Destiny of the Endless? Seriously, he's got the cheekbones and the eyes to be Toms big brother.. And the voice and the aura... But anywho, enough on my fan casting. 😅
But yes, his best role 🤔. I think I'll have to come at this from a 'My personal favorites' point of view or I will actually be answering you with an essay!
Obviously, let's get this out the way. He was phenomenonal in Oppenheimer and deserves every bit of acclaim he gets for it.
I will forever love him in the Dark Knight Trilogy. Was it the acting prefromance of his life? No. I think in one movie he only has a few lines. 😅 But I love Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow, I have ever since the 90s Batman cartoon. He's my favourite Batman Rogue. I went into Batman Begins excited for Scarecrow... And came out having met Cillian and those supernatural blue eyes of his. And have been in love ever since. 😅 So yes, the Dark Knight trilogy will always hold a special place in my heart.
I actually have a real soft spot for him in Red Eye and Red Lights. Red Lights for the premise, Red Eye because Jackson Rippner... (Jackson Rippner, subtle 🤣) is a charasmatic little dick.
Tommy Shelby from Peaky Blinders has to reign supreme. The fact that Cillian is able to portray a man of so many contrasts, loving yet glacial, strong yet shattered, dark yet light. And make the character feel so REAL. There's just something he manges to craft with Tommy, this almost inhuman man, who at the same time is loved as an everyman. Able to appeal to so many. I think Tommy is one of those characters Cillian will always be associated with, and with good reason.
There's some of Cillian's work I have yet to see. But those for now have to be some of my favorites. How about you @tickldpnk8?
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Omg I’m so happy you replied!! I definitely have more questions.
1. What Cillian character do you like writing about the most and why?
2. What story from your master list are you most proud of?
3. Do you personally have any fic recommendations/ must reads? Other sites included.
4. What gets you inspired to write? Following that question have you ever abandoned a fic?
5. What do you think made you a better writer? If you have any doubts about your work, how do you get past it enough to continue?
6. Is there a Cillian character that you just don’t like, or aren’t interested in watching/ writing about? (Sorry if that’s a loaded question)
omg thank u so much for this!!! i srsly love interacting w u guys, tysm for the thought provoking questions😄🙌
i think i like writing most about robert fischer:) ik it probably doesnt translate considering ive written most for jonathan crane but robert fischer is just such a little sweetheart to me,,, and can go both ways in being a sassy dom douchebag or being a sobbing daddy issues sub darling LOLLL i just think he has a lot of duality to delve into and develop (which ive definitely not done so far☠️) and it helps that his characterization in inception was also very surface level— i have a lot of wiggle room y’know??
i think im most proud of “dine & dash” which im aware probably no-one has read, but getting chris o’doyle’s sassy little dialogue down was like taming a wild beast,,, otherwise, considering my more well-known work, i rly liked writing “honey, i’m home”. i go crazy for the unhinged readers (if u couldnt alrdy tell lmaooo) and seeing jackson get messed with like that was a real treat.
i seriously just recommend anything by @mypoisonedvine,,, they’re literally genius & are the reason i started writing for cillian:)!! other mentions include kitten fics by @pictureinme and, a personal fave, @floralcyanidee’s jackson rippner mile-high club fic!!! these writers are all incredibly talented and im just blown away at their work every single time🫶
my thirst is such a big motivator for writing LMAO😭i wrote “guinea pig” ‘cus i wanted to absolute wreckkk jonathan crane and have him be a sub, and i got a 6.8k words long fic out of said thirst! music & book quotes motivate me a lot too— i spend sm time digging thru my pinterest for a good quote for the beginning of my fic its actually insane☠️and yes,,, im ashamed to say ive abandoned fics numerous times,,, but thats because they were series’, not oneshots. i get bored of series’ pretty quickly, ‘cause i feel kind of trapped by the initial dynamic or mood set in the first chapter. with oneshots, its like writing one long chapter of this trope and this kink or whatever and then its done, and i dont have to exhaust myself going back to tropes or kinks or storylines ive already done.
i think reading made me a better writer. expanding my vocabulary through the words of others was a biggie; seeing something be described in a certain way in someones story had me thinking of out-of-the-box ways to describe another thing (that doesn’t make much sense but lets pretend it does😭). i have many, many doubts about my work, like constantly, but i usually just suck it up. i sound like an attention whore but seeing the reposts & comments & tags on my other work reminds me people like what i’ve written before and certain people will enjoy what ive written now, so i should just finish my work for them. i also take like 100 years rereading my stuff until i think its good enough lmao,,,
ive kinda watched his whole roster of films (atleast ones i could actually find on the internet and not gone missing as a lost piece of media lmao) and i could probably write for any cillian character given i had a good idea and proper motivation. writing for certain characters is definitely harder for me to do though, so its likely i wont write for them/will take a long time to do so. an example is lenny miller— anna was such an insufferable movie to me, and lenny’s screentime wasn’t long at all, atleast not long enough for me to properly grasp his character. he just felt like a horny hardass fbi goof the whole time i could not take his 5’7 ass seriously😭cillian is smexy as hell in anna tho, so we’ll see😈another would probably be robert capa from sunshine,,, hes beautiful and deliciously musty in that but the whole spaceship setting kinda freaks me out (considering i know 0 zilch nada about space, spaceships, or anything of the sort, so it’d definitely be inaccurate). an au with him id definitely do, though! (with that hair of his my mind is already forming a 90s band au, guitarist!capa x singer!reader story…)
again thank u so much for these questions!! i feel like i rarely get to chat to u guys so this was well appreciated😄🫶thank you so much for reading, for sending these questions in, and for being an overall sweetheart, anon!
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denimbex1986 · 2 years ago
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'Every great actor understands how to harness the tools they've been given. For Christopher Walken, it's his pinball-esque grasp of cadence. For Jack Nicholson, it's the Play-Doh structure of his face. Then there's Cillian Murphy. Some may say it's the eyes, those piercing almost-translucent blue orbs that help him oscillate from warm to terrifying in a split second. But no, sorry, they're wrong. Nothing but love to those pearly peepers, but the real magic of Murphy's face is that razor-sharp set of blades hugging the side of his head.
Those cheekbones, so sharp you could probably run his face up a bottle of champagne and the cork would fly off. So cutting you could make sushi with them. You would probably have to baby-proof his face for fear of toddlers happening across those dangerous corners. But beyond just how they look (very good), Murphy understands the power they have in his performances. They can transform him from menacing to ghoulish to inviting, sometimes in the space of one role. With Oppenheimer on the horizon, we've ranked Murphy's cheekbone-iest roles to date.
