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does sasuke prefer to be the captain of his team or a follower?
He doesn't mind being a captain if he has to, or a follower if he respects the captain's strength.
Sasuke is a practical person who is good at teamwork, despite all misconceptions about him. Since his genin days he was much better than Sak and Nar at it, and he was ok following Kakashi's orders. His priority was the mission after all, not shining as the best or impressing someone else, like his teammates.
After he leaves Konoha it's the same, his priority is his own mission. So he forms the team he needs and leads it, because thinking practically, it's his own mission and his new comrades are helping him. And he's a good leader, protecting them.
When he meets Edo Tensei Itachi he follows his lead completely and immediately, it's just natural for him to follow his stronger and older brother, as he would have wanted when he was a child.
When he joins the battlefield he has his own stategy but he follows Nar*to's because the latter claims he has a better idea or smth, and he respects his strength.
So you can see how he's totally ok being a follower if the person he follows is strong enough and he respects them. He leads if he has to, if no one is doing what he thinks must be done.
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I read a post recently where someone said that when sasuke was young he was suspicious and indifferent of itachi and I realized that it was kind of true (him asking his dad about itachi and suspecting he killed shisui). Do you have a stance on how their relationship should have been considering the idea that he realized at such a young age his brother was an outsider (a little different)? If you’ve answered this feel free to ignore it. I feel bad when I see links in your responses.
I don’t think Sasuke was suspicious of Itachi.
Edo Tensei Itachi himself told Sasuke he kept him in the dark on purpose, and it’s true. Sasuke was a perceptive boy who felt the rift between his father and his brother, he felt there was tension between them but he didn’t understand why.
When the Uchiha police accused Itachi of killing Shisui Sasuke was confused, not suspicious of Itachi. When he asked his father about Itachi his question was if Itachi didn’t care about him...it’s a personal question, because he, as a child, felt his brother was cold to him. It has nothing to do with the clan, or with Itachi’s relationship to their father.
It’s all in episodes 83-84 (part 1), where also the massacre is first shown in detail, and there is Sasuke coming back in the house and seeing his dead parents with Itachi looming over them. His first reaction is telling him that their parents are dead...as if he’s totally not suspicious of him.
As for indifferent, it’s so wrong it hurts. Child Sasuke adored his older brother. He asked their father if Itachi didn’t care about him because he suffered that Itachi wasn’t closer to him in that moment.
If he was indifferent about Itachi his life wouldn’t have been so painful.
#vivalarevolution#vivalarevolution: a love that is more than love#I put links in my responses because I replied already with more motivation than I have now#Its not just a passive aggressive remark#it's practical#it's natural to feel less motivated to discuss always the same things when you have a blog for way too long. when I started it#I just had started reading nar and I was obsessed. now I haven't reread it in ages and I don't feel like it
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do u think itachi has romantic and sexual feelings for sasuke in canon? yes or no?
I think Itachi's and Sasuke's feelings for the other are more complex than this, that it's difficult to define them and it's useless to limit them, in one way or the other.
But I replied to similar asks here, here, here, here and here.
This is my itachi/sasuke relationship tag, you might want to browse through it cause it's full of stuff lol
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What would Itachi's life be like without Sasuke? In shinden he had his own dream of world peace and being hokage, so while later his life did revolve around Sasuke, would it still be like that without the UCM? It seemed like Itachi had a life outside of Sasuke, while Sasuke didn't have a life outside of Itachi.
It's true, Itachi had a life outside Sasuke because he had his ideal of peace which led him to protect the village, so even if Sasuke was the most important 'thing' in his life, he had something else as well, while for Sasuke Itachi was his most important 'thing' but since that most important person had killed their parents and destroyed his life, he had nothing else. That's why Itachi made him focus on revenge, also.
Without the massacre Itachi's life would revolve around the village, doing missions, helping his father and the clan with its things, and so on, and ofc around Sasuke who would still be his most important person and whom he'd always keep an eye on because it's his personality to be controlling and to want his brother to have a good life, his concept of it adjusting to the context, which in this case would be a non-massacre universe, where Sasuke would be safer and closer to him and where he could have his own life too, allowing himself to have friends and so on, when he's not working hard to be worthy of working with his father and brother, which used to be his dream before the massacre.
