#what do you mean they both died in terrible and sad and painful ways...... WHAT DO YOU MEAN

[julietasgf]

why couldnt this be sejarcus💔💔

I WISHHHHH 😭😭😭😭 I'm 100% delusional, therefore I believe in my heart that actually during the bombs in the arena they ran away to somewhere else and are living peacefully in a little cottage with a life they made for themselves (cries in a corner

[neil-gaiman]

this may come off very blunt and out of the blue, but i need an answer and i can't ask anyone i know, so i apologise profusely if you find this derogatory in any way possible.

i'm 14 and i found out what death means when i was 3 and living with my grandparents. i figured that when someone dies, you can't see them anymore. you can't talk to them, you can't laugh with them. they aren't there anymore. and i cried. i cried so hard i vomited.

ever since i've struggled to think about death and what lies beyond. i'm scared. of growing up, of dying, of seeing people around me die. and i don't know what to do.

i know this will likely get lost among the hundreds of thousands of asks in you inbox, but if by fate you read this, please tell me

how does it feel when someone you know dies?

hank you, and i apologise once again if this is disrespectful. i know it's a pretty deranged thing to ask, especially to a well-known writer who has gone through life. i'm sorry if this brings up sad memories, but i need an answer.

all the best to you and everyone around you, mr neil.

Mostly it feels terrible. It even feels terrible when it’s someone who has been in a lot of pain for a long time or has not really been there for a long time and you know that Death has in some ways been a blessing: suddenly you are mourning the whole person.

It doesn’t get easier as you age. It gets stranger. The point where you realise how many people you used to know and like who aren’t there any longer, and you cannot talk to them or see them or laugh with them is painful in a way that I had never expected. The first time that someone you had a romantic relationship with dies and you realise that there had been moments both of you shared and now you are the sole custodian of those moments and one day you will be gone and they will be lost forever is peculiarly strange and hard.

But there is a comfort. And it’s the realisation that you aren’t alone in any of this. Everybody who lives will die. And we are here and doing things because other people died to make room for us, and we in our turn will die to make room for our children and their children and on and on.

[shorlinesorrows]

okay, a couple things on alien stage/ivantill that I think some folks maybe need to consider and internalize.

Till does not "need" to return Ivan's feelings in the slightest if he doesn't feel that way. It's heart wrenching to see Ivan love him and have those feelings unreturned, but please remember that no one is required to return romantic feelings for someone else. You can't make yourself love someone, and you shouldn't. Especially out of guilt or obligation. That's Unhealthy 101, and would only set a relationship up for failure. (I do think Till cared about Ivan, and that he's going to have a Guilt Complex based on the fact that he didn't fully notice Ivan's feelings/care toward him until the guy died, but I've seen a couple of people tear into Till for not noticing/reciprocating Ivan's feelings??? Don't do that??? their situation is shitty, the fact that they didn't get to talk is shitty, but please don't blame Till for things he Can't Control.)

The kiss was not consensual. It wasn't meant to be portrayed as such. It wasn't even really romantic, it was a desperate, selfish act that Ivan used to get Till's attention (in more ways than one) and to give himself some sense of closure before he died. It was him saying everything that he felt at once, with no chance for Till to reciprocate or deny the affection. In a perfect world, they could have talked instead of this, maybe kissed knowing both wanted it, or given Till a chance to refuse. But they're both in the middle of an essential death tournament and one of them is going to be murdered sometime in the next few minutes. Neither of them really wants to live, but Ivan feels he has unfinished business before his sacrifice, so he finishes it. Their situation sucks. That doesn't mean the kiss was consensual. (especially considering the theory/implication that Till was/is being sexually assaulted by aliens, I wouldn't be surprised if this affects him badly in the future, for multiple reasons. Everyone should always get the chance to say "no" and have that fully respected. This also extends to the fact that Ivan died for Till without giving him a chance to stop it, which is probably going to mess with Till's head a lot. Then again, Ivan likely didn't think it would affect Till much because as far as he/we know, the feelings aren't reciprocated in this moment in canon, or are extremely repressed. Ivan might believe that Till simply hates him, or the kiss/subsequent "choking" may have been a way of trying to make Till hate him so that his death wouldn't hurt as much. Of course that thinking is flawed, because it would hurt Till no matter what, but still, it makes me sad)

Ivan... is kinda messed up. I adore him, but we've got to acknowledge that he has little to no emotional and relationship maturity due to the fact that he was quite literally raised as a pet and learned at a young age to do whatever his masters said to keep himself safe and pain-free. His fascination with Till appears to largely stem from Till's sense of rebellion. Ivan's examples of relationship dynamics and what constitutes as "love" is dangerously unbalanced, and he does not know how to build a healthy relationship. (Neither of them do.) This is also built onto the fact that the person he became dependent on only paid attention to him when they were fighting or Ivan was annoying him. Ivan cares about Till desperately, but he is also dangerously reliant on him to the point of self-detriment. Again, in an ideal world, they would be able to get out of this situation and gradually make a healthy relationship/friendship (depending on Till's feelings) over time while starting to undo the dangerous relationship patterns that they fell into when they didn't have any way to know better. But they're in a terrible situation, and Ivan really just doesn't get the chance to grow as a person and realize that his sense of possessiveness and reliance on Till's attention isn't healthy.

Basically, their situation makes me want to sob and its heart wrenching. Their circumstances have set them up for failure. Both of them are in the midst of attempting to survive an abusive situation and massive amounts of dehumanization. I beg, please try not to sanitize their complicated relationship or blame either of them for the pain the other is going through. I've seen some of that going around, and it's making me sad :(

[another-goblin]

How Aventurine would process their relationship. Just some fun options to explore. I do ship them, but it will work with them being just friends. (I wrote "just friends" and realized that it would probably be the first time for both of them to have an actual friend, so there is no "just" here.)

1. I can see him possessing enough emotional intelligence to realize what's going on and allow himself to accept Ratio's care and reciprocate his feelings. It's quite a nice and comforting option to explore. It can happen immediately after 2.1 or slowly, with them continuing to work together or hanging out from time to time. It's nice to see that like 95% of all the post-2.1 arts of them are examples of this (it doesn't mean that I don't love the remaining 5% btw).

He might also see it as a giant gamble. ("For the first time in my adult life I allow myself to be so emotionally vulnerable, opening myself to get really hurt, but the risk is worth it.")

