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"Billy wasn't sure what the creature ransacking his train car was.” Alternatively, Billy feeds a stray and ends up with a roommate.
WC: 1215
Serendipity (n): the occurrence and development of events by chance in a happy or beneficial way.
Billy wasn't sure what the creature ransacking his train car was. Granted, the train car wasn't in the most hidden place ever, but he had made sure to ward it against most creatures. The ward would have made one unable to see the train, and if they somehow saw it anyways, they would have been turned around. He usually was pinged if anything passed his wards, which was why he was so blindsided to see something moving around in his train car. It seemed that this one had slipped through his protections.
The creature was strange and almost hard to look at directly. Its blinding white hair moved independent from the wind and twined around its long, pointed, mint colored ears. It was also small, small enough that Billy thought it could comfortably fit into his cupped hands, and wearing some sort of skin tight suit, black with a stripe of silver along its torso. Or what appeared to be its torso, Billy couldn't really tell when its lower body faded into a long tail.
From his perspective, it seemed to be rummaging through where he usually hides his food, showing slivers of its white paws. Did it pass through the barriers he set because it was hungry?
Billy approached the creature quietly, making sure not to get too close, he wouldn't want to startle it. His efforts were in vain though as the creature snapped its head towards him. It's glowing eyes like headlights, as if staring into Billy’s soul. The green in its eyes swirling hypnotically as the creature bristled at his presence.
Billy watched, amused but vigilant, as the creature puffed up like a cat. Even going so far as to swat a couple times in his direction. So far, it was quite harmless, but the buzzing in the back of his head that he usually equated to Solomon told him to be careful.
Billy slowly dropped to his knees, mindful of the creature's reaction, and shifted his bag to his front. He shuffled through his bag and brought out the small piece of jerky he was saving for later, sliding it slowly towards the creature.
The creature tilted its head, staring at the jerky suspiciously before taking a few steps to paw at it. It apparently passed its test as it devoured the jerky surprisingly fast for its small size. While it seemed to be starving, thankfully it didn't reflect onto its body. It wasn't gaunt or thin, but actually quite plump. Perhaps it just didn't eat for a day or two?
Billy took a small step forward, then a few more when he realized the creature was focused on eating. “So,” He began softly, the creature startling as if it was just realizing he was so close. “What are you doing here, little guy?”
It stared at him silently before once again tilting its head. It was cute, Billy realized. The chubby cheeks and button nose paired with big, shiny eyes made it endearing to look at. His expression melted slightly as he took a closer look at the creature.
The creature's ear flicked as it padded up to him, paws on Billy’s knees. It let out an unintelligible sound, layered and harsh to Billy's ear, yet somehow melodious. Billy blinked, not expecting that noise. The creature looked at him almost expectantly, eyes shining brightly.
Billy hesitantly brought his knuckles closer to the creature, feeling its cold nose as it sniffed him. It was clearly unimpressed and trilled for more food. Billy chuckled under his breath as he brought another piece of jerky to the needy creature. It gobbled it up swiftly, looking up at him and once again begging for more, its eyes almost sparkling.
Billy folded under the cuteness overload and retrieved a sandwich from his bag, splitting it in half. He was worried that it would eat more than it could handle if he kept feeding it. He knew very well what that felt like.
The creature blinked at him, once, twice, before giving him a small, pleasant trill and headbutted his fingers. Billy cautiously set his hand over its silky hair? Fur? All he knew was that it felt divine, though not in the godly way.
“What are you?” Billy asked as he wove his fingers through its hair, genuinely curious on what species the creature was. He had inputted a lot of creatures in his ward but he had no clue what this one was. The tingling at the back of his head spoke otherwise, Solomon knowing very well what it was. He could transform and ask Solomon, since he couldn't really speak to him unless he was Captain Marvel, but that would just scare the creature.
It gave him a look before resuming its lunch, finishing it in record time. Apparently, it deigned him worthy of its presence on his lap as it kneaded his legs then curled up onto them. The purring surprised him, pausing when the creature gave him an impatient look when he halted his ministrations on its hair.
He resumed, of course. Why wouldn't he? It was a nice reprieve from fighting villains as Captain Marvel and watching out for himself when he was on the streets. It was just a quiet moment between him and the strange creature that broke into his home.
…He hadn't realized how lonely he was before this.
He had friends, of course. Freddy, Tawky Tawny, and the Justice League. But… this just wasn't the same. As good as a friend Freddy was, he doubted that he would be willing to just sit and enjoy each other's company silently. Freddy was a huge superhero fan and couldn't help but talk about them in excitement. Not to mention his analyses on Billy’s techniques as Captain Marvel.
The Justice League wasn't any better. They had a professional relationship, thinking of him more as a coworker than a friend. The times he tried to deepen their friendship by inviting them out, he was unfortunately turned down. It seemed that they got along better when they were in battle than not.
Billy usually went to Tawky Tawny for advice, but Tawky Tawny never turned down the opportunity to just spend time in the other’s company. Unfortunately, those times were far and few between, usually because Tawky Tawny was traveling or busy with something else.
With this creature— he’d have to name it eventually, Billy thought absently—all that was expected of him was companionship, nothing more.
Billy felt a cool paw pat his face, the creature looking up at him concerned. His eyes widened before he let out a huff, ruffling its hair. The creature let out a disgruntled chuff and phased through his hands then batted at them, settling down once more on his lap once it was done.
It hadn't been with him long, all he had done was give it some food, and it was already trying to comfort him. Admittedly, it wasn't the best comfort, it stopped once he focused on it, but it wasn't something he expected from a creature he met not an hour ago.
Billy smiled, eyes soft. Perhaps it could stay, if only for a while.
Whipped this up in a couple hours while trying to get out of my funk
Thanks for reading!!
Ao3
#Danny: DO NOT TOUCH ME#Also Danny: I've only had Billy for ten minutes#but if anything happened to him#I would kill everyone in this room and then myself#Why is danny in LBM form?#who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯#Billy feels super weird to Danny#Lingering dead wizard + magic + gods = confused senses#baby empath Billy!!#its why hes so certain about danny's emotions#unreliable narrator billy#ghosts can purr :)#cat!LBM#tfw the creature that broke into your home to steal your food becomes family#dpxdc#billy batson#danny fenton#captain marvel#fluff#minor angst#minor hurt/comfort#had a cat visit my house recently#so thats why lbm turned out like that#little baby man#finally living up to my username#serendipity#wip: LBM commits b&e and billy batson gains a friend
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Me before watching Chicago (2002) when I discovered WBRFTG and it became one of my favourite songs and I was listening to it without context: OH YES OH YES OH YES THEY BOTH OH YES THEY BOTH OH YES THEY BOTH REACHED FOR THE GUN THE GUN THE GUN THE GUN
Me after actually watching the movie: Wait a minute... I've been bamboozled
#misc; ooc#//unreliable narration is so fun though I love it it's probably my favourite thing when it comes to storytelling#//and that scene was so good like did they really have to go that hard???#//and how billy flynn was portrayed quite literally like a puppeteer ugh#//or the scene with his defense against velma god#//everything about that movie is just top tier
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Glancing at something on Ao3 -
What kind of feelings Jerry was supposed to evoke, actually?
