#vel's headcanons

[mogai-hotel-boss]

[ID: A set of 4 images in 2 pairs. The left image in each pair has an image of the listed Hazbin Hotel character, with a white outline and a translucent black drop shadow, in front of their corresponding flags. The right image in each pair is a blank flag splice. ID end]

Charlie Morningstar is a futch canonically bi/sapphic (WLW) daegender demon who is dating Vaggie, a femme canonically lesbian/sapphic (WLW) angeligender fallen angel.

[y-rhywbeth2]

So, having brought up the headcanon that Durge is sustained by Jergal's essence rather than Bhaal's in the "redemption" ending, there are two options.

The first is that since Bhaal's divine essence is technically a loan from Jergal, Jergal has simply taken it back - it's still the essence of death/murder, but not tied to Bhaal's will. Bhaal can no longer force Durge to act to his will. Jergal can but he tends to be more subtle and doesn't pull his puppets' strings until he "needs to". So in this scenatio Durge is as they ever were, but with apparent free reign of themselves.

The other possibility is that Bhaal fully removed himself from Durge and it was replaced by Jergal's divine essence as God of Fatalism [+orderly death/order in death, proper burial, guardian of tombs, and protection of the names of the dead]. Considering the soul is tied to Bhaal's essence... is this the same soul? The body is still of Bhaal's flesh, it contains his essence still, but it may turn out that this is actually a brand new divine soul shaping itself to the memories...

Regardless of whichever scenario this is, Durge is tied to Jergal rather than Bhaal. Whereas Bhaalspawn are dragged off to Gehenna to join Bhaal, it's most likely that Durge is tied to the Grey Wastes or the Fugue Plane and upon death will disintegrate and possibly reform there.

What are the side effects? Do they stay the same as the regular murderous faire, or are we looking at new ones that come from carrying around a portion of the god of fatalism, causing Durge to manifest his traits?

Has the urge to slay been replaced by a distressing propensity for dead, creepy calm?

Does Durge have an innate connection to the Negative Energy plane now?

Predicting the deaths and afterlives of people you make eye contact with? Can they catch glimpses of a person's life and deeds as a kind of casting divine judgement upon the soul thing?

Bhaalspawn life draining effects wouldn't change much, even though Durge doesn't display any in game.

Do they creep out the living and cause fatigue with their very presence?

I hope they still say weird shit, but instead of the usual murder-murder-murder it's announcing dark fates upon people in the flattest, most indifferent voice ever. Like "thy wheel of fate turns ever to the dark" while there's a party going on about you. - like this: "[Jergal's] tone was deceptively bland and his demeanor excessively formal, even if his words portended horrors unimaginable."

...Ironically Durge is still the vessel of a god obsessed with the end of the world; Jergal just happens to be cataloguing it as it happens, accepting it at its own pace, rather than actively painting the world red. And he expects no grandkids, which is a massive plus.

[velvees-archive]

nothing makes the angst enjoyer in me spark more than the idea of post-canon edgeworth, relieved that phoenix is happy again, slowly realizing that he’s still unsatisfied. that even though he’s repaid the debts he owed phoenix, there’s something missing—something that for years he misconstrued as gratitude, and that which can only be quelled by having what he cannot.

[cheeseanonioncrisps]

Love how Vox and Velvette seem to alternate between portraying themselves as the ‘head’ of their little trio, with Velvette referring to herself as “the backbone of the Vees” and Vox plastering his logo over everything and vehemently denying Alastor's insinuation that he couldn't go on without the other two.

And meanwhile, like… Hells entire cinematic industry seems to mostly centre around porn.

Like, I'm sure there are other films out there (Blitzø has apparently seen Shrek) but the “cinephiles” are all off watching “award winning demon bukkake shows”. And I'd be very surprised if the internet porn industry wasn't also pretty big.

Outside the main three Vees, Angel Dust appears to be the figure most associated with their brand. Not any of Velvette's models or Vox's stars. And posters of Angel appear in the Lust Ring in Ozzies, implying that Val's influence extends outside Pride, something that doesn't seem to be the case for the other Vees.

