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[kittyoswald]

I can't understand why One Piece white washed so much Robin and Zoro, like post TS characters are so pale! Even Usopp is less black than in the pre TS series.

[takeachillpillshawty]

I don't know how to start this off but I was scrolling through Pinterest and saw this cool edit of Norton from IDV with his skin slightly tanner than his actual sprite and a person in the comments is like 'white washing bad 😠, black washing good😜' in a sarcastic way you know. I want to put my two sense in and lay this argument to rest.

Is Black washing as bad as White washing and my answer is

*drum roll for effect*

No it's not. I want you guys to realize that White washing is a real thing that's affecting our world history and people debating whether Jesus is white or middle eastern or is Yasuke was a real person. And 'black washing' is just some Poc editing their favorite anime as black, Hispanic, Indian to have a closer connection to them.

At the end of the day, we know Naruto isn't black, that Shinobu isn't black, that Midoriya isn't black. IT'S .JUST . EDITS. "b..but you're erasing their culture." Just because someone drew Sanemi with a durag doesn't mean he's officially black. At the end of the day, it's just an edit. We know the characters don't look like that! And not everyone in the world is a white dude \ chick, most cosplayers I see are either mixed or pocs. Some artists take it in their own hands to draw anime characters as their own race because what other characters do we have?

Not all black girls wanna be Canary from hxh and not all dudes wanna be killer bee. "but...but it's hard to draw black features in anime art styles...". THE FUCKING BOONDOCKS EXIST, there are modern day anime that are including black people and other people of color because they exist.

The reason why white washing is a big fucking problem is because it's actually harmful and make you realize that some people just hate non white people. Tell me why I found out picnics were linked with the lynching of black people, Tell me why if found out George Washington's dentures were made with the teeth of slaves? Tell me why people are still arguing that Jesus is white despite him being middle eastern, tell me why history books paint people who erased or genocided different ethnicities and cultures as founders and never their victims, tell me why hollywood would rather cast a white actors for a roll that was specifically made for a person of color? History has been white washed and spoon fed to us by the colonizers, and you're pissing yourself because someone drew your waifu as a hot latina baddie?

And when people of color make their own stories, movies, games and series about their race and culture everyone call it 'woke' and rather regurgitate the same story over and over again with no spice or creativity. Before anyone brings up Velma, that show was bad even if the cast were still white, the writing was terrible and couldn't be creative to save their life.

So conclusion, White washing is bad because it affects history and actually erases cultures and ethnicities that existed and were are doom to make the same mistakes if we don't learn from them, While black washing is just someone making an edit of Sebek as a black man with a durag.

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[theparadiseproject]

Marston did not "white wash" Ancient Greek culture. It's just a prominent part of western culture.

Also no one alive now, nor in the 40s when she was created, was from Ancient Greece or had some cultural claim to Ancient Greek culture or the religion to genuinely claim it's offensive or anything akin to "appropriation" or reductive to a still alive group of people since its called "Ancient Greece" for a reason.

You shouldn't be applying modern sociological phenomenons or terms to describe people talking about or using any part of a long dead society or the practices or beliefs of the people that were apart of it a very long time ago and was one of the most powerful, dominant and influential cornerstones to Western Society the same way you would a marginalized community of people that still exist in modern day. This is just silly.

The Amazons in DC were not meant to be historically accurate or anything like that. They were purposefully used and reinterpreted to build the mythology of a superhero in pulp fiction to represent a very specific idea. They were not meant to look like any racial group other than ones that would relate specifically to the American audience they were created for. They were not meant to be warriors but super powered beings. They did not use sword and shields but advanced technology and science. Their worship was specifically crafted around certain themes and ideas that were specific to Marston and his interests.

Theres nothing wrong with any of these things and he clearly took a very inspired, well thoughtout approach to ensure he made his version of the Amazons specific to what he was intending to portray while still being written faithfully and in line with the myths that inspired them.

It doesn't even make sense to say they aren't faithful to the source material because they are not characters created in a previous literary work but mythological figures that were used as inspiration for a pulp fiction super hero adventure comic. You choosing to be offended over something you can't possibly have any legitimate claim to anymore than anyone else raised in Western society or somewhere heavily touched by it is you purposefully misapplying ideas, concepts, dynamics that apply to real living things to something that would not even make sense given that the people that would even need to be around for to claim such offenses don't exist and would not do so since they were not marginalized groups of people that had their culture torn from them but a vast collection of some of the most influential and powerful forces in history that were able to spread their culture so far that it impacted all of the world, specifically the West, where people with a specific phenotype you are trying to claim is being used to "erase" people would also have this culture be foundational to the world around them and have as much claim as anyone that is presumably more phenotypically close to the supposed people that cultivated this culture despite the fact that the existing inhabitants of part of the world practice a completely different culture and religion due to their ancestors converting to Christianity and this religion and anyone that could trace their practices and beliefs back to the ancient culture they hail from having passed away without keeping it alive. So the only people that still worship or practice are re constructionist and later practitioners that are not related to those Ancient Greeks at all.

This is what I mean when I say the "Wonder Woman fandom" misapplies modern sociological ideas and politics to make an issue that simply does not exist.

Paradise island was likely in the Pacific Ocean, no where near Europe or Eurasia or the Mediterranean. Diana was modeled after an Irish woman with white skin, blue eyes, and black hair. The Amazons were meant to have the racial phenotypes common to Americans, obviously white Americans, of that time and not any sort of supposedly resemblance to what Academics say the "real amazons" would have looked like or were modeled after. It is fantasy to appeal to an American audience and that is not a bad thing at all.

Even when understanding the underlying beliefs and desires behind the Amazons meaning to appeal to an American audience so they were all very clearly white women there is no such thing as "white washing" the Amazons or anything like that. Frankly, there should be more concern with diversifying the Amazons to include more racial groups that are prominent in the US, like black people, as opposed to trying to perfectly emulate the characteristics of a fictional group of women that these Amazons were not meant to represent or look or be like in the first place.

Its just trying to ruin the character under the guise of "realism" or "historical accuracy" when the whole point is that they are neither of those things and trying to make them that flies in the face of their creation.

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