#type of guy to say “dont mind if i do”
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binmeister · 2 days ago
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Any thoughts about the Saja boys with a Deaf reader? I can imagine them not understanding what hearing aids are or not understanding KSL, except maybe Mystery (thats mostly because I headcannon him as selectively mute.)
Some loose thoughts and HCs for this, pardon if this isn’t super clean!
I feel like the eras where they had been alive and human it was extremely rare to have come across someone who was deaf or someone who wasn’t “normal” - heavy on the quotations
Their time as demons maybe theyd come across one or two deaf demons, a lot of mute ones, but maybe not as many known deaf ones bc telepathy was a thing so some demons didnt talk using their vocal cords anyway so it wasnt uncommon for someone to never talk or have an uncommon way of speaking
I also believe in selectively mute Mystery, but I dont think he knows that KSL exists - Im thinking of some of your first interactions is you being a little confused on him not even mouthing words; a way you had been taught to understand people was to lip read and subconsciously your mouth would make the same shapes even though the sound would be inaccurate - so you communicate with the tiny notepad you bring around or with your phone, scribbling down what you wanted to say or typing it out and showing him
Out of all the guys I think Mystery or Romance are the fastest to learn KSL, mystery because it ended up a useful tool for him to communicate and Romance bc.. i just picture him as someone who would care enough to do so
There’d be a day where Romance surprises you as he speaks to you and signs at the same time, revelling in the way your eyes light up and you happily sign back at him your signs a little messy with your shock and he teases you that maybe you should work on your signing bc he couldnt understand you, you’d playfully smacked his shoulder after that
Jinu was confused, that was for sure - saw you fiddling with your hearing aids and was confused on why you were wearing a strange looking in ear, were you an idol or performer? But then he realises that when he spoke out to you, your eyes were laser focussed on the way his mouth moved and he would unintentionally slow his speech which lead you to huff at him like ‘how dare you, im not dumb’ - you’d signed it at him rapidly, voice making little incomprehensible protests as well and then it clicks to him that the hand gestures you were making had meaning with the emphasis you put on some motions
Honestly can imagine Jinu going to a public library and trying to learn about it but not knowing what exactly he was trying to learn, so he pesters Rumi about it til she breaks and teaches him the basics of it (HC is the girls had learned at least basic KSL bc they seem like the type who want to be able to communicate with all of their fans)
Abby my sweet bulky man, has absolutely no clue how you exist bc i highly believe in the era he lived in , it was you HAD to be the strongest to survive so hes surprised youve lived until adult hood with being deaf and unable to be majorly alert with your surroundings especially sound
You’d have given him a brief explanation on how much your can hear - maybe it varies where youre able to hear a little clearer with the assistance of your hearing aids but theres still a noticeable ‘sound’ in the way you talk with your voice and hands that would make them all realise that you were deaf: tries his best to learn KSL or is more mindful of the way he talks or moves his mouth so that its easier to lip read
I feel like out of all of them, Abby struggles the most to learn KSL but he puts in some of the most effort bc he’s starting to be able to understand you - just his execution is clumsy so he signed a cuss word at you once and you were laughing soundlessly at him to the point of tears and hes confused and flustered
Baby was perceptive, probably clocks the fact youre deaf the fastest aside from Mystery and he notices that sometimes youre furrowing your brows at him when he talks because his voice had gone too low that your hearing aids had actually struggled to pick it up - the way his mouth is usually in some kind of smug smile didnt help either because it warped the shape of his mouth and you looked a little upset at yourself for struggling to understand him
He’d pluck your phone from you to type what he said, or if your little notepad was in your hand he’d gesture for you to give it to him and he writes what he said instead - though he does become more mindful as well on his annunciation of words instead of being a little lazy in how he speaks
Highkey.. i dont think Baby learns KSL in full or even most of the basics but he does absorb the common signs you use so hes able to understand you at least, maybe a little more bc he likes the way your eyes twinkle when his hands sign along with some of the common words he uses
I am a believer that Baby would he the type to check what cuss words existed in KSL and refuse to believe anything else
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zombieluvrgrl · 2 days ago
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˚₊ · »-♡→ dating toki wartooth !