6. Batman Begins (2008)
As the Kens of Barbie are defined by their jobs, the style and mood of a movie will dictate how the Cillian Murphy cheekbones operate on screen: in Oppenheimer, they remind us of the deathly, apocalyptic stakes of the A-bomb. In 28 Days Later, they make everything a little more scary. In Red Eye, they’re serving. Which brings us to Batman Begins, in which Murphy portrays the DC series’ central purveyor of spook, Jonathan Crane, AKA the Scarecrow, ooooh. It’s most appropriate, then, that the tautness of Murphy’s face gives him a hot, skeletal allure, which is also kinda spooky. He can dose us with a demonic hallucinogen any day. JK
5. Red Eye (2005)
We're about to say something Cillian Murphy will, at worst, hate, or, at best, be utterly baffled by thanks to his refusal to exist in the age of the internet. But those cheekbones? In the 2005 Wes Craven underrated film Red Eye? They're serving cunt. Slicey McGee's second consecutive villain role after Batman Begins traded the burlap sack for an eye mask in this thriller where he plays a seemingly nice hot man who turns out to be a terrorist. Modern dating, amirite? The cheekbones do some transformative heavy lifting in this, getting more hollow the more menacing he needs to be. He's essentially Wolverine but the retractable knives are on his face. And, just in case it needed to be confirmed, yes, the cheekbones still hold up under airplane bathroom lighting. The jammy sod. LF
4. Sunshine (2007)
After 28 Days Later, Danny Boyle's second Murphy team-up upped the ante in a fashion any good sequel should: they took the cheekbones all the way to space. If we learned anything about those staggering face cliffs over the course of Murphy’s early career, it’s that they always, always deserve the best lighting possible. Nay, they demand it. Which is presumably why Boyle took Murphy to the surface of a dying star, because fuck a ring light when you’ve got cheeks like these. Chris Nolan would essentially do the same years later with Oppenheimer, though substituting the sun for an atomic explosion. Do NOT turn down the brightness. JK
3. Peaky Blinders (2013-2022)
Has the term peaky blinders been used as slang for cheekbones yet? If not, it should. Think about it, “That boy Cillian's got a cracking set of peaky blinders on him”. It just works. Murphy's almost decade-long tenure as gang leader Tommy Shelby did so much for the landscape of men's fashion – You could barely walk down the street without seeing at least a handful of lads sporting his drastic undercut. And while we're not here to yuck anyone's yum, the real secret sauce of that haircut that so many failed to recognise is that it was following the severe line of his 90-degree, razor-sharp cheekbones. They were simply two parallel lines fighting for supremacy on one man's head, but we know who came out on top in the end. LF
2. 28 Days Later (2002)
Like Watergate, the Moon landing and 9/11, most people can remember where they were when they first saw 28 Days Later, because it was the day that Danny Boyle introduced the Cillibones to the world. Lives were changed, the planet shook, something shifted: here was the most archetypal Man to Be Shot in Close-Up ever seen on screen, unleashing upon the world a cheekbone fever stronger and all the more unhinged than a rage-inducing virus. People literally died. Good movie, too. JK
Oppenheimer (2023)
Christopher Nolan loves Cillian Murphy's face so much he shoots it in pretty much every way he can in Oppenheimer – Colour, black and white, extremely close-up, lit by the fire of 100 tons of plutonium. Not to mention the IMAX cameras! The man just wants to see his guy look glorious on the biggest screen possible, and the result is blinding. Hand us the welder's glass, Oppy, we're about to lose our retinas here. Murphy shed weight to play the emaciated father of the atomic bomb, which give the Cillibones™ a chance to pop even more than usual. He ends up looking like a besuited Grim Reaper which, for someone who utters the iconic phrase “I am become death, destroyer of worlds”, tracks. When the time comes for Murphy to inevitably win an Oscar for this role, we hope there's enough room on the plaque to engrave a co-winner in the shape of his own bone structure. LF'
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mrbango · 1 year ago
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The Watcher
Statement of Robin crane
[fan made statement]
Jon: end recording-
*knocking on door*
Jon:Come in.
Robin: Hey, Martin said I should talk to you…uhm..said I should make a statement..
Jon: oh, ok then. Recording ends
*tape recorder is turned off*
*tape recorder is turned on*
Jon: Statement of Robin crane, researcher of the Magnus institute. Regarding?
Robin: a,Uh..monster that’s been stalking me for 10 years and attacked me two years ago..
Jon: statement taken directly from subject. Audio recording by Jonathan Sims, head archivist of the Magnus institute, London. Statement begins
Robin: Before I begin I want to clarify that it’s watching me at the moment..it always is.. it’s in this office as we speak but neither of us are able to see it.. but it’s most likely in a far corner, it’s frightened of you.. I felt fear in its stare when I knocked on the door.
*Robin sighs*
Robin: I got cursed with this..thing, when I was 12. I'd love to be able to say that I knew something bad was going to happen that day, but I'd be lying. It was the day before Christmas break, and it had snowed the night before, leaving a good three inches of fresh snow. I remember practically launching myself out the door because I was so excited to go to school. The day was amazing; we watched a movie, ate cookies, and then it happened. It was during our break when me and my friends ally-
Jon: full names please.
Robin: oh ok, sorry.. It was during our break when me and my friends, Alania Shire, and Leo Carter were having a snowball fight when I noticed something dark sticking out of the snow. I walked over and picked it up. It was an old mahogany box with intricate designs carved into the wood, sealed shut with a gleaming golden latch. What was most unsettling was that, despite the cold day, the box was oddly warm.
My friends gathered around, curiosity and trepidation dancing in their eyes. After a bit of friendly bickering about who should open it, we decided to settle the matter with a game of rock-paper-scissors. And, well, I lost.
I tried to protest and convince one of them to open it but Leo told me to just open in and stop being a coward..so I did. And as soon as that latch was opened and the lid was flipped a ploom of black smoke filled my nose and burned my eyes. It smelled horrible..the only way I could describe it was the smell of rot.. just pure decay. After I finish coughing and fanning the gas away I look down into the box. It was strange..it looked as if it had no bottom, just an endless void where it should be. I stare at it for a moment more when suddenly, one,two,three and then hundreds, maybe thousands of little white eyes flick open from the void and stared at me. I scream more black smoke flooding out of the wooden box before I throw it onto the chilled ground. Leo bends down, picking it up and looking inside. His face turned to one of annoyance looking at me. “It’s empty you big baby, it was just some smoke.”. He said to me.. I wish that box was empty when I opened it..
but then I felt it.. I felt it watching me, I looked behind me but saw nothing but the feeling didn’t change. We went home not long after that but the feeling never stopped..