FE16 pushes the player - through Billy - to consider Jerry as a good parent, because it plays with the red herring about the evil lizard lady being evil.
And yet, even with all of his misgivings about his kid, Jerry is still the one who calls Flamey's bullshit and wonders if running away from GM wasn't the stupidest decision he ever made, just before kicking the bucket.
Being the cheap copy of the Ike'n'Greil relationship, Jerry's presence and death is supposed to be important to Billy - even in Tru Piss where they look pissed at seeing Emile and working with Uncle'n'pals.
And yet, unlike what we learn about Greil being the chadest amongst chads with 1 (one!) blackspot to his record, whenever you talk to characters about Jerry you're met with... less than rosy thoughts, even if the characters apparently handwave it away.
Let it be with Leonie, or even Alois, Billy learns that their dad wasn't the chadest of chads like Greil, but a drunkard (before Citrus' death, since Alois was a kid!) who apparently played dangerous games with people who idolised him, left his kid alone to be showered with praise by Leonie's village as he dealt with bandits, and left bar tabs all around the continent for his "apprentices" to pay.
Come the "journal" where, imo, we learn that dude was so afraid of his baby not being "normal" than he ran away from the odd lady who saved them "a long time" ago and who's pretty much not normal himself, and the place where his own wife, who displayed - partly - the same "abnormality" as their baby grew up and lived.
Then Nopes happened and did a number on poor Jerry - from mocking their kid's potential aspirations at being something else than a sword for hire, to their singing (done to cheer him up!) and actually learning he at times apparently let them go without food while he never invited them to the "thank you" parties throwns by the people his company saved...
Billy still loves their dad, but is he a good dad by any means?
With all that knowledge, after playing both FE16 and Nopes, can we really feel upset when Jerry kicks the bucket? For Billy maybe, because Jerry is important for them, but does it has the same echo as Greil's death, or even, to remain in Fodlan, Rodrigue's?
I guess if in Nopes, Jerry acted on his heel-face turn (or suddenly growing a brain) from his penultimate FE16 dialogue, we could have had a character growing beyond the red herring and the "unreliable narrator" stuff FE16's first part gave us, and maybe make for a more grounded-complete character, like confessing that he panicked after Citrus' death and worried for Billy, but regrets not being able to bring them the best life they dreamt of, and willing to apologise and let Billy grow in the same environment Citrus did.
Or maybe even explore what Jerry did in 300 years, if he never bothered to wonder why the fuck was he living to be as old as the elites, or his thoughts and feelings about Rhea periodically using hairdye to pretend to be someone else and "aging" even less than him...
Given how - or maybe i'm tainted by the fandom - FE16 thrived on the playerbase feeling characters/situation "relatable" from a doylist pov, I guess Jerry running away with bby!Billy because they weren't "normal" wasn't as weird as it sounds, babies should rightfully have a beating heart!
Bernie is a hikkikomori (forget the part where she's supposed to be the heir of one of the most important lands in Adrestia which would rightfully make her father disappointed with her (lbr, Greg would either have tried to get another kid with Bernie's mom, or got a second wife/bastard, or picked a branch member of his house to take his succession), Linhardt falls asleep and doesn't want to do his job as the next minister of Finances/whatever his dad does and prefers to hyperfocus on academic research ? How lol (please ignore the implications of House Hervring's heir being, uh, not interested in whatever his father does and how he is supposed to inherit his job (at least before Supreme Leader starts her war and pulls out her "reforms")).
Between the brackets are the first arguments that come to mind, if we consider the world those characters live in, aka Watsonian wise.
Jerry is worried about his baby's heart not beating and them not being normal? Jerry, you're not "normal" per Fodlan's standards yourself, you're over 300! Your wife had the same difficulties to emote than your kid and she might or not have had the same "heart not beating" syndrome given how it's her own heart that was transplanted in your kid
You know that what is "normal" for regular humans in Fodlan do not apply to you, your wife or your boss who oddly looks like your wife. So why was that argument even considered when you decided to run away and condemn your child to a life of "sword for hire" and danger at each day ending with a -y ?
IDK, it's as if, in BK, Kalas' bro, born without wings - which is an oddity since apparently everyone is born with some in this verse - finds Kalas weird for only having "one wing" and not two like everyone. It would be the pot calling the keetle back (but since BK is a game with coherent writing, this never happened).
Jerry runs away with the baby because the baby isn't normal despite the midwife assuring everyone they are?
Legit
300 yo Jerry runs away with the baby because the baby has the same condition as their mother despite the "immortal lady who saved his life" assuring him the baby is alright?
WTF
So, in the end, what are we supposed to think of Jerry?
Was he a character who made the best situation out of the shitty cards he was handed regarding their kid?
Or a character who swallowed an idiot plot ball to play with the doylist red herring, made errors but ultimately saw the light before being Clownya'd?
Or, given his supports and Nopes, a shitty character whose only redeeming point is to be Billy's dad, and who receives a lot of leeway by virtue of being Billy's dad by the writing team (given two fans) and the first game being from Billy's POV?
#I might be harsh on Jerry#seriously after playing (and still doing so lol) BK aka more meaty games#with real writing#you see how the unreliable narrator stuff is developed#and when it contradicts the world and lore there is a resolution#it's not just 'uuuuh'#i often shit on ike but so far I don't have anything remotely salty to say about Greil bar Mist being less relevant than Loki's own mist#rant#FE16#with the 5 years anniversary I was thinking about characters I wrote/thought a lot about#pretty sure reading Jerry's diary cemented Rhea's belief that Sothis needed to return because Fodlan was fucked#like the dude ran away from her after 300 years bcs Billy's part Nabatean hopefully she never told him her secret#what would he have done otherwise? Killed her himself?
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Billy, what do u think of lettuce mark
Aw! This reminds me of the time we ate lettuce for lunch! Don't u remember that, Mark?
..Uhh yeah.
