#victor makes me think of frankenstein
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Random poll time cause I’m having trouble deciding (dw tumblr will NOT be the final say, I just want outside perspectives)
#victor makes me think of frankenstein#but the allure of a weird Italian name is too strong#legal name change#trans names#polls
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Frankenstein—Mary Shelley
#I just finished rereading Frankenstein finally. and man#I could probably write an essay about all the ways that ''a miserable spectacle of wrecked humanity'' makes me think of Vanitas#both in ways that relate to victor and the line's original intent. and in ways that absolutely don't#vnc#vanitas my beloved#vanitas no carte#the case study of vanitas#vnc vanitas#comparison#long post#ID in alt text#noé arqueueviste
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Folks often make fun of the fact that Ernest says "my brother" instead of "our brother" during the Frankensteins' reunion after William's death as if throwing shade at Victor but like
There's some 10-ish years age gap between Ernest and William, for Victor and William it's 17. William was most likely not even a year old when Victor left to university and there's been radio silence from him ever since. Victor and William literally don't know each other, for pretty much William's whole life Ernest has been his only brother. It was just the two of them and Liz, Victor was never part of it. So it's natural that Ernest would slip like that.
Victor lost the idea of a brother but Ernest actually lost a brother
#and don't make me bring up the fact that William was lost at a time when Ernest was the only one to watch over him in the forest#and therefore at first glance it would seem entirely his fault William was lost#I'll never stop thinking about that#frankenstein#the modern prometheus#william frankenstein#ernest frankenstein#victor frankenstein
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victor frankenstein is so fucking gay you guys
#I think about him daily#victor my love if only you weren't so repressed#look I could write several essays on victor's hatred of the creature as a manifestation of his own self hatred#I think it's very neat#also he can't stop having homoerotic relations with all his male companions#the similarities between his relationships with henry and robert make me ill#frankenstein#victor frankenstein#frankenstein mary shelley
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i’m like if victor frankenstein was a fine arts student in 2024 , call me the modern modern prometheus
#more of moth#frankenstein#victor frankenstein#originally posted this on my personal instagram then repeated it in the classic lit server#i think abt it often makes me giggle#chemistry is like. one of my fav things tho#i consider it a hobby
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These playlists are gonna make me cry, I can't, they're so bad...
Don't you dare try to gaslight me, Victor would NOT listen to Will Wood, leave him out out this...
Like, for actual characterization, this one had it, a lot of these songs are actually on our own Frankenstein playlist...
Heavy on HAD...
#Spotify playlists are SO SO BAD#god awful#dude if we're gonna drag will wood into fucking gothic/classic literature it's only acceptable with Jekyll and Hyde#Only time I'll let it slide besides maybe two or three of his songs that actually work with Frankenstein (Main Character and Memento Mori)#They had MSI on one of the playlists too#so bad...#Also#Tbh Necromancin' Dancin' isn't really Frankenstein either unless we're thinking of just beginning Victor#and even then making evil and the message of the song seems a bit different from Victor#more movie Victor core#The Imagine Dragons took me out though#next you're gonna tell me Weezer is on there /hj#if you want anything done right do it yourself#frankenstein#victor frankenstein#gothic lit#classic literature#gothic literature#classic lit#mary shelley#the modern prometheus#I have a deep hatred against these playlists because they're so inaccurate#please dude if you're gonna do a playlist and insist your headcanons at least make sure they make SOME SENSE#I can't#the autism is gonna win today#Can you tell I'm very passionate about this because Frankenstein is my Spin??? /hj
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Saw a thing about Frankenstein where they were like “Victor’s so selfish, his family dies and he finds a way to make himself the victim.”
Am I crazy? Cause… Victor is the victim. Like I feel like that’s pretty clear, the Creature kills all of Victor’s loved ones to hurt Victor.
Obviously yes, William, Justine, Elizabeth, and Henry are all victims as well, but they’re not the target. Victor is the target, to the Creature the rest of them are just collateral damage.
