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also I've been thinking about Des my oc Des (short for Destiel) and about the song Os Anjos by Legião Urbana (a song about an angel being so so tired from all the evils of humanity) and about DTA Castiel (a fallen angel who is disillusioned with humanity) (and about how even in canon both Dean and Cas are very jaded and sarcastic guys), and I think I'm having some Thoughts about what to make of Des's personality
#youni originals#modern weirdos#des#basically all I have on him so far is he's an actual cowboy. like has his own little ranch. also very flirty#which is very dean#but thinking about an angel being so fucking tired of all the bullshit going on in the world and deciding to retire and#become a cowboy instead. and eventually learning of destiel and seeing sides (both good and bad) of himself in both of the characters#and being like fuck it that's who i am now. and naming himself destiel.#plus i loooove when angels are actually huge bitches#like yes this is a cosmic being who is good and righteous. and if you look at it wrong it WILL tell you to go fuck yourself.#also thinking about him being kinda neighbors with mill (reclusive lich who hates vampires) and having a flirty gay thing with her#like they're not together at all but they flirt and tease each other (or at least des does) to the point of people thinking they are#also des as an angel has so much knowledge (and possibly powers) that mill as a wizard would probably find useful#also the idea of an angel (holy being) and a lich (corrupted undead human) being friends. very fun
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can't stop thinking about the concept of post-canon Destiel reunion where Dean confesses his mutual romantic feelings and Cas is so happy, don't get him wrong! but even though he's grown fond of this vessel that he's had for years, for some reason Cas can't seem to get past his worry and insecurity that maybe Dean isn't 100% sold on the whole idea of being intimate with a man.
so without meeting Dean's gaze, Cas hesitantly offers with a touch of sadness, "if this vessel isn't satisfactory for you, i-i could perhaps try to procure a female v-"
and Dean grabs Cas by his heated cheeks, promptly shutting him up with a kiss.
once the initial shock subsides and Cas finally starts to relax, Dean pulls back just enough to whisper against the angel's lips, "i want you just like this. this," Dean squeezes Cas' face for emphasis, "is the Cas that i met in that barn all those years ago. this is the Cas that pulled me outta hell." Dean trails wet kisses along Cas' stubbled jawline, pausing when his lips reach the angel's ear. "this is the Cas i fell in love with."
Castiel melts against Dean with a whimper.
#my headcanon for dean is that he def has internalized homophobia from his shit father that he's had to work through#and cas knows this which is why he's cautious#but dean is 100% very into cas' male vessel#dean winchester#castiel#destiel#deancas#destiel ficlet#destiel drabble#spn#supernatural#emily yaps
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Whenever fanfiction has Dean say he hates Cas’s coat or thinks it's stupid or ugly and he wants to see Cas out of it as soon as possible I simply must disagree. He kept that thing for a whole year full of rank water. He saw Cas back in his usual getup and gotar bonar. Dean loves cartoons. He loves costumes. He loves Cas’s coat.