#spoiler alert. billy is an unreliable narrator. the event wasnt as simple as he said#take that as u will#mark and friends#ashur gharavi#an answer for an ask
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so i have a question that i think it's interesting but do you think camila was completely selfless during the hotel scene with daisy?. Don't get me wrong, i think camila cared about daisy but also i think she was trying to make her stay away from her husband because there was a huge part of her that was afraid of billy loving daisy and being stupid enough to leave his family for her. That doesn't take away from camila being a genuine person but i think there was a little bit of malice in her actions (understandable, she's human) and a part of her was trying to push daisy away from billy because she knew there was something really strong there that she couldn't hold back. Also her keeping daisy's number but not sharing it was a huge giveaway because i think deep down, she lowkey knew that daisy was always going to be really important for billy
camila is the hardest character to get an accurate picture of because every character is telling her daughter the best version of her recently deceased mother. none of them want to tarnish her memory Especially daisy and billy when they talk about anything between the two of them. if she acted completely selflessly in the hotel room scene then she’d be the most unrealistic character of all time tbh. she’s protecting her family against someone she perceives as a threat at the end of the day, however i think because she’s so empathetic and has experience with addiction she’s able to tell daisy what she needs to hear. there’s also always the chance that she said something to daisy in that moment that daisy wouldn’t want to tell julia. the number thing i think is less jealousy and more to do with the fact that billy probably wanted to never talk to or mention daisy in the aftermath of the band splitting because at that point theres no reason for camila to think he’s going to leave her she’s absolutely secure with the knowledge that he’d give up anything for her
#when the narrator was revealed it suddenly made so much sense why camila was the only one across accounts who seemed wholly good#and if in the show they make her do things differently in the show i support them#because it’ll be an example of how time and circumstances make unreliable narrators#i think the number was probably to show that there was no ill will between the two of them#they kept in touch! How many times do you think daisy’s number changed since the 70s they would have had to talk!#and that was something camila kept from billy because she knew it would hurt him#djats
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He's Not Here
On his eighteenth birthday, Steve had been contemplating what to write when he felt his left forearm tingle. Every thought is a dream, rushing by in a stream. Bringing life to our kingdom of doing. Take a ride in the sky, on our ship. All your dreams will come true, miles away. The first words he could see that his soulmate had written. They were beautiful. Now Steve had to find the perfect thing to respond with.
Two weeks passed, and Steve received this: The endless hours of heartache. waiting for you. My summer love has turned to rain, all the pain. The silent emptiness of one sided love. My life means nothing now you’re gone. It was then he decided it didn’t need to be perfect. He couldn’t allow his unnamed soulmate to suffer because he was a coward. Steve decided to explain how he was terrible with words and that even on a good day he could barely read. He hoped that his soulmate would understand.
Steve had barely uncapped the pen when he felt his right arm tingle. He rolled his sleeve to see a drawing. More than that, a breathtaking piece of art, a hand holding a rose, incredibly detailed, each line obviously thought out. It was so amazing all he could do was stare.
Then, before his eyes, he saw a new word appear, Hello.
That’s some depressing ass shit you wrote there. You good? The newcomer wrote.
Steve watched as the two continued to have a conversation, unaware that he was there. He had nothing to write. Steve would never be as good with words or as gifted with a pen as his soulmates. Let alone the fact that they had each other now. They didn’t need him. It would be better if Steve stayed quiet.
Barely a month had passed since Steve discovered he had two soulmates. Every day he watched as they exchanged words for pictures, but Steve had decided he was fine. Steve wasn't going to tell them just so he could die from the Upside Down or Billy Hargrove. He would prefer them to be happily unaware of his presence.
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When Dustin came to him with the stupid baby monster Steve couldn’t say he was surprised. He never thought they would ever get away from the Upside Down. It was why he still kept his bat in the trunk of his car and slept with all of his lights on. Steve was alarmed when Dustin came into the ice cream shop screaming about Russians under the mall. Eventually, though, that ended like it always did. Steve gets the shit beat out of him, this time gaining a new friend in the process, and then the kids tell him what happened later.
Now there was calm. Steve would check on Max and Billy because their father died and it was the right thing to do. Sometimes he would drive Max to school when Billy was at work but that was it. Maybe, every once in a while he needed to check on Billy but he figured it was a normal feeling to have, the man had almost died.
Instead of focusing on something he didn’t want to focus on, Steve just continued on. Even when Steve got a glance at Billy's sketchbook and saw something he recognized. No, it was senior year Steve and Billy were graduating. Steve needed to focus on something that would hopefully improve his life later.
Steve was finally out of high school. He worked with Robin at Family Video while Billy worked as a mechanic on the next street over, and he had officially reached a full year of ignoring his soulmates. That was something Steve didn't know how to feel about. Every day he witnessed these two people bond more and more, without him. It was his choice, he was fine. At least he told himself that every time he watched them exchange pen strokes. Instead of throwing himself at the feet of these two strangers, Steve decided to focus on his job.
"See Robin, this system works better."
Robin just looked at him, "Sure dingus, sure."
Somehow that conversation led to Robin finding out about his soulmates. Steve was never sure how she did it.
~~~
Robin and Steve were working when Dustin came running in. Yelling something about phones and finding Eddie. The very same Eddie that had been mentioned on the news seconds before Dustin and Max burst through the door. The Eddie that was currently wanted for murder. Eddie Munson, the man Steve is now driving to find at a convicted drug dealer's house.
Naturally, the situation just got worse when they got to the house. No one was inside, and they were leaving when they noticed a small boat shed which would likely be where Eddie was. The group walked into the dark shed, Steve remembering they were looking for a possible murderer grabbed an oar.
“Hey, look over here,” Max said, “Someone was here.”
Robin walked over, “Maybe he heard us, got spooked, and ran.”
“Don’t worry Steve’ll get him with his oar,” Dustin remarked sarcastically.
“I know you think you're being funny Henerson, but considering the fact that everyone in this room has almost died about a hundred times, personally I don’t find it funny in the-”
It was then that Eddie jumped out of his hiding place pushing a broken bottle to Steve’s neck.
“Hey, Eddie, Eddie, it’s me, Dustin. This is Steve. He’s not going to hurt you. Right, Steve?”
Steve nodded and made a noise he hoped could be taken for a yes. Then dropped his oar at Dustin’s urging.
Eddie glanced at Dustin, “What are you doing here?”
“We’re looking for you.”
“We’re here to help,” Robin said.
Dustin nodded saying, “Yeah, these are my friends. You know Robin, from band. And this is my friend Max, the one who never wants to play D&D. Eddie, we’re on your side. I swear on my mother!”
“Dustin’s mother,” Steve said, still very aware of the broken shards of glass against his neck.
Finally, the bottle was moved, but now a new can of worms was opened. Eddie had to learn about everything that had happened in the past three years. While Dustin explained, Steve watched Eddie take it all in. He was a little stunned that Eddie accepted all of this information with barely a blink.
Three weeks had passed since they fought Vecna. Billy and Eddie were soulmates, the boys found out while Eddie was in the hospital. Steve had to admit they made a cute couple, even if watching them together stirred up feelings he didn’t know were there. He was fine, he didn't have time for that type of thing. At least that’s what he told himself every time he felt the telltale feeling of a pen against his arm.
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Steve was at Nancy's house when it happened. The Wheeler’s basement had lost some of its structural integrity in the earthquake. So Steve was helping lay down cement and fix walls. Steve hadn’t been paying attention when he was fixing the doorway, so the top part fell directly on his head. It knocked him out cold. He wasn’t awake to tell the paramedics not to write on his arm to tell his soulmates that he wouldn’t be able to respond. He was unable to tell them not to write his name when they left the message. Instead, Steve was stuck with the consequences when he woke up.
The first thing Steve saw when he came to was two curly masses of hair under fluorescent lights. He tried to sit up but a hand reached out and pushed him down.
“Not so fast, big boy.”
Eddie?
“Slow down idiot, you just woke up.”
Billy?
Steve gave his eyes a moment to adjust. Eddie and Billy were sitting on either side of him. Both boys were staring at him.
“What’s up?” Steve asked, getting uncomfortable.