As the years went by I started seeing it more, in the corner of my eye, in mirrors than sometimes staring at me from long dark hallways.. and I always knew it was that monster because of the soft creaking sound it made when it moved. Like an old gate
I tried to tell people but they always said it was just a trick of the mind..”the dark can do that to you Robin” that’s what they said but I know. I know it was just my mind playing a trick on me, a trick of the mind wouldn’t stop me from sleeping,I started carrying around a flashlight, I don’t know why but it brought me comfort.. On my 20th birthday I was walking home, my friends had taken me out. It was dark, very late so there were very few cars on the road if any. When I heard it.. the soft creaking was behind me. I turned to see a blur of its white eyes as it quickly got behind me. I was so fed up, I reached into my bag grabbing my flashlight, feeling the weight of it in my hand. I didn’t even know If this would do anything but I hoped it would as I flicked it on and turned around. I lifted my arm up angling the flash light into its eyes..only then did I see how many there were..it had what could be millions.. it let out an ear piercing whining shriek of pain, it stumbled back on its unnaturally angled legs covering its eyes with its hooked hands. It let out an angry cry as it regained its sight and as I was backing up into an ally it launched its self forward towards me causing me to fall back in shock, it’s hooked hands latching onto the two buildings that make up the ally as I push myself back trying to stand, it threw itself down on me..I don’t remember very much after that..all I can recall is the horrible pain of it ripping a chunk out of my arm and all of the blood..my head gets fuzzy after that but I woke up in the hospital.. It's been awhile now and I see it in full more often..I still barely sleep, when I do I wake up a about an hour later with in hovering over me.. and I would like to comment that it doesn’t usually look at me with any emotion..it’s always just a cold, dead stare.. it just behaves as a shadow that isn’t my own…I’m unsure of what it wants with me..and I don't know if I will ever truly know it’s end goal…
Jon: interesting.. we will look into it, if we find anything or need further information I’ll let you know.
Robin:ok..
*recorder is turned off*
*recorder is turned on*
Jon: Statement ends. I haven’t heard of this monster in any other statements but it is intriguing. I doubt it was always in that box so it was most likely put there, But by who or what I am unsure of, and why said monster fears me I also don’t know. On a different note, Robin himself was very..tense, and twitchy. It could just be due to him feeling watched but I could be incorrect, End recording.
*recorder is turned off*
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mirtifero · 2 years ago
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Me ranting about Nolanverse Jonathan Crane,
Because it's either that or me losing it.
Warning: THIS IS FUCKING HUGE.
Contents:
Mixed feelings
How they could have done it better
WHAT THE FUCK
This guy is a FLEV you cannot say otherwise and personality database is wrong SHUT UP (skippable)
Conclusion
Note: topic 4 is very oversimplified. Do not tell my friend I refuse to talk more about theory than I already did on a SCARECROW POST. I'm too lazy to explain topic by topic like he told me to. Shhh
1. Mixed feelings
Okay so first of all what the fuck. Why did they cast Cillian Murphy here. LISTEN, he did great, and that's exactly my issue. If this Scarecrow wasn't filled to the brim with potential I'd just say "it was a mistake to cast Murphy as him" and move on. HOWEVER! He slayed that role. I dare to say he saved that Scarecrow. So why... why is he that conventionally pretty? That's not Jonathan Crane at all! He's... he's an old, (beauty norms wise) ugly man! Why is he young and beautiful???
He's evil, he's perfectly sadomasochistic, perfectly curious and. and evil. okay. I like it when he's evil and a little bit out of it (<3). He's perfect on that aspect! He's great! His... his design is what bothers me so much! His ways are uncanny so even if I have my complaints it fills its role so... just... why!!! Why!!!!! Every time someone says "I don't like him, he doesn't feel like Scarecrow to me" I get it!!! I get it!!!!! I get it so much because there's something so off about him and that's so sad!! Because when you look closely... he's interesting.
He's literally so interesting. I loved reading his wiki. He's evil and manipulative and a gross little sadistic bastard. He is obsessed with fear in a way I love, just perfect for Scarecrow. He's meticulous and aesthetic-obsessed. He, in many ways, reminds me of BTAA Scarecrow, who is, in my opinion, the best one to ever exist!!!
2. What they could have done better
They had the chance to make (one of) the most queer coded Scarecrow and have a magnificent take on his appearance and his backstory.
I think this would have upset Nolan's target audience (annoying dudebros), and wouldn't have pleased many Scarecrow fans that aren't tumblr-levels of online insanity. However, it would have fixed the gap in his backstory ("why was he bullied for his appearance?"). Men are bullied for being feminine-looking, and considering his conservative southern backstory, it would be the perfect match. Skinny, pretty-faced, different from everything Nolan's movie praises: that masculinity full of roughness and violence. Something like this would create a perfect contrast between him and Nolan's Batman and could create many interesting concepts.
By creating this base, this idea of an insecurity regarding his own prettiness, one may open many interesting doors of character exploration. Does he decide to use that in his favour? How does this impact his obsession with fear? The physical aspect of this will be explored in the FLEV topic so I don't get too annoying here specifically.
Anyways! By doing this, it would surely differ from different Scarecrows, but it would still be extremely interesting! How is his love for fear connect, or how can we as an audience connect that to his queerness? The Scarecrow nickname can also be explored here very, very interestingly.
By adding this miserable detail of his bullying being because he looked FEMININE and because of any sort of queerness opens doors to many, many things.
Also just fucking use him more than a punching bag. By just reading his wiki you can find so much about him and one would just... not know? Because he is just thrown there? He's a waste of potential! He should have been a main villain in at least one movie and no the first one doesn't count because the main villain (WHO IS ALSO WASTED GREATLY!!) is Ra's.
And excuse me but this is seen as the "best adaptation" and yada yada so if they had so much power not just fucking delve better into their own characters.
Sure I'm no movie expert to say HOW they could fit all of that. But they COULD HAVE. They COULD HAVE delved into Jonathan. The potential was RIGHT THERE! Something DIFFERENT with him, and yet, they decided to go for mr pretty face that appears to be punched on the gut and disappear.
That's why people dislike the character! He could have been, he was not. Therefore, he's a pretty face. And Jonathan is not a pretty face. So it isn't Jonathan. And I get it. Because I'm also angry at what they did with him. They wasted his potential. Being different isn't a bad thing, but at least explore it!!!!!
3. WHAT THE FUCK
WHY IS HE LIKE THAT. WHY DOES HE.
Okay how do I begin this.
WHY THE FUCK.
WHAAT THE FUCKKKKKKK.
Okay let me try to be more. Coherent.
Why does he look so fucking horny when Batman is around this is fucking HILARIOUS.
And can be so interestingly explored.
Jesus christ I took a break from writing this and got jumpscared from reading what I wrote wait let me try to be less insane.
His sadomasochism is insane bro. (psychic damage 12d8)
I'm honestly obsessed with this part of his personality. It reminds me of BTAA crane and Fear State crane and some others, in a way. He just looks absolutely stunning but his fucking brain is so not normal(tm) that he just did that on the third movie. Looking absolutely horrendous babygirl. Just reminds me so bad of this like. Okay idk if anyone can see it but I can and that's what matters god bless.
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I just love when he looks unhindged.
Anyways.
Also can we talk about his obsession with Batman I love when they make him a little obsessed. And silly. Also he sounds so fucking annoying I love it so muchhh dude... fucking bastard!!! His backstory is unhindged this guy is insane he's absolutely obsessed with fear and also manipulative and sadistic and okay the physical aspect of fear will be talked... NOW!!!!!!!
4. This guy is a FLEV you cannot say otherwise and personality database is wrong SHUT UP (skippable)
Aka the one that I'll look like someone talking to a wall.