2. He said something about only seeing friends as tools. I think he often uses his charm and wits to win people over, to make them act in his interests, to make them think that they actually like him. As a kind of subconscious self-defense mechanism, he would convince himself that Ratio only acts this way according to his own cunning manipulations and should be discarded after he'd outlived his usefulness. (cue angst)

3. Psychological problems. There is a whole sad collection to choose from, all deep-seated and subconcious. Mistaking Ratio's care for pity and getting offended by it. Feeling like he's not worthy of love. "I suffered alone my whole life, where have you been all this time, now it's too late, I don't need you anymore". And countless others. There's no way he's ever going to therapy, so they'll have to sort it out by themselves.

4. The most delicious option (and by that I mean SUFFERING *looks at two previous options* that is, MORE SUFFERING). A big part of his survivor's guilt is the supersticious idea that he owes his luck to his family's death. The only people he ever cared about and who ever cared about him died because of it. Being close to somebody means danger to them.

He knows that Ratio wouldn't accept his superstition based concerns. So the only way to save him is to hurt him emotionally to drive him away. 

But. What if Aventurine overcomes it and discards all these supersticious concerns (as he should). They get closer. And then Ratio does get hurt. It's serious, like, he's in the hospital, he lost an arm, something like that.

Imagine Aventurine's panic: "I brought it on him, I couldn't protect him, the only way to save him from worse is to leave him forever, immediately." And Ratio, recovering from a devastating injury, the first time in his life when he needs (and expects) support - he's abandoned.

It would probably crush his underlying philosophy of doing big good things for humanity (the way he cured that terrible disease, resolved the universal energy crisis, and is currently spreading education because he thinks that humanity is worthy of it). I mean, it's easy to care about humanity from afar, detached from it. It's much harder when your first attempt at a personal relationship ends in devatating pain.

[cultpastorkevin]

Kevin Day & Grief:

how can you grieve the loss of an abuser?

aight let’s just get right into yet another psycho-analysis of Kevin Day and his messed up life; I’ll be using quotes from the EC

“Kevin does not react well to Riko's death at all, and this is a problem for a while considering what Riko's done to the Foxes. But Kevin & Riko have a long and complicated history.”

It is a very heavy and sharp type of grief to carry, when the person you mourn is someone who did terrible things to you and others. It’s not easy. It makes you feel guilty for missing them, makes you full of regret and “what ifs”. Grief is not rational, it’s something that tries to drown and take everything it can with it. Kevin is aware of what Riko was like, was well versed in the things he did and said. But he knew Riko before it all, he knew Riko when they could barely put their own shoes on. He saw Riko’s changes firsthand. He’s grieving everything that Tetsuji stole from the both of them. He remembers Riko in ways no one else ever will. The burden of seeing someone you love turn into the very thing you’re afraid of, is a heavy one to bear. It is even more heavy to know that everything that was good about them, dies with you.

Anger is always quick to rear its ugly head after the initial shock and the tears wear off, and it’s an emotionally bloody affair. Anger caused by sadness is one of the most gut wrenching kinds of anger, because there’s really nothing you can do about it but let it pass. You’re stuck feeling it, you have no choice. So yeah, Kevin was definitely angry. Angry at what Riko did to him, angry at the fact he’s outliving him, angry that he’s gone and angry because fuck, he shouldn’t be feeling this way, it’s not fair to everyone he’s harmed. For the first time in his life, he might’ve even hated Exy. All it has done is take from him the people that he loves, and playing is an eternal and constant reminder that he has succeeded Kayleigh and Riko. Picking up that racquet reminds him of his hand, and in turn, of Riko, who even at his worst was still loved by Kevin. And at the lowest points of his grief, seated in a bathtub and drunk off his ass, sorrow sometimes made Kevin wish it had been him instead.

“Wymack has to send the rest of the team back to South Carolina with Abby. Kevin is too numb to be moved yet.”

Kevin was so devastated he could not be moved; whether this is meant literally or in a “he didn’t have the energy to leave the house” kinda way, it’s still sad. Being so crippled by an emotion as heavy as grief that you cannot leave the home is hard. It’s painful. You’re dissociated and everything is a blur. You don’t register time passing. Eating, drinking, doing basic things all go out the window. And we all know what Kevin is like. He’s a routine oriented, night practice, calorie counting health nut who lives and breathes exy. He was so distressed that this man did not move and that means most likely, he did not fucking practice either. Kevin’s life ground to a halt for a second time because of Riko.

“It's a problem for a while because the Foxes' knee-jerk reaction to his devastated reaction is ugly. It'll take time for them to try and understand where he's coming from. Even Aaron has an awful opinion on the matter since he knows Riko was behind Drake. Renee attempts to play peacekeeper, but Wymack is the one who has to break his rule to stay out of their personal lives so he can try and fix things. He, Abby, and Betsy bring the Foxes to Abby's place two & three at a time to let them react and tirade in private. It's not enough, but it's a start.”

Kevin is not allowed to grieve without being guilted or punished for it in some way. He has never known a grief experience where he was completely supported during it. When his mother died, he was stuck with Tetsuji and Riko. He never learned how to grieve properly or healthily, and being attacked by the foxes for even feeling something didn’t fucking help. Wymack is the only (and probably first) person in his life who stayed by his side for this. Wymack went to the funeral, he stayed until Kevin could handle going back home. Wymack saw Kevin shatter and knew that he needed time to try to glue himself back together before the team inevitably caused him to crack again.

Wymack, Abby and Bee having to step in is all kinds of upsetting. Imagine having to basically set up impromptu vent sessions for your entire team because they cannot keep their personal feelings to themselves and can’t let a teammate grieve in peace. Granted the foxes aren’t exactly pinnacles of emotional regulation or maturity, but the least they could’ve done was leave Kevin alone (and let Neil and Andrew handle him)

“By the time they meet up again in the fall, the Foxes have attempted to forgive him his issues, because they understand from a logical standpoint that it's conditioned devotion.”

The foxes have every right to not grieve Riko, they have every right to hate him. They didn’t have the right to take it out on Kevin and isolate him even further from the group. It is a jarring feeling to be looked down on for mourning a loss. He did not need to be forgiven for his mourning. He did not need to apologize for missing Riko. His grief wasn’t something to be loathed. At the end of the day, Riko and Kevin were everything and nothing to each other. They operated on a delicate line of balance that shouldn’t have been able to be created. Their push and pull dictated every breath both of them took. Yeah, it was conditioned devotion in the end. But it didn’t start that way.