“What’s up? What’s up? We’re playing that game, are we? How 'bout you tell us huh Harrington? You wanna tell us what the hell is up?” Steve watched Billy rant until Eddie gave him a look.
Eddie returned his gaze to Steve and said, “You know we’re soulmates right?”
Steve gave a small nod, Billy scoffed. He was confused. Billy was that mad because Steve hadn’t told them? Steve watched Billy mutter under his breath, he didn’t understand. Eddie cleared his throat to get his attention.
“Look, Stevie, you just woke up. We’ll talk about this later.” Eddie said it in a tone that left no argument. Even if Steve had no idea what was so important.
#i slap canon in the face#romance#romance as written by an aromantic#billy x steve x eddie#soulmate au#billy hargrove#steve harrington#eddie munson#steve doesn't think he's as great as we know he is#unreliable narrator
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Something felt off to me about that scene where Billy and Daisy are arguing after the press conference and now I know what: nobody argues with faces that close together. Cheap, soap opera style drama. I'm going with it being a misremembered memory.
#djats#billy dunne#unreliable narrator works any way you want it to#daisy was on drugs majority of that time and who knows what's true and what she imagined#unpopular opinion#just in case#mypost
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WHUMPTOBER 2024: PROMPTS LIST
Welcome to Whumptober 2024 — Seventh Time's a Charm!
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We’re very excited to see the community come together for another year of Whumptober! Go wild with the prompts, and support your fellow creators - we wish you all the fun!
Best of luck and happy whumping,
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(Text versions of the prompts, as well as event information, rules and FAQ are posted below the cut!)
Whumptober 2024 Prompt List
No. 1: RACE AGAINST THE CLOCK
Search Party | Panic Attack | "If only we could hold on.” (Icysami x Renegaderr, Strangers.)
No. 2: TRUST ISSUES
Amusement Park | Role Reversal | “You got away with the crime while the knife's in my back.” (Charlotte Sands, Rollercoaster)
No. 3: SET UP FOR FAILURE
Fingerprints | Wrongfully Arrested | "I warned you."
No. 4: HALLUCINATIONS
Hypnosis | Sensory Deprivation | “You're still alive in my head.” (Billy Lockett, More)
No. 5: SUNBURN
Healing Salve | Heatstroke | "If my pain will stretch that far." (Lottery Winners, Burning House)
No. 6: NOT REALISING THEY'RE INJURED
Unhealthy Coping Mechanisms | Healed Wrong | "It's not my blood."
No. 7: ONLY FOR EMERGENCIES
Unconventional Weapon | Magic with a Cost | "It's us or them."
No. 8: SLEEP DEPRIVATION
Isolation Chamber | Forced to Stay Awake | "Leave the lights on." (Coldplay, Midnight)
No. 9: OBSESSION
Broken Window | Bruises | “Frame me up on the wall, just to keep me out of trouble.” (Fall Out Boy, Irresistible)
No. 10: BLOW TO THE HEAD
Slurred Words | Passing Out from Pain | "I can't think straight."
No. 11: SEEING DOUBLE
Convenience Store | Loneliness | “Leave no trace behind, like you don't even exist.” (Taylor Swift, Illicit Affairs)
No. 12: STARVATION
Underground Caverns | Cannibalism | "Just a little more."
No. 13: TEAM AS A FAMILY
Familial Curse | Multiple Whumpees | "Death will do us part." (Set It Off, Partner's In Crime)
No. 14: LEFT FOR DEAD
Hunting Gear | Blackmail | “Because I want you to know what it feels like to be haunted” (tiLLie, kooL aiD mAn)
No. 15: CHILDHOOD TRAUMA
Painful Hug | Moment of Clarity | "I did good, right?"
No. 16: NECROSIS
Swamp | Wound Cleaning | "No, I can't feel anything."
No. 17: NOWHERE ELSE TO GO
Ruined Map | Shipwrecked | "We had a good run."
No. 18: REVENGE
Unreliable Narrator | Loss of Identity | “I see what's mine and take it.” (Panic! at the Disco, Emperor's New Clothes)
No. 19: BLOOD TRAIL
Abandoned Cabin | One Way Out | "Is there anybody alive out there?" (Bruce Springsteen, Radio Nowhere)
No. 20: EMOTIONAL ANGST
Shoulder to Cry On | Giving Permission to Die | "It's not your fault."
No. 21: BODY HORROR
Body Horror | Tattoo Gun | Spirit Possession | “Let the bedsheet soak up the tears.” (Apparat feat. Soap & Skin, Goodbye)
No. 22: BLEEDING THROUGH BANDAGES
Tourniquet | Reopening Wounds | "Oh that's not good."
No. 23: FORCED CHOICE
Public Display | Broken Pedestal | "I'm doing this for you."
No. 24: RADIATION POISONING
Collapsed Building | Equipment Failure | “I never knew daylight could be so violent.” (Florence + The Machine, No Light, No Light)
No. 25: SURGERY
Stitches | Being Monitored | "It's for your own good."
No. 26: NIGHTMARES
Breakfast Table | Parting Words of Regret | “I'm haunted by the lies that I have loved, the actions I have hated.” (Poe, Haunted)
No. 27: VOICELESS
Laboratory | Muzzled | “I have no mouth and I must scream.”
No. 28: DENIAL
CCTV | Exposure | "They caught me red handed."
No. 29: FATIGUE
Labyrinth | Burnout | "Who said you could rest?"
No. 30: RECOVERY
Hospital Bed | Holding Back Tears | "What have I done?"
No. 31: ASKING FOR HELP
Therapy | Making Amends | "I'm alive, I'm just not well." (Elliot Lee, Alive, Not Well.)
Alternatives List:
Body Swap
Communication Barrier
Finding Old Messages
Forgotten
Friendly Fire
Motion Sickness
No-Holds-Barred Beatdown
Regret
Secrets Revealed
Shivering
Survivor's Guilt
Time Loop
Used As Bait
Venom
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Event Info & Rules
WHUMPTOBER is a month-long, prompt-based creation challenge (think: Inktober, but whumpier). There are 31 official themes this year - one for each day of the month - which can be used, skipped, or combined in any way you’d like. They are meant to serve as inspiration without being taken literally (e.g. you don’t have to include the exact wording of prompts into your work). Feel free to run rampant on interpretation. For example, if the prompt is “flame", you could create something with reference to a candle/campfire, your character could have suffered a burn, or the flame could be a reference to an ‘old flame’ - an old relationship. It’s truly down to you!
In total, there are 4 prompts for each day. These are optional suggestions and can be used in conjunction with the theme, or as options/alternatives. We want to give everyone as much creative freedom as possible, as well as increase event accessibility for folks with triggers and squicks. There is also a list of 15 alternative prompts that can be subbed in for any day, again to give participants as much creative freedom as possible.
Creators can PRODUCE work in any media they choose, including but not limited to: writing, visual artwork, photo/video/audio edits, paper crafts and elaborate recommendation lists (not just a list of links). Creators can PARTICIPATE as much or as little as they want (i.e. you don’t have to do ALL the prompts if you don’t want to) and prompts can be used in any order. They are also free to use even after the event ends.