⟢ havent written in yearss so im rusty, sorry if theyre ooc!! please reblog, like and comment if you enjoyed it really helps me! :)
(also accepting requests! sfw & nsfw so send them my way)
ps. these are LONG! under the cut <3
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⟢ expect cuddles whenever physically possible - i mean this guy is the type of bf to hold your hand while youre on the toilet just bc he misses you
⟢ toki's also incredibly generous, forgiving and loving, showering you with sweet and innocent gifts and always excited to suggest cute dates together!
⟢ he loves to treat you with plushies of your favourite shows and games as well as special candy (maybe his favourite Norwegian candy so you two can bond over it?!)
⟢ at mordhaus expect board games, DDR battles and taking the lunchables away from toki before his dumbass burns them on the stove again. oh and getting super sloppy drunk in the hot tub
⟢ outside, he loves shopping with you, visiting the zoo and hanging out at yours watching shows together!
⟢ OBVIOUSLY you get free tickets to every show and has the kloketeers get you anything you want; a comfier seat? snacks? merch? booze? on it!
⟢ youll be introduced to the rest of dethklok (if you dont already know each other!) early on, about a month in - yes its intense but the man loves you and knows youre the one for him! he wants his family to love you too!
⟢ you two are definitely cheesy and theres no escaping the allegations. nathan thinks its cute and deep down just wants the little guy to be happy, murderface has to hold in his throw up and skwisgaar as already thrown up from cringe like three times. get away from skwisgaar yous twos
⟢ lets face it you two have lockets with each others pictures inside
⟢ toki is absolutely a hopeless romantic and it may have negative consequences but he definitely over romanticises relationships in a very naive way
⟢ but that doesn't mean he isn't extremely loving and caring! toki is so much so it could be considered overwhelming;
⟢ he feels safe with you so expect to see him vulnerable; you may be the person he confides in the most out of anyone he knows- this can be both good and bad! let me explain:
whenever he experiences night terrors youre the first to know, whatever is on his mind he'll bring straight to you! hes not afraid to cry on your shoulder or ask you to pet and brush his hair when he feels anxious. But because youre his no.1 confidant this also means there might be times where he unloads a lot of intense feelings onto you because he doesn't know what to do when he's experiencing side effects of trauma and stress. he doesn't do it maliciously but he doesn't see how this potentially could be overwhelming and exhausting
⟢ on the plus side, he's an amazing listener because of this. i think out of everyone in the band (besides nathan, who i'd say he's on par with), toki is least likely to get defensive or argue whenever you two disagree or need to communicate- he takes everything on board seriously because he wants to please you and make things work (hes not in this for a short time, hes in it for life)
⟢ at his core he is insanely dedicated; youll never worry about being outshined by groupies or fangirls, matter of fact once youre in the picture toki can barely tolerate touchy fans because all other people pale in comparison to his beautiful wonderful amazing partner!!
⟢ as busy and troubled as he is, hell always make time for you! if you also struggle with your health (physical or mental) hell help as much as he can. therapy? paid for. comfort items? he got them for you. your favourite/safe foods? ALWAYS stocked up in the kitchen!! need a hug? you dont even need to ask
⟢ and last but not least, he loves playing with your hair and LOOOVES when you do the same! play with his mustache, he gets so giggly. he adores how cute you are together. if you ever do his hair or corpse paint he'll never want to take it off
✦ .  ⁺   . ✦ .  ⁺   . ✦ ✦ .  ⁺   . ✦ .  ⁺   . ✦
thank you for reading! im thinking of making a part 2 because i love toki sm and i have so many ideas <3
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deveondog · 2 days ago
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HIII I read some of your fics and I am proud to say I will not jump and giggle everytime you post. You've gained a very excited fan!! :p
Okay ahem ahem, may I perchance request a fic with male!reader and Jalim, where the reader is really friendly and just looks kind, but then when it comes to music his taste does a COMPLETE 180° and it's either straight up metal / rock music, or it's songs with some rather unsettling themes (i.e mind brand, the lost child and the fox spirit and insert like nearly every other Vocaloid song) okay bye please don't turn into confetti!!! (◍•ᴗ•◍)
Metal taste
ft: Kalim al-Asim & Jamil Viper
A/N: Didnt know if u wanted this romantic or platonic sorhis is a more friendly platonic fic, so i apologize if u wanted romantic!! i hope everything looks ok..
cw?: Male reader. So he/him pronouns are used!