“Kevin Day goes on to be hailed the best player in the sport, the striker all future generations are compared to. The Jackie Robinson, the Wayne Gretsky, the bend it like Beckham. When the ERC constructs a Hall of Fame, Kevin Day is the first player to be honored.”

When Kevin received this honor, for a split second, he wished Riko was alive to share it. They started this dream together, after all. Only one of them being alive at the end is perhaps the biggest anguish of all.

[verdemoun]

sad macsummers hours where one of them gets sick and has to stay in hospital but will like recover becuz im watching my neighbour totoro where the mum is in hospital and idk it made me sad

I've been toying with the idea of the gang having some lingering complications from how they died so this is perfect.

Lenny suffers a spontaneous pneumothorax that is further complicated by post-surgical infection. Not only is Lenny being in hospital an ordeal on Sean in itself, but due to chest tubes, oxygen and other supportive medication Lenny can't talk to him.

This is a problem because 1. Sean is a nervous yapper and is slowly going insane not being able to have Lenny respond 2. Sean just doesn't understand the doctors. The staff are obviously geniuses and Lenny is getting the best care but they cannot explain what they are doing in a way Sean understands and Lenny can't talk to translate for him.

Sean feels as helpless as he would be in a different country to Lenny. He doesn't know what's happening, he doesn't know how to help, all he knows is that Lenny was meant to be going home after 6 days, and they were both smiling and laughing, and then Lenny was sick and struggling to breathe again and throwing up and feverish and sicker than he was when he first went in.

He does not leave Lenny's bedside, and the first thing Lenny says when he has the tubes removed for a second time and can talk again is 'I love you but you need a shower'.

Sean also holds Lenny's hand so tightly he almost breaks it.

Lenny tries his hardest to pretend everything is okay for Sean's sake because Sean is ruined seeing Lenny get sick, being afraid he's going to lose him because for Sean it's the first time he's gone through the grief of seeing Lenny so close to death, but eventually Lenny has to break too.

Sean, after weeks of feeling helpless, at least knows how to comfort his husband while Lenny goes through the terror of it sinking in that life is as fragile as it was in canon era.

--

Plus some canon era for a different flavor

Sean isn't okay when he is brought back to Horseshoe Overlook. Lenny helps him off Boaz and immediately knows it's not going to be bouncing back to normal Sean, despite the grin Sean has. He's running on the relief of being rescued and the adrenaline of being held upside down helpless during a shootout.

His arms are too thin. His skin is unnaturally warm to the touch. It takes every puppy-eyed boyfriend stare just to get Sean to sit down long enough to process the number of injuries. To notice the missing tooth and immediately force himself to stop staring at it. The healing black eye.

Second the adrenaline wears off, the pain sets in. The fever climbs. As much as horseback would be faster Lenny insists on the mercy of taking the wagon, with Sean laying in the back instead of trying to sit upright.

None of them are potentially fatal injuries. Sean is going to be okay, Lenny knows that. Sean knows that. But it's more than the gang can handle right now. Lenny is relieved to know Sean will be in the safety of a doctor's office.

Except Sean loathes doctors. And it doesn't help that the doctor in Valentine just seems like a shifty, nervous, feller. The number one thing Sean needs is rest and sleep, and Lenny knows Sean struggles enough sleeping without being in the creepy attic clinic of a doctor's office.

When he's asleep, Lenny lets it sink in how terrible Sean looks. If it wasn't for how thin he is, and how obvious the rise and fall of his chest is in his sleep, Sean would look like a corpse. He doesn't want waking up alone to be the final stress Sean can't cope with.

So begins weeks of battling Sean on Sean's behalf. Sean wants to be fine, he wants to be back with the gang and he does not want to be laying in bed all day being told to stay still so he can recover when the process seems heinously slow regardless.

That doesn't mean Sean has much fight. He puts so much energy into pretending to be fine, and arguing he's ready to go home to the gang and back to robbing, he sleeps 18 hours a day. Or sometimes he wakes up and admits his entire body hurts, and he's too nauseous to eat, and just looks out the dirty little window miserable.

Lenny stays as often as he can. Constantly, after catching Sean having snuck out and staggered to the bar before passing out on a stool. They play cards on goods days, Lenny reads to him on bad. The gang move on to Clemen's Point, but Lenny stays behind. Sean isn't ready.

Sean regains his strength on cute little dates walking around Valentine, getting excited over candy bars at the grocery store and beef stew at the saloon that they both think is better than Pearson's cooking. Sean's burned feet result in a bone infection, with the pain in his ankle lasting months. He uses a cane on bad days, and then realizes he quite likes using it as a weapon even on his good days.

By the time Sean is well enough to head back to camp, he actually dreads the lifestyle. He's gotten used to a physical bed, and the sheer concept of privacy. He likes having Lenny to himself too much - fake coughs and jokes he has an infection and needs to stay a few more nights. They both miss the gang too much to leave, but the thought crosses their minds.

Then - they get to Clemen's Point and there's no one there. No note. Just a quickly dug grave with no name. They realize they're on their own. They're alone, except for each other, no way to find the gang on their own. They're free. They're nobodies enough to slip through Tall Trees. They go back out West. They live happily ever after.

[alchemist-shizun]

MYATB ep 11 commentary

LETS GOOOOOO, live reaction because i was at work for 6 hours right when the episode released!! enjoy me going insane

Xiaobao my son he's all grown up and trying to go about this the smart way, trying to convince Su Yin with logical reasons, he's amazing. Though Su Yin not wanting to listen to him breaks my heart, I MEAN THE WAY HE LOOKED AT HIM I THOUGHT HE WOULD COMPLY :(

i dont know what it is about them telling the horses to go but it's so fucking funny each time I hear it.

WhATS THIS RANDOM MURDER AOOO these strangers are bloodthirsty

the flying was incredibly off but it's fine we love this terrible green screen it makes it better <3

shaoyu appearing there menacingly, thank you

wdym he must get the crimson dahlia before he dies, DO U WANT TO KILL HIM AFTER AR EU NOT EVEN GONNA MAKE THE EFFORT well you know what su yin, well played, slay, I'd also be that lazy

"do you believe everything people say?" THANK YOU SIMING MY ONLY MAN EVER.

oh my god que siming stayed too much with jinbao now he's starting to lose braincells again

OOO SU YIN GAVE HIM THE COLD SHOULDER??

HUAIEN!!!!!

HUAIEN WHAT THE FUCK. NOW YOURE BOTH POISONED.