When uploading Whumptober content to your blog, be sure to tag it with:
#whumptober2024 …..(the event tag)
#no.1, #no.2, #no.3, …..(theme number)
#bruises, #stabbing, …..(the theme or specific prompt you chose)
#altprompt …..(if you use an altprompt, tag the post with the number of the prompt you replace)
#fandom or #OC, …..(ironman, original content, oc, etc.)
#medium …..(gifs, fic, podcast, art, etc.)
#teeth, #etc …..(trigger warnings & any additional tags. Keep in mind not to add “tw” in front but only use the word/trigger itself)
#nsfwhump …..(only for nsfw content)
#your own tags go here
PLEASE BE DILIGENT WITH YOUR TAGGING. Only properly tagged posts are considered for archiving on the official @whumptober-archive blog. They must be tagged in the order above. An elaborate post about our tagging system can be found [here]
Unfortunately, due to the sheer number of participants in recent years, we cannot guarantee your work will be archived. A random selection of properly tagged posts from all genres will be reblogged each day.
Whumpers who produce content for 31 total theme days are considered event completionists and will be tagged in a masterpost at the end of the month. A form will be published at the beginning of November asking you to tell us if you completed. This is based on trust and we will not check this.
Frequently Asked Questions
Please read this before you send an ask!
TIMELINE
July: Trope voting form released. Late August: Prompt list is released for at least four weeks of preparation time. Tropes cannot be posted earlier than August 25th because of Moderator obligations in real life. (But, you know, go ahead and start writing/drawing, and add the themes in later, if you want!) September: Do as much or as little on your works as you want. You can prepare everything in advance or let September go by with vibes and start working in October. It’s up to you. October 1st: Challenge begins! A storm of whump breaks upon us all! During this time, some posts will be reblogged to the whumptober archive blog. We open the yearly AO3 collection for posting (optional). November 1st: The challenge is officially over! Completionist form opens for those who want to be included in the hall-of-fame. Early November: We release completionist and participant badges, solicit feedback, and post a hall-of-fame list of completionists by the 10th.
PARTICIPATION AND COMPLETION
Q: What counts as participation? Create or continue at least one work inspired by one of this year’s prompts. Q: What counts as completion? Creating work(s) inspired by at least one prompt from each day (or alts), for a total of 31 unique prompts. Q: Do I need to create 31 works? No. You can, if you want. Or you can create one work that you add to every day with a new prompt. Or several works that combine prompts. You can also update an existing work by adding new material with the current prompts. Q: Do I need to post my works somewhere to be a completionist or a participant? No. Q: How do you know I actually completed the challenge? We’ll take your word for it! Q: Do I have to finish my work(s) to be a completionist? No, you can post WIPs. And you’re not obligated to finish them in October, but if you want it to count towards being a completionist, you must have completed 31 prompts by the end of the month. So for example, if you’re writing a long fic and you fit 31 different prompts into the writing you did in October, it’s okay if that fic isn’t finished by the time October ends, you’ll still be a completionist. Q: Is co-writing/illustrating allowed? Yes, absolutely, and it would count towards being a completionist for both/all of you. Q: Is there a min/max limit on word count for written works? No. Q: Is there a min/max limit of quality for art? No. Q: Do I have to do something each day to be a completionist? No. You can skip days whenever you want, and as long as 31 daily prompts (or alts) are in your works done in October, you can be a completionist. For example, if you wrote a 1000-word ficlet that covers prompts in days 2, 3, and 17, you can check all three days off your list even though it’s only one work. Q: Is this challenge just for fics? No! Artworks, GIFsets, headcannons, rec lists, poetry, moodboards, or any other creative work is encouraged. Q: Can I combine Whumptober with other creation challenges? Absolutely, as long as the other challenges allow it too.
PROMPTS
Q: How do the prompts work? There are FOUR prompts per day: a theme and three ideas. You can use one, two, three, or all four prompts for each day. If you don’t like any of the daily prompts, you can substitute one of the ALT prompts instead. Q: How strictly/literally should we interpret the prompts? As literally or as figuratively as you want. For example, if the theme is WATER, that could mean drowning, waterboarding, raining, swimming, take place underwater, be lost at sea, construct a metaphor about a character’s mood that changes like a flowing river, crying, or whatever else you can think of that fits that theme. Q: Can I combine prompts? Is there a limit on how many? No limit and combine as many as you’d like. If you create a work that checks off multiple prompts, that work will count for a fill of multiple prompts. You need to address 31 different prompts to be an official completionist, but you don’t have to produce 31 separate works.
WORKS
Q: What’s whump? Hurting a character, whether that’s physically, emotionally, intellectually, psychologically, or any other way you can think of. Comfort afterwards is optional. Angst is emotional whump, so it counts. Q: How do I know if it’s whumpy enough? If your character is just mildly inconvenienced, it probably needs more whump. However, no participant has to prove whumpiness to the mods. Whatever you write is up to you. Q: What kind of characters can I create for? Anything. Generic “whumpee,” OC, PC, NPC, major characters, minor characters, or whatever you want. There are no limits. Q: Does it have to take place in a specific fandom? No, you can create works for your own worlds or for fandoms or for both. You can also create more generic or pan-fandom works. You can do cross-overs or use OCs, whatever you want. Q: Can I create AI-created works? We will not reblog or promote any works we know to be generative AI-created. Q: Is there anything we’re not allowed to write? As long as it contains whump and is based on our prompts, it’s fine. Please courtesy tag your works if you post them so people who follow the #whumptober2024 tag can filter according to their preferences. Q: What about sex, minor characters, and potentially disturbing content? You can create whatever works are legal in your country and post them accordingly. Please courtesy tag anything you think might be objectionable if you post to Tumblr so people who follow the #whumptober2024 tag can filter according to their preferences.
POSTING
Q: Where can I post my work? Post where and how you want. You don’t even have to (cross)post it to Tumblr. Just keep in mind if it’s not on Tumblr we will not be able to add it to the blog archive. There is an AO3 archive for Whumptober 2024, as well as the parent collection for works completed outside of the event. Q: Can I start posting early? You can, but this is an October event and wouldn’t it be more fun with everyone doing it at the same time? We won’t be reblogging any work predating October 1st. Q: Can I post late? Yes. For the sake of our hardworking Post Fairies, only a day’s themes will be reblogged to @whumptober-archive each day of October. But you can post whenever. Some of us are still working on and posting Whumptober fics from years ago. Q: Do I have to use your tags? Only on Tumblr and only if you want us to reblog your work on @whumptober-archive. Q: How do I have my works reblogged to the archive? Properly tagged posts will be reblogged to @whumptober-archive. If you want the official archive blog to reblog you, post on Tumblr and tag correctly (see this FAQ link for more info on tagging). Please note not all posts will be reblogged each day. Q: Can we @ you? For questions and comments, of course. We’ll be getting a flood of notifications, so if you really want us to see something send an ask. Q: Can I cross post on other blogs? Yes, multiple platforms and blogs are perfectly acceptable, as long as they allow cross-posting (to us). You can also post different works to different accounts under different names, without posting them everywhere at once. If you post some works under your main and others under an alt blog, that’s fine for completionist purposes. Q: Can I upload/repost my Whumptober content to other social media platforms? Of course! We’ve created an AO3 Collection to archive any fics posted there, which can be found here. The blog is the official archive, so please respect the personal boundaries of any whumpers in your social circle (don’t out anyone as a participant who would prefer not to be outed).