#frankenstein#victor frankenstein#My Post#At this point I just think half of you haven't read the book#Also I feel like everyone is kinda like hating on Victor to almost avenge the characters that die#I don't know if that makes sense but like in a way that implies that everyone would have been better off hating Victor#And they were only tolerating him because he's the main character and never actually liked him. That's just what it seems like to me though#But like every single one of them loved Victor even Justine (I guess maybe not William because he probably doesn't remember him too well)#I think that even if they knew their fate they still would have chose to know Victor because they love him#I know everyone wants to hate him but he genuinely brought joy and companionship to these people#They would be so mad at people blaming him for their deaths (And for uwu-fying their murderer)
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cannot believe this musical concept album gave me Real Feelings about a character from the Odyssey who appears, like, twice
#Polites is described in the Odyssey as Odysseus's bestest bestie and then like never features in any of the subsequent drama#to the point where there's no 'canonical' version of how he died#it's either by Scylla and Charybdis or when Odysseus's whole fleet gets got for eating Helios's cows#so I genuinely think it's a super interesting adaptation choice for Jorge Rivera-Herrans to pull him out to be a major character#and then make him the first to die on the trip home#Odysseus's first major miscalculation results in the death of his best friend#Which then immediately frames his taunting of Polyphemus not as hubristic smugness but grief and rage#It IS very funny though how much more heroic and moral JRH made Odysseus (by modern standards) than he was in his stories#Also a long-standing adaptation tradition when you are the writer director and star#Will always make fun of Kenneth Branagh for making Victor Frankenstein a mostly well-meaning guy Trying His Best. Not a selfish coward nooo#And y'know. famously. there's Lin-Manuel Miranda as Alexander Hamilton#Anyway. Jorge Rivera-Herrans and Steven Dookie gave me real feelings about Polites. I salute them#Epic the Musical#Polites
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i've had a sims flop era just like this before where i wasn't happy with anything i made it was this awkward mid-point between my old sim style and my current where it seems like i was trying to do my current sim style but couldn't quite do it right so ig it's experimenting time🧍♂️
i was just going through my archive to see if there was a specific turning point (you know how sometimes you scroll to the bottom of an artist you like's instagram and start going backwards and sometimes you can see the exact piece where their art style shifted into theirs) but i actually don't see one here. it was right around when i started trying to render which i guess helped me build my preferences and my knowledge of lighting/composition/colors, but idk how or what i'm even going for nowadays 🤨 i'm gonna commit to getting out of this rut though. but that means a temporary this is the fall break i like these next few posts i want to like how they look
#maybe i'll just movie poster edit 🤷♂️ let's see what have i not done yet hmmmm#i need to make new sims though. and really try to experiment w them so if you see me posting some weird ugly mutants just leave me be#victor frankenstein era idk. they will be beautiful EVENTUALLY#it's kinda scary like. what's the new sim style gonna look like where is this car going#we're not even gonna talk about my in game shots ok#i downloaded a bunch of reshade presets which i /think/ are made w the most recent reshade and won't be broken? so we'll see
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what does it say about me if i cry about frankenstein’s creature every time i get even slightly tipsy
#i just think of all the people who only refer to him as a monster and it makes me genuinely devastated#‘i could be a good mother’ but its a transmasc person talking about a creature that canonically killed like four people#rip victor frankenstien i simply wouldve raised him better#rip victor frankenstein i wouldve ACTUALLY RAISED HIM#mary shelley u genius every time i think about this novel i wanna shake your hand and look you firmly in the eyes and thank you#for your service#and maybe build her a shrine#depends on the vibes of the day#frankenstein#mary shelley#nom nom nom nom nom (me consuming this novel on repeat since i was 14)#i literally walked into english class on my 14th bday and the teacher went ‘time to read frankenstein!’ and ive never been the same since
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More mh soul eater stuff
Catty is Blair and Victor Frankenstein is um Dr Stein!!! Shocking ik
Draculaura: wait... Frankie Stein... Dr Frankenstein
Draculaura: are you two?
Victor: NO RELATION! also I'm not a doctor
Draculaura: WHAT
Victor: how single is your dad?