I replied to a vaguely related ask here. More about non massacre AU headcanons here.
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What do you think is Itachi's biggest fear? And Sasuke's?
Itachi’s biggest fear is that something bad happens to Sasuke, and by something bad I mean death, because for someone like him who saw the battlefield at 4, death is the worst thing. Also, closely related to death, there is Sasuke not being safe. That’s why he accepted Danzo’s conditions, that’s why he slaughtered the whole clan, joined Akatsuki and lied to Sasuke manipulating him. His biggest fear was Sasuke’s death, and Sasuke not being safe by becoming an enemy of Konoha. This made him act in ways that made Sasuke suffer immensely, but in those ways he thought he’d keep his brother alive and safe.
Sasuke is different. His situation is completely different. As a child, and partly later, he might have feared to not be enough, strong enough to be beside his brother and father, but then he lost them, and then he made up for his insecurities by training constantly and focusing on revenge and strength. Despite his terrible situation Itachi had a sort of control over things, he had the knowledge of the whole situation and he could make his own choice (even though he was being threatened by Danzo saying he’d kill Sasuke). Sasuke didn’t have any knowledge of how reality was, he only knew what Itachi had made him believe, so he acted according to that, and later according to the pieces of truth he learned. Besides he lost everything and everyone he loved so he might be afraid of losing his friends like he says in pt.1 once, and he shows the same feeling in pt.2 when Killer B is attacking Team Taka and he activates/learns to control Amaterasu to protect Karin.
But, at the same time, it’s not exactly the same imo, because despite his bonds, Sasuke’s main bond is the love for his family and his even stronger bond with his brother, which is the root of everything he feels, thinks and does, which makes him first sever all other bonds to become stronger and defeat Itachi (to have revenge and justice for his family), then avenge Itachi, then fight to protect the village Itachi had wanted to protect, then try to become what in his mind a Hokage should be=like Itachi.
Since he didn’t have Itachi anymore and he didn’t have his most beloved ones anymore he’s kind of fearless, and you can see it through the series how reckless and uncaring he was when it came to his own safety.
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Not interested in Itachi without Sasuke! Finally someone who gets it! Just read a Shiita fic and the first part was good but later it just focused on them and brushed aside Sasuke. Too many fix it fics are Itachi's life getting better, not Sasuke's. Like if Itachi got a second chance he wouldn't devote it all to Sasuke. There are too few fics focusing on Sasuke, it's always look how perfect Itachi is, feels like that filler where Sasuke is just plot device. Sasuke is the MC, not Itachi.
Thank you. Thing is, I understand their logic.
I can like minor characters and want to write something to give them space and not give it to main characters, that’s ok. They ship shiita, Sasuke is in the way of their ship, so they childishly hate Sasuke and superficially remove him from the narration or express their hatred for him portraying him as a jealous and annoying overly present character bothering their cute couple.
This is OOC on many levels, because Sasuke is not a jealous person at all, not even of his brother, precisely because Itachi is his older brother whom he respects, so even if he was jealous of him spending time with Shisui, he wouldn’t do anything about it because he’s younger and he respects his brother’s authority, having been raised in a traditional household.
Itachi’s most important person is Sasuke and Sasuke’s most important person is Itachi, this is obvious. But while shippers of Sasuke with someone else can write fics where Itachi is dead, Itachi shippers can’t. Those who ship Itachi with an akatsuki member can focus on the period Itachi was there and didn’t have Sasuke around but shiita shippers are usually writing some non massacre or modern au so they have to ‘deal’ with Sasuke’s presence, so to speak.
It’s stupid because they could just portray him as the younger brother Itachi is protective of, they could portray the uchiha brothers as super close but they could still focus on the shiita dynamic more, instead they still see him as a threat, which, if they don’t ship itasasu, is stupid because they could just see them as brothers and itachi’s protectiveness could just be seen as the older brother’s behavior. Also because they portray itachi as not controlling or commanding with Sasuke, which btw is very OOC because itachi is not meek, not submissive and especially not with Sasuke whom he controls and decides for, whether Sasuke is ok with it or not.
But ofc for them it’s the opposite. That’s why despite not having anything against the pairing I avoid shiita fics like the plague.