IF I FUCK UP ON ANY THEORY BIT IM SO SORRY PLEASE DONT KILL ME (IM TALKING TO YOU MY FRIEND I WILL SEND THIS TO WHEN I FINISH WRITING)
In case you don't know what I'm talking about... this is about Attitudinal Psyche (which I keep mispelling... SORRY). It's a personality typing system, to put it very shortly. It most analyses an individual's actions regarding three aspects: Logical (L), Physical (F), Emotional (E) and Volitional (V). These can be positioned in three different huhh "places" (I suck at explaining sorry), them being: confident (1), flexible (2), insecure (3) and unbothered (4).
It's... not as simple as that, though. The names may be misleading and the way each interact with each other may be quite different from type to type. If you for some fucking reason want to know more I linked the site there.
"You believe in this stuff?"
Short answer: no.
Long answer: I believe it can't be used as a way to determine someone's personality, but a very interesting guide to it. I like the fact that it is more complex than MBTI and that therefore it is more hidden from astrology obsessed fucks that are annoying about it (like "oohh im an INFP i cant help it<3" or whatever. no one does this with AP because no one knows about it lol). It is, however, INCREDIBLY, and I mean, ABSURDELY useful when writing characters. It is very interesting when observing characters' actions and putting them in light in an almost mathematical way... Let's say it saved my ass from mischaracterization quite the amount of times.
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THEY ARE WRONG.
idk shit about the other stuff so idc idc but HIS ASS IS NOT FLVE!!!!
HE'S FLEV!!!
I hope this doesn't get too big because I want to. Elaborate. So, first, let's see FLVE's (WRONG) introduction:
"FLVE is the Attitudinal Psyche type that seems the most interested in the value, worth, structure and potential power of the world that surrounds them. The FLVE appears to be protecting their right to exist wherever they desire by completely resisting any outside forces that try to manipulate or encroach on their space or personal decisions in any way. They may come off quiet, stoic, grounded, aggressive, indiscriminately blunt, immovable, shy, awkward, and even unapproachable – but will open up easily when given the chance to discuss topics related to logistics or intricate details. The FLVE seems to want control over their identity through fully theorizing and testing hypotheses of what holds the most worth or value in their lives."
I put in bold some things. It's just wrong.
I'm going to be honest, I don't even know how people came to this conclusion.
Because even if we superficially analyse the positions, it doesn't feel right. Why is he a 3V here? Superficially speaking, an insecure volition leads to people not knowing what they are, what they want to do, and desperaately want to fix it. Crane isn't... like that? He's not insecure on where his life is heading, he, in fact, doesn't seem to care much as long as it takes him to achieving his fear goals (4V).
Another one that is just weird is the 4E. Take this bit from the 4E in FLVE page as an example:
"FLVEs have a deceptive 4E, as they can appear more invested in their emotions than they are. The combination of aggressive 1F and 3V can give them an angry, reactive emotional tone but the internal experience of the FLVE is a detached devaluing of what their emotions actually mean. FLVEs rarely introspect deeply about how they feel or relate to others, and prefer to listen to feedback regarding the impressions they give off."
Just. AKSJKSKASJAK IT'S NOT HIM AT ALL!!!
He looks extremely deceptive when it comes to emotions, yes, but not because he seems... invested in them or seems to angry and reactive. It's specifically because he sees no use in expressing emotions in environments he feels as unsafe, and he sees barely any use in emotions at all so there's also that (all being very 4E). AND FEEDBACK?? THE WIKI SAYS HE WAS LITERAALLY THE MOST ANNOYING MOTHER FUCKER TO LIVE ON THAT UNIVERSITY AND HE DIDN'T GIVE A SINGLE FUCK ABOUT IT!
Okay now. Time to start explaining that, since he isn't a FLVE, then what is he?
My friend will punch me for not starting with explaining why he's on Pente Sexta but I can't find the theory bit he's referring to so uh maybe later! Just trust me when I mention the Pente Sexta quirk.
WHY IS HE A FLEV?
"FLEV is the Attitudinal Psyche type that seems the most interested in using details and logical musings to gradually transform their environment to be whatever fulfills their sensual and physical needs. The FLEV appears to be protecting their need for comfort, both psychologically and physically, through gathering data and scrutinizing its value to them personally. They may come off as hedonistic, comfort seeking, lax, immovable, heady, satirical, tasteful, picky, detail-oriented, philosophical, spiritual, mystical, or ironic if they are a particularly opinionated individual. The FLEV seems to want control over their identity through gathering and sharing information that they believe will deepen a sense of worth and value towards their lives."
NOW we're off to a better start.
At first glance, it may seem... off, inaccurate, maybe. So let's take a closer look at FLEV:
1F: "why would he have a 1F, why would he be confident on his physics" you may be wondering, my fellow Scarecrow enjoyer. Yes, it doesn't make sense AT FIRST. However! Take a look at the 1F description in FLEV:
"FLEVs have a picky and sometimes vocal relationship to the physics aspect. This type does not shy away from expressing what they like and dislike in their surroundings. They have a strong fascination with aesthetics and mood ¹, similar to their sister type FELV. However, FLEVs are much more lax and hidden about the emotions that drive them. This type wants to be the authority of all incoming senses and will refuse to allow others to tamper with their comforts if they have already claimed them ². FLEVs do not like to waste time in direct confrontation with others, so they tend to pre-meditate and plan around potential conflict that may overwhelm them with negative emotion or dramatics ³. This type gives off an air of hedonism that communicates to others that the FLEV will get what they desire in the physical world no matter how others protest. For this reason, FLEVs can appear highly chaotic and physically vivacious if their vulnerabilities are triggered into action. This type may have a fascination with physical activities that provide abundance like: gardening, farming, metalworking, thrift-shopping, and collecting. This only aids into the typical view of the FLEV as someone highly focused on the value they can attain from the material world."
Okay so, let's break down three main things here (but everything in bold is nice to my point):
"strong fascination with aesthetics and mood" - oh c'mon the guy wears a Scarecrow mask. Motherfucker rode on a horse during that mess in the Narrows. He's obsessed with the creepy little aesthetic.
"wants to be the authority of all incoming senses and will refuse to allow others to tamper with their comforts if they have already claimed them" - quite self-explanatory. Look at that guy. Sure, he may not be THE authority in Ra's plan, for example, but he does see himself in some position of power, and is quite protective of the physical comfort (his materials for the fear toxin) the alliance provided him, which is... quite shown when he drugs Falcone. He pretty much didn't want him to fucking bother them.
"do not like to waste time in direct confrontation with others, so they tend to pre-meditate and plan around potential conflict that may overwhelm them with negative emotion or dramatics" - quite self-explanatory too. He just doesn't seem to bother much, let's say.
There is, however, a quirk that I will mention in... a second. It doesn't change the basis but it does change a little thing.
2L: I believe this is, although the easiest one to understand, the hardest one to explain.
