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7ndipity · 1 day ago
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Their Love Languages
Ot7 x Reader
Summary: What the members main love languages are(both giving and receiving)
Warning: none, I think
A/N: First off, I'm so sorry for not posting much the past few weeks, I'm really hoping to get back to posting regularly again, but thank you all for your patience and understanding. A big thanks to @universal-travel-er for requesting this, I hope you like it!
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Jin: Giving: I think it’s a mix of Gifts and Quality Time. He seems to take a lot of delight in giving the members gifts, however odd some of them might seem(gold toilet brush lol). He also understands the importance of being with the people that matter most, so he definitely makes spending time together top priority(He literally planned a entire event at Lotte world so he could hang out with Army for the day)
Receiving: Quality Time and Words of Affirmation. He’s an introvert at his core, but spending time with the select people that he feels most comfortable with means the world to him. Even if you’re doing separate things, just being able to spend time existing in each other's proximity makes him happy. Also, I just feel like his constant plays for complements(I look handsome, right?” “Whaa! Have you ever seen someone play this well?!”) aren’t entirely for the joke. He really does crave them, they give him an instant boost of confidence like nothing else
Yoongi: Giving, there’s no question that his main love language is Acts of Service, we’ve seen it from him making food/snacks for his members, checking in on trainees, even just playing along with little requests from fans during livestreams. It warms his heart like nothing else to be of service to those around him. I also think he’s really big on words of affirmation. He’s always praising others in his soft, gentle way.
Receiving: I think it’s the same two, plus Quality Time. He appreciates acknowledgement of his efforts and someone who’ll look out for him as much as he does for them. He also values his free time greatly, and so someone making a conscious effort to dedicate time for him means a lot to him. Similar to Jin, you don’t even have to necessarily be doing the same thing, so long as you’re together(all those fics about hanging in his studio are onto something, tho I think he avoids working when he’s with his S/o)
Hobi: Giving: Gifts! He loves treating his members and loved ones to little surprises, whether that's with a simple coffee/dinner or some super elaborate gift(like when he made Jimin a physical copy of his song ‘Promise’ with a proper album booklet and everything). It makes him so happy to be able to provide for his loved one in some way, and he really loves finding special, unique things to show that he cares.
Receiving: He seems to really glow from Words of Affirmation, he loves having his efforts acknowledged and receiving praise. Acts of Service also seems to be a big one for him, The way he gets soo excited whenever one of the members comes by during a mv shoot or helps him with something(Jimin killing the bug for him during In The Soop lol), it makes him so happy to know that people actually want to help him too, not just the other way around.
Joon: He’s mentioned before that one of his love languages is Words of affirmation, both giving and receiving. He really values verbal expressions of affection and encouragement, and so he tries to give that back to those around him. Another big one for him as well is Quality Time. He’s very much an extrovert and knows the importance of spending time around those that you love, so he definitely makes an effort to be there for them as much as possible.
Receiving: Same as above. Having someone to just sit and talk with him about whatever soothes his heart like nothing else. It doesn’t matter if it’s a super deep topic or not(though knowing him, it’ll inevitably turn philosophical lol), just having someone spend time with him means the world to him. And that goes hand in hand with Words of Affirmation. As I said before, he really values verbal connection and encouragement, so genuine compliments or words of positivity makes his heart so happy
Jimin: For Giving, it’s definitely Acts of Service and Words of Affirmation. He’s very much a care-er, everyone who spends more than two minutes with him talks about how helpful and generous he is. He’s always making sure those around him are taken care of and encouraged in whatever it is they’re doing, or giving comfort if he sees someone struggling. Even in the military, other soldiers have shared how he treats them to food or gives up his phone time for them. He just wants to make sure everyone’s looked after and taken care of.
Receiving: Words of Affirmation and Physical Touch. We’ve all seen how physically affectionate he is with the members and his friends, he takes an immense amount of joy and comfort in physical contact, even if it's just a simple touch on his hand or shoulder. He also absolutely lights up whenever he receives praise, and really cherishes every piece of encouragement that he receives.
Taehyung: Giving: Words of Affirmation, He thrives on praise, and he also gives the same out to those around him happily. He’s always giving words of encouragement to the people around him. I’m reminded of him cheering on the crew in the middle of a sandstorm during the Yet To Come video shoot, and when a fan mentioned how she was joining the military because she wanted to help her family, and he told her that she was already helpful and valuable just by existing. He loves to lift up and encourage those around him through his words
Receiving: It should come as a shock to no one that his main languages are Words of Affirmation and Physical Touch. Look at the way that boy’s face lights up when someone compliments and try to argue with me. He absolutely thrives on praise. He’s talked about how he would work extra hard on choreo because he wanted praise from Hobi. He is also one of the biggest cuddle bugs I’ve ever seen, he’s always seeking out hugs and physical contact from the members or his friends, and this would only become more intense with his S/o.
Jungkook: Giving: Quality Time and Words of Affirmation. He seems to really put high priority on spending time with his loved ones as a way of making them feel seen and appreciated(yes, I’m still crying over his surprise weverse live, don’t touch me😭). He’s also always more than ready to give out compliments and words of encouragement to anyone around him, especially if he notices someone having a tough time.
Receiving: Quality Time, Words of Affirmation, and Physical Touch. Tbh I could’ve put all five languages for Kookie, he thrives on all forms of love and affection. The members have mentioned how easily sad he gets if he’s not included in things, he’s at his happiest when he’s with his people. He tends to be rather hard on himself, so he really relies on and takes a lot of comfort from praise and words of encouragement. He’s also mentioned how he really craves Physical Touch as a way to feel connected to his loved ones.
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stxneflxwers · 19 hours ago
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I saw your post and came running 👀 I've been thinking about this since the end of December bc I really did not get into the holiday spirit until after it was over lmao BUT for any characters you want to write for: what are they like during the holidays? What traditions do they like to do? What gifts do they give you?
(Extra ideas you can take or leave if it helps your inspiration at all — How does Aventurine feel when you tell him you don't need any of those expensive gifts, just time with him? How does Sunday react when you sit him down to tell him he's stressing himself out too hard trying to find a perfect gift for you and that all you want is for him to be happy? How does Dan Heng respond when you tell him that the only gift you want for the holidays is him?)
^ I've just been rotating the hsr boys in my head all day at work lol so I have a lot of Thoughts™
gift of love.
summary. the greatest gift of all is his love.
a/n. tysm for the request!!! i decided to settle with gift-giving ideas you offered, since it sounded interesting and cute!! im just gonna stick with aven and sunday for this tho... i wanna test how sunday writes for me.
characters. aventurine. sunday.
cw. first time writing for sunday (this is more of a test with how much i enjoy writing him, sry for any OOC-ness). gift-giving. all lowercase. established relationship(s). PLS NOTE THAT I HAVEN'T DONE THE NEW TRAILBLAZE MISSION STILL CUZ I'M A LAZY MFER...SORRY.
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aventurine.
tries to be soooo sneaky about figuring out what you like as gifts. he wants all of his gifts to be a surprise, after all! it doesn't work. you see right through his game plan. he's a smidgen disappointed (with himself), and might be a bit surprised depending on the kind of person you are.
he still ends up showering you in expensive gifts of things you enjoy. he tries to find the most expensive edition of any of those things even though he, of all people, should know that expensive ≠ well-made. you have to tell him to chill out.
he immediately believes you're angry with him (why wouldn't you be?). but you're not, and you can see the panic flash in his eyes for the tiniest of moments. you sigh softly with a wary smile. you briefly give him some space before talking to him about it.
you tell him that all the most expensive gifts in the world are nothing in comparison to quality time together. you remain patient with an open-mind and a listening ear – you know he needs a wealth of both. you make sure to tell him you miss him.
his mouth hangs open in silence when you tell him that, for once he's at a loss for words. his mouth closes and he smiles. he takes you into a soft hug and whispers, "i miss you too."
he makes an evident effort to be around you more often when he does have the time. you know, instead of wasting half of it out in the casino.
and it makes all the difference.
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sunday.
the most perfectionist to ever perfectionist. stop him before he literally keels over from stress.
thankfully, you notice how weary he's been. and you ask him what's wrong. because at this point – everyone knows, everyone notices how he's been stuck in his head (more than usual). he frets over little things, as usual. but now he seems almost snippy. birdie is cranky.
when he eventually gives in and confesses that he cannot find the "right" gift for you, you're smiling and shaking your head. you give him a very long moment of silence, testing him – seeing if he catches on what you'll say next.
he doesn't catch on "quick enough", much to his dismay. perhaps he hasn't adjusted to your praises and reassurances...yet.
you tell him that the greatest gift of all would be for him to be happy. to be relaxed. to be in the moment. you throw in a little whisper, "maybe by my side, too."
he's silent – his mind running amok with what to say next. he settles for an awkward yet genuinely affectionate, "thank you..."
and then he asks for your forgiveness once he collects himself. you laugh softly and forgive him, you've gotten used to him asking for your forgiveness rather often. only yours, though.
at some point, you're going to need to tell him that forgiving himself is far more important.