Draculaura: WHAT
#dracula is Spirit obviously#i was thinking about Toralei as blair but i figured Catty would fit best#idk Toralei can appear somewhere in it#im thinking medusa would be Komos#from the live action#but that also makes me think of Jackson as Crona????#I'll watch more soul eater to figure it out because both Frankie and Jackson have a lot of potential for Crona#maybe Jackson as Crona and Frankie is the one who befriends him the most?#because obviously Drac would be the one befriending Frankie#because shes Maka#i always ramble in these monster high posts#catty noir#victor frankenstein#draculaura#the comic thingy is a joke btw#its just poking fun at the way spirit and stein act a lot of the time#like the smoking scene™#anyway thats more than enough tags#monster high
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"Have my murderous machinations deprived you also, my dearest Henry, of life? Two I have already destroyed; other victims await their destiny: but you, Clerval, my friend, my benefactor—"
#time to be sad about fictional gay people again#everytime I read this chapter I think it will be fine but everytime it is very much not fine#fun(?) fact:the reference for this was a scene from the 1919 movie anders als die anderen because I like combining things that make me cry#frankenstein#the modern prometheus#frankenstein weekly#victor frankenstein#henry clerval#clervalstein#frankenstein fanart#art
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this afternoon i saw the closing show of nick dear's frankenstein at the seacoast repertory theatre in portsmouth nh and i had a glass of wine at intermission and being the rarely-drinks lightweight i am i definitely had a different.... attitude, towards the second half of the show. obviously. but i wasn't like that far gone that i wasn't paying attention or anything. and i don't think a lot about frankenstein all the time; i've read it twice (ten years ago in school and then reread it about five years ago). it's like not my favorite but i like it; it's just more of a philosophical novel than a oh-i-love-the-plot-and-characters sort of thing in my opinion. doesn't really matter that's just my two cents. i certainly have thoughts on the way it was adapted for the stage bc nick dear made some creative choices that i wouldn't have, but obviously that's all well and good.
but when the show ended and my wine was chugged and the lights went up i sat there in between my two friends for a second and we exchanged words i just said: "everyone always argues about who the 'real' monster in the story is, but victor frankenstein and the creation... belong together" and this lady walking in the aisle beside us said "i thought the same thing too." she's right too and i'm glad we're both right
#frankenstein and the creation should kiss and be gay#text post#mary shelley#the stage version opens up after the creation is already born and basically starts w him meeting de lancey and learning to write and read#again that was another interesting choice to me bc that part always felt very short to me rather than something that necessarily needed#to be focused on early. idk. i understand the choice#but anyway as a consequence. the relationship between frankenstein and elizabeth has like no backstory#frankenstein's character and family is very much reduced to its bare essentials#it suffers from clunky expositional dialogue a lot. like i get it but yeah#it flattens elizabeth's character (even though she's hardly what i would call a 'strong female character' anyway)#it's kind of attempted to be made up for by making elizabeth more longing for victor explicitly#both just to be around him and sort of just begging for him to marry her and make a baby w her#like the sexuality of elizabeth is definitely played up in this adaptation. idk it's not a wrong choice#but i think it's not necessarily like. fleshing her out like it seems to be trying to#it kind of if anything makes her feel more dependent on victor. to me#but i thought the make-me-a-bride suplot was pretty well handled#and since the stage version essentially destroys both victor and the creation's depth and relationship to their women#it's like just that much more obvious how much the creation really needs and loves victor. in his monstruous way#they should kiss and be gay they really should just kiss and be gay
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Yes while Victor DID dream of kissing his cousin on the lips, when awake he doesn't seem to be maintaining this kind of romantic feelings that much. Maybe partly due to this being said in retrospect, or maybe because he doesn't really see her as a romantic partner. I haven't read many books with romance in them lately to compare (been reading Moby Dick, 20k Leagues, Jekyll And Hyde) but comparing the, contrary to popular belief, evident attraction between Jonathan and Mina, or between Marcus and Cosette (though in a different context) it reads are less romantic to me.
To be honest, I forgot about any such scene. So I looked it up, and, well...
At length lassitude succeeded to the tumult I had before endured; and I threw myself on the bed in my clothes, endeavouring to seek a few moments of forgetfulness. But it was in vain: I slept indeed, but I was disturbed by the wildest dreams. I thought I saw Elizabeth, in the bloom of health, walking in the streets of Ingolstadt. Delighted and surprised, I embraced her; but as I imprinted the first kiss on her lips, they became livid with the hue of death; her features appeared to change, and I thought that I held the corpse of my dead mother in my arms; a shroud enveloped her form, and I saw the grave-worms crawling in the folds of the flannel.