"Can you save him?" "of course I can" QUE SIMING THE ONLY MAN EVER, ONCE MORE.

It's killing me how Huai'en is incredibly elated that Xiaobao is worried about him and is not in the slightest caring about the fact that he's poisoned

omfg don't tell me the side couple gets together behind the scenes fr I will SCREAM.

Why can't gay people be normal it's always "I love u so much I want to lock you up and never make you leave me ever" or "let me marry your bestie/servant or I will literally destroy you" wtf

"I think you need medical attention" no way que siming just told him he needs to be hospitalized /j su yin please just rest who cares about killing anyone

HAHHAHAHA ZHAOCAI AND XIAOBAO BEING SO SHOOK ABOUT JINBAO'S CONFESSION I love them. dumbasses.

your honor i love him ( #me)

zhaocai is just completely thunderstruck about jinbao's coming out

zhaocai is the token straight in this entire cast, he is revolted and disgusted by gay people and will become homophobic at the first next sight of que siming and I would understand

NOT THE TRANSITION FROM CUTE SCENE TO AGONY.

please stop this madness stop his pain I am going to CRY STOPPPPP

THEY ARE SO BEAUTIFUL THOUGH. I LOVE ANGSTY SCENES LIKE THIS MAN

theyre both gorgeous and make me feel sad

"If he comes back, what will you do with him" I'm going to kiss him AND U CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BOY

SU YIN JUST SAY YOU HAVE INTERNALIZED HOMOPHOBIA AND GO please

when you ask su yin any relationship advice:

i hope that was not su yin nearly crying because I cannot do this

THE SHADOWS ARE BACK

why do those look nearly like su yins robes, huai'en do u have smth to tell us..

xiaoyu singlehandedly saves the plot

I love xiaoyu because when the guy drops all the lore shes like UNFORTUNATELY I COULDNT CARE LESS

UNFORTUNATELY, HUAI'EN COULDNT CARE LESS EITHER GET THEMMM

me, seeing a strange move: what was that :0 also me seeing a weird fx: ... and what was that-

omfg not shaoyu. shaoyu is gonna get himself fuckin killed

OMFG ENOUGH TWISTS WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING

what an icon li gongxiang

OH SU YIN AND QUE SIMING ARE HERE??

su yin oh my god. oh my god stop playing the jealous bf please I'm begging u he has two hands

WHY THE FUCK WOULD SHE MARRY XIAOBAO ARE U INSANE. -100 AURA POINTS FOR YOU. WHAT EWWW

SROP STOP STOP MY BOY IS CRYING ON THE GROUND IN FRONT OF EVERYONE LET ME GO CUDDLE HIM PLEASE. PLEASE. WHY MUST U BE THIS CRUEEEEELLLL

"the more I want you the faster I lose you" RIP HUAI'EN YOU WOULDVE DONE NUMBERS ON TUMBLR.

well. that was it. wow what an episode. i thought we weren't going to suffer like tormented ants tonight and here I stand corrected.. i really thought su yin would cave to xiaobao's feelings and turn over a new leaf with huai'en but I guess I was wrong :( I WANT THOSE THREE TO BE HAPPY U DONT GET IT. THEIR DYNAMIC WOULD BE SO TASTY, as I'm sure others have realized

the little twist was nice, i was very sure that Li guy was cooked and instead no. Siming was still a chaos queen, zhaocai a mood, jinbao our beloved idiot and xiaobao victim of many torturous aches, I hope the shadows are okay and me? i just want to throw myself in the river if I cannot enter the screen and hug huai'en immediately. Thank you, see u tomorrow for another one pf these.

[bojackandherb]

Hard take but I think it’s better that Bojack did NOT die in The View from Halfway Down.

Him dying would go against the whole theme of having to live with your mistakes. Also it would’ve just been too depressing, especially for people who relate to Bojack’s struggles. What would him dying accomplish? What message would that send across? “Sad horse guy tries and fails to become a better person and to get better while struggling with mental illness, trauma, and addictions, then he finally starts making real progress and just dies.” That’s just depressing. And I know the show Bojack Horseman is kinda depressing, but there’s always an undercurrent of hope. Bojack dying would destroy that hope. Because yeah, Bojack did a lot of terrible things, but he always has the potential and the desire to get better. And maybe you hate him, that’s totally fair. Maybe you think he crossed the point of no return long ago. But the show says no, he actually can get better despite all the terrible things he’s done. And no, it doesn’t undo any of the terrible things he’s done or the pain he’s caused, but it does means he can at least stop hurting people so much, and maybe even help some people. And we do see him helping people and being a lot nicer in season 6, even though he still has a lot of flaws and ends up backsliding. He always has the potential to get better again, unless he dies.

What do you want Bojack to die for? His mistakes? The people he’s hurt? Because him dying wouldn’t undo any of the terrible things he’s done, and I don’t really think it would the people he’s hurt much peace either. In fact, considering a lot of the people he’s hurt have complicated feelings about him, I think him dying would actually give them less peace. Especially if they knew he died by suicide. Because while he’s alive they can cut him out of their lives, maybe tell themselves they hate him and that he’s a terrible person, and just be done with it. But if he dies, then there’s always these kind of thoughts like “is it still okay for me to still hate him? I may have hated him but I never wanted this. Was I too hard on him? Was there something I could’ve done better? Was I in the wrong for cutting him out? …why did it all have to go wrong?”

And yeah, it is possible that some people would get peace from his death. But probably not most of them. Especially not Hollyhock, who already knew about all the mental health struggles he had dealt with and already had a penchant for blaming herself.

And what of the people still actively in his life at that point? Todd, Princess Carolyn, Mr. Peanutbutter, and Diane. His death would’ve done nothing but hurt them, especially Diane. She was affected badly enough when she thought he might be dead but it turned out he actually wasn’t, imagine how badly she would’ve been affected if he’d stayed dead. I can’t think of any way his death wouldn’t helped anything or anyone.

In conclusion, Bojack staying alive in TVFHD was for the best, and his dying would’ve been bad for both the characters and the overall narrative of the show.

[im14andivebeen14foramonth]

NO BC IVE BEEN THINKING SBOUT THIS SONCE STARTING THE BOOK AND IM GONNA HAVE A STROKE.

This book, just Alaska reminds me of a somewhat older ponyboy

In episode 6, Alaska Young disappeared into the night, crying as she drove away. She had just made out with Miles, and so — even with a hangover — Miles practically bounces awake, eager for the “to be continued.” (Umm, Miles, you still technically have a girlfriend, remember?)