#anti-shiita#kind of. only to avoid problems lol#vivalarevolution: bonds#vivalarevolution#vivalarevolution: a love that is more than love
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You know what I hate more than SS and NH shippers?
Narusasu shippers, they are crazyyyyyy, not all of them, some of them. There is one of them who said that sasuke obsession with itachi is not special, and he forgiving itachi is not special either, but Naruto and sasuke relationship is special, and itasasu is only a crack ship??? Like i am sorry but what is special about Naruto and sasuke relationship????? And itasasu actually is not a crack ship.
I might agree hating some NS shippers but for other reasons.
It’s logical that they hate IS and belittle it. It’s stupid saying it’s a crack ship, they might at least say it’s a brotherly relationship and see it only that way, which automatically would eliminate it from the ship competition. It’s like IS shippers saying N and S are just friends. All shippers see their ship as the real thing while others are friends, brothers, comrades, whatever.
Ofc I see IS as a stronger bond compared to NS but the story is done on purpose to parallel and put N and S close so shippers see things from this perspective that imo is forced and kinda stretched but it makes sense. Unlike canon ships. My main problem with NS is how shippers see it as super healthy and good, and how they see N as positive and selfless when he’s canonically possessive and imposing on S and canonically having a dark side. Someone who forces himself and his standards on someone else with the pretext of wanting to save them is manipulative, but no one thinks so for Nar. But keeping into account all this, dark NS with dark Nar is very fitting, very IC and I find it very interesting.
Btw if someone ships healthy NS and likes selfless positive Nar don’t come bitching at me pls. I don’t have time and interest to discuss. This is my blog and I can write whatever the f*ck I want.
But I have a whole tag about my ideas on NS, a tag for IS, a tag for asks and meta.
As for canon ships no, I disagree. I will always hate NH and especially SS more than anything else and I don’t want anyone liking them to interact with me.
#vivalarevolution#vivalarevolution: a love that is more than love#hawk's NS#anti-narusasu#anti-sasusaku#anti-naruhina
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Hi so I'm a new fan and I love Itachi and sasuke so much. But at death fugaku asks him to protect sasuke,which might be the reason behind his overprotectiveness which is disturbing. The same way it's so obvious a massive reason why narutos Gon bring sasuke back was the promise with sakura. It only didn't matter anymore when he knew the truth. Can you please show me anything that may prove his promise wasn't the reason he spared him?
Hi, I have the feeling you're either a new fan leaning towards canon pairings, or towards no pairings at all. I might be wrong but the 'reason why naruto is going to bring sasuke back is the promise with sak' kinda suggests this. Because it's not so obvious like you say.
(ofc if I’m wrong about my impression sorry)
Nar did promise Sak to bring Sas back but do you really think he didn't want to bring Sas back? His feelings for Sasuke were much stronger than his feelings for Sak, I'm not even defining them but it's obvious that his main thought was Sas and that bringing him back was his own desire.
His obsession, actually, and this is my tag about the Naruto/Sasuke relationship.
As for Itachi, he was overprotective of Sasuke even before the massacre. In fact, the reason he kept everything hidden from Sasuke was his protectiveness. He never let Sasuke know the clan was against Konoha to the point of planning a coup, it's also shown in part 1 when Sasuke wakes up in the night and overhears Itachi and Fugaku discussing and Itachi curtly sends him back to sleep, so that he wouldn't hear anything about the real situation.
There is also the way Itachi stood up against Fugaku when Fugaku didn’t want to go to Sasuke’s Academy entrance ceremony for something clan related and Itachi said he’d not go to an Anbu mission he had to attend it in his place. It shows not only that Itachi wants to support Sasuke but also that he wants to give Sasuke a calm life without knowledge of the real situation their clan was.
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Man, anti-*tachi fans are a confusing and irritating breed. Their takes are so hypocritical and ignorant of the context the manga provides. I am eternally rolling my eyes whenever their posts plug the *tachi tag. Also makes me lose braincells over their poor portrayal of themselves as "superior" and "sensible" readers and fans who truly understood the story which they clearly did not. Not to mention, I've observed most of them are so-called Sa*uke "stans" (and F*gaku "stans"). Funny thing is, their fave wouldn't tolerate their niisan slander LMAO
Ofc Sasuke would disagree on everything, he adored his older brother.
