#ventus theories

[blue-eli]

Skuld in quantum design :)

[gulava]

I'm going to become a virus and overwrite the program that is this world's future.

[roxasboxas]

to this day i am still losing my mind over Ven being teased prior to his introduction with lines from Xigbar "He always used to give me that exact same look" (to Sora, who's got Ven's heart in) and "Why is it that you always have to glare at me like that/you always look at me like I killed your goldfish" (to Xion, who's got Ven's face on) and then when he's properly introduced in BBS the two have. one line of dialogue in terms of interaction.

and THEN. THEN KH3 is like "Xigbar is Luxu! From the keyblade war!" and we're like "oh so Luxu and Ventus are going to have interactions in KHUX then?" and the dev team is like "nope! :)" so to this day they still only have that one bit in BBS. what are you hiding Nomura whats their deal

[oveliagirlhaditright]

Talking About Untrue KH Theories of Mine for Fun - 1

As we wait for KH news, in this never ending drought (or so it seems), I thought I might do a video series about this (kind of akin to the thread on TV Tropes about) it, to kill the time:)

Major thanks go to both kh-vids.net and KHInsider for the clips that I was able to use here.

[hollowwhisperings]

Naminé & Roxas Are Twins

(this meta was inspired by @violethowler's Constructing Kingdoms series on YT)

In KH2, the relationship between Sora & Roxas is seemingly paralleled with that of Naminé & Kairi. It is explained by characters in-game that Naminé, a Nobody, must have been created by Kairi's presence in Sora's Heart during KH1. Thusly is it concluded that Naminé must be the Nobody of Kairi, another facet of that Princess of Heart.

Except... Kairi is a Princess of Heart: a being of pure light, without any Darkness of her own. It is physically impossible for Naminé to be Kairi's Nobody.

At no point has Kairi exhibited the capacity to hold Darkness. Kairi's lack of Darkness is, arguably, one of the major reasons for her lack of combat prowess: without "darkness" of her own, Kairi is unable to feel the selfishness needed to hurt others. This is a small, fundamental kind of Darkness that all living things carry: without it, a Princess of Heart is all too essily incapacitated by selflessness.

Naminé isn't (can't) be Kairi's Nobody: she, like Roxas, is a Nobody of Sora & Ventus. Naminé and Roxas are twins.

Roxas and Naminé are unlike any other Nobody within the KH setting: they alone were capable of developing "selfhood", independently from their Hearts of origin. This is due to the many unique circumstances of their birth: Sora's self-sacrifice in KH1. That event featured multiple oddities likely to affect Sora's Heart, Heartless & the Nobodies created: self-sacrifice (love); heartlessness via keyblade; the specific keyblade used (the Keyblade of [People's] Hearts); the origin of said keyblade (Riku the ???, the person Sora likely loved most at the time); the presence of Kairi, a Princess of Heart, within Sora's Heart; the presence of Ventus, an artificial "Princess of Heart"; the location of the sacrifice (Ansem's Lab in Hollow Bastion, a World fallen to Darkness)... and likely even more factors, known & as yet unaddressed.

As twin Nobodies to Sora's Heartless, Roxas & Naminé were affected by all variables noted above. Sora has been the Host of several Hearts for his entire life: that makes him special, even before Riku chose Sora to be a keyblade wielder. I venture that the Heart most relevant to Naminé's birth was not Kairi's but Ven's: for where Roxas most resembles Sora in disposition, Naminé resembles Ventus-without-Vanitas. Kairi's presence within Sora's Heart had effects, yes, but less than perhaps understood.

The misunderstanding, I argue, comes largely from Kairi's longterm role of "Designated Female": as the lone KH-original female for much of KH's early development (& popularity), Kairi is often considered a "default option" with regards to all things feminine. This feeds not only into assumptions of a Kairi-focused love triangle but also into an overinflation of Kairi's presence in the story.

As with Xion, Naminé's true identity is obscured, in-game & within fandom, by her gender: "Xion & Naminé are female; the only female in proximity to this plotline is Kairi: Xion & Naminé must therefors be derivative personas of Kairi".

Here, as always, Kairi serves as a convenient "default" of femininity, misdirecting players and characters from the queer potential within KH. It is wholly believed, by Sora & the girls in question, that Naminé was Kairi's Nobody. Yet, it is never Kairi whose story and character is most expanded by Naminé's involvement: Naminé's story is, instead, a follow-up to that of BBS's Ventus.