But the Eagle is at their door, and instructs them to go to the auditorium. The Colonel (like in the book) hypothesizes that Dr. Hyde has passed away. But when they arrive at the auditorium, hungover and confused, Miles’ instincts kick in. He immediately recognizes that Alaska isn’t there, and some part of him knows. It alarms him so much that he even shouts at the Eagle in a very much not-Miles-like fashion.

That’s when the Eagle reveals the terrible news: Alaska died in a car crash last night after having a breakdown and driving high.

It’s kinda stupid ig but what do you think the gang would react, with them being older too, so everyone’s aged up about 2-3 years.

ooo i remember i started this book but never made it far, maybe ill go back and read it some time!

this does seem like a very possible thing for pony post-novel. he had been through so much trauma both mentally and physically, and there's no way that it wouldn't have messed him up a little bit, and seeing as he already has problems with addiction, i think him breaking down and trying to drive away while high is totally something that could happen

Darry

oh god, the sound of darry's body hitting the floor when he hears the news is deafening

he thought pony was finally starting to get better. he thought that maybe, enough time had passed, and pony's life was starting to look up again

he goes ballistic. furniture is being thrown across the room, glass is being shattered, and he just can't stop screaming

he asks himself over and over again how he didn't notice sooner. the bags under pony's eyes, the way pony's smile only ever stuck around for a second or two at a time, the way his body had been getting smaller and his once rampant imagination had seemed so dull lately

there's not a day that goes by that darry doesn't blame himself for what happened to pony that night

Soda

the sound that left soda's mouth didn't even sound like one he was capable of making

at first its just a back and forth of wide-mouthed silence and loud groans of pain, until eventually, he starts crying louder and harder than he ever has before

for days after, everyone can see the bruises all over his body from when he got down on his knees and began smacking his own head, torso, any inch of his body he could reach

he screams just like darry does, but rather than rage, his screams are filled with gut-wrenching sadness (and in the moments when they screamed at the same time, the mix of anger and despair sounded so similar that it was hard to tell whos voice was whos, their pain forming an ear ringing harmony)

soda was just beginning to picture his life on his own; now an adult, and with his youngest brother being so close to adulthood, he looked forward to maybe having his own money, space, relationships. now, the thought of leaving the rooms that his brother once occupied feels like a knife to his heart

Two-Bit

two-bit always had a bad habit of laughing no matter how serious the situation was. he found a joke in everything, and could always find a way to laugh

when he hears the news, the laughter just sort of rips out of him. he can't make it stop, his mind in too much shock. eventually, the sound stops sounding like laughter, and turns into a guttural choking noise. he can't get enough air in his lungs, can't get past the idea that ponyboy, the kid he saw as a little brother for as long as he can remember, is gone

for weeks after that, two-bit simply can't find the means to laugh at anything

all he can do is drown himself in drinks

and sometimes, late at night, he'll go into his sister's bedroom (and god, she's beginning to look so old now) and just watch her. and he wonders, now that it seems she's becoming all grown up, will she begin to nurse bottles of beers in the same fashion he had his entire life? will his addictive ways rub off on her? will he one day hear the news that his little sister suffered a fate like pony had?

he decides to keep a closer eye on her from then on

Steve

why didn't he let pony hang out with him and soda more often?

he knows the answer; it's because he thought pony was a little kid, even when pony had gotten to be as tall as him, had started showing signs of a beard, had been getting ready to start college

he was still just a little kid. that's all steve can think about

and what he wouldn't give to hold that little kid one more time; to rustle his hair, to fight a rumble with him, to bicker over the stupid little things

steve's knuckles are bloodied and bruised by the time the news has really set in

he sits in his home, surrounded by holes punched in walls and shattered furniture, thinking about how much that little kid really meant to him

for weeks to come, steve is, for once in his life, quiet. he can't muster up the energy for sarcasm or quips; not when there's no (not so) little kid around to banter back with him

oh boy this was a long one oops

[cherubchoirs]

Hi your au slays very hard and is awesome!!! 💖

My favorite among the sib’s is Raphael…… just trying so hard to keep everything together and acting as a mediator between fallen Gabe and half-dead Michael.

I’d like to know if Azrael and Jophiel exist in your universe and if they do, what they would be like?

wauuugh thank you!!! raph is honestly so sweet, i love his role in the group and tbh reconciliation likely wouldn't be possible without him there to carry it through. not only is he like. the SINGULAR guy that knows how to properly communicate and isn't afraid to express his feelings which he facilitates incredibly well in others, but he's also just their little baby brother who they will always feel bad for stressing out lol at the end of the day, he's kind of the ultimate reminder to them that they are a family and there is still love despite the separate pains they've gone through as well as what's made them drift apart so much.

azrael and jophiel would both be pretty interesting in this world imo azrael is particularly neat to consider, and i like the idea that they are a very...elusive presence in heaven. they still exist, somewhere, and are occasionally seen, but they often vanish out of the sight of others. it's always been their way to be removed from much of heaven's activity, but now with their role and insight particularly important, they seem to have found infinite seclusion. they are the angel of death, of course, but now death has become complicated - humanity is gone, life on earth perished, yet people are still dying in hell. and prime souls have been born. azrael must at least know of it, yet they refuse to show their face. gabriel sees them, very briefly, standing in some corner of the council's hall when he finishes his massacre. they know. they see. they witness these souls and gabriel wonders if they will approach him only for a moment - but he knows it's not their way. he's not even sure they have anything to do with the death of angels (or possibly of god, for that matter), but they come regardless. currently, the whereabouts of azrael are actually EXTREMELY important to michael, as he figures they are the one angel in heaven that might offer explanation for his wretched state, but he can't find them either. he calls out to them endlessly, but they refuse to heed his summons. so much so....he's beginning to believe azrael finds something about him noxious.

jophiel is fascinating as well, given her closeness with metatron and michael - i very much like her being the sister of metatron, and suffering a terrible grief after his loss. because metatron was god's shadow, his voice, always stationed just behind his throne, he was lost when god died and tore down much of heaven. she searched for him, but found nothing like she always knew she would with their severing so immediate and brutal. that sadness has dimmed the shining halls of heaven, as jophiel's presence is what grants beauty to the spheres. michael did what he could to give her solace, but he knows his words are hollow since nothing can fill the loss of an angelic sibling. jophiel had never been alone, but now she no longer shares a mind with metatron and so heaven's gold has dulled and its sapphire has darkened. currently, i believe her to be very close with raphael, as he tends the gardens and she finds comfort in what he makes - they are often seen together, raphael working to cheer her and occasionally able to light up heaven with brighter sunbeams when he succeeds. plus she gives him someone to talk to as well, given his own losses of uriel and michael, though they may not be as direct. it helps her feel less alone and like the presence of the angel of beauty still holds some meaning though, as she in turn can spread joy at least through brightening raphael's flowers.