"FLEVs have a highly active relationship with the logic aspect. This type wastes no time digging into the details, particularly physical, of everything they observe. They tend to carefully consider information regardless of source, and interrelate it to all other sources and past experiences they have had with that particular idea. There is a hyperactivity present in willingness to entertain new possibilities and ideas surrounding logic that only few types can match. Along with the focus on logic, FLEVs can become collectors of philosophical ideas. Like all pentes, there is a strong focus on the past and how it compares to current ideas in humanity. [...] If their interests do not stretch that far back in history, they will instead tend towards endless breadth of outside opinions rather than depth. Regardless of their focus, this type does not stop collecting data and feeding it into the sensual vision of their life. FLEVs desire to share opinions and encourage others to join along, even if they strongly disagree with their ideas."
I believe it is quite self-explanatory, but I must say that FLEV's are easy to be passionate about philosophical ideas... does that ring a bell?
(this is from the wiki):
"Crane prepared himself to make a grand theory to prove that fear was the basis of all of humanity's errors and "cure" it by ushering mankind with the fear-induction within his hallucinogen into a true Garden of Eden where all of its worst fears came true and were conquered, with him as its benevolent ruler."
(I find the last bit quite silly. Not a big fan of it, but whatever, let's not get off topic)
To explain why his Logics is there I also want to point out about this on the Pente Sexta page (where FLEV is):
Process Emotion & Logic: Pentes prefer to process, discuss and partake in a journey through emotion and logic. You will often hear them conversing in depth about education, artistry, vocalization, communication and ideology.
I believe he's quite the calculative, meticulously sadistic villain... which makes him having a 2L and a 3E specifically (since the "process" is when things are on either 2 or 3 positions) make quite sense. "But why not 2E and 3L? Why is his emotion on 'insecure'? He seems so collected... and he's a psychiatrist!" that's what I'm going to delve into... NOW!
3E:
The simplest way that I could explain why he's 3E is that he does not see emotions as a good thing necessarily, and sees them more as tools to achieve goals (AKA emotional manipulation, but this is not the overall case for any 3E, I'm talking about Jonathan-fucking-Crane). But that's too vague. Let me once again copy paste the site's description:
"FLEVs tend to have a firmly concealed 3E attitude. This type often refuses to express their emotions and believes that this part of themselves must be saved for entirely safe situations where they cannot be criticized or thrown into emotional turmoil. They may attempt to feel safe by pointing out how hysterical others are and satirizing versions of what they believe are frenzied emotions. [...] FLEVs dislike any situation where emotions may cloud their own judgment or throw them into disappointment or negativity that they did not choose to partake in themselves. They often want a negative experience to have a purpose, and if nothing interesting or of value can be obtained from it, then it is better off left ignored. They can become dejected and sad looking, while refusing to verbalize the emotions held within unless it is aggression or anger."
Jonathan has this calculative, cold and annoying way because of this sort of thing: he sees these emotions as an obstacle. Also... "satirizing versions of what they believe are frenzied emotions"? Fucking hell! He's a smug looking ironic bastard that literally just threw a "not my diagnosis!" on Batman! Isn't that enough proof of how 3E he is???
(did you guys notice I'm really fucking bad at explaining things? Yeah)
4V:
Unbothered volition huh?
"But doesn't he have a goal? That world without fear?"
Well! First of all: take note on how physical this goal is, and how fear to Crane is seen as something on a more physical world than anything else (I believe his toxin shows that pretty well - someone who sees fear as an emotion wouldn't use a toxin that is made having in mind and as a sole objective the physical compensation and reactions. Being it a weird ass fetish or a cuiriosity on seeing how humans physically react to fear and how that physically affects the physical brain and physical world and how the emotions affect it and how he can use the emotions to cause physical reactions to YOU GET IT). And now read this:
FLEVs, like all pente types, can have a mixed state of first and fourth attitudes. They may have short bursts of inspiration to reach a desired future goal but will ultimately use this inspiration to serve a physical need that they value. FLEVs may be highly opinionated about what they like and dislike on an aesthetic level, but easily take orders from others if the goal is seen as useful. This can give off a confusing impression to those who have witnessed the pickiness of this type. Ultimately, the FLEV is open minded to possible future ventures, especially if there are details to obsess over. They may not want to waste time discussing goals as the process is less interesting than reaching a result, but they rarely shoot down opinions in this realm. FLEVs can be very hard workers since they are a 1F type, pushing their body to extremes to reach a coveted physical or environmental state, but there is rarely any extensive thought put into considering other options unless they come across a solution by chance.
The last bit can be ignored idk much about it but notice what's in bold.
AND HERE'S WHERE I'LL TALK ABOUTTTT!!!! THE QUIRK!!!!!:
Did you guys notice it? "Like all pente types"?
Did you notice how his motivations exist and are mixtured in the physical realm?
Now, I invite you to take a look at this bit from the wiki, that talks about the second movie on the trilogy:
"Batman tied up a strangely happy Scarecrow, possibly due to the fact that he felt fear when Batman arrived, [...]"
DID YOU NOTICE IT??? DID YOU NOTICE HOW IT'S A MIXED STATE OF F AND V??? HIS MOTIVATIONS ARE DRIVEN BY A PHYSICAL IDEA AND A PHYSICAL SENSATION... FEAR!
ALMOST FUCKING HEDONISTIC???? WHAT???w NOW REMEMBER WHAT THE INTRODUCTION TO FLEV SAID????
"They may come off as hedonistic,[...]"
DO YOUFUCKINGSEE IT????? His physical interest in the physical world when it comes to fear can COME OFF AS HEDONISTIC.
THIS IS THE STRONGEST ARGUMENT FOR WHY HE'S A FLEV!
For example, another type that I'd understand typing him is VLEF. And I genuenely get why. Genuenely, I do.
But I think this Scarecrow (and overall my favorite ones like BTAA) is more of a FLEV.
Reason being that (IN THIS CASE) the volition is not what causes the physical interest but vice versa. REMINDER THAT PHYSICAL WORLD IS MORE THAN SEX AND BEAUTY IT'S ALSO STUFF LIKE POWER AND FOOD AND YOU GET THE IDEA I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE I'M GOING LIKE "yeah he's all about sex" OKAY????? I just think there's something deeply wrong with him.
I think a VLEF Scarecrow could be arkhamverse or Fear State ones. But I have not delved into that yet.
So yeah, I understand why one would believe he's a VLEF, but I believe other Scarecrows fit this archetype better than Nolanverse (and BTAA, my beloved<3), who is more of a FLEV.
Very aesthetic driven, one could say. I believe Scarecrows tend to vary between either VLEF or FLEV. At least my favorite ones.
THIS ONE IS A FLEV AND SO IS BTAA THO SO STFU PERSONALITY DATABASE IS WRONG!!!!!!!!! WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4. Conclusion
Hii. Heh.
I'm. pffhhf I'm done. Sorry.
I think this Jonathan was trying to do something, but had no time for it. He was used as a pretty face and now he's seen as a bad Scarecrow by many. But I don't believe so. I think he can be scary, and that he can be obsessed, and love the halloween aesthetic.
He's underrated, because even when he is the most mainstream one... barely anyone actually... talks about him. No character exploration, no manipulation, no scary disgusting guy... just... pretty face. Disappointing is not enough to describe how he is treated. I think he deserves better, in canon and fanon.