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I literally made a post on Tumblr about this idea but thought I'd actually share it here but decided to make a more special version:
The y/ns one day going into a throw down to see who is the best y/n...the superior y/n...like the embodiment of the song 'the ultimate showdown'...Or, if you want another version I think is also super fun...'the ultimate smash bros' lol...
And can imagine the cookies standing idly by in shock as they see things like streamer cookie throwing a left hook at alien y/n or entity y/n going John Cena on timid y/n...oooor the cookies, when they notice the y/n show down, start trying to stop it, loving all the y/ns and not wanting them to destroy each other lol!
Decided to write this bonus with the version where cookie are trying to stop the fight...just various scenarios that are happening all at once because of the number of y/ns lol:
Entity, in a tree about to jump from it elbow first onto timid y/n: AND THEIR NAME IS ENTITY Y/N COOKIE!
Regular, seeing entity jump right at them: OH DEAR WITCHES-
pure vanilla, quickly running up to push timid y/n out of the way and then catch entity so they don't take fall damage: BOTH OF YOU, STOP! WE LOVE YOU EQUALLY!!!
Meanwhile:
Streamer, holding a modified keyboard to work both as a keyboard and a blunt weapon in their hands: LET'S FUDGING DO THIS!
Alien, with a blunt alien weapon: COME AT ME, YOU COWARD!
Caramel arrow: OK, BREAK IT UP YOU TWO!
Meanwhile:
Timid y/n and shy y/n...really not wanting to fight but know this is a free for all and both immediately think the other is gonna kick their butt: .....
Both immediately start crying.
Cream ferret rushes up, trying to calm them both down: shh shh it's OK you don't have to fight, let's go for hot chocolate instead...doesn't that sound nicer?
They both go off with cream ferret.
Just pure chaos heh...sorry if this idea sounds stupid just with the y/n tag having so many different kinds of y/n cookies...having a creative mind and listening to these songs all combined really makes ya think XD
Let's- Lemme just list how many Y/N cookies I've made just to be sure what I'm getting into=
Ancient Y/N- virtue of patience
Beast Y/N- Shadow of wrath
Child ancient Y/N- Virtue of innocence
Child beast Y/N- Shadow of grief
Male batman Y/N
Entity Y/N
Alien Y/N- (No stories on them yet)
Robot Y/N
Streamer Y/N
Timid Y/N
Shy Y/N
Ghost Y/N
Merchant Y/N
Isekai'd Y/N
Baker Y/N
Tarzan Y/N
Child of White Lily cookie Y/N
Yeah- I'm gonna figure out how to do all of them T T oh boy-
Y/N cookie showdown!
On a random day of a random week on a random month in a random year, the Y/N cookies found themselves in a predicament. They wanted to be the best Y/N cookie. But what happens when everyone wants to be the best? They argue and fight to claim that title. And unfortunately for the cookies, these 17 cookies were no different.
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Ancient Y/N cookie and Beast Y/N cookie are trying to stangle each other
Ancient Y/N: DIE, FOWL BEAST!
Beast Y/N: TASTE MY WRATH, STUPID COPY!!!!
Pure Vanilla cookie and Shadow Milk cookie are tying their hardest to pull the two apart.
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The Children aren't exactly any better, even if they aren't fighting physically since Mystic Flour cookie and White Lily cookie are holding them back.
Ancient child Y/N: Crybaby!
Beast child Y/N: Goody two shoes!
Both stop talking for a moment, before crying to the adults.
Both: They were being mean to me!
Mystic Flour cookie: There there,
White Lily cookie: It's ok little one.
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Male Batman Y/N: *Holding merchant Y/N in a choke hold* Admit your defeat!
Merchant Y/N: *Wheezing* Over my dead body!
Male Batman Y/N: That can be arranged!
Black Raisin cookie: *Trying to push them apart* No! Stop fighting! I love you both too much to lose any of you! Stop!
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Streamer Y/N: *Hitting Alien Y/N with their keyboard* Be gone!
Alien Y/N: *Behind a shield* Like your father?!
Caramel Arrow cookie: No no- no insults! Stop fighting before any of you get hurt!
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Robot Y/N: *Trying to shoot entity Y/N* STOP MOVING SO I CAN ELIMINATE YOU!!!
Entity Y/N: *Moving in all kinds of inhumane ways* MAKE ME, METAL HEAD!
Agent Jjajang cookie: No- don't taunt each other! Just behave for witches sake!!!
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Baker Y/N: *The only sensible one at the moment* Guys- there isn't a best Y/N, stop fighting-
Ghost Y/N and Isekai'd Y/N: SHUT UP!
Isekai'd Y/N: I'm about to exorcise a stupid ghost!
Ghost Y/N: Not if I hit you with another truck first!
Pumpkin pie cookie: No! Stop fighting! You'll end up hurting yourselves! Please stop!
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Tarzan Y/N: *Casually holding child of White Lily cookie (COWL) Y/N by their ankle* Hahahahahaha
COWL Y/N: Put me down you brute! Put me down right now!
Cherry Blossom cookie: Aye! put them down!- put- Hey! Put them down and stop fighting this instant!
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Shy Y/N: *Thinking they're done for*
Timid Y/N: *Thinking it's over for them*
Both begin crying and Cream Ferret cookie rushes to them both.
Cream Ferret cookie: Hey hey, it's ok. You don't have to fight. You're safe. Come on, let's get you some ice cream and candy for the other two crying over there.
Both nod as they follow Cream Ferret cookie.
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avelera · 1 day ago
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I expanded on this a bit on Twitter but I kinda wanted to talk about it here where people actually read my meta lol
I want to clarify that I think (Arcane) Jayce would eventually rise to the occasion. He always does.
I just think that Jayce has the most uniquely vulnerable situation if he theoretically went to Noxus, even when compared to every single other Arcane character. Yes, I'm including Heimerdinger and Cait. And here's why:
We've already seen Jayce get manipulated by not one but two Noxians, Mel and Ambessa. And Mel was nice about it! Jayce does eventually figure out Mel's manipulation of him but that's only after months of soul searching with literally nothing else to do (and then he APOLOGIZES to her, after eventually realizing too that Mel wasn't entirely to blame, just to be clear, but he ended the relationship over it IMO).
But Jayce is a unique example of the one character we've seen fall for Noxian manipulation more than once, with different Noxians. And, I would argue, there's nothing else in his arc to indicate he's gotten smarter about it, even at the end, other than figuring out Mel and only in relation to Hextech.
I don't think he's necessarily any better armed against Noxian manipulation after his arc, or manipulation in general. Another Noxian using slightly different tactics to get what they want from him would probably still work.
Jayce also has a unique combination of:
1) A relatively privileged background that makes him more trusting of others (unlike the Zaunite characters) and just being a nice guy in general, which lends to this.
2) An amount of self-confidence that he doesn't necessarily see manipulation coming because he generally tends to see himself as the primary mover of events in his own life which makes him a prime target for a master manipulator (like Ambessa when she masterfully pushed him into a sense of helplessness and rage that ended in his raid on the Shimmer factory). Not saying Jayce never feels helpless, he just has a background and personality that tends to see himself as able to regain control if he loses it and to see himself as a primary mover of his own destiny even when he's being puppetted
3) but most important: he has something Noxians would want and have wanted and would continue to want since we saw Swain's raven go for the gem in his hammer: Hextech. If Jayce went to Noxus, he'd be a target of EVERYONE THERE because of Hextech, either for weapons or for Hexgates. Or, if not Hextech, then the mind that created Hextech is still a worthy prize for anyone trying to get ahead there.
And funny enough, I think every other character in Arcane has more defenses than Jayce, even Cait, even Heimerdinger.
Heimerdinger may be naive but he's also 300+ years old and he's been around the block. I think Heimer's first response to being a target of manipulation in Noxus would be to get the fuck out of Noxus, I mean I can't imagine a country less suited to his whole deal, but he'd know to get out of there and he'd know to be on guard.
Cait post-S2 would be well equipped to recognize Ambessa's tactics in others, but even pre-S2, she's a detective used to reading people. Her instincts are stunted by the grief over her mother's death but she's clearly putting together that she can't trust Ambessa from the start. Cait despite also having a privileged upbringing like Jayce from the start has more tools at her disposal when it comes to understanding and analyzing people to have at least some prayer in Noxus, unlike Jayce the Engineer.
Then when you get to literally any Zaunite character, I think you get a healthy dose of suspicion towards outsiders to make them better able to defend themselves against Noxian manipulation or use.
Not saying it still couldn't happen, but a Viktor or a Vi would definitely be skeptical from the outset towards anyone trying flattery on them and would be immediately resistant to anyone using them for weapons or as fighters.
Jinx is too chaotic and slippery to be used, I'd argue, but she also in general just doesn't work well with others outside of long, long term relationships of trust (and even then). Really, anyone on the list of Zaunite character (Silco, Sevika, Ekko, etc.) just has that healthy dose of skepticism that I think at least puts them in a good position to be aware that everyone in Noxus is potentially looking for a way to use them.
But not Jayce. Oh, I don't think he's stupid, I definitely do not think he's stupid. But I think he could fall for, say, a two-man con, good cop/bad cop, once more obvious manipulator and a second person pretending to protect him from that person thus winning his trust, even in S2.