[jullinh4x]

The terrifying brutality of The Cursed Robot deaths

TW: Explicit violence, Graphic details

It's a bit strange to see a content creator criticizing their own work, but, you'll understand me, today, I want to talk about the terrifying brutality of the deaths in my Creepypasta, but anyway, let's go

To begin with, let's talk about Mega Man's death, which for many is the most brutal of all, but I dare say that I don't consider it the most brutal, but I'll talk about that later

For those who have seen the story, Mega Man was tricked by Sgt.Night and consequently died, but in a VERY brutal way, and the same went for Namagem...

Mega Man had both of his arms and jaw ripped off by an axe, while he was still alive and conscious, and certainly screaming and in agony, however, all of this only gets worse when a witness saw it...

The witness was Namagem, he tried to run, but he stood there in shock, having seen such brutality, he just stood there in shock, but clearly I want to scream and run away, but, he was in shock... So, Sgt.Night took the opportunity to strangle him to death...

Both deaths are really brutal, having your limbs ripped off by an object originally made for cutting down trees is truly terrible, especially knowing how painful it must be

But on the other hand, being strangled by something stronger than you is also horrible, and everything only gets worse, because you FEEL your life slipping away, little by little...

Now, let's move on to Ice Man's death, which for many is the saddest of all, why? I will tell you

Ice Man saw his friends and several innocent people dying in front of him... And everything only gets worse when he saw Cursed Mega Man, Ice Man begged for his life while crying, however, Cursed Mega Man deceived him by hugging him and saying that he would never hurt him...

However, as you may already know, Ice Man has a serious problem with trusting others too much, not understanding double meanings and interpreting certain things in an exaggerated way

Because of this, Ice Man ended up being tricked and consequently, he was impaled and killed by Cursed Mega Man...

It's really a very sad concept, being killed by someone you trusted and who you always believed in is really tragic, but nothing compares to what's going to happen now...

Now yes, the death that I consider the most brutal of them all, Proto Man's death

Proto Man was walking with Rull, Bess and Miss Brittany Night, until they had the misfortune of coming face to face with Cursed Mega Man

The four already knew what to do and went to fight him, until Proto Man ended up taking a blow that made his only defensive object fly out of his hand, the Proto Shield

As Proto Man was left vulnerable, he couldn't do anything else... So that's when he ended up meeting his brutal fate...

Cursed Mega Man jumped at him and used his claws to rip him in half, then Cursed Mega Man ripped off Proto Man's arm...

This concept is completely horrifying, having your limbs, head ripped off and split in half in such a brutal and hideous way is truly terrifying

I could talk about the other characters deaths, but they are all a bit lazy, as they have the same concept (except for the death of Splash Woman, Air Man and Wood Man) and I must confess that I would like to change that

But anyway, that was my self-criticism, I hope you liked it and I confess that I really want to change some things in my Creppypasta, then, bye bye!

[angesaurus]

Thinking of my own birth experiences a lot this morning! Mine couldn’t be so different.

Kid 1 was a totally unplanned c section. Water broke 2 weeks early, contractions started, started bleeding, ran to the hospital. Immediately was told he was breech (what a little turd 😂). My labor was progressing FAST. I was 5cm when we got to the hospital! They said c section! I said okay and they were going to have me wait a couple hours. But my labor (unmedicated!!!!!!) started going so fast, I told the nurse I had the feeling that I needed to push. She checked me and her eyes got super wide and she was like well shit 😂😂😂😂 so they rushed me back and he was born and it was crazy! I had to be put under after he came out and while they were doing the rest of the stuff because I started feeling crazy intense pressure and panicking! I had eaten before my water broke and they think that made the spinal kind of start to wear off? And I could hear like chainsaws???? 😂 it was wild. Dan thought I died when I fell asleep because I was mumbling and then just went silent 🤦🏻‍♀️ Gavin was literally folded in half when he came out. His toes were by his ears for the first few days unless we had him swaddled lol he’s obviously fine now but they think that caused his torticollis!!!!

Kid 2 I went for a VBAC and got it! My “plan” was to try to go without an epidural for as long as possible because I was told it would better my chances for the VBAC and reduce risk of c section. I ended up changing my mind at about 7cm because the labor pains went down to my thighs! It was absolutely horrifying 😂 I’m so glad I went for the epidural it was amazing 😂 I pushed her out in 30 minutes. I DID have a scheduled c section on the calendar for my due date if she didn’t come on her own. The doctor did not want to induce me at all, said it would bring my risk for uterine rupture higher. I was fine with this. My water broke 2 weeks early in true *my kid* fashion. I had a second degree tear and it was terrible!!!!!!!! Because of the epidural I wasn’t really aware of it and so I think if I had realized that could happen I wouldn’t have pushed so hard. I was DETERMINED to only push for no more than like 40 minutes so I went hard 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

If I ever had a 3rd kid, I don’t know what I would do. My c section recovery was way easier!!!!! But the VBAC was so healing? I wasn’t sad about my c section until I came home and people on the internet told me it was “bad” and I should be ashamed for not “experiencing” birth. It was terrible. I cried for days and I ended up in therapy. Having a supportive obgyn and NP to talk to helped when I got pregnant again. And knowing a planned c section could be on the calendar and knowing I had an end date helped too. I think part of my anxiety stemmed from having no idea when I would go into labor and knowing my due date was the last possible day I would be pregnant helped. I was actually starting to look forward to the c section because it seemed nice to have the day planned and make plans for kid 1 and tell work my last day etc. I mean that didn’t happen 😂 why would it my kids are absolute clowns and both came 2 weeks early 😂😂

It took a good 2 years for me to come to terms with my c section and realize it was a special birth too!!!! I have such good memories from it. And my cooka was so nice and intact ✌🏼 😂 it anyone who knows Gavin knows this was so on brand for him - to just come super fast and change the plans whenever he felt like it 😂 it’s his way or the highway. Whereas Cecilia is way more “yeah mom I trust you” 😂😂😂😂 I feel so lucky to experience birth on two ends of the spectrum!!!!

