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I wanna make a fic about runaway Sam who runs away when he's 9/10 because John hits him and the only place he thinks to stay at is bobbys.
They've only met twice and it was brisk and short. Nothing nice. Sam didn't even know if the guy would open the door for him!
But still, he hitchhikes his way to bobbys house exhaustedly making his way to the front door and knocking.
Out comes bobby with a scruffy lookin' beard and a used, weared cap, looking down at a bruised and near dead on his feet kid.
Bobby grabs him by his shirt dragging him in
"Im-im sorry uncle bobby- I just-I didn't have anywhere to go and dad got bad again, but he got bad again to me-" bobby cut the boys rambling off.
He had though that this had been a bad hunt gone wrong but..
"Your daddy did this to you?" Looking at the purple bruise on the boy cheek
Sam looked away horrifyingly embarrassed. Ofcourse bobby wouldn't believe him. John was his friend.
But Sam nodded anyway his lips pulled back in a grimace
"Son of a BITCH! I'm gonna kill that bastard." The older man scowled his knuckles going white from how tight he was holding himself.
"You.. believe me." His voice came out as a whisper
"Course I do. C'mon kid, you look like you could use a nap."
For the next few years (11 to be exact)
Bobby taught Sam everything he knew. Archery, researching, demons,vampires, wearwolves, how to fight (with more parental concern for its use and not just to hunt.)
When Sam had asked when he was 12 to go on a hunt bobby said no.
2 years later anexhausted bobby complied with his wishes and went on their first hunt.
Bobby couldn't be prouder when Sam comes up to him, barely a scratch on him
"See! I-i listened to that trick you taught me and-and I sweeped his leg, dad that was amazing!" Sam beamed like an excited animal
They both stilled in the car
"..oh." Sam looked out the window exceptionally embarrassed by his words.
Bobby was a gruff, not all talk about his feelings guy.
So when he said
"..you can call me that, boy if you wanna."
They left it at that..
Sam was enrolled into school taking the name Samuel singer.
He felt...nice about that.
But not all things worked out how we wanna.
And proof of that was the impala rocking up out of the blue in years on Bobby's property.
Sam was sixteen now, working on a car bobby had just newly gifted him for his birthday when he heard the car pull up.
"Sorry guys-we don't do walk ins her-" Sam stood in his tracks.
There stood a 20 year old concerned dean and a half guilty half relieved John.
Sam knew what his first instinct was
"daAAAD!" he yelled running into the house to grab his shotgun, bobby thinking the exact same thing.
Bobby walked out cocking his shotgun and aiming it at john's head
"What are you doing here." Bobby demanded.
"I want my son back, bobby. Now."
"Your son?"
"Yeah. My son." John sneered
"I'm his daddy. I cook him food for school. I have him *in* school. Couldn't say the same for you. Sam's good here. Actually no. Sam's great here. Cause hes my kid. Because he's *Samuel singer*, bastard." Bobby growled
Sam walked out and dean finally got a good look at the once scrawny boy.
Samuel had grown muscle, was probably just under 6ft and had grown out his hair funnily enough. If this was a lighter circumstance dean would punch his little brothers arm, ruffle his hair and tell him what an idiot he was.
But..it wasn't.
Sam was looking around with suspicious eyes, his body stuff and his arms crossed over his chest.
6 years it had taken. 6 years it had taken to find this kid. And he was right here with bobby. John had refuse to look here, after the last time he had seen bobby they had an falling out, presuming he would never help the winchester family again. He was indescribably wrong. He willed down the feeling of betrayal as he stared at the kid with a kind of shock in his eyes.
The kid called bobby dad now, went to school, had friends, had a social life.