Now, I do want to add that one caveat to this, as I said, I think Jayce would rise to the occasion. He'd eventually figure out that he's being used and if it's for Hextech weapons, or weapons of any kind, he'd probably catch on sooner.
I think Jayce would probably, in an action story, turn around and drop-kick anyone trying to use him by countering them with his own flashy weapons and skills before long (say hello to this neat trebuchet he just built out of garbage and say goodnight, motherfucker).
I also think that his general demeanor would lull a manipulator into a false sense of security, until he boldly outplays them with him classic "Moving in very direct straight lines and fuck anyone who gets in the way" manner of dealing with intractable problems.
I actually think a "Jayce in Noxus" arc would be delicious, since we've already seen him played on his home turf, I'd like to see his incremental progress forward in figuring out how to be a more savvy player in the belly of the beast.
Alas, I can't imagine we'll be seeing him in an actual Noxus show but if you also are dying for "Jayce in Noxus" now, I'd highly recommend the "Break, repair" series by Lapsi, where the second installment involves just that.
My first impression of Noxus in Fortiche's style:
Oh, this country would have eaten Jayce Talis alive, huh?
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wren-kitchens · 3 days ago
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i will still come around when the time for sleep is through
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curious as ever, jimmy swims slowly to the surface, careful to avoid being spotted before he can figure out why in the name of void smajor is at the codlands in the middle of the night. is- could he be looking for jimmy? well, obviously he’s here for some reason, and jimmy highly doubts that it's to do a midnight trade deal, but- could the king of rivendell really be looking for him? oddly enough, smajor appears to have dressed hastily; clothes far less formal than jimmy has ever seen them, a shawl draped haphazardly around his shoulders in what seems to have been an afterthought. his gloves, jimmy notes, are the only orderly thing about him.
this has been finished for like a week now but I keep forgetting to post it lol
flower husbands for the soul 👍
a catfish flicks a clump of seagrass into jimmy's face, and he lazily opens an eye as he floats across the bottom of the swamp. the fish has the self awareness to look sheepish as it swims away, and jimmy closes his eyes again. he knows smajor (and several other rulers, but he doesn't care as much about their opinions) would think him even lesser than they already consider him to be if they knew he very literally sleeps with the fish, but he can't find it in himself to care all that much. after all, beds—in jimmy's opinion—are just for setting a respawn point; they’re far too uncomfortable to actually sleep in.
people make such a fuss about beds; all gilded canopies and satin spreads to show off wealth and luxury, when all one really needs is a soft bank of sand and silt. even lizzie has a bed, although she has since told jimmy that it was only for show, admitting that the ocean floor is so much more comfortable, but a grand bed makes an impression. jimmy doesn’t have the resources to waste on a bed he'd never use, and he can’t be bothered to find any, so he never has. which has now led to him getting smacked in the face with seagrass for the second time in five minutes.
"do you mind?" jimmy huffs, opening his eyes again to see the same catfish floating next to him. "i’m trying to- what?"
the catfish flicks the seagrass in his mouth and swims off, and as jimmy spits it out, he notices a foreign shape at the surface of the water. in fact- no, not foreign at all; if those colours are what jimmy think they are, then that's-
curious as ever, jimmy swims slowly to the surface, careful to avoid being spotted before he can figure out why in the name of void smajor is at the codlands in the middle of the night. is- could he be looking for jimmy? well, obviously he’s here for some reason, and jimmy highly doubts that it's to do a midnight trade deal, but- could the king of rivendell really be looking for him? oddly enough, smajor appears to have dressed hastily; clothes far less formal than jimmy has ever seen them, a shawl draped haphazardly around his shoulders in what seems to have been an afterthought. his gloves, jimmy notes, are the only orderly thing about him.
jimmy pops his head above the water. "smajor? you're- what are you doing here?"
smajor turns so fast, jimmy wouldn't be surprised if he strained a muscle in the process. "codfather?" voice almost frantic, he moves over to the water in a very un-smajor-like way. his eyes land on jimmy, and something in his shoulders seems to relax.
"you- are you okay?" jimmy frowns, swimming over to the shore, a little concerned. smajor has a very holier-than-thou attitude when it comes to the swamp, so to see him here with no apparent reason is odd to say the least. not that he’s complaining about seeing him here, just- it's odd.
"i’m- I am perfectly fine." smajor says, entirely unconvincingly. something in jimmy's chest aches as he notices that smajor's hands are shaking. "i'd- I have to ask if you yourself are alright, codfather, seeing as you appear to be sleeping in a river." smajor says, clearly aiming for his usual cold indifference and falling short. it feels- almost inappropriate to witness smajor like this, but at the same time, jimmy wants to help—more than he expected to. 
so jimmy gives what he hopes sounds like an offended scoff and folds his arms, tail keeping him afloat. he sinks a little lower in the water, and hopes that smajor is too distracted by whatever it is he’s dealing with right now to have noticed. "I have tried almost every bed in the world, and none of them have been remotely comfortable."
something shifts in smajor's expression, and he looks almost disappointed, which jimmy does not understand in the slightest. "I cannot imagine the seafloor being more comfortable."
"then you'd be surprised." jimmy says, unfolding his arms and swimming closer to where smajor stands on his dock. "I can’t imagine you ever tried it, anyway." with some effort, he hoists himself up onto the platform, tail vanishing as he does so. 
"no, I have not." smajor says, oddly quiet.
jimmy leans against one of the pillars, facing smajor, who now sits in an oddly formal way, shaking hands clasped in his lap. "you should. at some point anyway- you’re basically immortal, right?"
"I- yes." smajor's face remains unreadable. "not many ways to kill me."
"there you go." jimmy waves a hand in a vague gesture. "what's the point of immortality if you don't try new stuff?"
smajor looks up, and his eyes look- almost clearer as he raises an eyebrow. "but you won't try beds?" there's some of that amused judgement in his voice, and jimmy almost grins.
"I tried them, I just didn’t like them." he corrects. "honestly, they’re just so- constricting. I don’t know why anyone sleeps in them voluntarily; it's like being suffocated."
smajor gives a little scoff, almost inaudible. "i’ve heard that's your opinion on formal clothes too. is that why I don't see you in my meetings anymore?"
jimmy blinks, a little taken aback. that is why he doesn’t like formal clothes, but the only people he complained to about that were lizzie and joel—and they definitely are not friendly enough with smajor to have mentioned it. "I- no, I just- they were frustrating."
"oh?" smajor frowns, and something about the way he does makes jimmy feel like he didn’t do it intentionally. 
"joey, mainly." jimmy admits, and smajor scoffs again.
"hardly surprising." smajor says, a slight softness around his eyes. "i’ve never met a man so capable of being so irritating."
jimmy grins. "is that 'cause he keeps trying to flirt with your brother?"
smajor groans, and jimmy laughs as he pinches the bridge of his nose in exasperation. "no, it's because my brother is being insufferable about joey flirting with them."
"they- its reciprocal?" jimmy gapes. smajor looks up, takes one look at jimmy's expression and covers his mouth, a smile in his eyes. jimmy finds himself warming to it despite himself. if smajor is happier, it's worth a little teasing. "don’t laugh at me- how in the name of void would I know?" 
"I think, codfather, having a pair of functional eyes would suffice." smajor says, something like amusement lacing his tone. his hands have stopped shaking. 
jimmy gives an exasperated huff, glancing back at the water. "the amount of times i've been told that- it's just getting ridiculous now."
"well, if you keep missing things, it's to be expected." jimmy turns to smajor to find his expression reserved once again—something moving behind his eyes.
jimmy looks at him for a moment. "why are you here, smajor?"
apparently unconsciously, smajor tugs at the cuffs of his gloves. "do you.. have you-" he clears his throat, nervous. "what do oceanfolk think about past lives?"
jimmy blinks. "I don't- we don't really have that kind of thing? y’know- we live for thousands of years, me and lizzie are immortal, it's- i’ve never really thought about it."
"I- right. yes- of course, that was- that was a foolish question." smajor says, beginning to stand up as if to leave. something jolts in jimmy's chest. "I should-"
"hey- no, wait." without really thinking, jimmy grabs his hand. smajor practically freezes, seemingly shocked by jimmy's sudden reaction. "what do you mean?"
smajor hesitates before sitting down again, rubbing a gloved thumb against the back of jimmy's hand unconsciously. jimmy finds himself suppressing a smile at it. "in rivendell, past lives are- it's believed that we all have one. sometimes we have dreams of- y’know. who we used to be."
jimmy tilts his head in interest. "how do you know they’re about a past life and not just like- regular dreams?"
"there's a kind of.. familiarity to them." smajor says, voice soft. "almost nostalgic, honesty. it's often as if i’m looking through an old diary i’d forgotten about."
"oh." jimmy feels a little winded. "how do- are they always.. good?"
something shifts in smajor's expression, unreadable. although- something about it suggests that it isn't entirely meant to be unreadable. "no. I- many of the ones i’ve had are.." he glances at jimmy's eyes, something sad flickering across his face for a fraction of a second. "they’re- they aren't always good."
"I think- I think i’ve. had those." jimmy says haltingly, and smajor watches him intently. "but- they've all had people I know? it doesn't- statistically speaking, that's unlikely, right? like- my past life interacted with their past lives?"