And the whole reason Vox had to hire Sir Pentious to spy on the hotel is because Val hires so many people that all the randos on the street who might be looking for a quick buck were already working for him. Given how sex-obsessed the culture is generally (and considering that for every pornstar Val hires, he's also going to need several camera people, sound people, set designers, editors, etc.) Val could easily qualify as the biggest employer in Pride.

And if he owns even a fraction of those souls, he'd probably be one of the most powerful Overlords with or without the other two backing him up.

And that's not even getting into the age thing!

All the Media Demons seem to be loosely associated with the era when their chosen form of media got popular.

Vel is the social media demon, and one of the youngest Overlords, seeming to have died in the '10s. Vox is the TV demon and supposedly died in the 1950s. Alastor is the Radio Demon and died in the 1930s.

Photographic porn first became a big thing in the late 1800s. Val's style of dress to me loosely indicates 1910s or 1920s. If we're sticking with the established pattern then Valentino could well be older than Alastor.

What I'm saying is: the reason Valentino seems so much less concerned with the image and branding of the Vees compared to the other two might not just be him being dumb and impulsive.

From his perspective, the whole Vee thing might just be something his boyfriend and best friend are invested in, that he just kinda puts up with (and, heck, probably finances) because it makes them happy and gets him out of Overlord meetings.

Out of the three of them, Val may actually be the one who would be most able to go it alone, and the one who is the main source of their power. Possibly the only reason Vox and Vel even get to argue over who is the top dog in the group is because the actual top dog is too busy with his real business to give much of a shit about their fun side project.

[colleybrifanfics]

“Canon ships are boring” - ?!!

I’ve seen this statement a couple of times, in connection with general debates about Canon vs Fanon. And I’m sure it’s often true of a lot of fics and a lot of source material.

But established Canon relationships, past present or future … boring by definition?

Not on Andor, they’re not. Not remotely. None of them.

On a really well written show, as in a really well written novel, canon relationships can be complex, nuanced, believable, intriguing, inspiring, heartbreaking, sexy, frustrating, toxic, one-sided, racked with insecurity… etc. Just like real life relationships. And so too can be the fiction they inspire.

Vel/Cinta is described by Tony Gilroy as “One of the least complicated relationships in the show.” (Variety )

One of the least complicated! !

Yet it’s so deliciously, painfully, realistically … complicated!. It’s not perfect. Of course it isn’t. That’s the point. Perhaps a fic writer doesn’t have to work hard to invent ways to make it complicated. But you don’t always have to invent; you can explore what’s there. What’s given to you. No need to reinvent the wheel.

I’m one of very few to “ship” the canon Cassian / Bix relationship. (There doesn’t even seem to be a portmanteau for it - Bixcassian probably having to do. ) I think one of the reasons is – they have often been really bad for each other. That’s fair enough – not going to argue with that ! (Though for me, that’s kind of the point .) But sometimes I’ve seen this relationship referred to dismissively as the relatively simple “teenage romance” or “exes to friends” trope. To which I would say – watch the scenes between those two again. Carefully. There’s a lot more to it than that. It’s an extremely messy relationship, but by no means a simple one. And it’s canonically not just a one-off either , as Tony Gilroy is keen to point out.

This wonderful complexity is because of the standard this show’s writing sets. So much is done through subtext. The implication of what is being thought rather than the exact words being said. The way that a single line can imply several pages worth of lesser dialogue or storytelling. The gaps between the words. The silences. Top-notch performances obviously help with that too.

Vel/Cinta epitomises this. So does Cassian/Bix. So does Mon/Perrin (and even the hints of Mon/Tay).

And we’re only just getting started with the deliciously poisonous concoction that is Dedra/Syril. Whatever that is going to start to look like in the second season, I can’t begin to guess. But I’m really enjoying the fics out there that are doing some serious speculating, keeping both characters 100% believable (in terms of recognisably their canon selves) at the same time.

Andor has given us the gift of some incredibly meaty Canon relationships to explore and play with.

⬆️. I mean… need I say more.?!