Most importantly, have fun, create, and enjoy all the whump posted this October!
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Before Techland were working on parkour and zombies! they made an amazing Fps western cult classic!
#Call of Juarez: Gunslinger#Fps#first-person shooter#Techland#Silas Greaves#bounty hunter#western#Wild West#unreliable narrator#Abilene#Billy the Kid#Lincoln County War#Roscoe 'Bob' Bryant#John Kinney Gang#Pat Garrett#Bandit_Llanura#Zebra#Episode 1#Youtube
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BOOK OF BILL SPOILERS
One thing I like the most about Bill is that he’s an unreliable narrator. He’s a liar
His dimension is flat but he can see 3d. In the show he claims that everything was flat. Flat minds, flat dreams and that he “liberated” his world. Which we know now was him destroying it. This paints him as a cold killer but yet in the book it is stated he misses home and can’t return but that he’s happy, but that he’s a lair. (Stated by axolotl, a being older and more powerful than him)in the book, it also states that everyone loved him in his dimension but that may also be a lie. He may have been ostracized and looked down on for his mutation, except we know his mother loved him. Him wanting to show what he saw to his race led to him burning down his dimension. It was an accident I believe, that there was no malicious intent , just him wanting to show others what he saw. He wanted to show them the stars. But he went too far. think he caused a some sort of rift that sort of just decimated his dimension or his powers going haywire and reduced it to atoms. It’s stated he was left covered in blood.
I’m pretty sure he’s blocking memories. I think the trauma of destroying his dimension left him cold and allowed him and his morals become skewed.He only became worse as he traveled realms and into the nightmare realm and became obsessed with chaos. He and his awful being and it’s good that he’s locked away in therapy prison.
I like that’s he’s a crazy irredeemable person with such tragic backstory. I’m curious about his history and what led him to be the way that he is. He’s trillions years old so who knows what else he been through. I doubt he’s always been this all powerful dream demon. I think he’s tries to paint himself as this being who was always evil but I don’t think he was like that. (He literally blacks out when he thinks about it too much, it’s easier to lie and say it was on purpose and that he’s just evil)
Yes he’s Bill Cipher, a dream demon no one should trust but once he was just Billy who liked his sandwiches with no crust.
#I pity him tbh#he likely wasn’t born a monster but made himself one#after he destroyed his dimension he just accepted that he was evil#he allowed himself into the insanity#my art#digital art#gravity falls#the book of bill#bill cipher#gravity falls bill#the book of bill spoilers#spoilers#gravity falls fanart#gravity falls bill cipher#tw blood#tw death
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Ketto's Whumptober 2024 Prompt Master List
No. 1: RACE AGAINST THE CLOCK - Kit & Violet (r by localicecreambiter)
Search Party | Panic Attack | "If only we could hold on.” (Icysami x Renegaderr, Strangers.)
No. 2: TRUST ISSUES - Warriors (anon)
Amusement Park | Role Reversal | “You got away with the crime while the knife's in my back.” (Charlotte Sands, Rollercoaster)
No. 3: SET UP FOR FAILURE - Legend & Sky (requested by notadragon)
Fingerprints | Wrongfully Arrested | "I warned you."
No. 4: HALLUCINATIONS - Legend &/or Warriors (anon)
Hypnosis | Sensory Deprivation | “You're still alive in my head.” (Billy Lockett, More)
No. 5: SUNBURN
Healing Salve | Heatstroke | "If my pain will stretch that far." (Lottery Winners, Burning House)
No. 6: NOT REALISING THEY'RE INJURED - Legend (requested by tiredkiwilol)
Unhealthy Coping Mechanisms | Healed Wrong | "It's not my blood."
No. 7: ONLY FOR EMERGENCIES - Time (FD) & Wind (requested by chuchujellybean)
Unconventional Weapon | Magic with a Cost | "It's us or them."
No. 8: SLEEP DEPRIVATION - Hyrule (requested by starwolfie)
Isolation Chamber | Forced to Stay Awake | "Leave the lights on." (Coldplay, Midnight)
No. 9: OBSESSION
Broken Window | Bruises | “Frame me up on the wall, just to keep me out of trouble.” (Fall Out Boy, Irresistible)
No. 10: BLOW TO THE HEAD - Legend (also tiredkiwilol)
Slurred Words | Passing Out from Pain | "I can't think straight."
No. 11: SEEING DOUBLE - Four (requested by mermain123)
Convenience Store | Loneliness | “Leave no trace behind, like you don't even exist.” (Taylor Swift, Illicit Affairs)
No. 12: STARVATION - Wild
Underground Caverns | Cannibalism | "Just a little more."
No. 13: TEAM AS A FAMILY - Wild & Four
Familial Curse | Multiple Whumpees | "Death will do us part." (Set It Off, Partner's In Crime)
No. 14: LEFT FOR DEAD
Hunting Gear | Blackmail | “Because I want you to know what it feels like to be haunted” (tiLLie, kooL aiD mAn)
No. 15: CHILDHOOD TRAUMA - Wind (requested by mermain123)
Painful Hug | Moment of Clarity | "I did good, right?"
No. 16: NECROSIS - Wild (requested by zips-quips)
Swamp | Wound Cleaning | "No, I can't feel anything."
No. 17: NOWHERE ELSE TO GO - Wind (theoneeyedgoldenwolf)
Ruined Map | Shipwrecked | "We had a good run."
No. 18: REVENGE - Sky (requested by icy-hot-0111)
Unreliable Narrator | Loss of Identity | “I see what's mine and take it.” (Panic! at the Disco, Emperor's New Clothes)
No. 19: BLOOD TRAIL - Twilight (r by toyouhellohowareyou)
Abandoned Cabin | One Way Out | "Is there anybody alive out there?" (Bruce Springsteen, Radio Nowhere)
No. 20: EMOTIONAL ANGST - Warriors (requested by aeghina)
Shoulder to Cry On | Giving Permission to Die | "It's not your fault."
No. 21: BODY HORROR - Wind & Four (requested by tritailed-shenanigans)
Body Horror | Tattoo Gun | Spirit Possession | “Let the bedsheet soak up the tears.” (Apparat feat. Soap & Skin, Goodbye)
No. 22: BLEEDING THROUGH BANDAGES - Hyrule (requested by mermain123)
Tourniquet | Reopening Wounds | "Oh that's not good."
No. 23: FORCED CHOICE - Time (requested by boingobeepis)
Public Display | Broken Pedestal | "I'm doing this for you."
No. 24: RADIATION POISONING - Wild (requested by abbycrashing)
Collapsed Building | Equipment Failure | “I never knew daylight could be so violent.” (Florence + The Machine, No Light, No Light)
No. 25: SURGERY - Twilight & Warriors (mermain123 again :3)
Stitches | Being Monitored | "It's for your own good."