"i’d have to argue that it's fate." smajor says, and there's something almost melancholy about the way he says it.
"nothing i’m seeing seems to have anything to do with fate." jimmy huffs. "joel had a dog named geraldine and he was trying to sell everyone dead bushes."
much to jimmy's surprise, smajor sits upright, eyes fixed on his own. "you- do you not see anything else?"
a little startled, jimmy shakes his head. "I don't- i always thought they were just weird dreams, I didn't really pay attention to them much."
there it is again—that upset flickering across smajor's face, vanishing before jimmy can decipher what it means. "that's such a you thing to do." smajor says instead, scoffing a little. oddly enough, it doesn’t sound mocking, rather.. disappointed.
"it- how would I know?" jimmy says suddenly, realising that he does not want to see smajor looking that sadly at him any longer. "th- if i’d seen anything else, I mean."
"I- I would assume you remember." smajor says, apparently taken aback. "if you don't- you said, oceanfolk don’t have past lives?"
"no, I just- how do-" come on words, don’t fail him now. "I assumed they were- your brain can’t create new faces, even when asleep, right? so I just- I assumed that's what it was."
"you- so you may remember something else?" smajor says, a spark of what jimmy can only call hope in his eye.
jimmy shrugs, a little helpless. "I don’t know. I never- I mean, I just thought they were dreams, y’know?" he pulls his knees to his chest, resting his chin on them. it's not exactly the most well-mannered thing he's ever done, but this little meeting is far from formal, so he doesn’t care. "it- I always felt. I don’t know, like there was something missing?"
smajor looks torn between two conflicting feelings—neither of which jimmy can even begin to parse. "missing? how so?"
"just- i’d wake up, and i’d remember bits and pieces in such vivid detail, but.. there always felt like i’d forgotten huge chunks." jimmy says, finding it a little difficult to bring himself to look anywhere other than smajor's face. "I remember small stuff like- like there were no dark oak trees, or the weird monopoly on an enchanting table, or that the place I lived had someone else there- but I can't even remember who?"
smajor blinks back something that looks almost like grief, and jimmy can’t imagine what he could have said to elicit such a response. "I see." his voice is weirdly cold, and jimmy wants to take back whatever it was that made it happen. "the missing chunks.. do you have any idea what they could be?"
jimmy shakes his head, more apologetic than perhaps he should be. "it's just nothing. I don't- is there some reason that is, with your past lives?"
hesitating only for a moment, smajor nods. "it- it typically happens when you recall something or someone.. incredibly important to you." he glances away, and jimmy almost wants to take his hand again in order to keep him from running off. "generally speaking, it takes something related to whatever the memories are to trigger their return."
"is there a way I can do that?" jimmy asks, and he can't quite understand why smajor looks so upset.
"I don’t know." smajor says, shortly. "i’m- my apologies, but I must leave. I made- I shouldn't have come." he starts to stand again, and jimmy stares at him. "i’m sorry I disrupted your sleep, codfather."
"you- do you have to go?" jimmy says, pushing himself to his feet. "I- did I say something?"
smajor gives a ghost of a smile, something so deeply sad shadowing his eyes. "nothing you said. i’m- it's merely late." 
he turns to leave, spreading his wings, and jimmy reaches out on instinct to stop him- barely managing to catch smajor's wrist as he does-
there are butterflies in jimmy's stomach as scott tucks the poppy into his own hair, talking so casually about how they are husbands now- apparently completely oblivious to just how flustered jimmy has become at the concept. he takes jimmy's hand, staying close as they venture further into the cave, and all the while jimmy can think of nothing else but the man beside him. void- the idea of scott as jimmy's husband? gosh. 
scott smiles in that stupidly fond way, and jimmy could just die right here as scott strokes his hand carefully through his hair. in the quiet of the night, with only their soft voices and the crackling of the fire to break the gentle silence, it could truly just be the two of them in the whole world.
the worry in scott's eyes as jimmy desperately tries to assure him (and maybe himself too) makes his heart ache. neither of them want to say it, but both of them are thinking the exact same thing: if jimmy does die one final time, where does he go? and more importantly- will they ever see each other again?
jimmy's last moments are spent staring at scott—watching the dawning horror reflect on his husband's face and realising simultaneously that their worst fears have come to pass. and yet, even as jimmy's vision fades to black, he can’t help but notice just how gorgeous scott's eyes look in the light of the sun peeking through the windows.
gasping for breath he didn't know he'd lost, jimmy struggles to sit upright against the dock—head pounding as if he had fallen backwards. smajor- scott- he is in front of him, eyes wide and panicked as he grasps jimmy's hand, cradling the back of his head.
"aeor- codfather, are you alright?" scott says, and- oh void, it's really him- and he knew-
jimmy pushes himself up, sitting properly as he catches his breath. scott (is that even his name anymore?) watches with apparent fear in some attempt to prevent it from happening again. 
"you- you remembered it all," jimmy breathes, and scott's eyes widen with understanding and something so deep, jimmy isn't sure there's a word for it. "didn't you? you knew who I was- all this time."
scott nods, tears beginning to shine in his eyes. "I- I knew. I am sorry I didn’t tell you, I wasn't sure-"
scott doesn’t have time to finish, because jimmy has pulled him into a hug that feels so incredibly long awaited—especially as scott sinks so readily into his arms. "i’m so sorry." jimmy says into scott's hair. "you waited so long- i’m sorry I took all this time."
"I don’t care." scott whispers, and the softness of his voice is reminiscent of every quiet evening in their cottage, falling asleep in each other's arms in front of the fire and almost forgetting where they were. "you're worth every second. oh, jimmy." 
"I love you." jimmy buries his face in scott's shoulder, pressing a kiss to his neck as he does so. "I- I can’t believe I- oh void. I love you so much- i’m so sorry."
scott is laughing, and he sounds like he might be crying too, and that alone brings tears to jimmy's eyes. "it's okay- you’re here. i’m never letting you go again."
it takes a long moment for either of them to regain enough composure to pull away, to wipe away the tears and do anything other than hold each other close. when they do, scott is smiling and still crying and he’s the most beautiful thing jimmy has ever seen. 
jimmy reaches up to cup his face, and he sinks into him within a second. "you’re so different- you’re so fancy. where's the cottagecore builder I knew?" he gives a teasing smile, blinking back tears. 
"I don't- I don't think i’m the one who changed the most." scott rests his hand against jimmy's, laughing wetly as jimmy scoffs in joking indignation. "love, you’re a fish."
jimmy can’t help but laugh. "am- am I a handsome fish at least?"
there's a fondness in scott's eyes, so great that jimmy thinks he could probably die right here. "the most handsome. oh, darling." he whispers, tears springing from his eyes again. "i’d almost given up. I thought- you must have been someone else."
"i’m so sorry." jimmy says again, voice breaking. "you know- if- if it's any consolation. I think I was falling for you again."
scott laughs, wiping his tears away. "you’re such a sap." he smiles. "you always have been."
"I loved you since the day we met in that cave." jimmy presses his forehead against scott's. "you- I always assumed you knew, but- you meant the world to me. you mean the world to me. you’re my home." he gives a little grin, tearing up again.
scott makes a noise that sounds like a broken gasp. "you- you want me to say it, don’t you?"
"a little." jimmy rubs a thumb across scott's cheek, and he laughs.
"it's home?" scott smiles, and jimmy's mind reels. void, how he’s missed him- without even knowing.
jimmy presses a soft kiss to scott's lips. "home." 
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normal-nightmare · 3 days ago
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It's me again and please keep yapping this is the tasty content I come here for. lol I've been sitting here a while (longer than is polite) trying to form a proper response to my previous ask cause it was literally everything! I wish I could be half as eloquent instead of just yelling XD
like there are so many things that draw me to these two, and ngl it definitely started with the whole pseudo-incest vibe but they really are so complex and you really hit the nail with this:
Just... they're so complicated and it sucks that people don't wanna explore that because of the preconceived notion that they're brothers, nothing more, nothing less. Sure, legally they are, but they don't... act like it? They didn't grow up together, they weren't very close before Jason died, and they only recently started getting properly close. Jason also has his crush thing going on (seriously, how else am I supposed to interpret RHATO v2 annual 1??)
Look I will forever maintain Dick was Jason’s gay awakening and that boy has been in love with Dick since he was what 12? 15? Also the way you described their relationship to each other was so delicious and alterous is such a great term for them.
I feel like jaydick becoming canon one day would be a natural progression of their relationship. Especially since they seem to be getting paired up as a duo more often. Readers love them, comic artists and writers like them too- i feel like jaydick actually happening one day wouldn't be extremely surprising.
THISTHISTHIS!!! I hope this does happen.🙏
Also re: dickbabs and not making certain characters bisexual I feel that on such a spiritual level. Like I’m sorry but both Jason and Dick read as queer to me? Idk how to describe it. Which is why I love the little touch of bi Dick in Gotham Knights.
Also speaking of Gotham Knights, I finally finished it and holy fuck what the fuck? One of my few complaints is that I wish it was longer. I need GK2: electric boogaloo but this time with a Poison Ivy case file because reasons. I adored every interaction Dick and Jason had, from the emails to the flirting in front of everyone’s salad, plus how they were almost always near each other? (also Jason looked so good in that post credit scene in the Batcave I choose to believe every time he wears it, Dick can’t keep his hands to himself 🫣)
ALSO
I genuinely feel like the writers were intending for jaydick to happen in a DLC given how much setup there is.