#he wants to jerk off on it. who said that.#he wants to jerk off on it both on the outside (marking his territory) and on the inside (intimate and defiling.).#he wants to wear the coat and nothing else and jerk off and then give it back to Cas while it's still warm from his body.#idk who said that must have been the wind#this is a passing thought I haven't seen this recently#Dean does ALSO very much enjoy seeing Cas dressed up but he LOVES base Cas who wears the same outfit every day#am i projecting because I always dismiss when cas is described in other clothes and imagine him in the trench coat anyway. yes.#but there is textual evidence that dean likes the coat#also his 'you think it's crappy 🥺' 'eye of the beholder' comment#even if he DID think Cas's coat was lame. which he doesn't!!! he could never say it to him
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the theme of purity/uncleanliness which is integral to sam’s character is very much female coding but spn fandom isn’t ready for this conversation
#there’s also so much to say about the way dean treats him when he learns about ruby and sam’s addiction#he kind of treats sam like a wh*re#and he quite literally acts like a raging husband who learned his wife is cheating on him#which also plays out very blatantly in 4.14 where the siren says that dean craves the ideal version of sam#aka sam who is virginally pure. who isn’t poisoned/dirtied by the demonic blood#we need to talk more about these metaphors#sam winchester#wincest#samdean#spn
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the life altering our kid emphasis.. they think they gave birth to him I love it
#I love how sam tried and failed to convince that lady to help them save jack#and when dean tries to get her to do it sam makes this doe-eyed pleading face he was relying on dean to get through to her#which is very baby brotherism he asked for no pickles kind of thing#samdean#spn#sam winchester#dean winchester#mine#wincest#jackdeansam
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people who’ve only seen hatchetfield: starkid has like practically no gay characters :/
the avp trilogy which has been sitting right there for probably most of their lives and is the foundation of everything:
plus these less explicit more headcanony (but like, BARELY) examples that i really think are worth mentioning as well, i have receipts don’t tempt me i will literally make an entire video about this stuff (and i might actually):
#i will literally fight you over lavender btw#i was tempted to put her in the first category#(i will fight you about ron as well)#also like…#girl nobody Has to watch everything but if they’re gonna make sweeping statements like this and act like authorities Yes they do actually#harry is fruity as hell idc what that incorrect subtitle of scarfy in avps says#(no seriously the subtitle is wrong he says METROSEXUAL i’ll die on this hill)#that man L O V E S zac efron#in fact basically all the men do#starkid#team starkid#avpm#avps#avpsy#avpt#avp trilogy#a very potter musical#a very potter sequel#a very potter senior year#a very potter trilogy#also seamus & dean are canonically polyamorous????#if 'being open to the idea of both dating ginny at the same time' counts#in which case. draco is also canonically polyamorous
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okay i might be wrong here but the way i see it, one of the key reasons why sam’s relationship with cas is different than the one dean has with him is because sam never stopped seeing him as an angel. and i mean, as a multidimensional being. a very nice and dorky and empathetic multidimensional being, but still an Angel Of The Lord. whereas dean stopped very, very quickly to register the true meaning of the word ‘angel’ when it came to cas. cas is just cas, nothing else. and of course the other key reason is that cas and dean are super fucjing gay for each othr
#i just really think sam never shook that off#he got very close with cas#but i do believe he still sees him for what he is#which is why HE couldn’t have changed cas#dean changed him because he saw cas as something other than what he was#as something that feels#sam saw cas and saw an angel#and as much as cas changed along the way#he still saw an angel all throughout#fully neutrally right like not in a ‘he’s abnormal’ or ‘dangerous way’#just#different#‘he’s still an incomprehensible being despite sitting down with us to make sandwiches at 2am’#kind of thing#spn#ophi spoketh#cas#sam#dean
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Love how some dean stans will say “sam was selfish for leaving his family to go to college!” and “john is abusive” in the same breath. Like.