[ghostr0tz]

Hiii different anon here! Love your content but just wanted to say that I mostly agree with you. I feel like however Vox died, it has something to do with his heart. I personally think he was a corrupt TV host or someone even bigger in the TV industry but he was electrocuted (accident or not) and it made his heart stop. You can hear a heartbeat in the beginning of Stayed Gone, at the elbows of his jacket resembles a heartbeat (also resembles a "V"). His logo too. Val and Vel have hearts on their design, yes, but Vox's heart motif is literal

Hii, yes i like that hc for how he died as well!!

i don't have a solid headcanon on how he died, but i do like the idea fo being a TV host or something similar i feel like thats obvious in the way he presents himself/manifested in Hell..

Thank you for the ask, i wasn't aware of the heartbeat at the beginning of Stayed Gone, I'll have to listen for it next time

[voxasks]

tell velvette she's the hottest member of the Vs for me, kay? you know I'm right.

"fucking he—F̲U̲C̲K̲I̲N̲G̲ ̲H̲E̲L̲L̲!̲ keep that shit to yourself that's embarrassing, no! she's basically a sibling to me, fuck, god, i haven't consumed anything but i need to spit i feel like i've gotten sick don't come near me—goddammit i don't wanna know which direction your dick is swinging right now! go to her blog! what the fuck why are you here god fucking DAMMIT—"

[inkperch]

....oooh really mean thought.

Odette and Odile are names that tend to go in a pair, right?

Odette had a twin once.

There's a reason Angels scare her.

[velvette-hussle]

VELVETTE X FASHION

I love Velvette, don’t get me wrong, but for a fashionista character her outfits (& especially the second hairstyle she has in “RKTVS”) are UGLY even by early 2010’s standards, since that’s the decade I’ve heard theorized that she died during.

Her outfits are also far too boring and plain for a character like her who’s got such a big ego and who’s social media personality and appearance should inspire tons of envy. Even the last dress she picked out for her fashion show when she was magically dressing Melissa looked pretty boring on its own.

Like, I can’t say I miss the more childish aspects of her first design but I do miss the “fun” of it.

I also don’t mind some of her fashion sense still having remnants of the late 2000’s & early 2010’s since that’s when she died and it would make sense that there would be some lingering feelings of nostalgia for those trends, but I do think her style should largely be disgustingly on trend outside of that. I ALSO THINK THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE MORE CULTURALLY BLACK (BRITISH) FASHION TRENDS IMPLEMENTED INTO HER DESIGN & HER HAIRSTYLES.

ALSO SHE SHOULD BE ANIMATED WITH TEXTURED HAIR MORE OFTEN! I’m truly so tired of running into human!fanart of velvette that depicts her as a white woman; I really am. If the show would just buck the fuck up and make her coding more explicit we really wouldn’t be having this problem as predominately.

Regardless, there is no one overriding theme that Velvette’s current design has, but there also isn’t only one theme in her character type or skill set, which is why I love the prospect of her constantly changing outfits so much. Her visual identity on the show is still not dominating enough for my tastes though, which just leaves the impression that someone either couldn’t decide what Velvette should be so just threw everything at the wall or that someone didn’t care enough to be definitive.

There’s only subtle hints at her clown/jester influences in the striped things she wears, the pom-poms on the toes of her shoes, the heart motif throughout her clothes, the ruffle accents in some of her outfits, and her lip art. All of which are fairly subtle and don’t automatically clock her as “clown-like” in a way similar to how you can see the circus influences in Blitzø’s and especially Fizzarolli’s designs. It’s still her strongest design influence though.

Then the hints at the more “witchy” characteristics within her design are even more sparse. She wears a little fedora-ish hat in s1ep8 that could be considered a little witch hat, and maybe the skull earrings she always wears are supposed to be a hint at her being magical too, but that’s pretty much it. Her fangs don’t readily even factor into either of those aesthetics either so they confuse her design even more outside of being a vague reminder that she’s demonic; I will note however, that if any of her other aesthetics were more pronounced in her overall design that her fangs wouldn’t clash or cause confusion as to what exactly she’s supposed to be. Her vests are just kind of there (furred or not). There’s also the aspect of Velvette’s character that’s supposed to be “doll-like” to some extent but that’s barely showcased, and something I plain wouldn’t know if I wasn’t looking through stuff like tumblr or wiki. At most her changing outfits and hairstyles constantly could be seen as her being like a fashion doll, but that’s it.