I would love to hear your thoughts on this? I want to yell about this game so much. I wish I had someone to play co-op with me so I could see some of those Jaydick interactions too 😞
GOD honestly i have a million thoughts on Dick and Jason's relationship in Gotham Knights?? Because what the HELL is going on in that game!!!
It utterly BAFFLES me when other people read their interactions (Belfry, cutscenes, whatever) as brotherly/familial bc like... if you're interacting with your family like that I'm so concerned?? Bc they're gay as hell!! They flirt the ENTIRE GAME. Like... it's ridiculous how in-your-face they are about it. It's not even gay subtext anymore, it's just... text. Saying they're not gay in Gotham Knights is like saying Jayce and Viktor were 'just brothers' in Arcane to me LMFAO.
Like... the rooftop scene for one reads as really BAD flirting on Dicks part. It doesn't feel like he's being deliberately silly to cheer up Jason until he fakes falling over the edge, THEN he's properly silly. The entire scene otherwise, he's just... being really bad at flirting? And it's funnier that both that and then him being silly actually kinda WORKS on Jason. He laughs (laughs!!), relents and let's Dick sit next to him! It's so, so cute!!
And then the little interaction where Dick says that the Belfry needs a cat, and then Jason suddenly flirts with him?? Like the line "Listen, Grayson, if you're scared of some mouse you saw scurrying, I'll keep you safe." Is ABSOLUTELY flirting, and this is only supported by A) the tone Jason has and B) the way Dick stutters and stumbles over his words afterwards. Like, Dick is AUDIBLY flustered and surprised by this. He tries sooo hard to keep it cool but that boys BLUSHING.
And then there's the tension in some scenes?? When they argue in the beginning and when Dick puts a hand on Jason's wrist (after Jason jokes about making Tim a fake ID), and kind of the scene where Jasons mad, and he's sparring with Dick and Dick catches his fist and says "Easy, Tiger." Like.... the tension in these scenes goes crazy?? The physical closeness, the eye contact, the brief silence, calling Jason tiger?? Like I CANNOT be crazy thinking that there's at least a LITTLE sexual tension in these moments. Juuuust a little 🤏
And like! Yeah you're 100% on them being so physically close most of the game. It's hard to find scenes where they AREN'T standing right by each other. And their stories focus a lot on each other!! At least Dicks story focuses a lot on Jason! Like... a LOT, it's 90% Dicks story 😭
And the like,, nicknames. Dick calls Jason things like Big Guy, swole, and Miracules throughout the game, like, consistently. He points out Jason's size and strength a lot?? (His size and strength kink is so blatantly obvious, good lord this man is horny LMAO. I don't blame him though... 👀) and then Jason mainly calls him Grayson, but when he's being vulnerable he calls him Dick? Which is so cute?!
And a cute little detail is how angry Dick gets on Jason's behalf when Talia says they should be grateful she brought Jason back even though she took away his autonomy and used him. Like, Dick is PISSED! Lowkey he's so ready to throw hands right there.
And i think one of my favorite interactions is when Dick chooses to take Jason to a circus that's in town. Like! He's literally asking Jason out on a DATE. And it's the cutest thing ever?! Jason is surprised and it's just... it's so sweet.
And in general they have the sweetest interactions and emails. It's adorable how they kinda talk about Tim like they're proud parents, and it's also cute how they kinda bicker over the perfect sandwiches cause they sound like a married couple loll.
Just!! Auuggghhhh they're so CUTE in Gotham Knights! There's a mountain of setup there for a romantic relationship. It's very in your face, and honestly impossible to ignore if you have ears and eyes. I'm sure there's more i'm missing or just haven't mentioned, but it's so blatant it feels like it couldn't have been on accident.
Just... it's so cute, I'll never get over it 😭
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stupidlittlespirit · 3 days ago
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Can you give me more examples of Alex disliking Ford? I’ve always kinda felt it, but I never really had much of a real grasp on it.
Okay so this is the part where I look crazy because I can't give you specific examples LMAO but I'll try to explain what I mean. It's more in what he doesn't say than what he does.
Alex doesn't ever come right out and state 'I hate Ford', but he implies his distaste for him through his treatment of him. The way he hasn't gone harder/more explicit on drawing lines about Ford's abuse, or talking about how Ford suffered terribly during the time he was alone, for example. The way he blames Ford inherently for a lot of stuff that Ford, while not blameless, isn't fully at fault for. It's little things, and I'll detail them below.
TW below: Abuse, discussions of victimhood and irl consequences.
He extends more sympathy to other characters whereas Ford is sort of an afterthought. I don't actually think Alex has fleshed Ford out very well in his own head. Remember when he said that he didn't even know that Bill was going to be the main villain? They were flying by the seat of their pants for a lot of the series and it's quite clear in some elements. Obviously, the series is wonderful, I love it, it's one of my favourite shows of all time and Alex is a true talent, but it's obvious which characters are more important to him. He favours Bill a lot, too, so when his disliking of Ford/being ambivalent about him meets his enjoyment of Bill, only one of those dogs is coming out of the fight alive and it ain't Ford.
I think Alex is a genuine talent, I admire his work and his writing. He seems lovely. But I do also think he lacks in skill when it comes to complex abuse depictions.
I see a running theme that he isn't very good at portraying it specifically via 'unlikeable' characters. I mentioned on a previous post that he did this with Pacifica until people expressed empathy with her, and then he decided to round her out. He stated that himself during an old interview; I can't source it but I remember it vividly because it flagged red in my head that he couldn't see she was just a product of her environment. She's a twelve year old girl, for god's sake, she isn't 'just a horrible person', it makes a person sound like Bill when they beef with kids like that lol.
Another thing is in TBoB, there's a really horrendous page where Ford is tortured. It is visceral and awful, and tbh I wish I'd have been able to ask Alex what his top 5 horror movies were when I saw his talk because the scene is very reminiscent of a lot of my fav horrors.
But anyway, it is literal torture and it is also communicating about how helpless Ford is. He's a victim and a 'weak one' at that. Nothing he can do will stop Bill's abuse, he's stupid for trying, he's pathetic, he deserves it.
Now, that is a take I see with Ford a lot. He deserves it. He's asking for it. And it's a really upsetting one. It's also a common narrative told by people who blame victims for the abuse they suffered.
Not once have I ever seen Alex defend Ford. Not once have I ever heard him say 'Ford didn't deserve this', 'Ford suffered as much as Stan'. Not once.
Considering that he said he took 'inspiration' from his friend's 'toxic' relationships (I also think this is a strange and slightly perverse thing to do btw), I would have thought he might feel more strongly about pushing away this narrative about victims deserving their treatment.
I, obviously, also don't know for sure that he did take inspo from friends; he could well be describing his own experiences and just not feel comfortable saying so because men do suffer a different kind of stigma around being abused. That's fine, he doesn't have to out himself or anything, that would be horrible. But it's just the way he reacts to fans and speaks about the victim (Ford) that makes me think he's a bit more removed from this specific experience than it being personal.
There are many types of abuse. Ford's experience is familial, relationship-wise (platonic, because nothing about his relationship with Bill is romantic in the most basic sense of the term, if anything you can liken that side of things to sexual abuse) and personal. Ford then abuses himself as a reaction to outside abuse. Not his fault, again, but it does happen and it's a common thing for victims to do. I did.
Ford does nothing but suffer.
I truly don't believe that if you loved and cared for your character, you would be willing to watch your audience tear them apart like that after they had already been through so much and were not actually a villain themselves.
Especially if you had, or knew other people who had, experience with that kind of abuse. He doesn't let it happen to Stan, he came down hard on people when they did it to Dipper, and to Mabel, too.
It would kill me to let my OCs be bastardised like that by an audience and I'd be damned if I did a disservice to victims everywhere over something like this.
I think his lack of care is displayed in his treatment of Ford, as opposed to him outright saying he doesn't like him.
I also understand that this analysis also comes from a deeply personal point of view and my own experience with this topic, too.
This is a TV show, it isn't real and I don't need to take it so seriously, but what I do take seriously is seeing the real world reactions of other people. That does hurt. It hurts to see someone who is (very inelegantly and heavy-handedly, btw) depicted as a victim of abuse be laughed at and made into a joke, or flipped on their head and made to be romanticised with their abuser just to make a ship happen.
Fiction doesn't need to be taken seriously except when the lines begin to blur over into real life. We know people are cruel to irl victims and we can see where these lines blur quite obviously.
I think abuse and uncomfortable topics should be depicted, but I also think that as a creator, if you use them, you have a HUGE responsibility to teach and guide your audience into understanding why these things are bad/what makes them so. You shouldn't make jokes about the topic or encourage other people to go off the rails with it.
You can't control people, of course you can't, but you can hold their hand a bit and show them towards the light. If they choose not to follow it then they're probably not bright enough to pick up what you're putting down and that's on them, but you have to try.
Maybe if I hadn't (and my friends and other victims hadn't) been subjected to exactly the same reaction, we wouldn't feel so strongly about this, but it really does feel like a kick in the teeth to see a large number of people behave so grotesquely about abuse.