"Sammy-" John turned over to see his son and Sam didn't even flinch his eyes just narrowed
"Sam." He corrected
Dean stepped up showing his hands in surrender as bobby Highers his gun properly
"Hey-hey look. Sam. Dad messed up. We get it i-c'mon kid. We want to take you back home you know? You've—you got you driving licence buddy? I heard about that, you wanna drive the impala the way there?" Dean was pleading, his knees about to buckle, if Sam wanted him to beg he was ready to put his pride aside.
"Dean.."
"Sammy please."
"No. I can't. Me and dad-"
"Bobby." Dean harshly snapped
"Dad." Sam snarled.
Johns jaw clenched and Sam's did too
"Your only so forgiving because he never hit you dean." Sams lip quivered as he fought back angry vicious tears.
John took a step and bobby aimed the gun it hitting johns forehead.
"You touch my kid and it's gonna be the last thing you do, John winchester. And I don't neccisarily want to be lighting a corpse on fire when me and Sam are going for a late birthday dinner." Bobby glared.
I will be writing this ff, 1st chapter will be coming out soon (today or tomorrow.)
#tv series#let this find the supernatural fandom if theyre still alive#supernatural prompts#supernatural#sam winchester fic#sam winchester angst#sam winchester#sam winchester appreciation#teen sam runs away to bobby who takes care of HIS kid.#boo john winchester#john winchester#we hate john Winchester#dean winchester blindly follows his dad at first but with the shared connection of truly trying to over protect sammy him and bobby agrwe#bobby singer
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do you think Dean taught Sam how to drive in the impala
#sam winchester#dean winchester#the winchesters#baby dean#baby sam#young dean#young sam#we hate john winchester
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I hate him.
I hate him.
I HATE HIM.
What do you mean you spent it on ammo? What do you mean you left your kids, barely teenagers at the time, to look for their own food at some crappy motel room? What do you mean you left Dean at a boys' home as punishment after he got caught stealing bread because he and Sam were hungry?
I hate him.
#bingeing some bits and i found this dialogue#when you watch the show for the first time sure it's kind of funny. but then the more we got to see sam and dean's childhood????#fuck off#i hATE HIM#he can laugh about this shit with sam while dean's out of the picture sure#and they can find some solace with one another after losing mary and jessica the exact same way#but to use that money to buy bullets instead of feeding your kids????#GOD i am now. fueled by anger#supernatural#spn#john winchester#sam winchester#dean winchester#the winchesters#spn screencaps#spn meta
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Me 🤝John Winchester
Never answering phone calls or texts even when they’re from my family
#i hate him so much but I just realized him and I communicate in the same way as in we do not communicate at all#john winchester#i hate john winchester#spn#Supernatural#spn season 1#supernatural season 1#sam and dean#dean winchester#sam winchester#supernatural fandom
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“dean’s problematic” “no sam’s problematic” “cas is a bad character”
guys, we can’t judge them by the usual standards of morality applied to characters. the writers were all fighting each other over consistency and the network was meddling so their actions episode to episode don’t mean as much for their characters as their essence does or like the core of the characters
#supernatural#dean winchester#sam winchester#castiel#this is true of all characters on spn btw#just like the show itself is a good show trapped within a bad show#they’re all good characters trapped within shitty character writing#i mean we know for a fact that they hating cas and the writing for him reflected that#oh! expect for john winchester of course#who is an utter dogshit human being with no redeemable traits
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best way to find cool spn fans is to ask them what they think about john winchester.