Velvette just has a very mild visual identity, which fucking sucks and, unless you’re already familiar with her character, picking up on the practically nonexistent (imo) characterization influences in her outfits are nearly impossible.

Another issue that gets brought up because of her lack of a distinct visual identity or design theme is that I’ve seen multiple artists and writers who form descriptors for, or make fanart of, the Vees’ “true” demonic forms end up skipping on Velvette because they can’t fully grasp what she is and so aren’t sure how exactly they want to expand upon those design and ability influences in order to make them scarier. I imagine like a scary clown or giant marionette that can turn the strings onto her audience to puppeteer them (in like a Dream Warriors “tendon string” type of way) or her being able to multiply into multiple dolls and kind of being like the nurses from Silent Hill or something (like how dolls have doll lines so you can have multiple dolls of the same character, just in different outfits), but those ideas aren’t the most creative so I can definitely see why some artists unfortunately just end up leaving Vel where she’s at.

I still like that Velvette has multiple different aspects to her character (witch: bcs she uses magic/potions - or even mad scientist: bcs potions = science experiments, doll: bcs fashion designer/model, clown/jester, & influencer: bcs demonic personification of social media), I’d just like for them to be visually represented more clearly. And I think her constantly changing outfits is a great way to not have to settle for shoving all of her different traits into one outfit/main design too!

— NOTE ALSO THAT: As far as I know, only her jester and witch-y elements are 100% canon(?), the doll theme I’ve just heard mentioned in fandom spaces.

— EDIT (11/23/24): It has roughly been kind of confirmed, since I started writing this on March 25th of this year, that Velvette is a living doll of some sort via a picture of pins (that were official Hazbin Hotel merch) of the Vees that showcased a picture of Velvette with doll joints/points of articulation. I want to note that I do love this direction if it’s true, as it allows for much more opportunity and variety in the outfits she wears, but I’m just not entirely sure of its truthfulness as of right now.

I have also been collecting so many outfit references for both outfits I think Vel should wear herself and what I think her runway designs would look like, and just— if I could draw, I would be. Velvette is such a versatile muse, I can’t get over her, and I hope the show pinpoints her visual identity more succinctly next season (fingers crossed, there’s still time). Her color scheme is well established though, so that’s something. Also, I plan on making a more in-depth post about what of her canonical sense of fashion I can gleam from season one later so…yeah.

[velveteenlop]

Where are you now

Drabble Prompt: Titus being the one to find Lucius (headcanon) Warnings: Character Death Word Count: 1154 Character(s): Titus yae Galvus, Lucius yae Galvus, Solus zos Galvus (mentioned)

Ever since Lucius had fallen ill the castle felt… Different. There was this heavy aura that hung about and he couldn’t tell wholly if it was simply because his older brother was ill or if it was aided in father being away on top of it. Maybe it was simply both, not that it mattered too much. In every way it sucked and there wasn’t much that could be done but pray and hope. Lucius had been getting better so it was only a matter of time, right? Surely this round of falling backwards in his health improvement was simply a hurdle to get over. What was the saying? It gets worse before it gets better? Though he was sure it had already been worse before he started getting better… Titus stopped in his tracks, taking stock of things around him and how cold it felt. For the full breadth of his twenty years his home had felt so full of life and love, he’d wanted for nothing… And now all he wanted was for things to go back to as they had been before, for the warmth to return and keep the season’s chill out where it belonged.. Childish wishes he knew he was too old to be leaning on; until Lucius was better he had to stay in the role of the “older” sibling. He’d been kept busy the last couple of days, only able to visit for small chunks of time to make sure he ate, and with some time to himself he intended to go and spend as much time with his brother as he could. Sucking in a breath, trying to center himself again, he let it out slowly and continued on to his intended destination; he wanted to make sure he looked presentable and in decent spirits when visiting. He didn’t move until he was certain he could play the part and only then did his steps move him again towards his brother’s location. The closer he got to said room, however, the colder it felt; darker. His brows furrowed, hand moving to cling to the bottom of his coat, and he found himself reaching out instinctively. There was the barest blip of light, like Lucius was far away, and he could feel his anxiety spiking. 