I started writing this when I was full of energy and not knowing where to throw it so this is probably a mess >_< sorry!
I'm not even a big fan of his. One of his biggest slanderers. But I do think he was done unfairly and that he deserves a second chance in my heart.
Thanks for reading!
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enignoema-a · 1 year ago
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18.     entry made discussing a childhood memory. :)
Read Ed's Diary || Accepting
Stream of Consciousness Journal Date: Oct/31/xxxx
Halloween in Gotham. Again. Gotham is already a horror movie even without people like Julian Day and Jonathan Crane deciding the best way to celebrate a children's holiday is terrorizing the city. Or hell, maybe this year there will be some new idiot on the scene with a 'spooky' motif who calls himself Jack O'lantern or some bullshit like that. Why does Gotham attract these costumed freaks?
I guess I can't say anything being a costumed freak myself.
It shouldn't be like this. Not to be a sentimental fool, but now is the time people should be going out and having fun with their families. Hell, even Pa took us out to a pumpkin patch every year. Got drunk on cider while he let me pick from whatever dregs were left in the patch. Thinking back it must have been a compromise, since he didn't want me going out trick or treating. Did he really care about things like that? Maybe it was Mama's idea.
I got a pumpkin though, every year. Then we would do the hay ride and I would fall asleep on Mama every year without fail. Then we'd be home again and I'd put the pumpkin on the steps and the next day Mama would make pie
Maybe Ivy has Pumpkins. Wonder if she'd let me take one tonight
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ao3feed-brucewayne · 2 years ago
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The Psychology of Desire
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by ophenlea
“It’s curious…” he murmured almost silently, his gaze flicking down to my lips. “How my mind constantly diverts to thoughts of you. Do you have any idea why that might be?”
His sharp, calculating eyes snapped up to meet mine in an instant. Without his glasses on, I was able to fully appreciate how incredibly mesmerizing they were. His pupils dilated as though they were trying to suck me deeper into his allure, and I took a shaky breath before I replied.
 “You’re the psychiatrist here, Doctor Crane. Don't you think you should be figuring that out yourself?”
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 You’re slowly falling in love with your asshole psychology professor. Like an absolute idiot. Luckily, it seems as though he’s taken an interest in you as well!
Or, maybe that isn’t such a good thing...
Words: 4619, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: The Batman (Movie 2022), Batman - All Media Types, Batman (Movies - Nolan), Batman (Movies 1989-1997)
Rating: Mature
Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Rape/Non-Con
Categories: F/M
Characters: Jonathan Crane, Bruce Wayne, Edward Nashton, Rachel Dawes, commissioner james gordon, Alexander Knox, Vicki Vale, Edward Nygma
Relationships: Jonathan Crane/Reader, Bruce Wayne/Reader, Rachel Dawes/Bruce Wayne, Edward Nygma & Reader
Additional Tags: Scarecrow (DCU) Played by Cillian Murphy, POV Female Character, Female Protagonist, SORRY YALL, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder - PTSD, Trauma, Childhood Trauma, Character Death, Graphic Description, Canon-Typical Violence, Blood and Violence, Alcohol Abuse/Alcoholism, Past Alcohol Abuse/Alcoholism, Physical Abuse, Past Abuse, Angst and Hurt/Comfort, Slow Burn, Enemies to Friends to Lovers, i guess?, Somewhat, Scarecrow's Fear Toxin (DCU), reader is a uni student, Emotional Manipulation, only a little, Riddler (DCU) Played by Paul Dano, Teacher-Student Relationship, whoops, I have so many ideas for this, but oh my god its hard to flesh them out, it is criminal how few scarecrow fanfictions there are on this website, im doing god's work, Other Additional Tags to Be Added, Tags May Change, Eventual Smut, perhaps, i want to have smut, but we'll see, Batman Played by Robert Pattinson, Unhealthy Relationships
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spookalittlelouder · 2 years ago
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I'm really excited for The Batman: Part II (and even the new Brave and the Bold movie coming out), and I know a lot of us are hoping to see Scarecrow in them. I think it's always fun to see fancasts because it shows what they might want out of that character.
I've seen people say Bill Skarsgård, Jamie Campbell Bower, and a few others, but I think Jonathan should be much older, more professorial. I've been thinking a lot lately about Stephen Merchant as Crane. He totally has the appearance, but I'm not sure if his very distinct voice would suit Crane.
What are some of your favorite fancasts and why do you think they're best suited for the character?
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finniestoncrane · 2 years ago
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Could I pls have a #7 off the fluff prompt list for the Batman rogues? I just love the chaotically dumb/troublesome S/o’s that drive their rogues crazy but are still loved by them at the end of the day and put up with their shit. I just love when the rogues are all “you’re an idiot but you’re my idiot.” Pls and thank you, your work is wonderful ☺️
Riddler + whoever else you feel like adding pls #7 “You’re an idiot.” “But you love me.”
You're An Idiot/But You Love Me
Rogue Scenarios/Ficlets kjhkjhasd ok this was cutie and i liked writing it. i know it's not usually my thing to be soft and gentle so i hope this was ok! thank you for submitting it ;-; 💜 request info • prompt list • send me a request • kofi minors DNI!! 🔞 cw for nsfw stuff: nothin' it's just fluff, but no lil friends come near this shit anyway
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"i thought that was the answer!" he scrutinised you with his narrowed eyes, trying to tell whether you were joking or not, making a fool out of him, mocking him. "are you being sarcastic?" you walk over to him and place a kiss on his cheek. " a little bit, but that was the easiest riddle ever, do you think i'm an idiot?" he grabbed your waist as you turned away from him, spinning you back around and kissing your forehead. "you are an idiot." snuggling your head into his neck you whispered "but you love me anyway."
two face
"god! you're an IDIOT!" you cowered slightly at the yell, trying to maintain eye contact so you could break through to him, past two face. "i'm so sorry, i didn't realise, i made a mistake, but we got out alive!" he spat his words at you, "barely! god you're so stupid." reaching out tentatively you placed your hand on his cheek, desperate to reach harvey. looking into his eyes you risked a kiss. "but you love me?" his hands wrapped around your waist in a soft embrace, kissing the top of your head, voice softer now. "of course."
scarecrow
so maybe you should have known better, given that you were dating jonathan crane. but you were too focused on watching the horror movie he had put on. you just put your hand to the side and picked up the first cup your fingers landed on, taking a sip and putting it back down. it took him a few minutes before he realised why you had suddenly become far more terrified of the cheesy slasher. when he eventually got you calmed down, you noticed how tight his grip on your hand was. he let go when he realised you were smiling at it. "you're an idiot." you grabbed at his hand again. "but you love me!" he neither confirmed nor denied it.