But these ppl are not just anti-itachi fans and Sasuke stans, they're also, how they say it themselves, Sasuke 'apologists' and Nar ‘critical fans’ who ‘don't condone konoha's systemic oppression’ thus they can’t let the Uchiha genocide be forgotten, which leads to Itachi hate.
Tbh I don’t care about defending Itachi because in the past I wrote about this kind of topic so much that I got kinda bored by all this. It should be obvious, Sasuke loves his brother more than anything in the world. Despite the horrible things his brother did. That’s why their bond is so deep.
Also I find Itachi interesting because he’s a controversial character. And because Sasuke adores him. Other than this, I’m not interested in him much anymore because the fandom ruined him for me. Cause not just haters but also Itachi stans seeing him as a martyr who has no fault are ridiculously pushing an OOC interpretation of their fave.
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Thanks for the answer. To clarify, is Itachi ok with Sasuke leaving him and the pain he caused in a post massacre world if he wasn't dying?
Thanks for coming back and clarifying.
Everything Itachi did was to ensure that Sasuke remained alive, no matter how painful or controversial or brutal in the mind of Itachi it was necessary to keep his brother alive and as safe as he could be in their situation, which, in his mind, means being in Konoha, as a Konoha shinobi.
(it’s an in-universe analysis of his motifs, not a moral judgment, in case someone needs to see this specified)
If he thought that Sasuke was safe he'd be ok. It should be his concept of safe though, or else he'd need to "verify" how safe he is in the path he chooses for himself.
Because Itachi had chosen Sasuke's path even before he got sick.
More about Itachi. More about Sasuke. More about Itachi and Sasuke's relationship.
#vivalarevolution: in his defense#vivalarevolution: a love that is more than love#And I'm not saying he did right or wrong#just stating his motifs.#so if someone disagrees I couldn't care less lol don't come at me talking shit about itachi#I discussed that shit too long now I just don't cares#I don't accept ppl mentioning bullshit like genocide#on fictional stuff#when real genocide is happening right now in the real world#I'll block anyone who'll act like an activist for the uchiha clan or whatever#cause real horrible things are happening and fiction is just fiction
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I was wondering if say narusasu, itasasu, kakasasu, shisasu and among the four with them being possessive and wanting to have sasuke who would have it easier among them in being in a relationship with sasuke?
I'm not sure what 'have it easier among them in being in a relationship with sasuke' means, related to being possessive and wanting to have sasuke. Do you mean that all of them want Sasuke and they're competing for him? Or that all of them are possessive so how would a relationship with Sasuke would be?
If you mean that all of them want Sasuke and they're competing for him, Itachi has the biggest advantage because Sasuke adores him and he'd do whatever Itachi says. But since Itachi is his brother he might not compete directly, so he'd indirectly manipulate Sasuke to not choose his rivals, and he'd do something to the rivals as well, from discussing in a lightly (or not) threatening way, to investigating them in order to find something to use against them, and so on. Anyway Itachi in canon entrusted Sasuke to N*ruto so he might be softer, or rather, less hard, on him. But it depends on whether Itachi wants Sasuke to be with someone (in that case he'd prefer Nar to anyone else) or he doesn't (or he wants him for himself). In my fic Victims of Peace Itachi is totally against Shisui when he discovers that he and Sasuke are in a relationship, he manipulates Sasuke and threatens Shisui, I think this behavior is fitting for him in every setting and circumstances. Because Itachi thinks he knows best, since he's Sasuke's older brother, and his instinct to protect him justifies everything.
N*ruto has this 'I love Sas and I know what's best for him' too, but he'd be direct about it, and very loud, dominating, imposing in a straight-in-your-face way. He'd confront Itachi too should he need it. As for Shisui, there’s little canon material. he’s a determined, strong, confident personality, who knows his worth and who knows what he wants and who. He’s also gifted at behaving with people though, so he can be liked and bond easier than Itachi, who’s a genius but who’s also arrogant and aloof. He also appears less 'strict' and more 'chill' than Itachi, despite being scary against his enemies. Even the way he explained Itachi (in Shinden) about freedom/justice being a subjective concept so every village fights thinking they're in the right, shows a wise, clever person who can see others' perspectives, which makes me think he'd consider Sasuke's as well. Now I go into a deeper headcanon territory, repeating myself and mentioning Victims of Peace, where (dom/sub and bdsm-ish stuff aside) Shisui lets Sasuke free to choose and to be himself, which might end with Sas choosing him or not.