#to be clear I am not saying John isn’t abusive#he def is#More like it’s crazy that some Dean stans will call Sam selfish for leaving even though he was leaving an abusive household#well not a household. cuz no house. but ykwim#even tho they seem to understand that it WAS a toxic/abusive environment#I think it’s cuz some dean stans genuinely think john only abused dean#or John’s neglect only affected dean cuz Sam had dean as a parental figure#which ofc is crazy cuz like sam still was very much neglected too#he wasn’t parentified like Dean but that dosent mean it wasn’t tough for him too#could talk abt this for a while tbh#spn#supernatural#sam winchester#dean winchester#gencest
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i think a lot about the idea of sam’s relationship to sh (both the widely recognized types and the more subtle types). in my mind it would start as a sort of self-punishment (pre-series after a hunt that doesn’t go well and he finds the pain of an injury grounding / reminding) and then continues it as a combination of punishment & cleansing until s7, where it would transfer over into pain as a connection to reality / control over his body (he’s getting scars from hunting but he’s getting more scars from himself so that means more in the end). s8 would kind of be a movement back into the cleansing state of mind (embracing & valuing the pain from the trials) but post-09x10 would very firmly be about re-finding security within his body. anyways the sam in my head has sh scars
#i love when the lighting hits sam’s arm just right and it looks like he actually does <3#there's a very specific moment that startled me on my first watch of 04x01 where i was like. wait a fucking second#but it was just some shadows that happened to look similar#i think that sam does have many canon actions that could be considered sh (“self-mutilation” sex with ruby. s7 hand scar.#s8 trials pain.) but i could also easily see him engaging in outside more explicitly sh actions as well#honestly i do count the s7 palm scar as a scar representative of sh / sh scar in the end (even though it wasn’t self-inflicted initially)#due to the way that he uses it to deliberately inflict pain which is the technical definition#ive actually been working on a fic abt sam & sh for a while but i have no idea how i want to end it#which is making it hard to work on & i am avoiding it :/#because like. stopping it isn't how most people write it and it drives me just a lil bit crazy <3 the miraculous#power of dean would not suddenly fix him nor would they address it in an effective / meaningful way <3#tw sh#tw sh destructive behaviour#ask to tag
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in my sam-and-dean-fuck-during-stanford-era-thus-ruining-their-relationship-and-causing-them-not-to-talk-for-almost-twenty-years-in-which-time-dean-becomes-a-firefighter au, dean and bobby nash are really good friends. just, fyi.
#they're in the same aa group when bobby gets to la. dean's the only one with even a vague idea about his past and vice versa.#it's not a “let's help each other to be better healthier people” type of friendship#more a “you see the monster in me and i in you and don't flinch away so we keep each other from falling apart completely”#which is all vaguely homoerotic in the best ways but ultimately just a very deep platonic bond between two ultimately#lonely and alienated people#anyway#dean winchester#bobby nash#spn#911 abc#wincest#samdean#9 1 1#supernatural#fanfiction#fanfic#fanfic ideas#crossovers#mine
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i’ve said this soooo many times but i cannot believe the widespread fandom take on nightmares is ‘episode that proves john didn’t hit the kids or at least that sam didn’t know about :)’ NO??? that entire episode is to directly parallel sam to max??? i really hate to break it to you guys but sam being like Damn at least we weren’t and aren’t still being regularly beat to shit by the two male parental figures in our lives 🙏 lucky to have dad fr is not the same as him saying Wow i’m so grateful dad never hit us at all. essentially he is literally like ‘if dad had got drunk more often and hadn’t channeled his energy into hunting maybe we would’ve ended up like max. guess i should be grateful he didn’t”. hello. how does that endorse an entirely violence-free parenting style. like have your own interpretation. but the text of the episode isn’t saying John didn’t hit them. the text of the episode is intentionally bringing up the concept of john hitting them, withholding direct judgement/confirmation on whether it happened and keeping it ambiguous, sure, but still bringing it to our attention.
#Supernatural withholds judgement on everything so like.#it does it well in early seasons ambiguity is good! and. Less Well in later seasons#it’s also ironic cause like. i mean they were regularly Getting beat to shit via.#. monster fighting. neglecting to protect kids from physical harm also counts as physical abuse. btw.#but that’s like. the obvious takeaway#and so is dean’s little Look at the end of the ep which is obviously meant to imply that he doesn’t agree with sam. which. well#but like. idk it’s a widespread fandom idea too that if john did hit them he only hit dean. i even used to go by that!! but ur ignoring even#more subtext if u think that#and like#it’s Purposeful that the first psychic kid we see who sam very strongly identifies with#is a kid w a physically abusive father they write like this on purpose….#they do it again with sam in s7 too. him & amy pond r directly paralleled and we see her mom hit her on screen that eps what made me change#my mind re my opinion on this in regards to sam#anyway.#spn#oliver talks#winchester family dynamics#spn 1x14