Kairi struggles with a forgotten past, loss & a resistance to change (of "growing up"). Naminé, in parallel & in contrast, experiences the kind of life that Kairi has forgotten: [medical abuse], extortion & isolation. Naminé's time with Organization XIII & with DiZ mirrors that of VEN's with Master Xehanort (&, to a lesser degree, with Master Eraqus).

Kairi's history as a test subject of Xehanort &, possibly, of Ansem the Wise? She's forgotten it and, outside of Melody of Memories, we never get to see how it affected her.  Kairi's Ambiguously Traumatic Past is only ever used for her in her role as "MacGuffin" (i.e. an object of plot importance & no other story-relevant function, one that is ultimately interchangeable with). Kairi's story barely affects Naminé's & Naminé's doesn't affect Kairi's either: the characters most changed by Naminé's character arc were Sora & Riku. This further alludes to Naminé not truly originating from Kairi's Darkness but from Sora-Ven.

The duality of Sora-Ven is reflected in Sora's producing two distinct ("twin") Nobodies during KH1. Roxas is most reflective of Sora but physically looks like Ventus; Naminé is most reminiscent of Ventus-without-Vanitas but (allegedly) "looks like Kairi": this does not occur in the Nobodies of other hybrid-beings, as evident in Xemnas (Terra & Xehanort) & Xigbar (Braig & Luxu). In this way, Naminé & Roxas are more akin to Xion than most every other Nobody.

Ignoring the gender binaries (canonically used & assumed in-universe), the characters that Naminé actually resembles are Ventus (who I propose as Naminé's "primary" origin) & Xion (another artificial being with Sora Origins).

Narratively & thematically, Naminé's arc from CoM to KH2 was a continuation of Ven's story in Birth By Sleep. Both characters are strongly tied to themes of isolation, abusive authority figures, and artificial life. While other characters - Xion, Repliku & Terra-Xehanort - also explore these themes, Kairi notably does not.

I will note that Naminé does not NEED to be Kairi's Nobody to act as her narrative foil: I just find that identifying Naminé with Kairi is buying into the very same (false) Binaric Gender Roles that CoM, Days & (to a lesser extent) BBS sought to poke holes in. Tiny, easily mistranslated-into-nonexistence holes but holes nonetheless. Attempting to conflate Naminé with Kairi is to give the latter character more narrative presence than she truly has, in an effort to reconcile the two together beyond "similarly aged females in proximity to KH's plot".

[thetrashthatsmilesback]

I have an idea that is in a similar vein to the theory that Sora was the Lich in KH3, but differs slightly - I think Sora can take on the darkness (or feed on the light possibly? I think its one of two) of others' hearts. This theory mostly hinges on how Sora takes on the pain of Ven, Roxas, and Xion. For some reason I can't find the screenshot, but I am in class so my searching skills aren't fully devoted at the moment. I'll run through cutscenes eventually, but basically I'm thinking of the scene where Sora says he is taking on the burden/pain of those in his heart.

Throughout the series, Sora has had a unique ability to hold others in his heart, it's the basis of the "Sora is the Lich" theory from kh3. This leads me to wonder about the actual mechanics of him taking on not only hearts, but specifically hearts in pain on the verge of death.

Sora isn't the only one in the series with hyperempathy, notably both Baldr and Xehanort both experience the ability that Sora has of feeling other's pain across unbelievable stretches. Both of these fell to darkness due to the extreme feelings they were experiencing- to take on another's pain is to eventually overwhelm yourself and fall. It's possible that Sora has yet to have this occur due to the nature of the hearts within him - namely Ventus and Kairi, the hearts of pure light.

When playing kh3, you do not have to use rage form until the forced moment at Kairi's death. Prior to that moment, it is entirely optional, almost as if Sora is able to hold himself back from falling into it. While his rage over Kairi's death would make sense after everything he had just done to save everyone, it's also notable that the only instance of forced rage form is after Ventus is gone from Sora's heart.