And just as an aside: I am a victim, I have been/am an unlikeable one, but it does not mean that I deserved what I got and that goes the same for every other 'unlikeable' victim out there.
*deep breath* but other than that I'm totally normal about Ford and not at all mentally ill :)
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catras-breakup-song · 2 days ago
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it’s already annoying enough that they still, in 2025, 4.5 years after the fifth season ended, run blogs almost solely dedicated to hating on a cartoon since they can’t find a better hobby, but what really bothers me at this point is how they have to make their superiority complex everyone else’s problem and go out of their way to bully & harass stans over their posts under the guise of “debunking arguments” (which, even if that is true, debates aren’t always inherently invited and dragging someone into them by assuming “existence of post = open discussion” when they aren’t interested may violate a boundary), usually indirectly so that we don’t know and won’t respond to it.
glimmadora shippers (who are catradora antis, nothing wrong with just liking the ship itself!) are definitely the most frequently guilty, thinking of 1-2 blog usernames in particular here, and they largely overlap with the first group in your list — many of them tend to also be lumity fans (again, so am i, i have the owl house showrunner’s art of them as my main blog’s icon; that alone is not the issue) and compare it to catradora because if it’s not perfect fluff then it’s apparently not acceptable to portray in (animated) media. it’s rather ironic because they are so loud about being against toxic behavior + obsession with people minding their own business, but have no problem actively engaging with these things online in order to make sure others know they hold the wrong opinion over pixels + lines on a screen.
the ones that have really surprised me though, are hordak & shadow weaver stans. it’s a cheap excuse to accuse them of ableism* & misogyny & lesbophobia (and trust me, i also hate pointing fingers at baseless bigotry when it doesn’t apply tot the situation), yet abusive characters in this show are clearly fine to enjoy just as long as they’re not catra, which therefore implies… exactly those ideas. they hide behind a façade of caring about ableism via entrapta’s writing** and the end scene of 4x01 when catra holds hordak’s crystal over his head to bribe him, but either they’re very biased and cherrypick who deserves protection from discriminatory beliefs based on a subjective “perfect victim” status in the fandom, or they’re simply weaponizing those criticism arguments in order to silence opposing voices among the discourse regarding catra’s redemption arc getting more attention, since she’s a main character, than the cardboard cutout big-bad villain, who wasn’t supposed to have anywhere near as much development or sympathy given from the beginning. i roll my eyes when they complain about how season five catered to her so much, especially instead of hordak, because the show has literally always been primarily about catradora and the best friends squad by extension; hordak was nothing more than a tool for the narrative. that means you got what you came for, so you can either stay mad or leave ─ i highly suggest the latter for everyone else's sake.
i’ve been collecting receipts of the latter group that you can check through all the various reblogs (it’s not a neat consecutive thread unfortunately, sorry) in the notes here, just because it’s difficult for me to believe those takes are actually real if i can’t prove it to even just myself, lol lmao.
another thing i’d like to mention is that i’ve seen antis mention biphobia coming from she-ra stans a few times now, and as a bisexual activist who is unapologetic about calling that crap out without any respect for the perpetrator, the funny thing is… this is pretty much the only fandom where it hasn’t occurred that much in my experience, let alone to such an unbearable level — mind you, i’ve been here since june 2020 (not on this account, but wherever SPOP existed on the internet). it’s always been much more prevalent in arcane spaces, hell even the owl house with three prominent bisexual characters and only one canon lesbian is filled with far too much erasure & policing regarding our identity. also no one ever cares about bringing up bisexuals unless it’s to hate on us somehow, so i always find a sudden uptick in concern from monos that can be essentially read as a “gotcha” or otherwise supporting detail rather than its own thoughtful discussion to be deceitful and i tend to be quite wary of it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
*ableism in this case comes from catra’s heavy BPD-coding, which i can speak on as i also have it — or at least share most of its symptoms consistently, which has been overall agreed upon by my psychiatrist.
**that’s not to say how entrapta being autistic was handled, especially in 5x02, isn’t problematic, especially considering i’m autistic too and that has rightfully made our community uncomfortable, generally speaking. i just don’t trust authentic critique with genuine love for the character or even basic respect for this piece of media as a whole to come from that crowd specifically.
i'm losing my mind how are there STILL ACTIVE CATRA HATE BLOGS it's been FOUR YEARS how are you still this mad about a female abuse victim!!!!!! how do you STILL not get it!!!!!!!!!!
I have been in enough fandoms to understand that some of the people who stick around the longest are those who act the most scarred after watching the media. It's like stockholme syndrome. Or it's like hating the thing is what gives them drive in the world.
I have also been on the other side of this. I remained a Homestuck blog for a whole four years after the ending made me depressed about Terezi Pyrope, even lasting an additional year and a half after the dogshit epilogues released, through to the demise of Hiveswap and Homestuck^2, before I realised enough was enough and let Adventure Time give me sanctuary again.
But Homestuck had its Gamzee fans who hated the comic and fandom, Adventure Time had its Lemongrab fans who hated the show and fandom, and it seems She-ra has its fair share of antis.
The She-ra antis consist of the following groups, from my observation:
Former fans who got obsessed with some other show and have to bash She-ra because it ain't cool anymore. Usually Owl House fans but can be from anywhere. Their hate is universally connected to propping something else up, and is never done in isolation.
Hordak fans who hate Catra and maybe every other character and crew member and the show. There are a lot of the reverse, Catra fans who hate Hordak, which is part of why this group is so persistent, as a "counter" to this Hordak hate. However, the Catra fans who are Hordak antis MOSTLY do not hate the show (they are just... out of touch with it and generally have bad takes). I've seen one or two extreme cases of Catra apologists accusing Adora, Scorpia, and even Entrapta of abuse, but they were completely alone in their feelings. The Hordak fans who hate Catra tend to also hate Glimmer, Mermista, Adora, Bow, and say that the show is ableist or whatever, but they do not actually harbor much love for Entrapta. Her victimisation is an excuse for their behaviour and they have no understanding of her chaotic character. Do not interact.
Glimmadora fans (the ones who purely seem to exist to make 'Spop Is Abusive' posts). Why the fuck Glimmadora fans hate the show so much, I do not understand. But these are probably the most In-Your-Face of these three groups. While the Hordak fans mentioned above have a lot of similarity to Homestuck Gamzee fans or Adventure Time Lemongrab fans in the weird way they'll hate on the show for doing their blorbo wrong, Glimmadora fans don't have that evidence because they don't really care about Glimmer or Adora. They have absolutely nothing to say about the show, other than that it is Bad. My theory on these Glimmadora fans is that they really liked the Glimmer and Adora ship on a superficial level, and then the show decided to have its Deeper Themes and give Catra and Adora a messy, complicated relationship. There was a lot happening after season 3 where people went "CATRADORA IS REALLY ABUSIVE AND CATRA IS HORRIBLE AND YOU SHOULDNT SHIP HER WITH ANYONE". This period was SO fucking harmful to the fandom that it never recovered, so much work was lost and deleted from AO3. People would say "Glimmadora is a much better ship anyway". But then when season 4 rolled around and, uhh, Glimmer was acting like a little shit all season (for good reason but she really fucked things up with Adora), and Glimmadora crumbled into ash? Well the Glimmadora truthists felt like the show was working against them and that Season 5 was a grand conspiracy to make the Abusive ship Catradora canon!!! The funniest part of this is I sympathise a lot with these feelings. I used to be a Glimmadora truther myself when I watched the show in fall 2021. I was like, "wow, look how nice this ship is. And they go with catradora in the end?? Fucking HOW???". But then seasons 4 and 5 happened and.... yeah, I was disappointed with how Glimmer and Adora's friendship ended up, but I was ENAMORED by the messiness of Catra's character and how raw her and Adora felt about each other even in spite of all the bullshit. I never made excuses about the show being abuse apologising. I analysed it purely in how believable the relationships were and what the intentions of the characters are.
Of these groups, the ones responsible for the most actual SPOP Anti blogs are undoubtedly the Glimmadoras. The only time I've seen something similar, so many antis appearing, was because of Steven Universe ship wars. You have NO IDEA how petty people feel about Lapidot, Amedot, all the dots, all the amethysts. A crew member was chased off the internet over it, or left the internet over the show's own decisions, depending on whether you believe the """screenshots""" that were taken of Zuke's ""private blog""".
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hers-underwraps · 1 day ago
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WAKE UP EVERYONE IT'S OCTOREVIEW TIME!!
HAZARDOUS HABITATS MY BELOVED
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(I know this post is LONG overdue (it's been sitting in my drafts since November) but I was taking a break sorry)
I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT THIS EPISODE.
HAZARDOUS HABITATS MORE LIKE A HAZARD FOR MY HEART
This episode is absolutely one of my favourite Above and Beyond episode because it had so much to offer. Aside for the fact that it was absolutely adorable there were so many authentic character moments for both Dashi and Shelligton that I was genuinely going feral.
ALSO for anyone that ships Dashton this is THEIR episode. This combo is so iconic; they're such cuties and can talk about their passions effortlessly with each other. Genuinely love them so much.
