#uber&leet posting

[f1rewalk3r]

too many of you guys are sleeping on the Uber & Leet X Jerma985 “Seaman” themed seaworld orca rescue heist. its just criminal that the view count is so low!

[heart-shaped-pupa]

when people used to post about capes and gamers I used to think "ah yes, like the travelers C: smile" now everywhere i look i see them

[riverkingmarley]

Like if you cry every time.

[cleopatraphouse]

The perfect casting for Uber and Leet in a live action Worm adaption would be the two guys from 3OH!3, circa 2008

[heyitschartic]

INCREDIBLY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER SOUND

They're Boober and Teat

That or E-Girl and Booby Trap

[ewingstan]

Is there any parahumans character who would have gotten into crypto? Besides Uber and Leet I mean.

Lisa's probably run a few investment scams promising blockchain-backed play-to-earn game development but she prolly wouldn't have touched the actual tech.

I could imagine Rain being weirdly credulous about crypto having non-speculative uses. Being raised in an apocalypse cult might prime you for the whole "this can be an actually usable currency without government backing" pitch. But even that wouldn't be the same as being "into" crypto in the post-boom investor way.

Krouse and Cody both seem like valid options here but both of them had too much going on to cultivate an OpenSeas wallet.

I feel like there's an obvious pick here I'm missing.

[hugintheraven]

How to fix Amy Dallon

This is mostly me getting my thoughts in order. I doubt I will ever write Amy fix-it fic, but I want to have this just in case.

So the thing is, I don't think wretching Victoria was inevitable, far from it. That took a very specific set of circumstances. HOWEVER, "Amy does something selfish and harmful with her power that she can't fix, spirals and blames herself, does worse stuff in response"? I think that was fairly likely.

The problem is...a problem is...the various problems are...well I'll simplify. First, she has no support structure. Mark is useless, Carol is actively exacerbating her issues, and the rest of the family is their own kettle of fish. Victoria is the only person looking out for Amy, which quite aside from how that affects Amy, means that when Amy is in trouble, she turns to Victoria for help. If Victoria isn't around, then Amy has literally no one. Any friends she has are friends through Victoria, and I doubt the teenage superhuman is on friendly terms with her coworkers at the hospital(though seriously the professionals there should have noticed her issues LONG AGO).

Then we have Amy's power. Which is pushing her to use it in aggressive, selfish, and harmful ways. She's holding that off through sheer force of will, but that's not sustainable.

There's also her physical and mental limits. She's working her power to the limit normally, not sleeping, and straining herself to do more. Which isn't good at the best of times, let alone long-term.

All of which is tied up with the psychological issues package, her self-hate, feelings of inadequacy, severe dichotomous view of the world, etc.

Her crush on Victoria is a problem for her, don't get me wrong. But I don't think it's at all the main source, or even a significant chunk, of what was needed for Amy to screw up SOMETHING.

Here's what I see as needed for Amy to end up going villain(in her eyes and possibly the eyes of the law): A significant crisis that strains her control further, and Amy not being able to talk to Victoria about it. That's it. That leads to Amy losing control of her power and not having anyone around to keep her from doubling down. The specific circumstances in canon(she screws up Victoria, after a month of fighting with her family, post-Endbringer, and then her downfall is pushed along by Jack Slash) is what led to the Victoria flesh-coffin etc, but "Amy breaks someone she can't fix, freaks out, makes things worse" was a pretty logical place for her to end up given...everything.

So how can this be avoided? We can't stop constant crises from occurring, this is Brockton Bay. And the longer things go, the more tired she gets, thus the smaller the needed crisis would be. And fixing her mental issues probably takes a team of professionals a few years.

Step one, therefor, is bulking up her support structure. Doesn't matter if it's Taylor, Lisa, a SI char, having Amy join the Wards/Travellers/Uber and Leet/a book club, whatever. Just have her talking about her life on a regular basis to SOMEONE who she isn't related to. Preferably more than one person, otherwise there's still a risk of her turning a child into a Nilbog creation while her new friend and Victoria are both busy.

Next, we remove her from some of her sources of stress(meaning Carol). Anything you try to do while Carol is still around will just be undone by Carol's pressures.

THEN we introduce the team of professional head-shrinkers. This could happen earlier, since a therapist is one more person Amy can call with "I just screwed up", but I distrust Carol's reaction to her disliked daughter seeking professional help. (and it doesn't have to be a professional TBH, just someone to help work through her issues, but a professional is both trained in not making things worse and also is disconnected from the broader cape community, which lets them be objective in a way that, say, Lisa isn't).

Now I don't think this stops Amy from eventually losing control of her power and hurting someone. And she probably still can't fix it, her shard is canonically a dick. There's enough crises in the Bay to both make her overwork and to make her break her rules at some point, even if it's not specifically the S9 who does it. But if she screws up when she has multiple people she can call for advice, when she's been away from Carol's additional stress, and when someone's been unpacking her list of issues, I think further damage could be prevented and Amy could keep helping people despite the bumps.