Many have commented on how sora's darkness has grown through the games, and I'm the past I've wondered if the growing darkness also aligning with how close we are to Ventus waking up are connected, and I'm beginning to believe firmly that they are. I think that Sora is able to draw on the dominant power of the hearts around him in order to maintain balance of light and dark within his heart. As Ven grew closer to waking up, his heart of pure light was strengthening and healing- and in tandem sora's darkness grew. He took on the hearts of Roxas and Xion, both of which would hold some darkness, which makes me wonder if their hearts were helping contribute darkness to keep sora's in balance while holding Ventus's.

If someone with the hyperempathy only takes on the darkness of others' hearts, then they are more susceptible to being overcome by darkness, but if Sora has been slowly taking on both dark and Ventus's light, then it could explain why he has kept from overloading with darkness thus far despite all his trauma. "My friends are my power," what if they really are - what if Sora can literally draw light or darkness from those around him. Sorry if this was rambling or incoherent, I haven't slept.

[rosie-kairi]

Question for my fellow khux-players/members of the fandom since before it ended!

Not including Ephemer because he was never really a "suspect". Lauriam's also out because I think a majority of people thought he was the traitor until the Sibling reveal lol

[evaundertale]

A post no one asked for but I wanted to share.

So I got inspired off of seeing a couple if Venkai posts so imma post my take on it. Might do the same for Soriku, Kailette and more.

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So Venkai. This is straight up just a post off headcanons and how I view the ship can work I know it's a rarepair and most don't talk about it much.

This mainly will have headcanons and theories on what could possibly grow and how I personally see the ship.

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Okay let's start with Ventus. As we know Ventus was in Union X and probably got sent forward in time.

We also know he is often considered a kid or at least treated like one.

Not only from Aqua and Terra but people that could be around his age like Isa and Lea.

And Kairi may not be treated like a kid by her friends but is more often left behind for her protection. They both are often treated like their fragile.

From Aqua trying to get Ventus to go home instead of following Terra and to both Sora and Riku both leaving Kairi behind on different occasions.

This person made a better comparison on the Riku and Kairi scene with the Ventus and Aqua scene.

Now you may wonder why I brought up Ventus age. It's mainly because I don't think he aged sense he was awake in BBB.

From him going into Sora's heart and been asleep. I think by kh 1 is when Ventus might have started getting his consciousness back.

Maybe due to Kairi's heart joining his in Sora's heart or Ventus sensing Sora in danger due to the islands fall.

I don't think he's fully conscious till like DDD or Kh 3 due to us seeing him being slightly more active.

We know that Roxas already impacted Sora emotionally in Kh 2 so we can't say Ventus didn't or couldn't either especially with these moments.

In DDD Ventus armor protects Sora with in kh 3 Sora doesn't even know what comes over him when he says he'll save Aqua.

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Why do I bring this up? It's because I think Venkai as a ship is in the same area of Katara and Aang from ATLA.

Aang was in the iceberg for 100 years but his body and mind are still 12 he didn't age both mentally or physically.

Long story short Ventus is in a similar situation to Aang with his aging.

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Now back to Venkai okay so we know Aqua put a charm on Kairi as a kid to protect and lead her to those who could protect her.

And most say she went to Sora but I'd argue she went to Riku and Sora both. As you may know related to how much I reblog this I think Riku is the light (not just Sora's) but others as well with Aqua and Terra both stating as such when looking at him as a kid.

But not saying much to Sora. Yes Ventus came to Sora's heart seeking shelter but that's due to him already making a connection to a new heart which is Sora's.

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So if Kairi showed up to the Island not having a connection to Sora or Riku yet. Kairi still was sent to seek both the keyblade when sent out but also to find a safe place because the charm.

She probably appeared because Ventus being in Sora's heart and because Riku's heart to.

With Kairi being a princess of heart she could probably recognize darkness and light in a person's heart.

With Kairi in kh 1 stating Riku had changed but not really giving much context and telling Sora not to change. Maybe she felt both the light of Ventus and Sora's ad comfort sense Riku heart was change.

We know Darkness has a scent sense Riku has recognized it before but don't really know if the princess of heart are able to sense a hearts intention I'd assume based how Kairi reacts sometimes to people. We only get to see that side of the princesses through Kairi.

That being said Kairi could have grown a close connection to Sora through the light in Sora's heart (aka Ventus)

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Finally at least this is what I picked up that could have happened if Ventus started to grow conscious again in kh 1 he already has a connection to Kairi through the time she was in Sora's heart.