Right from the get-go the episode is set up perfectly, they're both going out to get some photos for shellington's creature collection in extreme habitats. Dashi loves photography and extreme environments, and Shellington loves niche creatures and his collection; it's a win-win mission for both of them.
“Don’t worry shellington I can get you your photos in any conditions, extreme wind, extreme rain, extreme snow-“
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They're so cute and passionate, Shellington is like "I really want these photos but they're lowkey impossible to get" and Dashi's like "heh buddy don't sweat it. I've got you bro"
“No worries, Tweak upgraded my wandercam to handle the heat, the cold, the wet pretty much anything so I say let’s go!”
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LIKE THEY'RE JUST SO AHHHHHHH
Massive shoutout to Shellington to having so many loser moments in this episode as well.
E.g. He getting scared by the thorny devil (like bro I thought you were an expert on these things) and Dashi picking up the lid after he spills the water everywhere
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PLUS THE ULTIMATE LOSER MOVE
Him being like "Erm be careful, it's really slippery here 🤓☝️" and his goofy ass just instantly fell into a puddle
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He's honestly a little pathetic throughout the whole episode and Dashi has to pick him up (they are literally girl boss and malewife)
Then oml there was this when they were trying to get more photos but they had to climb because of the rocks
“You mean up there?!?" *gulp*
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(He's like damn girl are you being fr right now?!?)
“Ah, sure. we’ll use our climbing claws! Easy peasy”
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LIKE SHE SAYS THAT AND WINKS AT HIM LIKE?!?! (OML I'M NOT NORMAL ABOUT THIS)
“Ah, right easy peasy…”
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HE KNOWS HE AIN'T BUILT FOR THIS. Plus to top it all off when he's climbing up the rocks he's like
“Easy peasy, is making me queasy".
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Genuinely them at the tepui's was genuinely so assuming. They're being stupid, falling in puddles, messing with each other, watching this poor pebble toad on the camera and being like
"Oooh toad" 😯
"AHH tarantula" 😧
"Omg she's falling! Bro does she need help?" 😨
"Nah she's alright, they do that sometimes" 😐
*toad starts drowning * "how about now?" 😰
"oh yeah NOW she's trouble, she can't swim lol" 😬
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It was such a we share a single brain cell moment but hey they got their photo. Then at that end of all of it when the toad is telling them what a good climber she is and shellington says "heh, at least that makes one of us". He's so comedic throughout the whole episode.
Honestly, both of them are so casual with each other. They can make jokes and puns which we don't usually get a lot from these two. Dashi's lingo isn't as serious and she's openly going on rants about topics throughout the episode (which again is great because we love dorky Dashi moments). Shellington is a lot more willing with trying uncomfortable things (Especially after watching the Kilimanjaro climb, shellington was just outright refusing to do anything he wasn't familiar with for half of the episode).
All of this shows how comfortable they are with each other, they are more authentic and vulnerable which is a major kudos to the quality of their relationship.
THEN there was the Sistema Huautla
OMG just look at how happy she is! Like yes! Deepest cave in the western hemisphere! Let’s jump right in!
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Also a quick side note, why did they make the Sistema Huautla look so shallow. I get it's would be hard to do but it's 1560 metres deep? THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING!!?!?! ORIGINALLY, I thought Shellington was being a bit of wuss but oml you would NEVER catch me in here.
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ANYWAY, back to them.
Despite the Sistema Huautla being that deep Dashi's like "yeah we'll just climb down there to get our photos" (Although I guess she's really just going back to her roots)
“We still have our climbing claws so easy peasy!”
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(She's so nonchalant about all of these extremes. It's funny. Shellington's like "hey these are some of the most dangerous habitats in the world" and she's deadass like "easy peasy")
“Where have I heard that before”
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He's so the voice of reason like "girl bffr this AIN'T easy peasy"
She's honestly just thriving, landing like a pro and smiling the whole time, completely unfazed; it's just so Dashi.
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Then the ledge breaks and shellington nearly falls to his death...
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Nice.... (help he's so damsel in distress coded)
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Dashi's like ah well shit I can't get you out of this one by myself...
The change up in their attitude is so crazy they go from happy go lucky yay we’re in a cave let’s beg the blind scorpion for photos to damn these extreme habitats are actually dangerous. We might die.
They call the crew and Ryla's on their way to help them out but obviously, she's not going to get their before that tiny ledge breaks away.
Then there's this scene where they need to weigh up saving the photos or shellington. Shellington's all for keeping the photos (even at the expense of himself) but Dashi pulls through with a classic Dashi moment (I love it when Dashi has moments the relate well back to the OG series (well the few dashi centred episodes anyway). It was very manta ray episode core)
“Saving you is more important then saving the photos”
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She ejects those photos they worked so hard to get (much to shellington's despair) and gets him down to the bottom safely. Gotta love her "sacrifice everything to save the ones I care about" mentality Then Ryla gets there and everything is aye-okay.
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Tweak was so silly and casual when these two finally rescued.
“Hi guys, guess you two will do anything to get a photo of a critter”
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She summed up their dynamic so well it's great.
It's genuinely so funny how chill the girls are throughout these extreme situations. It's so in character too. I can imagine if it was a different combination of characters they would be freaked. But these three? Ryla, Dashi, Tweak? Yeah, they're not that phased at all.
Then when they were wrapping everything up and showing all of their work to the others (because thank got the camera and survived falling down the 1560m cave) they were so adorable.
Shellington was so proud of all the photos they managed to get in 1 day (like yes guys we slayed so hard) then when he realised he actually got the photo of the scorpion he shoved everyone out of the way
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Just look at how happy he is!
Another side note: This episode was so pretty! I thoroughly enjoyed this scene in the ray, the aesthetic was immaculate. All the places they visited were so pretty and cool too!
Finally as a little cherry on top, Dashi's on an extreme adventure high after all this excitement and she starts going on a rant (gosh I love it when she rants, dorky Dashi for the win). They can both be such dorks when they are on a roll which is something I adore about them.
“Then why stop now? We can climb up Mount Everest, the highest altitude mountain in the world and find some Himalayan jumping spiders !”
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He's just horrified. They nearly died and now she wants to go and climb Mount Everest. She's just a lil crazy and obsessive, just a lil...
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“Oh thanks, but I’ve had enough extreme adventure for one day. The next thing I’m climbing into is my bunk”
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Just look at those glares. It's so funny bye.
I love how they are both so obsessive over their passion it makes them such a perfect pair. Shellington is willing to risk dying for his research and Dashi's ready to put herself in extremely life-threatening situations and just do it all again for her photos.
Tweak said it herself. They really are willing to do anything for their passion.
And for each other.
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(They are so stupidly in love. Lord help me.)
Anyways, this episode is in my top 5 for Above and Beyond. 10/10 thoroughly enjoyed it. Nearly died because of how good it was.
Thats all I have to say for now.
Byeeeee
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angorwhosebabyisthis · 11 months ago
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i think it is probably a sign of the process of healing from the trauma of having every word out of my mouth ripped apart, mocked, and treated as an unforgivable offense warranting Extreme Rage and Vitriol, and having it explained to me in excruciating and hateful detail why my thought processes and basic turns of phrase and the things i thought were worth expressing were stupid worthless gibberish, unbearable to listen to, and the root of everything wrong with society, by redditor-ass faux-intellectuals in my life growing up for being awkwardly phrased/not concise enough/mildly whimsical, that some days i'm proud of my meta and some days i can barely stand to look at it. but god that does not make the second one more fun.
#whosebaby talks#personal stuff#abuse cw#ableism cw#gaslighting cw#it says something that i considered just leaving this in my drafts solely for being an awkwardly phrased; probably hard-to-read run-on#when that is literally what the post is about lol#and i will count it as a victory that i caught myself went fuck that and posted it anyway#it is not morally wrong to speak awkwardly#doing my best to be clear about important distinctions and concepts in the ideas i am expressing is not synonymous with#'sound polished and perfect; sound like a professional lecturer reading off a prepared speech'#'never write a sentence someone may have to reread a couple times; never use a word too many times; never use a cliche turn of phrase'#and it's also not synonymous with 'never express a feeling or use a metaphor; or talk about an idea of any complexity'#'or say things that are Obvious(tm)'#i believe i am good at expressing ideas and the ideas i feel are worth expressing matter.#believing that; so i can do my best to work to live up to it; is an active choice.#i have chosen to believe based on the evidence available to me that i make a hell of a lot more sense than it feels like#on days when the people who have claimed i'm unintelligible in bad faith; because i talk in a way that's easy to *make* unintelligible#if you know where to strike to throw me off and keep me from pulling an idea together#are loud in my ear#but like. it's okay. It is Okay. to express yourself and fucking be awkward about it.#it's okay to be Emotional in a way that's not the Current Acceptable Style. it's okay to use lots of heavy emphasis#it's okay to repeat yourself. it's okay to sound Pretentious(tm) and it's okay to sound 'childish' and it's okay to run on sentences#and a thousand other things. the things you have to say do not matter less for it and you have no less right to attempt it#you're not stupid or unbearable; it's not a waste of people's time to listen or make the effort to understand you#and it's not entitled of you to expect them to damn well try. it is not on you to do all the labor of chewing their food up for them#so they don't have to meet you halfway. you shouldn't have to put up with people being lazy dismissive assholes bc you're at a disadvantage#which like. i say this for myself; but if you're reading these tags and you needed to hear someone say any of it; it's for you too#fuck em. you're allowed to talk.