Kakashi is a bit harder, I imagine he'd be a mix of Itachi and Shisui in this context. He'd be indirect and manipulative at times, but less than Itachi, and he might 'concede' Sasuke a little more freedom of choice if it meant getting free from Itachi's influence (or N*ruto's?), but still, if he wants Sasuke he'd make sure to have advantages, which might be that he's an older brother kinda figure, but he's not an older brother for real, so he'd care about Sas well being in a less imposing way. Apparently.
If you mean that that all of them are possessive and you wanted o know how would a relationship with Sasuke would be, N*ruto would be very possessive, jealous, imposing, in a direct way, as it’s shown in his canon behavior, since he went berserk when Orochimaru said ‘my sasuke’ and all the times he clearly told Sas that he’d bring him back whether he wants it or not, even if he has to break his bones. (if you disagree with this pls don’t tell me lol, I don’t wanna know. keep your ooc selfless nar away from me pls)
Itachi is very dominant and very controlling, but he’d act in a manipulative, indirect way, showing Sasuke others’ flaws, showing him that they’re bad or smth, in a way to push Sasuke away from them, more than just flat out telling him he shouldn’t get close to others. He’d also be direct in certain occasions, but mostly he’d be convoluted and confusing. Anyway, he’d always win with Sasuke because Sasuke adores him, has a low self-esteem especially compared to him, so he’d do anything even just to please him. Also Itachi might fool himself into thinking he’s not possessive or jealous, he’s just protecting Sasuke. (same as above: if you disagree with this pls don’t tell me, I don’t wanna know. keep your ooc meek itachi in other blogs lol)
For Shisui there’s not much enough canon evidence...Like I wrote earlier he’s a determined, confident personality, who knows his worth and who knows what he wants and who, who can appear chill and bond easily, despite turning to serious and scary if he needs to. I think that he’d be chill about possessiveness, apparently, giving Sasuke space, kind of, but also kinda controlling him secretly at times, but he might act possessively if he felt threatened.
Kakashi would be similar to Shisui, imo, even less possessive. He’d leave Sas his space, cause he seems that kind of person. But since he has an unresolved past with Sasuke, who was his student and who left him, basically preferring another mentor to him, I think his possessiveness and jealousy would come out unexpectedly at times, together with these issues.
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I hope one of these 2 options I understood was the one you looked for~
#kakasasu#shisasu#itasasu#not even tagging Ns cause I don't wanna have disappointed shippers come at me lol#hawk's NS#vivalarevolution#vivalarevolution: bonds#vivalarevolution: visions#vivalarevolution: a love that is more than love#headcanons
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I think that orochimaru did something sexual to sasuke, but then I think about itachi and I think about his face when he killed orochimaru, and maybe he knew about orochimaru and what he did to sasuke. But that make him the worst big brother, I don't know why people call him the best big brother??
I replied to a similar ask here, and I have a whole tag for Itachi, whose actions I’m kinda bored to discuss after having done it for a long time, sorry.
I too headcanon that Itachi knew what Orochimaru did to Sasuke, because he knew how Orochimaru was, so freeing Sasuke from the curse mark was also a way to free him from everything else that was done to him, in a figurative sense ofc.
As for your last sentence, most people in fandoms (and not only) talk in stock phrases and meme language, they all imitate each other, they don’t think independently. Best brother, worst brother, they are concepts that don’t mean anything to me. Fiction is fiction, you can’t judge it with real life terms anyway. Fiction has to follow a narrative, characters need a background for their actions, some things can’t be avoided if you want characters and the story to move on, so this kind of judgement shows a lack of critical thinking, a lack of knowledge of narrative, from literature to movies and anime, cause such tragic and controversial stuff is f*cking needed.
This was an out-of-universe comment. In-universe, Itachi was blackmailed, Danzo said that if he didn’t side with them he would have killed the clan anyway, starting from Sasuke. Itachi loved Sasuke more than anyone else so he chose to sacrifice the whole clan to keep him alive and he chose to keep him alive in Konoha, which despite its dark sides he still believed in because he believed in the concept of village to keep the peace. It’s in my Itachi tag that I’ll link again here, there are so many asks I can’t even choose which one to link tbh.