[princesshillaryellaworld25]

Sick Boyfriend sees his true past with the necklace (My AU headcanon)

Sick Boyfriend was sitting on his bed still thinking about last June when his necklace gave him powers.

Sick BF: (mind) I'm still confused, My necklace gave me powers, for what? I know it revived Drugfriend from death but I'm still curious or maybe.....

(Sick Boyfriend takes off the necklace and looks at it)

Sick BF: Or maybe.....There's something about me that I don't know or nobody in my family never told me about.

The necklace suddenly glows

Sick BF: WHAT THE?!

The heart gem glows and it spreads a big flash.

Sick Boyfriend then woke up in a white void.

Sick BF: Huh? W-Where am I? What is this place?

Sick Boyfriend walked around to look for a way out until he saw two people over there.

Sick BF: Woah who are they? *looks a little closer*

Purity Sick BF: I'm really sorry, I failed as the future ruler of heaven and now everyone is sad about my death.

???: It's okay Child, I know you can't come back to revive in heaven but I can send half of your soul to be reincarnated.

Purity Sick BF: Why? I committed so many sins and I fell in love with a demon, even though I'm not suppose to.....

???: But you have a pure heart and you showed kindness to others, I believe half of your soul deserves a second chance, I might not be able to find your other half of your soul but I can reincarnate your other half.

Purity Sick BF: Okay, Please do as you must, Lady Angela.

???: Okay, let us begin.

Sick BF: (mind) Woah, Was that Purity Me and Lady Angela? The one from my dreams? What is she doing?

Lady Angela turned half of Purity Sick Boyfriend's soul into two reborn babies. They showen to be two baby girls with a heart marks on their neck.

Sick BF: Wait, Is the one on the right me and the one on the left is my twin sister?

Then Lady Angela sends the babies to earth to be reborn.

Lady Angela: Dear blessed angels, I've send you to earth to be birth by your mother Aria Sickest.

Sick BF: Aria? She means my mom?

Then the white void transitioned to the hospital.

Sick BF:(mind) I'm at the hospital! This is where me and my twin sister was born-

Past Mrs. Sickest: AHHHHHHHH IT HURTS!

Doctor Ryan: Just one more push ma'am! We're almost done!

Past Mrs. Sickest: The pain! I can't take it much longer!

Past Mr. Sickest: We're almost done honey, just one more push!

Past Mrs. Sickest: *grunts, pushes harder*

(Pop)

Baby 1: *cries*

Nurse Willow: One came out, it's a girl!

Doctor Ryan: One more! Push!

Past Mrs. Sickest: *pushes harder and screams*

*pop*

Nurse Willow: Another one, but they're not waking up.

Past Mrs. Sickest: W-Wha?! You mean....my baby is dead?!

Nurse Willow: I'm not sure, I'm trying to feel a pulse but I can't feel their heartbeat....

Past Mr. Sickest: No....

Sick BF: (gasps) *mind* I nearly died at birth?!

Doctor Ryan: I'm terribly sorry, Sir and Ma'am-

Baby 2: (cries)

Nurse Willow: *gasps* Doc! The baby suddenly woke up!

Doctor Ryan: Woah! It's a miracle, but how?

Nurse Willow: Idk.

Past Mr. Sickest: *phew* That was close

Past Mrs. Sickest: Oh my baby! *holds the two twins*

Sick BF: (sighs) That's a relief! I survived!

Past Mr. Sickest: Look at our twins, I'm sure Sick Miku and Soda C. will love their new siblings

Past Mrs. Sickest: Yeah, Oh I know, I'll name the one on the left Rachel and the one on the right Stephanie!

Past Mr. Sickest: Those are beautiful names

Doctor Ryan: uhhhh there's something we have to tell you, the right baby has uh.....both male and female gentitals and reproductive organs, so they're both

Past Mr. Sickest: O-Oh😳

Past Mrs. Sickest: Oh my, so it's also a boy?

Doctor Ryan: Yep.

Past Mr. Sickest: Yeah, it doesn't matter, we still love them the way they are😊

Past Mrs. Sickest: Yeah 😊 and we can't rename them cause it's Parodies town law saying you can't rename them.

Past Mr. Sickest: And plus, Stephanie can be a unisex name, I'm kindly grateful to have a both gender son

Past Mrs. Sickest: Yeah

Sick BF: (mind) Ohhhhh so that's why I was named Stephanie, it can be a unisex name. But that still doesn't explain how I got powers.

A light suddenly shows what's inside the room, it shows what reveals Mrs. Sickest and Mr. Sickest's original forms. It showed his mother was a royal seraphim while his dad was an angelic demon.

Sick BF: (mind) WHAT?! My mom is a seraphim and my dad is an angelic demon?! So that means my whole family is-

Suddenly everything went white, Sick Boyfriend then woke up.

Sick BF: Woah! That just happened! Hmm.....Should I ask my parents? Is this necklace a sign of my powers? I have to find out but soon

[mouseratz]

SH2 Maria ......:(

she's conscious and feeling, but she's not alive- she's here, she's real, but she's not human. she's never known who she really was, and for all intents and purposes, she was created solely to torture James-

Silent Hill isn't his personal hell. It's Maria.

Not because she's a bad person, although she can be a little mean, constantly insulting his masculinity (but he wanted that, too. he felt Mary deserved to be angry. When she was sad and ready to die, it made him feel so guilty for being ready for her to die, too. why did she hurt so badly? what did she do to deserve this? he killed her. he deserves so much worse. she wasn't here anymore to punish him, defend herself, take a shot back- the dialogue was simply ended at her death. a death he took with her partial permission, but death regardless.) .....but because Maria will never allow the kind of suffering James wants. James feels he deserves to suffer. But no matter what you do, it's Maria who's going to, whether she simply dies, or she becomes ill like Mary was. Her torture will be his torture. She can't even have her pain for herself.....

She's a real girl. But never real enough. She'll never be Mary, and they'll both always know this, even if she dies in the exact same clothes and hospital bed. She's been made to be rejected, she's been made to suffer and die. Whatever made her there in Silent Hill has resigned her to a crueler fate than anyone else, in a way, because that's her entire life and purpose.

She couldn't just be an apparition, or the torture wouldn't work- she HAD to think and feel to properly bait James, but in this way, she's a person with no life, no agency, and doomed by fate.