Meaning that Kairi and Ventus would have a sense of familiarity with eachother not saying it'd go full on romance but in her time of training with Aqua they could grow to be close.

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Both relating in being treated like their fragile. Or how they both were treated like pawns in Xehannorts plan. Or even how they both have memorie issues.

There is alot to work with especially sense Ventus heart is probably still mainly the light side of it sense Vanitas (his darkness) is no longer able to fit there.)

Now that could be like that cause Ventus heart grew darkness back in its missing place. Or Ventus could have a heart full of pure light similar to Kairi's.

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Now into full on fanon side i know most compare Ava and Gula to Sokai but the possibility of them being a great reference for Venkai is there to.

I just think you could honestly build Kairi and Ventus future interactions based off these two.

Not only in similar body shapes but with how the two interact. We've never really gotten and opportunitie to see Kairi fully protect Sora the same way he does for her and if it's cause she hasn't felt confident enough to or cause they might not be as connected as she thought there's a chance she might fot someone else.

(Yes I know in kh 1 she trys to protect Sora in his heartless form but that was once and yes she held him together in the new world but he also got a second change cause of Riku's sacrifice.)

What I mean by protecting Sora is like how much he does by blocking her from attacks or more we don't see that which sucks. And we already know their bond was weakened to begin with.

There's a chance they might just keep growing apart. And in that absence she might grow with other.

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I'm rambling a bit near the end but yeah that's at least my view on venkai and if it ever develops platonically or romantically or whatever i due think the two have a lot of parallels and more to their connection then most think about.

Next probably gonna be a post about Kailette. Or maybe a post about how I view Riku and Kairi's friendship but yeah.

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Extra ramble

There's alot more that could be speculated like this not only being Kairi recognizing this but also Ventus sense he visited it and we know he got memory issues to its a stretch but still interesting to think about.

There's also the case that Ventus fully appears in Sora's heart to ask questions in DDD when Riku is trying to wake Sora up. This is more to the point that Ventus probably wasn't fully aware/conscious until later on in Sora's heart.

My theory is still gonna stick with him beginning to wake up in kh 1.

[kosmic-arts]

The Great BBS Headcanon Text Dump

i have a bunch of bbs character headcanons id like to get out my system. im going to start with eraqus because i think he's boring asf. (plot twist: theyre all boring asf) anyway, wouldn't it be cool if eraqus' intentions and motivations were more obviously grey from the getgo? he loves his kids sure, but he just doesn't make for a good father. his priorities don't lie with them, but rather how best he can mold them into effective soldiers. eraqus hasn't really moved on from the first keyblade war, and has kind of occupied himself with trying to restore the old keyblade order, and figuratively go back in time. i think it would be more entertaining if there was more friction between eraqus and terra from the start. terra is also boring asf, and i want to rewrite him. i imagine him as being more of an openminded guy by default. he likes to question things and doesn't always do what he's told. he likes to know the whys and whatfors, and if it doesn't makes sense, he's going to argue. terra doesn't really plan things out, and is a lot better at just improvising solutions. he just kind of goes with the flow(haha do you get it). i like to imagine that terra out of everyone would vouch the most for ven to be allowed to go on missions with him and aqua, rather than being cooped up at home. i think terra and eraqus would butt heads on this a lot, and terra would eventually start to see through eraqus' reasoning and become a bit more aware that he and his friends are more tools than children to eraqus. i think it would be cute if terra maybe promises to take ven with him to search for more keyblade wielders after he becomes a master. even if eraqus objects, once they hold the same rank and title, eraqus will have no choice but to listen to him. terra wants ven to see the stars and get to make friends, and even if ven isn't as strong as the rest of them, he'll always protect him! on the flip side- aqua. if it weren't for all the drama she goes though, you too would realize just how stiff and boring she actually is. i want to rewrite her, she has so much potential.... aqua is a know-it-all? smart, powerful, follows orders without question; the model soldier, and eraqus doesn't do a good job of hiding his favoritism towards her. although they're mature enough to handle the connotations, it does create a bit of a rift between aqua and terra. aqua is super protective over ven- she babies him, but is unknowingly stunting his growth even further because she can't bear to let him out of her sight. it's something terra and aqua argue about a lot, as terra is more inclined to let ven learn and get hurt and actually do things on his own, while aqua wants to protect him from everything. in opposition to terra, i like to think aqua is an excellent planner- always 20 steps ahead and is highly resourceful, but when the plans fall though, aqua cannot handle the subsequent disaster. she finds comfort in rules and order, and really struggles to function off a script. even around strangers, she cannot do smalltalk and genuinely struggles to socialize, especially in large groups. shes a lot more shy than youd think! comparatively, terra is a lot more easygoing. terra and aqua press at eachother a lot, as their ways of thinking are completely at odds. still, they fill in for a lot of their own deficiencies which allows them to both have room for conflict but also still come together, because ofc, theyre the best of siblings and they all want the same thing: become keyblade masters, protect the worlds from darkness, protect eachother- and most of all, ven.

