#unhinge Virgil

[wouldyoustayvn]

AUGHHH HIS EYES WHENEVER HE’S UNHINGE

[yourchemicallyimbalancedromance]

sanders (a)sides spoilers!!!!

WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW EPISODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AS AN ANALOGICAL AND MOCEIT SHIPPER I AM ABSOLUTELY LOSING MY SHIT OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD

THE WAY VIRGIL MADE LIKE A PUZZLE TYPE THING FOR LOGAN BECAUSE HE KNEW HE WOULD LOVE IT??? OH MY GOD

THE CARD THAT JANUS MADE FOR PATTON 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 IM SO HDKDKRKDKKDKFKEKRKRNEOEOEOIFPWIFOEJFKSORKDLKDDK

THE END CARD WITH NICO????? I ACTUALLY SCREAMED /POS

THE WAY JANUS AND REMUS TRIED TO RILE LOGAN UP TO MAKE HIM ANGRY IM GONNA LOSE MY MIND HELLLLLLOOOOOO???????

THE WAY VIRGIL KNOWS ABOUT THE INSIDE JOKE BETWEEN JANUS AND REMUS WITH HOW MR FUZZY WAS MADE AND HIM HATING THAT HE KNOWS ABOUT IT OH MY GOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDD

THE WAY THOMAS SAYS “YOURE DOING GOOD LOGAN” AWEEREEHRHEHEHHDJEHRJEIRKRJEJRJ IM GONNA SOB AND CRY AND HEAVE ON THE FLOOR AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND—

[jaratedeguadalupe]

it's always cat virgil and never dog remus 

[imhere-imqueer-ilikedeer]

Help me and my friend starting shrieking about sanders sides in front of our whole grade

[hootnhoney]

I torture them because I love them+ Virgil

I think some good old hanaki disease would fit this one

[anachronistic-falsehood]

I'M GONNA BE HANGING OUT WITH MY IRL FRIENDS TOMORROW SO UR GONNA HAVE MORE TIPSY WHISKEY POSTING AGAIN IN ABOUT 24 HOURS I HOPE UR ALL READY

[annaizscribbling]

I sometimes feel guilty for using the same tropes whenever I write the sides,

Then I remember nobody else writes the same tropes so I'm actually doing everyone a favor

[anxiety-side-central]

cradles by sub urban is a good song

[soysaucevictim]

Just some fun character notes for the Promethean!Sides...

[t4t-apexeclipse]

which two sides would have the best time getting high together

and alternatively… which two sides would have the worst time getting high

[jaratedeguadalupe]

Virgil: I can’t believe we’re stuck in this room together

Janus, swallowing the key: yes truly unfortunate

[edorazzi]

More Thunderbirds Are Go! With an idea I couldn't shake; Kayo being the only one qualified to escort Penny to society events and "discourage" potential suitors (while shamelessly stealing Gordon's girl)! 🌸🗡️

The boys are all cute but Scott will have half a drink then idly drop some unhinged traumatic experience into polite conversation; Virgil will start lowkey stalking the unvaccinated guests; John hasn't come out of hiding since the Charity Auction Incident™; Gordon will free the buffet crabs into the ocean before showing off "cool" x-rays from the time he broke every bone in his body; and Alan will eat too many desserts, feel ill, then end up hiding under the table to play video games. Kayo is Penny's only hope of preserving any dignity! 😮‍💨

[theeerealpunkin]

Patton: H-How long has it been since the two of you slept?

Remus & Logan: Who cares?! We gotta show you something! *vibrating in place, definitely didn't sleep in the last 40 hours*

Virgil: *hisses & backs away, slowly*

Janus: *sighs, already preparing his special tea*

It's @intrulogicalweek day 2: unhinged (no I'm not late, shut up)

[sanders-sides-uncorrect-quotes]

I haven't watched the show in quite awhile but I do remember that season 1 and season 2 have different vibes (at least for me), I wonder how Remus and Janus would've looked (did they have a costume change along with the other sides?, etc) and acted if Virgil didn't leave them/they appeared in season 1 before AA, and how C!Thomas would've felt about them and Anxiety (would knowing that there are more "bad guys" make him see him differently?) if that happened

I'm kinda fixated on sasi again for the first time in over 3 years but only specifically on an au I made up in my head where the other 3 dark sides (Janus, Remus, Orange) are all introduced before Accepting Anxiety happens and so all 4 of them cause chaos together

I really love pre-aa Virgil and I want the dark sides to act like a family and/or a completely unhinged friend group (and for them to violently defend Virgil when the core sides mostly Roman used to be mean to him in season 1)

[seeminglyseph]

I really appreciate that Eurylochus in Epic I am pretty sure is adapted from a character in the original who is at the very least somewhat antagonistic and cowardly in characterization and has spun him into a compelling and interesting character who has genuinely caused the fandom to basically to be like “but was he wrong though?”

Because like, the fact that at multiple points both Odysseus and Eurylochus have been right at different points of their adventure and just too fucked up emotionally or too “we can’t talk about things” to like. Clear up the issues they were having, means that they just. Became a tragedy.

And it is especially beautiful because Eurylochus and Polites bring this weight of friendship and loss to Odysseus in Epic, despite their existence in the Odyssey fully lacking that characterization. Though I think it is part of the miscommunication at times because like. Perspective. And if you try to look up extra information from the source text to give more context, Eurylochus is so different in that source text that like… it will back up arguments in favour of Odysseus more easily. But modern sensibilities side with Eurylochus more easily due to monarchs and tyrants like… heavily falling out of favour. So things like kings, gods, princes, captains, status, and rank are like… they exist but they aren’t seen the same.