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zombiecowboy65 · 2 days ago
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ok honestly it took me a hot min to get that line too—but in the beginning of the book after Jean says Jeremy’s name and Jeremy’s like losing his mind lowkey about the accent, he asks Jean to tell him if he ever makes Jean feel unsafe. So that’s what that was.
Unless u meant why he felt unsafe. In which case I assumed it was because it was so ingrained in him not to talk about the truth of anything that he feared being put in danger by saying it?
Also, I fear I’ve made enough posts about this lol. But the main points were kinda like a.) I like that Jeremy fucks up bc a lot of the fandom makes him out to be this savior when really he’s 22 and has no idea what he’s doing b.) I’m like 97% sure the reason he’s so hellbent on helping Jean is because he couldn’t help someone in his past (the missing brother maybe?) and c.) this was literally only book 1 lol. Andrew drugs Neil in the first book of the first trilogy. Idk how we’re all maiming Jeremy for asking a few repetitive questions.
I kinda just wanna put this whole Jeremy slander to bed . Ok so he messed up. Ok so he meant well. it’s over and done with and we can’t change it. I just wanna know what the hell happened and how Jean’s gonna find out about it 🗣️ I wanna see them go from friends to soulmates 🗣️🗣️
honestly i think it's a little redundant to write any think pieces on what jean's endgame ship will be. it's going to be jerejean whether you like it or not. that's the story nora is writing. she said it herself when she announced it. this story is a love story but it's also a story about jean and his journey to recovery (and just because jeremy is the future love interest that doesn't diminish the importance kevin has on jean's life either. jean's feelings for kevin are very much still there but so is the betrayal and hurt of him leaving him in the nest. it's a very convoluted relationship of which we still don't know much about. only what jean has told us, so far. as the man who believes his feelings have not been reciprocated to the same degree, mind you. like, we still have two more books to go, one with more scenes with kevin in them where we will learn more.).
as for jeremy...lmao. have we not been talking about how little we know of him since the book dropped? and now all of a sudden people are claiming to know everything about him and decided he's no good? based on one book? and for some reason because he isn't handling his new traumatised teammate perfectly like a professional with a psychology degree he's somehow not right for jean? since when has anyone in this universe been perfect? or dealt with trauma professionally and perfectly?
do i think it's right that jeremy crossed some boundaries to get some answers about jean's past? no. do i think it's right that he overshared jean's truths to his friends without his permission? fuck no. but we're dealing with a whole different group of people here, most of which have not been traumatised to the level the foxes had been. who are not used to dealing with people like jean. jeremy has his own issues yet to be revealed, he clearly has problems standing up to his family (as seen with his sister), though he has no issue captaining his team (as seen with lucas) and it's suspect that he also doesn't think himself to be as great of a person as everyone else does given the sad look on his face when jean tells him he could never be anyone's villain. so idk why anyone thinks they know anything about him when he's so cagey in his own pov. and nowhere in that, may i add, has he ever implied he wants to "fix" jean. he wants to help him. he wants to give him reasons to enjoy his life now that he can i.e making him take that silly ceramics class for Fun. and given jean has had his whole life centred around exy (which he doesn't even enjoy anymore) i think it's actually very smart and helpful to get him doing things that "don't matter" so that he can learn from it and learn that he can actually live outside exy. that he can make mistakes and be imperfect at something and that's Okay.
at this moment in time in canon, kevin doesn't have that kind of mindset and it's probably because he was allowed the freedom to already pursue an interest outside of exy - his love of history. like are we missing the detail that he begged tetsuji to let him take that as his major and he actually allowed it? kevin, though still has a long way to go, still has something outside of exy he can hold onto and switch off from. jean doesn't have that and jeremy just so happens to come along and give him the option and for some reason that seems to get ignored. i think it's actually one of the most important things about their relationship so far. jeremy still makes all the accommodations jean needs - setting him up with class partners, taking him for a run when he needs to get out of his head, buying a bed to sleep in the room with him. but he also pushes back and insists jean try something to break him out of his unhealthy relationship with exy.
also, hello, jean literally admits to himself it's a Lie when he tells jeremy he doesn't want him to look if it's too much for him to deal with when jean is attacked by grayson. and jeremy refuses to look away. something everyone around jean has done since he was born, probably.
"Jeremy’s response was low but unhesitating: “I will not look away.” “I do not want you to look.” It frightened him how much it sounded like a lie, but he didn’t have time to dwell on it..."
jean appreciates when jeremy is so very obviously attracted to jean and openly staring, but doesn't press and removes himself from the situation if he thinks he may come on too strong.
"Threat assessment, he told himself, and it was almost the truth. He needed to see the easy way Jeremy ceded Jean’s space to him. Jean couldn’t remember the last time someone allowed him any boundaries, and the feeling was as novel as it was addicting."
hello???? that is literally jean himself telling us jeremy just allowed him a boundary. how does that get looked over?
also he's content enough with jeremy in his space that he feels safe enough to almost drift off
"In the quiet he could hear Jeremy breathing, and it was almost as comforting as the heat of another body this close to his. It thawed the parts of him the sun hadn’t reached despite soaking up its glare all day. Jean closed his eyes and let his thoughts drift far away. [...] This was the first time his room truly felt safe and right, and he was content to hold onto it for as long as he could."
mind you right after this jeremy presses that jean should have his own space and jean insists jeremy share with him and get his own bed. and let's not forget the obvious flirting that has jeremy immediately backtracking and telling jean to let him know if he ever makes him uncomfortable.
ALSO THIS
“Stop asking,” Jean said. “You only think you want these answers.”
jean may find it annoying and unfavourable that jeremy keeps pressing but idk i infer this to be more of jean not knowing how to handle someone actually giving a fuck about what was done to him when he was so used to everyone turning a blind eye.
finally (bc this is getting long) jeremy pushes himself into jean's space when he hugs him, and jean doesn't hug him back but he doesn't push him away either and jeremy is the one who has to wait for jean to let go of his shirt so he can move away.
"Jeremy heard the dismissal in it, but he waited for Jean to let go of his shirt before leaving the room."
i have made a post about this before but jean craves attention and affection, he wants to be loved and to be frank he fucking deserves it more than anyone else does.
i'll finish the post with one last line from jeremy's pov...
"...it wasn't his place to interfere with Jean's trauma or his healing."
jeremy isn't perfect, he's not meant to be.
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introspectivememories · 4 months ago
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was it casual when i sat in your lap in public? was it casual when i said "recently my heart is crying because you're leaving"? was it casual when we decided how your last name would fit with mine? ("yuki tsunoda-gasly" / "no tsunoda, only gasly" / "yuki gasly?") was it casual when we sang adele's "someone like you" together at your going away party? was it casual when i knew it was you just by touching your ass? was it casual when i knew it was you by smell alone? was it casual when "will you miss me?" / "for 2-3 minutes maybe" / "i'll take that. even if it's just 2-3 minutes, i'll take that"? was it casual when that bus was completely empty and we still sat right next to each other, all the way in the back? was it casual when i picked you up multiple times so you could dunk a basketball? was it casual when i begged to come over to your house multiple time and then you finally let me and we cooked fried rice together? was it casual when we played christmas twister together and i said "your big eggplant is touching my ass"? was it casual when we were pressed up against each other on a scooter going two miles per hour? was it casual when-
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triaelf9 · 4 months ago
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"how do you enjoy *insert fandom here* I hear they're the worst"
Find the ppl who enjoy the thing you like the way you do. Ignore, mute or block the ppl who don't.
Ta-Da~
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arcanegifs · 2 months ago
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ARCANE LEAGUE OF LEGENDS: 2x01 - “Heavy is the Crown” ↳ "I know you doubt your merit of your birthright, Caitlyn. There's wisdom in that. But remember: You're a Kiramman."
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antiadvil · 22 days ago
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hold on when did the subreddit add this rule lmao
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pinkcheesecake7 · 26 days ago
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I can’t take criticism on Mel seriously because most of it is done by jayviks who say she’s pretty and call it a day then act like they love her😭. Like sorry, I’m not taking you seriously when your account is filled with only jayvik and you only talk about Mel to objectify her and seem like you don’t hate “the female character that gets in the way” that’s simply not enough. A lot of these hardcore “Mel is a manipulator” people are very obviously biased lmfao. “Jayce dumped her” except that never happened? They talked and then he left and fucking died lol, one important thing to remember is that these are CHARACTERS and there is writing behind them. What I’m saying is that they were handled poorly by the writers and they never actually “broke up” or should I say he never “dumped her🤓” they just.. had a thoughtful conversation and it was never brought up again. I feel like yall only say he “dumped her” so it fits the shitty narrative that Jayce dumped Mel for Viktor which is NOT true and literally never will be. You guys literally call her an “independent black woman who doesn’t need a man” except in different wording to make her seem unlovable. Yes, she doesn’t need a man but she WANTS a man. Stop acting like you actually want her to be independent, you just want to get her out of the way but also still seem like you’re an “”ally””.
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