speaking of ven. it took ventus some time to recover from getting his heart cut in half, but he should've sustained lasting consequences. i mean like, a person's heart is basically their soul. kind of a big deal, right?? i like to imagine ven probably had worse stamina, poor health, and maybe even his physical growth was stunted. think of like, an extension of how roxas was towards the end of days when xion was draining his powers. ven probably couldn't train as frequently as terra and aqua, and as such, lagged behind significantly in his progress. eraqus probably tried for a while to see if they could work around ven's condition, but over time would give ventus special lessons maybe to help him strengthen his control over light; being essentially pure of heart, albeit by artificial means, ven has strong light powers by default and i think eraqus would find that invaluable to nurture especially since the prospects of ven ever becoming a master was becoming more and more of an impossibility. by the time terra and aqua were getting ready to essentially graduate, i feel like eraqus would throw in the towl with the keyblade training and have to break the news that ven would never be a keyblade master. wouldn't that be crazy?? i imagine that ven probably put two-and-two together on his own, but has been trying as hard as he can anyway because he's afraid of being left behind and becoming nothing more than a liability to his friends... eraqus would be particularly protective of ven, out of love of course, but also because ven's unique condition and subsequent light powers make him an especially effective as a soldier. ven is essentially doomed to become a princess locked up in a castle, but as much as he keeps asking for a chance to leave, he's gradually starting to lose faith in himself and doesn't really have the courage to leave home anymore. and thats why ventus should've been kidnapped by vanitas in the beginning of the game instead of chasing after terra, and then wandering around like an idiot for his entire 10hr route. wouldn't it have been fun and made the plot more urgent and maybe more parallel to kh1 if the gang were searching for ventus the whole time? rather than ven being analogous to sora, he really should've been representative to kairi. vanitas couldve easily snatched ven at the start of bbs when terra is about to leave, and hell, maybe from the getgo eraqus is like- "it must be xehanort: terra, aqua, if you see him run tf away hes evil because darkness." it wouldve been a much smarter move for the characters to have been made aware of xehanort's evil from the start, because us the players were aware of it from the start. its silly to watch the characters get stringed along for a whole game on a plot twist you already know is going to happen. it also wouldve opened the doors for xehanort to really show how cunning and manipulative he can be if manages to convince the characters to his reasoning, despite them knowing hes bad. it would be even better if xehanort was convincing enough to even get players to at least be like "hm well he has a point 🤔". that would make him a little scarier i think. also. wouldn't it be more interesting if like, terra at first worried when his heart starts to lean towards darkness, actually learns to control it and be more comfortable with it. just. by himself? wouldnt it be more fun and a bit more obvious instead of mildly implied that terra's heart is so much stronger than xehanort expected, and terra just masters his darkness all on his own??? it would be cool. i like xehanort being an evil mastermind, but i want to see him fuck up sometimes?? he severely underestimates terra, and pays the price- losing his entire sense of self when he tries to bodysnatch terra and they effectively tie in their battle against eachother and their hearts merge or whatever to become ansem. xehanort fucked it up! would be cool... anyway. i just wanted to get all my thoughts out my head. istg bbs is so boring and mediocre i drives my brain crazy trying to fill in a blank canvas.

[kh-yumio]

There's a bunch of stuff I wanna do for the Dreaming Memories AU but I just can't find the right moment to sit down and work on it orz

[theladyheroine]

Kingdom Hearts x New Princesses 👑

Okay! This next KH4 post is about the new princesses of heart! Now I know there were alot of princesses in the last few games, although most of them were from the classic Renaissance movies. But since KH3 we learned that there are some new princesses joining the games! So here is my list of who might be the new 7 Hearts in KH4!