Reader is not Yuu, its really slow paced and doesn't go a-lot into the Jamil until the end ish, i forgot i was writing for him until halfway so im really sorry!! so its a bit rushed
Request?: Yep!!! thanks for sending this in anon! and dont worry!! i haven't turned into confetti ye– ouch! hey.. hey!! AHH—🎉
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You were a nice guy most people thought, always offering to help with homework, cleaning up after lunch and so on. A kind soul. So it's safe to say you got along with Kalim– housewarden of Scarabia– pretty well! You and him were like two peas in a pod it seemed. Everyone was either super happy or annoyed when you two came around, depending on Kalims energy levels that day.
You two were currently chatting it up in Scarabias lounge. Saying whatever was on your minds that day. "Oh Oh!!!! Today we played a new song in the light music club!! It was something Lilia recommended!" "Ooooh do tell Kalim!!" Kalim nodded and continued– "It was something that was kind of eerie and spooky but it sounded so awesome! Like it tickled my bone in just the right ways...!" He frantically searched for his phone before remembering- "Oh crap! Jammmill!!" Kalim whines, making Jamil look up from his homework while cocking an eyebrow. "I think i left my phone in the classroom! Can we go get it? I wanna show him the song we played today!"
Jamil started getting up but then you interrupted with, "Its alright for now, we can go get it later, besides it will be a distraction when we start doing homework. Here, just my phone Kalim!" Kalim nods fast and grabs your phone when you hand it to him. "Whats your password!!!!" "Oh sevens give it back to me you big baby." You say as you glance back to Jamil, seeing he's eyeing you. Ooookay then..
Once your password is in, you go to open the music app you have and search the song. Kalim grabs your phone before you can even get to the search bar and aggressively starts tagging on your phone screen. "Careful Kalim!" You tease "Dont wanna break my phone now do you?" "Well even if I do, I can just buy you one hundred more!!!" He's so happy to have you around, Jamil thinks it's ok to let his guard down a little bit. Kalim finishes searching the song. Then looks even more happy if thats even possible. "Hey it says you've liked the song already!!! I didn't know you liked this type of music!" Kalim looks at you with wide eyes and smiles happily. Jamil is now looking concerned. Just what is this music..
Kalim plays the song and turns up your phone to max volume, for the ultimate affect! Jamil has to cover his ears because its so loud. But he sees you and Kalim banging your heads the the rhythm, and then when the vocals come on? On sevens save Jamils sour soul.. It sounds like the most demonic thing ever is Jamils eyes.. ears? But it does sound good. He cant deny that. He slowly uncovers his ears and hears you and Kalim singing to the music. As he listens he actually is able ti start and hear the lyrics behind the dark snd strangled vocals. And the lyrics sound.. relatable.. realistic and harsh. They hit his soul in a way music hasn't before.
The song ends and you and Kalim are gasping for air. "No I– love that songg!! Haah.. Its been in my like for- awhile.." You say, catching your breath. "Lilia just showed it to me and Cater today!! It sounds awesome! I think i might start listening ti this artist more!" Kalim shouts, seemingly having caught his breath already? You continue to heave for a bit before composing yourself and looking at Jamil. He is awestruck. His eyes wide and glossy. "Jami, you okay man?" Jamil stares.. then blinks.. the coughs and composes himself. "Yes yes.. I am okay dont worry hek" He coughs again, hoping you wont notice the slip up.
You eye him for a moment more before going back to Kalim, who started rambling again about the type of music hes getting into.
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Soon enough, homework is somehow done and you're getting reader to leave back to your dorm. Kalim waves you off with Jamil behind him. Looking at the ground like it's the most interesting thing since magic.
You hear Kalim walking back to the dorm when you feel a tap on your shoulder. You turn and see Jamil with his head deep in his hoodie. Eyes peeking out from at you. "Uhm hey.." This is awkward... "Hi Jamil.. Do you need something? Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression of me." "No no it's not that uh, it's actually umhhh.." He squirms. Like hes not used to asking people things which is odd for him.. Eh.. "What was that songs name.." He finally gets out. You blink, and he sinks deeper into his hoodie. "Oh! Of course sorry! I can send you the link if you want, its kind of hard to spell.. Whats your number?" Jamil looks at you unexpectedly, and pulls out his phone for you. He should be more weary than this.. why is he just giving this to you so easy.. You insert your number into his phone and then send the song to him. He thanks you and then walks back to Scarabia. But before you can go you hear– "Thanks.." you smile back at him and continue on through the mirror.