He chose to keep Sasuke in Konoha thinking that he’ll stay there, with a sensei and a team, and he’d get stronger there until it was time to kill him. He didn’t foresee that Orochimaru would set his eyes on him, put a curse mark on him and manipulate him using precisely Sasuke’s weakness against Itachi. He didn’t foresee that Sasuke would appear when he and Kisame tried to kidnap Naruto and to keep his cover he traumatized and humiliated Sasuke even more, which led him to sever his bonds with Konoha and join Orochimaru even quicker.
Tbh I couldn’t care less if Itachi is the best or the worst brother, if he’s good or bad. What I care about is the bond he has with Sasuke, in good and in bad, and what I care about even more is the way Sasuke feels about him, the strongest feelings he has for him.
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Dear Hawk, you said several times in your posts you believe that Sasuke has a m@sochistic streak. Do you think Itachi could have "a thing for pain" as well?
No I don't think so. This is an unpopular opinion for many so if you are into passive/victim Itachi you might not want to read this, and if you do keep in mind that it’s my opinion on my blog for which I demand respect. Anyway.
It's a fan thing to imagine that he has, and it's ok to have headcanons but imo in canon he never showed such tendency.
In Sasuke I see it in the way he is reckless when it comes to risking his own life, it's a mix of being goal oriented and having a low self esteem, so he doesn't care if he gets hurt, offended, humiliated, used, as long as he reaches his goal (remember how he didn't mind Tobirama's words or becoming Orochimaru's vessel).
In Itachi I don’t see anything similar. Especially when it comes to physical attacks, he usually stays away from them, being a genjutsun user firstly, and only occasionally he engages in physical and close range combat, and when he does it’s for a short time. He might do it to save energy, but also because it’s not his thing. Only with Sasuke he engages in a closer combat and gets more physical but it’s an aggressive way (ofc, since they’re fighting) and he shows superiority, usually, getting to hit and hurt Sasuke much more than getting hit and hurt in return.
So when I think about him actually I can see the reverse, he might have a thing for inflicting pain, since his attacks are kinda sadistic, both physically and psychologically, think about the way he beat Sasuke very closely and very brutally every time, and think about Mangekyou and how he used it on both Kakashi and Sasuke, to reproduce a longlasting pain, and a painful moment over and over.
I hope this answers your question in a satisfying way Anon.
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I was reading your answer to this question (https://avenger-hawk.tumblr.com/post/172101935311/do-you-think-itachi-would-have-a-problem-with) and got me thinking, what about if Sasuke were with N*ruto? Would Itachi think that he could handle N*ruto and therefore their relationship?
Itachi sort of trusts him, given that he entrusted Sasuke to him (of course he was dead, so he didn't have many options), but in a scenario of Itachi not being dead...
It’s quite an interesting question, because Itachi entrusting Sasuke to Nar*uto is imo mainly a plot device to bring Sasuke to N*ruto’s side, as during the whole Shippuuden Sasuke has no interest whatsoever in going back to Konoha in the beginning, and later he wants to destroy it even, so it’s a point of no return...unless something happens, and this something is Itachi entrusting him to N*ruto, so that Nar would have some sort of authority, so to speak, over him, so that Nar’s fixation on bringing him back would become even more important, official even, having been acknowledged as Itachi’s will.
It’s a plot device but it’s also very fitting with Itachi’s personality and ideals, since he went as far as setting up a kotoamatsukami to ‘convince’ Sas to return, just in case he learned the truth. (see also here, here and here)
In 2 occasions Itachi shows trust towards Nar, when he met him before fighting Sasuke, and he interrogated the boy to know why he was so obsessed with his brother, and as Edo Tensei, when they fought together and talked more. Imo it’s an exaggeration that Itachi says that Nar reminded him of Shisui, also because their personalities are not that similar, as Nar isn’t the only one who occasionally smiles and has a warm side, but it’s part of kishi’s superficial writing and fixation for parallels between characters and generations, as if characters weren’t interesting if they weren’t paralleled with someone else.