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🐻 Merida : Okay this one is more for me lol, since I think Merida is really cool! But since KH is diving into more Pixar worlds and movies, it would kind of make sense to put her in KH4. The way I think the KH gang(s) might meet Merida is if they happen to see her at the archery contest first. They see the contest happening and how amazing she is at archery. So, after the contest, they decide to head into town and ask around. Maybe to ask for information about Sora, or perhaps Kairi feels a connection coming from the castle. Since what I've gathered from the games is that Kairi still is a PoH? But anywho, Merida runs away, and boom! Movie plot happens!

I can feel this kind of route going similar to the Tangled world, where the gang gets separated from Merida for a little bit. But then they run into Mama Bear Elenor and find out what happened. I feel like having the player saving everyone from Mord'u when Merida finds the castle ruins would be an intersting fight, or maybe there would be a mini-game where you have to help Merida catch fish in the river. Although I can see the main point of this plotline being where the player has to help change Merida's mom back. With either Mord'u or even King Fergus as a boss fight near the end.

🌊 Moana : Okay this one I've seen everywhere, and I can see why this would make a cool world in KH! Moana is a really popular princess and she has such a cool story that I feel would fit Kingdom Hearts really well! I can imagine going similar to POTC world, where the gang ends up in the middle of the ocean. Although maybe instead of finding an island or finding Moana, they accidently arrive at the Realm of Monsters tower and fall in. Soon after, they find Maui and Moana and you have to fight Tamatoa. I can imagine that being a pretty crazy fight.

As for mini-games and special mechanics added to this world, one has to be sailing. That's the main mode of transport so maybe it can be similar to the Pirates of the Carribean world, but instead of a ship you have to maneuver Moana's boat. As well as take a look at the correct constellations in the sky so can move in the right direction. Kinda of like a "find-the-clue" game except with a starry sky! Although, as another boss fight, or maybe even a mini-boss, you have to outrun the Kakamora who are throwing coconuts or little arrow thingies at you.

🪶 Pocahontas : This one I’m kinda excited for too! Seeing as, in my opinion, Pocahontas is super underrated. Plus, it'd be cool seeing Sora and the gang dressed up like formal English men/women arriving on the ship! Although, since I don’t want a repeat of Moana or Jack Sparrow’s world maybe instead of arriving on a ship, they just kind of show up in the forest? Or by the camp and get mistaken for some do the crew mates? 😅 I feel that would make sense but it would also be cooler so have everyone meet Pocahontas first.

However, it would be interesting to get another forestry area or exploring along the rivers would be cool. I think it's been awhile since we had once other than Winnie the Pooh; I know we had Arendelle and Corona but I mean a world that's all vegetation! Such as the Deep Jungle or the Enchanted Domain, those ones were so amazing looking! Plus they looked like larger terrains so I feel like there's more to explore. Although, if we further look into mini-games for this world, I'm not really sure? Especially since the Pocahontas plot is a little more serious than most Disney Princess movies.

🍬 Vanellope : Okay this prompt won't be too long, but this one I feel is just a guess as well? I saw a video on YouTube saying that since Wreck-It-Ralph was a supporting summon in KH3, we might see Game Central Station at some point. And I can agree with it that would be awesome! But for some reason I feel it's kind of a stretch to have Vanellope be a Princess of Heart?? I think?

🐸 Tiana: This one I have to put on here and I can almost guarantee Tiana is going to be in the next KH game! She's one of the last princesses to get a classic 2D movie, so it would be so magical to explore New Orleans and the Bayou! Plus, even though this setting takes place in modern day-ish America, it still has the colorful atmosphere that fits the Kingdom Hearts vibe perfectly! Plus, it would be funny to see the main cast as animals again like in the Lion King. Not necessarily frogs but other woodland or swampy critters!

Now I feel most of this section of the game would be navigation as well since Tiana and her friends have to get through the swamp in the movie. But I feel entering the Mardi-Gras would be pretty fun, maybe even at the end for dancing like in Rapunzel's world! Although, unfortunately that's all I can think of at the moment...