No. No there was no need to panic just yet, it was possible perhaps that he’d been moved or even that he was well enough to be out. Wishful thinking, perhaps, but preferable to panicking over something that was likely not what it seemed like. He didn’t stop again until he reached the door, dread creeping up from his gut like a cold hand, breathing starting to pick up. He had to be imagining things, he had to be. A sweaty palm wrapped around the handle to allow him to open the door and he was greeted with a cold, still room. Lucius lay immobile on the bed and he could almost be sleeping, he looked peaceful almost… “Brother?” he called out, voice not as strong as he had wanted. Would he even respond? Perhaps he was tired… “Have you eaten yet? You probably should put something in you to keep your strength up.” It wasn’t easy to pull himself from the doorframe, the handle slowly leaving his grip as he took an uneasy step into the room. Then another. The light he usually felt from his brother was practically non-existent at this point, skin unusually pale for him. “You should eat… father will worry.” More silence as he reached the bed, the muscles of his stomach tight, the mattress giving a bit under the weight of his palms against it. Staring at Lucius’ body showed nothing, not even the most shallow of breaths moving his chest. It had to be a joke, right? Was he holding his breath maybe? 

“This isn’t a time for games, brother…” Oh! He’d learned of a trick with mirrors to check for that sort of thing. Surely this would make it hard for Lucius to keep up such a game! Hurriedly he moved to find the hand mirror he’d left in the room, nearly tripping over himself in a rush to get back to the bed and hold it just in front of his older brother’s face to try and find any sign of breath; of life. If only his hands would stop shaking. “You can’t hold your breath forever.” Was he talking to the form on the bed or himself, having been forced to let out the one he’d been holding as he stared at the mirror’s surface. “Lucius please, the game is over okay?” The mirror fell with a loud shattering sound as it fell beside the youngest prince, his hands grasping at the blankets that covered his brother’s prone form. Earnestly, desperately, he shook him; ignoring as his eyes began to burn. “Luci please!” he hated how thick his throat felt as he tried to get the words out. “You can stop pretending now! Okay? Stop it please!!” When had his voice gotten so loud? He was going to draw attention at this point- not that he cared. He just wanted his beloved older brother to wake up! “Luci please!!” He wasn’t even aware of the incoming presences behind him, that some of the guards and staff had come to see what was all the commotion. There was some sort of going on behind him but he didn’t care, not until hands tried to pull him away. Panic surged through Titus at that, moving to throw himself atop his brother and cling all the harder to him. No they couldn’t separate them! Hadn’t they been separated enough? “Brother please!” he was sobbing as he cried out. “Tell him to let me stay!” Stronger hands grabbed him, started to pull as some of the nurses tried to gently pry the blanket from his hold. He fought, squirmed, anything he could to get them to stop but in the end they were the stronger ones. The blanket ripped just a little as he was finally forced to let go, hands flailing to try and grab anything he could all while calling out for Lucius. Even the door frame wasn’t spared his grasp; though it didn’t last. Not with the guards holding him tight, dragging him to his room to lock him within. Those who remained nearby were forced to hear Titus scream and cry himself until his voice gave out, and presumably passed out. One would think the reaction overmuch and childish, given that Titus was only five years younger then the crown prince- But none of those privy to his reaction couldn’t fault him, the youngest prince had ever been close to his older brother; they were practically inseparable even once Lucius had taken a wife. He had ever been Titus’ world and now, much like the mirror on the floor, it was shattered. 

[mogai-hotel-boss]

[ID: A set of two images. The first is of Emily from Hazbin Hotel with a white outline and a translucent black drop shadow in front of a flag splice of her listed identities. The second is a blank flag splice. ID end]

Emily is aroace, pangender, and uses any pronouns.