Anyway, back to your scenario. Would Itachi have the same trust for N*ruto if he wasn’t dead/dying? Imo, yes and no. I think he wouldn’t be totally ok with how the village punished Sasuke, for example, because he always wanted to protect him more than anything and for him the village meant safety for Sasuke, but if that very village blindfolded, sealed and imprisoned his brother despite having been crucial in saving the world, it would be bad. Very bad. And N*ruto not having stood up against such treatment would have been totally not trustworthy.
So I want to think. I don’t want to think about Itachi as someone so loyal to Konoha that he would judge ok to imprison his brother, especially not after helping so much in the war. I think he wanted Sasuke to be safe, in Konoha mainly, but also from Konoha, that’s why for him it was important to keep him there. After all he, more than anyone, knew what it was like to be seen as an enemy of the village, like the Uchiha were considered back then.
That’s why I think in a canon post ending scenario he’d be wary of N*ruto, and overall he’d have more control over Sasuke, being alive and being able to interact with him, talk to him, influence him directly or indirectly.
In a different scenario, like I just said, Itachi alive would have more influence over Sasuke, so he wouldn’t need to entrust him to N*ruto or anyone else, unless he had to leave for reasons, and I think he might entrust him as well, but it would be a more ‘loose’ concept. And ofc, if he saw N*ruto doing something he doesn’t like, he’d take that trust back.
As for Itachi thinking that Sasuke can or cannot handle N*ruto, I think the point would be that entrusting his brother to N*ruto he is not considering that at all. In fact it’s quite the opposite, he wants N*ruto to ‘handle’, look after, whatever, his brother.
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sooo... i looked through your tags and i don't know if you've ever been asked this; but i'm curious. what do you think of sasuke not saying ANYTHING to itachi canonly after he told him the truth? he just stayed quiet, stared, and i UNDERSTAND he might have been in shock. but as an itasasu shipper, this man didn't even say i love you TOO when itachi was ASCENDING. what do you think of his silence? why'd he do that? what was he thinking?
Luckily Nar is not a romantic movie, where the other person says I love you too...it wouldn't even be IC, sorry. I understand shipper feelings but when the ship becomes kinda ooc for the characters and setting, it’s like fanfiction replaced canon, and not the bad parts of canon but the basic characteristics that made shippers ship them in the first place.
Sasuke keeping silent is a beautiful scene and his behavior is fitting for someone who is shocked by everything Itachi showed him through his eyes, for someone who, the last time Itachi got so close to him, thought he'd be killed for his eyes, for someone who during his childhood always was affectionate to his brother who was affectionate too but in a less open way, for someone who chased his Edo Tensei brother and fought beside him, accepting his lead and showing how much he loved him despite everything.
Showed, with actions, which is much more meaningful than 3 words. And showed with other words, more fitting for him. Like telling Itachi, before he'll leave forever, how much he remembered the old times, speaking sadly, with a broken voice about all this, and with the same broken voice yelling at him in the woods before said fight, trying to get his attention. Like not stopping his brother even though he'd like to spend more time with him, and yelling at him that he's perfect. And later, like all the times he spoke about him. I think 'I love you' would be unnecessary for Sasuke, who showed his love in many ways many times.
Itachi loved Sasuke too and he showed it in his own way but he also made Sasuke suffer so him telling those words means a lot, for the reader and for Sasuke. And Sasuke's shocked expression and his consequent resolve, is much more than simple words.
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Hello! I just had a random thought. What do you think Sasuke would do after he killed Itachi and never found the truth?
I don't think Sasuke ever planned beyond Itachi's death. He expected to die there, either with Itachi or by suicide. But say if Itachi dies and Sasuke survives, what happens next? His goals are achieved. From his perspective the one who wronged his clan and soiled their dignity is gone. Perhaps he would find purpose in Taka or Team 7, though I don't think either purpose is strong enough to tether him to reality. Idk, just asking for your input I guess lol
Hello. I don't think Team Taka or, even worse, Team7 would be a strong enough purpose either, even though his comrades are important to him so he’d sacrifice to protect them not caring about his life if the situation needed it. He’d be an empty shell. But I replied to an identical ask here and here.
#vivalarevolution#vivalarevolution: not crazy but desperate#vivalarevolution: a love that is more than love
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