[gulava]

The Kingdom Key and Soul Eater breaking Ventus's heart station in the KH BBS Opening

[luridaemos]

i have a theory that maybe vanitas is actually sora's darkness now that was know he's not ven's..?

it's been in my mind for so long for so so so long but when you realize that kingdom hearts 1 when sora turns into a shadow all kairi does is return his form back to normal, right? right.

returns him to normal BUT he's still just a heartless. he's just a heart like ansem. end of kh1 is just humanoid heartless vs humanoid heartless right? right.

so it's not until kh2 when he meets up with roxas and he returns that sora is completed right? bc that was the whole point, sora wasn't complete so that's why xion and roxas had to go back it wasn't just his memories but sora himself. right.

so that whole time during 2 sora has anti form up until the end, which essentially is him using too much power and essentially fluctuating between his heartless form and himself. nomura himself confirmed it's due to becoming a heartless in 1 and that story-wise it's due to using too much power... it represents his darkness. right.

he also said that rage form is something different to anti-form. that it's representative of his anger. emotions.

and yknow who shows up in 3 when that debuted? the man of emotions himself:

so all this just to say i've been thinking about how both ven and van are from years into the past, and that vanitas ultimately wasn't ventus' to begin with. (ventus was a being of pure light if I'm understanding correctly.)

vanitas' form was created before either of them met sora too. it's stated that vanitas was removed from ventus and then ventus then went to meet sora. so where did vanitas' form actually come from?

it's possible that:

ventus was able to transform him into a sora clone simply because fate said so, it was always meant to happen like the closed loop for heart ansem sending young xehanort to scala.

ventus somehow was able to alter vanitas' form after the removal while inside of sora's heart

vanitas' form looked like this before the Darkness hivemind was separated/fragmented

so i'm thinking if Sora continues to have the rage form ability or some kind of upgraded emotion-based darkness form... maybe it's related to vanitas somehow? either something removed from sora and sent into the past or something that grows from sora and into something like vanitas? it very well could just be that vanitas' return, sora's rage form, their confrontation being in monsters inc which has swapped to "this ships runs on happy faces" + yeeting vanitas, sora seeing vanitas' face, sora refusing to accept that vanitas chose to be darkness is all just to show the player sora's emotional state.

that sora himself refuses to acknowledge the darkness' that he harbors could be bad in any way, avoids confronting his negative emotions properly, and feeding into the toxic positivity that he's carried since the first game...

but idk i think it'd be really interesting if that's a deeper reason for why vanitas looks the way he does. that he could potentially be darkness that sora had cast aside and stuck with ventus long enough to essentially become intertwined with him. idk i also kind of think this could go along with MoM's whole thing of wanting to get as far away from Darkness as possible. sora's on a path to rejecting darkness in his heart, but with guidance from riku who went through accepting his own it's possible that maybe sora's meant to be the one to accept vanitas as he is instead of ventus.

if anyone has thoughts about this lemme know, i'd love to see others thoughts

[royalberryriku]

I have so many thoughts about Namine and Ventus rn but all I'll say is potential parallel between Namine and Strelitzia, and how this could mean Namine is in danger of the same things repeating or just having some sort of future parallel associated with Strelitzia.

Particularly with how Namine is connected to the Book of Prophecies like we see with Jiminy's Journal in Coded (imo maybe because Kairi is a princess of heart and has some sort of connection to the OG X-Blade and maybe Lux and all that??), but especially just the concept that maybe Kairi, Ventus and Namine will all be the ones in more danger form Darkness and how this, specifically, may offer a way for Repliku and Vanitas to return of their own volition, potentially from the Realm of Darkness since it was made more or less clear that dark beings go there when defeated (Maleficent and Repliku post Chain of Memories for example). Though as for how one would do this, seeing as Vexen stated that escaping by yourself is almost impossible, I still can't help but wonder. Especially seeing how much it would work with their development as characters and actually pushing them to consider if they really don't want to exist or if they do but want to escape the pain of their circumstances. It would also work well with exploring how darkness can be a way for hearts to protect itself from breaking/ being harmed: like how anger born from fear is literally just the fight reaction of fight or flight, and just generally the whole "light within darkness; darkness within light" analogy.

This is very unorganised but I have a lot of thoughts here and I'm just very. Thinky rn at around 12:30am-ish lmao

[hgmason-hellion]

Art dump art dump

(Okay wait it's gonna be two posts because I am a mess)

[thetrashthatsmilesback]

I honestly think there's a connection between Sora's darkness becoming progressively bigger through the games, and narratively us getting closer to Ven's awakening.