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Its been a couple weeks and you and Jamil have been sharing songs you like together. He was shocked at first, someone like you– so bright and kind, liking such brutal metal music. Then, he got used to it. No one is as they seem. Hell, Kalim isn't all sunshine and rainbows he knows it, but it still catches him off guard sometimes when you send him such an unsettling song..
Safe to now saw, you are friends with Scarabias house and vice housewarden. One for matching energy. And the other for matching music taste.
And, you could have sworn you saw Jamil with a hoodie to your favorite band....
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A/N: Hi welcome!!! Might make a part 2 with a romance aspect! i like this trope between reader and jamil actually so yeah!! dont hold me two it though...
Thanks for reading! <3
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evilyesman · 9 months ago
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Nick Valentine the type of guy to say "he's right behind me isn't he"
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ribbononline · 25 days ago
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Atlus. Atlus. Atlus are you listening? Are you here with me Atlus. Atlus come closer. There's just one thing. Just one thing I need you to do for me Atlus. In P4R you are going to give Teddie a better translation. Okay Atlus? You are going to make it clearer when he's parroting stuff you are going to let him reference manzai just once. You are going to change 'scoring' to something more accurate. Atlus are you listening? Atlus- Atlus come back- ATLUS. ATLUS COME BACK ATLUS---
#persona 4#p4#p4r#p4g#persona teddie#ATLUS YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE TRANSLATE TEDDIE BETTER FOR ME OK ATLUS#i wish i did not care anymore after all these years but this fuckign guy was my hyperfixation for. basically my entire teenage years#and the idea that hes once again going to be taken as a mineta type character is killing me inside#you hate teddie because hes a creep. i hate atlus because they took the once character with a crippling fear of abandonment and an intense#need for people to like him. but is also SO bad at understanding social cues and norms hes sabotaging himself. and THEN ONLY USED THAT#AS AN EXCUSE TO MAKE CREEPY JOKES ABOUT THE GIRLS!!! AGHH#AND IN ENGLISH ITS NOT EVEN CLEAR HE DOESNT KNOW WTF HES TALKIGN ABT!! WAAAAAAAHHHH#hes not understanding the girls are actually mad at him he thinks theyre doing a MANZAI ROUTINE HES TAKEN HIS SOCIAL CUES FROM#A BUNCH OF TEENAGERS. THEIR SHADOWS. AND TV PROGRAMS!#SOBBING. reliving the actual hell it was to have THIS GUY as the one i related to the most#BECAUSE SAYING THAT TO SOMEONE WITH NO FURTHER CONTEXT YOU ARE GOING TO SOUND INSANE !!!!#in my dreams you would have him make stupid comments.a nd then get an actual scene SITTING HIM DOWN AND EXPLAINIGN THINGS TO HIM#because the misunderstanding of how social norms n honestly just conversations in general work is so fucking. mood buddy. i dont need them#to just fuly take that out. not at all! but please dont just use it for jokes. TALK TO HIM GIVE THIS STUPID BEAR A CHANCE. WEHHH#i never mention teddie because 1 the reasons above. his english translation is the worst you will sound insane. n 2. the fandom is um Bad#but god he still spins around in my mind daily. i am so worried about p4r. be kind to my stupid bear son atlus i am on my knees
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exlimix1a · 1 year ago
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Quick piece of @luluyamofficial 's character Lucelia + a 30 second speedpaint!