No. 26: NIGHTMARES - Legend (requested by mermain123)
Breakfast Table | Parting Words of Regret | “I'm haunted by the lies that I have loved, the actions I have hated.” (Poe, Haunted)
No. 27: VOICELESS - Twilight has a Violet Incident (requested by zips-quips)
Laboratory | Muzzled | “I have no mouth and I must scream.”
No. 28: DENIAL
CCTV | Exposure | "They caught me red handed."
No. 29: FATIGUE
Labyrinth | Burnout | "Who said you could rest?"
No. 30: RECOVERY - Wind & Legend & Warriors (because I want to!)
Hospital Bed | Holding Back Tears | "What have I done?"
No. 31: ASKING FOR HELP
Therapy | Making Amends | "I'm alive, I'm just not well." (Elliot Lee, Alive, Not Well.)
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Feel free to send in requests for this year! Any relationships (barring romantic) are optional, and you can give as much or as little detail for what you'd like to see as you like! And if the prompt you wanted is already claimed, no worries! I AM capable of whumping multiple boys at once >:)
(NOTE: I can see your requests best in the post replies, asks WILL most likely get lost in the slew of my askbox!!!!!)
Alternatives List:
Body Swap - Four and Wind (tritailed-shenanigans)
Communication Barrier
Finding Old Messages - Wild (requested by zips-quips)
Forgotten
Friendly Fire
Motion Sickness
No-Holds-Barred Beatdown
Regret
Secrets Revealed
Shivering
Survivor's Guilt
Time Loop
Used As Bait
Venom
Vermin
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Bill has proven himself to be an unreliable narrator in the book, right? So why are we taking his childhood story at face value?
My theory is that no, he was not beloved by all, but feared. Imagine a child having strange mutations and dimension shattering powers. His world was probably terrified of him.
But his parents, they weren’t afraid of him, no they loved him. They sang him songs and told him he was special despite his funny little eye, said that there was a holiday just for him. They worked overtime to make sure that no one could tell him otherwise.
They probably didn’t realize what his motives for the “liberation” were and ask “why did you do it?” Even beyond the grave. They loved him so much and protected him from so many.
So why did you do it, Billy?
And they’ll probably never know, he did it for them.
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I love how the book of bill turns Letting The Triangle Into Your Dimension into more of a moral dilemma than it was in the show, or even Journal 3. “To Bill this is only a game, but to us, it would mean the end of the world.” Except that actually, to Bill it’s his home, and it’s the ragtag gang of scrappy orphan rascals that he took charge of, gave purpose to, and became the protector/leader of, and all of their lives at stake. He tried to brush it off, but it seems like he genuinely feels responsible for them. They’re scared. Of course, they’re still criminals. If you did let them in, they would wreck your home and end/ruin lots of people’s lives, and that would be wrong. But just leaving them to die feels messed up.
I love that the book humanizes Bill without trying to convince you that anything he did wasn’t as bad as we thought. (Well, Bill is constantly trying to tell you that, but we’re all very well aware that he’s an unreliable narrator.) But he doesn’t know how the Edge of the Nightmare Realm came about. He gets defensive. (this was touched on in weirdmageddon, but I don’t see nearly enough people talking about how he can’t take what he dishes.) He’s not some master manipulator who knows you inside and out, better than you could ever know yourself or him, he just scans some of your memories for some stuff you might care about and runs with it. The only reason it worked so well with Ford was because they already had similar trauma and compatible personalities. I honestly think that if Bill had just told the truth about the true purpose of the portal that they would have been great friends. Ford -knowing what would happen this time- wouldn’t have ever tried to build the portal, but he would help Bill problem-solve to find a way to not be eaten by the Edge. Bill could get him all the information, and the context, and the what the living there was like without ever getting interdimensional travel involved, because you know he could, and then nothing bad would’ve happened, and how it really went was fucking tragic.
I love that we get even more psychological horror journal pages, even more intense than Journal 3 had. And I love that it shows us that Bill made a mistake and the consequences of it were so traumatic that his memories of that day are repressed. He’s just . . a guy. Who has too much power how ill adjusted he is.
But I am deeply annoyed at how Bill all but told us that his relationship to Ford was romantic in nature. I maintain that Ford never thought of Bill in a romantic way, because he is aroace. It’s very clear in the show, but especially in Journal 3. Anyone who tells you otherwise either has no reading comprehension skills or is retconning something. But I can’t deny that Bill clearly outlined how he would court someone, and that he has done those things to Ford. Can I pretend that was just him screwing with us because he knew we would come to that conclusion? *deep dramatic sigh* Probably not because of how how he acted when he was drunk. To yoose guys this is delightful, I know, but to me all the stuff above that I said I did like were enough to make this a fascinating dynamic. The romance part is just kind of there. All inconveniently. Making it feel less interesting and meaningful.
Will definitely do an essay on what the book of Bill implies about Billy’s home world at some point. Might make a comic about The Good Timeline where Bill was honest to begin with.
#the book of bill#gravity falls#bill cipher#ford pines#character analysis#headcanon#moral dilemma#I still don’t like Billford as a ship
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mark have you ever heard of an insane asylum???
Not really-
I have! It's a place where crazy people go, Mark. There they get isolated from the outside world and lose touch with everyone they used to know. Making sure they will die sad and alone.
That sounds..horrible!
Don't worry, silly! It's just to protect us from those people! You don't have to worry about anything...unless you're crazy?
I'm not!
That's good! Now go, you promised me you'd draw today! :)
..Did I? I don't...remember it-
Oh Mark, I think you're starting to become crazy. Perhaps you need to be there too.
What!?! NO!-
(Camera suddenly cuts off)
#mark and friends#ashur gharavi#an answer for an ask#maf#BTW DISCLAIMER!!I DO NOT BELEIVE IN THE THINGS I MAKE BILLY SAYS#HES A VERY UNRELIABLE NARRATOR OKAY HE DOES NOT REFLECT MY OPINIONS#<- ik this is obvious but. just in case yk
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currently having EMOTIONS abt your 'Billy adopts kon and it goes p good actually'. Billy's there just like oh man I'm rambling they're gonna think I'm so lame...meanwhile I as a reader (and presumably also Kon and possibly the other characters present??) are actually going 'oh my god. oh my god he's known Kon for like one singular minute and already arranged a flat according to his best predictions of Kon's needs/wants, gave Kon FIRST PICK OF BEDROOM, and has freely offered to learn how to cook AND how to drive for the sole purpose of taking better care of Kon'. like. oh my god. oh my god. Billy is so precious and I want to give him a hug. I hope Kon isn't too overwhelmed or suspicious due to Billy's enthusiasm tho lmao. (pls could there be..more? more Billy adopts kon, if possible?) anyway I love ur writing. thank you. idk how to ask from a sidelong but this is tryingahandinholdingapen btw :D
I gotchu, friend, lol. @tryingahandinholdingapen But yeah I love a good unreliable narrator, one way or the other it's just so fun peppering in all the bits of "the actual situation that the narrator is oblivious to", hahaha.