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Underrated Wincest song: Child of Cain
#or maybe it’s not underrated idk i only see two children in a motel and inbred#esp since those two are explicitly incest#which is very valid but also#consider#esp the second stanza#like just let it stew in your brain fir a bit#dean winchester#wincest#samdean#sam winchester#ethel cain#supernatural
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people who are afraid of fem sirius are the weakest links in this fandom
#booo boooorrrrinnngggg#you think he should be masc? a tough guy? like he was in canon? boy do i have some news about canon for you#infinite versions of these characters exist and the special sirius inside your head belongs to you and he can be as masc as you want#but complaining about feminine portrayals of a queer character (because it’s never people arguing that sirius is straight) is so pathetic#THEY WERENT GAY IN CANON EITHER BRENDA#plus it’s like#the joanne version of sirius is literally dean winchester like that’s the tattooed motorcycle riding bad boy she envisioned. and sometimes#i fuck with that very stereotypically masc bad boy vision! but don’t act like people are crazy for suggesting (sometimes) that#that gender performance is just that- a performance#which may even be compensating for something or masking some other true internal feeling? could that not be interesting to explore?#a sirius who rides the motorcycle and is covered with tattoos but also wears a dress sometimes? or makeup? this won’t kill you i promise#plus it’s like. a character written by the most notorious transphobe. so perhaps arguing that the characters MUST conform to the binary#they were written into isn’t um transgressive or creative even#^ mucho texto :O#fern.txt
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sam isn’t an alpha, he’s a feral, rebellious omega. you know this stereotype that all omegas are sexually passive and naturally submissive? sam never fitted into the ideal omega image and he only willingly submits to his mate (dean), no one else
#sam got pregnant with dean jr so he’s most definitely NOT an alpha <3#sam winchester#wincest#samdean#spn#anyway this dynamic is just *chef’s kiss*. i love when omegas are big & feral bc it’s so untypical#also omega!sam going against the rules and refusing to submit to alpha!john is so hot#he would probably have extremely painful heats & he would get very needy but also aggressive during them#which would make him feel even more like a “freak” like there’s something wrong with him#and dean would have to restrain him occasionally#he’s the only alpha who can tame sam and only bc sam ALLOWS it#honestly i think even john wouldn’t be able to make sam submit to him despite sam being an omega
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a fan in this panel i'm watching asked about the cas and collette paralells so i got curious and went looking through s10 for castiel and collette mirroring but i didn't find any so now, genuinely wondering what's being paralleled between the two in a way that also mirrors dean and cas to cain and collette, i just straight up looked it up on here and the num1 reason just seems to be sam omission
#like it's very largely hinged on the fact that they didn't cast an abel#(<- which already doesn't make sense bc the whole point is that he's dead. cain killed him#his absence is needed for cain's character to have an impact. especially on dean. whose abel is working on getting rid of the mark#ANDDD is acting as a surrogate collette during the interim of him having the mark)#and that seems to give them the room they need to ignore sam's role in the moc arc entirely#there's a lot of just saying that the parallel is there and that cas mirrors the role/sits in the role of collette but no evidence#but i've seen gifsets of the sam and collette mirroring... so...#cas is also very much more so directly involved with sam and angel politics than he is to dean in this season so#like all the sneaking he does for dean is on behalf of sam. so there's a massive amount of canon cas omission going on here as well#looks around. no one is surprised. every one is getting up and leaving actually#anyway i think u could say that dean's entire support system was dean's collette and even that would make more sense than it just being cas#also jensen's response to this question was to tell the story about how he stabbed jared in the scene after dean kills cain#and they acted it out because of course they did they act it out every time#÷
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bi dean-ers looking upon the gay dean landscape of 2023....... we used to rule this town
bi deans still run this town they've just issued a ceasefire. which is what gay dean truthers were fighting and dying for the whole time .. after years of dying in civil war our government has acquiesced to our demands of being able to say gay dean openly. in the streets. you are no longer restricted to the privacy of your discord server. you no longer run the risk of being shot where you stand for saying the words gay dean. peace and love. on planet earth
#ask#anonymous#spnwatch#it is funny to look at Old gay dean posts which say the same thing as the very recent one#and see that they have fewer notes while knowing that they spawned no less than 3 angry anons and 48 hours of vague blogging
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