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pcktknife · 1 year ago
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ok tell me some basic gen 5 facts
victini was designed with the intention of appealing to female players
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northernstcr · 4 months ago
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light fires at night (to fill the void) by inthesea is required reading for andreillers
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phagodyke · 3 days ago
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sick day today :-(
#usually pulling a sickie is kinda fun cuz i can like watch movies or play videogames all day but ive been feeling rl off#possibly have a uti lmao i went to a pharmacy and they gave me an antibiotic course and told me to see my gp if it gets worse#but idek if it is one i havent been having pain/burning on peeing. they said its not standard to do urine tests unless its suspected to be#complicated.. i just have like. pressure and difficulty fully emptying my bladder. they took my temp and i dont have a fever either#just really badly fatigued and struggling to think straight. maybe it is just overexertion from yesterday or like heat exhaustion#trying to stay rly hydrated and ill see how i feel after eating.. if i start taking antibiotics i have to finish the course entirely#but if i get sick from them ill have to miss my concert tomorrow :'(((#man. idk if its just anxiety from the haze of being ill and pained but i feel like the friend im going with doesnt wanna go w me anyway#i feel like hes either having a bad time of his own and not talking abt it. or ive pissed him off somehow. smths just been off lately#im not in a state of mind to play guessing games ill just work myself into a tizzy but if i have done smth i wish i knew so i could fix it#and if its his own shit going on i wish i knew as his friend like even if i cant solve it i want him to feel like he can talk to me abt it#ik hes a private guy and me too but sometimes u gotta share some of ur worldly burdens w ppl in ur life or what's the point#we dont rly get much time to properly talk cuz we're usually at work or if we call my flatmate can hear everything i say cuz thin walls#or lets be real when we call im often in a lot of pain and a bit high to cope with it so not especially conversational lmfao.#maybe thats why hes annoyed. idfk. well itd be nice to get to talk to him tmr but seems like he doesnt even wanna take the same train#and wont be much talking at the gig...maybe im being childish and stupid for wanting to spend more time with him when we already do hang#out a fair amt. i think hes less social than i am maybe. but i miss him snd i miss when our schedules were more aligned so we got to hang#more and i miss feeling like i was getting to know him and understand him better but now the walls are back up and im hitting a ceiling#im not gonna have a tantrum over it like if he wants space ill respect that. ik he was annoyed at another friend before for having kinda#unreasonal social demands of him.. i dont wanna be that person i just like him a lot and like being around him is that a crime#okay so i am being anxious but its mainly just the pain. ugh. whenever i catch feelings for ppl i get so worried im not being#respectful enough of their boundaries bc ppl have accused me of being predatory or even just needy before and it fucking stings#and its not fair to involve him in all that when he didnt even do anything im just projecting i doubt im even in the ballpark of his type#i dont knoooow i dont know anything at all. im gonna stop ruminating and drink more water and open up steam so i can have somr fun#.diaries#at least my roast chicken came out real good..letting it rest b4 i carve it up :-)
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jam-packed · 5 months ago
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crazy how pretty enea is like damn dude save some for the rest of us
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icewindandboringhorror · 6 months ago
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Recent-ish things ~
#photo diary#1 - love this image of Noodle.. such a weird angle that makes his head look entirely round like a puff ball or something#2 - a more recent (still from months ago) collection of my pressed flowers and 4 leaf clovers I found.#3. Being one of the only people in 2024 still going 'hee heee I've just bought a new wii game!' but.. I have. >:3#It's kind of like Wii Sports Resort but is like.. open world? so your character can actually walk around and stuff. REALLY makes me#wish I had the type of set up where I could record video from my wii and stuff like some gaming youtubers have. I think it'd be a really#fun game to play on video and to DOCUMENT it!!! I keep wishing I could screenshot my little guy walking around but I caaant..#I've literally just been taking out my phyiscal camera and photographing the screen which always looks bad.. augh..#4. Something in the froxen food aisle called 'Wellington Bites' a play on beef wellington. suprisingly good actually. but I guess anything#with like beef and mushrooms usually is. But it seems like.. oddly decent for frozen food stuff.#5 - boye looking Round again.. 6 - updated score in the wii fit minigame again. This time less than 4 seconds#for each round? which may be a record for me? 7 & 8 - fat bird in the snow. fatt bird in the SNOW!! Hoping that climate change and H5N1#don't eventually remove all trace of birds and winter weather from my life in the future... -_-#9 - ..ough... a few paltry writings.. Except for the one day of 4000 words. But for the most part I have been making soo litte progress#because of the holidays and drs appointments and such a rush of all these other mind distracting things.. Or if I'm not doing something the#I'm feeling tired from having PREVIOUSLY done something so I waste the whole day being sleepy and headachey... GRR...#the funny thing is that like many many years ago I wrote a note on my wall saying 'FOCUS! write 2hr a day or more or youre going to finish#your game in 2025!!!' - which back in 2018 when I wrote it was like unimaginably far into the future but now... ahem.. hem... I guess that#is quite literally the case LOL. To my credit I did parctically abandon it entirely since late 2019 and JUST now picked up really#trying to focus on it in mid 2024 but still... My '''ridiculous'' projection being actually likely the correct one..#10 - I just thoughtit would be silly to put a bunch of keychain things on the wii remote. imagine playing this way. getting constantly#jabbed in the hand by plastic bits. and the jingling clinking noise it would be always making lol#11 - sky.. huzzah for the sky as always. Clouds my beloved#Gr.. I just really want to wriiite. My new years hopes are to finish my game and to get stuff set up to start selling sculptures again.#AND then maybe do more game videos lol... I miss playing games. I dont think I've posted on that youtube for like 5 months#I've just had so much appointments and Things and Stuff and focusing so much on other projects. But that is the thing that really#feels relaxing and fun for me. so like.. 1. finish game 2. sell sculpture/make sculpture 3. play games 4. find more friends#and social connection and networking or whatever the hell people have to do to be successful 5. do more costume/outfits.#<( saying this all on a day where I did none of those things LOL... I got erm.. maybe 400 words done today.. >:'3c )#6 is MOVE away from the evil west coast (hot.. fires in summer. etc) but like. not happening unless I suddenly become a millionaire so. -_-
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sketchy-tour · 2 years ago
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Genuinely, I wonder if my fear of being seen as annoying by commissioning oc x canon is silly or not.