penguin
"haha! see sweetheart, that's why you can't play a player." he began raking in the chips after settling his cards down on the table. "four of a kind, it feels good to win." you smiled, pleased to see him so happy. "don't worry, kid, one of these days you'll win. i'll teach you how to beat everyone, except me. so what hand did you have?" you lay them down, shrugging. "none of them matched, oz. total bust." he stared at them, then back at you, then back at the cards. "you're an idiot." you tilted your head to the side, staring blankly at him. "that's a straight flush, doll, you beat me! you didn't notice?" you smiled, "no i did, i'm just good at bluffing." his mouth was screwed shut tight, and as you leaned over to collect your winnings, you pressed a kiss to them. "but you love me."
zsasz
"let's go then!" you dove around the corner, guns blazing, firing what might have seemed at random to the untrained eye, but victor watched you, trying to cover you, a pointless attempt because every wild shot you took was right on target. but you hadn't accounted for the one officer who had been hiding, who burst out as you realised you were out of ammo. quickly to the rescue, zsasz took aim, rushing up behind you and turning you around. "you're an idiot! that was reckless, and dangerous, and...kinda hot." he kissed you, arms gripping at your waist, "but you're still an idiot." you took his head in your hands and rubbed your nose to his "but you love me." he smiled into you, stepping back to reload his weapons. "of course i do, you're my idiot."
harley
it might have been your fault that she'd been beaten up by batman, but it still hadn't warranted the absolute tirade she'd gone on once you were back at her hideout. "you're a complete idiot, y'know!?" and as your eyes fell to the floor she realised that it was the moment to break the cycle. it horrified her how much she sounded like him, scolding you and berating you. staring back up at her, your eyes met, and you spoke meekly. "but you love me...?" harley fell to her knees, wrapping her arms around you and holding you to her chest. "more than words, dumplin', pinky swears."
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just-an-enby-lemon · 2 years ago
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Oswald: You betrayed me!!! So as your final words I want to know why??? What was that Bruce Wayne had to offer that I didn't?
Jonathan: *sound unimpressed* You need to learn some calming tecniques, Mr. Coobleppt. The mind has a strong power over the body and stress can kill someone, specially someone with your age and occupation.
Oswald: STOP BEING STRESSED? STOP BEING STRESSED WAK WAK! DENT WAS MINE! YOU STOLED HIM FROM ME.
Jonathan: Between you and Bruce Wayne I should have noticed sooner Dent's inclination to join man who have an unhealthy obcession with him. It adds another layer for how easy it was to turn him into an obedient puppy. But I'll answer your inquiry, Mr. Cooblebot, Wayne had The Second Skin.
Oswald: He had a what now?
Jonathan: The Second Skin? *Oswald looks puzzled* Basil Karlo legendary last movie?
Oswald: *even agrier* YOU SOLD ME FOR A MOVIE??? With what I was paying you could've made your own movie!!!
Jonathan: I understand you don't have the finese to recognize the artistical importance of The Second Skin. There's only a single copy avaliable all the others were destroyed and the movie was never fully saw. It's said that on it's first and only exibihition all the executives watching put their own eyes out. It's a horror masterpiece.
Oswald: All I'm hearing is that you though a movie was worth more than the benefits of being loyal to The Penguin and for that you'll pay, Crane. Unfortunally my partnership with our friends from Santa Prisca won't help here as they are too occupied with bringing me both Joker's and Batman's heads right now but I found just the right monster to destroy you. He is new on the industry but weird creepy monster is an ever growing market here. CLAYFACE!
Basil Karlo: THE MONSTER IN YOUR NIGHTMARES CAME FOR YOU FROM THE BELLY OF THE NIGHT AND NOW IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO MEET YOUR DOOM!
Oswlad: We already talked about your antics.
Basil: But the artistic presentation is fundamental preparation for a good murder. Don't the victims deserve to feel the drama and horror before the final touch?
Oswald: *rolls his eyes* This type of non-sense talk reminds me of that Scarecrow fella who is still to respond to my generous offer about being only a manufaturer and paying me to act as distribuctor of his drugs.
Jonathan: Maybe he didn't respond because that's a shitty deal that ignores completly why he is on the trafic bussisness to begin with.
Oswald: Oh what do you know? Anyway I have things to do, Karlo, kill him.
Jonathan: *re hinding his secret fear toxin spray, pupils dilated in pleasant shock* You said Karlo? As in Basil Karlo? I did though this creature sounded a lot like him and the speech was from Dread Casttle... Are you also a fan?
Basil: A fan? I AM Basil Karlo. I merely evolved to being the perfect monster outside the screem as well.
Jonathan: Oh that's wonderfull! *genuinally confused for once in his life* But may I ask: why work for Penguin? You must have a fan cult to rivalize Joker's!
Basil: *sadly* That's not the case yet. But I'm new. For sure with time Gotham will recognize my superior talent.
Jonathan: As they should. Your movies changed my life! To observe the impact they had on people, the fear they inspired, it made me realize who I wanted to be!
Penguin: I should not be letting this go, I did pay for a long brutal murder and that's not it. But still I need to ask: you became a psychiatrist because of horror movies?
Jonathan: ... Sure. Let's go with that. Anyhow, can I have a final wish, Mr. Cooblebot?
Penguin: You can ask, but don't expect me to accept it wak wak.
Jonathan: Would you not take from Karlos pay if he first gave me an autograph? Nothing would make me happier.
Basil: *before Penguin could open his mind* Absolutly. Anything for such a dedicated fan.
Jonathan: *who may be planning to fear toxin everyone but also DOES have the biggest celebrity crush ever on Karlo and truly is his biggest fan* *squeaks happily* *does a tiny hroo hraa*
Basil: *who really likes still having fans and is less and less wanting to violently kill the first person who apreaciated him in ages* *also who keeps a pen on him waiting for this particular moment and was starting to doubt it would happen* Where do you want it?
Jonathan: *frantically looking into his pockets for some piece of papper* Shit, shit, I let my notepad with Wayne so he could read Dent's entreances.
Basil: Don't worry *takes a papper from a blank piece on Oswald's accounts book that's on the tabble, at this point Oswald is regreesting everything* For my biggest fan?
Jonathan: *almost jumping with excitmenet* Doctor Jonathan Crane!
Basil: I hope the fear I inspired stays with you forever. Here it goes.
Jonathan: *taking the papper in pure joy* Thank you!
Basil: Look, Cooblepot, I can't kill him.
Oswald: What because the FAMOUS PSYCHIATRIST is using the most basic manipulation tecnique? I bet he doesn't even know your movies.
Jonathan: Seriusly? We are literally here because I sold you out for one of his movies. Also I wouldn't go so low as to pretend to be a fan, is too easy, too boring. It tells me nothing about my target... patient... I didn't knew yet.
Basil: He does seems honest.
Oswald: No he doesn't. He isn't really your fan. But I? I'm proving it. I'm helping you recover your fame ain't I?
Jonathan: I'm sure Scarecrow would do the same except he would actually care about the art and not see it as a way to trick someone he only sees as a weapon and not an artist.
Oswald and Basil look confused at him.
Jonathan: What? He does little references to Karlo movies all the time, I bet he would adore a new movie to torment his subjects with.