Like the Odyssey is set in the Mycenaean age, late Bronze Age. This was a tale of ancient times when Homer was telling it. So by modern standards things can’t help but be archaic in ways. Especially given that The Iliad and Odyssey have so much to do with colonization and war and just like. Contemplating it. Existing in it and the aftermaths of it, and being conscious that it is being told to a world of people who are still acting and living in a unifying country due to colonization, that is expanding and growing its power with war and language and colonization. And the stories of the past wars are both glorious and tragic because of the necessity for glory to the heroes of the past but caution and understanding that…

Like Troy was once favoured by Zeus, that favour can be lost or swayed. Only the gods can count on their power lasting for eternity, men must know that a grudge can bloom anywhere and topple the mightiest kingdom if he does not mind his actions carefully.

The Aeneid, by Virgil which is written much later and I admit I have only read a summary, refers to Odysseus (through his Roman name Ulysses) really negatively, but that’s partially because the Romans kinda saw themselves as refugees and survivors of Troy. So like. By the time the Aeneid was being written, it was kinda the story of “those bastards who burnt our home down” from what I understand.

“Who lives, who dies, who tells your story?” For realsies. Looking things up apparently the Aeneid was the most popular version of both the Odyssey and the Iliad for a while and it wasn’t until the World Wars that Homer’s versions came back into fashion. Part of that was translation issues but still, damn.

This has become the most unhinged ramble, I’m sorry. I don’t know what any of this is even about. Translation? Perspective? Adaptation? The power of storytelling? All of it? Honestly the fact of the matter is that Eurylochus has been adapted to a new character for Epic, but he fits the narrative of the Odyssey especially as far as we need it to be told today because of how power structures work, but it’s been executed extremely well.

It keeps the technicalities of the traits of the poem “cowardice” and “mutiny” and creates a character with insecurity and missing sense of self who is afraid in a reasonable way and in order to overcome that fear reacts with aggression or violence. But in a way that is encouraged, acceptable or rewarded for a soldier. However, as a second in command, he is accustomed to having a role where he checks Odysseus’ plans for flaws. This is a good position to have him in when you’re plotting a battle action, it’s a bad position to have him in when you need him to provide a united front to keep the crew from panicking.

His position as both one of the crew and Odysseus’ Right Hand Man puts him in a position where he gets part of Odysseus’ picture, and is used to a relationship where he can be comfortable and doubtful and easy with Odysseus, however Odysseus as the Captain and the King cannot be fallible in the eyes of his men, because his men need to be able to follow his orders without question in the case of a crisis or it will be a serious issue.

Honestly the whole “I need you to be able to trust me and follow my orders in a crisis” is… part of general insubordination going on into modern day practice in crisis response and military as far as I understand it so like. I do get that. Though like. They are… two deeply damaged and traumatized men who just… cannot have a proper conversation with each other.

And also I am of the opinion that Odysseus in Puppeteer, when he brushes off Eurylochys’ attempted confession with his

“There's only so much left we can endure”

I am pretty sure that is not just brushing off, that is fully Odysseus admitting to Eurylochus like “I can’t handle anything else, please.” Like. My brain is making parallels to FMA “terrible day for rain” and Eurylochus drops it because he’s looking at a man on the verge of breaking down, and grants him some dignity or peace.

I mean Mutiny calls back to Puppeteer when Odysseus calls Eurylochus out, he would have done the same. Eurylochus wanted to cut and run on Circe’s island, leaving the men she had to their fate. But since Odysseus has all the power he carries all the blame, which makes it easier when any of the others make a mistake or something goes wrong. And it’s part of the reason Ody goes back to being Captain as soon as the crew is in trouble again. If they’ve angered a god, it’s better and easier to have Odysseus deal with it.

Unfortunately for everyone Odysseus has now crossed the Despair Event Horizon and all that matters is Penelope, Telemachus, and Ithaca. Everyone else can go fuck themselves.

Which, you know. Bodes well for all the fucked up dweebs who’ve been harassing his family for years. That’s probably gonna go great for them considering all the last shreds of his humanity he sacrificed to get home and see them safe.

[let-roman-bite-someone]

thinking about how Logan cracking under pressure would be the final straw in Thomas's sanity. not saying that Thomas would become completely unhinged when Logan cracks. but it's gonna be pretty hard to function with faulty or unreliable logic. Logan can't duck out like Virgil did, so he's gonna be forced to continue operating as Thomas's logic under the same circumstances.

and in this situation, Thomas is going to be even more easily swayed by his emotions. we already saw what happened when Logan temporarily left the group (but was still active as Thomas's logic) in Moving On pt 2. they all went absolute batshit; Virgil was having a panic attack, Roman was encouraging Thomas to act on impulse and make irrational decisions, and Patton was also somewhat panicking, refusing to take sides or handle the situation.

it's gonna be this but ten times worse when Logan finally loses it, especially since Roman is also not in a very good position right now. Patton and Virgil aren't cooperating like they used to either, so chaos is definitely going to break out.

and I'm thinking about how all of this is going to affect Thomas's relationship with Nico. we haven't seen much of their relationship and while it looks healthy enough so far, we already know that Thomas isn't exactly ready for a committed relationship. his frustration with Nico not responding to his text in WTIT says everything.

of course, he isn't going to intentionally hurt Nico but there's a possibility that his emotional turmoil and repression is eventually going to affect their relationship badly. i don't blame Patton for being cautious about this new relationship, he might have to deal with another heartbreak again if Thomas isn't careful.