[scarfgirl]

weird worm shit posting but i saw some art of fem uber and fem leet running around and im all for it . my take on it Leet being a total sugar gremlin who is not adverse to conflict (but is adverse to regularly changing clothes or brushing her hair ...swet pants for life /cheeto stained lips and fingers !) and has incredible up and down mood swings (usually because a favorite piece of gear got destroyed followed by a upswing as a new favored piece of gear she just created comes into creation ) she has some old favs that have stood the test of time like her Captain N the game master belt and gun , her power glove , pokeball ,back to the future hover board and ghostbusters spagetti strainer cap and dosnt always bring all her gear with her (knowing that once its gone its gone !) Uber could go and be successful on her own (she is athletic and good looking ) but god she loves the little cheeto eating nerd and ubers twitch stream actually got a influx of viewers when teamed with leet (prior to leet joining it was more of a T and A fake gamer girl stream but sad swety men paid the bills ) with leet helping pick out cool characters for Uber to cosplay as, current games that resonated with the player base as well as the two of them good naturedly arguing and fighting (viewers will try to goad leet into going anger gremlin in the comments ) uber enjoys the cosplay hijinks even if most of the costumes are less then productive for fighting and running (wardrobe malfuntions are definitely a thing ) they generally avoid prolonged conflicts much prefering to run in , cause a commotion, steal or tag something then run away and usually picks targets that will resonate with their viewers and avoiding harming innocents civilians (though innocent civilians will be bumped , bruised and inconvienced !)

[witchofanguish]

every day I see proof that uber and leet are synonymous

okay i can't read this any more this person should read worm just so they can scream at people about how wildbow said uber died in brazil and indonesia has cyborgs or whatever the fuck

[skitter-queen]

uber says: i want you to "upvote" your "post" in my "amitheasshole"

what does leet say?

[bug4932]

natural evolution of twigbox is uber and leet posting

[shakertwelve]

uber and leet are yuri for redditofs

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[eight-freakin-gids]

Just saw your Epithet Erased/ Worm post. There's an entire crossover fanfic between them titled "Epithets of Bet". Baiscally, Uber & Leet (2 gamer Parahumans) make a device that swaps people between universes, shenanigans ensue. Link here.

Neat! Fun to know others have noticed the similarities between these series

[skitter-queen]

its true though. my blog is really more of a PVE zone. my next uber and leet post will function like a raid boss.

ⓘ loading screen tip @skitter-queen is the only safe, pvp-free wormblr blog.

[ewingstan]

Something else about Alec—when we first see him on the field, he’s remarkably less intimidating than the other Undersiders, with a costume much less fear-inspiring and more straight-up gimmicky. I’ve talked about the Undersider’s costumes before, but one of the subtler differences between Worm and more “traditional” superhero media is how the villains’ costumes and personas often don’t have the same level of camp to them that comic villains do. There’s much more focus on practicality, where the only thing that matters aesthetically about a costume is that it communicates “don’t fuck with me.” Every hero in worm has a detailed, practical-yet-aesthetically-pleasing costume, but you run into villain capes with no costume or only the bare bones of one all the time. Rachel’s dressed like a horror movie slasher, Brian doesn’t bother with more ornamentation than an intimidating helmet. Lisa looks the part of your Saturday-morning villain, but she’s more invested in doing that than most because her cops-and-robbers theory—plus, when she’s in action she’s nearly always the scariest person in the room. And Lung, the first supervillain we meet, doesn’t have a costume at all, just a commanding presence. In contrast, the next set of villains Taylor meets, Uber and Leet, are established as losers no one takes seriously partially through having costumes that are just gimmicky. Early worm establishes that the successful villains in this setting are focused on being scary before anything else. Considering the extend Taylor internalizes the “be feared or die” strategy as the story goes on, it’s important for Worm to set that dynamic up quickly at the beginning, even if later characters break this rule*.

But early Regent doesn’t care about being scary. He struts into the battlefield like he’s Gorgeous George**, complete with a costume that wouldn’t look out of place in professional wrestling. He spends less time trying to act intimidating when fighting people and more time trying to get people to forget he’s there until he can steal their cool canon. He’s not trying to scare heroes or rival villains off like the others are, and that’s largely because he didn’t create the Regent persona to scare away people and make crime easier—he made the Regent persona to have a life away from his horrible family. It’s an early indication that Alec’s motivation for being here are not the same as everyone else’s—the other Undersiders are criminals for a living, and are using their personas as tools for their job. Alec is in this to have a good time in a way he didn’t get to in his old life, and is using his Regent persona as a form of play.

*for the later successful villains who DO care a lot about aesthetics, such as Accord or Trickster, their motivation for bucking the trend tend to says a lot about them. But that’s a different post.

**now I have the image stuck in my head of Alec coming to an important villain meeting in an evening gown, puppeting his henchmen to spread a carpet of rose petals ahead of him. Fuck he’d love doing that. The real tragedy of the Behemoth fight is that it robbed us of Aisha and Alec forming the best tag-team heel duo the wrestling world has ever seen.

[sigmaleph]

A thing I am grappling with re: Worm's worldbuilding is that I am not sure what are the mechanics that make it so that most supervillains (that don't draw too much ire) have careers for extended periods. It's implied that gangs try to break out their people out of prison whenever they are captured, and we see this happen with e.g. Lung. Obviously Lung/Oni Lee are not easy to capture in the first place, so their continued existence as threats makes sense. Similarly the Empire has the numbers to try to mount a rescue for anyone, and they're implied to have a high turnover anyway. But what about lesser villains? Lisa more or less says outright that minor villains are let out of jail, or at least their escape attempts are unimpeded. I don't think you can take the "cops and robbers" framework as given, there's multiple steps of motivated reasoning in that conversation, but I wouldn't think she makes that out of whole cloth. The practical question is, how often should you expect a villain who is not a major threat (say, doesn't have a murder to their name) to actually escape from the heroes, vs be captured and 'let go' one way or another, vs actually stay in prison for a while or get recruited for the Protectorate or otherwise end their villainous career? (the practicality of the question is, of course, that I'm writing fanfic and I don't know what a realistic getaway rate is for Uber and Leet, because them consistently escaping from the heroes seems unlikely, but so does them getting broken out of jail, and yet they continue to exist)

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