#“FUCK john winchester i HATE him he was HOMOPHOBIC to dean and canonically beat him 😡” well no.#spn#john winchester#we could talk about how he put responsibility (unwavering faith and dependability) beyond fulfillment on a 4 year old dean’s head or how he#infantilized/alienated sam so bad the monstrosity he did his best to keep him safe from destroyed him from the inside out#but yeah let’s talk about how he made dean kill gay nuns. idk
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You know what, I hate myself so I'm gonna watch Supernatural! As a Tumblr user I have knowledge of our hell sites favourite show but I haven't watched past s1 ish? all the supernatural girlies are watching 911 it's only right for me to pay them back ❤
#what i know: Dean and Sam brothers. Dad john is a piece of shit. mary dead (but comes back). Cas is an Angel.#castiel#sam winchester#dean winchester#supernatural#theirs a episode where they go to fan fic town and they sing the john and mary husband and wife song. dean got parentified and we hate john#their actual dad is bobby. bobbys dad also sucks. the mom from Suit life of Zach and Cody is their and she mom?#later seasons bring angels witches? and crowley (not good omens) and god?#queer baitie af. dean needs a nap and some pie? (and therapy).#batcavescolony watches#batcavescolony watches supernatural#embarrassing i spelled my own username wrong#batcaves is crazy. she has 10 comics shes started reading +two other shows she watching but she's decided to start watching supernatural too#pray for me all!
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Actually the implications of John also being bisexual are so fucking tasty to me because like. OG John has no support system and no protection against the world except his own perceived strength so he learns to ferret out anything that can possibly be seen as weakness to those around him and that includes any affection or attraction he might feel towards men because nothing screams "stay in your fucking closet" like spending all your time around a fringe subculture of serial killing doomsday preppers in the Midwest during the Reagan era.
By the time he notices Dean starting to look a little too long at boys his age, he's probably convinced himself that whatever he felt (still feels but ignores) was a temporary youthful indiscretion, and of course Dean can't afford those, doesn't get to have those, he's got to be a soldier. He's got to be a better soldier than John, even.
I dunno I've just had enough conversations with family members who are loudly but somehow also mildly homophobic and yet say or do things that make me *eyeballs emoji* not to think this is not only possible but arguably likely.
#supernatural#the winchesters#spn#spnwin#john winchester#shifting my headcanon of john to the type of person who doesn't think of himself as homophobic if he ever things about it at all#and would even probably try to stop a hate crime if he saw one happening right in front of him#(or likes to think he would)#but also views his own queer desire--and thus that of others--with suspicion and contempt#like something frivolous that he simply doesn't have the luxury to pursue as a Real Man in the Real World with Real Responsibilities#and when you live like that especially due to your own choices anything that seems like a luxury you view with a certain level of contempt#so he's like 'heh must be nice to have time for boyfriends' in the most condescending and degrading way imaginable#in the same way he probably treated sam's affinity for academia#in fact i'd argue a lot of what we see from dean with regards to the way he mocks sam for certain things is probably just echoes of john#and what's REALLY crazy-making is the way most of these things dean mocks sam for early on later prove to be things DEAN actually does enjo#dean likes to read and he loves chick flicks and he gets excited about tomatoes and enjoys dressing up nice#dean learned early on that certain things were not acceptable for a Real Man from john bullying him out of doing them#and he does the same to sam#and one of the things he consistently mocks sam for in the beginning is his perceived sexuality#and sure we could just chalk that up to stereotyping but EVEN THEN that jives with the idea that#john simply put his own queer desire in a box labeled 'weaknesses real men don't have' along with idk a love of reading and salads and bein#emotionally vulnerable and sincere with people you love#and then he told Dean 'this is the box of forbidden things'#and dean the ever-dutiful son learned his lesson well
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The writers really were like “What if Dean, fearing he would be like his dad, still suffering from the abuse from his dad in his late 30s, ends up treating Jack exactly like his dad treated him, eh?? Yeah, good?? Good writing??” What were they smoking is this a story about never escaping your fate or free will I’m just-