Oswald: *raises and eyebrown*
Jonathan: In my professional opinion of course. : )
Oswald: Do you do this psychiatric party tricks with all of us, Mr. Crane?
Jonathan: I wound't call my doctorate on psychiatry wich by itself needs an M.D and my minor in psychology party tricks, but yes. Gotham criminals just as it's crime fighters are fascinating. It would be a waste not to try to understand their minds at least a little bit. You for once is completly obcessed with control likely from extreme bullying paired with high expectations that created an extreme fear of failure and a low notion of self that materialize in a quasi compulsive need to have the control you never before had so you can force the connections, love and adoration you long for Is sad if not pathetically clichê. Also your real laugh is normal you just thinks "wak wak" fits nicely with your presentation *Oswald opens his mouth* and now you will insist I'm wrong because you refuse to admit that as much as you loathe your nickname you do identify with it... Penguin. Again boringly clichê. Now if you excuse me, I have better things to do. *gets out as if Oswald doesn't have a gun and a Claymonster and a lot of determination to kill him* It was an absolute honor Mr. Karlo and I'll treasure your autograph with my life and while I'm not in any position of giving you life changing advice right now, I'm certain that Scarecrow would be extemely happy working with you and treat you waaay better than Penguin. *waves to a short circuting fumming Oswald cause he is extra*
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BRIDGERTON S2 REVIEW WITH SPOILERS (and comparisons to the book)
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bridgerton s2 was lovely! I to be honest dont know where to start. though i guess i should start with the obviouse stars of the show.
The chemistry of Simone and Jonathan is impeccable and I could not ask for a better casting.
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Kate and Anthony's plot were well thought out in my opinion, and I loved the gutwrenching-ly good slowburn the show delivered. The lines were very well written, and I'm grateful that they chose to make them fall in love with each other naturally and in their own pace rather than the rushed feel in the books. I like that they weren't verbatim FORCED TO MARRY BECAUSE OF A BEE! but still incorporated that fear of Anthony's without making it a huge phobia of the bees itself rather than his own fear of the memories of his father's death, losing his father, and what his family especially his mama and him had to go through.
though to be honest, i also quite liked the book's version where Eloise was the one to have witnessed her father's death, i feel as though it would make her relate much more with Sir Crane (IF her love plot would follow the books).
back to Kate, the one thing I really wished they would've put in the show is Kate's fear of storms. I loved that Anthony's irrational fear of bees were dimmed, and I know it would've added to mere subplot in the show, but I think Kate's fear of storms and the story of her biological mama's death would've bonded them more rather than just their lust for each other in the beginning, for example, the library scene in the book i think is better than the one in the show.
The ending felt rather anticlimactic to me, and i truly don't know why. I don't know if it's just me, i dont know if it's because i set up too high of an expection for a grand ending, of course i'm happy for them, and i still love the ending, but i dont know why i cant help but feel like they couldve done better? OR IDK MAYBE IM JUST A SUCKER FOR WEDDING SCENES IN MOVIES AND SHOWS AND WAS A BIT DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY DIDNT SHOW IT? thats probably it
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Eloise's plot this season was chef's kiss! And I don't have much to say about her character and the comparisons in the books.
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I at first, was shocked to watch that in the show Edwina actually fell in love with THEE Lord Bridgerton, because in the book she just felt kinda burdened and (i feel that she feels) uncomfortable with the whole trying to find a spouse who'd be able to support mama and Kate too; plus it was really obvious to her in the book that Kate and Anthony were smitten by one another.
I do like that Edwina, in the show is sure and strongheaded in what she believes in and wants for herself, even if in the beginning it might not seem that way.
The Featherington's subplot about the mines etc, PLUS THE WEIRD THING GOING ON WITH LADY FEATHERINGTON AND THE NEW LORD FEATHERINGTON is kinda weird and uneccesary me thinks, but idk maybe it's because i dont really care for them except for Penelope.
Penelope's plot this season was meh, but that's because I suspect she'll have a more bigger role in S3 or even have the third season be for her and Colin (since we did find out that Shonda said she would not go in order according to the books, and we were left by that cliffhanger of Colin saying he would never court Penelope which is not much of a cliffhanger should you want to read the books) Also, i really dont like how she was selfish enough to keep Eloise from meeting Theo, like I know she was trying to protect herself, but SHE LITERALLY could've gone to another print shop LIKE PAYING A BIT MORE AND MOVING, IN THE SAME TIME AS TO NOT HURT YOUR BEST FRIEND'S FEELINGS OR EXPOSE UNWANTED SECRETS IS WORTH IT DANGIT, and Eloise and Theo could enjoy each other's companies much longer.
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Colin's a dumbass. A literal dumbass. Everytime i see his face and the decision he makes i just go "dumbass..." I literally do not hate him, but you get it right? like? right?
Benedict's plot for me was also meh, though I do not wish for the showrunners to make him a drug addict please! ISTG it wont add any substance to his character
Im far more interested in Francesca's plot and how they're going to manage to mend it in the third season.
Gregory and Hyacinth always cute as ever, and I LOVED that exchange between Gregory and Anthony, also that ball scene of the Sharmas and Bridgertons dancing together!!
Daphne's role wasnt that significant in this season but that's to be expected, but I loved how even if she is younger than Anthony by age, she knows more in terms of emotional intelligence than him (even if all the Bridgertons seem to share one single brain cell :))
The Queen's plot is also interesting. I can see how she loves The King so, but is so sad and heartbroken by him at the same time and how she wishes to be able to repeat time just to seep in the good old days with His Majesty.
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ALSO LADY BRIDGERTON?? LIKE I EXPECTED MORE FROM YOU GIRL!! But then again, i think it kinda made sense for her not to push so much since in the beginning of S2, she pushed and Anthony just kept being more aggravated at her, but like idk i guess i just kinda missed how she pushed Daphne, bcs come on, a mother's feelings are never wrong.
Lady Danbury's always-meddling and never-minding-her-own-business is great although sometimes annoying, I can see why it's definitely of use.
I DEFINITELY LOVED the fact that in the show, they clearly chose to marry each other because THEY DO love each other and are brave enough to declare so.
SONG CHOICES THIS SEASON WERE QUESTIONABLE?? WHY HOW DEEP IS YOUR LOVE BY CALVIN HARRIS? WHY NOT LITERALLY ANY OTHER SONG IN THIS WORLD. i liked the song choices in S1 better tbh.
LETS GIVE A HUGE ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THE CREW! I HAVE TO GIVE THEM A SPECTACULAR APPRECIATION FOR THEIR ATTENTION TO DETAIL, AND DEDICATION TO MAKE THIS SEASON THE SHT! especially the writers pls :,) i thought the i burn for you scene in s1 was pheww, but there are 3 scenes in s2 that just melted my being away, which were the HONOR line scene, CONSUME MY VERY BEING - LILIES scene, and last but not least the YOU MUST FEEL IT, BECAUSE I DO line scene.
Overall even with room for improvement for the next season, or things they could've done better (for me) this season was wonderful, and im always a sucker for a good enemies to lovers plot <3
Kathony! You will always be famous!
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