[vellichorsdesire]

i genuinely love all my headcanons about my f/o forever like in a way they’re so canon to me and i cannot think otherwise. things like they like their hair tied up because otherwise it gets in the way with how long it is. they have an uneven smile and a seemingly ‘weird’ short laugh because they’re not so used to doing both, though they have really easy tickle spots. they like sweet foods too much and will forever love tiramisu, coz they like coffee stuff a lot. lattes especially… i could go on and on but i love everything about them so bad both flaws and not

[raitrolling]

Velour is very much a Mass Appeal Youtuber, aiming to be as inoffensive as possible to gain a large audience (who will buy his merch) while also avoiding any controversies as he can. He pushes the envelope just enough to skirt the boundaries of what might be acceptable for a midblood-highblood cusp to speak about, and takes a stance that fashion is for everyone and should be more accessible for lowbloods so they can also feel good about themselves, without going all in on promoting hemoequality

He's still got his hang-ups that he's trying to unlearn, such as how Jamie and Jikiro have bullied him out of upping his prices for plus-sized clothing (as he thought that was fair due to more fabric being used. and also he's a fucking cheapskate, as we know), and also tends to use models from agencies to wear his designs down the runway which obviously promotes a very specific beauty standard, but he does try to be better at putting his money where his mouth is re: promoting that fashion is for everyone and anyone can be stylish and feel comfortable wearing nice clothing

But he also does feel a bit bad that he doesn't really do enough to promote his true views, and knows that he definitely has the platform to do so but the only thing holding him back is the fear of getting cancelled or losing his career due to sounding like he's promoting anti Empire-views. He just does what he can, making sure to show designs he's made for trolls of all sizes and castes without favouring one part of the hemospectrum or specific beauty standards too much, and having a line of psiionic-dampening accessories for lowbloods with uncontrollable psiionics

[hashtagbiitch]

What kind of underwear do they wear on the day-to-day?

not-so spicy meme accepting !

it depends on her outfit. somedays it's sporty boyshorts and bralettes. other days it's lacy lingerie. most of the time it's a sleek, seamless nude thong set that won't show under her clothes. she can't have the lines ruining her perfect look.

[mayxthexforce]

Headcanuary - Day 4

Prompt: Strength.

Agen Kolar

Growing up surrounded by few Zabraks and a majority of other species, mostly humans, made Agen all too aware of how much stronger than most he is. When he was a child, he did get into trouble a few times for 'playing too rough' with the other kids even though, by his own standards, he was being pretty gentle. Anything gentler than that and he wasn't really having fun. So, he stopped playing with other kids, except Quinlan, because Quinlan didn't mind roughousing.

Ailyn Vel

Ailyn is pretty strong. She has a pretty muscular body build because she's been impersonating her father since age 16 and she's got to look the part to play the part, so she's trained and worked out to achieve that. Having to carry bounties -dead and alive- around also played a hand in her getting buff.

Luke Skywalker

What do you get when you mix a farmer who is also a mechanic in a desert planet with no access to forklifts + the force? A very strong bastard, that's for sure. Even as a little guy, Luke was packing machinery and crates around like nothing.

Medrit Vasur

People make the mistake of underestimating Medrit's strength just because he chose a different career than bounty hunting, but he's pretty strong. He has spent his whole life working in a farm, in mines, and as a blacksmith. On top of that, he has soldier training from his time at the imperial academy. So he's pretty strong.

Obi-Wan Kenobi

Obi-Wan is pretty strong. There are few people that remember this and those who do know don't speak about it, but for a good part of his life, Obi-Wan was considered the brawn of his friend group. Bant is emotionally intelligent, Garen is very good with technology and socializing, and Obi-Wan was just there to pick them both up and out of harm's way. He once got in big trouble for beating up another youngling for insulting him, calling him Oafy-Wan.

Voe

She was always the brawn of the Padawans under Luke's wing at the Jedi school. While she could be quite stubborn and get into all kinds of brawls —9 times out of 10 with Ben Solo—, she used her strength to help others more often than she got into intense sparring matches with Ben, and was there to help pull him, and any other Padawan, out of danger whenever she could.

[chipthekeeper]

Thoughts on Vel leaving Chandrila (and heteronormativity) for the first time and being a bit timid for a while but then pivoting hard into her fuckboy era?