Yeah, there's a reason this scene didn't stick in my memory as 'Victor dreams about kissing Elizabeth' so much as 'Victor has pretty revealing nightmares about the things on his mind'. This kiss doesn't seem romantic to me at all.
Elizabeth is very clearly overlapping his mother here - quite literally, she turns into her. I think that points to a couple things.
First, Elizabeth greeted with a first kiss = Victor meeting his mother's final wishes (on her deathbed some of the final words were that she had always hoped to be made happy by seeing Victor and Elizabeth married).
And yet his kiss is the kiss of death, killing her = reflecting Victor's horror over what he's done, the Creature he created being something monstrous to his eyes (also foreshadowing how his relationship to her will put her in danger along with his other loved ones, but that's meta knowing how things with him and the Creature turn out)
Elizabeth becomes his mother's corpse as she dies = again the preoccupation with his mother. One of his stated goals was to eventually master bringing back the dead, and he embarked on this study not long after her death, so the link there feels pretty easy to make for me. After his 'failure' to make the beautiful human he imagined this now seems out of his reach too, and he's still grieving.
He wakes up shuddering and then Creature is looming over him... it all ties in much more to his feelings about what he has just done than his feelings about/for Elizabeth, in my eyes. The happy impulse doesn't read to me like genuine romantic feelings but more just the idea of a happier reality (the one his mother longed for).
I mean, Frankenstein is definitely not a romance, but neither are Dracula and Les Miserables. But they feature a romantic relationship, whereas in my opinion the role of Elizabeth and Victor's relationship is much more bound up in ideals and expectations and familial love than anything romantic.
#frankenstein weekly#elizabeth lavenza#victor frankenstein#anonymous#replies#of course your mileage may vary but that's how i read it#disclaimer that i don't remember cosette and marcus's relationship very well but i'm just going along with the examples you gave me#(definitely agree on jonmina obviously)#(and it's not about cosette/marcus specifically i just read les mis when i was 11 and not since. i don't have the best memory#so i'm basically going in mostly blind with the substack)#frankenstein spoilers#not really i don't think but just to be safe. more an implied thing that makes sense already where we're at. but still
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do you think victor frankenstein is more mage of light or more bard of doom
oh god robo you threw a tough one at me ,,,,
my initial instinct tells me that victor’s aspect is light because of its main association with knowledge , of course. and him being a mage makes sense because he knows how smart he is and ends up able to get to where he wants by manipulating that knowledge. but. there’s also the association with luck in the light aspect. which. i cant in good conscience say that victor manipulates (or even has) good luck throughout the book ,,,,, even if a mage still takes on the negative effects of their aspects. there’s just. he’s not benefiting from knowledge or luck ultimately.
i think bard of doom is more fitting for him. 
while i wouldnt inherently call his destruction/fate passive… it was unintentional , which works pretty well with a bard. everything he does somehow fucks shit up worse. AND there is the added bonus w doom aspect being that he does sorta have a dream of doom with his dream about elizabeth and caroline right after brining The Creation to life ,,,,
frankenstein also is just. the story is a tragedy. things end poorly. victor , and everyone around him , is doomed because of his actions. so i would say with some confidence i would call victor a bard of doom
#more of moth#frankenstein#homestuck#i got so giddy seeing this in my inbox#i have never had the chance to crossover these two interests#the autism is working hard tonight boys#ALSO DISCLAIMER IM NOT AN EXPERT CLASSPECTER#i’m familiar with classpects but i also just like to have fun when assigning classpects to characters.#but i do think he’s a bard of doom. my poor little doomed meow meow#victor frankenstein#frankenstein weekly#the modern prometheus#classpect#this is gonna jumpscare some people in the frankenstein tags sorry guys#TY FOR THE ASK THO TOO ROBO#i enjoyed this so much. making me think.
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I CANNOT STOP THINKING ABOUT FRANKENSTEIN! ! ! ! !
#victor frankenstein#i think i have a problem#literally i just think he’s kinda a hottie#crazy scientist man makes A Guy???#sign me up#love when the consequences return#gotta love men with consequences#he should shower though i bet he hasn’t showered since he made creature
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