Rich people are weird, Billy decides, then sets the swiss rolls and zebra cakes and rest of the strawberry shortcakes on the counter in case Kid Flash is still hungry or Superboy wants any of them and closes the pantry. Batman’s just doing his best, he guesses. Though Billy hopes he knows how to coupon, if he’s always buying brand-name.
Well, he’s Batman. It’d be weirder if he didn’t know how to coupon, Billy figures.
It looks like Superboy ate all of his snack cake while Billy and Kid Flash were in the pantry, at least, which Billy hopes means he liked it. He doesn’t know how much real food Superboy’s had, but Batman’d said he should be fine eating solid stuff and not just whatever he’d been getting in his cloning pod. Though Billy’d still asked if they could get some bottled smoothies and protein shakes and stuff like that to keep in the fridge, just in case. He figured those might be easier for him to eat and digest, if it came up. Or like, maybe appeal to him more, if nothing else?
Billy has no idea, honestly, he’s just doing his best here. The wisdom of Solomon is pretty useful but it’s not really, like, that much of a parenting guide.
He is not going to cut Superboy in half. Like, ever. Like he understands the idea of that story but also it is an insane and incredibly freaky story and he is just not invoking it, ever. Just no way.
“If it’s alright, Captain, we should get going. We’ve got a bit of a drive to get home,” Mrs. West says, then sighs as Kid Flash empties the boxes of swiss rolls and zebra cakes in lightning-fast succession, though he leaves the strawberry shortcakes alone. Billy checks in the fridge and offers him a couple of the more filling smoothies–peanut butter and banana should be more filling, anyway, even with a speedster’s appetite. He steals those from convenience stores sometimes, when he can. He can’t be Captain Marvel all the time.
Well–maybe he could, he guesses. But he does miss being himself, sometimes.
“Thanks, man,” Kid Flash says eagerly, then immediately shotguns both smoothies.
“Wally,” Mr. West says in exasperation as Mrs. West sighs again. “Don’t eat Captain Marvel out of house and home.”
“It’s okay, we’ve got lots of food!” Billy promises cheerfully. “I work with Flash, I know how hungry he gets. I bet it’s way worse when you still have growth spurts to get through.”
“It is so much worse,” Kid Flash mutters vehemently, eyeing the empty smoothie bottles in his hands accusingly. Billy gets him another peanut butter banana one on principle. He really doesn’t want Kid Flash to be that hungry. It’s . . . not a good feeling.
“We appreciate it, Captain, really, but we’ve got snacks and a cooler in the car,” Mrs. West says.
“Oh, good,” Billy says, relieved. Mr. and Mrs. West both give him strange, inscrutable looks, then glance back to Superboy. Billy wonders if he likes peanut butter banana smoothies. Though if he liked the snack cakes, there’s strawberry banana ones too, so that might be better? And strawberry kiwi, but that’s probably less filling. “Superboy, do you want a smoothie too?”
“No,” Superboy says. Billy pauses again, then gets him a strawberry banana one and tosses it over. Superboy catches it, eyes it, and then opens it and takes a sip.
Okay, Billy thinks he’s getting the hang of this. But also they should probably talk about how “no” needs to actually mean “no”. Like, for Superboy he’s sure it’s just like that phase when toddlers want to say “no” to everything no matter what, but it’s still important for him to understand. Billy doesn’t want to accidentally upset him or overstep because Superboy doesn’t know how to really say “no” to something.
Yeah, they definitely need to talk about that, he decides.
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In case you missed it, Game Rant did an interview with Nikolay Dybowski about Pathologic 3. Here is the link for it.
And here are the bits that stood out the most to me:
Q: The non-linearity of time and how it will be related to the nature of the Town are also core story components. How did this affect design and direction?
A: Connecting non-linear time with a long, narrative-heavy story that involves many characters and cause-and-effect chains would be extremely difficult. We focused on what the player feels in the moment rather than on gathering information in the right order. The latter approach works well in shorter formats like Her Story or 12 Minutes, but in Pathologic, it would be overwhelming.
We wanted players to feel like “everything, everywhere, all at once”—similar to Billy Pilgrim in Slaughterhouse-Five. Different versions of reality coexist simultaneously, creating a “quantum” feeling for the player. Look at the time travel mechanic as an opportunity to correct mistakes, or even to make deliberate mistakes in order to unlock new paths and ideas. It is like a "sanctioned save scum."
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Q: Conversely, how will it (Pathologic 3) connect to and consider the events and characters in Pathologic 2?
A: Consider it as two subjective retellings of the same events. This is the same Town, the same twelve days, the same participants and events that occurred in the Haruspex’s story. But this is a different perspective. Like two witnesses recounting the same event in Rashomon, the stories vary greatly, each focusing on different details. Finally, we always give our heroes the right to make honest mistakes, forget, and even lie. Every narrator is an unreliable narrator.
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Q: How did Pathologic’s previous philosophical explorations help inform or play into the narrative and themes here?
A: Everything we now see as true and valuable, we’ve kept. Everything we’ve outgrown, like childhood clothes, we either reimagined and reinterpreted to give these ideas new meaning, or let go of them. After all, we’ve grown a lot (hopefully, along with the industry). When I first conceived Pathologic, I was 21 and completely alone. Now I’m 47, surrounded by incredibly talented people who enrich this universe as much as I do, and that makes a difference.
We’ve kept the idea of the tragedy of utopian projects. We kept the idea that the plague is a voice of the natural order—one that the thinking human mind cannot accept—and that it has its own truth. We retained the belief that evil cannot be defeated with its own tools or outplayed on its field; yet it can be defeated realistically in a different, orthogonal way. In another dimension.
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Q: It’s mentioned that the Bachelor is searching for an immortal man in Pathologic 3. Can you say if this is in reference to Mark Immortell?
A: No, there’s no connection between Simon Kain (one of the town’s rulers) and Mark Immortell (the director of the town theater). Mark is a clown. He awkwardly mimics Simon, parodying him, which is why he takes on this pseudonym. He's fully aware that he’s a jester, and the gesture itself is ironic.
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Q: What do you hope players will take away most from Pathologic 3?
A: The hope that humanity remains a promising and capable species.
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Also, new game pictures and screenshots dropped:
(some are old ones I forgot to post)
#I'm trying to take everything at face value and not develop expectations or theories#Because getting expectations for a game not yet out just leads to disappointment#Ice-pick Lodge did great creating the last two games and took them in a direction that I couldn't have predicted#I must have faith in them to deliver with Pathologic in an innovative way that I couldn't have possibly predicted#Even if it contradicts with their past claims/visions#Even if it means my expectations remain unfulfilled#I want to enjoy the story they want to tell. Not the story I hope to be told#I want to experience their cohesive artistic vision and not my own wishfullfilment dreaming#pathologic 3#Likewise there is no mischaractersiation#Keep in mind they reinvented so many character's personalities between P1 and P2#Alexander Saburov is the biggest example#Or even Eva's whole look#They did say p3 will be a retelling through a different perspective and not an astute recounting from a crystal clear memory#so they might do it again in p3#The only thing constant is change#pathologic#♧p3
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