James wanted another chance, desperately. To try again, because living without her was so terrible.....and silent hill made maria *for* him. as the punishment he desired. (As SH2 is about all of the character's desiring punishment more than anything else.......it draws in people overwhelmed by guilt and gives them what they really want.) that's why it's "born from a wish". silent Hill does grant wishes- just wishes for one's own suffering, punishment for your crime, regardless of how others feel about it. (James is morally blurry. Angela is arguably in the moral right. Eddie is the only one most would see as genuinely 100% immoral.)

And yet. Maria thinks and feels. She is a person, even if she's not human, creating a tragedy within a tragedy.

[whippedcloudsofcream]

The great thing about the true ending of Blasphemous 2 is that you get to see your dead previous companions in Heaven,bcuz what the main character did apparently freed all the Penitents from their eternal sufferings and everyone gets to have a nice RIP at the end

It's for the best,the MC actually went through a lot of terrible things,his sworn brothers were all slaughtered,the new friends he made after also died cuz of this and that. But at least he got to meet them in the afterlife

It's honestly sad that the only way to free yourself of a cruel unending fate in this game is Death

It's interesting how in the story, everyone has a role to play regardless if they want or not,one can be revived from the death to play God's games whether they want it or not

It explained how even though the MC should be hated, should be reviled yet the normal NPCs are very welcoming to them despite the fact he's being eternally tormented. It's because he's a servant of God,all the Penitents is,everyone is, it's not a shameful thing to be used as a slave of God it seems. Until now,God is still an abstract concept in this game, it's an existence that'll never die

Even I myself don't understand what is the intention of God in Blasphemous,our MC is a chosen one alright,but he looks more like a plaything of God to me,seeing how he did what he did becuz he was told to do it,he was forced to do it, becuz God wanted him to do it. Not becuz he wanted to do it

There's also the question that was pointed out in this game: Is god the creation of man or man is the creation of god? Was all of the pains that we endure is our fault? I mean there's the theory that God is born from the human's sins, it's awfully realistic if you think about it

It's a game heavily based on actual religion so yeah it's awfully honest with it's themes and concepts,it didn't hold back on the dark truth of Religions that's for sure

I’m always down for religious critique in media, especially video games because of how they can get so creative with in, both in story and visuals 😭😭 I’m glad that MC and his companions also found peace, especially after all that trauma and hard hitting questions and trials they had to face because of all this frustrations and obstacles by God and the threats they pose. But it still nags you whether it was all intentional or not, but it honestly is best to leave it open ended so fans can come up with their own theories. As long as the MC and others have a decent ending lol 😭😭

[longagoitwastuesday]

Do you have favorite actors for the various roles in "Cyrano de Bergerac"? I would love to hear your thoughts!

I do! I actually rambled a lot about this while I was watching the different productions I could get my hands on (I tagged it "Cyrano de Bergerac" and "I talk too much").

My favorite productions are the one with José Ferrer and the one with Benoit Solès, and those actors make the best Cyranos in my opinion. Though that's probably something in part beyond the actors' choice, their dynamic with their respective Roxane and Christian are the best ones, I think, and I find how Cyrano moves around these two particular characters at the core of a good Cyrano characterisation.

José Ferrer's use of his voice, which is arguably Cyrano's true most characteristic feature, is unmatched imo (although McAvoy does a very good job with this too), and he manauvers very well several of the different aspects of the character, such as his playfulness, his shittiness and longing. By the end of the play you believe he is the most beautiful man on Earth. Cyrano, however, is a bit pathetic (not just in a "pathos" way), and I'd say Ferrer gives off an air full of dignity very fitting of many scenes, but that eats almost entirely this aspect of Cyrano; Benoit Solès manages this very well, while also playing well with some of the other ones, such as the playfulness, the longing, the pain and the despair. Both Ferrer and Solès are hilarious, tender, a bit shitty, vulnerable, playful and sad. Albeit neither of them portrays 100% what Cyrano is, I think both come pretty close in slightly different flavours, and by the end of the play one ends up being terribly fond of them.

My favourite Roxane is Clara Huet in the production with Benoit Solès, but Mala Powers in the 1950 film is a close second. I think they portray wonderfully Roxane's spunk, and her mix of honest playful cheerfulness and her haughtiness, her intelligence and wit, and how much like Cyrano she is.

I've not come to love for now any Christian as much as I've loved Ferrer, Solès, Huet and Powers, but again I think the Christians in the 1950 film and the Solès productions are very very good. I love the dynamic they have with their Cyranos, especially the one Christian and Cyrano have in the 1950 film, enhanced positively by the added scenes (they actually work so well in showing their developing as friends, their deep love and care for each other!). I don't want to expand too much on this to avoid spoilers (beyond the already known 'Christian dies' ones I mean), but some things they do with both these Christians are a thing of genius, and both feel vulnerable, kind, ready to fight and truly desperate at times; I like when they do that.

There's an Italian production which has a Cyrano I truly enjoy as well, despite how they dumbify him more than I usually like my Christians. His mix of anger and deep pain when he discovers Cyrano's feelings for Roxane were so well made, and his physical presence makes you identify who Christian is even before the play starts.

The Podalydès production has two different Christians. The one in the version on youtube isn't bad, but @ride-a-dromedary likes Éric Ruf a lot. I actually adore him based on the clips and gifs she's posted of him, but I haven't been able to find the version with him online, so I can't know. But he truly seems one of the best. Based on what little I've seen, I love his intense gazes and subtle gestures.

I'm not entirely sold on any Le Bret, De Guiche or Ragueneau yet.

I think the German musical has a decent Ragueneau in vibes, and the 1990 French film does as well. I found his poem made song for what I think is a Spanish production (I'm not sure if it's a fan creation based on the Spanish production), and while I've not been able to find that production online, the song works well in vibes too I think.

The German musical's Le Bret in vibes is very good. He encompasses well his deep love and worry for Cyrano while also being done with his shit. They truly feel like close friends. The 1950 film kind of combines Gaston de Castel-Jaloux and Le Bret into one character, which sadly changes Le Bret's dynamic with Cyrano a bit, but that's a very good Le Bret as well. The one in Solès' production is pretty good too. He has my favourite delivery of the scene in which Le Bret chastises Cyrano for risking his life sending letters.

De Guiche is complicated. I think productions often make him too pathetic and laughable or too bad, so bad it makes the last act kind of not make sense. The 1950 one, the 1990 French one, the Kevin Kline one and the Solès one are all good, but I am not passionate for any of them either.

And basically that's it!