#dean winchester#jack kline#supernatural#john winchesters a+ parenting#I mean what are we even doing here#what was the point of free will if Dean just#ended up like his dad in the end#jfc why am I crying about this stupid show years later#dear spn writers: I hate you
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btw I still think that a dean winchester who a) knows he’s queer and b) accepts the enormity of his feelings for cas but has a thousand justifications for not pursuing them (e.g. thinks angels aren’t capable of feelings like that, the end of the world keeps happening and there’s no time, is the most self-loathing man on the face of the earth, etc. etc.) is way more compelling and true to canon than the deeply repressed “bro I’m not gay wtf” characterization that a lot of fanfiction seems to favor
#imo this is largely because people hate john winchester so bad#that they’re willing to mischaracterize dean to whatever degree is necessary to justify it#but we don’t have time to unpack all that#dean winchester#dean is bi#queer dean winchester#spn
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Spn fandom 🤝 the Winchester cast/crew
Hating John
#I love that they know how much we hate him#John Winchester#supernatural#the winchesters#spnwin#dean winchester#drake rodger
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Hello, Dean 🫵
#i’m pointing at sam haters#you’ve become your father#and by father i mean john#and by you i mean dean#p.s. i’m not saying the real dean hates sam because he doesn’t#but the audience has been conditioned to#can we dissect that as a society please and thank you#let’s think about why it’s so easy to judge sam#but not dean#could it be because the show is presented through deans pov#and criticizing dean means criticizing ourselves#or because he’s sexy and we want to please him#and we all hate to be wrong#so sam is either a burden or compensation for our job of taking care of him#or he’s a roadblock for you know what#you are now John#the very man you never wanted to be#Sam wanted to be trusted and respected and understood#he wanted control of his life and to be his own person#the worst sins of all#supernatural#sam Winchester#dean critical#i like dean as a character he’s very interesting#but not the morally righteous or woobified version of him#break Sam down into a shell of his former self#then he’ll never leave you or he’ll fade away so you can be gay and be fetishized#he’s kind but evil smart but an idiot a hunter but a freak a boy king but boring#this isn’t about the choices they’ve made it’s about how those choices are framed#also he left you for college what a selfish bastard
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all I can think about is 6 yr old Dean desperately trying to quiet down 1½yr old Sam while John is out on a hunt
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Supernatural Rewatch Season 1 Episode 3: "Dead in the Water"
Probably one of the scenes that gets gifed the most
"Must be hard. With your sense of direction. Never being able to find your way to a decent pickup line." Uhh, Burn Dean. Burn.
Dean looks so confused that his flirting didn't work and Sam's just smirking at Dean failing. Also Dean trying to figure out 3 names of kids he knows. 😂
"I think I know how you feel. When I was your age, I saw something. Anyway... well, maybe you don't think anyone will listento you or, uh... believe you. I want you to know that I will."
(Speaking from experience, Dean? Also the music in this scene and his face. 😭)
The way his voice breaks when he says: "that's my mom."
"See when I was your age, Insaw something real bad happen to my mom. And I was scared too. I didn't feel like talking, just like you. But, see, my mom... I know she wanted me to be brave. I think about that every day. And I do my best to be brave."
The realisation on Deans face.
Well Sam doesn't look like he knew that.
The way Lukas reaches for Dean so desperately and the way Dean looks after him. 🥲
Boys to the rescue.
Dean with kids. I repeat Dean with kids.
Dean looks so embarrassed by genuine affection 😂. And lil Sammy in the background again.
#supernatural#spn#spn20rewatch#spn 1x03#dead in the water#sometimes i wonder why they wouldn't think we would hate john winchester when there's episodes like these#dean with kids#i repeat dean with kids
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love the idea of sam being a leash toddler
#🎱#it’s a last resort measure#dean hates it more than anyone because he genuinely thinks sam would never leave his side#john is just like.. can we please. can we please not lose the boy to his childlike frolicking#it’s embarrassing all around#except for sam who genuinely loves it for some weird reason (dogboypuppyboy)#sam winchester
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do you know why sam believed in the easter bunny until 11 and a half?? because dean made it possible, leaving gifts and eggs for sam, because you all know john didn't
#happy easter#spn#supernatural#dean winchester#sam winchester#we hate john winchester fanclub#spn angst#sam and dean#easter bunny#cry with me
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