I always get so actually worried that the person I'm commissioning will think I'm weird or if it's an artist who's in the fandom with me I get all worried they probably already draw a lot of oc x canon of the character i like and maybe they're tired of it
How many times can one artist draw Wally Darling kissing a bunch of different ocs before they hate it? Dksjfjkskdjd
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red-dyed-sarumane · 7 months ago
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thinking about if i want to rb polls to the oc blogs to answer as them in the tags & it hit me wyndi is absolutely the most likely of the 3 to be into fanfic.
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whumpitisthen · 8 months ago
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Actually talking about dreams reminded me that i had a dream with Grim before he even had a name or was even a character of mine!! I can't believe i forgot about that the only reason i even know about it is bc i found some old text messages where i talked about it and it must have been such a defining moment i decided i must share it with someone at 03:40 am
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Reporting from the future, according to past me: "the god of death visited me in my dream" and "he was very fun" and "he sang to me in latin". I also thought it was an omen but wasn't sure if it was a good or bad one. I also said "hes a trickster ofc hed love to visit you and scare you" (to friend i was messaging). Thats literally just Grim. Like all of this fits him except he looks a little different today; like his hair isn't pale blond its just white, and his eyes aren't dark but red, but i guess. They can be dark. At the same time. He visited me before he even existed and that's a little freaky tbh i hope he visits again soon
This does help answer a question thats been bothering me since the parley happened which is what language do him and his majesty speak? And auden for that matter. Bc ofc i write in English but other languages do exist still, and both grim and the lord speak most languages (so the interpreters weren't even rly needed with the humans) but that doesn't mean they just speak english bc i write in english bc that seems unfitting to me.. now ive decided they just speak latin in reality. Or some other form of lost language no one else speaks. That or if they are speaking to someone else, then they speak the language the person they are talking to speaks. Same with the Doctor actually, since it "talks" in people's thoughts, and whatever it says is interpreted in a way unique to each individual, so if its communicating with a Spanish speaking person for example then that person would hear its words in spanish bc thats what they understand and thats the filter their brain interprets things through. But it doesn't rly talk it just kinda beams its own thoughts into people, so it technically speaks all languages, but also doesn't speak any.
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crow-quet · 10 months ago
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TO REITERATE: I will NOT be taking any requests that are incestuous or anything that contains an adult x a child. I am NOT a proshipper nor do I support proshippers. I have tried to be polite but firm because I am a public figure here technically and I don't want to abuse any position I have or be mean.
However, that being said, I have been clear in multiple posts that I do not condone that sort of behavior or even tolerate it anywhere near me. I am no longer going to be polite.
Enough.
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whamss · 2 years ago
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Idk maybe it's just my perspective as an aro lesbian but I find the take that, bc the pale quadrant is defined as a type of 'romance' for trolls, all interpretations of pale ships should therefore be seen as strictly romantic and that pale pairings need to correspond directly with both characters stated sexualities to be remarkably limiting and smallminded, personally. I'm all for expanding the definition of what makes a relationship romantic but sometimes I feel like people take 'romance' a little too literally when they try to make 'romance = attraction' as opposed to approaching pale feelings as like. Their own thing. Moiraillagence being a kind of romance for trolls and also being a technically 'platonic' relationship (from a human pov, these are concepts invented by a Human to fuel fan discussion they aren't complex) with very little bearing on whether or not you feel romantic attraction to somebody are two concepts that can coexist.
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